Daytime Confidential's 10 Worst Soap Couples of 2009



No. 10: Jason and Sam, General Hospital

Daytime Confidential has a reputation for being a pro-Liason site. Okay, technically this isn't an undeserved rap, since the majority of our bloggers favor the Jason and Liz (Steve Burton and Rebecca Herbst) pairing over JaSam (We still love ya, Jillian!), but our mourning over the loss of Liason had absolutely nothing to do with why JaSam finds itself on our list of the Worst Couples of 2009— we promise. Brian Frons's manufactured, wannabe Bonnie and Clyde pairing earned their spot on this list without any help from Nurse Liz Webber. After forcing Bob Guza to split up Liason, reportedly citing JaSam's popularity over Liason (yeah, tell that to the Nielsens), Frons and JaSam lovers got their dream come true in 2009, while the rest of us threw up a little in our mouths as Sam re-entered Jason's orbit via a rushed kidnapping storyline for Jason and Liz's lovechild Jake, that saw Sam literally try to make up for having watched Jake being kidnapped herself earlier, not to mention hiring goons to terrorize Jason's son and little Cameron, all before the commercial break during a car scene. If that wasn't bad enough, the moment JaSam begin "finding their way back to one another", GH became a watered down version of Mr. and Mrs. Smith, once again, thanks to JaSam's mobtacular activities. Kudos to  Burton and Kelly Monaco for giving it their all in trying to sell this farce, but sorry Fronsie, we ain't buying it!

No. 9: Frank and Natalia, Guiding Light

Poor Frank Cooper (Frank Dicopolous). Ever since his beloved Eleni dumped him to go off to become the next Rachael Ray, Guiding Light's top cop has endured one romantic disaster after another. In 2009, Cupid gave Frank one, final cosmic wedgie by having him fall for latent lesbian Natalia Rivera (Jessica Leccia). Frank remained clueless about Natalia's obvious affections for Olivia Spencer (Crystal Chappell) for much of the year, even proposing marriage to the Friend of Ellen and Portia. Fans of Otalia went crazy when Natalia proved a runaway bride during her nuptials to Frank, only to be found by Olivia, who confessed her love for Natalia at a snow-covered gazebo in the center of town (Swoon!). Not that it was smooth sailing for the pair, Frank's little swimmers had managed to do Greece proud, when Natalia found herself preggers by Harley's big bro. It would have been kinder to put a "Kick Me" sign on Cooper's back. Otalia fans and critics alike were incensed by this sexist, all-too-typical plot twist. Frank went from being one of GL's most beloved heroes, to a representation of everything TPTB were doing to try to quiet the growing Otalia storm. By the end of the show, Natalia and Olivia were finally together and Frank found happiness with Blake (Liz Keifer).Unfortunately that wasn't enough to make us forget how Frank and Natalia had been one of the Worst Couples in Soaps in 2009.


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Ack I just lost my post...  Lets try this again.

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a list, plan, outline, or the like, of things to be done, matters to be acted or voted upon, etc.: The chairman says we have a lengthy agenda this afternoon.

An AGENDA is not a conspiracy.

My point is to pick popular couples gets clicks.  Y'all are acting like I said DC is promoting Nazism.  Its likely why couples like Rebecca and Nik didnt make the list.  No one would care.

As for saying they were LYING, I think thats a little harsh.  I am sure ALL of us at times have said I think X because Y and then a friend says really?  You sure it isnt partly this other reason and in hindsight its a little of both.

I think its absurd to say its a fair thing to say the site is pro-Jiz and then turn around and say that your passion for them had ZERO to do with your thinking on one of the characters new pairings.  Many times people say oh you just hate Liz because of Sam, or you just hate Sam because of Liz.  I always say no, I hated Lizard long before Sam, but I have never said my love for Sam had ZERO to do with it.  I dont think anyone can completely compartmentalize that way, let alone a group as large as the DC staff.

So whats the terribly disrespectful agenda I said they have - they want more clicks on their site and they want their favorite actress front burner with a front burner character.  OH MY GOD...what a HORRIBLE THING TO SAY...SHOCKING!!!.  Let me go on record as saying that if someone says I want a project that I am working on to be successful and I want to watch my favorites on screen, I WONT be offended.  In fact, if thats the worst, most disrectful thing anyone ever says about me, I will consider myself fortunate indeed.

