General Hospital Spoilers!




Here’s the Scoop!

The abuse storyline will continue parallel to Sonny’s trial. There are a few notes left to play on what has so far been a pretty well written and phenomenally acted story. Maurice Benard, Nancy Lee Grahn and Lexi Ainsworth have all turned in top notch performances this week! I know there are some of you that are having a real problem with Kristina labeling Ethan as her attacker and while I see your point, it’s honestly not all that far off base from what happens in a real life abuse situation. Often, the victim protects their abuser even if it means lashing out at family, friends and yes even making someone else look like they’re to blame. Granted, I still see why fans are upset that Ethan is taking the heat but Kristina sort of has a point, doesn’t she? Sonny is sure to bump off whoever is to blame and Ethan, being Luke’s son, stands a better chance than Kiefer. I’m not making excuses, trust me; I’m just saying that I get it.

Luke vs. Sonny… How much, will see? Initially we thought it wouldn’t be too much since Sonny has his trial to worry about but this part of the storyline may be too good to pass up. Luke and Sonny will have their “face off” over who’s telling the truth and which of their kids is the liar. Sonny does not take it kindly when Luke suggests that Kristina is lying about who really attacked her.

Speaking of Luke… he returns to Port Chuck in time to counsel Ethan about the situation with Kristina. Luke advises Ethan to stay put and prove he wasn’t the one who raised a fist to Kristina. Does Lulu believe Ethan’s story or does she think he’s capable of violence against a woman just like their father? Will Lulu tell Ethan about Luke raping her mother?

I already mentioned that Ethan violates the restraining order… He goes back to the scene of the crime to try and get Kristina to tell the truth. Sam arrives on scene and calls the police to have Ethan arrested. Ethan won’t be Krissy’s only visitor. Luke and Carly both drop by. Carly has some questions and Luke wants her to tell the truth.

Carly, Carly, Carly… She tells Jason she thinks Kristina is telling stories. Is Carly the one who figures out it was Kiefer who beat the crap out of K? Carly takes a trip to the island to see Michael and tells him that Kristina was assaulted. Is this when Michael says he knows who did it?

Jason and Lucky… Seriously Jason, just become a cop. You pretty much are one without the badge. Jason shares his doubts with Lucky who goes to question Kristina again. And again I ask, isn’t this all a big conflict of interest for Detective Spencer? His brother is the one accused.

Not pressing charges… Yep, Kristina is not going to press charges against Ethan! As a minor though, can’t Alexis press charges? Well here’s how it looks like they’ll get around that one. Alexis and Sam are SPOILED to talk about how grueling a trial will be on Kristina who has already said she doesn’t want to press charges and go through all that. Does Alexis concede to her daughter’s wishes? It looks like that is happening as Sonny is enraged when he finds out that Ethan will walk free. Sonny needs to pay attention to his surroundings though as he threatens Ethan’s life right in front of Prosecutor Claire. Who else will not be happy about K’s choice to not press charges? Kiefer. Let’s see how mad the beater boyfriend gets over this one.

Just Do It Already… OMG, can these two just have sex already? Apparently Lulu and Dante are interrupted yet again when he is called to court to testify at Sonny’s trial. Seriously? Enough already! Will Claire get Dante to name Michael as a witness on the stand?

Brook Lynn Ashton Returns! We’ve been hearing about the Quartermaine re-build. Guza has even said that he doesn’t feel right when he’s not writing for the Q’s yet he’s the one that killed most of them off. We have the new Ward girls coming soon, Skye returning and now Brook coming back for May Sweeps in a recurring role. I said the Q resurgence needed some familiar faces attached to it but I was thinking more along the lines of Scott Clifton or perhaps Wally Kurth. Will this do? Brook Lynn sure will!

Paternity… That second paternity test Nikolas had done, will he sit on the truth? RUMOR has it he will. Tsk, tsk Nikolas. You didn’t like it very much when someone lied about your child to you.

