Random Thoughts on Five Soaps



GUIDING LIGHT

GL has felt more "real" since Grant Aleksander's return, the fallout from Coop's death, the dynamite Otalia love story and the return to focused storytelling than any time since the switch to the current production model.

Making Doris (Orlagh Cassidy) a lesbian is one of the single smartest character moves made on GL in several years!

We can't call it "the new production model" anymore, can we? Tell me we can't.

ONE LIFE TO LIVE

I love Stacy. As usual, I'm going against the general consensus on this one but that's why it's called a general consensus, not a unanimous one. I love a completely amoral, slightly deranged, unrepentant bitch on daytime and Stacy has those things going for her in spades. She's clear about what she wants and doesn't pussyfoot around in her cuckoo for cocoa puffs efforts to get them. This will sound like sacrilege to many, but Stacy vaguely reminds me of another psycho nutjob from daytime's historic past: Janice Frame on Another World. (To Carlivati's detractors, she may come across more like a rerun of crazy ass Margaret). Mind you, I'm not wild about Crystal Hunt's acting, but Stacy is my kind of Planter's: nutty.

Erika Slezak, Robin Strasser, and Trevor St. John need to call the police and report a robbery, because Carmen LoPorto (Jack Manning) steals every scene he is in! Jack's scenes with Todd in jail and later at the mansion were pure gold!

To the chagrin of David (Tuc Watkins) and Dorian fans everywhere, I like the sparks between Dorian and Ray Montez (A Martinez) almost as much as I liked the heat between Ray and Marty (Susan Haskell).

I don't dislike the idea of a Cristian/Leyla pairing. I think David Fumero (never one of my favorites) and Tika Sumpter have a little chemistry going on there!

John Paul Lavossier should consider keeping the new haircut.

What are your random thoughts about your favorite shows? Am I cuckoo for liking Stacy? Does AMC's brown make you see red too? Is Starbuck an angel? Oops, wrong show. What say you, gentle readers?


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SoapSnob's picture
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Welcome Back, J. Bernard! You (and your thoughtful insight) have been missed.

I generally agree with your assessments of GL and OLTL, but I hate the Stacy character. I see no way that she can be a viable long-term character. And it is so nice to finally see GL get it right 90% of the time.

AMC and ATWT still need some serious work. The sad thing about both shows is there are glimpses of really good drama; but overall, they are a mess. And that is so sad because there is so much potential for both shows.

And, finally, I do not/can not watch GH - I have tried many times, but that show will just not stick. It is just not my taste.

Again, welcome back! And I look forward to your further ruminations over the next several days.

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I agree with a lot of what you said, but I still cannot get behind Stacy. This has actually suprised me because she is the type of character I usually love the most on a soap. The main problem I have with the character is her reasoning. I cannot buy that she would withold bone marrow from her nephew just because of a crush she still has on Rex from many years ago. Plus, it's so ridiculous that Gigi wouldn't just tell Rex and have him string Stacy along until they get the bone marrow. But if they did things the simple way it wouldn't make a very good soapy storyline, would it?

I also am in agreement with you about Spinelli. I have aways liked Spinelli and Spixie, but he is on so much and his actions have been way over the top recently that I fast forward through it, epecially if it's a scene with just him and Winifred! Ugh...the two of them annoy the hell out of me!

GL still continues to shock me! I am still able to watch the entire show without fast forwarding one part! And OLTL is still great too, but it is getting a bit depressing. Glad you're back!

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Yeah, GH should share with AMC on some of the major set redesign. I mean you're right, BROWN BROWN EVERYWHERE!. PV Hospital is a nice mahogany brown with stainless steel, while Ryan's place is a beech brown, Frankie and Randi's place is brown... the Chandler mansion is brown... the Hubbard apartment is brown... it's kind of nauseating.

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Welcome back J-Boogie!

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CHURCH! I so agree about Spinelli.

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totally with you on Spinelli JBJ......and I would go further and say Maxie as well....even though I love her, she is on a little too often as well......and I guess we don't have to mention the usual suspects...cough* cough* CLAUDIA cough*.......

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Janice Frame spiraled into madness over a period of several years. Janice tried her best to win Mac's love, and realizing Rachel would always have his heart snuffed out the last bit of her better nature.

Stacy? She just showed up, evil and crazy. Why does she do things? I have no idea. The writing doesn't make an effort, because we're just supposed to go, "Poor Gigi! Stacy's mean! She's crazy! Poor Gigi!"

As for Erica/Mona, I don't believe Mona would ever cheerlead for as vile a man as Zach Slater, put him above her daughter, or allow him to treat her in the rude way Zach treats Erica. I don't see any of the love for Kendall that Mona had for Erica.

