HomeTVGeneral HospitalGeneral Hospital Spoilers Regan Cellura November 3, 2008 General Hospital, General Hospital Spoilers 58 Comments Here’s the Scoop! 11.03.08 Sweeps without the Stunt? It looks like Guza’s big Sweeps Stunt has been pushed back until January. So is it Sweeps if there is no Sweeps Stunt? Not at General Hospital! GH is known for their Sweeps events and this was supposed to be Guza’s last ditch effort according to RUMORS. Does pushing the stunt back to January buy him more time? What about the "twist" at the end of Sweeps? Is it still coming or is that all part of what’s been delayed until January? So much GOSSIP out there, but is it FanFic or the real deal? Some of it’s really good so my guess is that the good stuff is FanFic. Get your salt licks out, trust me, you need them. Scrubs baby… she arrives today via C-Section. Robin slips into a coma after too much blood loss. It looks like her name will be Emma Grace. Boooooo! They should at least make her middle name Georgie! Karpov dies! It’s in the latest Soap Opera Digest. He’s dead by the end of Sweeps. There are RUMORS out there that Jason shoots him or will it be Sonny who kills Karpov? Is there a witness to Karpov’s murder? RUMORS have Olivia following Sonny and getting more than she bargained for. Wouldn’t it be interesting if Dante hit town and his parents were married… Liason… Remember the drop? Will Elizabeth finally get the answer she wants? No. Maybe. Elizabeth and Jason meet and Elizabeth tells him she wants to be a family. RUMORS say she tells Jason she’s over it all. She’s over being the only one not able to be close to the mobster because of the danger. She’s over Jason’s unwillingness to meet in secret. She’s over it all. So in the end, will Jason want to be with his family or will Elizabeth walk away? Jason is SUPPOSED to tell Elizabeth it won’t work because of the danger. Memo to TPTB… we get it! Jason’s job is dangerous. Can we move on now? Is there a surprise coming? Will Jason choose his family? According to RUMBLINGS there is more angst coming. They MAY make plans, but something always gets in the way. IF the RUMORS are true, Jason makes plans with Elizabeth and has to cancel. She’ll be mad and very short with him when he calls. These RUMORS go on to say that Jason goes looking for Elizabeth to explain. After a mother-son talk… Lucky heads back to Port Chuck and Sam. He’ll feel bad about not believing in her where Jerry was concerned. RUMORS say Sam fills Lucky in about working with Jason and he’ll be upset that she was in danger. We’ve talked about Jerry grabbing Sam… Jason knows what’s up and when he realizes Sam is MIA he goes looking for her. RUMORS have said that Jerry has fires/bombs set all over town. Is Jason’s office set ablaze? Jerry’s "death"… he’s still RUMORED to be presumed dead. So is it Jerry setting Port Chuck on fire? He does have his "plan" as he lays it all out for Sam but it looks like it’s the Russian’s torching town to avenge Karpov’s death. Is Kelly’s a casualty of the fires? Ruby is rolling over in her grave right now. SPOILERS say that Maxie spies some thugs taking bats to Mike and Kelly’s! Will Maxie take a page out of Spinelli’s P.I. book? Jason helps Sam escape. Jerry has her on a ship and they jump off together just before it explodes. Spinelli tracks her down. Soaking wet, they make their way to Jason’s penthouse where RUMORS say Elizabeth shows up after Maxie makes a point to tell Epiphany that Sam and Jason are back together right in front of Elizabeth. Jason’s not happy that Maxie has run her mouth off to deliberately hurt Elizabeth. Sam helps to explain what’s going on to Elizabeth and leaves the PH. Elizabeth tells Jason she’s ready to tell everyone the truth whether they’re together or not. It looks like Jason finally agrees to try to make it work and they make the plans I’ve mentioned above. Plans cancelled as things are being torched all over town and once again…it’s not safe. Don’t forget, Elizabeth has been in on the whole Sam is investigating Karpov for a while now. Sonny’s favorite word… betrayal. Will this be the end of Skate? RUMORS say Kate and Sonny are still the plan but it looks like Kate will take a back seat to the Mobtacular happenings. It looks like Kate spends most of Sweeps laid