DC #364: Phillip Spaulding Super Sized


On today’s special Guiding Light "Phillip Spaulding Super Sized" Daytime Confidential episode Luke, Mike, Jamey, Melodie and Nicki discuss the return of Grant Aleksander to Springfield.

They share their initial reactions to Phillip’s return and choose the things they liked and disliked about the highly promoted event. They go in depth with their thoughts on Buzz (Justin Deas) locking Coop (John Driscoll) up, Jenna’s (Fiona Hutchison) Ghostly return, Phillip’s rescue of Coop after the crash, Phillip interrupting Beth (Beth Chamberlin) and Alan’s wedding, Phillip and Alan at Phillip’s headstone, the hospitalization of Coop, Phillip and Rick and the Josh/Reva/Jeffery/Shayne/Dinah factor.

After picking the best and worst moments of the anticipated week the gang discusses the production values and what did and didn’t work.

Finally, they look to the future. Melodie shares some of her latest spoilers before Luke poses the all important questions: Is Phillip’s return enough to help Guiding Light avoid cancellation? Has the return of Aleksander as Phillip made the unthinkable six months ago – Guiding Light surviving without Reva if Kim Zimmer ever decided to leave – a realistic possibility?

All this and much more on today’s special Guiding Light episode.

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19 Responses

  1. Avatar of J Bernard Jones
    J Bernard Jones

    Luke,

    I can’t recap your confusion or the events for people who haven’t listened to the podcast. I will give it a stab, though. From watching the show, my interpretation/understanding is that they were all in an anteroom in the church and Bill stepped out into the a hallway in back of the church.

    At least that’s what I see in my dreams.

  2. Avatar of Luke Kerr
    Luke Kerr

    So if the Bill/Lizzie/Cyrus room was in the church was the dining room that Beth and Alan in in the church or was that supposed to be Spaulding mansion?

    Thanks for trying to help clear up the room.

  3. Avatar of GusJaq
    GusJaq

    The Bill/Lizzie/Cyrus stuff was at the church. As for the Beth/Alan scenes, if your referring to the room where Alan made Beth sign the prenup, that is in the Spaulding mansion. They’ve had that set since about September and I really wish they would add more becuase it would be nice to have something to look at besides the spiral staircase.

    I’ve loved Phillip’s return so far. He had great scenes with Alan, Rick and Beth. I also really liked his scenes with Lizzie and I think GA and MR are going to be really great playing father and daughter.

    Marina is a character I usually don’t like, especially with Mallet, but I do think Mandy did a nice job this week.

  4. Avatar of J Bernard Jones
    J Bernard Jones

    Luke, the dining room was the Spaulding mansion.

    In fact, that dining room set is one of the few to survive the transition to the current production model (it’s not the same dining room set, but rather a rebuilt or redressed version of the old one).

  5. Avatar of Jorpa
    Jorpa

    I never noticed the two different cars used in the accident. But what I want to know is what did Coop hit that damaged the car so bad? We saw the car swerve towards the curb then the commercial break. When it came back, the car was next to the curb, destroyed, and nothing around it. This was my biggest problem with the scenario.

    I don’t notice the production as much when the writing is good and can keep me preoccupied. I did have a problem with the sound a few times and had to turn the volume up, and had to turn it down when Ashley showed up.

    I don’t feel that Phillip can save the show himself, but if the writing keeps improving like it has it will be fine. For now anyway.

  6. Avatar of sueboo54321
    sueboo54321

    I watched this show for the first time in quite a bit this morning. Who is Rocky? Frank, I think, said he was going to call Lucy, Rocky, and Harley. I don’t remember a Rocky. Can someone fill me in.

  7. Avatar of Doobiekat
    Doobiekat

    Rocky was Jenna’s son with the late Jeffrey Morgan…Jenna died in a car wreck with Jeffrey Morgan back in 1998. Rocky was sent to live with Jenna’s relatives in England.

  8. Avatar of troymcclure
    troymcclure

    Thanks for the podcast I enjoyed it very much. I agree with most things you said.

    I have been one of the people that keeps saying that the production value has gotten better and it is true. I have know problem with the cameras any longer, the sound is better and they have cut back on the vocal background music however I do agree with Jamey that better doesn’t necessarily mean good. I don’t see the old sets returning but they need to fix or get rid of some of the indoor settings they are using. I like the spaulding dining room,, I like company and even Cassies old farmhouse, the rooms at Beacon look nice again.

    They need to get rid of the stank apartment where Shayne and Remy lives, the hospital is bad but I do believe that the hospital was like that before the changes.

    I love GL and I am really enjoying the storylines and they do have the best cast in daytime but visually it still needs work. Some scenes are just not very visually flattering but I am keeping hope that they can fix that too.

