Daytime Confidential's 10 Worst Soap Couples of 2009



No. 3: Billy and Mac, The Young and the Restless

It was inevitable for The Young and the Restless to attempt to play out one of their greatest young adult love stories, when the soap decided to reverse Kay Alden's boneheaded move of making Billy and Mac (Billy Miller and Clementine Ford) cousins. By revealing that Jill Abbott (Jess Walton) wasn't really the daughter of Katherine Chancellor (Jeanne Cooper) in 2009, Y&R's writing team freed the once starcrossed lovers to finally be together. It's too bad Billy and Mac's magic left with David Tom and Ashley Bashioum. Billy and Mac as a couple were over long before the insatiable Miller or the unimpressive Ford joined the soap opera. Felled by numerous bad recasts, fans had all but forgotten the sweet teen romance from the late 90's'/early 00's. Y&R managed to circumvent the Billy recast curse by hiring Miller in late 2008. The actor proved not only to be an amazing recast, but quickly became one of the best leading men in the soap's storied history in 2009 (Yeah, we said it!). Unfortunately we can't say the same for his screen partner. While Ford may possess a decent pedigree (in case you were under a rock in 2009, she's the daughter of Cybil Shepherd), and a sapphic fanbase from her L-Word days, the actress recites her dialogue in the most robotic, monotone manner we've seen on Y&R since Brenda Epperson vacated the role of Faux- Ashley Abbott. Sorry Y&R, this ship has sailed and sunk. Let's move on already.


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lel: I think the stupidest thing happening on daytime is All My Children, but since Pratt just got fired that could change, lol

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lol..alright Daisy, just as long as we agree

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Go Niz

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What does the guy have to offer any woman except the chance to be shot at on a good day and shot on a bad day.

Lel...Your entire post was so awesomely accurate and hilarious, but that line just takes the cake.  I am a Sam fan first, but I also consider myself a JaSammer because Sam seems happy and I support any pairing that achieves this result - hence my first-class ticket on the LuSam train not too long ago.

But I agree that, at the end of the day, when a relationship with Jason ends it's the woman who ends up being the bad guy while St. Jasus comes out smelling like roses.  Just ask Robin Scorpio, who was practically stoned in the town square after she (gasp!) told the truth about Michael.

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But I agree that, at the end of the day, when a relationship with Jason ends it's the woman who ends up being the bad guy while St. Jasus comes out smelling like roses.  Just ask Robin Scorpio, who was practically stoned in the town square after she (gasp!) told the truth about Michael

Not everyone Mac is still blaming Jason for this LOL
But wasn't it her fault she did told AJ something Jason thought was safe ,she did hurt his trust in her .........
She was the one who did the move .....
But in the end of the day they both forgave each other common the main reason she met Patrick is her needing to save Jason , her fight on Jason life , I still remember the scenes were Robin , Sam and Carly working together to save Jason life .....

By the way this writer r is Jason FF ...

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While it's not related to the hot topic of the day, I just wanted to sneak in my two cents on Frank and Natalia from GL making the list. I absolutely cracked up at the perfect photo you chose. It reminded me of an earlier episode where poor Frank uttered what was one of the funniest lines of the year, that perfectly summed up Natalia's feelings for him. He'd been trying for some time to get her to go out with him and she had absolutely no interest. But Buzz kept encouraging Frank to go for it, so Frank grabbed Nat and impulsively kissed her. She pulled away with much the same look on her face, and as Frank later described it to Buzz: "She looked like I smacked her in the mouth with a cold mackerel." Yup, it sure did! How Frank went from that clarity, to the sheer dopey obliviousness he demonstrated for the rest of their relationship, is beyond me. Love is blind, but not that blind! The cold mackerel look made many a return appearance, and yet all Frank seemed to see was a woman who loved him??? And Nat's hardly blameless, of course. Nothing like finally agreeing to date a guy just to show the town, your roommate, and yourself, that you have a boyfriend!

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GH Lover - Even Jason now recognizes that Robin was right.  Carly has said that she shouldn't have gotten her children involved with the mob.  Robin told the truth.  Isn't there a quote about the truth setting you free?  It certainly set Robin free.  If she hadn't told the truth, she may never have left Jason and went to Paris.  She may never have become a doctor or met Patrick.  Robin was the one in the right.