RANDOM and CRAZY… Georgie visits Maxie and TPTB realize they screwed up BIG TIME by killing her off. Oh sorry, that’s in my dream sequence. Will Johnny be a good witness for the prosecution? Who’s Conan? Sonny has an outburst in the courtroom. Will Kristina be a witness to it? Just how close is Claire to the truth? How long before Dante knows? Is Kiefer not long for Port Charles? There’s a RUMOR out there that he does go down but it’s not a mobster who takes him out.

53 Responses

  1. Avatar of Jenba
    Jenba

    Hey Regan, thanks for the spoilers. I am so with you on Lante – just let them DO IT already, or as Dante likes to say, let them get together, lol. I feel like at this rate it’ll be May sweeps before it happens and my heart can’t take any more interruptions!

    As for Kristina – the story has been really well acted (the actor that plays Kiefer has been terrific too) but I’d be a lot more forgiving of Krissy naming the wrong guy if she hadn’t also let her brother hang in the wind on the Claudia mo-down. They have made her a girl who doesn’t take responsibility well.

  2. Avatar of blondie102279
    blondie102279

    In reference to your first paragraph about the abuse storyline, I totally get it to as far as Kristina putting the blame on Ethan.  I don’t like it, but you’re right in that abuse victims tend to protect their abusers.  Kristina is downright scared of Kiefer right now.  She’s afraid of what he’ll do if she tells the truth.

  3. Avatar of Regan Cellura
    Regan Cellura

    Yep! That plays into it as well. I know there is this outrage over her lies and I’m not saying I don’t understand it, I’m just saying the writers are pretty much on point. I rarely praise them, you all know that, however in this storyline, they are doing a darn good job.

  4. Avatar of Regan Cellura
    Regan Cellura

    I’m trying to keep the whole running down Claudia thing separate from her being abused. I get she failed to take responsibility for that BUT for me, this is something that is happening to her, not something she caused.

  5. Avatar of keanna
    keanna

    As always thanks for the spoilers, Regan!!!!

    I agree that the abuse storyline is being well-acted all around, I still don’t excuse Kristina for blaming Ethan, she wants to protect Keifer, fine that’s her choice, but you still don’t put an innocent man’s name in it. And you are right Regan, since Kristina is a minor, Alexis can press charges, but it doesn’t look like it is going to happen. I just hope the truth comes out before it’s too late.

    I also agree on Lante, just let them do it already, I can’t take the interruptions anymore either.

    I am glad AL is coming back as Brook Lynn, but I also agree bring back Scott Clifton as Dillon, (if there’s room), Wally Kurth has a big storyline going on Days right now, but I would love for him to come back as Ned, bring back Stuart Damon as Alan, he just started on Days, too and bring back Justus as well.

    I can’t believe Nic is going to hide the truth from Lucky, oh wait yes I can.

    As for Keifer we will see what happens I have read and heard a lot of scenarios as well.

  6. Avatar of alstonboy4315
    alstonboy4315

    Yeah, this story is all shades of crazy!!! I wanna have sympathy for Kristina, but she keeps making all the wrong moves, so it makes it kinda hard!!!! Also, nobody else seems to want to look for the truth, and they just wanna tar and feather an innocent man. This story is so complex, and easily the most powerful story on daytime television right now!! Gotta hand it to Guza, he has done a good job with this one!!!

  7. Avatar of crown1231
    crown1231

    it would be different if when she and keifer were talking about why she covered for him, she had actually said she pointed the finger at ethan because of luke’s friendship with her dad and she know sonny wouldn’t luke’s kid. but the writers skipped that line or maybe its on the editing room floor.

  8. Avatar of alstonboy4315
    alstonboy4315

    Kristina will never go to jail for lying. When the truth comes out, Ethan and Luke and everyone in town will have so much sympathy for her, for the fact that she was beaten AT ALL, and they will easily forgive her for her actions. Don’t forget, this show rarely makes people pay for their crimes.

