General Hospital: Perkie's Observations




Apparently there's a little town called Delusion-ville. The mayor is none other than Sonny "you're my kid so we have to bond, even though there's a gaping hole in your chest" Corinthos. Of course, the deputy mayor is none other than Elizabeth "I was happy banging your brother, but what will my life be like without you in it" Webber. 

Kudos to Dominic Zamprogna.

Dante was so bang-on in everything he said to Sonny. I was cheering at almost every line that came out of his mouth and shaking my head at almost every line that came out of Sonny's. Sonny actually believes and expects, almost demands that Dante be interested in a father/son relationship despite the fact that he shot him with the intent purpose to kill him. The only good thing is that Dante is an adult so there will be no custody battle and Dante can ignore him as long as possible. 

Lines of the day:
Dante:
 "The fact that your my father means nothing to me."

Dante: "It makes me sick to know that I'm connected to a low life like you."

Dante: "This changes nothing. I still have a badge and you're still a criminal."
Sonny: "But I'm your father."
Dante: "You're everything I despise."

Lulu was another one that was hitting all the right marks today, especially in her conversation with Olivia.
Olivia: "I told the police I didn't see how Dante was shot."
Lulu: "Sonny admitted it to you, but I bet you never mentioned that."

She also tore a strip off of Sonny when he showed up in Dante's room. 
Lulu: "You're worst than garbage. You're a murderer."
Sonny: "I didn't know he was my son."
Lulu: "It was okay to shoot him when he wasn't your son?"

Just as I was getting tired of seeing Lulu in that dress and wondering why no one was bringing her a change of clothes, along comes Maxie. That final scene of Lulu in the shower, crying and slowly falling down the wall, was beautifully done.

I'm disapointed in Lucky. Yes, Liz cheated with his brother, but he is still a father to those two boys and he needs to climb out of that bottle and tackle his responsibilities. No, they are not "her" boys, they are being raised by both of them and he needs to get his butt off that bar stool and step up.

I actually liked the Jax/Michael scene and the point he made when he asked Michael how far he'd go to protect Morgan and his sisters. I wish Jax would take his daughter from the mob killer's place and go home with her. 

Stupid line of the day:
Sonny to Olivia:
 "Dante's a cop who was going to arrest me because he didn't know I was his father."

I'm so glad she reminded him that he was being arrested for killing Claudia and not because of his super sperm.



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I liked the scenes between Sonny and Dante. I agree that Dante had all the good lines and poor doofus Sonny just doesn't get it. I really HATE that they always show Sonny going to church when he does outlandish stuff such as killing someone, getting someone hurt or anything Sonny does that is outlandish. Why do I always feel like he will start burning right there inside that church. This really bothers me and I am not even that religious but it is just so wrong to me.

I don't understand where Maxie thinks she can be the matronly person to make sure the man interested in Lulu is the right man. Like she knows what makes a decent man or if he is trustworthy. I guess she could do what Maxie always does and try to sleep with him to really check him out. LOL. but I really like Maxie even is she is a bit like a ditz.

I think Jax will take his daughter and go home because I do not think Carly will be staying at Jason even one night. But don't know why he should not like his daughter over at her Godfathers home. If he had a problem with Jason then he should have put his foot down on her Godparents, he is the father he has rights also.

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I totally agree with you about the Dante/Sonny scenes! I mean, at least acknowledge that you shot the man in the chest, the excuse "I didn't know you had my blood" just doesn't cut it. Dante saved Morgan's life (and Sonny's), that should overide the "betrayal" factor.

I'm wondering if anyone else felt like Liz was going a little off her rocker when she was talking to Cam. I'm pretty sure you shouldn't be telling your 4 (?) year old how you ruined everything. I mean, she did, but still. I agree with you about Lucky as well. As much as he can't stand the sight of their mother, he needs to step up and take care of his boys.

Ok, and I LOVED the Sam, Jason, Carly, Morgan, and Josselyn scene! That baby is adorable and really seems to have taken to the adults! I really hope that this was the beginning of a Carly/Sam friendship, but I won't hold my breath. Female friendships are hard to find on this show! I remember when everyone thought Michael was dead years ago, and Sam was trying to be there for Carly, but then it never went much further until they were enemies again. Maybe I'm just wanting my favorites to be friends, but we'll see! Smile

Oh, and I can't forget about Lulu's breakdown in the shower. Very well done, I think. I was almost in tears myself.

