DC #497: Daytime Confidential Celebrates 500th Episode With Ron Carlivati



In honor of the Daytime Confidential podcast's 500th episode (okay, this is actually 497 but who's counting?), Luke and Jamey chat with One Live to Live head writer extraordinaire, Ron Carlivati. In his first podcast interview, the George Washington University graduate, who left a career in law to pursue his dreams of writing for his favorite soap opera, shares with Luke and Jamey how his then-employer, former attorney David Baldacci selling his first novel, Absolute Power, inspired Carlivati to move to New York and follow his true passion.

Carlivati talks in depth about what it was like to go from being Dorian (Robin Strasser) and Viki's (Erika Slezak) biggest fan, to creating their storylines day in and day out. He shares what it meant to him to see the first confrontation he ever penned for the legendary duo air on television.

Carlivati also reveals why it was so important for him to restore Llanview's rich history and how he managed to return the soap opera to the diverse landscape creator Agnes Nixon first envisioned over four decades ago.

The talented scribe also explains in great deal why he felt the payoff of having Todd Manning (Trevor St. John) romance his amnesiac, one-time rape victim Marty Saybrooke (Susan Haskell) made the controversial story worth it in the end. He also shared how it made him feel to see Haskell win her second Emmy earlier this year for the storyline's climax, and explains why he feels two smart, flawed women like Tea Delgado (Florencia Lozano) and Blair Cramer (Kassie DePaiva) are drawn to Todd.

Carlivati also talks about his love for great sitcoms growing up and how that influences his storytelling. He then provides Daytime Confidential listeners with a sneak peek of what's next for his soap's top couples like Bo and Nora, Rex and Gigi and of course Kish. Will daytime's most realistically-drawn gay couple get a real love scene? You'll have to listen to this episode to find out. It's an interview you don't wanna miss!

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Preserving its rich history?! Huh? With a 15 year-old kid of Tea and Todd's?
Puleeze! Ron I love you but the writing for Todd sucks UNLESS your plan is to have him be an imposter. That is the story I want to see you write!

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Dani isn't the first SORASed kid and she won't be the last.  I don't have a problem with it (possibly because I've only been watching the show since the summer) and I think the actress who plays Dani is fantastic.  And I love her and Matthew together.  But well, I get why it bothers folks.

It was a great interview.  I'm a big fan of Ron's and I love how he got started.  And I'm looking forward to what's to come on this show.  Let's just get those ratings up!

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CONGRATS on the 500th DC_Podcast!
It was G R E A T! 

Thank you so much for putting TheMan online! It was an honor to hear him speaking so candidly.. loved his surprised reaction to Rex and Gigi being one of the worst couple of the year.. had to laugh!

Mr. J... you need to stop! You are so funny!

RonC  is amazing and has held me in TRAP since his first stories were being written about or viewable on the international air--- it was a very nice surprize.

Continuing to support my Favorites! DC & RonC... Have a grand holiday season and keep up the good work!

Long live the Carlivati-Crusade! Bring it on!!!!

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Loved the interview and love Ron C. Very interesting to hear how he got started writing for soaps. I don't like all of his stories, but overall I love his writing and OLTL. So refreshing to hear a writer say they were a fan of the show growing up and watched soap operas and still feel passionate about them. Sometimes I feel writers and exec producers either aren't really soap fans or lost their passion sometime over the years. Ron clearly hasn't.

Liked the fact is sounds like he actually watches the show. I think it's very important. Sometimes, on other soaps, you'd swear the HW and EP must not be watching or they'd realize how crappy things are.

Also great to hear Ron talk about how he wanted to write Kish like he does any other couple and give them a pay off (sex scene) like a straight couple would and not have it feel like it's just lipserve like you do with some other soaps. You clearly see evidence on the sceen. Heck, Kish is probably among best writen romance stories on the show this year.

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Thank you Luke and Jamey for a wonderful interview.  You can tell that Ron is a fan of the genre and really cares about OLTL.  I love his writing and how enjoyable he makes the show.     

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Anthony D. Langford wrote:
Dani isn't the first SORASed kid and she won't be the last.  I don't have a problem with it (possibly because I've only been watching the show since the summer) 

This sorasing changes Todd's history though. Todd & Tea's relationship was based largely on Todd NOT being sexual. It was why Tea constantly left him. He couldn't give her what she wanted, is what we were constantly told. So now we're supposed to believe 75% of their scenes never existed? Then we have the Island story where Dani was supposed to be conceived. That Island had Todd, Tea & Ross on it ONLY because Todd wanted Ross to kidnap BOTH Starr & Jack. They not only sorased a kid who should only be 6, but they de-sorased Jack. 