  9. Avatar of tml
    tml

    Soooooo, the only way this is going to pay off for me is when the truth finally does come out…..Ethan NEVER forgives Kristina and stays away from her forever….Lord knows I would.

  10. Avatar of troymcclure
    troymcclure

    Regan I agree with you regarding the abuse storyline.  I loe it, its powerful and extremely well acted.  (CA deserves a shout out as well, he probably has the most difficult role and he is doing a bang up job giving some depth to Kiefer)
    As for the whole Ethan situation, sure it sucks but at the same time it’s gripping drama and it still can’t hate Kristina for it. no way no how.

    Michae needs to find out about Kristina like yesterday.  I don’t want Kiefer killed, the only scenario I could accept would be Kristina killing him in self defense or Kiefer commitimg suicide.  I think having someoe else kill him as punishment would send the wrong message to girls watching who might find themselves in a similar situation.

  11. Avatar of Regan Cellura
    Regan Cellura

    Yes Christian Alexander has been great as well! When I have more concrete info on what happens to Kiefer, I’ll tell ya. Right now, they’re just RUMORS but the ending SEEMS to be his ending.

  12. Avatar of The_Moustache
    The_Moustache

    the only good way for this story to end and for Ethan to get rid of his non-abuser reputation, is for him to be the one that rescues Kristina from Kiefer!

    cause y’all know he is gonna beat her again!

  13. Avatar of voodoogrrll
    voodoogrrll

     Thanks for the spoilers!

    I used to volunteer at a shelter for battered women and trust me the desire to protect the attacker is stronger than you would imagine. There hadn’t been much to praise GH writers for in the recent past but they have done excellent work with this storyline, especially if you look back and see how they have built the story.

    I agree the incessant interruptions of Dante and Lulu are getting old…just do it already.


  14. Avatar of Analiza
    Analiza

    [quote=GH LOVER] I am for one don’t want Kiefer to die , I want him to go to prison or something else, Not to die…..[/quote]

    I don’t want to agree because there would be something satisfying about seeing an abuser "get his," but Kiefer is still very young and CA has done such a great job in what must be a very difficult role that I would like to see him stick around and maybe even go to therapy (of course that could just be my desire to see Lainey on the canvas more rearing its head).

  15. Avatar of GH LOVER
    GH LOVER

     Thanks for the spoilers Regan

    I love this story line I think this is one of the best stories GH has done in the past years..
    Yes maybe it has troubles But I don’t think it is that big.
    Woman tend to protect their abuser , and this is what Kris is doing, I hate that she blames Ethan But for me it sounds real..
    What so amazing is that the scenes are so real and the performance  is out of this world..
    Lexi Nancy Maurice  Kelly Steve  Chris  and even NP  are just amazing every scene of this story is just amazing..
    I can’t wait for  the next episode to see what will be next ….

    I am for one don’t want Kiefer to die , I want him to go to prison or something else, Not to die…..

  16. Avatar of alstonboy4315
    alstonboy4315

    You all saw what the show did to Claudia, and she didn’t even technically pull the trigger that paralyzed Michael!! I shudder to think what the show will do to Keifer considering that the actually DID directly hurt Kristina—and it wasn’t an "accident". An accident is a one time occurence, like spilling Pepsi on the carpet. Knocking around women is ABUSE. Whether he’s young or not, this boy is gonna catch all sorts of hell for this!!! It almost makes me cringe to think about it!!

  17. Avatar of GH LOVER
    GH LOVER

     EET Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo 

    I know Kiefer is a jerk , And Sonny and jason would want him dead ,But this is  a Story that should not end in the mob laws ,This can happen to anyone and this should end like it can end in the normal life , Sent Kiefer to therapy Sent him to Jail , show how  this can be resolve not in the imaginary world of the mob but in real world….