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I loved JaSam today, especially with them and the baby.  I get so irritated when Carly busts in and wants Jason to drop everything for her, but in this case I was a little less annoyed.  I loved seeing some of Morgan.  I just love all the kids on this show, which is a switch.  I know it's not a popular opinion, but I could NEVER stand that red headed Michael.  He got on my damn nerves.

I like that Lucky isn't taking anymore of Liz's crap.  At some point he'll need to stop feeling sorry for himself, but I'm glad he didn't hop to when Liz mentioned HER sons.  I think Lucky's trying to find a graceful way to bow out, which I still believe is the smart thing.  When Liz said she didn't know what to tell them, Lucky should have said, "Tell them I love them.  Then tell them about their real fathers."  I understand the other point of view, but Lucky has been conned, used, and duped into taking care of her fatherless children and he's finally woken up.

I kind of understand why Maxie is so protective of Lulu, and I actually really like it.  She's missing that sisterly relationship since Georgie died, and Lulu really filled that.  Plus, Maxie knows how fragile Lulu can be and she definitely doesn't want her with some guy that's just going to use her and break her heart.

I'm liking where this Sonny/Dante story is going.  It kind of reminds me of the good old Sonny/Mike story when Mike first came to town.  First the long talk with Luke and now the father/son angst.  I like how they're using history here.

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I loved Dante's smackdown on Sonny today. Dante expressed everything I think about Daddy D-bag. Loved, LOVED Lulu's follow-up when she walked into Dante's hospital room and finished Sonny off only to watch him back away.

Lucky gets a pass right now in my book. He's had a double shock, betrayal by 2 people very close to him, so if he needs time and space then I think he has every right to ask for it.

I liked the Jax/Michael scenes too. Both guys made good with getting everything off their chests.

I also loved Maxie looking out for her girl Lulu's heart by asking Dante if his feelings for Lulu were honorable.
 

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You are spot on today, Perkie!!  Loved GH today and loved Dante and LuLu especially.  I was yelling at the tv every time Sonny said something stupid, which was pretty much everything in this episode.  I'm glaf LuLu got with him and she was right and I'm glad someone has stood up to him.

I still give Lucky a pass for now.  Even though it has been a few days, his kids will be fine.  Liz wasn't worried about them every time she took them to Gram's while she went to see Nic.  Lucky was right too that he was her personal babysitter for awhile so for now she can babysit.

I don' t think Liz should have told Cam as much as she did.  She and Lucky's problems should have been kept between them and not this 5 year old kid.  She should just say your daddy will be seeing you soon and that's it.

Olivia is a hypocrite and she is pissing me off with the "I didn't see him shoot Dante" but if she walked in and anyone else was standing over her son's body with a gun in hand, she surely would have dimed them out.

Also, loved Johnnie, poor Johnnie.  He's right, Olivia is not thinking about him and he should be worried because the C organization knows he was working w/Dante.  Him taunting Lucky was funny.  The line "PCPD raise a glass and kiss my ASS" was classic!!

Glad Nic wasn't on today.  Didn't miss Patrick/Lisa.

Great episode today!!!

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I only caught the last few minutes so I'll be watching SoapNet tonight.  But the final scene....  what ICU hospital room or ANY hospital room has a door that locks?  NONE that I know of and I've seen a lot of hospital rooms.  And Jason's scary face was too funny.

LOVED the scene with Lulu in the shower.  Very well done.  Kudos to JMB!

I'll be back later after GH but from what I've seen it's another great episode.

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 I do not think Lucky has a right to walk away from those kids. He has been there for Jake at least from day one and Cam early on also. The kids do not know Lucky was cheated on and is hurting. That is their daddy. Daddy can put his issues on hold for a day a week or and hour a day and be a father to those boys.
Liz has to explain something to them because Daddy isn't coming around and they wil think it is because of them and I do not think she went overboard to a child that you can only explain things in a kids way for them to understand. I thought she did good by saying Momma did something real bad and daddy is mad and then Cam says " Did you say you were sorry"  That is how kids think, say you're sorry and be forgiven. The grown ups can have all kinds of stuff happen to them and most of them deserve it but the kids should not be put aside or ignored because one is mad.
 
And just why is it ok for fathers to ignore their children on these soaps when they have a bad day or are having problems but mothers are always there and never get to have a temper tantrum like the men and get to ignore family, kids, jobs whatever. 