Other than ruining Todd's history, (don't even get me started on how Todd would never sleep with Marty, EVER.) the rest of the characters he's put them all back in place after Dena Higley had destroyed each & every one of them, so TY Ron for that. I'm enjoying the show very much. I just want 1 thing fixed. Each day I watch a little piece of Todd, being taken away. He's been striped of all his wonderful layers. The only way to make it right would be to do an impostor story. 

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I'm downloading this now. I have to hear why he feels he has to have Blair sweating Todd like that. I hope he explains why he did that to Ross' character when he had great chemistry with Blair.

The only reason I still continue to watch is because of Kim and rachel.

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Luke & Jamey,

Congrats on your interview!  This was great!  It's good to hear that OLTL is finally responding to your requests for interviews!  Hopefully, the show is going to fight for its life!

I hope that in your offline conversation with him that you were able to impress on him the urgent need for him and the rest of the OLTL cast and crew to fight like hell for OLTL because the network isn't. 

Contrasting your most recent ABC podcast with this one, you stated in the ABC podcast that the move to AMC's studios has been put on hold indefinitely.  That's not good.  If Ron, Frank, and the show's actors are out there selling this show then who will?  DC, WLS, Sara B. of Deep Soap and Nelson Branco of TVGuide.ca have been the biggest online cheerleaders for OLTL but that's not enough.

Sara Bibel wrote this great article of suggestion for OLTL:

http://www.fancast.com/blogs/deep-soap/deep-soap-will-one-life-continue-...

Ron is a creative, thoughtful writer who has infused the show with a wonderful comedic thread.  Just wonderful.

 

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Congrats on getting the interview!!

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Congrats on 500(almost) podcasts!  Great choice for this one.

Very interesting interview!

Luke I'm with you.  Team Tea!

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Is Ron single? Does anyone know?

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Congrats on all the sucess of the podcast and reaching 500 or almost. I havn't listened to it yet and debating wether I should. It must of been a real love fest in this one. I have alot of issues about OLTL and don't agree with you guys that's it the best soap on the air. I mean I'm really upset about some things and I'm not sure I'll be happy with the answers. Anywho, congrats, it's a huge milestone, somehting to be proud of for sure.

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This sorasing changes Todd's history though. Todd & Tea's relationship was based largely on Todd NOT being sexual. It was why Tea constantly left him. He couldn't give her what she wanted, is what we were constantly told. So now we're supposed to believe 75% of their scenes never existed? Then we have the Island story where Dani was supposed to be conceived. That Island had Todd, Tea & Ross on it ONLY because Todd wanted Ross to kidnap BOTH Starr & Jack. They not only sorased a kid who should only be 6, but they de-sorased Jack.
 

vicious, you are so right. That was back when there was Todd/Tea/Andrew triangle. Tea would run to Andrew whenever she just couldn't bare it that Todd would never let her in. Blair, who was in between Patrick/Marty, was always telling Tea she asked Todd for to much and didn't know him like she did. Todd was kinda the same way with Blair except they broke up always because he did terriable things to her. Which was true then. That was a great story, not like this hot mess on the screen now.

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Wow really jamey! No Dani and matthew shouldnt be together. It should be Matthew and Destiny! She whas been by his side all this time. This is why RC pisses me off sometimes. Why cant Destiny the sista get the man! But no it will end with the skinny white girl getting the guy.

Love TnT but despise their daughter!

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FANTASTIC podcast Jamie and Luke, bravo.  I really enjoyed this one very much, glad i checked it out!  You answered about every question i might have had, i just wish i had started watching late last year during Tea's return. Florencia is by far my fave daytime actress right now,and OLTL my fave show. Never has an ABC soap been a fave, and i'm addicted to this show.  I'd do anything to keep it on the air!

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I keep going back and forth over whether I should comment on this interview. While I think Carlivati is talented and I appreciate his obvious love of the genre, I've had major issues w/ some of his stories on OLTL.  But I wanted to hear what he had to say about Todd/Marty and Tea/Todd/Blair. I thought hearing his perspective would maybe help me be more accepting of these stories, at least enough to get me to watch OLTL again. Unfortunately no...

