What do you think of the handling of Monica’s Alcoholism Story?


Back before the writer’s strike occurred fans of General Hospital were eagerly anticipating the storyline of Monica Quatermaine’s battle with alcoholism. As we were told, the story originally was supposed be centered on Monica’s battle with the bottle due to Emily’s death. I for one looked forward to seeing more of the Quatermaine family, imagined scenes of Monica at Alan and Emily’s graves grieving over their deaths, her hiding bottles in her bedroom or in her purse, asking Bobbie to go to happy hour one too many times at the Metro Court or Jake’s and even an intervention between the Quatermaines, Bobbie and Monica. What we did see was Monica drinking out her water bottle, sipping on her flask here and there at the hospital, then finding out she hit Sam on the bad weather night, spoke to Jason who figured out she hit Sam and bam! She’s in rehab! Besides the aforementioned wishful thinking scenes I mentioned, Edward, Tracey, Bobbie or even Nicholas has visited Monica in rehab! Why? The writers plain and simply time after time for whatever reason are of the believe that all we want to see is the mob 24/7! If one were to take all of the scenes of Monica’s alcoholism story put them on a DVD, I am not sure if would fill the disc up in 60 minutes, although it may if it were done like an infomercial and had commentary from the Quatermaine’s and some other hospital staff members.  

What do you think of how this story has been handled?

What do you think of the handling of Monica’s Alcoholism Story?

  • No! It was terrible the scab writers and the current writers did a complete disservice to Leslie Charleson. (94%, 389 Votes)
  • I thought it was very well done. (6%, 25 Votes)

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  1. Profile photo of DS9Sisko
    DS9Sisko

    Like many other storylines and shows across the daytime spectrum, Monica’s alcoholism story seemed to have been a major victim and casualty of the strike.

    Recall that the word was that Bob Guza personally wanted to pen this story for Monica, but the fallout happened smack dab in the middle of the WGA strike and it fell into the hands of scab writers. By the time the strike was over, Monica was all but being signed into rehab, the Text Message Killer story had concluded, and Michael’s shooting of Kate had been scripted and filmed. By that time all that was over, GH had to do a post-strike reshift and set up for May Sweeps.

    I DO think there are still many ways to pick on Monica’s story and I think the criminally underused Ms. Charleson and the story were given shortshrift. But as much as I don’t like it, I do understand why it happened.

    “The truth is just an excuse for lack of imagination.” – Garak, Deep Space Nine

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    pxlbarrel

    I’m not as forgiving as DS9Sisko on this. The fact of the matter is we actually saw more of Monica during the strike than after. Not everything can be blamed on the strike.

    Now, we didn’t see a heck of a lot of her during the strike but certainly more than now. Both the scab writers and the staff writers have dropped the ball on this one and for some of us, it was just another disrespectful act on the Quartermaines and the actors who portray them. The alcoholism storyline could have restored the Q’s to a front burning storyline and allow even the dead Q’s (Alan and Emily) a way to interact with the living in a more believable fashion than they’ve been interacting now. Isn’t more believable to have a alcohol induced sighting of Alan and Emily than one caused by guilt or tumour? And how much more touching and heartbreaking would it have been to have Alan and Monica in a scene together again.

    For some reason the writers think that we stay watching the show because of the mob stories. They’ll find out that we’ve been sticking around with the faint hope that they’ll restore some of the core characters like the Quartermaines, like Bobbie, like the Cassidines to their former glory. They’ll soon discover that if they don’t start producing, we’ll start walking.

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    LeslieCharlesonRocks

    I agree with Pxlbarrel. One can’t blame everything on the writers strike. I saw more of Monica during it, I know that for sure.

    It totally stinks that they dropped the ball on this. My husband and I have alcoholics on both sides of our family, and it is not a flash in the pan disease. It is a gradual one which spirals out of control until they hit rock bottom. Sorry, but we did NOT see that happen with Monica.

    So many opportunities were missed on this, and as a longtime viewer and a fan of the Quartermaines, I consider it a slap in the face. Notr only to us, but to the Quartermaines, whom we VET fans have loved for years. They are the only reason I am hanging in. Um, note my screen name. She is the huge reason I am still with GH.

    GH, stop doing Leslie Charleson wrong. She is an awesome actress, and when she leaves your show, so do I!