I didn't get past the #10 spot on the list because I was laughing so hard and wanted to read all of the comments.  It was real smart to make Jason and Sam #10 and have their picture featured at the start of the article

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GHvetfan wrote:
I didn't get past the #10 spot on the list because I was laughing so hard and wanted to read all of the comments.  It was real smart to make Jason and Sam #10 and have their picture featured at the start of the article

Not for nothing dont ya think??

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That is just good marketing,  Can't fault them for that!!!

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The picture is rather funny too.  They both look so apologetic.

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GHVetfan - I know its good marketing and I dont fault them at all, but that is EXACTLY what I mean about picking them because they have a following and staging it in a way that invites hits (plus using a less than flattering pic) - in other words an AGENDA.  (which again is NOT a conspiracy)

I got slammed up one side and down the other for being "disrespectful" and yet here is a Liz fan saying the same thing just not using the A word. 

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 Well GHvetfan My point was on ,why people say that the woman is fault  in their breakup with Jason is, that in many ways Robin is to blame, she did the first move at that time, she betrayed Jason's trust , it doesn't matter if it was right or wrong she did ..

And by the way I am for one who thinks she was wrong , that was not her secret to tell, maybe if she wouldn't told the truth Jason would still be Michael dad and the shooting would have  never happen ...
And Carly is still mad at Robin for the same reason .... 

But it doesn't matter cos Robin and Jason got trough this and they are good friends and I am still Robin Fan ...

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Do not EVER tell Robin a secret!!!

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I am sorry GH Lover but Jason should have known better.  This is Robin we are talking about.  It isn't Carly.  Robin is a truth teller.  He should have known her well enough to understand that about her.  He was asking her to keep a secret from the Quartermaines.  Alan was her go to guy since she found out about her HIV status.  She grew up with AJ and Jason.  This wasn't really Jason's secret that she told.  It was Carly's.  Robin really didn't have any loyalty to Carly.  Carly treated her like crap.  Yes, Robin would keep a secret for Jason or Sonny.  She didn't have to keep a secret for Carly that involved the Q's.  I have never faulted her for that.

EET - I don't see it as disrespectful to point out that using Sam and Jason for the cover photo was a smart choice.   Would as many people have clicked on the article if another couple was featured?  I have no way of knowing.  I just thought it was funny.  That photo makes them look really sorry to be involved in whatever.  It didn't have to be a conscious choice.  It doesn't have to be a conspiracy or an agenda. 

And FYI - yes, I like Liz.  That doesn't mean I am pro-Liason in the sense that you are anti-Liason.  I truly am a fan of the veterans on the show.  My wish is that they were all used as well as OLTL uses their cast.  I am equally a fan of Monica and Edward. I wish they would use Lesley Webber, Audrey Hardy, and TRacy Q as well as OLTL uses Vicki, Bo, Clint, and Nora.  I wish they would bring back Scott and Laura.  I would be oh so happy if Lucy Coe were to come back.  They can't do that because there isn't enough room in the Sonny and Jason hour.  For me, Liason represents the history of the show and the natural ties between all of the vet families. 

I do not want Liz swallowed by the mob.  I want Jason to shake the mob and free the show from bad action.  It is that simple.  At this point though, I don't want Jason anywhere near Liz or her kids because they will just keep doing the danger dance which was so incredibly stupid.  I don't have an anti-Sam agenda.  I have a pro-GH agenda.  Sam seems like she is so intricately tied to all of the negative parts of GH.  I just cannot root for her as long as the writers don't allow her to root for herself.

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There was no accusation in what I was saying - just pointing out that we were saying a very similiar thing.

And FYI I am not anti-Liason as much as I am anti Liz.  I loved her big time with the early LL2 years.  For personal reasons she lost me when Ric lead Carly to believe he had raped her and Carly came to warn her about a man she saw as violent.  Instead of offering Carly support or even keeping her mouth shut, she first ripped into Carly and then, learning what she did about Ric's role in that, she excused it by continuing in the LiRic relationship.  No Carly was not raped, but she went through all the emotional trauma that that entailed.  When she left Zander to die and then let Nik initially take the blame she lost more points with me, esp. when Ric gave the order to fire, thus killing Zander. I also didnt love how she left Jason twisting in the wind when Ric endangered Courtney.  I would argue that LiRic killed most of the love I had for the Liz character.   Her actions leading up to the Jiz ONS killed the rest.