He was surprised by the negative reaction to Tarty?? Hmm...really? And he thought it was just because people didn't want something new and different?? I can only speak for myself, but the reason I had issues with Tarty was 1) the idea of a woman having sex with one of the men that brutalized her is repulsive (amnesia or not). 2) Marty was turned into a blank slate moron (so we wouldn't identify with her and for plot convenience), and he manipulated the audience into sympathizing with Todd. 3) this next "chapter" that he gave us in the Todd/Marty story boiled down to sleazy, gimmicky shock storytelling - that didn't have the heart, soul or relevance that the original story had. Nor was it as dramatically effective.

My dislike for the story had nothing to do with being resistant to something new. And let's face it, rapemance isn't "new" anyway (oh wait, Ron doesn't know what "rapemance" is...right...)

And in discussing Tea/Todd/Blair and two supposedly strong, smart woman fighting over this abuse creep, all he can say is that Tea and Blair are flawed and Todd can be  loveable? I might have bought that 10 years ago (in fact, I did buy that 10 years ago) not now.

I wish Carlivati and One Life to Live the best. But as of right now, I'm not going to start watching again. Once they get rid of a couple of their rapists/violent psychos, I might come back...

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So Daisy Clover, I have to ask, how in the world do you watch General Hospital, day in and day out, which has had, in the last 10 years, had much more misogynistic storytelling that OLTL on it's worst day? How did you keep watching GH when a woman raped Jax? When Sam McCall, one of your fave characters on the show was terrorized by man after man, pseudo erotic scenes (Manny, Rick, Jerry Jax) for Jason to come in and rescue her in an orgasmic Sweeps spectacular. I am not  being combative, seriously, I would just like to hear your thoughts, as to how a year's worth of storytelling you find offensive on OLTL has caused you to tune it out, but unless I am mistaken, you still watch GH, where violence and sexually inappropriate situations toward women abound, and there is really quite little to balance it out, as opposed to OLTL where there is humor, diversity and so many other things going on.
 

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Ron needs to do less preaching and stop talking about other soaps and focus on his own.  In case he hasn't noticed, OLTL is at the bottom of the ratings heap and Kish is not helping.  I do hope they get a hot love scene and hope it can beat Y&R!   If it doesn't then Kish and OLTL will be one big failure.   And maybe Ron can stop pushing this couple at the expense of all the others on this show.  I don't want OLTL cancelled and I feel Ron is letting his personal feelings dictate story.  Last time I checked, ATWT was Nuked.  So he better be careful.    

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 Gnkccc, I don't think Kish is the reason for OLTL's ratings decline. Sure some are turned off it and the Dorian-gay marriage story, but looking at the ratings, days they are featured are not consistently the lowest. Sometimes their days are the highest, sometimes the lowest. Also looking at the episode counts at SON, I don't think they are featured enough to be the main cause. I don't see how Kish is coming at the expense of other couples except for maybe Cris/Layla, who are mainly props for Kish but they didn't much airtime or story before Kish came along either. 

I think the airtime problem is a combination of sucky promotion and a combination of stories people aren't liking, with Kish maybe being one factor. Reading the various boards, I see people not liking Mitch's return, others not liking Todd/Tea/Blair/Ross/Dani story, others not liking the Sky/Gigi/Rex/Stacy story. I don't think if you dropped Kish tomorrow you'd see this spike in the ratings. 

I do agree with you that I hope Kish get one HOT love scene that puts Y&R and ATWT to shame. 


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Jamey, my answer is long, so I'm gonna break it into two parts. If you don't want to read it I'll just break it down: I initially intended on just taking a break from OLTL (as I have with other shows), and I would tune in occasionally. But more and more things really bothered me, and once I stopped watching I realized that while I missed it, I could live without it. Okay that's the short version.

Part I: (*disclaimer: this is only my opinion, I don't expect anyone else to feel the same, nor do I think they should feel the same. If you loved Tarty or any other stories I mention, more power to you Smile this is JMO)

Jamey, it's a fair question. And as you know, I do NOT give GH a free pass. I've gone on here time and again to complain about the rampant misogyny on that show. In fact, I've said that, imo, TPTB (which include women) don't respect women (female viewers, actress & characters)
 
I thought Jax being raped by a woman, and worse, Carly calling it cheating was disgusting. And I thought Emily's rape by Nik's doppleganger Conner was equally disgusting. Just as I felt the Tarty story was cheap, sleazy and gimmicky - so where these stories, and I said so. And actually those stories were 100% dumber than Tarty was.

