General Hospital: Perkie’s Observations



People have got to leave poor Dante alone!

I thought Morgan understood what his father and Jason did for a living. I get that he’s a kid and he just wants everyone to get along and doesn’t want Sonny to go to jail, but he was just so naïve asking Dante to quit being a cop so he can go back to working for Sonny. I was glad Dante told Jason that he would not be going to bat for a mob boss.


Then Carly shows up in Dante’s room and started in with the violins. I don’t know why she wants him to lie for Sonny though. All she has to do is tell him the truth, Michael killed Claudia accidentally and that’s bound to change things for Dante.

I loved the Patrick/Liz scene. It was sweet and well played on both their parts. It’s nice to see someone come to visit her that doesn’t have an agenda. Isn’t it sad that when she asked, “What would you do if Robin cheated on you with your brother?” that my first thought was, “Patrick has a brother?" Seriously, where is Matt these days?

I did like Elizabeth’s hallucination, where Jason, Nikolas and Lucky all apparently have custody of the boys. Interesting that she would daydream that this baby is a boy as well, and did anyone catch dreamNikolas calling him “Stephan”?

The Douchebag of the Day Award is actually a tie. One goes to Nikolas, who doesn’t give a crap or pay attention to the son he already has, but is already drawing up legal papers to cover his butt for this child. The other goes to Sonny, who thoughtfully explains to Morgan that even though his son Dante did the unthinkable and became an icky police officer, he’ll still continue to love him, because that’s what fathers do. I mean, seriously, could either of them be any worse?

Douchebag line of the day:
Nikolas:
“I love Elizabeth and I want her to marry me.”

Of course, what she wants is not factored into that thought.

Is it illegal for Diane to put a witness on the stand who she knows is going to perjure themselves?

79 Responses

  1. Profile photo of maxsmom
    maxsmom

    RE Diane: it’s called subborning perjury and it can get a lawyer disbarred.

    RE Carly: When I was a little girl my mom told me that hate is energy wasted and we should save that energy for people we love.  And when I was a smart mouthed teen, I told her the sixties were over and the hippies had lost. This my long winded way of saying, I am dangerously close to hating Carly and when Jax is done I hope she gets two hours a week of monitored visitation.

    RE Liz/Lucky/Nik: Someone posted Youtube clips on an earlier thread and surprise TC was once an engaging young actor. It’s been so long since he expressed emotion I had forgotten. RH has found her groove in this sl and JJ continues to amaze.

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    Chels725

    yeah Nik was a bigger douchebag than Sonny today. I didn’t think Sonny was so bad explaining things to Morgan. He could’ve said a lot worse things about the situation.

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    BigDede

    I seriously hate Lucky. Liz betrayed him over and over? He acts like he poops gold. I’m sick of him. Luke really pissed me off when he said do you really want to raise another man’s kid.  WHAT! Liz didnt’ ask Lucky to raise the sons she got. Liz doesn’t even take child support from Lucky!  I just hate them now. That’s why I don’t understand Luke barging in telling Nik he better get his grandmother and if she mess with his kids and liz he would hurt her. Now Luke cares about Liz?

    I loved LOVED when Helena said, "You have three children by different daddies, you are riped for welfare"  That was the line of the day. I laughed so hard I cried.

    I also loved that in Liz’s dream she thought of Stefan. I knew there was some reason i loved this girl.  I hated her dream though. Like Lucky would really give Jake to Jason. And Jason saying Liz was wrong Jake is safe he’s always with a guard? Um Liz I know this is your dream but it get right. Jason also thought that him not being around Jake would make Jake safer. 

    Loved when Lucky burst in there ready to shoot Helena.  Now that JJ is back as Lucky, I would love to see if that chip in his head is still working so Helena can make him do her bidding.  That was Lucky’s only good scene.

    Patrick and liz scenes were great.  I just love the Patrick/Robin/Liz friendship. When Liz needed extra money to pay off Lucky’s medical bills () Patrick got her that second job.  I love their friendship.

    DZ needs a break. Let Dante sleep for a day. Give that man a vacation. He’s on everyday.  At least his attack dog was no where to be found.  I hated the Dante/Morgan scenes. They are just trying to portray Sonny as this great father when we all know the reason why Morgan has the attitude he has is because of CarJax.  I hated when Morgan all of a sudden wanted Dante to stop being a cop, one of the good guys, to work for his criminal father. Just two weeks ago Morgan saw that Dante was the good guy and Sonny was the criminal. I can’t believe he would change his beliefs so quickly.  Sick of Carly also.  Let Sonny go to prison. He would just be put in a mental prison hospital since he’s bi-polar.