up in GH and I would imagine the betrayal part comes in when Dante makes his appearance and Sonny finds out he has another child. Dante… EARLY RUMORS had him meeting Lulu when he hits town. More lazy writing? The last mobster to come to town with a son in tow had his kid linked with Luke Spencer’s daughter. Is it happening again? Laura and Elizabeth? Laura was a huge part of Elizabeth’s life and RUMORS have the two in a scene together before Laura heads out of town. Where’s Laura headed? To Paris, for treatment. Remember, Laura also shares some time with Tracy. Will Tracy say Luke belongs to her? It looks like Nikolas sets things up in Paris for his mom to receive treatment. Luke wants to go with her but Laura tells him its time for them to move on. Will Laura be alone when she gets on the plane to France? Remember, Scotty heads out on the same day. RANDOM and CRAZY RUMORS… I mentioned above that Jason’s office MAY be torched. Johnny gets himself into some trouble. Turkey Day with the Spencers… RUMORS have Elizabeth spending Thanksgiving with Lucky and the boys. Liason roof scene? Could be how Jason sees his office on fire. Ric and Alexis scenes. Patrick and Robin get a house. Nikolas deported? RUMORS say there’s a wedding coming that hasn’t been spilled correctly. Carly is Sonny’s alibi… with fake sex and all. Contract Talk… We SHOULD be hearing about Maurice Benard‘s new deal soon. Lisa LoCicero (Olivia) has been an instant hit, will she get a contract? Sarah Brown‘s current deal is done in January. Will she stay or leave? How about an extension until Pilot Season? 58 Responses crazy4gh November 3, 2008 So disappointing Liason again, I think Guza thinks if he holds out long enough we will all just give up. He’s starting to win with me cause I am soooo close to walking away from GH all together. Log in to Reply sueboo54321 November 3, 2008 Is there any chance that Sweeps was pushed back because Guza is getting canned and they don’t want to invest time and energy into some stupid plot they will have to undo? I know it’s a fantasy. I don’t mind if they set fires all over town if it means they will have to update some sets. Why does Maxie even care about Elizabeth? Haven’t they both moved on? I hope Elizabeth points out that if Jason is seen speaking with every other person in town and makes a point to steer clear of her, he is really just highlighting how important she really is to him. I never really understand why career criminals feel the need to expound on their motives and future plans to their latest victim? Is that where the talk between Jerry and Sam is headed? He plans to kill her, but like Diego did, pauses to explain his bad childhood and why he started down his chosen career path? Or, is he trying to get her engine started by filling her in on his future prospects? I really don’t mind Robin not naming her baby after Georgie. I like to think she is leaving the name available for Maxie to use later. We wouldn’t want her to swipe the name out from under Maxie. Emma is a nice name. *****Never fear spellcheck. It is your friend.****** Log in to Reply hrycko48 November 3, 2008 Thank you Regan. So is Dante not meeting Lulu right away? And, I know its filed under random and crazy, but do you know what kind of trouble Johnny gets in? Log in to Reply sueboo54321 November 3, 2008 Oh my dear lord!!! Thanksgiving is like right around the corner. Un-freakin-believable!!! Where does time go? *****Never fear spellcheck. It is your friend.****** Log in to Reply lcpinnow November 3, 2008 I agree, Thanksgiving is the end of sweeps and if Liz is rumored to be with Lucky, that means no Liason, just a bunch of crap again. So basically we had the same thing again like before Michael’s shooting and maybe that’s the way it will always be, so sad and getting very tired, think it’s time to tune out. Log in to Reply GH LOVER November 3, 2008 I hgate Guzza I think i am going to stop seeing Gh!!!!!!!!!!!! If liason won’t be together !!!!!!!!!! Log in to Reply alli610 November 3, 2008 Hi Regan, thanks for the spoilers. When Dante comes to town and interacts with lulu do they link them romantically or does she stay with Johnny? Log in to Reply Chrystie-Delancey November 3, 2008 “So disappointing Liason again, I think Guza thinks if he holds