Ratings, Rants and Raves: Shadam Sex Better Than Viagra For Young and Restless Ratings



If loving Shadam (Sharon Case and Michael Muhney) is wrong, The Young and the Restless fans (including this one) don’t wanna be right! The inappropriate-yet-red hot pairing getting sleazy in the Big Easy helped Y&R go up 115,000 total viewers the week of Nov. 29–Dec. 3, 2010 (Source: Soap Operas Network). Y&R was up total viewers year-to-date by 227,000! The sudser also went up one-tenth of a point in households and among women 18-49.


Y&R’s sister soap, The Bold and the Beautiful,  benefited from the former’s ratings surge. While B&B fell 43,000 total viewers over the previous week, the sudser managed to go up one-tenth of a point in households and among women 18-49. We can’t give all the credit to Y&R, however, thanks to the combustible chemistry between Mr. Adam Gregory (Thomas) and  Ms. Katherine Kelly Lang (Brooke)!  I am so ready for Brooke to do a crotch fitting of Tom’s trousers, I don’t know what to do!

It was also a good week for Days of Our Lives. The NBC sudser added 118,000 total viewer over the previous week. DAYS also went up one-tenth of a point in households and among women 18-49. DAYS was pretty much jam-packed with action the week of Nov. 29-Dec. 3. EJ (James Scott) got his spawn back, Aunt Viv (Louise Sorel) wanted revenge on those who entombed her, Carly (Crystal Chappell) injected herself with a virus to save her daughter, etc. It looks like it all worked together to draw in lapsed viewers. For my money, the credit goes to the best supercouple DAYS has done in a dog’s age — Victor (John Aniston) and Maggie (Suzanne Rogers)!

Over at the House-o-Mouse, General Hospital went up 78,000 total viewers over the previous week. The soap opera held steady at a 1.8 in households (tied with All My Children and One Life to Live), but went up one-tenth of a point among women 18-49. Am I the only one who thinks these numbers are a bit anemic for GH? I mean don’t get me wrong, the show is at Number 2 in the all-important Women 18-49 demo, but for GH to have ratings that are consistently on par with two soaps on the same network that have a fraction of GH’s budget, promotion and star power has me wondering why the soap isn’t giving up more bang for its buck these days? An A-list movie star is guest starring frequently, Vanessa Marcil Giovinazzo is back as Brenda, so why is GH basically flat ratings-wise? Oh well, Sonny (Maurice Benard) and Brenda’s date was adorable, wasn’t it?

OLTL lost  8,000 total viewers over the previous week. The soap held steady in households and among women 18-49, tied at its all-time low rating in that demo for the second week in a row. I am enjoying the heck outta OLTL again. Mean, old nasty Clint (Jerry verDorn), Hot Mess Echo (Kim Zimmer) and pervy-good-fun Eddie Ford (John Wesley Shipp) have made Llanview my go-to soap city again. It’s too bad OLTL is killing off Eddie. I think he could be slightly reformed and paired with someone like Dorian (Robin Strasser) or Echo and it would be a hoot, but then again, beating up on your kid is pretty much irredeemable.
 
(Jamey’s other personality Countess Wilhemina Von Schtupptenham takes possession of his mind and keyboard.)

Countess Wilhemina Von Schtupptenham: Vait a minute, didn’t vou write about how HAWT dis Shadam was on Zee Young and Zee Restless earlier een dis post? Did not dis Adam steal Sharon’s zee baby and made her tink zee baby was zee dead? Yet vou still vant to see vat blind zee pervert penetrate her five days zee week? No?

Okay, I’m a walking contradiction. Sue me! All My Kids lost 142,000 total viewers over the previous week. AMC was down year-to-date 345,000. The soap held steady in households, but was the only daytime drama to fall among the coveted demo of women 18-49. Is there any wonder I’m hearing Brian Frons is looking to replace Kreizman and Swajeski, STAT! Oops, did I just type that?! Please disregard.  See you next ratings cycle!

