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Now that it increasingly looks like the direction of our country, which is in the midst of the biggest financial crisis since the Great Depression, is going to be decided by Joe the Plumber, there are other debate topics that could consume us until Election Day and beyond.

FREE TRADE: Last post, I expressed a desire that Jack get off the Carly/Janet merry-go-round once and for all. The fact that he was literally trying to get with Carly in several episodes, only to turn to Janet within those same episodes, nearly drove me crazy. So imagine my delight when in a series of very well-written scenes Janet discovered at least part of the nature of Jack's oscillation. To put it bluntly, Jack was on the verge of boinking Carly while Janet was downstairs in their house. Janet confronted Jack and said those words I always long to hear a female soap character say: "I don't want you to want me so that you don't want her!" and "I don't want to be your consolation prize. I deserve better than that, don't you think?" Brava!

Better yet, Janet then hightailed it over to Carly's to unequivocably state her own intentions toward Jack to the former Mrs. Snyder. This scenario sets up one of the true threats and deepest rivalries that Carly has ever faced for Jack's love. In this viewer's opinion, Julie Pinson turned in a great performance today as the wounded yet defiant Janet. In fact, these surprisingly mature scenes between Janet and Carly were some of the deepest and most penetrating that have been written in quite some time. Are Carly and Jack truly destined to get back together? Or is Janet the first truly credible, long term alternative to Carly for Jack?

ENVIRONMENTALISM: Most experts agree that recycling is good for our health, our community and the future of the Earth. Be it resolved that with proper care and tending, recycled plots on soaps can be a good thing as well. I speak in regard to Katie's suspicion that Spencer is out to snag Brad and get Katie out of the way in the process. What made me smile was Henry reminding Katie that she had once made Molly sick in one of her many ploys to get Holden when Katie returned as Oakdale's version of "Eve Harrington" to Henry's "Addison DeWitt." Without this acknowledgement, this story would be nothing but a rehash; with it, the plot takes on an ironic edge and is one of those things fans say they love: a nod to history. Is Spencer just a girl with a crush on Brad? Does Katie really have anything to worry about? Is it time to recycle Henry and turn him back into daytime's Addison? And what's in Spencer's suitcase?

TAXES: No one likes paying taxes, but they are a necessary evil. So it goes when one's child acts more grown up than the parent. Parker beautifully took Jack's behavior with Janet and Carly to task without the exchange turning into an angry snark fest. Parker approached Jack as a young man, not a surly teenager and both characters were enriched as a result. Thus, Jack was taxed on his capital gains while earning deductions for his own actions.

Yes, it's a tortured analogy, but I couldn't resist.

GROWTH HORMONES: Dang, Mick Hazen (Parker) grew about 11 feet in 3 weeks! Discuss! Discuss!

CRIME: Who viciously attacked Janet in Old Town? And why? Or was it just a mugger?

IN CONCLUSION: On CBS.com where I viewed today's episode, the complete running time for this show was 38:18. This running seems down considerably from only a few months ago when the average episode registered between 42 - 45 minutes long. Are we closer to ATWT as a 30 minute soap than we realize? (That's just a thought, so don't go around saying that I said ATWT was going to 30 minutes!)

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All in all, ATWT has been turning out some good episodes. I'm a Carjacker for life, but I can't help but feel sorry for Janet. Julie Pinson does a good job as the wounded, spunky one.

I hope that Spencer slowly turns into a complex nut job that wreaks hovac on everything that Katie holds dear. It's about time that the newlyweds gets their own story.

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It is my opinion, and I am unanimous in this, that Jack and Carly destined for one another. They may have others along the way but they are destined for one another.
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Wow, a female soap character was actually shown to have a little self respect? Is the sky falling? You get the girl off Days of our Lives, and she actually shines!

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I've watched the show on CBS.com this past year and it's always been about 38 minutes. So I don't think that means anything...

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Mark, I take your word for it as I had never really noticed the running time online — which is clearly listed on the thumbnail page for the episodes on CBS.com.

Like smellykelly (um, hard to write that without laughing), I remember the days when most hour long tv shows — prime time and daytime — ran about 50 minutes long.

Several years ago the median run time dropped to roughly 45 minutes as the newtworks added more commercial time per episode and, the most recent number listed among most adevrtising and television trade sources was about 42 minutes per episode. That's why the run time on this particular episode of ATWT gave me pause.