    I am mob fan but this story  is so important to me that I don’t want to see Jason Sonny Dante or Ethan killing the guy , Maybe they can kick his @Ss But not killing him..

  18. Avatar of daisychains7
    daisychains7

    Though I was never a huge Brooklynn fan (she was just okay to me), I love Adrianne and am excited to see her back. We need to beef up the Q’s, since the only one who EVER gets screentime now is Tracey. It’s a damn shame.

    So, the baby is actually Lucky’s? I hope the writers find a way to redeem this awful story.

    GH is on fire right now but there are a few things that need to be fixed. lets start with Nikolas boring me to death in scenes, and Lisa. ugh

  19. Avatar of KeriChandler26
    KeriChandler26

    I understand Kristina wanting to protect Kiefer and I definitely expected her too but I think most complaints deal with the fact that Kristina pointed the finger at Ethan. IMO that’s what makes her unsympathetic. She should have just stated that she didn’t know who did it, that the attacker wore a mask or something. Ethan being Luke’s son doesn’t mean much. Calling Ethan’s name with complete conciousness makes her come off as bitter and spiteful because he rejected her.

  20. Avatar of alstonboy4315
    alstonboy4315

    All of you hoping (or praying) for a speedy resolution/ending to this storyline clearly have not been watching GH for a long time, and don’t know how Robert Guza operates!! He likes to drag out stories for a LOOOOOOONNNNNGGG time!! How long did it take for Claudia to get punished??? Or for Sonny to find out that Dante is his son??? If you ask any good head writer or writer in general what their objective is as a writer, they will more than likely say that you have to figure out what the audience wants, and then try to keep them from getting it as long as humanly possible. Agnes Nixon and William Bell Sr., as well as any great daytime writer in soap history, have instituted this same mantra. Think about the best and greatest soap stories in history and how LOOONNNGGGG they took to play out onscreen!! I would say this will take at LEAST four months to play out!! I just hope it doesn’t take YEARS, like back in the day!!!

    Hate to burst anyone’s bubble, but if you aren’t prepared for this story to COMPLETELY monopolize the show, and everyone on it, then you might wanna find something else to watch. It’s gonna basically turn into the "Sonny/Ethan/Kristina hour" pretty soon!!! I will definitely be watching, although it still feels like watching a TRAIN WRECK, but being unable to look away!!!!
     

  21. Avatar of Ravennite613
    Ravennite613

    ARGGGHHHHH!!!!

    I love ya Regan, but I must disagree about something.  While I agree the storyline is important IT IS NOT a normal thing for an abuse victim to knowingly name someone they know as their abuser.  Most abuse victims blame themselves and as such will come up with some stranger, or nameless, faceless person.  Yes they will protect the actual person but most don’t want anyone to get into trouble because they think its their fault.

    Making Kristina the unsympathetic victim of a horrible act in my opinion reduces this story.

  22. Avatar of AWfanforever
    AWfanforever

    I think this is the best storyline GH has come up with in a loooong time!  I haven’t been able to turn myself away from the screen.  Even though I don’t agree with Kristina in pointing the finger at Ethan, at least she’s showing some remorse.  Lexi Ainsworth is rocking this storyline. 

    The only complaint I have is that this storyline is beginning to be all about Sonny.  Sonny reminiscing about the abuse his mother went through, and breaking down at Kristina’s bedside was good but I feel that they’re focusing too much on Sonny’s pain when he should be at his daughter’s side helping her through this.  I know that this is also a catalyst for Dante and Sonny to bond over Kristina’s fate, but enough over Sonny’s box of pain.  I love MB but I’d love the show to focus on Kristina, Sam and Alexis and how they get through this than Sonny going off half cocked trying to kill the man that did this to his daughter.

    But kudos to GH for not rushing this storyline and showing what really happens with abused women and how abusers keep these women tied to them.  This is a very important story to tell and GH is doing it well.

