GH SHOCKER: Sam McCall Plays Pimp For Michael, Who Gets VIOLENT With a Hooker!




This is certainly one I didn’t see coming. General Hospital has left not-so-subtle clues, to remind fans that something happened to Michael (Chad Duell) behind those prison bars. We’ve been questioning all along, are they ever going to reveal whether Michael was raped or not? In the latest SPOILER news and storyline twist, Soap Opera Network has some juicy scoop.

Apparently, Sam McCall’s (Kelly Monaco) pimp hand is pretty strong as she hires a hooker to ease Michael’s sexual fears. Candy (Andrea Bogart)— a lady of the evening Sam met while undercover as a stripper— is hired to "help" Michael get past what happened. Personally, I’m thinking an appointment with a shrink would be better, but hey, that’s just me. Unfortunately  for Sam, her plan backfires. As we’ve seen before, Michael has a bad reaction to the bad girl when Michael turns "violent" with Candy-girl.

This shocking episode airs Oct. 5.

84 Responses

  1. Avatar of troymcclure
    troymcclure

    This is just wrong on so many levels.
    Why the heck would Sam get Michael a hooker and why are we still subjected to anyone getting hookers on daytime? It’s such a friggin’ clichè that should’ve dies out years ago.

    Michael gets violent with the hooker….like WTH?

  2. Avatar of Kelly8970
    Kelly8970

    LOL. I find the writing of this character sleazy and stupid. Hiring a prostitute for a rape victim? WOW. It’s amazing to me that GH has one of their leading men, Jason Morgan, involved with this woman.

  3. Avatar of josser
    josser

    This is so wrong on many levels. Why would any normal adult woman hire a hooker for a teenager? That doesn’t happen in real life, especially if that teenager has emotional issues.

    This makes very little sense.

    And, why do we need Michael to beat up some poor woman? Really, we saw Kristina beaten bloody and this?

  4. Avatar of east.west
    east.west

    I don’t see what the big deal is. They have been playing this angle for awhile, and whether it was going to be a hooker or some girl, Michael’s next sexual experience was going to go down like this.

  5. Avatar of GH LOVER
    GH LOVER

    It sucks!!!!!!

    east.west, I agree with You that People who have been trough rape and abuse most likely will be violent with other people…
    But emotional therapy can help.. and that is what I wanted that someone will face Michael and let him get the help he needs not going that rough on a daytime show!!!!!!!!!

    This is sucks!!

  6. Avatar of east.west
    east.west

    All I am saying is that in the final days of cliches and bad storytelling, give me this over that b/c it’ll be worth my time to watch live or later in my day online. I am down to 1/2 (AMC, B&B, GH) of the shows that are still on the air. Not a good thing.

  7. Avatar of js3557
    js3557

    The big deal is that Sam, as an adult, should know that (1) hiring a hooker is illegal and therefore violates Michael’s probation, (2) that the trauma of a rape can’t be dealt with by having sex, and (3)that Carly will kick her ass for hurting Michael.

    This is not new behavior for Sam, though. After Emily was raped by Nik’s look-a-like and was having trouble being intimate with Nik, she told her to just get back in the saddle and do Nik to get over her rape.

    Sam is classless, clueless, and ridiculous – and she always has been. And before people say that I only think this because I am a Liason fan, I didn’t like her with Jax, Sonny, Rick, Lucky or Jason. I think this character is awful.

  8. Avatar of GHvetfan
    GHvetfan

    Michael’s next sexual experience does not have to be violent. Michael has been crying out for someone to talk to. These writers are horrible. What is wrong with getting him therapy? These writers really hate Sam. I have to see how this plays out before I totally crucify her but WTF this sounds like total craziness.

  9. Avatar of GHvetfan
    GHvetfan

    “Sam is classless, clueless, and ridiculous – and she always has been. And before people say that I only think this because I am a Liason fan, I didn’t like her with Jax, Sonny, Rick, Lucky or Jason. I think this character is awful.”

    What she said!!!

    Seriously, if you find out that a friend’s kid has been raped, do you
    A) Hire a hooker
    B) Tell the kid’s parents
    C) Tell the kid that he has a safe place if he needs to talk and leave him the heck alone if he say no

  10. Avatar of No Daisy
    No Daisy

    Wow, this is just pathetic story telling. I can only hope that there will be an outcry from fans over this that will finally be heard by ABCD execs because Guza is clearly believing his own overblown hype. How crappy do the stories have to be to lose ratings when you are promoting a “big movie star” on your show? And how can you fumble the long awaited comeback of an uber popular soap star? Guza needs a reality check-preferbly in the unemployment line.