out long enough we will all just give up. He’s starting to win with me cause I am soooo close to walking away from GH all together.” I heard on another GH spoiler site that Guza never intends for Jason and Elizabeth to get together – at least permanently. Hopefully that is not true. If it is, hopefully Guza will go. Log in to Reply Regan Cellura November 3, 2008 Not sure what the exact trouble for Johnny is… it SHOULD be mob related though and there is a RUMOR out there that Lulu blames the Z’s for Kelly’s going up in smoke. Dante – Lulu…. the pair meeting up were the OLD RUMORS. Has it changed? Maybe. Dante has other issues to deal with before romance SHOULD enter. I am sure something will be teased. JoLu… not sure what is going on with these two. Lulu learns it was the Russian mobsters that trashed her family’s diner. I don’t mind new sets and burning down the old ones are surely a way to go about getting new ones BUT, I’d mauch rather they spent money on a new opening. It’s RUMORED to have been shot… Kelly’s… Sonny SUPPOSEDLY says he’ll rebuild it. IF I were a Spencer… I’d say thanks, but no thanks. Log in to Reply LuvSKate November 3, 2008 Lots of stuff to take in so early in the week. Thanks for posting. I’m holding out hope SKate survives both the mob madness and the Dante reveal…I adore this pairing and they are why I watch. They are throwing everything at them all at once. I never thought the idea of a MOC between Sonny and Claudia would sound so innocent until I hear even the hint of it being Sonny and Olivia who marry. That is totally uncool. Actually anyone marrying Sonny outside of Kate is totally uncool IMO. I am more than a little frustrated that Kate will be on the backburner for a while stuck in that damm hospital bed. Lame as sh__! Kelly’s burning down – that as bad as taking out the Qs one by one! I still think Liason fans may be surprised…I can’t imagine Guza is this thick headed not to get the point with these two. Well, yeah I can. Guza is the devil. Log in to Reply ahanshew November 3, 2008 Regan, how much truth is there in the rumors about Guza getting canned if sweeps didn’t go well? Sueboo, pushing back sweeps to not have to clean up Guza’s crap writing doesn’t sound so bad to me! Log in to Reply crazy4gh November 3, 2008 If Guza has no plans of ever putting Liason together then why oh why did they put them in each other’s lives back in 1999? Does anyone know if it was Guza or someone else that first had the idea to try these two out together. Obviously it worked, but TPTB (Guza) doesn’t want them together for some stupid, stupid reason. Log in to Reply Regan Cellura November 3, 2008 Guza… There were RUMBLINGS that he had to get the ratings up during Sweeps or he was out. NOW… how truthful is that? I have no idea but where there is smoke there usually is a fire and the GH fans are ready to torch Guza’s office. I wouldn’t be surprised if he got the boot but I wouldn’t be surprised if he stayed put either. Guza is pretty close with alot of his frontburner actors, the same peeps TPTB are desperate to hold on to. I believe Guza was behind the original pairing of Jason and Elizabeth. At that time, the GOSSIP was that Frons liked Courtney and Jason and Guza obliged. Log in to Reply ahanshew November 3, 2008 I liked Courtney about as much as I liked Emily. Ugh… Log in to Reply alli610 November 3, 2008 I really think they need more younger female characters because I am tired of all the new men falling for Lulu. Spinelli, Logan, Johnny and now maybe Dante, I dont think I can take it. Log in to Reply season1217 November 3, 2008 The more I hear about Frons the more he sounds like Dr. Frankenstein. ________________________ //**SIZ FOR LIFE**\\ Log in to Reply Beth November 3, 2008 Burning down Kelly’s???? Why do I have this image of Guza cooking marshmallows over the ashes, laughing hysterically??? “It’s GONE!!!!! IT’s ALL GONE!!!!! The show is MINE now!