Now that tptb are rekindeling the early LL2 days I find myself wanting to like Liz again, but I cant stop thinking that my poor Lucky is going to be crushed yet again and I hate that as Lucky is one of my favorite characters and I loathe that her character has become stagnant - the same mistakes being made over and over again with no learning or acknowledgement of her poor choices.  I dont like characters that cause destruction and never own any of it and playing the victim to escape blame doesnt resonate with me one bit.

As for vets - I have said repeatedly that I want Robert and Anna to come back.  My wish list was that either Robert or Sean Donnelly or hell even Jeff Webber be brought in as Sam's father and then have JaSam pushed out of the mob and into the WSB.  the Jeff character and the Sean character also have ties to monica and monica has always had an interesting relationship with Sam, so I would love to see her playing a roll into helping to establish that paternal relationship.   I said when GV was in the role of lucky how much I want Laura to come back to PC as a Baldwin again with Scotty and Serena in tow -  Serena becoming a love interest for either Lucky or Ethan.    And dont get me started on how much I love Lucy Coe.  I would have loved to see Lucy, even maybe as a Sonny love interest instead of the insufferable Olivia.  I have also said repeatedly that I would like SpinSam to be hired as in house investigators for ELQ as I thought the Edward-Sam-Tracy dynamic was an interesting one and would amp up that aspect of the canvas.

SO yes, like you I have a pro-GH agenda and I would like to see more of Sam outside of the mob arena.  I love her dynamic with Jason, but more importantly I like her as a friend to Spixie, as a sister to Molly and Krisitina and a s a daughter to Alexis.  I think the canvas is better balanced in the months leading up to Franco and unfortunately that was a less than stellar detour on that path.  I would like to see some of the vets back and a return to balance, but please dont imply that not liking ONE vet, namely Lizard, is being anti-vet because thats far from accurate.

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EET - I'm speechless..........  well no I"m really not.  BRAVO BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

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EET- AWESOME!! I am with ya on that girlfriend!  But can we bring FAISON back at all?!     I KNOW I am totally annoying on this, but I want my Faison back!  Waahhhh....

I cannot even tell you how OVERJOYED I would be to have the GREAT Lucy Coe back!!

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FFIT I think new characters can be great but old characters from a show are usually even better.  Rather than always bringing in a new villian du jour, bringing in someone like Faison as part of the Valentin story for example only plays on history.  OLTL does this really well.  Or bringing Robert and Anna back AS A COUPLE might entice Faison to come out of hiding.   I could see Robert finding out Sam is his daughter and going ballistic over her being involved with a hitman.  He gets the goods on SaSon and agrees to bury it if Sonny becomes an informant about weapons smuggling and Jason goes to the WSB.  That would give tptb a chance to have Jason as the danger/action guy without everything being mob and it creates an organic tension between Sonny and Jason that would provide a good meaty challange to their friendship.  

I dont see why the rumored upcoming Sam paternity reveal  has to be a new character when there is so much great GH history waiting to be mined.

But I have said all this before.  I am only saying it again because I dont want anyone to take my dislike for one character as being anti vet.  I started watching because of Luke/Laura/Scotty and Rick/Monica/Alan with Tracy interfering from the sidelines.  I absolutely have an affinity for those characters.  I get that Lizard is a Hardy and as such comes with a family history, but I cant like a character solely for its family background.  The Carly thing still sticks at me...of all the characters on the canvas, its her character that should have understood that one of the most difficult, if not THE MOST difficult aspect of coming forward after a rape is wondering whether you will be believed.  I hated that time period like crazy, but esp. that part.  -- and lets not forget that while Lizard is a Hardy, Carly is a SPENCER which is just as much a legacy family.

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 GHvtefan Again it was Jason secret , he wanted to remain Michael's dad, he loved and also he was good at that .....
Robin hurt him the same that she hurt Carly ........