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    Beth

    I can’t say I ever expected much out of the story in the first place, because Bob Guza seems only capable of lip service when it comes to the Quartermaines and anything not having to do with the mob in general. And I don’t blame this on the scab writers, because Guza probably never had much of an outline set up for this, if he even had one at all.

    The truth is there doesn’t seem to be any room for stories outside of the mob on GH anymore. I was disappointed by the lack of Monica story, but not surprised. The writing’s on the wall. The show just doesn’t want to cater to longtime fans who want to see more than what they show us. For that, I’m no longer giving them my viewership.

  5. Profile photo of DS9Sisko
    DS9Sisko

    A. I’m not “forgiving” of the issue. I simply pointed out that I understand it.

    B. Monica’s increased airtime not withstanding, the undeniable fact remains that practically the entire alchoholism arc was written and aired during the strike. That’s not “blaming” the strike, it is pointing out the truth.

    Nonetheless I’m not a viewer who believes that during story breakdown meetings and conference calls, the writers of soaps are plotting and scheming about how they can “insult” their loyal audience. Rather, there are lots reasons why things are the way they are in daytime that have absolutely nothing to do with respecting OR disrespecting the fans.

    Take the WGA strike, for example. There is some sort of assumption I’ve seen and heard among many fans that expected scabs/temporary workers to come in and do as good a job or better than the regular staff. And in some isolated cases, some of them actually improved the show they were working on, like Days of Our Lives. (There is an important caveat here: Dena Higley, scab during the strike and current headwriter, had formerly written DOOL for YEARS, so she knew the show and characters). But in most cases, shows floundered (GH, AMC), flopped around (ATWT), or plain spun out of control (OLTL & Y&R, both of which are still trying to clean up their respective strike-related messes).The truth of the matter is that the strike DID matter and affected the soaps, mostly for the worse when it came to storytelling.

    Like ANY other business affected by a major and massive work stoppage, the soaps made out the best they could (and, yes, some of them could have done a lot better). It’s like running a restaurant with the head chef and 95% of the kitchen and wait staff out sick using 1/4-1/3 of temporary workers. Sure, the most of the temps MIGHT be skilled or experienced in the art of cooking and serving, but does one REALLY expect the food and service to be the same as if it were fully staffed with the regular employees? Now imagine all eight out of the eight restaurants in a particular neighborhood facing the exact same issue. That is what soaps faced during the 1988 strike (which was absolutely ATROCIOUS) and what they recently faced with the most recent strike.

    Now that the strike is over, I would LOVE — absolutely love — for GH to pick up Monica’s story line again, even in the aftermath of rehab. Bring Edward into the Michael shooting saga. A lot of stuff that I actually agree with you and other fans about. Like other fans, I could list dozens of things I would change about every soap on the air. But understanding why a situation is the way it is is not the same as “forgiving” it. It is simply recognizing reality and moving from that point forward.

    “The truth is just an excuse for lack of imagination.” – Garak, Deep Space Nine

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    pxlbarrel

    Perhaps I chose my words incorrectly. I’m not as understanding as DS9Sisko… perhaps that would be a better choice. And I’m not.

    I was never under the illusion or impression that the scab writers would be better than the regular staff writers…not that it would have been hard to do so since I belive the regular staff writers are pretty bad. And it may or may not be the interference of the producers or execs that has a bearing on why they’re so bad…

    Yes, most of that storyline (if you can even call it that) occurred during the strike… but the strike’s over and has been for a while. What they’ve shown us of “rehab” has been two scenes with Jason… post strike. If the scab writers truly screwed up Guza’s vision of Monica’s alcoholism, then he could have salvaged it with a in depth look at her rehab. He may have missed writing about what caused her to go into rehab but there’s nothing to prevent him from writing about the rehab.

    May sweeps is coming BUT there’s still no impediment that says you can’t show us Monica in rehab. And this was still an opportunity to have Stuart and Natalia interact with Leslie without it becoming ridiculous. Now Natalia’s final scenes are coming up and we have another lost opportunity.

    My point is… they can’t hide behind the strike forever. It’s been over for a while now and if Guza has the will to fix what went wrong, then he’d fix it. So far, I see as much will as I see the Quartermaines on screen.

    Hey Mr. Guza… PLEASE Prove me wrong.