But this is a soap and not real lfie where these things can harm real children.

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Perkie, I could not agree with your dellusionville analogy any more.  Sonny was so ridiculous in every scene, I could only laugh.  He demanded that Dante forgive him, tried to justify shooting an unarmed cop in cold blodd to Lulu, blamed Olivia yet again, and then goes to the chapel and whines to God.  Dante and Lulu were again the highlight of the show, by saying everything that needed to be said to Sonny, and being the best couple on daytime.  I even liked that Olivia finally stood up to stood up to Sonny and called him on his crap, even though she has yet to deliver the slap that he deserves from her for shooting her son and blaming her.

Johnny was hilarious at Jake's, and offered an extremely astute commentary on the PCPD and the Port Charles legal system.  I am enjoying where they are taking his character, as ling as they don't kill him.

It almost seemes as if Jax got farther with brain damaged Michael in explaining himself than he did with his own wife, which is sad.  I don't undersand why she is saying that Jax kept Dante on the case to frame Sonny for Claudia's murder.  He did that before Claudia died, so he was just helping with the RICO investigation.  I guess murdering your wife is a bigger charge than RICO, since they have completely dropped that as the reason Dante was even investigating Sonny in the first place.  I hope they don't completely drop that and just go after the murder charge, because that is the one thing he is not guilty of.  He already gets off scott free for shooting a cop.  There is ample eveidence on those charges, when he sent Dante to kill that guy and the Franco frame that he wanted could all be bundled together for RICO cahrges.

After that last scene, I have officially put Jason on my hate list.  I always cut him slack because he was brain damaged and a Quartermaine, but him walking into Dante's room, locking the door, and giving him that cold stare like Dante was the wrong party was a turning point for me.  I know he is not going to kill him because of spoilers, but the fact that he told Carly he was going to tie up loose ends and then did that really bothered me.

I also loved Lucky playing hardball with Liz.  He let her know that he was no longer interested in being her safety net.  I think he does still plan to be in the kids lives because he said he would have a lawyer contact her because he couldn't stand to look at her, which was awesome.

This show has been amazing the last few weeks, and I see no signs of it slowing down any time soon, which makes me happy.

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Although I loved the Josselyn, Jason, Morgan, and Sam scene, I hated the Carly and Jason scene.  I hate how Jax is the bad guy when Sonny is the criminal who shot an unarmed cop.  Yes, Jax lied and manipulated to protect his family, but at least he didn't try and kill someone.  And then Sonny asks God to bless him for he has sinned?  I can just picture God thinking "And what else is new".   And I really am making Jason one of my least favorite characters on this show, right along side Carly.  His stone cold look is no longer attractive.

Loved the Lulu crying scene.  Very well done.  Although I agreed with everything she said to Sonny, I still found her yelling at him annoying.  She's always yelling and up in everyone's business.  She should be careful, Sonny might shoot her too just to shut her up since he obviously has no issues with killing unarmed people.

Loved the Liz and Lucky scenes.  They're both losing it.  I thought her scene with Cam was so sad and cute at the same time.  She was trying to get Cam to understand that Lucky not being around was her fault and not his.

Loved the Johnny and Lucky scenes too.  Those two rock.  Let's just throw Dante into the mix and we have a party.  One party I would not be leaving anytime soon.  What Johnny said to Lucky about the PCPD being off duty when they were on duty was so funny.  And Lucky, you really shouldn't be playing with guns while drinking.  Not a good idea.

Oh and ewwww I read this rumor on Wubs that the stupid Jersey Shore crew may be on GH!!  What the heck, whhhhhyyyyyy would GH want them on their show.  Those kids give Jersey a bad name.  I so hope it's not true and they won't be on GH.  It's bad enough that they take over our beloved beaches in the summer.  I don't need to see them on GH too...

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ummm I havent watched yet, but isnt blessed me father for I have sinned the way Catholics start their confessions.  You can fault sonny for lots of things, but it doesnt sound like thats one of them.  ;0)

Watchingallday - I am confused - it sounds like you are saying Jax is a good guy because he didnt kill someone. Just because Sonny is worse, doesnt make Jax good, he could just be less bad. Thats sort of where I am in all of this.  Shooting a cop, esp. one that risked his life to save you and yours twice is worse than horrific, but that doesnt mean that Jax gets a free pass on trying to frame his step-children's father - and yes, I said frame because Jax pushed Dante to focus on the murder (which he knew Sonny wasnt guilty of). Were in not for his actions, Dante would have remained focus on what you pointed out was the meat of the case - the racketeering aspects.