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I do think there are too much commercial breaks. There are like 5 or 6 during ATWT. Here on Dutch TV there are 2 commercial breaks (the breaks are a little longer, but still less commercials than on US TV).

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What happened to the days of a woman being completely emotionally destroyed by Jack and Carly's love that she ties him up and forces him to have sex w/ her with the intention of trying to get pregnant and buring down a boathouse only to disfigure her good friend in the process? Where is the REAL Julia, by the way? Or should I say original?

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I agree with thebest on the Carjack topo.

But frankly I am thisclose to stop watching again, it is boring and if Carjack are not back together, since NOTHING else is grabbing my attention on ATWT, I will be out of Dodge!

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Yet another wonderful read JAY. Very entertaining and creatively written I must say.

Julie Pinson is a beautful and talented actress. I'm so glad they hired a skilled actress to be apart of the carjack triangle.

That's what makes it so fun to watch. Three great actors who come prepared and bring it everyday. I want Carly and Jack to be together for ever - but I don't mind Janet with Jack so much. The character of Janet has (for me) helped display and bring out Carly's genuine love and friendship with Jack. Through all their history they still really care about each other. I always feel like Jack and Carly are going to be together and Janet's just helping them realize that too.

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Joe The Plumber...where have I heard that before? Oh yeah, it's the title of a porno I watched once! Carry on!

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Jamey, I rented that porno once but it was AWFUL! Not only was he not licensed, but no one's pipes got cleaned. And so it goes...

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I never looked at porn a day in my life until my marriage to Lily Winters. Oh wait, I'm black, I was never married to Lily Winters!

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It did seem like as soon as the marriage was over he got cured real quick!Laughing out loud

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I've only been watching ATWT for a couple of years, and Jack and Carly have not been together as a legitimate couple during that time (I don't count their near-reunion during the brain tumor scam). But I'm DYING for them to reunite. They just have amazing chemistry and I think Carly finally deserves some happiness.

I have grown to like Janet a lot more than I thought I would, in large part to Pinson's vulnerable performance, but to me that makes this triangle all the better. I don't like triangles where its obvious from the beginning that one point of the triangle is going to be the big loser because it's someone the audience obviously has no sympathy for. Here, I could legitimately see Jack choosing Janet, even though I think it would be a mistake. This is a triangle with some real tension and where the audience can feel something for every character. But I ultimately want Jack and Carly to be together, as long as Carly keeps her backbone and does not beg Jack back or kowtow to his constant judgments. And it will give great heartbreak material to Pinson's Janet.

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OMG, Jamey that last one was funny! Cool

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ROFLMAO @ Jamey!

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I love Julie Pinson, I wonder if they will put her with nununuCraig. were they good together on PC? JBJ what did u think of Chris's farewell scenes the other day, i thought they were good and i felt bad for bob and kim, i was actually crying with them, just when i started liking chris, they fire him, damn u atwt. Holden and Katie were together what was that like, Holden got around! I think Parker looks older cuz he got a haircut, i cant believe he is only 15, which made those Liberty sex scenes gross when she is 22. Anyone else think Dusty needs a haircut and shave ASAP, he looks like wolfman to me!

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I HATED Julie and Jon Lindstrom on Port Lucy the Vampire Slayer. She was on FIRE with Thorsten Kaye though! Lord have mercy!

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When Dusty's finished playing Billy Bob Thornton and ruining peoples marriages he and Janet should get together. They would be the ticket!

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" JBJ what did u think of Chris's farewell scenes the other day"
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I thought those scenes were incredibly good. I didn't comment on them because I've more or less said many times that the loss of Dylan Bruce is another miscalculation by Goutman/Passanante/Bloom. As much as I loved Bailey Chase in the role (at a time when it seemed the majority of online posters did not), in my considered opinion Bruce was the real deal as Chris Hughes from his first scenes with Bob and Kim. Unfortunately as with so many of ATWT'S new characters or recasts, Chris's story was unfocused and so was the character for many fans. Ironically Chris (and Bruce) came came into his own just as his story was folding, another of ATWT's unfortunate weaknesses.

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I agree poor Dylan Bruce he moved all the way from LA to NYC and then gets fired , i hope he gets something on the west coast now. What show should he be on, maybe Days as Eric Brady. What is happening to Dani, she hasnt been on lately, put her with Aaron or put Aaron with Bonnie. Poor Aaron. Why hire all these recasts just to fire them a year later, i dont get Goutman Passante and Bloom!