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!” Log in to Reply samrocks November 3, 2008 “I never really understand why career criminals feel the need to expound on their motives and future plans to their latest victim? Is that where the talk between Jerry and Sam is headed?” —————————————– Sue, isn’t it obvious? Guza is now stealing from CARTOONS! That is classic cartoon villain MO. Log in to Reply daisyclover1938 November 3, 2008 All this Guza/Sweeps stuff is confusing me… So it looks like he’s still doing all the “exciting” sweeps stuff, but one Major event he had planned is going to be happening on January instead? That sounds like he’s not going anywhere. I just don’t see TPTB firing him. And if they’re not going to fire him, then at least bring on a Co-Head Writer that’ll make up for Guza’s weaknesses. Love the Sam stuff!! YAY!! But I hate that they had Lucky act like a jerk, just so they could have some JaSam stuff… Actually I would have liked to have seen Lucky *and* Jason work together to save Sam Or no wait, even better… Sam and Lucky work together to save Jason! In my dreams, right lol! Log in to Reply season1217 November 3, 2008 Thank God, Guza isn’t writing for ATWT! I can just see him burning down Emma’s farm and putting up a strip club! ________________________ //**SIZ FOR LIFE**\\ Log in to Reply Regan Cellura November 3, 2008 Let me try to break down the Guza stuff… I know it gets confusing. EARLY RUMORS/GOSSIP… Guza had until Sweeps to get the ratings up or he was out. GUZA started talking about his Sweeps stunt and how it was something never done before on Daytime TV. THEN it was said that the big stunt never seen before was being delayed until Jan 09 to tell the story properly. There is still Sweeps per say, the BIG STUNT will air in January. What we’ll see this Sweeps (airing now) is the Spencer Family Adventure, Birth of Baby Scrubs and Robin’s coma, Mob Stuff with Karpov’s death, Jerry and the town on fire. Log in to Reply LIASONADDICT November 3, 2008 I REALLY HOPE THEY DIDN’T PUT LIZ N JASON TOGETHER JUST BECAUSE THEY WEREN’T SURE IF KEMO WAS GOING TO SIGN OR NOT THAT WOULD BE A SLAP IN THE FACE TO THE LIASON HISTORY, PUT THEM TOGETHER , HAVE A BABY AND PROFESS THEIR LOVE FOR EACH OTHER BUT THAN KEEP THEM NOW THAT KEMO RESIGNED. (WHAT A BUNCH OF IDIOTS) IM GONNA START WATCHING ELLEN AT 3 ITS MORE ENTERTAINING… Log in to Reply LIASONADDICT November 3, 2008 KEEP THEM APART Log in to Reply daisyclover1938 November 3, 2008 Thanks for the clarification Regan!! Log in to Reply SusieQ November 3, 2008 Burning down Kelly’s? I don’t even know what to say with this show anymore! Frakking Guza! Log in to Reply season1217 November 3, 2008 I think that that was the initial reason, LIASONADDICT. But I also think that it’s the fans like you that are the reason that Liason is even a possibility. It goes back to something that Daisy wrote that Guza is trying to tell the classic story of two people who can’t be together but can’t be part but somehow the story has gotten lost in translation and isn’t coming out right. Which is the problem w/ 75% of the stories on daytime (*cough* Marty and Todd *cough*)! Also, I don’t think it’s a slap in the face. If Jonathan Jackson hadn’t left there wouldn’t even be a Liason fan base. What would have happened to Jason and Robin if Kimberly hadn’t decided to leave. I know there probably wouldn’t be a Scrubs. Who would Sonny be w/ now if Vanessa has stayed? 99% of couplings on soaps are based on one person’s decision to stay or go. It’s not a slap in the face but just the reality of the decisions that are made. ________________________ //**SIZ FOR LIFE**\\ Log in to Reply GH LOVER November 3, 2008 Regan is there any hope left for us the LIASON fans??? Please give me hope!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Log in to Reply Regan Cellura November 3, 2008 I’m not giving up on Liason… Log in to Reply GH LOVER November 3, 2008 Me to , but , I want them Now!!!!!!!!!! November is a really good reason yo put them together!! The Qs need Jake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want Jake to spend the Thanksgiving with the Qs and Jason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Log in to Reply allikat November 3, 2008 Okay, so my head is literally spinning with all of the spoilers dropped at one time. I love Liason and honestly they are a big part of why I watch GH. But give me a freaking break – I am ready to tune out all together. On another site I read that Liz tells Laura the truth about Jake’s paternity and Laura gives her advice. I have seen others draw the parallel between Luke and