    Loved Nik saying he loved Liz and wanted to marry her. 

    Now Jason is worried that his son might hate his criminal father? Well get out of the business fool! You were able to do it before for Robin and Michael. Jason stop with the pity party. Glad the ole box of pain isn’t coming out anytime soon.

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    maxsmom

    Btw, I think some people are having trouble with character ages because of actor ages. TC is 37, BH is 33, and JJ is 27 but based on those clips their ages are Nik is 30, Liz is 27, and Lucky is 28.

    bbtw, those clips make Lulu about 16.

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    GHvetfan

    GH is pretty relentless with the repetitive dialog.  I don’t know how many more times I can sit through Sonny’s prattle about how Olivia done him wrong and how he wouldn’t have shot his kid if he knew he was his kid.  If blood is so important to Sonny, why didn’t he allow AJ parental rights? Oy!!

    I guess I would appreciate Luke’s advice to Lucky about backing away and letting Liz do the work in Shadybrook if I didn’t remember how he pushed Laura when she needed help.

    Yet again, Becky Herbst is rocking her scenes.

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    alstonboy4315

    Lucky threatening to blow Helena’s head off in the end was FUNNY……..we all know that Lucky doesn’t have the TESTICULAR FORTITUDE to blow ANYONE’S head off. Besides, anytime a character threatens to kill Helena Cassadine, they automatically lose their credibility. Seriously, is ANYONE ever gonna be able to truly rid Port Charles of Helena???? Doubtful.

    I don’t like the show becoming ALL about Elizabeth. The only characters that I can handle seeing on my screen EVERYDAY are Sonny, Luke and Tracy. And, YES, I am drinking Sonny Corinthos’s Kool-Aid, and it tastes damn good!!

    Morgan, enjoy your last few years of childhood before you end up like Michael, or Jason, or Sonny—-or worse, Jax!!!! UGH!! Who wants to bet that this kid will be an expert marksman before he hits puberty???

    Let’s play the drinking game every time we hear someone mention the name "Claudia". Wouldn’t it be great to be Sarah Brown if she were getting residual checks for every time someone mentions her old character’s name???? Of course, she doesn’t, but if she did, she could probably retire from daytime forever.

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    coolblue

    I loved the Elizabeth/Patrick scenes today, BH and JT did a great job.  After her hallucination it was nice that Patrick showed up and not one of the doofus brothers.  I also enjoyed Elizabeth/Helena.  I thought we were going to get one of Liz’s hallucinations in which she took that robe’s belt and strangled Helena. 

    Yes Sonny and Nikolas are terrible fathers and their dialog scenes today just reinforced that they both only want what they want and they don’t care who they hurt to get it.  Nik knows that he does not love Liz he is just  thinking the baby is his and wants to stake his claim.  Sonny’s explanation to Morgan was just awful.  I had such hope that Morgan would be normal but having him beg Dante to switch careers today was terrible. 

    If we talk about fathers we cannot forget Luke or Jason for that matter.  Luke giving Lucky parenting advice ridiculous considering how he "raised" Lucky and Lulu.  Oh wait he left the parenting to Laura and wanted to be in their lives when it suited his needs.  Why is Jason thinking about how Jake will react to finding out his father is a criminal?  He told Elizabeth time and time again that it was too dangerous.  They got engaged–Michael got shot–he walked away, they planned to go to Italy–Kate got shot–he walked away, Jake got kidnapped–he walked away.  Jason still sees Dante as a threat and still wants him dead even though he is Sonny’s son.  Very hypocritical of the father’s on today’s episode.

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    Bourgeois Nerd

    FLOVED the Patrick/Liz scene.  Stellar acting.

    <nerd alert>Liz’s hallucination totally ripped off looked like the Orb visions on DS9.</nerd altert>

    The fact that everyone pretty much assumes the baby is Nik’s makes me think it’ll turn out to be Lucky’s, because the presumed father is hardly ever the real one on a soap.  Unless they go the DOOL route and make it a pair of twins, each with a different father.  It’s a bit outlandish (though I know it does happen in real life, and this IS a soap, so whatever), but for some reason I’ve always kinda liked it.

    Poor Dante.  Guy can’t get any peace!  So nice to know that Morgan thinks the Mob is a valid career choice, and there’s no problem going from policeman to thug.  Hey, we all know the Mob are the real heroes anyway, and the police and baaaaaaaaaaaaad.

    Helena’s pretty much the mouthpiece of the anti-Liz fans now, right?  I mean, half her dialogue could come from here or any other board/communities where there is… heated debate about her!