  11. Avatar of Bob Lamm
    Bob Lamm

    On a show where your two main heroes are the mob boss and his hit man, hiring a prostitute to help a troubled teenager deal with his problems fits right in. Unfortunately.

    This show is misogynistic and offensive.

  12. Avatar of coolblue
    coolblue

    Once again Michael’s parents are clueless. Carly is too obsessed with getting revenge on Dante/Lulu, and Sonny is too busy planning Johnny’s demise/hooking up with Claire that neither can see their son needs help.

    The character of Sam is truly the poster child for sleaze. Maybe she can tell Jason, Carly, and Sonny that she had a “moment of weakness”. LOL

    If the writers wanted someone to help Michael, they should have let him tell Jax. Jax was a victim of rape at gunpoint by his brother’s girlfriend. He may have been able to help his step-son.

  13. Avatar of js3557
    js3557

    east.west – I’m sorry, but I wouldn’t call being traumatized by a brutal rape as being in a “funk”. That’s something that takes years of therapy to deal with, and even then you never truly get over it completely.

  14. Avatar of jmoney
    jmoney

    OK, people really. Yes, if this is the real world Michael would get help. Obviously. But reality check, if this were the real world Michael would never be a loud to see sonny either. This is a dramatic television show. The issues don’t fade quickly, they’re seldom fixed on the first attempt, and we still watch because it is how soaps operate! You all watch more soaps than me, cmon now!

    Think of the storylines this produces:

    1. Angst between Jason & Sam because Jason is infuriated Sam would be so stupid. Clears the path for BrenJa.

    2. Trouble between K & Michael because K can’t believe Michael would beat women.

    3. Dante could be held responsible as the person who currently has custody of Michael.

    4. Michael & Sonny have convos about how hitting women is inappopriate.

    5. Carly goes balistic because of the aforementioned storylines.

    6. Michael gets the help he needs from Laney, which results in the biracial relationship we’ve been promised.

    *** Alright the last one was far fetched, but cmon people, this will drive storyline for 6 months…easy…

  15. Avatar of east.west
    east.west

    Again, for me, it is what it is at this pt. w/GH. They are going to do what they are going to do. Sure there’s A LOT that can be better, but it took all of the shows that I enjoyed being unwatchable at once to appreciate GH. And the show being better than it has been in yrs. also helps.

  16. Avatar of Regan Cellura
    Regan Cellura

    After a little more digging on the topic… there is some CHATTER that Sam does try to talk to Jason about her concerns regarding Michael, but Carly’s latest crisis via a phone call gets in the way. Also, Jason has Brenda to deal with who has returned to Port Charles and is living in the Penthouse. IMO it still does not mean, hey let’s get this hooker chick I met to help you get past your sexual fears and obviously, it doesn’t work as intended. I can only think of one reason that I would consider it acceptable to acquire a lady of the night for a teenager and this is not it.

  17. Avatar of miwebste
    miwebste

    [quote=js3557]The big deal is that Sam, as an adult, should know that (1) hiring a hooker is illegal and therefore violates Michael’s probation, (2) that the trauma of a rape can’t be dealt with by having sex, and (3)that Carly will kick her ass for hurting Michael.
    [/quote]

    Doubt it. Carly will find some way to blame this on Dante, too.

    And I agree with all of you that this is appalling, but in Sam’s defense, does she know that Michael was actually raped? She knows something is wrong, but she doesn’t know what, right? I mean, no one is actually saying the words, it’s all implied. So even though this idea is ridiculous in any context, I’d like to think that Sam wouldn’t try something like this if she knew the whole story, no?

    Go ahead, call me naive…

  18. Avatar of js3557
    js3557

    The only reason I think she would still do this even knowing that Michael was raped is because of her advice to Emily after she was raped. She apparently thinks that sex cures all. Look at how she and Jason got back together. They didn’t have a meaningful conversation about what they had done to eachother – they had sex in Mexico and everything was suddenly all better.

  19. Avatar of josser
    josser

    And, for goodness sake, victims of rape do not become violent abusers! Jeez, look up the statistics: 1 of 4 women/girls is raped and 1 of 6 men/boys is raped.

    Not every rape victim becomes violent.

    I think we should watch the episode to see how violent Michale becomes. Does he push or beat?