  23. Avatar of BigDede
    BigDede
    ]ARGGGHHHHH!!!!

    I love ya Regan, but I must disagree about something.  While I agree the storyline is important IT IS NOT a normal thing for an abuse victim to knowingly name someone they know as their abuser.  Most abuse victims blame themselves and as such will come up with some stranger, or nameless, faceless person.  Yes they will protect the actual person but most don’t want anyone to get into trouble because they think its their fault.

    Making Kristina the unsympathetic victim of a horrible act in my opinion reduces this story.
     

    Thank you!!!!

    Victims usually lie but they make up their attacker or they lie and say they fell down stairs or something. They don’t blame someone outright like Krissy is doing.  That is what is ruining this storyline. Now if Keifer threatened her and forced her to lie then that would be different.

    But anyhoo, thanks for the spoilers Regan. Welcome back Brooklynn

  24. Avatar of elc914
    elc914

    Thanks for the spoilers Regan.  I want this Kristina/Keifer/Ethan storyline to wrap up and I’m glad that you say it is.  I know how Guza could be with his storylines taking forever to unfold but I heard Keifer is gone in April.

  25. Avatar of taa2
    taa2

    ;EET Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo 

    I know Kiefer is a jerk , And Sonny and jason would want him dead ,But this is  a Story that should not end in the mob laws ,This can happen to anyone and this should end like it can end in the normal life , Sent Kiefer to therapy Sent him to Jail , show how  this can be resolve not in the imaginary world of the mob but in real world….

    I am mob fan but this story  is so important to me that I don’t want to see Jason Sonny Dante or Ethan killing the guy , Maybe they can kick his @Ss But not killing him..

    The few people here who know me enough to pay attention when I post *waves to the gang* know that I’m a big mob fan too. Having said that, killing people isn’t exclusively mob territory. In fact, it’s the NON-mob characters who are most likely to kill this bastard–the victim, a friend or a relative. Unfortunately, the only sure way to stop an abuser IS to kill them. They do not respond to therapy, definitely won’t stop on their own and rarely go to prison. If they do any time at all behind bars, it’s minimal unless the abuser practically kills–or does kill–his victim. The disgusting truth is that the average victim is pretty helpless against her abuser.

    What I’ve written above is part of my reason for a complete and total lack of patience with people who fault the writers because Sonny’s character is so haunted by his own past because of K’s beating. Until Friday, I wondered when TPTB would show him in full breakdown mode because, in real life, that’s what would happen to someone with his background. He is an abuse survivor AND he’s bipolar. Even someone who isn’t bipolar, but who is a survivor of repeated abuse and torture, would be thrown into a full-fledged PTSD episode.

    So yeah, haters, hate on that! Truth be told, there are so many of you, including a prominent columnist here, and you are so absolutely ignorant about abuse itself, its ramifications, who commits it (cops are FREQUENTLY abusive, though not all), and how utterly devastating it is that I no longer read one of the columns or its comments. While GH is fictional, abuse is a very real-life problem that they should thank whatever higher power they believe in they have not experienced.

  26. Avatar of curacaoman
    curacaoman

    I don’t see why Kiefer needs to be gone. Wouldn’t it be more powerful to see him work through his issues and emerge a better person? Have him stand up to his dad and break the cycle of abuse!

  27. Avatar of rebecca
    rebecca

    I think it would be interesting if Dante killed Kiefer in the line of duty.That way we would get to see what a police officer goes through when he kills someone in a domestic dispute. I know alot of times when the police get called in a domestic dispute,it ends with the abuser being shot and killed by the cops.It would be interesting to see that with Dante because then he would have to deal with the fact that he killed Kristina’s boyfriend and the fact that Kiefer was a teenager and he has parents with powerful conections.
    He could also lose his badge over it or at the very least be suspendid from the force.

  28. Avatar of EricasEvilTwin
    EricasEvilTwin

    I am wondering if the person who kills Kiefer (if they go that route) might end up being his mother.  They brought on a good actress for this part and obviously she is disposable (meaning they can send her to jail or have her exit town without  changing the canvas)

    HMMM

    TAA – GREAT POST.