Women constantly being tortured by men (the TMK story/Diego even before TMK, Panic Room Ric, Logan, etc) pissed me off and I wrote about it - online and to TPTB. I hated Sam being terrorized all the time (especially in the last few years.) Damsels in distress stories are fine, but it's SOOO over the top at GH. There were times when I stopped watching - I missed a bunch of the Manny/Sam stuff because I couldn't take it. Though to be fair, one of the reasons why Sam is one of my favorite characters is because there are times when she saves herself as well as others and I love that. But the plot point where Jerry sells Sam to that guy and she's going to ge raped? HATED IT. And we didn't even get to see her escape!! If you're going to write this garbage, at least let us see the heroine get herself out of the situation.

I'm no longer a dedicated viewer of B&B, just catch it here and there and that's mostly because of Brooke's rape storyline. I continued to watch the show after the fallout, hoping that maybe it wasn't over...or maybe I could just get over it. But you know what? It was never the same for me.

End of Part I...

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Part II:

Okay, so...why is it that even though these other shows piss me off in the same way, I stopped watching OLTL? First, I was just going take a break from OLTL. And I think that might have been because Tarty was the straw that broke the camel's back.  Meaning all this stuff was happening on my shows but I saw Tarty as being especially vile - because I felt it had ruined the original story which was so good, because they were portraying Todd as sympathetic (and dumbing down the victim) and because it was clear that Todd was going to remain the romantic lead on the show. Now I can take Jason and Sonny being the "good" mobsters - is it dumb? yeah. But that is so far removed from reality to me - such fantasy - that I can deal with it. Rape and abuse (for me) is different and at least the other shows didn't try to tell me that Manny was a sexy romantic lead, or Conner, or that guy that raped Brooke. I don't see smart strong women fighting with each other over these men. They were evil and got what was coming to them. I hated the stories, but at least I didn't have to keep looking at their smirking faces.

Add to that, they brought back the other rapists to make Todd look better (because gee, at least he wasn't that bad.)  They brought back Mitch the nutjob rapist (I adore Roscoe Born, but...) and then they made this Ross guy into a violent psycho (was this to pimp Todd again?) And didn't Stacy drug and rape a guy too??

I fully intended to go back to watching OLTL because there was so much that I liked but everytime I would think about tuning back in, I would hear something else that would make me go, "Oh jeez, forget it." And yet again, recently because of ATWT's cancellation I thought "I should start watching OLTL again" but then in this interview Carlivati says he doesn't understand why people would be upset about Tarty and it's just because we didn't want something new, and again I decided to not start watching again. Because if that's why Carlivati thinks I don't like the story or why Tea/Todd/Blair doesn't do it for me anymore, then he doesn't get me, and maybe I'm just not the viewer he wants. Plain and simple. And that's okay, because not every show is for every fan. And you know what? There are times when I think that about GH too.  I have been thisclose to quitting it many times and I might end up doing it, who knows? I've already accepted the fact that it will never be the show I want it to be.

Yes, I know...that as long winded - sorry!!

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Okay, so I swear this is the last of it... Jamey, I think you might have the wrong idea here. My stance is not, "Because of Tarty I will never watch OLTL again for as long as I live!" Not at all...it's more like, I didn't like these past stories (plural, because it wasn't just Tarty), I don't particularly like what I'm hearing now, so I'm not tuning back in. But that could certainly change.  I keep up w/ the show, so if I hear things that I like, I'll certainly tune back in.  Will I still dislike the Tarty story, yeah, but just like all the other shows, I can get past it if there are enough other things that I like.

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Daisy, that was perfect.

Jamey, maybe because it was created by Agnes Nixon, maybe it's because it started out dealing with the very real world, but OLTL should be held to a higher standard than GH.

As much as I hated rapemance, I really hate that there were no consequences for Todd. Tea doesn't even believe he raped Marty. Starr is okay that her father's plan to kidnap her baby lead to almost a year without that baby and the belief that the child was dead. Blair is going to the mat for him though he was going to run off with Marty and her grandchild. On today's show Blair and Tea shared a laugh at Marty's expense. So, yes, I am back for the Evans family and Bo/Nora and Matthew and Viki/Charlie and Roxy and Fish not Kish ( I don't like Kyle) but there are days when I wonder if wading through the muck for the good stuff is worth the trouble.