  20. Avatar of Mobb Ish
    Mobb Ish

    This whole S/L became garbage as soon as the writers started wanting us to question whether or not Michael was even raped! A lot of people come out of prison w/o ever being sexually assaulted. He could’ve gotten jumped by a gang or anything relative to being harmed physically….but to make a pivotal MALE character such as Michael a rape victim turned me off for a long time….First things first, he should have been sent to a Juvenile Detention center! I know that if it comes out he was really raped, I will most likely stop watching this show for a while (He’s my favorite character…not CD, I loved Drew but am a Michael fan because we have a lot in common, being the junior of a powerful criminal in my city! He’s 18, he should’ve been working on his 3rd or 4th girlfriend by now atleast.

  21. Avatar of GH LOVER
    GH LOVER

    Regan I agree..
    I don’t think Sam will know that Michael was raped.. all she will see that he has issues with intimacy..
    As much as I hate what they are doing to Sam.. she does want to help the kid.. Max also tried that with Michael’s B day…

    I hate it.. I wish it would have come out in different way…

    The fact is that Michael doesn’t have address to talk too at the moment .. his legal guardian is Dante
    so Dante should have been the one who will help Michael that is what he said…
    Dante doesn’t do a thing in the time Michael was with him… right now he leaves Michael alone to be with his scooby girl..

    Carly can’t do a thing because she is not in charge of him so does Sonny, and as they always ,are too busy with their own world..
    Carly knows something is wrong but she doesn’t know what to do… she can’t do a thing..

    Jason is the only one who knows for a fact, But he doesn’t know what to do, it is a shock to him too all he does is talk with Michael trying to be there for him, better than Dante..
    but that is Jason..
    and when You think that Michael is ready to talk.. Jason is not around.. twice it happened..
    and now Jason is busy with Brenda..

    I can’t really blame Sam because I don’t think she knew exactly what happened..

    I still hate that this story UGH

  22. Avatar of JasamForever
    JasamForever

    I cannot even believe that Sam would advise a hooker for Michael. She has noticed that something is wrong with him, and that he flinches when someone touches him. I am HATING how they are writing Sam. My lack of support for this show just grows and grows.

  23. Avatar of GHFan777
    GHFan777

    Michael needs therapy. I personally have been amazed, that no one has taken him to counseling on this show. I figured it was written this way because Jason is resistant to asking for help, and used to burying feelings. We all know that Carly has been way too busy with her revenge plot, to even find time to think about her son. Sonny is the one that really should have thought of it, based on his own mental health history…but I guess he too has been caught up in his own selfish interests. That leaves Jax and Dante. I can’t really come up with an excuse for them dropping the ball, but bottom line…they are all negligent. Asking how he was doing, and then not following through with more… is unacceptable.

    As for Sam. She thinks sex is the answer for all problems. She has always used her own sexuality to fix things in her life, why wouldn’t you expect her to come up with something similar for another. I am not really a Sam fan, but I don’t hate the character either. These new actions really put her in a bad light though. If they wanted to make the character look bad, this is an excellent way. By setting Michael up with a hooker, not only isn’t she helping him, she is making his problems far worse. I am not going to list all the ways, earlier posters have done a great job at doing this already. These actions really cheapen and degrade the character of Sam though. If I were one of her fans, I think I would be very unhappy with reading this spoiler. It is like 2007 all over again, when she became an accomplice to a kidnapping among a few other things.

  24. Avatar of watchingallday
    watchingallday

    SAY WHAT? So either Sam knows/thinks Michael was raped in prison or just thinks he is having a hard time readjusting to life outside of prison and her solution is that he needs to get laid? And then Michael gets violent with the streetwalker? WTF is going on in that writers room? EVERY single person in that room as well as Jill Farren Phelps and Brian Frons needs to be fired! If they think this trash is what people want to see in freaking daytime television, then they do not need to be there. I thought part of his release from jail was that he had to get counseling? The writers are not only full of crap, they are lazy. I can just see that hack Guza now in an interview congratulating himself of playing out the beats of this story, thinking he is being bold and daring instead of trashy and disgusting.

    I think I might be the one who needs therapy because I continue to watch this crap!

  25. Avatar of jasam fan
    jasam fan

    It amazes me how people are so quick to talk down regarding the character of Sam. Sam has made a lot of mistakes since being introduced to the show, however, for the most part she has ALWAYS taken care of Michael and tried to do what was in his best interest when his PARENTS are to busy focusing on their own drama. Example: when Michael was kidnapped and presumed dead, thanks to AJ, it was SAM who sought out psychiatric help. And during that entire s/l she had to constantly encourage Jason to go along with it. Michael was not then nor is he now her responsibility, but she does at least TRY and help him out when he is in need of it.