  7. Profile photo of SusieQ
    SusieQ

    Quartermaines getting the shaft on General Hospital? Shocker! I wasn’t expecting this storyline to go anywhere in the first place and then the strike happened and I knew we were screwed. This show wastes every opportunity it has to showcase the Quartermaines and it stinks! Maybe Guza will show Monica dealing with it out of rehab when she gets out, but I’m not counting on it. It’s not just Guza who gives the Quartermaines the shaft, Brian Frons obviously wants them out too. It’s a shame they don’t want to give Leslie something to sink her teeth into, when Claire Labine gave her the breast cancer storyline she was gold!

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    OnlywatchGHforLC_MonicaQ

    DS9Sisko writes:

    “But understanding why a situation is the way it is is not the same as “forgiving” it. It is simply recognizing reality and moving from that point forward.”

    Your understanding of and mine are two very different things.

    I understand that for YEARS Bob has paid lip service to giving Monica and the Quartermaines story and then never followed through on the actual show. That’s FACT.

    May I ask what writer’s strike you would like to blame that on?

    I also know for FACT that he had an outline for everything he actually wanted written and everything like the character of Claudia who he felt wasn’t written the way he wanted got revised immediately upon his return. He didn’t like that Kate was shot by Michael. That brought about the Michael gets shot by a sniper targeting Sonny. Monica is suddenly the H&R driver.

    His writing has been shown for while now. I know all about soap taping schedules. I also know GH has been running a week instead of 3 weeks to air to bring about the aformentioned revisions.

    Again if Bob wants to write he writes. If he doesn’t he doesn’t.

    As for understanding how a business works I’m an accountant. Bottomline is the name of the game. Profit margins rule the roost.

    This man’s writing along with Frons as President of ABC daytime has cost GH a 75% loss to their viewers or customer base, in your terms.

    In ANY business they along with Jill Faren Phelps would’ve been sacked a LONG time ago but alas they’re still there.

    This was not a business decision. This was what Guza wants Guza gets pure and simple. And what he doesn’t want very obviously is for any of Gloria’s crowning achievements ie the Quartermaine family to have story. Especially Monica.

    I understand that very clearly.

  9. Profile photo of pxlbarrel
    pxlbarrel

    Actually, in real time it has been over for a while, but regular scripts only started airing on all the soaps just about a couple of weeks ago. Remember: soaps tape several weeks to a couple of months ahead of when we actually see them air.

    Ah, but THAT’s the point. It’s been almost 2 weeks now since we’ve seen Monica and those scenes lasted, in whole, probably less than 5 minutes. THOSE scenes were written by non-striking writers. Michael was shot by non-striking writers. It’s been on the air now for a while and yet we’ve seen less of Monica than we have during the strike. We’ve been hearing how certain storylines have taken a left turn because Guza didn’t visualize them that way… well what happned to Monica’s then?

    And yes, to some extent, the past few years have shown us that the writers have no intention on writing for the vets. The Quartermaines are becoming extinct. Maybe it was too much for us to hope that somebody saw the light and would write for Monica. Maybe we shouldn’t have expected that from Guza. Again, if he proves me wrong in the next few months, I will be glad to be wrong.

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    THEBEST

    It was the worst alcohol story ever! Taylor’s descent into Gin-n-Vodkaville was better. I bet if it were Carly, Sonny, or Jason, it would have been Emmy reel material. Bs!

    ***///Living In The World Of Soaps Since 1985\\\***

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    sweetiepie

    The writers strike is just a convenient excuse TPTB are using to justify the rediculous way this story was told. I would agree that the sub writers cannot be blamed for the way it was outlined. We did see Monica onscreen more during the strike than we have in the past 6 months, so it is fair to say that the problem was not compltely with teh sub writers.

    If there is anything of substance on this show that will showcase anything not mob related, it gets pushed to the back burner with little or no reference for days sometimes months, while we are fed a steady diet of all things mob related.

    Unfortunately, tptb don’t think the vets are important enough for a full out storyline. Just look at what is playing outnow, Monica’s only known grandchild is in the hospital in a coma, and she’s in rehab, where it is pretty much guaranteed that we won’t see her again for awhile. Unlike Carly’s stint in Shadybrook, Monica has been ushered off to vet hell, where she will languish for the next few months. What a convenient way to cut her airtime.

    This is why, I watch GH hen I can, it is no longer must see for me. I can pretty much take it or leave it.

  12. Profile photo of Danielle
    Danielle

    I am a paralegal and in my world if someone was promised something in writing and it didn’t happen, I’d be filing a Complaint in Court and would be naming everyone involved as Defendants. 