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Jason needs to get away from my Dante and take his freaky "Stone-cold" stare with him.
and what was up with Maxie? She sure got out of that room quickly, knowing that Jason is a KILLER and Dante is an undercover cop who knows too much. Lulu will definitely flip out if she finds out.
Speaking of Lulu, I totally teared up when she was crying, so sad.
I feel like Johnny gets to say all the stuff WE wanna say. About Sonny not paying for his crimes and about the PCPD being inept. Honestly, is there any case that they have actually solved???
I am not 100% behind Jax because I think he took it too far. Knowing Dante was Sonny's son and still pulling in favors to get him back on the case was just too wrong. Pushing him towards the Claudia case while knowing that Michael did it was too risky.  But I would still pick Jax over Sonny because Jax does not SHOOT people when they piss him off LOL.
Honestly, I used to love Sonny and Jason back in the old days, but this whole storyline really makes me wonder what is to like about them except for Sonny's dimples and Jason's blue eyes.

Love love love Josslyn, she is the most beautiful baby ever. Love how she interacts so well with everyone. Most especially, I love to see Sam with a baby.

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EET... You are correct.  I am Catholic, and when you go to confession, the first thing you say is "Bless me Father, for I have sinned."  Then you say how long it's been since your last confession, (WAAAAYYYYYY too long), then you go into your laundry list of sins since then.  Good stuff.

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Just watched couple of things

Lizard - this is going to shock people (and why I think this story might be good for the character) I actually understood what she did today.  Was it delusional in some ways - yeah.  Did she probably say too much to Cam - yeah.  Is this a hell created of her own skanky bad decision making - yep. but all that said I cant fault her for going to Jake's to try and make things better with Lucky nor can I fault her for TRYING to come up with something to say to Cam about why things arent as they should be.  I think Lucky was right that she really needs to find out why she does what she does - I really was glad that Lucky brought up the counseling issue from before where she was already boinking nik and made it clear he cant be the one right now to glue her back together.  What this story comes down to for me is if we are going to get original recipe Liz that has the spine to fix herself and be real with herself and others going forward or are we going to get Lizard 2.0 that is all woes me til someone fixes things for her.  Own up. Change. Grow.  That would be rootable and I am going to wait and see if that happens.  If we get 2.0 I reserve the right to re-evalutate how I saw things today LOL

(PS. I think Lizard also benefits from my new found loathing of all things Brooke Logan.  I JUST started watching BB when SJB went over and WOW - in a little more than a month I think I just might loathe her more that Lizard.  )

Loved all things Lulu, Dante and Coleman.  Giving Maxie a pass....sure she does the wrong thing at times but she tries.  I didnt see any one else stopping by with clothes for Lulu.  Johnny....I love him, but its a little surreal to see a mobster criticizing the PCPD for not busting mobsters. Hypocritical much.  Jax may not shoot people but he is still a jerk - not in the Sonny dog house level but still a jerk.  Love all things Sam. - still want CarSam friendship.   Feel for Carly.  She keeps loving a man even when she doesnt love his actions and I love her maternal loyalty - I think her biggest issue is that she is afraid that staying with Jax is a betrayal of M/M and leaving is a betrayal of Joss.  Would that every mom on daytime loved like that.   Jason is being smart.  he is scaring Dante into silence to avoid having to hurt him. 

 

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Loved Lucky's bar scenes.  JJ is really bringing it!  Loved Johnny and Lucky and loved Coleman as well.

I give Lucky a pass.  It's been like two or three days since he found out about Liz and Nik so the boys aren't going to think he deserted them after just two or three days.  It's not like he saw them every day to begin with.  He just needs a little time to get himself together.  He won't do those boys any good in his present mood or inebriated state.  And he did tell Liz he would have his lawyer call her to set up visitation.  That shows that he still loves the boys but won't be used by Liz anymore.  And I don't think what Liz said to Cam was wrong.  He's in school so I'm guessing he's about 5 or 6 and old enough for the simple explanation she gave him.