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Stacy's back story was rushed so there has been no build up or anything intersting about her reasons for hating her sister nor her obsession with Rex. It's just a badly written mess I want to go away. I don't mind a devious, hard-hearted villian but Stacy is flat and irritating more than EVIL. Crazy in an uninteresting way.

Stacy reminds me of Liz on Passions who hated Eve for the flimsiest reasons and went about trying to destroy everything in Eve's life. It could have been good but the writing was bad and the motivation incredibly stupid. Just like with Stacy.

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I was wondering where you were J Bernard! Hope everything is well! Nice to have you back Smile

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Spinelli is to GH as Urkel was to Family Matters. A supporting character who was never intended to be a lead becoming a lead. It's another mistake on this rudderless show. That Mark Pinter is a good actor is irrelevant as he plays the slightly altered versions of the same scenes with slightly altered dialogue each day. The FBI with no security, Sonny's house which anyone can enter and move around within, the 4 star hotel with 2 staffers, the international style magazine with 4 staffers, this show is completely ridiculous.

As for OLTL, I had my first child at 16 and though it was 24 years ago, I hate the lack of realism in the handling of Starr and Cole, this story could be about any couple on the show. It is not specific to teens and I hate all the praise heeped on Ron Carlavati. Both teens should have been in counseling a year ago.

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I think the Stacy character would work better if her campaign against Gigi was sparked by something a little less infantile. If Gigi had stolen HER boyfriend in the past, or was responsible for an accident or something that irreparably damaged Stacy's life, then I would enjoy watching her a bit a more. But harboring a 10-year-long grade school crush because some dude picked up your backpack? And then using YOUR OWN NEPHEW'S MORTALITY as leverage?

Sorry, but TRUE soap bitches don't work like that.

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GL and its new production model is an old dog chasing its tail, because that's all it has ever done.

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Could not agree with you MORE! Her rationale is totally screwed and there is NO way to make this character viable. Using the life of her own Nephew to get her sister's man? That isn't Classic Soap Bitch,that's classic Sociopath! I love what Ron C is doing with OTLTL,but he dropped the ball with this character.Using a child's life as a barganning chip in order to satisfy an unrequited school girl crush? That's something some crazy stalker might do,not a member of someones family.

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Stacy is just lonely and want Rex's good stuff. Can you blame her for that?

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I'm loving Mark Pinter too.

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Everything you good people have said about Stacy is absolutely true. I do not disagree with any of the well-reasoned arguments against the character and Hunt's portrayal.

I suppose I like Stacy in the same way that other people like drag racing in school zones in the middle of the day, Grease 2, the spinoff of The Golden Girls or old Milli Vanilli songs: there is nothing remotely redeemable about any of it, but some things are just are. LOL

Thanks for the warm welcome back, everyone!

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Angie and Jesse needs a good s/l, Maura West is the only reason to watch that dread of a show, ATWT, Spin is too overexposed, Stacy is a good bitch, but the writing and the direction of the character is not there, it not the actress fault, Otalia is hot.

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[It occurred to me one day that while One Life to Live and The Young and the Restless are the soap equivalent of a five-star linen service restaurant and ATWT is like an overcrowded, but understaffed Applebee's, GH comes across like a cocktail party where all of the guests are milling around waiting for the servers to bring the food out to the buffet table, also known as "sweeps."]

Great read. This quote is a thing of beauty.

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i'm not so quick to write off the SKANKY character all together, but i am *so curious* about how they could possibly redeem her!

do they even intend to?

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There was a spin-off to Golden Girls? Where the heck was I?

I think Stacy would have been accepted more if we got to know her. I like those bitchy characters too. I think the problem with Stacy is a combination of very wooden acting and a silly back-story.

Rex picked up her backpack? How old was she? What is the age difference between Gigi and Stacy? I guess I could understand the anger towards Gigi more if there was an incidence of sexual or physical abuse in their home after Gigi left home. That is a classic tale, isn't it? Daddy is paying too much attention to Gigi and she runs off so his attention turns to Stacy? That would bring about the kind of crazy anger that would cause this girl to use Shane. The backpack? No.

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Oh, sue! You don't know about The Golden Palace?! I'm so disappointed!

Here's a smidget.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XdxZY_Q-Ck&feature=PlayList&p=34F749A714...

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What a great read.

Mac, Rachael, Mitch and Janice --that was some great drama. Stacy should not be considered in the same sentence.

While I cannot stomach what has happened with the once amazing ATWT, I am glad Maura West has been able to rise above the mess and entertain. I remember a time when Marland wrote the show, I never missed an episode, I miss those days.

Yes, I am chagrined, Dorian and David are love. I, however, was not impressed with Marty and Ray.