Laura and Jason and Elizabeth and I am hoping beyond all hope that Laura will advise Elizabeth to follow her heart and go land her man. Laura is uniquely acquainted with the “bad boys” and could be the nudge Liz needs, but there lies the problem. I have sensed for a long time now that Elizabeth wants this a lot more than Jason and I think he is resolute in his suffering and wants to spread it across the fan base. I am not giving up my hope for a sweet Sweeps ending payoff for the Liason contingent, but how much more are we to be made to endure???? Log in to Reply LIASONADDICT November 3, 2008 IM NEVER GIVING UP EITHER ON LIASON IT’S JUST SO FRUSTRATING Log in to Reply Regan Cellura November 3, 2008 There was alot to Scoop on today… so it was a bit of an overload. There is some GOSSIP over what happens during the Laura and Elizabeth scenes. Like I said some of it is really good and COULD be FanFic. Log in to Reply GH LOVER November 3, 2008 I think it will be great if Laura will notice that Jake is not lucky’s son. I hope that she will tell Elizabeth to go be with Jason!!! Log in to Reply daisyclover1938 November 3, 2008 Okay, I’m sorry but as close as Laura was with Liz, she’s Lucky’s *Mother*, she should be more concerned with Lucky & how hard it’s going to be for him to give up Jake, then worrying about whether Liz and Jason are together – UGH!! If Guza uses Laura to pimp Liason I’m going to be pissed. Log in to Reply EricasEvilTwin November 3, 2008 If Laura advises Liz to go be with Jason, which means cutting Lucky out as Jake’s dad, then I for one will be annoyed. She may like Liz but she loves Lucky and after everything that hypocritical witch did to him she should be on her son’s side. Bring on Le Miz! Log in to Reply EricasEvilTwin November 3, 2008 HA we posted at the same time GO TEAM SAM!! And I am looking forward to how GREEN Liz is going to be when she shows up at Jason’s and there is Sam looking like she lives there! Much JaSam happiness over that one! Log in to Reply allikat November 3, 2008 I disagree. Laura has unique insight into this sort of thing due to the fact that we were introduced to Nicholas 18 years after the fact. I think that there are ways that Laura can be an advisor and confidant to Liz and still be a great mother to Lucky. Liz has already told Lucky that he is the boys “daddy” so I don’t think that anyone, especially Elizabeth, is going to try to rob him of that. That isn’t what this is about…..VIVA LIASON!!!! Log in to Reply Regan Cellura November 3, 2008 I have no idea what Laura and Elizabeth discuss… Log in to Reply allikat November 3, 2008 The Jason/Sam scenes are all Karpov related and wrap when the Karpov thing is wrapped. Liz has been in on this ever since she stitched up Sam, so if there is any jealousy on Liz’s part I think it will be more of the fact that everyone BUT her gets to spend time with Jason not that she fears that Jason is after Sam again. She knows Jason’s heart and I don’t think that something as caddy as Maxie will make her question his motives or intentions. His loyalty is unfailable – that’s part of the Liason angst….. Log in to Reply kgbmc November 3, 2008 There seem to be alot of spoilers out there a number of negative ones about how Elizabeth is going to act regarding team Jasam. I don’t want Elizabeth to be the reason that Sam leaves Jason’s PH. I want Jason to tell her to go or it is he who wants her to stay. I will hate it if Sam is the angst of Liason…again. Elizabeth should not be cast in the role of a jealous lover breaking up 2 people who want to be together. Forget it. So begins the character assasination at Guza’s hands of Elizabeth. Guza can’t play both sides of the fence. Give us Liason or Jasam. Don’t keep ripping these women apart to keep Jason the loyal and steadfast one. Log in to Reply season1217 November 3, 2008 “Laura has unique insight into this sort of thing due to the fact that we were introduced to Nicholas 18 years after the fact.” ________________________ And what is Laura’s unique insight? Don’t treat your son like dirt, unless he can donate bone marrow to his little sister or let him think that you died in an explosion or totally neglect him because you don’t want to further piss off your husband who you lied to about said