    The point is Leslie was not given what she was promised and leaves one to wonder if Monica really is an alcoholic. Now not seeing her new contract and/or having any knowledge of how it works if a writers’ strike occurs, I would hope that there would be some sort of clause in there that indicates if a writers’ strike occurs, that person would still be promised said story regardless.  Unfortunately it does not appear that has happened.   Regardless and sadly, I am not sure the story could even be picked up because where would you go with it?   

  13. Profile photo of pxlbarrel
    pxlbarrel

    Well, one thing for certain. Monica and the Quartermaines can still stir up the juices on GH as witnessed by how much we fans care about the missing storyline..

    It’s funny… the past ratings sweeps period (not affected by strike) have involved the killing of a Quartermaine. First Alan in Feb 07 and then Emily in Nov 07. Wouldn’t it be nice to have the May Sweeps of 2008 have a story about the living of a Quartermaine as opposed to the dying? Why can’t we see Monica trying to rebuild her life during May Sweeps? Is there an unwritten rule somewhere that May Sweeps has to be only about spectacular mayhem? Why can’t we have both to satisfy the the fans who want to watch either or both of these kind of storylines. The story possibilites are endless yet nobody seems to want to take advantage of a wonderful actress.

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    THEBEST

    Jill Farren Phelps will always have a seat in hell for killing Frankie Frame & Maureen Bauer.

    ***///Living In The World Of Soaps Since 1985\\\***

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    THEBEST

    What I wanna know is who are the idiots that are voting that this story was good when it wasn’t?

    ***///Living In The World Of Soaps Since 1985\\\***

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    muze

    The story sucked, period. Thank you for bringing up the wonderful Ed Bauer, who despite sanctimonious tendencies NEVER turned into Jack Snyder because he was aware of his flaws and mistakes and was written to make it clear that he struggled with them every damn day. What a wonderful actor he was, I swear you could always feel his pain. He was never a goody two shoes. At least when Maureen died after sleeping with Lilian (why is she still on GL), Ed was never the same. That shows consequences, not putting a kid in a coma and then bringing him back in six months like we know they will do so he can be SORASED.

    Even in current time, we have Billy Lewis, whose story is more realistic…Falling off the wagon, back to rehab. So if anyone over at ABC is just DYING to write a Monica story she’d be hitting the bottle again because of Michael and all the other losses in her life she hasn’t come to terms with.

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    OnlywatchGHforLC_MonicaQ

    I’ll believe Guza wanted to pen a story for Leslie’s Monica when I see it. I’ve read the same drivel from this person for the last 10 years and have yet to see him write one for her.

    As for Monica being set for rehab that’s plain bull. The SCABS had written that Liz was the H&R driver but Guza changed it to Monica (confirmed by Kelly Monaco) because Guza couldn’t stand that his holyhitman was wrong about her.

    The rehab stuff was just a way to shove Monica offscreen. If he was truly wanting to pen a story for her you would see her in rehab — and I’m talking about HER not her hubby’s mistake coming by for absolution for being the ruination of her family.

    This story written by a talented HW could’ve been another breast cancer story with Leslie hitting it out of the park with her genius acting and let us see Monica’s loss and grief of losing the love her life and husband for the past 30 years. We could’ve gotten some scenes with Alan appearing to Monica in her darkest hour to save her as he always had in life.

    Instead it was executed by a hack and a stable of hack SCABS. I will say at least you saw SOME of Monica with the SCABS — notice how she disappeared as soon as Bob returned. So much for wanting to pen a story for her. Believe me if Jason was in rehab it would eat up 90% of the show 5 days a week.

    Pros

    Great idea for a story that made sense at this time in Monica’s life with the loss of her husband, her ONLY son, and then her adopted daughter.

    Would utilize the incredible Leslie Charleson’s formidable acting talent.

    Monica got to tell off the holy hitman AND he had to say he responsible for Emily’s death.

    Cons

    Writing if you can call it that.

    Monica was literally onscreen one episode for 27 seconds in which time she was seen drinking from a water bottle.

    The damage done to Monica as a drunk H&R driver for the sole purpose of saving the worthless character of Lizzie Borden and making the holy hitman right without even giving Monica an actual storyline of her own. Compounded by the totally OUT OF CHARACTER comforting of the one responsible for what drove her to drink in the first place.

    The latter was unforgiveable by me.