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Daisy Clover, I appreciate your answers, you make a lot of valid points, I guess (IMO) I just don't see OLTL being that much different from any other soap when it comes to a lot of these issues. Patch came to town and stalked and terrorized both Kayla and Hope on DAYS, then was made into a romantic lead. Jack raped Kayla and used Melissa, only to have a starcrossed romance with Melissa's cousin Jennifer (one of my all time fave pairings). VIctor Newman actually spanked Nikki at one point, and the greatest soap couple of all time, Luke and Laura, are forever stained by rape. I guess I just don't get why OLTL gets such a bum rap for being misogynistic, when IMO it's the least misogynistic of the three ABC soaps by far. I love Liason, and you know that, but on GH, half the women in town have been fighting over blood thirsty mobsters for years, and as you said, that is far removed from your reality, but IMO it's still much more misogynistic than anything we see on OLTL. The whole Claudia Zacharra storyline set women back 150 years, as does much of Sam's antics, and yes, my beloved Lizzie Beth's too. Jason may not have raped anyone, but he has killed repeatedly, and not only is he the biggest heartthrob on ABC Daytime, he's pretty much the biggest heartthrob still in soaps. I don't know, I just feel OLTL's pain. They do these stories, I feel, like the rapemance, to try to compete with GH, which gets so much attention for all their stunts and shenanigans, and then they catch way more hell for it than any other soap. Victor calls every women he meets on DAYS bitches, and it seems that would be more offensive. I don't know, I readily admit my knowledge of the dire straits OLTL is in causes me to be very frustrated, but I would never ask people to watch something that offends them. Maybe you feel about OLTL like I do about AMC, and I respect that.
 

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I agree with Maxsmom and esp. with Daisy.  I still am watching OLTL but it wears at me a lot of the time. 

Let me add one more consideration...

Lets compare Tarty  for a second to say the Jax rape.

Jax was captured for  a few days maybe a week by a short term character. She threatened him, we didnt watch the rape and then she was killed.  Did I hate it, yes, but I only hated it for a week or two and the story seemed like a huge stupid plot point.  I wasnt invested in the kidnapping so I wasnt AS turned off by the aftermath.

With Marty's original rape - we SAW what todd did to her - we lived through the aftermath and the trial with marty for a long time.  It was intimate and disturbing, compelling and of relevance.  We even lived through Todd coming to terms over a period of years with what he did and with witnessed his redemption by "dying" for marty.  Remember, while she was never totally over it, Marty did come back when blair thought  Todd had raped her and testified that she no longer  thought he was capable of something like that.  RC took that rich history and, for me, crapped all over episode after episode for months - he negated todd's growth by having him rape her all over again, turned Marty from a strong survivor into not only  a victim but an accomplice in her own victimization, and offered up Tea and Blair as apologists for him.  Even Starr, who is in love with Marty's son, has accepted it as more or less todd being todd.

Moreover, I think it was bad storytelling in the sense that there was no payoff  - - marty broke down for a bit afterward and she couldnt boink John right away, but now she is tolerant of todd again and for todd they didnt even give him a slow steady redemption story. he tried to kill himself - oh boy.  He went to jail for a couple of weeks - now thats paying a steep price.    When you watch a character you love do something terrible, it makes it much easier to forgive them if you are given a reason to see them in a different light.  If todd does nothing to earn the forgiveness of those he harmed, how can the writers expect him to earn the forgiveness of the viewers.

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I think that RC needs to wake up, I've been a OLTL fan since I was a teenager. DH was a great writer , I loved how she brought the Tess/Jess/Nash story line to light. Nash was my favorite character on the show, and Jessica is my favorite. When DH introduced Tess/Nash in 2005 the ratings for the show were up, and it got even better in 2006 with the Nash/Jessica/Antonio love triangle. I love the show in 2007, but once RC became head writer he ruined Jash, and that was a big mistake. There was a lot of potential for Nash's character that writers could've invested in. I can' t for the life of me understand why they brought in the Brody character. Mark Lawson is a terrible actor, how can OLTL let a terrific actor like Forbes March go for Mark Lawson. Brody is soooooooooooooooo boring, he is relationship with Jessica bores me to tears.

