HomeTVLostWho Fathered David Vickers? It’s Deeper Than You Think J Bernard Jones February 22, 2009 Lost, One Life to Live, Quantum Leap 26 Comments A few days ago, Daytime Confidential’s Jamey Giddens delicately asked the question Who In High Hell Fathered David Vickers on OLTL? Because I’m a sucker for such things, I attempted to explain in the comments section of his post how the paternity would shake out. However, it seems the matter is still rather confusing to some/many/everybody, including me. My feverish brain could not let the issue go, so I decided to simplify the explanation a bit for those who are still confused about who banged whom, when minds were switched, and what’s the smoke monster. Oops, wrong show! Anyway, here is my attempt to unravel the mystery of David Vickers’ paternity. Mind you, if you stick with me to the very end of this, there is a theory of mine that I think will please people who have wanted to see a particular outcome. Mind you, it’s only a theory but it is based on everything we’ve seen on screen. Are you sitting down? Got your anti-anxiety medication ready, be it prescription or a stiff drink? Take a deep breath. In and out, slowly. Get set! And here we go!… First, a couple of ground rules. For those who have objections to OLTL doing a time travel story, I’m sorry but that wormhole was activated in 1988, when OLTL embarked on an ambitious, prolonged time travel trip to 1888 in it’s famous/infamous Old West story. Whether you liked or hated it then or missed it altogether, time travel is a part of the show’s canon. Second, let’s list the players in order to keep track of who’s who: 2008 Bo and 1968 Asa with Bo’s consciousness (Robert S. Woods) 2008 Rex and 1968 Bo with Rex’s consciounses (John-Paul Lavoisier) 2008 Gigi and 1968 Emma (Farah Fath) Third, this is not an exhaustive recap of the 1968 time travel story, just an attempt to unravel David’s paternity. If I don’t get every detail right, sue me. Finally, time travel does not exist. For that matter, neither does Llanview! Now that is out of the way, here is where the fun begins!: How could Bo be David’s father? Bo slept with Emma in 1968. We saw Rex sleep with Emma. No, that was Bo. When Rex and Bo time traveled, their consciousness jumped into Bo and Asa’s bodies, respectively. Physically, it was Bo who banged Emma. Why did we see Rex and Bo? We saw Rex and Bo the same way we’ve seen Sam (Scott Bakula) in the bodies of other people on Quantum Leap, or mind transfers on Star Trek: we the audience just saw the actors. Even if you don’t follow science fiction, it doesn’t matter. Just remember this: Everyone in 1968 saw Bo and Asa as they were in 1968. Why/How did Bo & Rex recognize each other in the past if they were inhabiting Asa & Bo’s bodies? We can assume it was due to some connection to the actual act of the time travel that linked them. That would also explain why Gigi recognized 2008 Rex in the past — the importance of which will be apparent soon enough. Why wouldn’t Bo remember sleeping with Emma? Because Rex’s consciousness had transferred to Bo’s body: Bo — and Asa’s — true conscious selves were in a sort of hibernation at the time, where there would be no reason for Bo to remember he had slept with Emma. There would also be no reason for Asa to not assume that David was his child. Think of it like Viki’s & Jessica’s alters, where the primary personality (Viki or Jessica) doesn’t know what the other alters are up to. Bo might think that evening’s events were hazy because he had been drinking (or rather, Rex-in-Bo’s body had been drinking). Why does/would — as spoiled — Rex’s DNA temporarily match as David’s father if Bo is the real father? This is nothing more than an in-joke/wink to the audience by the writers, just like when Renee commented about how Blair used to "look different" when she was married to Asa, given that the actress was Asian who played Blair at the time . Don’t take Rex’s temporary DNA match literally. So, did Rex ever sleep with Gigi-as-Emma? No. Gigi and Emma were/are two completely separate characters. In fact, Gigi caught Rex (Bo) in bed with Emma after they had done the deed. Here is where many audience members get confused about whether Rex slept with Emma: Rex had convinced Emma that Bo’s first name was "Balsom" after overhearing conversations between "Asa" and "Bo" where Bo had called Rex by his last name. This is also addressed in the clip linked above. Okaaaaaaayyyyyyyy. So, um, what’s the summary again? Bo slept with Emma. Bo does not remember this because Rex’s consciousness was occupying his body. Asa thought that David was his son because Asa was sleeping with Emma at that time and would assume David is his son. Emma might have lied about David’s paternity knowing it was Bo’s child (afraid of what Asa might do to her) or genuinely thought that Asa was the father. But there is another possibility… OK, Smarty Pants, riddle me this: if 2008 Rex & Bo’s conscious selves "quantum leaped" into 1968 Bo & Asa’s bodies and Rex & Bo’s bodies remained in 2008 and 1968 Bo & Asa’s minds went into a DID-like hibernation, how did Gigi physically time travel to 1968 and why did she not jump into Emma’s body? Gotcha! That’s Mister Smarty Pants! There are two possible reasons why Gigi didn’t quantum leap into Emma’s body: Although it seems counterintutive, it might not be possible to "leap" into one’s look-a-like. After all, Gigi and Emma were phsyically twins and this was Gigi’s cover story when various members of the 1968 Buchanan clan mistook her for Emma. The other is a bit more sneaky, the one I like: it might not be possible to leap into another person’s body…if there is more than one body present. In other words, it not have been possible for Gigi to "leap" into Emma’s body because Emma might have already been pregnant at the time. With Asa’s child. David. 