    It’s not like Leslie was repsonsible for saving GH from cancellation in the first place or like Jason Hospital isn’t driving it TO cancellation now. RME

  18. Profile photo of DS9Sisko
    DS9Sisko

    “Yes, most of that storyline (if you can even call it that) occurred during the strike… but the strike’s over and has been for a while.”

    Actually, in real time it has been over for a while, but regular scripts only started airing on all the soaps just about a couple of weeks ago. Remember: soaps tape several weeks to a couple of months ahead of when we actually see them air.

    “May sweeps is coming BUT there’s still no impediment that says you can’t show us Monica in rehab.”

    I have as much as said that they could and should pick up Monica’s storyline.

    “The truth is just an excuse for lack of imagination.” – Garak, Deep Space Nine

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    Jamey Giddens

    My thing is you can tell an alcoholism story one of two ways. You can try to educate and empower those who struggle with the disease, the way Guiding Light did for YEARS with the magnificent Ed Baeur, or you can make them a slap crazy, rip roaring over the top drunk like Taylor was on Bold and the Beautiful and Skye was on…well, every ABC soap there was! I HATED it when Skye went on the wagon, because she became boring, a nursemaid for her none-relatives at Casa Monica. I liked her a sloppy, wild-eyed drunk. Monica didn’t get either option. She was seen chugging a few times then it’s off to Shady Pines Ma!

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    DS9Sisko

    OnlyWatchGH writes:

    DS9Sisko writes:

    “”But understanding why a situation is the way it is is not the same as “forgiving” it. It is simply recognizing reality and moving from that point forward.”

    Your understanding of and mine are two very different things.”

    Apparently so. In my view, understanding a situation doesn’t involve conflating unrelated issues to make a specious point.

    “I understand that for YEARS Bob has paid lip service to giving Monica and the Quartermaines story and then never followed through on the actual show. That’s FACT.”

    Which is only TANGENTIAL to the original question/issue posed in this post which was “What do you think of Monica’s Alcoholism story line?” The question posed was specific to the handling of said story, not the larger question of Guza’s commitment to the Quartermaines or other story lines involving the Q’s or any other character on the show, which is larger discussion to be had. That, too, is a fact.

    “May I ask what writer’s strike you would like to blame that on?”

    Would you be so kind as to point out where I have made such a statement about that larger issue? I didn’t, but you seem to be under the impression I did.

    “I also know for FACT that he had an outline for everything he actually wanted written and everything like the character of Claudia who he felt wasn’t written the way he wanted got revised immediately upon his return. He didn’t like that Kate was shot by Michael. That brought about the Michael gets shot by a sniper targeting Sonny. Monica is suddenly the H&R driver.”

    Which might indicate that you should also know for a FACT that once this past strike happened — just like the 1988 strike — that no matter how much of an outline that a head writer may have planned, scabs/temporary writers are likely to CHANGE THINGS from that original plan and, as a result of such changes, regular writer staffs must engage in course correction upon their return. Oh … wait. You just admitted as much by citing the Kate shooting incident, Michael’s on shooting and Monica being the driver. Funny how that was the point I’ve made consistently. But, please, don’t let the real facts — to which yourself cite in contradiction to your own rebuttal — get in the way of your indignation….

    “His writing has been shown for while now. I know all about soap taping schedules. I also know GH has been running a week instead of 3 weeks to air to bring about the aformentioned revisions.”

    Correction: GH’s tape-to-air is about 1-2 weeks; plotting and daily script writing prior to tape is slightly ahead of that schedule by 1-2. And that is mainly because of post-strike course correction at this point. So, if we’re still talking about Guza here (as you wish to focus) and the total production schedule, the lag time we’ve seen between the end of the strike and the airing of his return was in the neighborhood of 3-4 weeks from Kate’s shooting in mid February (2/18) under the temp writers to Monica being the hit & run driver in mid-March (3/24). That was about … oh, 4 weeks. Guess how long it took the first prime time sitcoms to come back from the end of the strike? About 4 weeks. Funny how that worked out, huh?

    “Again if Bob wants to write he writes. If he doesn’t he doesn’t.”

    As does every head writer.

    “As for understanding how a business works I’m an accountant.”

    And I own a video production company. Rock breaks scissors, since you want to go there.

    “Bottomline is the name of the game. Profit margins rule the roost.”

    To quote Citizen Kane, it’s not a trick to make an awful of of money….if all you want to do is make a lot of money.