  29. Avatar of KayleeT
    KayleeT

    Can they off Kristina too?  I can’t stand the character anymore…take Lisa, Nikolas and Alexis with you…maybe Ric can come back and show them how to just leave the show….they can leave Morgan…he is all of the child actors we need…they can have this Liz/Nikolas storyline and all of her skittles pack…Patrick can go to since he is a jerk these days…oh and Jax…take Jax too…Kiefer’s dad…Sonny….Carly…there is a triangle…we don’t need a fourth…

  30. Avatar of taa2
    taa2

    I don’t see why Kiefer needs to be gone. Wouldn’t it be more powerful to see him work through his issues and emerge a better person? Have him stand up to his dad and break the cycle of abuse!

    I don’t know how to state this any more clearly than I have already, so I will repeat my statement and invite you to speak with any COMPETENT person who works with victims. Perpetrators DO NOT RESPOND to therapy. If one adds sexual abuse to the physical, because they are very often intertwined, the only options are death or hiding for the rest of your life. And if the abuser isn’t abusing the original victim, he’s found someone else. Pray that in doing so, he rapes or molests the wrong person and ends up behind bars for that.

    This fantasy about Keifer seeing the error of his ways is just that–fantasy. Keifer was probably abusing someone or some poor animal LONG before he began hurting K. Perps escalate. They do not stop. IF someone with a clue can reach a younger person before they begin to escalate, then MAYBE that kid has a chance to short-circuit the cycle of violence. But once the abuser reaches a certain point, it is too late.

    That’s not to say that all abused children will become abusers themselves, because that’s not at all true. But most abusers were abused. And if they aren’t abusers, they still probably have serious issues they may or may not have dealt with responsibly. A survivor can do everything s/he is supposed to do and still have lifelong effects.

    In conclusion, stop fantasizing about some Disney ending, even if they do own the network, because that’s what’s more comfortable and get educated.

  31. Avatar of Regan Cellura
    Regan Cellura

    It’s not uncommon for the victim to label someone else at fault for things. To this extent?No. However, most are not living in a fictional city where their dad is the mob boss who can kill off their boyfriend with the nod of his head. Do they blame themsleves? Absolutley! Do they come up with every excuse possible? Yes. Will they even make up a story that has someone else being the one who "bumped into" them or that it was someone else who broke something "on accident" when their abuser got mad? YES!

    I understand everyone’s frustration. It has still been wonderfully written and acted and my initial comment was ‘not that far off base,’ I didn’t say directly on point. 

  32. Avatar of taa2
    taa2

    Thank you, sassydreams. :)  And Regan, you are dead on.  I’m really glad that a few people are beginning to understand what’s going on with this kid.

    Something has been bothering me because it has only been mentioned in passing both online and on GH.  In the real world, Ethan could face assault charges for the way he manhandled K.  Consider that he is about 23 years old, something over six feet tall and weighs at least 180 pounds with big, strong hands.  He used those hands to grip this 17-year-old kid who weighs all of 100 pounds on a good day so hard that he caused bruising.  If you really want to get down to the nitty gritty, Ethan DID abuse K.  He had no right to grasp her and squeeze like that.  Yet that was glossed over with "I screwed up" and "I grabbed her arm."  Those phrases don’t begin to cover it! Sam was absolutely right to tear him a new one.  

    Furthermore, he made himself the prime suspect in the beating.  If K were laying there unconscious and couldn’t make a statement, with everything Sam knew about prior events, Ethan would be the obvious "person of interest."  GREAT interest.  In a sense, K isn’t as far off as she first sounds. I remember watching those scenes and seeing red when he had his big old hands wrapped around her tiny arm. Now that would get his ass kicked by her brothers and other male relatives in the real world!  It was not nearly as insignificant an incident as it is being portrayed.