  9. Avatar of eriklovessoaps
    eriklovessoaps

    Jamey, Olivia had a very good reason for faking her baby’s death. Lizzie tried to kill her while she was very pregnant by rigging the Beacon stairs and instead of protecting his pregnant girlfiend by putting Lizzie in a secure place, Phillip had Lizzie go to outpatient treatment with a psychologist. What really caused Olivia to leave was when Lizzie gave her a baby doll with its head cut off. So, Olivia came back to find a already depressed Phillip that happened to be seeing his baby grown up and asking him where he was. He was definately not stable. Olivia was scared to death of Lizzie and was convinced Phillip would let Lizzie around the baby. Considering Lizzie tried to kill the baby, Olivia did what she had to do and tell Phillip the baby was dead. I suspect Olivia would of told him the truth when she took away the Spauldings power by taking over the company. She could of let Phillip see Emma on her terms then. It all went wrong when Lizzie caught on to what Olivia and Sam were doing and took the baby to Phillip.

    And I quit listening to it at 55 minutes. Not one mention of Otalia. I know they were on last week. Olivia freaked out and Natalia told it would be okay.

  10. Avatar of Ilovethesoaps
    Ilovethesoaps

    O.K., I think that Buzz’s son that was sent away was Rocky. It did’nt brother me about the diffrent cars . . . until it was talked about on the show!!! Now, I’am like “man why did they do that???” The show today was awesome guys and girls!!! I agree with just about everthing you folks have said about the show. I do hope that this will give gl TIME to get their act together! I hope that there will be MORE of Phillip and LESS of Reva she is dissappointing! And, so is that riduclous storyline! Yes, I do ff everytime she and whats his name are on they both make me want to lose my lunch! I’am most likely one of the few who do NOT care for the Olivia/Nat storyline. I would rather it would be two strong women(which is really needed!) that have made a choice to respect, and help each other. . . thats it! But, thats just me. I will be watching gl hoping and praying that they will make it. Jamey I ALWAYS enjoy your crazyness! Today, ALL of you have made my day!

  11. Avatar of eriklovessoaps
    eriklovessoaps

    Otalia is two women that rely on each others’ stength to get through a situation. It doesn’t have to be a lesbian thing for me to enjoy them. Other than a silly kiss, they haven’t gone butch and that was not about having feelings for each other. What is happening now is about feelings-It’s about probing one’s sexual idenity. It makes sense given Olivia was raped and Natalia is her first really close girl friend. As for Natalia, she spent a long time without any. That’s got to make having it (albeit a silly kiss) make you think. The town’s judgemental behavior in declaring them lesbians may end up making two sexually inhibited women (in ways) to think and possbily act.

    I guess Otalia was covered now.

  12. Avatar of Johnathon
    Johnathon

    Okay i have a few comments and a question lol.

    I loved this episode, it was awesome and one of the main reasons i like DC, defiantly one of the best episodes of 09.

    Guiding Light has become a show I WANT to watch, I am wanting to tune in everyday, and I can’t say many other shows do that.

    Now on terms of production value do we know how much it cost to make a episode of GL? One episode of EE i believe i read cost around a million dollars to make *kinda gets chocked up thinking about how many millions are being spent per year on one show* so i am wondering how much it cost for GL.

    International soaps use the ‘look’ to their advantage, I have NEVER once been taken out of a storyline or thought "Wow this hospital looks like crap" because the look doesn’t matter, the characters, actors and story keep me tuning in, and i think as GL improves maybe that will as well.

    Yes the shacky cam has gotta go, but it is a LOT better then it was, I couldnt watch this show very much last year because of that mess, now i am enjoying things.

    Anyways keep up the good work.

  13. Avatar of Jamey Giddens
    Jamey Giddens

    wondering how much it cost for GL.

    International soaps use the ‘look’ to their advantage, I have NEVER once been taken out of a storyline or thought "Wow this hospital looks like crap" because the look doesn’t matter, the characters, actors and story keep me tuning in, and i think as GL improves maybe that will as well.

    ***
    Johnathon, I totally get that about international soaps, but American audiences simply won’t adjust to that in terms of the eight soaps on the air right now that they have watched for 20-50 years.

    If a new soap premiered with the earthy, "realistic" look GL is using right now it might work, but as Luke pointed out recently, most people who watch American soaps largely do so for escapism into the lives of the Rich and the Wanton, not realism.
     