Numbers are based on Live+Same Day ratings

Ratings for the week November 29 – December 3, 2010

(Compared to Last Week/Compared to Last Year)

Total Viewers
1. Y&R 5,052,000 (+115,000/+227,000)
2. B&B 3,071,000 (-43,000/-103,000)
3. DAYS 2,580,000 (+118,000/-210,000)
4. GH 2,500,000 (+78,000/+3,000)
5. OLTL 2,349,000 (-8,000/-62,000)
6. AMC 2,301,000 (-142,000/-345,000)

HH
1. Y&R 3.5/12 (+.1/same)
2. B&B 2.2/8 (+.1/-.1)
3. DAYS 1.9/6 (+.1/-.1)
4. AMC 1.8/6 (same/-.1)
4. GH 1.8/6 (same/-.1)
4. OLTL 1.8/6 (same/same)

Women 18-49 Viewers
1. Y&R 1,093,000 (+46,000/-36,000)
2. GH 769,000 (+48,000/-74,000)
3. DAYS 745,000 (+53,000/-47,000)
4. B&B 681,000 (+70,000/-61,000)
5. OLTL 610,000 (-15,000/-94,000)
6. AMC 543,000 (-22,000/-144,000)

Women 18-49 Rating
1. Y&R 1.7/11 (+.1/same)
2. GH 1.2/7 (+.1/-.1)
3. DAYS 1.1/7 (+.1/-.1)
4. B&B 1.0/7 (+.1/-.1)
5. OLTL 0.9/6 (same/-.2) <- ties low rating (2nd straight week)
6. AMC 0.8/5 (-.1/-.2) <- ties low rating (Last time: November 8-12, 2010)

Girls 12-17 Viewers
1. DAYS 25,000 (same/+2,000)
1. Y&R 25,000 (-40,000/-1,000)
3. GH 22,000 (+5,000/-25,000)
4. B&B 14,000 (-22,000/-3,000)
5. AMC 12,000 (-3,000/+4,000)
5. OLTL 12,000 (-11,000/-5,000)

Women 18-34 Rating
1. Y&R 1.1/7 (+.1/+.1)
2. DAYS 0.7/5 (same/-.2)
2. GH 0.7/4 (+.1/-.3)
4. B&B 0.6/4 (same/same)
5. OLTL 0.5/4 (same/-.3) <- ties low rating (2nd straight week)
5. AMC 0.5/3 (same/-.3) <- ties low rating (7th straight week)

Men 18+ Viewers
1. Y&R 1,259,000 (+84,000/+138,000)
2. B&B 682,000 (-23,000/-9,000)
3. DAYS 599,000 (+19,000/+45,000)
4. GH 492,000 (+25,000/+35,000)
5. AMC 448,000 (-71,000/-108,000)
6. OLTL 426,000 (-6,000/+12,000)

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Day-To-Day Ratings – HH/Total Viewers

AMC
Monday: 1.9/2,509,000
Tuesday: 1.8/2,347,000
Wednesday: 1.7/2,226,000
Thursday: 1.7/2,221,000
Friday: 1.7/2,201,000

B&B
Monday: 2.3/3,173,000
Tuesday: 2.4/3,393,000
Wednesday: 2.1/2,932,000
Thursday: 2.0/2,866,000
Friday: 2.1/2,992,000

DAYS
Monday: 2.0/2,745,000
Tuesday: 1.9/2,559,000
Wednesday: 2.0/2,671,000
Thursday: 1.8/2,520,000
Friday: 1.7/2,405,000

GH
Monday: 2.0/2,712,000
Tuesday: 1.8/2,519,000
Wednesday: 1.7/2,407,000
Thursday: 1.9/2,527,000
Friday: 1.7/2,334,000

OLTL
Monday: 2.0/2,627,000
Tuesday: 1.8/2,342,000
Wednesday: 1.7/2,367,000
Thursday: 1.7/2,252,000
Friday: 1.6/2,158,000

Y&R
Monday: 3.9/5,534,000
Tuesday: 3.7/5,263,000
Wednesday: 3.5/5,004,000
Thursday: 3.4/4,832,000
Friday: 3.2/4,630,000

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For the SEASON September 20, 2010 through December 5, 2010

HH
1. Y&R 3.6
2. B&B 2.3
3. GH 2.0
4. DAYS 1.9
5. AMC 1.8
5. OLTL 1.8

Women 18-49 Rating
1. Y&R 1.7
2. GH 1.4
3. DAYS 1.2
4. OLTL 1.0
4. B&B 1.0
6. AMC 0.9

51 Responses

  1. Profile photo of Nekeeta Borden
    Nekeeta Borden

    LOL @ AlistairCrane!  After rewatching that episode on YouTube, I just know that Adam either paid that tarot woman to feed Sharon a bogus reading or he eavesdropped and got that information to convince her that he was her destiny. 