26 Responses dsrbroadway February 22, 2009 Looks like I picked the wrong day to give up drinking. Log in to Reply kerfuffles February 22, 2009 I never thought I would need to know quantum physics and string theory to understand a soap opera plot! I would prefer Asa as David’s son, but as long as he is still a Buch, I’m okay with Bo being his father instead–however that actually happened. And since he would genetically be Bo’s son regardless of whose “spirit” was in the body at the time of the, um, procreation, I’m not going to worry too much about the time-bending specifics of it. Really, Bo as David’s father could be more interesting than Asa since Bo is still alive; there could be some awesome father/son “bonding” scenes and potential storylines out of a Bo/David father/son connection. The thought of David and Matthew as brothers is a hoot, too. In any event, I’m glad to see it all finally playing out. David’s scenes when he and Dorian took over the Buch mansion were awesome. Log in to Reply jeannelw February 22, 2009 lol whip lash good thing i have 38 yrs of soap watching (in which 9 of them was PASSIONS )too follow heehee could it just be as easy as BO getting drunk the night before he was leaving for vietnam and sleeping with EMMA leaving her pregnant with david Log in to Reply liason4real February 22, 2009 I like David, but, Asa’s sons for me will always be Clint and Bo, wasn’t a fan of Ben. So, let Bo be the one to father David and the interactions with Matthew should be fun! If Rex turns out to be David’s then we still have the father/grandson type interactions between Bo and Rex. Anyway, chug, chug, chut. Log in to Reply TV Gord February 22, 2009 Why does/would — as spoiled — Rex’s DNA temporarily match as David’s father if Bo is the real father? This is nothing more than an in-joke/wink to the audience by the writers, just like when Renee commented about how Blair used to “look different” when she was married to Asa, given that the actress was Asian who played Blair at the time . Don’t take Rex’s temporary DNA match literally. ————————————– The latest ABC Hotsheet suggests that Rex and David’s DNA matched is because David is Rex’s father! And Roxie doesn’t deny having a fling with David way back when! The fun continues… Log in to Reply J Bernard Jones February 22, 2009 Personally, I have no problem with Bo ultimately and defintively being David’s father. As others have said, with Phil Carey being gone, it makes more sense dramatically to play a more fun story with Bo as David’s "pa." I only suggest that there is wiggle room in continuity to reset it back to Asa if the show so desires. Carry on, gentle readers! Carry on! LOL Log in to Reply J Bernard Jones February 22, 2009 TV Gord, if the ABC Hotsheet tip is correct (I generally stay away from most spoilers if I can) that explanation would account for the Rex/David DNA mixup. Verrrrrrrrrryyyyyy interestinnnnnnng. Kerfluffles, I went way out of my way to avoid the terms "quantum phsyics" and "string theory." LOL Log in to Reply nOva February 23, 2009 My theory is that Bo was ALWAYS David’s father and Asa “thought” he was. Meaning, when Rex as “Bo” slept with Emma, he was behaving in the same manner Bo originally did. But perhaps Bo had been drunk in the original scenario and didn’t remember. Log in to Reply eriklovessoaps February 23, 2009 I’m digging the hole, so OLTL can be deep. Log in to Reply Revafan001 February 23, 2009 My Gosh just leave Assa his daddy, it cuases my draam! Log in to Reply Set February 23, 2009 It makes sense in some weird ‘don’t think about it too much because if you do your head will go kaboom’ sort of way. Now if only someone would explain the secrets of Melissa Archer’s horrid Hispanic accent, and John Brotherton’s mutton chops from the 1968 storyline. Any takers? Log in to Reply J Bernard Jones February 23, 2009 Melissa Archer’s horrid Hispanic accent: the result of watching Speedy Gonzales cartoons in role preparation. John Brotherton’s mutton chops: they were being grown for Joaquin Phoenix’s crazy beard. Log in to Reply eriklovessoaps February 23, 2009 Somebody has to grow beards for good actors. I applaud you John! Log in to Reply disillusioned GH fan February 23, 2009 I always thought that it would be revealed that Rex is Bo’s son, which was one reason he -was- Bo back in 1968. Maybe in the end, Bo will have fathered both of them? But then, could you imagine Rex’s reaction to finding out David Vickers-Buchanan is his Daddy, making Bo his grandpa. I need that drink now, excuse me! …you have to applaud a show (unlike GH-pffft) that uses history to connect it’s stories and