child?! ________________________ //**SIZ FOR LIFE**\\ Log in to Reply EricasEvilTwin November 3, 2008 Laura gave up Nicholas because she couldnt safely take him with her. I would think that she considers the safety of the child paramount. Plus Liz slept with another man and then passed off the illegitimate offspring from that ONS as Laura’s son’s child. Please dont tell me there are 2 sides to the story – this is Lucky’s mother. As far as I am concerned the only side Laura should give a rats you know what about is Lucky’s. ICAM with Daisy. why must every character on this show be pulled into propping Jiz? As for the jealousy, yes its about not being with Jason, but at the same time Sam isnt just anyone. She was the love of Jason’s life, and I cant imagine Lizard being blaise about Sam interacting with Jason even if it is only about Karpov, esp. since this type of interaction draws attention to all the reasons why Jason needs a woman like Sam who is smart, bold, and able to channel her inner warrior. Log in to Reply daisyclover1938 November 3, 2008 EET: LOL! Liz has already told Lucky that he is the boys “daddy” so I don’t think that anyone, especially Elizabeth, is going to try to rob him of that. That isn’t what this is about Allikat: Uhm, actually that’s exactly what this is about. Lucky will not be Jake’s dad when Liz and Jason get together, I think we all know that. The point is that this situation hurt Lucky tremendously and to think that Laura’s going to become a Liason cheerleader despite what it does to Lucky is ridiculous. But that said, hopefully it won’t happen… I do want her to find out that Jake isn’t her grandchild, but the whole “Rah Rah Jason/Liason” by Laura I can do without. Log in to Reply Regan Cellura November 3, 2008 Its not so much about Sam… it’s that he lets all these people around him and not Elizabeth or Jake. The JaSam stuff SHOULD be about Karpov and that’s it. Jason tells Elizabeth he would have saved anyone who was in Sam’s position. But like I said, it SHOULD be more about Jason pushing Elizabeth away and not others. How does Maxie fit in? RUMORS say they get into it and Elizabeth is SUPPOSED to say something along the lines of ‘how about I tell Spinelli exactly who you are…’ Now Spinelli knows exactly who Maxie is so IF Maxie drops the Sam stuff in front of Elizabeth it’s because of their little spat. Maxie’s comments don’t make her question Jason’s love for her. It’s Elizabeth saying why can Maxie, Sam, Carly, Spinelli all be around you if it’s not safe. One of Jason’s best qualities is that he’s fiercy loyal to those he loves. He’s loyal and he’ll protect them at any cost. Why not Eizabeth and the boys? Log in to Reply GH LOVER November 3, 2008 But people this is not good for Lucky to remain Jake’s father, Cos’ sooner or Later he will have to let go of Jake, Lucky needs to get his own life and not be a father to someone’s else child!!! If Elizabet and Laura discuss Jake , Laura will know that Jake is not Lucky’s child, and she as a mother will want her child, Lucky ,to live a real life and not a life based on a lie!!!!!! Log in to Reply kgbmc November 3, 2008 Hi Regan, I just don’t think it seems like Jason really wants to be with Elizabeth. He seems indifferent to her in most scenes as of late. As an Elizabeth fan first, that is what I want to end. Even if Jason needs to protect Elizabeth and the boys from his life, he should seem to want her above all else. We used to see in private moments but we don’t anymore. Log in to Reply daisyclover1938 November 3, 2008 How does Maxie fit in? RUMORS say they get into it and Elizabeth is SUPPOSED to say something along the lines of ‘how about I tell Spinelli exactly who you are…’ Oh that is Classic Liz!! LOL! Log in to Reply allikat November 3, 2008 Allikat: Uhm, actually that’s exactly what this is about. Lucky will not be Jake’s dad when Liz and Jason get together, I think we all know that. The point is that this situation hurt Lucky tremendously and to think that Laura’s going to become a Liason cheerleader despite what it does to Lucky is ridiculous. Really – seeing how all of this is based on conjecture anyway, let’s run with this one. Liz and Laura are friends and I think any conversation between the two would be dictated not by that fact that Laura