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    alstonboy4315

    AMC’s ratings deserve to plummet. This show is TERRIBLE. Not as bad as it was during Pratt’s reign of torture, but damned close!!

    I think that watching Shadam onscreen was like a TRAIN WRECK, and therefore………I couldn’t stop watching!! Of course, it’s nothing short of CHARACTER assassination, makes NO sense, is a complete slap in the face of history and is ALSO a complete slap in the face of all the SHICK fans out there (which I no longer qualify as, thank you ;) ;) ), but someone over there at Y&R realized that it had been a whole TEN seconds since the LAST shock value train rolled through Genoa City. So they decided to pull out all the stops………………

    I actually am enjoying Sharon’s fall from grace. The character had been too perfect for too long. And now she gets to feel what it’s like to be hated by people!!! I kinda like this twist, actually!! ;) ;)

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    Duchess

    I think a lot of the ratings bump for Y&R is from the NOLA location shoot. The Shadam sex had me reaching for the vomit bucket, but I wanted to see NOLA and the other big things going on last week. I actually expected a bigger bump with the shoot combined with things like Skye appearing alive, Nikki/Victor’s faceoff, and Y&R’s main players in NOLA. Y&R has had much bigger bumps than that this year after Adam’s return this summer, the Villy wedding a few months ago, and an almost 300k gain for a week in August when the promo was all about Villy being rebels defying their rival families and having shower sex. I actually think it’s troubling that their ratings went from a 3.9 at the beginning of the week down to a 3.2 at the end of the week. But I’m still glad ratings rose because that’s always a good thing in soaps today :)

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    Jamey Giddens

    I guess I see Shadam a lot different than most. It’s gothic, shockingly-inappropriate, wrong on so many levels, which is why it makes it so hot. Luke and Laura, Roger and Holly, Carl and Rachel, these were all pairings where the male did unspeakable things to the female, yet the chemistry was palpable. I see that with Shadam. As for Sharon’s character, while I totally agree she’s been topsy turvy for years, she has loved herself some panic sex since Diego. The girl likes to drop her draws when she gets confused. LOL

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    thecourt99

    Well…i finally stopped watching and I haven’t seen anything to compel me to watch again.

    I don’t like nuSharon
    I don’t like nu Victor
    I don’t like wimpy nuLauren
    No longer like Jill
    Winters are never on TV
    I don’t like nuVictoria

    Essentially, all my faves are no longer likeable because they all became one note and out of character. I am a fan of Holly and Roger, but not Sham. Chemistry aside, I never saw them fall in love to buy this as a love story. Sharon only defaulted Adam when Nick was otherwise occupied before they got married the first time. I never saw Sharon choose Adam, and I never saw Adam use Sharon for anything more than getting under Nick’s skin.

    Sharon has panic sex, but I never saw her really get mad at Adam for what he did to Faith. She barely wanted to testify against him and it was fresh.

    So hotness? yes. Love. No.

    Holly and Roger aren’t comparable to me. I SAW Holly in love with Roger. I SAW Roger fight his nature to be worthy of Holly and lose. I saw Holly HATE Roger. I saw the extreme emotions develop over time and I believed in the struggle. Sham is rushed, and the emotions aren’t believable to me because they aren’t based in anything.

    At least someone enjoys the show now.

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    tedew

    alstonboy4315 … I’m still seeing Sharon rising as a phoenix rather than suffering a fall from grace and Adam redeemed after all of this is said and done. This sort of scenario is certainly not something new to daytime, prime time or movies and will keep going on until December 12, 2012.

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    josser

    Brian Frons deserves a lot of credit for trying to preserve his 3 soaps. He has over the last year made considerable financial investments in GH and AMC. Frons takes a lot of heat from his critics, deservedly so. (AMC is the best looking soap on daytime. It’s sets are beautiful. The homes of the wealthy citizens of Pine Valley look incredible, especially compared to the crummy sets of the Y&R gives to its billionaires Victor Newman and Katherine Chancellor.)