    “This man’s writing along with Frons as President of ABC daytime has cost GH a 75% loss to their viewers or customer base, in your terms.

    In ANY business they along with Jill Faren Phelps would’ve been sacked a LONG time ago but alas they’re still there.”

    I find it odd that you, as an accountant, are not taking into account secondary revenue streams from multiple platform content repurposing on SoapNet, online ad revenue, ancilliary product revenues, savings through cost reductions in talent and infrastructure, as well as aggregate strength in key demographics, promotional platform opportunities, aggregate viewership over time and platform deployments and revenue enhancers such as Super Soap Weekend. As a media business owner, those are exactly the kinds of revenue streams and factors that I and my accountant look at every day. Not, shall we say, limited to the simplistic metric you cited.

    And, by the way, when you say that folks like Frons, Guza, and Phelps would have been fired for their mismanagement … well, a cursory glance at the Wall Street Journal, any number of media that covers business, or even hacks on daytime that continue to work and get work after their miserable failures more than adequately demolishes that pronouncement.

    “This was not a business decision. This was what Guza wants Guza gets pure and simple.”

    So are now you saying this is ALL his doing? Frons might not have a say in devaluing actors and characters over 40 except a precious few? The advertisers don’t have that unholy obsession with the 18-34 female demo? Phelps might not have a say? I mean, you blamed them for the decline of the show collectively but now it’s ALL Guza? Okaaaaayyyyy….

    ” And what he doesn’t want very obviously is for any of Gloria’s crowning achievements ie the Quartermaine family to have story. Especially Monica.
    I understand that very clearly.”

    I won’t argue the point about the decimation of the Quartermaine family as a whole. But the topic was about Monica’s specific and unfotunately aborted alcoholism story.

    At any rate, indulge one final correction: Gloria Monty was not responsible for the creation or introduction of the Quartermaine family, although she was the executive producer at the time. That distinction goes to the master head writer, Douglas Marland, who created the Quartermaines and also introduced the Luke & Laura story line.

    “The truth is just an excuse for lack of imagination.” – Garak, Deep Space Nine

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    OnlywatchGHforLC_MonicaQ

    “Apparently so. In my view, understanding a situation doesn’t involve conflating unrelated issues to make a specious point.”

    Everything I posted was related to the point at hand. And look I didn’t even pull out $20 words to make the point.

    Understanding what’s going on and deflecting with your “specious point” are also two different things.

    “Which is only TANGENTIAL to the original question/issue posed in this post which was “What do you think of Monica’s Alcoholism story line?” The question posed was specific to the handling of said story, not the larger question of Guza’s commitment to the Quartermaines or other story lines involving the Q’s or any other character on the show, which is larger discussion to be had. That, too, is a fact.”

    And I explained WHY the said story was handled as it was. You claimed it didn’t happen because Guza didn’t get the chance to tell it. I pointed out why I disagree with your theory as this was just the latest in a long line of ‘I’m going to give Monica/Quartermaines’ a story that never seems to surface anywhere but in the rhetoric of sweeps interviews.

    Are you Bob’s agent? Or is this Bob himself?

    “Would you be so kind as to point out where I have made such a statement about that larger issue? I didn’t, but you seem to be under the impression I did.”

    I guess where you said Guza didn’t have the chance to write the story because the writer’s strike occured and by the time he returned blah blah …

    And looking at the other repsonses I’m not the only one that got that “impression.” Perhaps you were thinking something different from what you posted. As I can’t read your mind I can only go by what you type out on in the message.

    “Which might indicate that you should also know for a FACT that once this past strike happened — just like the 1988 strike — that no matter how much of an outline that a head writer may have planned, scabs/temporary writers are likely to CHANGE THINGS from that original plan and, as a result of such changes, regular writer staffs must engage in course correction upon their return. Oh … wait. You just admitted as much by citing the Kate shooting incident, Michael’s on shooting and Monica being the driver. Funny how that was the point I’ve made consistently. But, please, don’t let the real facts — to which yourself cite in contradiction to your own rebuttal — get in the way of your indignation….”

    The only point you go on adnauseum about is your delusional belief that the Guza was going to tell a story of Monica as an alcoholic and the only thing that stopped it was the writer’s strike.

    The man’s come up with same bs for the past 10 years or so I asked what writer’s strike – the reason you gave – stopped him all the other times and then couldn’t give an answer so I was handed a barrage of words you looked up in your Webster’s.