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    maxsmom

    Yes when Jason tells the grownup Jake that he always loved him will he add but I loved Michael more?

    Does anyone else find it odd that Morgan but not Michael calls him Uncle Jason? My firstborn is older than Michael but we both refer to my mother’s sister as Aunt so it isn’t an age thing. It’s as if noone wanted the reminder that he is in fact Michael’s uncle.

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    LIASONADDICT

    Loooooved the Patrick & Liz scenes

    I love Liz but that line Helena said about welfare was HIGH-LARIOUS

    Still don’t like the Liz storyline but whatever thay could have sent RH on maternity leave in a much better way

    Liz would never sleep with NIK, Nik would never sleep with Liz let alone want to marry her ….UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I can’t wait until this s/l is over

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    LIASONADDICT

    Loooooved the Patrick & Liz scenes

    I love Liz but that line Helena said about welfare was HIGH-LARIOUS

    Still don’t like the Liz storyline but whatever thay could have sent RH on maternity leave in a much better way

    Liz would never sleep with NIK, Nik would never sleep with Liz let alone want to marry her ….UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I can’t wait until this s/l is over

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    ghaddict

    I have to say I really felt badly for Liz today….that dream sequence was so sad and really well done….RH has really stepped it up with the acting for this storyline so kudos to her….

    It’s really nice to see Sam in something other than black…it’s also really odd to see her and Sam being so cordial….I’ll ALWAYS remember their throwdown when the day Sam moved out of the penthouse….awesome catfight…..

    They really need to stop having Morgan make me cry everyday…..that little guy is such a good actor…I actually loved his scenes with his dad…..

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    selat

    One thing that I wanted to mention, and something that has been going on for at least a month or two (or maybe 3 now) are the close-up handheld cameras from untraditional soap camera angles.

    It seems that the majority of the scenes we all have cited recently (parts of the Lucky meltdown, and today’s Liz/Patrick scene –especially featuring Patrick) as being awesome and amazing scenes have a lot to thank the new cinematography for.  Even more amazing done in the HD format and keeping everyone looking so amazing.

    Honestly it seems like the Ellen Wheeler GL style, just done right.

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    laduke19

    I love Helena.  I love that she is unapologetically evil.  I love that she doesn’t feel the need to give some sob story about her terrible childhood to explain away the bad things that she does.  She’s gotten some great lines in too.  I hope she sticks around for a while.  GH really needs a villain like her around.

    I’m glad that Patrick went to visit Liz, but he was a big ol’ hypocrite when he said he thinks he would try to be fair and not get angry if Robin cheated on him with Matt.  If I remember correctly, Patrick was pissed when he thought Robin slept with that cute guy from the bar in Rochester (I wouldn’t mind seeing him again) when she had PPDand called her out in front of everyone at the hospital.  If Robin cheated on him with Matt, he would throw the hissy fit to end all hissy fits and probably run and tell everyone about it like he told everyone that Robin had PPD.

    Poor Dante.  He just can’t get any peace and quiet, can he?  And now Morgan is pleading with him too?  And count me in as confused about whether Morgan knows about Sonny’s business.  And Carly was just being Carly when she was trying to convince Dante not to testify.  She’s always been a mob moll and she always will be.  I just wish GH would let her go back to the schemer she was in the early days instead of this watered down earth mother version we get now.

    Trying to choose who is douchier between Nik and Sonny is an almost impossible decision.  It’s like GH’s version of Sophie’s choice.

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    CarlyCfan

    Carly is wrong but at least she’s not sitting on the couch of that ugly yellow house anymore. This is closer  to my Carly, she has a plan it’s probably going to fail lol but thank god she was HERSELF, she was scheming, she was threatening and isn’t apologetic about how much of a good lier she is, take that Jax!! Haters gonna hate but i’m thrilled that my Carlybabes Corinthos is emerging after being watered down so she could be "good enough" for Jax.

    I wish i was interested in Liz dramas but Rebecca H. isn’t doing it for me.

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    rebecca

    Today Morgan sounded like a total IDIOT! I wish Kristinia would set him straight on who their loser of a father REALLY is. Then he would HATE Sonny the way she & Dante do!
    D.Z is the only reason the show did not suck today. If he was not on it would have!

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    KMRDaytime

    General Hospital does tend to draw out storylines too long but in the case of Helena tormenting Liz I think they missed a great opportunity.  Wouldn’t it have been cool if Liz told Lucky and Nick that Helena was making threats to her but when they investigate there is no sign of Helena.  They would be totally convinced that Liz has lost it and she would even begin to doubt her own sanity — then when she has almost really lost it, Helena could have been discovered. 