    But, looking at GH and AMC, the problem lies not in the actors or production values, it lies in the writing:

    1) GH’s head writers botched Brenda’s return. What should have been exciting, thrilling, and magical turned into blah-whatever. Really, why create a super villain and name him “the Balkan”? Is anyone not tired of hearing “the Balkan” uttered in terror by nearly every one in Port Charles?

    Then there’s the disaster known as Franco. What a mess. While I admire James Franco and ABC for trying to bring the actor onto the show, couldn’t they come up with a better storyline? And, James Franco, has he never heard of coffee? He practically slept through most of his initial run.

    2) AMC’s head writers, God love ‘em, have done some good things, like giving Angie and Jesse a front burner story, but the show lacks zest!

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    beans4metoo

    Please PUHLEEZE Jamey, tell me that the ONLY way you are comparing Shadam to Luke and Laura is in the man did unspeakable things to woman but she loved him way. BECAUSE, there is NO way now or EVER that Adam and Sharon will be comparable to the love of Luke and Laura.

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    east.west

    Who will be the recycled writer that will get the AMC job? I bet it’ll be Josh Griffith since he fits the mold of the interchangeable writers coming on to write. I do think it is disappointing that D&D are possibly out of a job. I don’t think the show is that bad and I think their possibly ousting is a result of the overall mess going on at the show as opposed to their work. I am their lone defender and I say when their hearts are in it they are great writers. I think, if the show’s days are numbered, they should do what OLTL did and promote from w/in and call it a day.

    As for Sharon/Adam on Y&R, Michael Muhney is the new star of that show and they have fans. Meh!

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    beans4metoo

    I actually am LOVING AMC right now. I used to record it and DREAD trying to get through a weeks episodes. Now, I watch an eppy everyday.
    I LOVE JR and Annie- my one complaint being they need to show them more
    I LOVE LOVE the new Jake/Amanda/Griffin/Cara storyline..Jake and Amanda are one of my fav couples and I’m glad to see them get a frontburner story.
    I am LOVING the way Zach’s death has been handled. Alicia Minshew BETTER be up for an emmy for her work.
    I’m excited for the new Scott to come on b/c I love Daniel Cosgrove and can’t wait to see he and JR at each other’s throats.
    I actually like Caleb and Asher. I was getting tired of Damon and Colby so I’m interested in her with Asher but I wish they would’ve kept Damon and done a triangle or put him with Liza.
    I’m loving the Madison pregnancy twist and how it’ll play into Rylee and Frankie/Randy. I’m hoping for a Frankie/Madison pairing.

    Let me say ONE thing that I LOVE about AMC which I don’t really get from any other soap on air right now is that the residents of PineValley (for the most part) really care about each other and are friends and that is shown. The stories aren’t islanded like you get on other soaps. Like Tad comforting Kendall at Krystal’s. They were paying homage to Tad and Zach’s history and friendship. And mentioning Myrtle and Zach’s friendship at the memorial. And everyone ending up at Krystal’s for a big Thanksgiving. With AMC I get the feeling that everyone in PineValley is family and when it comes down to it, they got each other’s backs. Even as mad as everyone has been at Liza the past year or so..when Zach died, Tad comforted her. She and Tad are done and he’s been furious with her, but when she was down and alone and grieving he was there and AMC payed homage to the love and friendship that he and Liza have had for YEARS. I don’t get this feeling from other soaps where everyone is always fighting, scheming and trying to kill each other. YES, you see those things on AMC too, but at the end of the day, with PineValley I get the feeling of family, friendship and loyalty.

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    SoapFan75

    Shadam is must see t.v. Yes, it is wrong but I am watching whenever they are on and I only watch Y&R for them. Not really surprised that DOOL went up, you touched on the two highlights of the week Jamey, the virus story featuring Carly, Daniel and Melanie and Vivian. I wouldn’t include EJ/Sami/Rafe which was the same old thing: EJ ranting and flailing like an idiot, Sami blubbering and Rafe mumbling. B&B is what it is. As for the also rans: I think GH has pretty much peaked. I think the viewers that were going to return for Jesus, er, Brenda have returned, OLTL and AMC are battling for the bottom but AMC really is bleeding out viewers. What will it take for Fronsie to wake up about this show? Yes, I blame it all on Rylee, I cannot remember viewers tuning out a pairing as badly as this one. Also I would assume that November sweeps are officially over now, right? Given the overall November numbers, I would say it was just a so-so to bad ratings sweep period for all.