About GH history , I am Jason fan and I love the mob side , But I want Jason to be more involved with the Q's !!!!!!
I love his scenes with Monica , I love watching how it is hard on him because all the hurt that he did to her , I think people forget that when Michael woke up and his Drama it also infected Jason , in the way that he finally realized what pain he did and how he was wrong when he woke up , and was angry at the Q's ...
You could feel him realize that the Q;s just wanted to help him and to love him ..
The scenes when he goes to the mansion , and talks with Monica and Edward about Michael moving in , and Jason asking sorry for all the hurt he did was amazing stuff.....
It came to the point were Sonny asks Jason if he regret coming to work for Sonny , in  other words does Jason regret being Sonny friend ?????

I want to see more scenes like this maybe seeing Jason more regretting  on the path he did, and have him more in connection with the Q's , and than have Sonny feeling envy that Jason is getting back to the Q's....
I think Sam can help him she loves the Q's , and the Q's love them Edward especially loves Sam , she worked for him for a short time , and Monica really loves her ..
Sam loves Monica she wasn't mad at her after the Car accident , she could but she didn't!

Here is A story that can be a JaSam and family  ....

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By the way the pic of JaSam was taken from the episode were Maxi and Spinelli both showed up and saw them kissing ....
Spinelli was so much Happy and he was talking and talking how perfect this is that JaSam came back and that they are perfect ...
Jason and Sam just came back from the Mexico adventure , were they both were tired and didn't really felt comfortable after they just slept together and Spienlli was talking and talking .........


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GH LOVER wrote:
...in many ways Robin is to blame, she did the first move at that time, she betrayed Jason's trust , it doesn't matter if it was right or wrong she did...And by the way I am for one who thinks she was wrong , that was not her secret to tell, maybe if she wouldn't told the truth Jason would still be Michael dad and the shooting would have  never happen...And Carly is still mad at Robin for the same reason....

GH Lover...I have SO many problems with your post that I don't even know where to BEGIN.  How can you argue that Robin is to blame REGARDLESS of whether her actions were right or wrong???  ROBIN wasn't the one who got pregnant by ONE Quartermaine stud and tried to pass it off as another's.

I almost choked on my Sprite from reading your next comment.  Good Lord, are you THAT blinded by St. Jasus?  Sonny and Jason are in the MOB, for crying out loud!  I would argue that Michael would be even WORSE off Robin hadn't told the truth.  Almost everything that has happened to Michael has been the result of Sonny and Jason's MOB ACTIVITIES.  To even argue that Robin set everything in motion and is even PARTLY to blame for Michael's shooting is INSANE to me!!!

Further, the whole "it's not my secret to tell" thing is a total line of CRAP.  Whenever a secret has far-reaching consequences, it doesn't have ONE owner, in my opinion.  For example, how are you feeling about the fact that Luke doesn't feel the need to enlighten his SON about Ho-Bag Apaloosa?  Technically, the secret "belongs" to Nik and Liz, but I suspect that once Lucky finds out that Luke KNEW and said NOTHING, I'm pretty sure he's gonna be more than a little ticked.  Here's another example - let's say that Ethan catches Keifer abusing Kristina.  If he decides to keep his mouth shut "because it's Krissy's secret to tell," how well do you think THAT brilliant decision will go over with her family once the truth comes out?

As for Carly still being pissed at Robin, it's not as if Carly can claim the moral high ground here.  Besides, she's pissed at Robin because revealing Michael's paternity ruined HER BIG PLANS, not because Robin was wrong.

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 Hey Hey Hey Hey 
I didn't blame Robin for Michael shooting I would never do that NEVER !!
SO CALM DOWN lol
All I said is that we don't know what would have happened if Michael would have stayed with Jason ...
My opinion is that Jason is a better father than Sonny and would have never let him go without guards .......
And This is my opinion form the starts that Jason is a good father that will not let his children get hurt this is why I hate Liz for taking his son away from him ......
If I remember Sam thinks the same as I ... 
Robin is never and will never be  a cause  for Michael shooting and I didn't mean to say that she is ....

And also Sorry but when Robin told the truth she didn't said it because she thought it was the right thing to do she did it so Jason will be her and not Carly ...
to free Jason from Michael and Carly ..

Carly is mad at Robin for breaking her dream family with Jason that I agree .. and also for telling the something that wasn't her ,,,,,

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 Also that compare with Niz secret to Michael is not the same ...
Luke needs to say something because this His son we are talking about he is the one who get hurt ...
If Ethan will find out the truth about Kris and the Jerk he will have to say the truth to protect Kris ...
But Michael is a different thing ... ..
And in my guess Robin knows that Jake is Jason's , for now , why don't she tell the truth to the Q's they are hurting more than with Michael ???
So why not OH because it is not her secret to tell right ???

