DC #410: Stereotypical Soap Taboos



On today's Daytime Confidential episodes Luke, Jamey, Jillian, Mike and Tina discuss the latest news for all eight soaps in one, supersized, episode.

Do spoilers really ruin the ability of writers to tell a story or do good spoilers make viewers tune in?

All My Children's "who shot Stuart" murder mystery is in full swing and everyone and their mother are suspects. The story has given us several good performances, but didn't Pine Valley's residents discover Stuart's identity really fast? Chrishell Stause re-signed through September.

James Stenbeck is returning to As the World Turns, but is it worth having a super villain return when using the "realistic" filming format. Rosanna was once a vegetable, now the once mighty Rosanna Cabot of Cabot Motors is weeding vegetables. Why is it all these super rich soap characters are losing their fortunes suddenly? Doesn't anyone use an accountant any more?

The Taylor and Ridge show on The Bold and the Beautiful doesn't work. What does Ridge have going on that makes women act like they do? Bridget, Bridget, Bridget. Could Spencer and Katie be where this story is headed, or will Spencer work his way through all the Logan women?

The Kiriakis versus DiMera feud is heating up on Days of Our Lives, but Owen isn't cutting it. Surprisingly Shelley Hennig is doing a really good job in this storyline, a throw back to her parent's storyline. Jillian makes a shocking revelation that moves her out of the EJami camp. Is the Rafe and Sami romance a classic NBC soap plot twist?

General Hospital has finally made it impossible for Jamey to defend Sonny's claim on Michael. Even Jamey wants Michael to live with the Quartermaines now. Michael waking up has re-energized Edward and Monica. What is up with General Hospital fashion this week? Sex on a couch isn't sexy, but it looks like the summer will have a lot more love in the afternoon. Emma Samms returned as Holly Scorpio.

CBS moved the Save Guiding Light rally fans out of the sight of cameras. The Edmund murder mystery is heating up, even though there aren't very many suspects. Jamey hopes Reva is the killer.

The KAD killer story is wrapping up and it's provided some great scenes for One Life to Live fans. Are Blair, Tea and Marty all still in love with Todd, in their own way? Marty and Blair share a wonderful scene. Natalie and Jared reveal that Starr's baby is alive to their family. Where does Bess keep those black glasses so she can pull them out at will? Is Rex a dumb character?

Chris Engen quit The Young and the Restless. What does this mean for the actor, the character of Adam Newman and for the show? Thom Bierdz's return is confirmed as Phillip Chancellor III. What does this mean for Cane and Lily?

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I posted this in an older thread, but I wanted to repeat it here since this is the most current GL-related thread:

Mel, Jamey, or anyone else at DC who may be reading this post - are any talks regarding GL and another network still ongoing (which I believe was the last word Jamey gave us), or is it too late? Nelson's recent columns are giving me the impression that it really is the end come September.

Thanks, as always.

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"Do spoilers really ruin the ability of writers to tell a story or do good spoilers make viewers tune in?"

I think good spoilers make me want to tune in or keep me tuning in. I appreciate intelligent writing more than you could know. Sometimes the spoilers confirm what I've been thinking all along.

All My Children's "who shot Stuart": The story has given us several good performances, but didn't Pine Valley's residents discover Stuart's identity really fast?

Well how 'bout giving this one viewer and lots of us viewers out here credit for knowing almost w/o a shadow of doubt that the "legendary" character or "beloved" character being offed would turn out to be Stuart. I could almost say it was a no brainer to go there but it just seemed so obvious who it was going to be. The story has given us several good performances namely Tad's most recently at Stuart's funeral, Scott's and I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the always incomparable DC's Adam. I'll also mention Jennifer Bassey's Marian Colby.

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Great SUPER Podcast. I only watch Y&R currently but grew up watching CBS soaps. With a little of AMC and DAYS off and on as well. I like hearing you guys talk about all the shows in one podcast. You all almost have me convinced to try out OLTL. I watched it briefly one summer when the whole Jessica and Natalie baby switch reveal was coming out. I enjoyed the show then but I think I went back to college and just stopped watching it. Oh yeah and I checked out GH last week. I caught GH marathon on SoapNet and ended up watching all the episodes after seeing Laura Wright. Well that kid playing Michael is awesome. I like him. He's a good actor. He makes me want to continue to tune in but I didn't understand the Luke, Holly, Tracey, and Ethan stuff. I don't quite understand why she doesn't want to reveal who the kid's father is. Ok moving on.