  33. Avatar of Analiza
    Analiza

    [quote=taa2] Until Friday, I wondered when TPTB would show him in full breakdown mode because, in real life, that’s what would happen to someone with his background. He is an abuse survivor AND he’s bipolar. Even someone who isn’t bipolar, but who is a survivor of repeated abuse and torture, would be thrown into a full-fledged PTSD episode.[/quote]

    True.

    But I got a different take from the comments than you did.

    In THIS instance, how could we not feel sympathy for what Sonny went through or what Kristina is going through?  But I think the complaint is that, every time the writers want to explain some awful behavior on Sonny’s part, they make a point of bringing up Deke, as though Sonny’s being an abuse survivor somehow gives him license to, say shoot an unarmed man.

    Also, no matter what storyline is being played out, we always hear Sonny talk about himself as though it was ALL about him.  I think the "hate" (as you put it) is about the focus on one character when there are so many others whose reactions people would like to see but that are only mentioned (as they supposedly happen off camera).

    MB is a good actor but too much of a good thing is still too much.  I think viewers would like to see less of what the writers have fed us over and over in the past and more of something that’s fresh (like Mike’s reaction to his granddaughter’s beating, for instance).

  34. Avatar of EricasEvilTwin
    EricasEvilTwin

    Analiza I agree that we still have some balance issues when it comes to utilizing the whole cast.  I think its been better in the last year than it has been in a long time, but yes we still have a way to go.

    That said, I dont think its that the writers trot Sonny’s childhood out as an excuse as it is that the way the character has been written this is THE defining experience of his life.  Its what shaped his views on relationships with women in terms of both the romantic/love side of the equation and the maternal, mother role.  Its the biggest reason he got into the mob – sure he liked the money and the potential for power, but he has repeatedly said that it was after Adele nearly died that he went to Joe Scully.  Its now the reason why he didnt know of Dante. etc. etc. so for me if he DIDNT bring it up it would seem strange. Moreover, I think it is strange that they played his bi-polar issues as cured by Emily and the meds.  We still see him drinking, he was pushed to the edge when Kate was shot and then again with Michael and yet there wasnt even a nod to his condition.

    Think of it this way – Edward is in many ways defined by the way he fought to build ELQ and his desire to ensure that it stands as his legacy and mark on the world.  Sam is in many ways defined by her lack of love in her childhood years.  Lizard is in many ways defined by the horrific rape that she expienced.  Carly in many ways is defined by the lack of a strong male presence in her childhood.  And the list goes on.  How could they tell a story for any of these characters where those buttons were pushed and not have them touch on the history that goes along with why these ARE such hot button issues for them.

  35. Avatar of Analiza
    Analiza

    [quote=EricasEvilTwin]Think of it this way – Edward is in many ways defined by the way he fought to build ELQ and his desire to ensure that it stands as his legacy and mark on the world.  Sam is in many ways defined by her lack of love in her childhood years.  Lizard is in many ways defined by the horrific rape that she expienced.  Carly in many ways is defined by the lack of a strong male presence in her childhood.  And the list goes on.  How could they tell a story for any of these characters where those buttons were pushed and not have them touch on the history that goes along with why these ARE such hot button issues for them.[/quote]

    I completely understand your point and agree, except about Sonny.  Here’s why:

    I’m actually not anti-Sonny.  Believe it or not, it wasn’t until I started reading the comments here on DC that I took notice of the "abundance" of Sonny and his history.

    In my post, I was pretty much trying to present another point of view (one that I only recently began seeing myself).

    For many long-time fans, much of what gets said by Sonny in justification of his actions can get pretty repetitive.  Now, I do realize that they must harken back to the characters’ histories from time to time to bring newer viewers up to speed but it seems like, when they do this for Sonny, it’s waaaay more dramatic each and every time than it is with any other character (with the exception of this recent Lucky/Liz/Nicholas storyline where Liz’s rape was mentioned practically more than it was when it originally happened).