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season- No, I must have missed that. I did just watch and was happy to see Don Cheadle. I love him. Thanks.

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Welcome back, JB!

I have given Pratt the benefit of the doubt for 6 months, but it's over now: AMC IS HORRIBLE! It's like a train wreck. Frons has pretty much turned AMC & GH into travesties over the last decade.

I also blame the writers. Guza & Pratt can take the lemons that they have and give the fans sweet lemonade, but they would have to be talented for that. The two of them are far more suited for Primetime. Pratt for a weekly sudser, while Guza can give it a go with a mob-related cult show.

Ron C. deals with Frons' demands and weaves them together perfectly. You have the typical ABC Big Four (Todd, Marty, Blair, John), but the rest of the show doesn't suffer because of them. He pays attention to the favorites of the brass so he can pretty much do what the hell he wants with the rest of the canvas. Good writing makes all the difference...

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ITA with you regarding Mark Pinter. I absolutely love him and hope he stays on at GH. And I like BA but I've been on Spinelli Overload for months now and I feel the same way about Maxie. Someone needs to tell TPTB at GH that there *is* such a thing as too much of a good thing.

I just recently ended my boycott of OLTL and started watching again, so I've only seen a little bit of Stacy. I don't know...I like totally b*tchy characters (especially if they're funny), but I'm not always of fan of the really nutty ones. I guess it just depends on how a story plays out and so far I'm not very impressed. The scenes where Stacy is blackmailing Gigi - oh they were horrible! I might get shot for saying this, but in those scenes I really felt Farah Fath was heading into Charity Rahmer territory.

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GossipGirl, while I agree with you that OLTL is a bit depressing lately, haven't the performances been stellar? Hillary B. Smith alone is showing the anguish of a mother watching her son go through an agonizing fate and a bleak future. I can't wait to see the range of emotions Jessica and Starr will go through when the truth comes out about the baby. Brandon Buddy has emerged from a struggling newby actor into a genuine talent.

I normally despise the teen scene on soaps, but OLTL has managed to create a canvas that is compelling to even a fan in his mid-40s. I understand that some people might think the Starr-Cole baby-drama isn't true-to-life, but what on soaps is? I'm a news reporter, and if I wrote a show off everytime I saw my career misrepresented, I wouldn't own a TV. My sister is a heart-transplant recipient. If I ruled out any show that got that wrong, I wouldn't be watching any ABC soaps. However, within the realm of "suspension of disbelief", OLTL these days is giving me everything I want in a daytime drama.

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Great writing as usual. I'd never thought of Erica as taking over the "Mona" role but now I definitly see it. Thanks for pointing that out.
Also thanks for speaking out about Debbie and Darnell. They're both great actors who deserve better.
I also like A. Martinez's storyline with Robin Strasser and I'm a huge David Vikers fangirl!

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Daisy - I have never seen this Charity person of which so many speak badly of but I do listen to the podcasts so I know that she isn't supposed to be very good. Farah really isn't impressing me much either. I didn't see her on Days very much so I only have OLTL to judge her by. I think she is overplaying it and I believe someone gave her Performer Of The Week on the podcast. I was shocked. There was a scene where Nora just sort of stared on the wall and I thought she was a little wooden. It has been a big letdown for me because I have grown to appreciate OLTL this past few years. Rex has been good, Matthew is awesome, Bo is really bringing it in an understated way, and I have even liked Dorian. Yesterday, Shane was wearing a skull cap that kept creeping up. Most of the show is great so I guess these little gripes will have to be overlooked.

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I totally agree with what you said about Mark Pinter on GH and Ray n Dorian on OLTL. I've always liked Mark as an actor and I think Raynor is his best character since Grant Harrison on AW. I absolutely adore A Martinez and love having him back on my screen. I'm glad I wasn't the only who saw the chemistry between A n Robin. I feel like I'm cheating on David n Dorian when I say that I wouldn't mind if OLTL paired them together. We all know that Dorian has a thing for Columbian men! I can't agree with you about Stacy! I've never been a fan of Crystal Hunt and I'm still not. I know she's a psycho but you don't use a child's fatal illness to mess with your big sister. That's just cruel! I still think she' lying about their parents being dead, too!

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Thank you for recognizing Guiding Light in this piece. This is truly one of most remarkable soaps on television, with one of the most mesmerizing love stories of all time, in the story of Otalia. I wouldn't have believed it, if I hadn't started watching with my own two eyes. These two actresses have chemistry for days and thankfully the quality of writing to back them up. Its too bad there is so much talk these last couple of days about GL's survival, because there is a renaisssance of the medium happening right this very moment. Eventually more new viewers like myself will catch on, the show just needs a little time to get them there.