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GH Lover...You can't argue that Robin is keeping Jake's paternity a secret because it's "not hers to tell," when we have been given ZERO evidence of her knowledge in the first place, LOL.

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All I said is that we don't know what would have happened if Michael would have stayed with Jason ...

 

he would have been in the same life that he is in now.  we don't know that he would have ended up shot in the warehouse, but  SOMETHING would have happened. anyone connected to sonny and Jason, for any reason, can without a doubt expect to deal with shootings, kidnappings, fires,  and car bombs.

my only problem with Robin telling, was the timing and the way she did it.

Robin was waiting for jason when he brought that baby home. He told her the truth standing right there in Sonnys pent house.  Did she run to the Qs?  No.  She helped him take care of that kid while Carly was gone. She lived with them. She watched him fall in love with that little boy.  Carly came back, and things went down hill. Her and Jason broke up. And her and Carly got in to a fight. Thats when she told AJ. She blamed carly for coming between her and Jason, so before she took off to Paris again, she told the secret for the sole purpose of blowing Carly's plans.  I wouldn't even have a problem with that..........IF she hadn't done it under the guise of "freeing" Jason.
If that was the case, and she really cared that much about the truth, she would have done it the day she found out. Not a year later.

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SamRocks I thinks she know even that we don't have proof  he real proof But that's my opinion 
And as Much As I love Robin and I do but her reason to tell the truth was not because it was right it was because she wanted Jason to be away from Carly that Carly will have nothing on him ...
She could have said the truth a long time before she did but she didn't WHY??

And more this is my opinion I always believed that Jason is Michael father and it should have remain that .... and that Michael would still be better if he was under Jason care..
I hate that Jason is with Michael and all the kids but not with  his own son ...

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To be fair, what woman OTHER than Courtney would have wanted to solidify Carly's hold on Jason?

I guess Robin spilling the beans doesn't bother me because, at the end of the day, had Carly NOT LIED in the first place, then Robin wouldn't have been able to take advantage of the info.  It's as ridiculous as her coming after Kate for sleeping with Jax...when she and Sonny set everything in motion by bumping uglies in the back of that limo.

The best way to make sure that someone like Robin is never in a POSITION to blow your life apart is to stop doing DUMB stuff, LOL.  That's how Liz was able to control Sam to some extent during part of the LuSam relationship.  It's how Gisele (or Clarice?) was able to get Kate to do her bidding.  It's how Claudia (of all people) was able to keep Olivia on a short leash. 

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jlj0117 wrote:
my only problem with Robin telling, was the timing and the way she did it.

Robin was waiting for jason when he brought that baby home. He told her the truth standing right there in Sonnys pent house.  Did she run to the Qs?  No.  She helped him take care of that kid while Carly was gone. She lived with them. She watched him fall in love with that little boy.  Carly came back, and things went down hill. Her and Jason broke up. And her and Carly got in to a fight. Thats when she told AJ. She blamed carly for coming between her and Jason, so before she took off to Paris again, she told the secret for the sole purpose of blowing Carly's plans.  I wouldn't even have a problem with that..........IF she hadn't done it under the guise of "freeing" Jason.
If that was the case, and she really cared that much about the truth, she would have done it the day she found out. Not a year later.

I was just going to ask how she revealed the paternity secret because I thought I remembered that at the time that it felt like it was out of anger with Carly.  I am glad that you remember the details.  I love Robin and I love Carly so when they feud its a challenge, but yeah I remember thinking that if she felt it was morally right she should have told before she starting planning to raise the child with Jason and I agree that she had some culpability in the sense that she let Jason get attached.

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oops I lost the quote feature....all of that first paragraph is jlj's - only the last paragraph is mine.

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The fact that no one has even mentioned Adam and Rafe shows me that they don't belong on the list.  They were not a couple by any stretch of the imagination. 

I also think Frank and Natalia needed to be further up the list like around 6th or so. 

I'm also shocked that Sharon-Adam didn't make the list at all. 

I think CF gets unfair blame for the failure of Bac redux #2.  The writing hasn't been there and neither is the chemistry coming from Billy Miller's end.  Please Y&R just put Mac with JT.