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    KMRDaytime

    General Hospital does tend to draw out storylines too long but in the case of Helena tormenting Liz I think they missed a great opportunity.  Wouldn’t it have been cool if Liz told Lucky and Nick that Helena was making threats to her but when they investigate there is no sign of Helena.  They would be totally convinced that Liz has lost it and she would even begin to doubt her own sanity — then when she has almost really lost it, Helena could have been discovered. 

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    Perkie

    I wonder though, if Carly told Dante the truth, that Michael is the one that killed Claudia, Dante would realize that Sonny wont’ go to prison for that crime, since he didn’t commit it.  Would Dante then come forward and admit that Sonny shot him, in order to get him in jail that way.

    I wonder if that’s why Carly won’t tell Dante the truth, because she knows that Sonny might be able to get off on the Claudia thing and will never be charged for the Dante thing.

    It might actually be in Sonny and Micheal’s best interest if Carly doesn’t admit the truth to Dante. 

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    Ravennite613

    Damn everyone pointed out my two biggest problems with yesterdays show.

    1.  The dream sequence that mentioned "Jake was safe and Liz was wrong"  Uhmm Jase my love if he was safe he wouldn’t need bodyguards.

    2.  Morgan while I loved earlier this week peeved me with him telling Dante to change his career.  Uhmmm why can’t your Dad change his career for HIS kids for once, he says he loves them so much well show them how much.

    I am loving everything Liz, and if getting her out of Jason’s arms is the price I have to pay then I am ok with it.  She is rocking these scenes for me, and I found myself in tears when I watch her this week.

    Patrick and Liz’ scenes were beyond perfect, I felt a connection of true friendship and for once GH honored a past instead of forgot it. 

    Helena you screwy old bat – I FLOVE you so much, words do not express the happy I get when you are on my screen. 

    While I think the paternity of Baby Weber is pretty much set..the over the top foreshadowing is what is making me hope that it is twins.

    I really wanted Sam to smack Jason upside the head, and say "Make up your mind – Do you want Jake or not"  I cannot believe this woman is saddled with this storyline…Any day now Guza can we find her father or something more interesting than packing the Valentine Day decorations

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    tml

    This show is getting tired…why do I have to see the same repetitive lines day after day??? WHY?  You wanna know when this show was good?  When the writer’s strike happened and Gavin whathisname on the staff was writing it…the show was a cliffhanger EVERYDAY!

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    Perkie

    I agree that it’s in Carly’s best interest to tell Dante the truth, but does Carly realize that it’s in her best interest.  She’s still trying to protect Michael and Sonny at the same time.

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    sassysdreams

    [quote=Perkie]I wonder though, if Carly told Dante the truth, that Michael is the one that killed Claudia, Dante would realize that Sonny wont’ go to prison for that crime, since he didn’t commit it.  Would Dante then come forward and admit that Sonny shot him, in order to get him in jail that way.

    I wonder if that’s why Carly won’t tell Dante the truth, because she knows that Sonny might be able to get off on the Claudia thing and will never be charged for the Dante thing.

    It might actually be in Sonny and Micheal’s best interest if Carly doesn’t admit the truth to Dante. [/quote]

    Perkie I don’t agree with your version.  If Carly says nothing and Sonny manages to get off for killing Claudia then Dante could still come forward and say Sonny shot me.  So either way that door isn’t permanently closed. 

    If Carly tells Dante the truth he might be able to help and I don’t think he will change his mind on his shooting himself story.  I think he has too much pride and he’s too embarrassed that he went to Sonny’s unarmed and alone to change his story in my opinion.  If he knew the truth and by helping Michael it set Sonny free he could still continue to go after him for RICCO charges which was the original reason he came to town and the best way to bring Sonny and his entire organization down instead of just Sonny. 

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    sassysdreams

    [quote=Perkie]I agree that it’s in Carly’s best interest to tell Dante the truth, but does Carly realize that it’s in her best interest.  She’s still trying to protect Michael and Sonny at the same time.

    [/quote]

    Apparently she hasn’t figured it out which is a shame because it could bring a quick end to all this nonsense and Michael could hopefully get some help, Morgan could stop crying and Sonny and Jason could do what they do best, run their business while trying to hide everything from the cops and the FEDS. 

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    Perkie

    The other thing about Calry that bugged me yesterday is that she walked in on her high horse, how dare Dante use his friendship with MOrgan to get to Sonny,  I so wanted Dante to say to her
     -remember when I got a car to the kidney, saving Morgan’s life?
    -remember when I almost got shot saving SOnny’ life against JOey Limbo?
    -remember how I got a bullet to the chest for my troubles.
    NOw get the heck out of my room and stop wanking about lies, you lying liar!!!