    Now, do I agree with her getting him a “lady of the night” to try and help him with his intimacy issues, NO. However, we don’t know what Michael say to Sam for her decide to go that route, so until the episode airs, why don’t you guys hold your tongues.

    For those of you that say that Sam thinks all problems can be solved with sex. What does that say about Saint Elizabeth? I bring Elizabeth into this convo because I’m sure all that have negative things to say about the character of Sam, are Liason fans. At least when Sam make a mistake she accepts responsibility, unlike Liz.

  26. Avatar of alstonboy4315
    alstonboy4315

    What?????????????????????????????????

    Never mind. Don’t try to explain it to me. I am pretty sure it won’t make any more sense the second time around than the first time around.

    First of all, why would Sam CARE about Michael’s sexual fears, desires, tendencies or anything related to his sexuality???? Doesn’t she realize that Jason, MICHAEL’S SURROGATE FATHER/UNCLE/the supposed “love of her life” might not look too kindly on this??

    Or are they simply trying to break up JaSam to make room for BreSon??? If so, this is a pretty lame way to go about it.

    Secondly, I don’t believe that Michael would ever exhibit violence toward a woman after watching what Keifer put Kristina through!!! Even if it were unintentional, it doesn’t ring true to me.

    I will be watching, of course, with my fingers STRATEGICALLY covering my eyes—this is one horror movie that I am not sure I want to watch in it’s entirety.

  27. Avatar of Bob Lamm
    Bob Lamm

    Sam’s decision to hire a prostitute for Michael is offensive whether or not he was raped in prison and whether or not Sam is aware that Michael was raped in prison.

    Suppose Michael hadn’t been raped. Suppose he were just shy and uncomfortable with women, with sexuality, with intimacy. So the answer is to hire a prostitute for him? Absurd and offensive. But predictable in Guza world, where mobsters are the good guys.

  28. Avatar of cokeyloveshersoaps
    cokeyloveshersoaps

    I was wondering how long it would be before someone brought Liz into it i just dont understand what Liz has to do with sam. Sorry to burst anyone’s bubble but i am not a liason fan so any negative comments about her come from my hate of the character sam since the first day she walked on my screen.

  29. Avatar of GHvetfan
    GHvetfan

    Allistair –
    “Remember when Liz was raped and then went around slashing people’s throats?

    Yeah. Me neither.”

    OK, you made me laugh.

    jasam -
    I too was wondering when this would turn into a Liason / Jasam debate. Didn’t really take long. So, the response to Sam is sleazy is that you think Liz is more sleazy. Whatevs!

  30. Avatar of Ravennite613
    Ravennite613

    OMFG this is the only thing I could come with. A hooker??? What if Michael isn’t into women maybe that along with the alleged incident in prison. Sorry but making Sam be the one getting Michael a hooker is just a smack in the face.

    Earth to JaSammers not everything a Liason fan says is because of Liason or because we have some need to diss Sam the writers do fine by both women. Yet odd that it’s always JaSammers bringing up Liz when she has nothing to do with a situation. I was a Sam fan but when she watched a child get kidnapped she was dead to me now a hooker just seals the deal. Set Sam free.

  31. Avatar of sb_fan
    sb_fan

    Wow, looks like this viewer is gonna stop watching if they’re gonna do this stupid ass storyline.
    Note to writers,(and this is coming from a diehard Jasam fan), if u wanna break up Jasam, do it without dragging Sam through the fucking mud again. I REFUSE to go through another 2007 clusterfuck.(btw, are we allowed to curse on this site?, If not, I apologize) I mean, seriously what the hell is this crap? I’m really pissed! I don’t even know what to say. Am just gonna have to quit this dumbass show because am fed up with the stupid stylings of Guza, etc. I’m so mad, I could scream.

  32. Avatar of siomonstuart2003
    siomonstuart2003

    Sb_fan, agreeing with you. I don’t buy this mess up s/l. Sam is many things, but she would never do this or watch kids get kidnapped and not do anything about it or set it up. This is all a plan to make the fans hate Sam because Brenda is back. Sam would of been a friend to Michael and help him, not hired a hooker, LOL. This is so wrong. Guza needs to go.