Please RC bring Nash/Forbes March back in 2010, I think that would help save OLTL. I for one stop watching the show when Nash died and only catch clips on you tube, and from what I can tell all of the storyline except for Mitch's return is zzzzzzzzzzzzz boring. Sick of the Rex/Stacy/Gigi crap, Nora/Bo/Clint crap,  Vicki/Charlie crap.. Todd/Tea/Dani, crap...Kish is crap..Dorian/Amelia story line is crap...no wonder the show is on the chopping blocks for 2011.

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I know DC loves OLTL a lot, however, the Clint/Nora/Bo storyline is a retread of the Ross/Blake/Ben storyline ten years ago on GL. It has the same dynamic, the same everything, and really, JVD isn't even stretching as an actor because he's done it all before with actors on GL with whom he has chemistry. OLTL is entertaining, but if it's the best soap on the air as DC claims, then the genre is in a real state of flux.

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I guess I am in the minority, I am loving OLTL and think it has never been better.  I have watched  OLTL since Karen took the stand in the 70's and feel Ron has done an incredible job bringing back the stories and characters I used to love. 

Finally we are getting Bo and Nora, Viki and Dorian back in frontburner stories.  I really am sick and tired of everyone complaining about Todd and the rapemance.  They must be new viewers, and are not used to Todd's endless cycle of self-destruction.  Ditto Dorian.  So what if she pretends to be a lesbian; her win at all costs behavior is classic Dorian.  While both of these charactes have grown throughout the years, they are both selfish and will pull out all the stops to win and come in first place. 

I also watched AMC and GH for years, but had to give them up for my heath.  They were both making me sick.  I cannot and will not sit through another mob storyline, even if Robert DeNiro joins GH.  I had my fill 4 or 5 years ago.  The performances are brilliant, the stories pure crap.  Just thinking about watching either show again, gives me chills.   

Luke and Jamie keep up the good work, you both continually sing the praises of actors and soaps that deserve positive attention. 

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I cant speak for anyone else but  I first starting watching OLTL when Dorian was still with Herb Callison and Asa was in love with Samantha Vernon (I still remember the big party with them all riding).  I watched through the big Jenny/Katrina baby switch story - though I readily admit I was pretty young then and with no vcrs could not watch daily.  At any rate, that hardly makes me a "new viewer"

Are you making the case that the rapemance really was just more todd at his usual bent?  I just dont see it that way. 

I still enjoy the show, but I think the Tarty storyline was a huge mistake and I dont think its unfair for viewers to still be turned off/complaining about it given that it airent not all that long ago.  My complaint with the Dorian Mel storyline was just the stupidity of it...I didnt care that she was pretending to be gay just that the storyline wasnt written very smartly.

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Interesting podcast, thank you and congratulations.

I have watched this show since 1980 when I was in grade school and unfortunately I do not believe this headwriter has mined the deep history of this show. RC has tremendous abilities, however, I feel there is a lack of heart and, most especially intelligence, in his writing. I shake my head when I read or hear some of the stuff this writer says about his stories.
 
In his interview with Michael Logan he said something to the effect if you didn't like the gay story, you have Todd and Rex. Todd and Rex? Not an inspiring endorsement for this viewer to watch. He claims Dorian would do anything to win. I agree. Pretending to be gay. Hell no. Robin Strasser in her interview with out.com said this was not classic Dorian, it was out of left field. It did NOT mine her deep history nor did it showcase the fabulous rivalry between Dorian and Viki. It was clunky and stupid. 

He has said during the Todd rapes and holds hostage the woman he and the friends he encouraged to gang rape that the two actors sold this story because they had great chemistry. What? This viewer saw no chemistry. I saw a woman playing a little piano for days on end and going on a picnic and then begging her rapist to have sex with her. It was vile. It was disgusting. Then RC decides to go back to the KAD days because Todd wasn't the only one who raped Marty. 

Rex as the most sought after guy on the block is a joke. I cannot stand Stacey, but I will never buy she or any woman would carry a torch for that character.

Now we have Mitch ruling the Llanview.  

Where is the heart and soul of this show? Why are such vile and boring men -Todd, Rex, Mitch, John at the heart of every story? When will there be a true meaty story for Dorian and Viki? Where is the Dorian and Viki relationship? (and I do not mean the catty, teenage stuff this headwriter pens -where is the nuance, the meaningful exchanges) Why is Blair nothing more than a spare part in Todd's story?

I watch for certain actors anymore; I wish it were for their stories.