    I can see where people could start to get pretty sick of this.  There’s only so much that people will take before they start to loose sympathy and respect for a character (or a person, for that matter) who remains self-centered and tied to a way of doing things that only brings pain and suffering on themselves and the people they supposedly care about. 

    Other posters have commented on how inappropriate it was for Alexis to hit Sonny as she was telling him not to commit an act of violence against Ethan but I think this perfectly illustrates the frustation some fans are feeling–maybe someone can smack some sense into Sonny and get him to pay attention to someone else’s pain for a change (like his neglected teenage daughter who’s lying in a hospital bed).

    It was an awkward scene–him telling Kristina as she lay there that she reminded him of her grandmother–but perhaps it was written to show that this is the only way this "broken" person can relate to his daughter, making it that much sadder.

    But I think the argument from other posters was mostly about the writers giving us a storyline that can involve just about everyone and we’re getting Sonny, Sonny and more Sonny (as if we weren’t already getting our share of him and his twisted brand of logic in connection with Claudia’s murder trial and Dante’s shooting).

    But then again, maybe I’m over-"Analizing" it.

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    samrocks

    Reganthanks for the spoilers!

    Taawelcome back, lady!

    I dont think its that the writers trot Sonny’s childhood out as an excuse as it is that the way the character has been written this is THE defining experience of his life. 

    WORD.  This is one storyline where I EXPECT Sonny to be a major player.  Like he said to Carly, all the money and the power couldn’t protect his only daughter from the one thing he hated most about his childhood.  Yes, other characters COULD be involved in the story, but he is one that SHOULD be front and center since he is immediate family.

    We still see him drinking, he was pushed to the edge when Kate was shot and then again with Michael and yet there wasnt even a nod to his condition.

    No kidding!  With the haphazard way he manages his condition, I’m surprised Sonny doesn’t have his own reserved suite at ShadyBrook.  I would be shocked if he didn’t have a breakdown within the next few weeks.

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    jlj0117
    This is one storyline where I EXPECT Sonny to be a major player.  Like he said to Carly, all the money and the power couldn’t protect his only daughter from the one thing he hated most about his childhood.  Yes, other characters COULD be involved in the story, but he is one that SHOULD be front and center since he is immediate family.
     

    I agree and understand the posters who are sick of Sonny. BUT, if there was any storyline where he SHOULD be a main player, then this is it people.  He is seeing his CHILD go through what he went through,  and what his on mother went through. HOW we see him deal with it is one debate. But the point is, he is the FATHER in this scenario, and he is going to be front and center with the rest of the players.

    I also have a feeling, that if Sonny wasn’t shown dealing with this incident, that alot of posters would be going off on his character for not being involved enough.

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    Ravennite613

    Sonny is an emotional abuser to women and for that reason I despise that he trots out the "I don’t hit women" or Deke BS crap to tell away his problems.  SORRY but emotional abuse is just as damning as physical abuse.  It leaves scars.  I get where Sonny is coming from but unless this changes Sonny it will be the same old same old.  Sonny can’t go to prison because Deke kept him in a closet…Sonny doesn’t hit women so its ok to call them bitches and such…well NO…not for this fan.

    Also – I very strongly disagree that Ethan could be charged with assault because in the capacity that he was in he was well within his rights to remove Kristina from the Haunted Star.   Any bouncer has a right to remover unruly patrons and as long as it does not go over board they are within the establishments rights.  For me Ethan was removing an uncooperative patron that could have gotten the HS closed down and their liquor license revoked. 

    As for Sam…no one should hit ANYONE in anger.  So while we think she was kinds of justified what message does that send.  Do as I say not as I do.  So because she is a women she is allowed to hit anyone she wants without the same justice she wants for Ethan. 

    I am actually hoping that it is Keifer’s mother who is the abuser to show something that is not as normal in society but just as serious

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