  33. Avatar of sassysdreams
    sassysdreams

    [quote=siomonstuart2003]What’s next: Molly hiring a hitman to get rid of someone she don’t like??? LOL[/quote]

    Sorry but Molly already tried doing that during the Keifer storyline!!!

  34. Avatar of sassysdreams
    sassysdreams

    Come on people, do you all always believe every single headline or well placed piece of gossip that you read? You know that the people who write these things are deliberately trying to stir the pot and get people arguing, talking, etc!

    I’m taking a wait and see attitude. I’d like to see what happens the day before and the day after and see what ACTUALLY happens the day of before rushing to judgement!!!

  35. Avatar of js3557
    js3557

    I can’t stand Sam. I haven’t liked her since day one. Yup, that right. It has nothing to do with Liason. I have not liked her in ANY of her couples (Lucky was the best, but still awful).

  36. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    Well we dont know what GH’s Term Of violence means and IF Michael was raped by a man in Jail and for all we know Michael is Not gay so that could be playin on him as well

    Look GH screwed up another story

    Sam would never hire someone so Michael could get over his sex hangups

    GH is all PLOT and this story with Michael could have been great CHARACTER drama but it wont be. Its just a lame excuse to never answer the question what did happen top Michael in jail

    Look for ABC were smart ( I, Know ) then they would cross Susan Haskell as Marty Saybrooke over from OLTL to counsel Michael for a short-term arc, But GH would never do that

  37. Avatar of LizzieVee
    LizzieVee

    “For those of you that say that Sam thinks all problems can be solved with sex. What does that say about Saint Elizabeth? I bring Elizabeth into this convo because I’m sure all that have negative things to say about the character of Sam, are Liason fans. At least when Sam make a mistake she accepts responsibility, unlike Liz.”

    In response to this, yes, I too am a Liason fan and yes, I agree that Elizabeth has made her fair share of mistakes BUT she has admitted them and owned up to them. Not like Sam who always gets drunk and claims she had “a moment of weakness” whenever she causes trouble.

    Sam has slept with Sonny, Jax, Jason, Rick, and Lucky. Elizabeth has slept with Jason, Lucky, Nicholas and Zander. So, Sam has one up on her. Elizabeth may have 3 children from 3 men but then so does Alexis and Carly.

    Elizabeth has always held real jobs and maintaned her independence, unlike Sam who has always used sex to get everything. Eeveryone knows the PI stuff is a joke! For a “ride and die chick”, who can handle “the life” she always gets hurt at every turn and has to have Jason rescue her and reassure her that she’s a good person, etc. And he’s just doing that because he’s thinking with his little head and not with his big one and Sam is using that to keep her hold on him cause that’s all she knows how to do. She is a very insecure person. And, I won’t get into Jason and his stupidity for taking her back after everything she did concerning Jake.

    I agree with another poster when Elizabeth (and lets not forget Emily and Laura) got raped, none of them went around being violent and beating people up.

    Let’s face it, GH started losing their audience when the Zahcarras came to town and Michael was shot and all the violence that came with it. They have truely ruined his charcter for life. I know this has turned me off GH and I was once one of their biggest fans. I watch soaps to live in a fantasy world for an hour or so a day. I want love and romance from Liason. Not sex, sleeze and violence from Jalame. There is enough violence in the real world.

  38. Avatar of GH LOVER
    GH LOVER

    It is bad plot that COULD be better. if it was handle and written better,
    I am kind of mad with it because, even though I hated the thought that a kid that I saw from when he was a baby and saw what he been trough, also been trough that..

    I thought they handle that Story good, how he didn’t admitted that first, how he jumped when someone touched him..how when he talks with Jason they both can’t say it.. it was done really well and seem so real,
    because men do not tend to say they were raped it is different from woman rape..
    also to think that his two big roll model Are SaSon.. I could understand him not say it or how Jason couldn’t even handle it…

    now it is getting the Guza treatment AWFUL

    Also about violence after rape.. we all need to remember Laura/Liz/Emily were woman there is different from woman rape to men rape..

    I still hate it…

    appleridge I agree with you, doing cross over with OLTL and brining Marty to help Michael can be a amazing amazing idea.. But this is Guza Frons world…

    I still hate it

  39. Avatar of samrocks
    samrocks

    Sigh.

    Team Sam, reporting for duty, LOL. No, I’m not going to try to defend this because it is indefensible. At best (assuming she doesn’t know about the rape), it is a stupid move, and at worst (assuming she knows)…well, you know. (When Max tried to do this, I laughed it off because I don’t consider Max to be the brightest bulb – although he is super loyal.)