    Oh, and when you’re telling Sam that you’ll lie to protect your family on the witness stand, remember that Jax lies on to protect his family too.

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    Perkie

    sassydreams wrote: while trying to hide everything from the cops and the FEDS. 

    Do they actually hide anything or is everyone too inept to catch them with thier hands in the cookie jar.  It seems as though everyone knows what SaSon does, so it’s hard to understand why it’s so hard to "catch them". 

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    CarlyCfan

    Perkie But Carly’s lies aren’t hurting anybody she cares about, while Jax trying to put Sonny in jail actually hurted the family no matter how good his intentions suppodsly are.

    I’m just happy my Carly isn’t sitting on a couch anymore lol.

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    rebecca

    If they had Carly tell the truth then Dante would do the right thing but i think TIIC had him lie about Sonny shooting him because BOB GUZA CANNOT WRITE and that is the only way he could think of to get Sonny out of this.Also TIIC can’t have Dante being smarter the Sonny & Jason because then people might not want to watch them anymore. You know THEY CAN"T HAVE THAT!!!!!

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    TC irene

    I guess instead of bringing Dante condoms for Valentine’s Day Lulu should have brought him a gun and lock for his door !!!  Does this hospital even pretend to observe any vistor hours  or rules.

    He is a cop trying to bring down a criminal operation and has thus far been visited by every member of said organization against his will not to mention his pushy justice obstructing mom.  Hey Mac or Agent Raynor how about a guard for poor Dante’s door just until he is well enough to defend himself. when Lulu steps out for air. 

    Oh Helena !!!  Did she call Liz a welfare Mom and her children urchins ? That woman is a fire breathing dragon !!!! LOL   Looking forward to her scenes with JJ.

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    Teach19

    Douchebag line of the day:
    Nikolas:
    “I love Elizabeth and I want her to marry me.”

    Of course, what she wants is not factored into that thought.

    Perkie,
    Guza hasn’t written what Liz has wanted for a long time.   She wanted Jason and NOOOO his life was too dangerous!!!!  I think tptb are not sure what the character wants!!  At least that is what they want us to believe.

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    Mobb Ish

    Why are you making Dante this big hero when he’s been this BIG liar since he stepped foot in town? He saved Morgan’s life because that’s what people do when you see a child in danger! (I’m sure Jerry Jax & Franco would’ve done that given the chance…They are Faaaar from heroes!) He "saved" Sonny from getting shot, only to save himself from getting shot! Jason, Max & Milo were all there and had Dante not been, one of them would have did it!
    Maybe where you all come from the "cops" are the end all be all of "good" in life, but where I’m from they are just as crooked as the criminals!
      I understand why he’s being heralded but really what has he done to make him such a stand up guy? He’s been using these kids, Sonny & Jason’s loyaly and trust, and putting LuLu in the middle of something she wanted to tell on him everyday until he got shot! That to me is not upstanding. Now go and say he’s just doing his job, and I’ll tell you that that is exactly what Sonny did when he shot him. His job is to arrest criminals, Sonny’s is to kill people who pose threats to his empire.  Different job, different way of life, but the same results!
    Btw Sonny is a good father. The life he livesusually lead to bad things happening to his family, but when it’s time to be a dad he’s on point.  If he wasn’t his kids would hate him! The only one that has a problem is Kris and that’s because her mother is this self-absorbing, self-righteous, so-called goodie two shoes, yet all she dates are criminals! This thing with Mac won’t last because he’s not interesting enough, his life is as boring as hers and that’s a recipe for disaster.  I hate Jax and I wish everyone would stop making excuses for this guy! I wish it was him that Sonny shot!

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    samrocks

    [quote=Perkie]Oh, and when you’re telling Sam that you’ll lie to protect your family on the witness stand, remember that Jax lies on to protect his family too.
    [/quote]

    Ahhh…Perkie, it looks like *someone* read my post from Wednesday’s thread.  Since I’m still alive, I can only assume EET hasn’t come across it yet, LOL.

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    samrocks
    I’m glad that Patrick went to visit Liz, but he was a big ol’ hypocrite when he said he thinks he would try to be fair and not get angry if Robin cheated on him with Matt. 

    I completely disagree with this comment.  Patrick is LIz’s friend, and his friend is going through a rough time right now, so he is trying to be supportive so that she can focus on getting better.  If it were me in Shadybrook, and I asked my friend Patrick that question, and he replied, "I would call you out for the lying, manipulative ho-bag that you are," I’m pretty sure that would only make matters worse.