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Hey, everyone, they ae just onscreen couple and its no use to get crazy over it.  Jamey and Jillian have a good time ribbing each other over it, but they don't take it to the streets.  I am Jasam and NiZ fan.

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I may argue with this list, but to say that any of us are being disrespectful to people, insulting people,unappreciative of people's hard work is a bunch of bullsh*t. I've been coming to this site for years (and before that the old TFO forums). I've told many of the bloggers multiple times that I appreciate what they do, I continue to come here and post/view their blogs as a show of support, I've recommended this site to lots of other people, I've tweeted their posts many times (in a sense, promoting them), I've defended them on other sites that can be unfairly harsh, and I've supported them with my money as well (albeit awhile ago, things are tight for me at the moment.)

Daisy, not sure if this comment was directed at me but I never said that you or anyone were not appreciative of the site and the work they do but with that being said some people were saying that Luke and Jamey and some of the other DC staff were lying about their whole Jasam is on the list is not about Liason comment and to say that they did that to get hits is a cheap shot in my opinion. Obviously they like liason on this site and obviously they want the site to be popular but to say that they putting them on the list just to get hits and that they are lying about what they are saying is in my opinion a little disrespectful.

JUST TO CLARIFY I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE SAYING THIS IS A PRO LIASON SITE BECAUSE DUH IT IS. ITS WHEN PEOPLE ATTACK SOMEONES CHARACTER THAT I GET ANGRY.  

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siomonstuart: we're not taking it to the streets (brass knuckles haven't come out yet, lol) but when people claim I'm disrespectful, not appreciative of people's hardwork and tell me to get a life and stop coming to the site, all because I pointed out that some on DC do indeed "campaign for Liason" (which isn't even a big deal), then I'm gonna argue with them, lol

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Jillian Oh I definitely agree. Their reunion was definitely not organic, how could it be with Sam being redeemed so unaturally quick?

Also I think it's irrelevant for people to post about certain other bad GH couples not making it onto the list ie. Rebecca and Nik because people wouldn't care. Umm...if people don't care than how could they be on a list of top 10 WORST couples of 09?.....lol.

Also, I've seen many Jasam fans on other message boards express their distate of how Jasam is this time around. Specifically how they never talk about their relationship and how Sam's independence has been shattered.

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Mabye it's just me but I just don't get how JaSam was "manufactured".  If they truly were manufactured,  TPTB, Frons or whoever would have just put Jason and Sam together romantically back in 2008 when then were first in each others orbit again.  But that didn't happen.  Jason was still "in love" with Liz and Sam and Lucky were still together.  And after Liason did call it quits, Sam and Jason didn't immediately jump each other bones.  They became friends.  They were friends for MONTHS before anything romantic happened.  They were not forced down our throats.  Yes, they spent more and more time together, working together, as FRIENDS.  And in Mexico...they acknowledged that their past was messy and that they made mistakes....that everything became complicated.  They didn't just act as if either of them had not made mistakes; they knew they had.  They may have not talked about everything that went down between them yet, but it has been said more then once that they forgive each other.

Liason, on the other hand, declared their love sortly after JaSam's breakup.  Ick.  Talk about manufactured...lol.

JaSam have only been a couple again for how much of 2009 and they are in the top ten worst couples?  Sigh...

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FronsNGuzaSuck: My comment wasn't directed at you in particular, but in regards to several comments made...it was just easier to write a general response than to write each person individually. I've always been supportive of DC and all the bloggers and I wanted to make that clear.

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Jamey I never said you had to be unbiased. 

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Yep, DC picks "popular people for hits", just for hits, which of course is why we LOVE Eric Braeden. (rolls eyes). Sorry, again to disappoint, ETT. We promote the couples we LIKE, if they happen to be popular, of COURSE we capitalize off of that. Trust me, we realize JaSam is popular, online, but there ain't enough hits in Motown to make me favor them. Cane and Lily are one of Y&R's most popular couples online, but we have dissed them, for most of our run on this blog. You are making it like we are bandwagon jumpers. Regan has loved Liason for 10 years. Luke has loved them for a long time too. I fell in love with Liason, when Liz and Jason first had sex, sorry, there was no calculated, "OMG, this will be the couple that gets us hits". You just can't seem to deal with the fact that on our blog, Liason is favored, not just by us, but by the majority of our 250,000 monthy readers. Look at the polls. We did these lists democratically. JaSam was on my worst list, Luke's and Regan's. We didn't "conspire" to have the same people on our lists. I think Todd and Blair were one of 2009's best couples, but no one else voted them on. As you see, Todd and Tea are on the list. Sorry, again to disappoint. LOL Maybe you will have better luck finding out who killed JFk?
 