Beautiful "family" picture with Sam, Jason and Josslyn.  Enjoyed her "boating lullaby" to Josslyn.  Loved the look on Sam's face when Carly asked her if she would watch both children and Jason kissing her on the head when she said yes.  Loved how she tried talking to Morgan like she does with her sisters.  

Liked that Johnny brought Olivia food and drink but how about a change of clothes?  Of course now that he's upset with her I guess she'll be in the same dress with her son's blood all over it for a few more days.

Loved the Sonny/Dante conversation and everything that Dante said to him.  And Sonny's delusional reasoning and stupid excuses falling on deaf ears.  Loved Lulu tearing in to him and Dante telling her to move over by him as if he could protect her against Sonny from his hospital bed!

Sonny in the chapel is just typical Sonny.  Always looking for absolution so he can continue on with his wicked ways unabated.

I was happy to see Maxie cared enough to bring her friend a change of clothes finally.  I would have thought Carly or Tracy would have done that already or maybe Robin would have brought her some scrubs to change in to after the second day.  But at least the writers thought to send Maxie to the rescue.  I loved Dante telling her to let Maxie help because he couldn't.  And that he wished he could join her in the shower.  So absolutely sweet and wonderful.  I thought Maxie was cute when she started questioning Dante's intentions.  Lulu has become like a sister to her and she feels protective.  Good.  And I LOVED the shower scene.  Very well done.  Kudos to JMB!!!  Lulu and Dante are fast becoming one of my favorite couples!

I thought Jax showing up at Jason's and acting all concerned was laughable.  The man brought it all on himself!

Jason going to the hospital to possibly threaten Dante.... just plain stupid.  Carly was right when she told him it would devastate Morgan and Sonny wouldn't appreciate it and would turn on him.  Jason's scary face was just plain funny and not at all scary.  And I'm sorry but you cannot lock an ICU door or any hospital room door except the bathrooms.  They just don't have locks for the safety of the patient.  I hate when the writers think we're idiots and won't notice stupid details like this.

DZ was awesome in every one of his scenes!!!

Another great GH episode!  They are still on fire and I hope they don't burn out any time soon.  The best soap on daytime tv in my opinion!

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EET -  "I think Lucky was right that she really needs to find out why she does what she does - I really was glad that Lucky brought up the counseling issue from before where she was already boinking nik and made it clear he can't be the one right now to glue her back together.  What this story comes down to for me is if we are going to get original recipe Liz that has the spine to fix herself and be real with herself and others going forward or are we going to get Lizard 2.0 that is all woes me til someone fixes things for her.  Own up. Change. Grow.  That would be rootable and I am going to wait and see if that happens."

"Feel for Carly.  She keeps loving a man even when she doesnt love his actions and I love her maternal loyalty - I think her biggest issue is that she is afraid that staying with Jax is a betrayal of M/M and leaving is a betrayal of Joss.  Would that every mom on daytime loved like that."

Well said.  I totally agree! 
 

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A few things I forgot to mention...  I liked the Jax/Michael talk.  DG was great!  And after he calmed down and listened to Jax's explanation I suspect he will feel a little differently now.  He'll still be mad at Jax but I think he will understand more of why Jax did what he did.  I'm glad that Jax told him the truth this time.  It will be interesting to see if he helps Jax with Carly.

I thought it was weird that in the Sonny/Dante scenes Sonny kept calling Dante by his undercover name Dominic.  He knows he's his son but won't call him by his real name.  Really strange.  Don't know if it was written that way or if MB simply goofed.  He called him Dominic more than once though.  

I liked the Lulu/Olivia scene and what Lulu said to Olivia.  She was right on!  And I liked what Olivia said to Sonny when he tried blaming his actions on her. 

Loved that Lucky told Liz he was nothing but her babysitter and asked her if she had bothered to use protection.  Won't he be in for an unpleasant surprise?

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 I wonder if someone will tell Lulu that her Step mother was a mobster.....
Because we all know that Tracy can't call sonny names she is hypocrite and Lulu using Tracy is dumb ....

I felt bad for Sonny and Dante , that scenes was hard to watch..........