Ok now I read spoilers and they don't effect whether or not I watch the show. Well they determine if I am going to tune in or out. I am continuing my boycott of B&B until that Rick/Steffy mess if over and done with and I am not talking a temporary break up I mean PERMANENT!

Oh and I hate that actors don't want to be called Grandma and Grandpa. It's so unrealistic for grandchildren to call their grandparents by their first name. That is what has irked me about Noah and Cassie on Y&R. I never liked that they didn't call Nikki and Victor Grandma and Grandpa. Come on now.

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Smitty they call them Newmans Grandmama and Grandpappy! *LOL* Victor just thinks he ain't none by impregnating the entire town!

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Yeah, you guys was on point. Chris really blew it by walking out of the mid-contract. He will not get a job anywhere else. I do agree that the character is becoming too dark, but you still do the part and do the best that you can. Now he don't want to do it because of morals, give me a break. I don't know what is going on, but he did a bad move and it will cost him in the long term. And Jillian, thank you for speaking out about the Winters fiasco. That s/l is so bad that this is not Y&R s/l. It seem that they don't know what to do with the Winters, but it isn't that hard. Get Victoria Rowell back as Dru and stop with the social issue of the week with the black characters. Integrate the AA character with the rest of the cast and islanded them. And get rid of singing child and Eva the non acting diva. Get rid of the characters or recast Tyra with AA who can act.

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Am I the only one wondering why almost every character on OLTL has kind of glossed over the fact that Jared & Natalie were going to let Starr & Cole believe their baby was dead and allow Jessica to raise Hope? Quest I like Natalie but I am perplexed why no one has said anything about that even though she and Jared were put into a difficult position when they found out the truth about the baby switch. Their intentions to not hurt Jessica may have been for the best reasons but that doesn't excuse the fact that she & Jared were going to continue to let Cole & Starr suffer in wondering why their baby died.

Also, don't get me started on McBain the ex-cop racing in a shooting a crazy man to death. Angry There were so many things wrong with the resolution to the KAD storyline, the biggest IMO being the fact that McBain was made to be the hero (and then promptly went to cheat on Blair with Marty).
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As for Y & R, not only does the Winters storyline really suck (while it's nice to see Black folks on my screen, the writing for them on this show save Lily is not very good) but it is truly glaring in comparison to other storylines on the show. I am also tired of the Phyllis-Nick-Sharon-Jack shenanigans. Otherwise, I am really liking the other stuff. And even though Cane is a fraud, I am still not rooting for Billy to get up in his face for any type of beatdown if only because Billy needs to sit his ass down and contemplate his own messes... like diddling Sharin' behind Jack's back and being trapped in a loveless marriage not to mention his burgeoning alcoholism and deep-seated mommy issues.
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I can't wait for you all to chime in next week on ATWT's new potential coupling of Meg and Damian. Big smile Along with Paul & Rosanna and Casey/Alison, I think the show is banking on those three pairings to keep the show up & running as a contender.
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I like James on GL but I agree that the Ponzi scheme has been questionably written.

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Hey, I don't have time to listen to the whole podcast so I'm only going off of what's written here about "Owen not cutting it." I sure hope that's some kind of play on words. I LOVE the character of Owen and Wes Ramsey is one of the best new actors to come to Days of Our Lives in a LONG, LONG, time. The guy has been on the show about one month and he's already a big topic on messgage boards - in a good way. He's got tons of fans already. Days needs to keep Wes Ramsey.

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bonobochick, I never liked Natalie and as much as I can’t stand Todd, I would be very happy to see him go after Natalie and Jared for holding back to truth of Hope’s true parentage from his daughter Star and Cole.

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Jamey, I’ll put my love for Susan ‘Erica Kane’ Lucci against anyone but in response to your comments regarding Erica not being referred to as a grandmother…CHURCH!!!

Seriously, I have an issue with that. Does Ms. Lucci realize that if she were to OWN her grandmotherness (I know that’s not a real word but just go with me here), as I hope she does in real life, that she would be considered one of the hottest and most fierce grandmothers not just in daytime but in television in general. I mean really. Somebody high up needs to stick up to her and call her out on that.

Luke, I’m looking forward to checking out Primetime Pulse. I’ve been waiting for something like this since the demise of my beloved TVGuide podcast. This is the first I’ve heard of this podcast so if I like the return episode, I’ll be sure to go back and listen to some of the past ones from 2007-8.