    It’s not like he said he would welcome Robin back with open arms – no questions asked.  He said he would try to be fair, and I think that was appropriate given that he was talking to someone who had recently checked herself into a mental health facility over her recent behavior.

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    EricasEvilTwin

    Samrocks I did read your post and I didnt disagree….I think Carly is in a lousy position right now and she is making some mistakes along the way.  I know some equate her lying with Jax’s, but thats where I do make a distinction….Jax lied TO his family, Carly is lying to others FOR her family.  It was like when Lizard was preggers with Jake – I didnt care that she and Jason lied to robin or patrick or the world in general, but I thought it was terrible that they didnt own up with Sam, Lucky, Monica and Audrey since they were directly affected/involved.  Carly isnt lying to the boys or to Jax or even to her extended family…she is saying that she will lie when the time comes.  I also think that while she wants very much to protect Sonny her main concern here is Michael.  I think she hates that Sonny is in a pickle because he was trying to protect their son and that it was her husband that framed him for the crime.

    Since I am posting, I guess I might also take the controversial stand of defending nik a bit.  yes, I think he is the worst father on the canvas.  Yes, I think he was a total douchebag to his brother.  BUT….when the ickyNiz affair started Nik had been reeling for the better part of a year….he lost Em, then he had a brain tumor, then he fell for Em’s twin only to find out that she was running a con.  Lizard said on many an occassion that he was making rash decisions and acting out from pain BEFORE she slept with him.   I dont know, maybe its just me, but I wouldnt have let a guy I cared about make a decision that would permanently screw up his life (double crossing his brother) if I had even a tiny shred of a doubt about where his mindset was at that moment.  But then again, she slept with Jason knowing he had been drinking and was distraught over Sam.

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    EricasEvilTwin

    Alston boy I forgot to add, I am trying to plow through the "Elizabeth hour" only because we are going to hopefully get a nice break from the character when she goes on what I can only hope is a nice long maternity leave.  I hope that when she returns it will be to the backburner for a bit.

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    Perkie

    Oh Mobb Ish, where to begin, where to begin.  My head actually hurt from reading that post, so my only comment will be on this:

    Sonny’s is to kill people who pose threats to his empire.

    I didn’t realize that was an actual profession.  Why didn’t my guidance counselor steer me in that direction in high school?

    EET:  Jax lying TO his family is worst than Carly lying TO the criminal court system??

    And I have a serious problem with everyone who wants to blame Jax for Sonny being arrested for Claudia’s murder.  Dante was already believing that Sonny did the killing and was aiming his investigation there.  Jax just didn’t tell him the truth.  He didn’t set up Sonny to take the fall. 

    I’m not saying Jax’ hands are clean or I approve of his methods but I don’t understand why he’s suddenly the bad guy in all of this when Sonny is the career criminal. 

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    Ravennite613

    I would have posted sooner but my head exploded after reading Mobb Ish’ post.

    Sonny’s is to kill people who pose threats to his empire.

    Really!?!?!? So what the heck has Jason been doing all these years.  

    Btw Sonny is a good father.

    On what planet..does Sonny love his kids…YES – but doesn’t make him a good father.  A good father would not tell his son good job axing your step-mommy.  A good  daddy would not bring a child into his world….EVAH

    I’ve lived on both sides of this life..and let me tell you it is not a fun way to live. 

    What makes Dante the good guy to me is that he was doing his job and has not stopped being someone who wants the bad mobster to go to jail.  He was not on the take and he was honest with Looloo when she found out.  

    Different Topic – I wonder would Carly and Sonny lie for Sam like she is going to do.  I left Jason out because I know he would

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    samrocks
    I wonder would Carly and Sonny lie for Sam like she is going to do.

    Um, that’s a negative, Ghostwriter, LOL.  Sonny was willing to put his own family at risk AND break the heart of one of his great loves (Kate) to marry Claudia, so "selfless" is not a word in Sonny’s vocabulary.  As for Carly, I don’t know.  She is very deferential to Jason, so I can imagine that there is at least one scenario where she would.

    Of course, keep in mind that Sam isn’t doing this for Sonny OR Carly.  To her, this is about keeping MICHAEL safe.  Like Jax, Sam knew that Jason’s "family" was part of the package, and although she wouldn’t necessarily go above and beyond for Sonny or Carly, she KNOWS that Jason would move heaven and earth for Michael.