    I want to say that I can’t believe the writers would go there, but let’s face it – we all can. :Sp

    Of course, I am taking Sassy’s “wait-and-see” approach because these things do not always play out as spoiled. Case in point: Spin was supposed to try and keep Sam from seeing a photo of Brenda and Jason kissing but we all know that didn’t happen.

    Sigh (again). Bones and Grey’s return tonight, so at least I have *something* to look forward to on television. :~

  40. Avatar of mr.sam mccall1
    mr.sam mccall1

    LizzieVee pretty much everything you said was flase. The show proves it there are clips on YT that proves it. Also Sam doesn’t always get hurt and she doesn’t always need to be saved again clips from YT prove it. Not only were your post wrong about Sam your post about Liz was wrong to. But thats cool Have a nice day

  41. Avatar of mr.sam mccall1
    mr.sam mccall1

    Now somebody brought up Em and Nik and said Sam told her to sleep with him after the rape. SOOO funny they left out the part were EM WANTED TO BE WITH NIK. EM ASKED SAM WHAT SHOULD SHE DO CAUSE EM WANTED TO BE WITH NIK. Sam told EM if she was ready to go for it that she should make the first move, cause Nik wasn’t going to cause after the situation of her rape. I can bring over that YT clip also if need to to prove what the poster said to be flase. EM wanted to be with Nik Sam told her if she’s ready go for it trust in what they had. Like when ppl post things like what was said make sure are with ppl who don’t watch the show.

    Again somebody leaves out what happend in the sceen to fit there post.

  42. Avatar of mr.sam mccall1
    mr.sam mccall1

    [quote=GHvetfan]What is a flase?[/quote]

    I type to fast sometimes and miss spelled the word. But what was said but those posters were false. There are clips on YT that prove so. If you watch the show you can see that. Im not saying you have to like her but you can’t say this, that and the third are true when they aren’t.

  43. Avatar of mr.sam mccall1
    mr.sam mccall1

    [quote=GHvetfan]AH, I figured that out. I really shouldn’t multi-task.

    As I have already said, I am waiting to see how this plays out but it is typical for Guza and Sam.[/quote]

    I agree typical Guza. But it’s just not for Sam it’s for anybody who’s not a fave of his. He will toss you under the bus to get what he wants.

  44. Avatar of js3557
    js3557

    From the script in 2005:

    “Sam: I think you do, ok? I think that the elephant in the room is called sex. Let’s face it. Nikolas has been in prison for, what, at least six months now. He’d be frustrated even if you hadn’t been raped, but you were. And you have kind of shut that part of yourself down —
    Emily: Yeah.
    Sam: So Nikolas is shutting that part of himself down so he doesn’t hurt any of your recovery. It’s a stalemate, Emily, and you are the only one who can break it.”

    Sam totally tells Emily that the problem in her relationship is not having sex with Nik. She even points out how horny he must be after 6 months in prison. She tells the rape victim to have sex to solve her relationship problems.

  45. Avatar of Mac Attack
    Mac Attack

    So . Not one F****** adult in his life thought a therapist would be necessary? And the judge that released him from prison didn’t think it would be a good idea either? DUDE. WHO IS WRITING THIS SHOW?

  46. Avatar of mr.sam mccall1
    mr.sam mccall1

    [quote=js3557]From the script in 2005:

    “Sam: I think you do, ok? I think that the elephant in the room is called sex. Let’s face it. Nikolas has been in prison for, what, at least six months now. He’d be frustrated even if you hadn’t been raped, but you were. And you have kind of shut that part of yourself down —
    Emily: Yeah.
    Sam: So Nikolas is shutting that part of himself down so he doesn’t hurt any of your recovery. It’s a stalemate, Emily, and you are the only one who can break it.”

    Sam totally tells Emily that the problem in her relationship is not having sex with Nik. She even points out how horny he must be after 6 months in prison. She tells the rape victim to have sex to solve her relationship problems.[/quote]
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I’ll post the clips and we can see how it played out.

    Em and Sam talk after she was with Nik- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXGDWW-ygD4

    Em and Sam talk before she was with Nik- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYwkpHwufKw&feature=related

  47. Avatar of Dariclone
    Dariclone

    Now this is something to tune a show out over. Not because the show has a same-sex couple or interracial couple and and you don’t like it!
    And yes, I have heard of some adults hiring children prositutes in real life, but do we really need to see that level of a dysfunction played out on a soap opera? Unless, this results in Sam actually being called on her bad judgement, I don’t see how it could become a good storyline.