is Lucky’s mom, but rather that Laura is someone who Elizabeth looks up to and admires. Laura telling Elizabeth to follow her heart, if that actually happens and I doubt even that, is not being unloyal to her son it is her advising Liz on how to proceed going forward in a life without Lucky. Lucky knew, albeit after the fact, that Elizabeth married him while she was in love with Jason and also was told point blank that she loved Jason and wanted to be with him. Obviously Lucky cared tremendously for the children as he was willing to take it in the teeth and beg for the chance to continue “daddying” Cam and Jake. Jason and Elizabeth agreed to that and so the angst goes on and on….I don’t think that anyone has seen far enough down the road to know where the parental responsibilities are going to fall but I find it amusing when I hear how Jason and Elizabeth being together is going to destroy Lucky. So by that rationale, we should throw out the Jason standard speech of “my life is too dangerous” for keeping Liason apart and insert “this is just going to destroy Lucky” into the mix. I hear all the time how infuriating it is to have constant “Liason propping and pimping” but it is perfectly acceptable to Liason bash. None of these spoilers are even confirmed, but I think this is more exciting than the show anyway:) Log in to Reply daisyclover1938 November 3, 2008 Oh gosh where do I start?? “he was willing to take it in the teeth and beg for the chance to continue “daddying” Cam and Jake. Jason and Elizabeth agreed to that and so the angst goes on and on….” –It sounds like you’re saying this was Lucky’s idea & that Liz/Jason reluctantly agreed to it?! LOL! That may have been in Liason fanfic, but that’s not what actually happened. “but I find it amusing when I hear how Jason and Elizabeth being together is going to destroy Lucky” –no you misunderstood, Jason and Liz being a couple will not destroy Lucky, but giving up Jake will. He loves that child as if he were his “real” son – he has been Jake’s father in every way except biologically… “I hear all the time how infuriating it is to have constant “Liason propping and pimping” but it is perfectly acceptable to Liason bash” –Huh? When fans complain about pimping, they’re referring to *Guza* propping and pimping Liason on the show… what’s that got to do with Liason bashing (or Liason love for that matter) on forums/blogs? Those are two different things, and I’m not sure what the connection is. The point about Laura is that she should be more concerned about Lucky than on giving Liz romance advice. I agree, she shouldn’t want everyone living a lie, but to think that she could possibly care about Liz’s love life is ridiculous. As much as she cares for Liz, she wouldn’t give a crap about whether she’s with Jason or not. What would be better and what would make more sense would be for Laura to talk to *Lucky* about all of this, not Liz. “None of these spoilers are even confirmed, but I think this is more exciting than the show anyway:)” –ITA! 100%!!!! LOL Log in to Reply allikat November 3, 2008 The point about Laura is that she should be more concerned about Lucky than on giving Liz romance advice. I agree, she shouldn’t want everyone living a lie, but to think that she could possibly care about Liz’s love life is ridiculous. As much as she cares for Liz, she wouldn’t give a crap about whether she’s with Jason or not. What would be better and what would make more sense would be for Laura to talk to *Lucky* about all of this, not Liz. I think we can both agree on this. I don’t know that she gives two sh*ts about Liz’s love life, but I think that she genuinely does care for Liz and her happiness. This was really fun:) Leaving work and signing off until tomorrow……. Log in to Reply sevenkell November 4, 2008 Love that Liz’s own reasons for keeping Jason away from his son are stopping her from getting laid. She’s the one that planted that seed in his head and repeated it over and over until her walked away from his son and lied to everyone he cares about about it, to make her happy…and now it’s like oooh wait, Jason, be with me! This is a classic case of be careful what you wish for Lizzie…you got it! Ain’t so hot now that you’re all alone and Jason won’t be near you is it? hahahahaha Log