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    Mobb Ish

    @Perkie: hahaha…That was my intentions!  I never said Sonny’s job was legal, but this is his job, no doubt about that…A drug dealers job is to sell drugs, as is a car salesman job is to sell cars.  Everybody that lives on the other side of the law is not a bad person.  Now if he was pushing drugs into PC, or just killing people for looking at him weird then I’d have a problem with his job.  He only has issues with other mobsters that come into PC and shake up the city.  He’s no Angel not even close, but he’s not the Devil either. 

    @ Reavennite: as a matter of fact he’s the Boss so it’s his job to deligate that job to someone else, most notably Jason! hahaha!  So because Sonny is proud of his son for defending the life of his mother and newborn sister he’s a bad dad? If your kid came home and you were being beaten or something worse and your child defended you, accidentally killing your attacker, would you tell him that he should have left you there to die?  Notta chance!

    Seriously, I understand why people feel like they do about Sonny, either you love him or hate him!  I enjoy the back and forth that comes with this show, and no other show have as many posts as GH, so they must be doing something right…

     I like Dante, I think he’s probably the most talented actor on Daytime TV as of now, but I know how it feels to be the son of a gangster father,  and a church going mother.  You have to balance the good qualities of both, yet have enough edge and street smarts to make it out in the real world.

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    I forgot one thing – If Sonny was such a good father…Why did he dive for Kate and not Mikey?

    This was a reaction/reflex thing so you grab the closest thing to you and that was Kate.  Mikey was almost all the way on the otherside of the warehouse if I’m not mistaken!

    Remember this about that whole shooting incident: the bullet ricocheted and this is the only reason that Mikey got hit.  All this while he was trying to get out of the Mobb for his KIDS! Now if he wasn’t trying to turn a new leaf, this would have NEVER happened because he would have had Jason scope out the warehouse and he of course would’ve found Devlin and shot him where he stood. Besides that Max & Milo would’ve been right by his side!

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    All this while he was trying to get out of the Mobb for his KIDS!

    That’s not accurate.  Sonny was only *saying* he was out of the mob, and it had NOTHING to do with his kids, and EVERYTHING to do with Kate.  It’s pretty hard to get out of the mob when you’re WORKING WITH A MOBSTER.  So don’t act like poor Sonny was a victim here.

    And I disagree about grabbing the one closest to you.  Do you really expect me to believe that, had Milo been where Kate stood, Sonny would have dove to protect him?  I call b.s. on that. 

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    Mobb Ish

    Oh Samrocks, we finally disagree! LOL! Sonny was no victim, but he was indeed trying to leave the Mob. It had alot to do with Kate, yes but his kids were his number 1 reason because Michael had just shot Kate and ran away. Right?

    It’s Milo’s job to protect Sonny so no he wouldn’t have grabbed Milo but I’m sure he would have yelled to him to watch out! LOL! Once again, Michael was nowhere near where Sonny & Kate were standing! There’s was no way he could have gotten to Michael in time anyway….

    FaisonFanInTexas, I would shoot my Fiance to save my child if I had too! LOL!
     

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    GHvetfan

    I love Dante but I am so afraid they will overuse him.  They do this all of the time and it drives me insane.  I am going to find myself rocking in a chair right next to Liz.  I think it is because the odds of these writers writing well for one character everyday is so slim.  The more they use Dante, the less likely they will write him well.  Does that make sense?  I liked Olivia and Kate at first and then they screwed them up by over exposing them.  They did it with Lulu as well. I think that is one of the reasons why Sonny and Jason bug me too.  I like my soaps as ensembles and not with a clear star.  I feel like Dante and Lulu need to be saved from the love of the writers.

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    sassysdreams

    FFIT –  Best laugh of the day!

    With all the ex mobsters in our group pretty soon you won’t be able to say anything here and get away with it!    

    I don’t know about all the others but my daddy always taught me to keep my mouth shut about stuff like that!  And that’s all I’m gonna say on this subject!!!  

     

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    sassy

    I’m scared to post…….

    My daddy was an  award winning musician and a cop………

    I am TOTALLY screwed! LOL

    Do ya think they will know it’s ME if I used the "Joe Cool" smiley?…

    Incognito…..
     

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    FaisonFanInTexas

    sassy

    I’m scared to post…….

    My daddy was an  award winning musician and a cop………

    I am TOTALLY screwed! LOL

    Do ya think they will know it’s ME if I used the "Joe Cool" smiley?…

    Incognito…..
     

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    I felt bad for Dante.  He can’t seem to catch a break from his new family.  But I also felt really bad for Morgan.  I don’t think he really comprehends what his dad and Jason do for a living and I think he just wants to find a way to get everyone back together the way it was before Dante got shot.  He just wants Dante, Jason and Sonny to go back to being pals and his mom and Jax to be back together as a couple.  I get that.  His whole world is falling apart around him and in his mind he just wants everyone to get along and be happy and for his entire family to be back together.  If only the world was as simple as it is in a 12 year old’s mind!  And bravo to AR!