    The soaps peaked during the decadent eighties and Guiding Light, while it has always boasted people from all economic backgrounds, relied heavily on the glitz and glamour of the billionaire Spauldings and Chamberlains and the millionaire Lewises. Ever the Bauers were upper middle class. I am adjusting to the show and giving it a chance now, but this new production model proved a dismal failure for this show. You can’t tell stories about wealthy people properly with these restrictions. I almost wish they would forego all corporate storylines. Seeing Lizzie at what has now become Spaulding, which looks like a high school principal’s office, or the Lewises at the dentist’s office/log cabin that now apparently is Lewis Oil and Construction is depressing.

     That’s not me being hateful, that’s me being real. Twenty-two percent of women 18-49 tuned out because of TPTB doing this. If all the soaps go to that European soap look, they will all be cancelled in no time flat, mark my words. I am terrified B&B and ATWT will follow GL’s lead and we all see the signs already. B&B using that craptastic music, that they assume teenagers and twentysomethings will like because it’s "hip" for their outdoor scenes. ATWT doing more and more scenes in fields and with hand held cameras. The average viewer doesn’t have time to wait for a show to get their production model right. Had I not been covering GL for DC, I would never have had the chance to see it finally start to getting it right, because I would have tuned out the first week of the new production stuff.

     We are in the bleakest economic time our country has seen, people want to tune in and escape for an hour, not be reminded of their own sad, colorless, shaky existances. Now that’s just my opinion, but apparently at last 22 percent of the show’s core demo agrees with me. I want GL to survive, but I can’t be silent and act like this was EVER a good idea, because it simply wasn’t. It was a bad, possibly lethal, move on their part and the other soaps should take head. This is not the way to save the American soap opera.  

  14. Avatar of Johnathon
    Johnathon

    If a new soap premiered with the earthy, "realistic" look GL is using right now it might work, but as Luke pointed out recently, most people who watch American soaps largely do so for escapism into the lives of the Rich and the Wanton, not realism.

    See i think GL still looks like crap lol, but I am just used to it, this isn’t ‘realistic’ this is like you said ‘pbs kid created’ feel to it.

    women 18-49 tuned out because of TPTB doing this. If all the soaps go to that European soap look, they will all be cancelled in no time flat, mark my words. I am terrified B&B and ATWT will follow GL’s lead and we all see the signs already. B&B using that craptastic music, that they assume teenagers and twentysomethings will like because it’s "hip" for their outdoor scenes. ATWT doing more and more scenes in fields and with hand held cameras. The average viewer doesn’t have time to wait for a show to get their production model right. Had I not been covering GL for DC, I would never have had the chance to see it finally start to getting it right, because I would have tuned out the first week of the new production stuff.

    Have you had a chance to watch a episode of one of the international soaps? They do not look like GL, i mean yea they look realistic, but realistic in the ‘primetime’ t.v. way, not in the ‘give johnny a $20 flip camera’ way.

    Compare this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p6JNEjbMHY

    to
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4LGsOvU6jU

    We are in the bleakest economic time our country has seen, people want to tune in and escape for an hour, not be reminded of their own sad, colorless, shaky existances. Now that’s just my opinion, but apparently at last 22 percent of the show’s core demo agrees with me.

    I don’t think the rest of the world is doing that much better, Ian Beale (EastEnders) is over there canceling X-mas and closing down shops, but it dosen’t matter because while they remind us that things are not ‘perfect’ we get to escape and watch these storylines unfold, we see how his wife and brother in-law are fighting to keep their shop open, and we see the characters we love in storylines that keep us tuning in.

    I want GL to survive, but I can’t be silent and act like this was EVER a good idea, because it simply wasn’t. It was a bad, possibly lethal, move on their part and the other soaps should take head. This is not the way to save the American soap opera.

    This was never a good idea because NO ONE KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING! It is one year later and they are still learning how to use the cameras, its one year later and the storylines are just becoming watchable, its one year later and all the viewers got up and left.

    IF the writing was good, they got rid of the shacky cam crap, they fixed the lighting and maybe just took a page out of EastEnders storytelling book then maybe it would have worked. When GL made the switch it lost its identity, it wasn’t sure what it was and i think it is just now realizing it can be Guiding Light again.

    I do see what they were attempting to do, but there is a big difference between what they want to do and what we got.

  15. Avatar of Agim87
    Agim87

    Jamey Giddens, i love ya, but i have to disagree, u said that GL i think should look like Dirty Sexy Money. While it would be nice, its not possible, every episode of DSM cost millions of dollars to produce and the stars salaries were a lot too, that is one reason ABC cancelled it along with the low ratings, because it cost too much to make. GL probably has a very very low budget, because P&G wont spend any money on it. I dont blame Ellen Wheeler in full, because CBS and P&G dont care about this show and dont want to spend money on it. It is pretty sad when the commercials for P&G products are better produced than the show they sponsor. P&G is a multibillion dollar corporation and i blame them and Telenext media for what has happened to GL.

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