I loved loved loved everything Jason today,
I loved the scenes were Carly is entering his PH  and Morgan knows his motther is in bad shape he asks his uncle Jason to help him....
and I loved the Jarly talk and he tells her to count to 10.
The JaSam Baby scenes was so beautiful , that baby is just cute and Sam was so amazing holding her, I loved the Jason kissing her on her head So cute, even Carly saw that , I WANT MY JASAM FAMILY

I wish Michael would still continue to smack Jax , Jax is putting his father behind bars for a crime Michael did , he knows what Michael feels about Sonny , even Jason got upset with him, BECAUSE  HE NEEDS TO PROTECT MICHAEL and by helping Dante investigate Claudia's death he endanger Michael and he can lead to the chance that Michael will go to prison..
Jason should have done to jax the scary look...    

Ps I don't think ever Jason meant to hurt Dante , he will not hurt Sonny's son Michael Morgan Kris brother , he just want to scare him , and by the looks  Dante is really scared....

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 How much did you love Dante's line when Lulu said she was going to get a shower?  The look on his face!  Perfect!

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FIRST:  LuLu I am so sick of her acting like she is Ms. Perfect.  Did we all forget she killed a man and went on the run and let Jason and Johnny cover it up for her.  Did we all forget that she screwed another persons boyfriend, got pregnant, had an abortion and who did she turn to for help but Sonny.  Was it not too long ago that LuLu was all Sonny is a family friend, and because she is in love with the person Sonny shot, she is anti-Sonny.  Please move her out of that story line or have Sonny to shoot her.

JAX:  Love him dearly, but did all you folks forget his BIG BROTHER JERRY, blew up his hotel, almost killed his then girlfriend Carly, kidnapped Michael and Kristina not too long ago,  Jerry is probably connected to Franco in some way.  Did we all forget he kept him from going to jail.  It is OK for him to be free and not Sonny?  Can someone please say that to him.

JOHNNY:  Is he not a mobster?  What did Sonny do to his sister that she did not deserve, they both knew that if Sonny found out she had something to do with Michael's shooting that she would be taken out?  Johnny knows Sonny did not kill Claudia, and he is just as responsible for her death as Sonny is.  He should have had her kidnapped and shipped off to Italy if he cared that much for her.  She was ruthless and he knows she was.  Can we please move away from this Johnny out to get Sonny.

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So Carly's kids can be near Jason but not his own.  This is what drives me crazy about this show!

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Mayjadjor - I like that Lucky isn't taking anymore of Liz's crap.  At some point he'll need to stop feeling sorry for himself, but I'm glad he didn't hop to when Liz mentioned HER sons.  I think Lucky's trying to find a graceful way to bow out, which I still believe is the smart thing.  When Liz said she didn't know what to tell them, Lucky should have said, "Tell them I love them.  Then tell them about their real fathers."  I understand the other point of view, but Lucky has been conned, used, and duped into taking care of her fatherless children and he's finally woken up.

Sorry I must respectfully disagree with a few things - These are THEIR kids, and sorry but what right does Lucky have to back out of caring and loving for those boys.  Lucky is their REAL father in every sense of the word.  He made a committment to them and it supercedes all else.  I mean no human is ever given forever and for a couple who have been on and off he should have known that before stepping up to the plate and signing on for the long haul.  While I am not sure about Cam, we all know that Lucky is listed as Jake's father and thus can't simply walk away because he got his feelings hurt.

Damn can we SORAS Jake just so i can get him to hate bio and real daddy at the same time.

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ChrisBGHFAN wrote:
So Carly's kids can be near Jason but not his own.  This is what drives me crazy about this show!

Amen!!

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Johnny is my MVP of the episode.  I was howling with laughter when he started talking smack about the PCPD and drank Lucky's beer.

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If my memory is correct.  Jason wanted Sonny to jump bail so the PCPD would THINK he was guilty of Claudia's death, in turn, the PCPD not suspecting Michael.  I would say Jax approach might have been different and off the wall, but putting Sonny behind bars would have accomplished the same thing.  I just think what Jax did was not horrible and considering he has a daughter to worry about now, which was not the case in the past, he has a right to do what he needs to do.

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ITA Ravennite!!

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Raven, I don't get it.  A lot of Liasonites want Lucky to take care of Liz's sons, then on the other hand, want Jason to claim Jake.  You really can't have it both ways.  It sounds like you agree with Liz that Lucky should be her fall back guy, taking care of her sons, as long as their real fathers are not able to.  So what happens if Jason claims Jake?  Lucky's all of a sudden not his father anymore?  And somehow that's less traumatic than Lucky walking away right now because Liz has used him for years?  I say Jason should claim Jake because that's the only way he can justify having a family with Sam, and I do believe that is in their future based on the foreshadowing we saw with Joss yesterday.  Either that or a paternity switch.  No, I don't keep bringing up that possibility to amuse myself, but it's the only way I can see JaSam having a family in the future.  He can't justify being a father to another child while he won't claim Jake, (although Liz doesn't want Jason claiming Jake either).  So, either Jason needs to be a father to Jake or they have to switch the paternity.