  48. Avatar of mr.sam mccall1
    mr.sam mccall1

    [quote=js3557]From the script in 2005:

    “Sam: I think you do, ok? I think that the elephant in the room is called sex. Let’s face it. Nikolas has been in prison for, what, at least six months now. He’d be frustrated even if you hadn’t been raped, but you were. And you have kind of shut that part of yourself down —
    Emily: Yeah.
    Sam: So Nikolas is shutting that part of himself down so he doesn’t hurt any of your recovery. It’s a stalemate, Emily, and you are the only one who can break it.”

    Sam totally tells Emily that the problem in her relationship is not having sex with Nik. She even points out how horny he must be after 6 months in prison. She tells the rape victim to have sex to solve her relationship problems.[/quote]
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    You left out he part where Emily WANTED TO BE WITH NIK. That they wanted to make love that was the issue. She wanted to have sex she said so. Em was already talking to somebody about her rape she was moving past it. She was having nervous about going there with Nik and he was to.

    You also leave out the part were Sam told Em to trust in there love. It wasn’t about sex it was about love and being together cause thats what EM wanted. The clips show that.

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    mr.sam mccall1

    [quote=Dariclone]Now this is something to tune a show out over. Not because the show has a same-sex couple or interracial couple and and you don’t like it!
    And yes, I have heard of some adults hiring children prositutes in real life, but do we really need to see that level of a dysfunction played out on a soap opera? Unless, this results in Sam actually being called on her bad judgement, I don’t see how it could become a good storyline.[/quote]
    It’s about tossing Sam under the bus thats what it’s for. Sam was the main person who said Michael needed help back when he was talking to a “friend” he couild only see. Sam told Alexis that Khristina needed help but nooo. It’s BS to fit Guza’s agenda.

  50. Avatar of js3557
    js3557

    Emily wanted to be with Nik, but she clearly wasn’t ready (as you can see in the after clip where she talks about not being able to orgasm). Sam basically told Emily, the victim, that she should sleep with Nik to make things better. Fortunately things worked out okay for Em, but it could have ended very badly. Her advice should have been keep up the counseling and you will know when you are ready to be intimate again. If she really wanted Em to trust in Nik’s love, she would have told her to trust in their love and believe that she didn’t have to have sex to get over their intimacy problems. That’s what I see in the clips.

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    blackjack21

    so i have to ask since it’s only been slightly referred to: why is this such an uproar when max and milo did the same thing for michael for his birthday?

    is it purely sam hate?

    is it because she’s female?

    is it a boys will be boys thing?

    i don’t get it.

  52. Avatar of js3557
    js3557

    Max and Milo did not do this for Michael’s bday. When Max was drunk as Jake’s he said he should have done it for his bday because he was going to prison for so long. Max was drunk, didn’t really do anything (was just rambling due to guilt), and Michael had not been raped/assaulted.

    This looks like (and I understand that it might not happen the way it looks now) Sam, completely sober, actually does gets a hooker for a kid so he can get over being traumatized by a sexual assault.

    If Max had in fact gotten a hooker for Michael, I still would have thought it was illegal, immoral and inappropriate.

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    Japan818

    ok honestly i am a jasam♥ fan. i am a little disappointed with this storyline but we’ll see how it goes. i really hope it doesn’t blow up.

    and the arguing about sam and liz. i not liz’s fan recently. i think she is one heck of a mother and friend and the writers should write her better stories. and sam i think is very resourceful. she is strong. and fun to watch. the writers have been writing aweful storylines for them.

    sam is not sleazy. just had to add that in.

  54. Avatar of blackjack21
    blackjack21

    ok thanks – i don’t get to see every episode. but i will argue at this point no one knows what happened to michael in jail so holding sam accountable for information she doesn’t have seems silly to me.

    and no i don’t think anyone getting hookers ever is a good idea, but i’ll reserve judgement til it plays out.

    i’m a sam fan and plan on staying that way.