    I do have to say that I’m more impressed with DZ every time I see him.  More and more his facial expressions actually remind me of Sonny and I’m not finding it difficult to believe they are father and son.  Excellent acting on DZ’s part!

    I thought RH did well today but I still have zero sympathy for Liz.  I enjoyed the Luke/Lucky talk and thought he gave Lucky solid advice.  Why should Lucky raise THREE children by THREE different fathers if NONE of them are his?  Nik is still a prick and TC needs to go home!  He sleep walks through all his scenes.  I thought Patrick was a total hypocrite!  He would tear Robin to shreds if she slept with Matt and then he would dump both her and Matt.  I absolutely loved Lucky pulling a gun on Helena!  For me that was the highlight of the show today!!!

    Loved seeing Sam in something other than black and I thought her packing up the Valentine’s decorations for next year’s holiday was sweet.  I find Jason’s concern about Jake’s feelings odd.  If you really don’t want your son to hate you or follow in your footsteps than change careers. 

    Carly was just being Carly but why doesn’t she realize that if she just told Dante the truth he might actually be willing to help?  Sonny blaming Olivia for his current situation is just Sonny being the selfish bastard that Sonny is.  Selfish and delusional, great attributes for a mob boss I guess.

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    Perkie- yes I think I would be madder if my spouse lied to ME over and over and over again than I would be if my spouse lied to mac.  Carly didnt stand before God hand and hand with the criminal justice system asking to be blessed and bound together for life, but she did do exactly that with Jax. 

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    sassysdreams

    FFIT – Somehow I don’t think the sunglasses will help!  LOL

    My daddy was a renowned criminal defense attorney during the golden years in Miami Beach……….

    Oh the stories I could tell you.  The GH writers could learn a lot!  But I promised my daddy that my lips would remain sealed and so they will.

    But I did have a glorious childhood!!! 

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    And Sonny four times but she only seems to honor those promises.

    She also promised for better or for worse but she cut and run lickity split.  What ever happened to hanging around and talking things through for the kids and for the marriage?   Why bother getting married if you are going to leave at the drop of a hat?

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    GHvetfan

    Sassy -
    You are certainly correct.  I just wish they would allow these characters to do the unexpected and deal with the issue instead of running to the ex or hooking up with someone else.  I know it will never happen with Carly but I can dream.

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    Perkie

    Mobb ish wrote:  drug dealers job is to sell drugs, as is a car salesman job is to sell cars

    Drug dealing is not a job, it’s what losers do when they’re too stupid to get a real job.  I’m pretty sure most car salesmen would be insulted to be lumped in with drug dealers.

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    Perkie

    EET wrote: Carly didnt stand before God hand and hand with the criminal justice system asking to be blessed and bound together for life,

    No, but I’m pretty sure if she takes the stand she’s going to put her hand on a bible and swear to tell the truth and nothing but the truth.

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    Ravennite613

    FFIT – You had me rolling

    I was a lil mob princess..knew what a made man was before I could walk.  Bio grandad was shot execution style.  Uncles were cops.  It was always fun to have family functions and there was always a mysterious van that was parked outside your home.  I swore for years the neighbors owned a blue van because it was always parked across the street from our home.

    When my grandfather passed away we would wave to the men in the blue van and talk into the flowers.  When my Dad passed away we got a fruit basket that said "Get Well Soon" all I could think was could you imagine the poor guy in the hospital that got the basket that said "Rest in Peace" 

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    sassysdreams

    [quote=GHvetfan]Sassy -
    You are certainly correct.  I just wish they would allow these characters to do the unexpected and deal with the issue instead of running to the ex or hooking up with someone else.  I know it will never happen with Carly but I can dream.[/quote]

    I’m dreaming right along with you!

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    sassysdreams

    [quote=Perkie]EET wrote: Carly didnt stand before God hand and hand with the criminal justice system asking to be blessed and bound together for life,

    No, but I’m pretty sure if she takes the stand she’s going to put her hand on a bible and swear to tell the truth and nothing but the truth.[/quote]

    Actually Perkie they have you raise your hand and swear to tell the truth but they don’t really use a bible in court anymore.

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    FaisonFanInTexas

    He used to crack me the hell up because he would complain about my ma watching the ABC soaps, but since he always worked nights he had to watch them.

    HE was the one always shouting at the TV at the characters!  But he didn’t CARE about them…LOL 

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