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mayjadjor wrote:
I think Lucky's trying to find a graceful way to bow out

I dont' understand why this is such a popular opinion and I wonder if it has more to do with people's dislike of Liz than people actually thinking a man should abandon his children.

Because, despite the lack of DNA, they are his sons.  Jake is legally his and he has been co-parenting him since his birth.  Cam since he was a couple of years old.

So, just like Sonny is Michael's father despite the lack of DNA and Monica is Jason's mother despite the lack of DNA, Lucky is Cake's father despite the lack of DNA.

No one expected Sonny to give up his parental responsibilities whenever he and Carly divorced. 

Monica never gave up mothering and co-parenting Jason despite the many, MANY times Alan cheated on her and they divorced. 

It's no different now, just because Elizabeth is the mother of those children.

He is their father.  He needs to put the bottle down and start co-parenting.

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I will always put my love for Jax above Sonny & most times Jason, but with that said I can understand Carly being mad at him more than others.  She is married to the man and thus you put more trust in that person.  Mind you that both knew going in to this relationship that each had their issues with Sonny but once they married those need to be put aside. 

For me if Jax had done it because of something that Sonny had done recently to him I may have understood it more.  Like if Jax had just found out about Sonny and Carly sleeping together and this was his plan at revenge.  But since they remarried all of the past should be left there. 

Also, using a cop to do something that was already set in motion I have no problem with but knowing that said cop was the man's son was hitting below the belt even for Jax

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Perkie... Sonny legally adopted Michael, so he couldn't walk away from him even if he wanted to, and he doesn't want to.  Not sure about Monica and Jason, but that's the Q way.  Emily wasn't their biological family either, and they treated her like she was.  I'll try to be as clear as possible, because I don't think people are understanding what I'm trying to say.  I believe, as does Lucky, that Liz has used him all these years to take care of her kids because she has one night stands with mobsters who can't be real fathers.  Lucky has been saying over and over that he was just a babysitter while she went around and cheated on him more than once.  Plus, when she was chasing Jason all over PC, she was more than happy to take Lucky's parental responsibilities away from him and run away with Jason and have a family with him.  Lucky was her back up when Jason didn't want her, and he's finally come to his senses.  Yes, it will hurt the boys if he walks away.  But it's Liz's fault, and she should explain to them why.  Lucky got wise to her games and refused to be played for a fool any longer.  Liz conned him into being the father to her children by making promises to him she never intended to keep.  I say that makes any agreement between them null and void.  It will also hurt Lucky to walk away because he loves those boys, but he should be able to make a clean break from Liz now that he found out he's been used, instead of being obligated to her children for the rest of his life.

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Mayjadjor - A lot of Liasonites want Lucky to take care of Liz's sons, then on the other hand, want Jason to claim Jake.  You really can't have it both ways.  It sounds like you agree with Liz that Lucky should be her fall back guy, taking care of her sons, as long as their real fathers are not able to

I only want Jason to claim Jake because it makes no sense that you can be around everybody's kids but your own.  So it makes no sense and is completely out of character for Jason.

I don't see Lucky as a fall back guy I see him as their real father.

So what happens if Jason claims Jake?  Lucky's all of a sudden not his father anymore?  And somehow that's less traumatic than Lucky walking away right now because Liz has used him for years? 

If Jason one day decides he wants to claim Jake then so be it and if written correctly could be a wonderful soapy story.  How do you use someone who has willingly loved those boys no questioned asked.

He can't justify being a father to another child while he won't claim Jake, (although Liz doesn't want Jason claiming Jake either).  So, either Jason needs to be a father to Jake or they have to switch the paternity.

Maybe its just my lifetime of watching soaps but  why is one necessary on the other.  I mean wouldn't it be good soap that Jason decides to father one child but not his other.  I could see some good drama there in the right hands.  I mean honestly I don't see Jason being written to character since the minute he took Sam back so for me nothing surprises me anymore.