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    Parcrastinator

    I have to disagree about the mini ratings surge for Days this week, being attributable to Victor and Maggie. The promo for the week, was for The Virus storyline (the first promo that CC’s been in since Feb, when Days was experiencing their rating peaks for the year. hummmmm). The virus storyline, which played out Mon-Wed, had an avg of 2.0 and 2,658,000 viewers. The ratings then dropped for Thursday and Friday, with Friday (which SOW announced as a Do Not Miss Friday, due to Maggie confronting Victor over Vivian) having the worst ratings of the week at 1.7 and 2,405,000 viewers.

    One can only imagine how awesome Days sweeps numbers would have been, if they’d let the Virus storyline play out for a few weeks vs 3 days and involved more of Salem vs just Carly, Dan, Melanie and Nathan. Days seriously needs to stop undervaluing CC.

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    Katiebug9624

    I agree Parcrastinator Days should of ran with the virus storyline it would of been so much better if an actual outbreak took place that involved the whole cast. Not the same ole Sami/EJ/Rafe crap we get every sweeps.

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    AlistairCrane

    I don’t like the way Days has assassinated Victor and Caroline’s love story in favour of Maggie. I’ve ALWAYS been a Caroctor shipper, even when Grampa Shawn is alive, and ultimately I want them to end up together and married. Bring back Don Craig for Maggie.

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    AlistairCrane

    Shadam is disgusting because it’s like he’s taking advantage of a mentally-retarded 7-year old. THAT is what Sharon has become. It’s sickening, and not in a “sexy”, “Gothic” way either.

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    Restless Vixen

    I’m with you Jamey. Shadam are hot because they are all kinds of wrong. If loving them is wrong, well I don’t wanna be right. Plus, the chemistry don’t lie. Muhney and Case set the screen on fiyah! It did matter to me if they were in the NOLA or in a chicken coop in the country. I could watch MM’s Adam read a phone all day and SC’s Sharon has chemistry with just about every actor on the show, including MS’s Phyllis. I have mental fan fiction about Pharon from when they were Nick’s sister-wives trying to prove his innocence.

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    Mobb Ish

    The Court99….You are 100% correct! I’ve been saying this the whole time. This is not a love story, these are two mentally ill people and Adam tells her all the time how strong she is, is just another way for him to manipulate her unstable self! I FFWD thru everything Shadam!

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    stoney07

    Y&R is great right now. They are incorporating the black actors into the stories slowly now…and I’m seeing them more and more. Adam/Sharon, I don’t particularly care for or HATE. I don’t see what makes THIS pairing any different from any others…Everyone sees something different. Some may not see chemistry between the two, while others DO. It doesn’t make the pairing “disgusting” just because some don’t buy the chemistry. It’s controversial definitely. However, I think Y&R is the best it’s been in a few years IMO. And I’m thoroughly enjoying most of the stories. EVEN the Daisy story isn’t as repulsive as it was the first time around.

    SideNote….does Y&R seem so much better without Victor Newman to anyone else but me? These past few days where he’s been MIA have been absolutely incredible, and an ensemble effort. WE see Phyllis, Sharon, Adam, Katherine, Jill, Cane, Lily, Sophia, Malcolm, Abby, Daniel, Daisy, Lauren, Michael, etc….and half of those we hardly EVER see.

    Stay away Victor!!! *Ducks*

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    coolblue

    I think OLTL was the best soap during Nov. sweeps. and it is my must see soap above all others. Y&R did go on location and I enjoy most of the characters and stories right now. The total opposite is and has been happening on GH for a while now. Even before VMG’s return was announced the writing sucked and has not improved at all.

    I love listening to the DC podcasts and agree with the statement that certain actors/actresses can turn “shit into sugar”. I have not heard anyone from GH be put into that category and do not expect to hear it. GH has a very talented cast but even the best on GH cannot turn the crap into anything else. The Balkan could have been a good story but now I read that Guza is re-writing it because the Balkan’s identity was leaked. Of course GH does have the most ‘insiders’ leaking information so I take that with a GOS(grain of salt) just like all other GH rumors. I miss the good show GH used to be.