characters together!!! Log in to Reply jpp1975 February 23, 2009 I agree 100% with what nOva said, I thought that Rex-as-Bo didn’t so much alter the future as reveal what actually happened. And that Asa either didn’t know about Bo’s night with Emma, or else said that David was his son so that his grandson wouldn’t be left out in the cold completely. As for Rex’s dad, always thought it would be Mitch Lawrence, for why else would Roxy be so reluctant to spill? Log in to Reply BartAllen February 23, 2009 here is what i figured 1- David is Bo’s son, true, so he does not get everything 2-Asa has another son who will 3-Rex is Asa’s son, Roxy secret to rex’s daddy is Asa Rex gets everything, which he will give back to BO, who now instead of being a father figure will be a big brother figuer this makes him Natalie’s uncle and makes matthes and shane Cousins Log in to Reply verde1984 February 23, 2009 i really like your theory and hope it’s right…they should just leave david as asa’s son, make rex bo’s son and not do anything remotely resembling a paternity/maternity/DNA story for a year or two because this whole thing is making my head hurt. i’ll stick with it cause i’m hoping the payoff will be worth it and make me happy but in the mean time i’m going to try to get my hands on something a little stronger than advil, cause its doing nothing for me right now. Log in to Reply tonyjets02 February 23, 2009 First, I know time travel is not real, and I know OLTL has done time travel before. It doesn’t mean I have to like it! Second, I know Llanview is a fictitious town; but, if it were real, I would pack my bags and get a room at the Angel Square Motel or I’d hire Charlie to build me a lodge on Llantano Mountain. Third, those silly OLTL writers. I thought it was a wonderful nod to the loyal viewers when Renee (or was it Nora) mentioned, while looking at a wedding picture in a photo album, that Blair had changed since marrying Asa. I caught it and I loved it! The writers still need to work harder on other areas of the show. Anyway, J, Bernard, thanks for posting. I, a, “gentle reader” am no longer confused but I still think the storyline stinks. I do like your theory about universal self-correction. And, you are also right when you say that a Bo and David dynamic would work better since Phil Carey’s passing. But, I will continue to hold on to the hope that Emma was already pregnant with David before Rex, I mean Bo, slept with her. Besides, I think a sibling rivalry storyline between Asa’s son’s might make for better drama. Also, I would rather see more scenes of Bo being a father to Matthew. Log in to Reply ABCJunky73 February 23, 2009 Ok here’s one more theory to throw at this head scratching storyline, changing the Buchanan/Lord family with a little flashback. Since we know that David IS a Buchanan, either Bo’s or Asa’s, remember when Jessica needed a kidney transplant and it had to come from a blood family member and the only one who matched WAS David, since Clint never tested, thinking that he was not Jessica’s biological father(Flashback everyone)!! Since David’s kidney did match and it came from a BLOOD FAMILY MEMBER, doesn’t this make Jessica really Clint’s Daughter and not Mitch Lawerence kid, leaving Jessica and Natilie full-blooded faternal twins. I’ve thought this all the time that Jessica is a TRUE BUCHANAN, and not a product of Mitch raping Vicki/Nicki. And that when Mitch showed up alive and well, he knew that Jessica was Clint’s, he just wanted to stick it to the Buchanan’s. If you think of it, this storyline, David being Bo’s son, ties into the past storyline of Jessica needing a kidney transplant since David’s kidney matched Jessica, and it came from a Blood relitive, Jessica is also a TRUE BUCHANAN, making her Clint’s bilogical daughter, Natilie’s full-blooded faternal twin, and Ron Carliviti erasing yet another screwed up storyline caused by a former dimwitted writer. I hope everyone gets what I’m tring to say here. ABCJunky Log in to Reply Darren Lomas February 23, 2009 When am I? Log in to Reply blackjack21 February 23, 2009 God love you for taking the time to figure all that out! It makes perfect sense to me! Log in to Reply season1217 February 23, 2009 Sounds like a case for Daniel Faraday! This is almost as screwy as The Terminator. At least Bo wasn’t born after David. Yeesh! Log in to Reply TV Gord February 23, 2009 Good theory, ABCJunky73, although kidneys are almost commonly donated by non-relatives, so it’s not conclusive proof of anything…you’re right, though, it would be a fun avenue to explore! Log in to Reply RoseVioletDaisy February 23, 2009 Okay, I’m gonna need another Xanax and martini before I contemplate this any further. Log in to Reply sonyab1974 February 22, 2009 Looks like I picked the wrong day to give up drinking. ======================================= ROFLMAOPMP! Log in to Reply Set February 23, 2009 Andele! Andele!! EPPA!!!! At least she didn’t utter the words “El Pussy Gato!” Though… I don’t think the sensors would allow it in this post nipplegate world. I hope John got money for the transplant. And wasn’t responsible for Joaquin’s descent into madness… Log in to Reply Leave a Reply Cancel Reply You must be logged in to post a comment.