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Furthermore, IF we truly had some sinister agenda, wouldn't we have put Liason on the best couples list this year??? 
 

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Jamey how come every time you disagree with me you call me ETT.  Should I start calling you Janey when we disagree.

As for the rest of it, I really could care less to debate it any further.  I am being accussed of being disrespectful and unappreciated, that wasnt what I said but so be it.  I guess its just like Jiz fans to see things that arent there and read into something things that werent said.

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FronsNGuzaSuck & SiomonStuart they don't mean you its all about me! The agenda pushing broad from NY, who's conspiring with Liason lovin fans! 

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I call you ETT because, I am addressing you, and there are tons of comments, and it is so convenient for you to make these large, reaching statements claiming you know what Luke and I are doing and why, then you decide, "you don't want to discuss them anymore". Well, don't come in the kitchen if you can't stand the heat! You can debate stuff all day long, without attempting to claim some sort of knowledge into the inner workings of our thinking. There is no inner works of our thinking. We don't sit up and strategize this. We have better things to do. We made lists of who we thought were best or worst, cross referenced them, and posted. The End.
 

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Okay, just realized I am typing ETT, and not EET. I see where at least that part of the confusion came from. LOL
 

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FronsNGuzaSuck & SiomonStuart they don't mean you its all about me! The agenda pushing broad from NY, who's conspiring with Liason! 

i THINK IT MAY BE ABOUT BOTH OF US SINCE WE KIND OF SAID THE SAME THING. LOL

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Ericas Evil Twin..EET

NOT

ETT

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And I'm just a disrespectful, unappreciative no-life broad from NJ, lol

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FronsNGuzaSuck (catchy name!)Yes I'm the one that Luke and Jamey are conspiring with their agendas and pimping. They broke the code with our strategy and figured out the inner thoughts of Dc.

As long as you knew it Daisyclover I don't need to go over it anymore. 

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FronsNGuzaSuck & Jillian: With all the posts, it's hard to know what you're referring to...but if it's my post... it wasn't really about either of you, it was about me and how I think it's unfair for people to say that I'm disrespectful or unappreciative of DC...

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Oops, almost missed this: "We promote the couples we LIKE" - Jamey, yes exactly!!! IMO, that's the basis for this discussion and since it's something we can all agree on there's no need for an argument.

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Jillian Bowe wrote:
Look. Jamey and Luke have NO AGENDA! Its disrespectful and insulting to this site and myself to say so! If that was the case why haven't either one of them said on the blog or in a podcast to call/e-mail/write in via snail mail or vote with your remote to end Jasam and get Liason back?! Has there been a mass campaign to GH and Frons to get Liason back? ENOUGH already!

I couldnt get the search function to work on my computer...and though I said I was done debating I finally was able to find the piece I was looking for earlier.

http://www.daytimeconfidential.com/2009/02/liason-here-and-now-at-dcif-n...

Jillian you say the proof that there is no agenda is that no one is advocating for a campaign to end JaSam - no vote with your remote, but yet thats EXACTLY what happened

The above link is to a video that Jamey posted for Valentines Day.  Underneath he rights
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If Brian Frons thinks I'm gonna give up on the only couple in the last half a decade who proved their could still be Love In The Afternoon he has another thing coming! Just look at the way that man looks at that woman and their child and tell me it doesn't make you believe in true love again this Valentine's Day. VOTE WITH YOUR REMOTE AGAINST JASAM! Clip courtesy of Reid9950.

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Daisy Clover I have no issue with what you've said. I just don't like mine or Luke's passion for soaps being negated to something like "oh this is all for hits". I wouldn't do this if it was just for hits. I could do a black gossip blog, etc, and I know you didn't say that, so this isn't addressed at you.
 

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One more thing and then I really do have to run...