  55. Avatar of GHvetfan
    GHvetfan

    I don’t think it is about Sam hate. I am sure that is a factor for some but Sam is female. I don’t know about other women. I only know myself and I expect more from women than I do men. Max was drunk and men tend to think sex solves problems. Max doesn’t know that Michael has been assaulted. Sam is supposed to have an inkling. I agree with js3557 that Sam was recommending sex to Emily after her rape. Sam has a long history of using sex to solve problems. She was a con when she arrived in Port Charles and set out to seduce Jax. She was a con who seduced and married men for money. Her knee jerk reaction to get revenge on Alexis and Jason was to sleep with Rik. Her knee jerk reaction to get revenge on Jason and Liz was to sleep with Lucky. This isn’t new

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    samrocks

    Sam is supposed to have an inkling.

    Sam is one of the few characters whose scenes I consistently watch, and TPTB have yet to indicate that anyone other than Jason has any idea that something other than a fight took place.

    Also, when mentioning how Sam handles sex, people should remember the most recent example: she tried to talk Krissy out of sleeping with Keifer, and they had multiple scenes where she explained the importance of realizing your own self-worth, rather than relying on a man. I know that many disagree with Sam’s actions (and/or general personality) – both past and present – but I think it’s unfair to twist words from 2005 while completely overlooking those from this very year.

  57. Avatar of GHvetfan
    GHvetfan

    Samrocks – There was a scene last week or the week before where Sam touched Michael and he flinched. That is what I was referencing.

    I tend to fast forward a lot of Sam scenes but the thing I remember about her talks with Krissy was that she took her to get birth control and didn’t tell Alexis. I am sure if you say that Sam advised Krissy against sex that it happened as I tend to trust your observations bu I would want my family to let me know if my daughter was needing my attention. My daughter would always come to me though.

  58. Avatar of GHFan777
    GHFan777

    I think the reason why Sam would make such a bad decision for Michael all stems from her own inability to know what is good for herself. Look how she allows people to treat her…including Jason.

    The character of Sam had potential to be a good character, but during the past few years, the writers have systematically ruined her. It all started with the kidnapping, and infamous park terrorizing incident with Elizabeth and her kids. They also created a horrible back story for her character at this very same time. She supposedly had five ex-husbands…who she married for their money, and then the subsequent murder of the last one. She then proceeded to be portrayed as a jealous ex lover, who would stop at nothing, in her revenge on Jason and Elizabeth…even sleeping with Lucky out of spite. At this time her character was forever lost to me.

    What I don’t get, is how people see her as working so well with Jason. She can’t even walk in her own boots without injuring herself. She is a terrible shot with a gun, and she constantly needs to be rescued. To me she is totally incompetent as a PI,… let alone a ride or die chick. The only way she works, is she apparently doesn’t expect anything from him. Jason seems happy with the way this stands also. He can go about doing what he needs to do, and he doesn’t need to get her approval. Even when she does tell him no, he still does it anyway… so what is the point.

    Now Sam no longer seems to have any backbone. She is willing to accept any crumb of attention from Jason, and doesn’t seem to be bothered by his lack of regard for her. She appears to accept how others will always come first with Jason. I am sorry, but that is not how a couple in love is supposed to act. Sam suffers from low self esteem, and does not appear to have any of her own dreams and goals. To me,… she is a very sad character, and I personally don’t understand how the writers of this show think people will care about her…when its obvious that she does not care about herself.

    Sam has no clue what is good for Michael, because she doesn’t even know what is good for herself.

  59. Avatar of blackjack21
    blackjack21

    my bottom line is that i will forever defend sam and flove her.

    i’m interested though how much of this dialogue isn’t focused on michael’s violent response. whether or not he’s told anyone about what may or may not have happened, everyone, everyone has seen that he no longer responds positively to physical contact whether it’s his own or someone else’s.

    a few have mentioned how he could respond like this in the wake of krissy’s abuse, but i think this is really where the conversation could be focused.

    he’s been violent since he got out of the coma and he’s just a time bomb. people other than sam should be paying more attention. i mean jason takes off – understandable, but dante is his legal guardian and he’s in Ireland? so an 18 year old who’s on probation is living by himself with no supervision? where are all the adults in this kid’s life?

    i think we can all agree getting a hooker is a dumb idea even if the idea comes from a misguided attempt to help.

  60. Avatar of GHvetfan
    GHvetfan

    Today’s episode has Sam trying to get Michael to talk so she knows something is up. I was thinking it wasn’t a very clever aproach just because Michael has seen Jason and knows he is fine. Jason doesn’t normally open up so he certainly wouldn’t project any difficulty and he was training Michael to handle himself. Michael knows Jason can handle himself. It was nice that Sam tried but it was a silly attempt.

    When is this hooker biz? Was that her only attempt to get him to talk?

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