in to Reply liason4real November 4, 2008 During Jason’s trial, Lucky told Sam he would walk if Jake was NOT his son. Yes, Liz told Lucky that Jake was their’s, but come on, the guy is a police detective and should have demanded a DNA test, forcing Liz to confess what she did and why (Lucky is weak). Instead of demanding the DNA test or at least getting one on the sly, Lucky continued with his head in the sand. After Emily’s funeral, Lucky is the one who showed up at Liz’s house and said he would continued being Cam and Jake’s Daddy, when he should have walked away after the trial. But, once again, Lucky acted like an idiot and did not get his own DNA test, I have absolutely NO problem when Jason snatches his son away from Luckless. As far as Liz is concerned, she is DEAD wrong with allowing Lucky to play Daddy to any of her kids, Lucky and Nicholas should have been the nice Uncle’s and that is it. Lucky only went to rehab for a Spencer baby, so what happens to Jake and Cam when he has a child of his own?…JMO Log in to Reply season1217 November 4, 2008 Huh?:? A man decides to take responsibility for a child that is not his and he’s an idiot?! Some would call that honorable. ________________________ //**SIZ FOR LIFE**\\ Log in to Reply EricasEvilTwin November 4, 2008 So its Lucky’s fault that Liz yanked him around for years? This is what drives me crazy about the Liz love – its complete blind love no matter what she does. She let Lucky fall in love with the idea of having a second child and he has been Cam’s father in every sense of the word pretty much his whole life. Then when he was ready to walk, Lizard said she lied to protect Jake, that Jason’s enemies could target Jake and that he could die if the secret was exposed. Now are you telling me that when put like that, you would have MORE respect for Lucky if he had said too bad, if Jake dies thats on you, but I am OUT???? What Lucky did was noble and now when Lizard changes her mind, all in order to get her groove on, those two boys will be ripped away from Lucky. No wonder Cam is a firebug. Log in to Reply roe0824 November 4, 2008 Hi Regan, thanks for the spoilers, I am late today. I read all those rumors you said earlier and I hated them then and I hate them all now. I think that the fans have spoken but noone is listening and that’s why the ratings are really bad. I think we were promised romance and “new beginnings” in the fall promo and we were lied to. We have called, written, and there is nothing else we can do because for some reason, noone wants to listen but maybe the ratings falling as they have been, maybe they will listen. We want them to clean house, starting with Guza, he needs to go or someone needs to go who is not doing their job. We want our soap opera back and not some junk that we watch or youtube lately everyday for an hour. We have waited too long for Jason and Elizabeth and I think we are owed that. We are tired of the mob being the main story, we are tired of the recycled stories, we are tired of breaking up our favorite couples or killing off our favorite family. We are tired of complaining and most of all, we are tired of watching and if they don’t start listening, then I am going to stop watching.Ok, had to get that off my chest. Log in to Reply samfan November 4, 2008 If I were Lucky’s mother, and his ex told me that she loved another man and the child she passed off as being my son’s was a lie….I would tell her to go to the other man also. I wouldn’t want MY SON with a woman who led him to believe he was loved by her and that the child was his. So…my advice to Liz as Lucky’s mother would be…”Liz…go to Jason. He’s the man you love…follow your heart…and get the heck out of my son’s life. He needs to love and be loved and start a FAMILY OF HIS OWN..bah bye, Liz – I wish yu all the best”!!! Log in to Reply THEBEST November 4, 2008 The only good thing that I got out of these spoilers is that Laura leave PC AWAKE and doesn’t suffer another setback and sent back to Shadybrook… ***///The Hunt 4 Dixie Martin Is On!\\\*** Log in to Reply lcpinnow November 3, 2008 Regan, are you still hearing we should hang in for the end of sweeps or is the the great stoyline we where suppose to be waiting for. 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