When the Carnival story started Jamey you posted a blog where he said

Jason (Steve Burton) and Sam (Kelly Monaco) may be cute, and I'm willing to admit they have chemistry, but they shouldn't be the endgame.

Now you say you voted for JaSam as top ten worst for 09.

So how does a couple that by your own words has chemistry and is cute make the worst list.  Does that mean all the couples that WERENT on the list are all ALSO cute and have chemistry.  It seems to me that non-cute, non chemistry couples would have earned your vote before a couple with those positive attributes....UNLESS....its your love for Jiz coloring your vote.

If so, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, I am just pointing out the facts.

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OMG...luvs it!
BRAVO DC!!!!
Great picks for the Top 10 WORST couples!
I agree that Billy&Mac, Jasam and Niz should and definitely deserve to be on this list.
Ugg...these pairings are just straight up painful to watch!

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EET, I did say that, no need to send out for subpoena, but everything that has come after that point, all the awkward, feeling around each other (when they used to bang), and those annoying little girls pushing them together, and them acting like they were too shy to say they like each other, like they were a pair of 1st graders, instead of 35 year olds, reeked of TPTB trying to create something, that IMO wasn't there. I buy Sam's feelings, but not Jason's. Jason would never forgive her, and he doesn't love her IMO. It looks forced and awkward. Opinions change from day to day. I also hated Stacy Morasco, and I am sure you can find blogs to prove that, now I think she's a hoot.
 

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Jason and Sam do belong in the worst and so does Liz and Niz. I don't know what idiot at GH thought putting Sam and Jason back together again was a good idea. This is so against what the real Jason would do. Sam hurt his son and why does the TIIC and the Sam fans keep forgetting that fact. He told her he would kill her. All this does is make Jason look bad. Add to the fact, they neither one act like they are in love.

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ChrisGA, I'm glad I'm not completely alone on not thinking Ford is the only reason Billy/Mac failed, or in thinking Brenda Epperson wasn't bad. I don't see any big difference between her work and Eileen's work since Eileen's return. She certainly seemed to capture more of the character than Billy Miller has as Billy -- this Billy is nothing like David Tom's Billy. That's the writing's fault, not Miller's, but if we're going to talk about questionable recasts, we can't single her out without mentioning him.

Y&R is very good at setting up scapegoats. People will always know to blame Thom Bierdz, or Clementine Ford, or Chris Engen, or whoever, for the continual failings of the writing and producing and directing. And certain other actors, who are far from flawless, are praised to the skies, because they aren't in the scapegoat role.

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EET, go take some chill pills. You take everything too seriously and your posts make me feel like you belong in a loony bin.

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Worst couple ever was Liz and Jason.  This was one happy camper when that storyline was dumped.  I think Spinelli and Maxi should be on that list as well.  They are awful and just so not believable.  I would love to see a category for the most sickening sweet we are so perfect couple which would be Patrick and Robin - another unbelievable pairing.  But then this is what soaps are all about - you love and hate the characters, and that is what keeps me watching. 

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I registered to say thanks for the GH part of the list (it's the only soap I watch closely, so I can't comment on the other entries). I would quibble with the relative rankings of the couples, but not their inclusion. I'm just a show fan, not really a couples fan, so my comments aren't based on a preference for any particular pairing.

I actually thought there was some possibility of a good story for Elizabeth and Nikolas early on. Then it turned into another instance of the writers taking a germ of a good idea, running roughshod with it, and turning it into the bleakest and most frustrating torture possible. Ultimately, though, I think the writing for JJ's Lucky sabotaged the potential for Nik and Liz. In a delusional and twisted way, I'm still clinging to a shred of hope for them, but only because I'm a hopeless champion of underdogs, and the writers have turned them into that for me through the single-minded and outrageously imbalanced elevation of Lucky. (Also, I just want to start off the new year hoping that the writers might have received a clue for Christmas that there COULD be something new under the sun in PC!)
 

As for Jason and Sam, for me they're built on a quicksand of omissions of fact and unanswered questions. There's no firm foundation there for this reunion because the writing has to pretend that what should have been a defining part of their history never happened. Consequently, they're just not very entertaining to watch. On screen it actually looks like the writers and the actors are having to tiptoe around too much of the past to make this believable as the great love they're trying to depict. It's all very bland and weak.