    FACT. Guza’s been back. His stuff has been airing for the last 4 weeks. Everything he wanted changed got aired and guess what NO Monica? No Monica before. No Monica after.

    That coupled with his past 10 yr history of the same is relevant to why I call bs on the “poor Bob never got the chance to tell the story” and that’s why this story was handled the way it was “point” that you made “consistently” but I’m not buying.

    “As does every head writer.”

    Wrong. Malone left OLTL during his last tenure because Frons was dictating story to him. He didn’t write what he wanted but what Frons wanted. One of a few I know of.

    “And I own a video production company. Rock breaks scissors, since you want to go there.”

    Now you lost me. Are we at the playground? Bob is this REALLY you?

    “I find it odd that you, as an accountant, are not taking into account secondary revenue streams from multiple platform content repurposing on SoapNet, online ad revenue, ancilliary product revenues, savings through cost reductions in talent and infrastructure, as well as aggregate strength in key demographics, promotional platform opportunities, aggregate viewership over time and platform deployments and revenue enhancers such as Super Soap Weekend. As a media business owner, those are exactly the kinds of revenue streams and factors that I and my accountant look at every day. Not, shall we say, limited to the simplistic metric you cited.”

    And I find it odd you own a business but apparently adhere to keeping inept employees. Well, that’s your money to waste.

    “And, by the way, when you say that folks like Frons, Guza, and Phelps would have been fired for their mismanagement … well, a cursory glance at the Wall Street Journal, any number of media that covers business, or even hacks on daytime that continue to work and get work after their miserable failures more than adequately demolishes that pronouncement.”

    Now I know this is Bob. Is this how you keep your gig?

    It’s just plain good business sense to cut your losses. But silly me and every business owner I know. We like to keep a profits going up.

    “So are now you saying this is ALL his doing? Frons might not have a say in devaluing actors and characters over 40 except a precious few? The advertisers don’t have that ? Phelps might not have a say? I mean, you blamed them for the decline of the show collectively but now it’s ALL Guza? Okaaaaayyyyy….”

    Stories? Yes. Guza has complete autonomy over stories at GH and has for the past few years or so. That you’re not aware of this doesn’t make it less true.

    Phelps is currently a figure head at GH. She’s done her damage when she first was given the EP job. Frons allows Guza to dicate story at GH unquestioned.

    They’re all at fault for the state of this show one way or the other but the handling of Monica’s alcoholic storyline was handled is on Bob. He started it and she was drinking out of nowhere. No build up. Tried to blame Alan’s botched surgery on her drinking and she wasn’t. And he returned and she was shoved off to rehab.

    And Monica wasn’t shown prior to Frons. Angela Shapiro was in charge and she never was quoted about devaluing the over 40 set. But prior to Guza’s last return Monica was in a great story penned by Richard Culliton and guess what? The same “unholy obsession with the 18-34 female demo” with the advertisers existed. Imagine that.

    “I won’t argue the point about the decimation of the Quartermaine family as a whole. But the topic was about Monica’s specific and unfotunately aborted alcoholism story.”

    Any story or lack thereof for Monica in the last ten years is directly related to her status as a member of the Quartermaines and as such is quite relevant to this topic. Guza hated Gloria and they’re her crowning glory — see below for explanation. I didn’t say she wrote the story but as I get a distinct superiority complex from your posts I need to point that I know who wrote it but she’s repsonsible for them. And that’s what Bob cares about.

    “At any rate, indulge one final correction: Gloria Monty was not responsible for the creation or introduction of the Quartermaine family, although she was the executive producer at the time. That distinction goes to the master head writer, Douglas Marland, who created the Quartermaines and also introduced the Luke & Laura story”

    Try indulging in this final correction for you. I know more about who penned the introduction to the Quartermaines and the Drs love quad story – my beloved Doug Marland — then you will ever know. And I also know NOTHING got on the air unless Gloria approved it.

    Gloria wasn’t Phelps. The woman ran the show carte blanche. And if it got on the air it was hers. Thus the Quartermaines are HER crowning achievement.

    I mention Gloria because Guza’s problem is with Gloria not Doug. He hated that woman and wants to destroy everything she brought to the show.

    One extra tidbit for you. When Gloria came back and the ratings fell in 1991 she was dismissed from her duties. As were other EPs of GH. Guess they didn’t go by WallStreet.

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