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    AlistairCrane

    Victor and CAROLINE, dammit!!!!

    stoney, you’re not the only one who thinks Y&R is a lot better when Eric Braeden and his ego aren’t eating up the show. I loved last year when he was off-screen for three months.

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    keanna

    As always great ratings article, Jamey!!!!!!

    Glad to see Days went up, seeing Viv at her vixen best love it. I am actually liking Victor and Maggie, I didn’t think I would. Can’t wait to see Carrie and perhaps Austin back.

    As for the ABC Soaps:

    AMC, I understand why some of you think it’s horrible, and you know what there is some truth to it. Rylee is bad as a couple, agreed. They could’ve done a better Jesse/Angie storyline, agreed. Tad should have his own storyline, agreed. But there are some good points: Love Jannie, loving Griffin (and Jordi), liking Cara (Lindsey Hartley, who debuted this week.) Loving Reverend Torres (Eddie Matos, handsome as always),can’t wait for Daniel Cosgrove to start as Scott, and I am actually forward to seeing what Sarah Glendening as Marissa.

    Fronsie looking to replace Swajewski and Kriezman? Fine, but he needs to realize it’s not just the writers, it’s him as well, he needs to back off.
    Or even better Anne Sweeney needs to use her power and fire Frons, stat!!!!

    OLTL,
    Loving it, loving the new darker Clint, and I am with you Jamey, I wish they would keep John Wesley Shipp and see Eddie reformed, but you’re right once you abuse your child, that ship has sailed. And with all the national pub it’s getting, it’s great to be a OLTL fan.

    GH,
    Where to begin, let’s see Balkan storyline, garbage. Johnny and Olivia, glad they broke them up for good. They’re writing Robin like she’s completely incompetent. I don’t like Siobhan, sorry I don’t. Where’s Alexis??? Sonny and Brenda as much as I liked them years ago, they seemed forced. Why is Claire and Lisa still around???? And I am sorry, but as nice as Abby seems, Michael should be confiding to a therapist.

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    shargem69

    Brian Frons really needs to be replaced, as does Guza on GH. I think OLTL has gotten better. They still have their low moments when they focus too much on the Ford family, other newbies, Kelly and the teens. But, overall the renewed focus on vets, John and Natalie and classic Bo vs. Clint rivalry is working in my opinion. Today was prime example of how GREAT that show can be again…it was a great cliffhanger Friday and for once, it’s not just about the performances by great actors…the writing was solid too. As for GH, BF should be replaced for the mere fact that Guza has been hacking away at this soap for over a decade. GH used to be the #1 soap- in ratings and quality. It may be #2 in ratings, but OLTL and AMC are catching up – and as you pointed out, they have a fraction of the budgets and “star power.” GH never makes progress…they stay steady only because the viewers – like myself- have an unhealthy attachment to the soap because it was once so great and the actors are great. But, we will only hang on for so long. The writing is a joke and even worse, it’s very character destructive..the worse kind of writing. If BF was smart, he’d kick Guza to the curb and get himself some fresh talent who really understands soaps and respects the history of this show.

    As for CBS soaps, I’m sadly a little bored of Bold and the Beautiful– I’m tired of seeing so much of Ridge and Brooke! I am really excited about Tristan Rogers joining Y&R…and I’m starting to get into this show!

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    SoapFan75

    [quote=Parcrastinator]I have to disagree about the mini ratings surge for Days this week, being attributable to Victor and Maggie. The promo for the week, was for The Virus storyline (the first promo that CC’s been in since Feb, when Days was experiencing their rating peaks for the year. hummmmm). The virus storyline, which played out Mon-Wed, had an avg of 2.0 and 2,658,000 viewers. The ratings then dropped for Thursday and Friday, with Friday (which SOW announced as a Do Not Miss Friday, due to Maggie confronting Victor over Vivian) having the worst ratings of the week at 1.7 and 2,405,000 viewers. One can only imagine how awesome Days sweeps numbers would have been, if they’d let the Virus storyline play out for a few weeks vs 3 days and involved more of Salem vs just Carly, Dan, Melanie and Nathan. Days seriously needs to stop undervaluing CC.[/quote]

    You’re preaching to the choir Parcrastinator.

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    AlistairCrane

    Since everyone knows Bo and Hope will eventually get back together, do you think Carly should get involved with a woman when that day comes? Do you think it would have a positive impact on Days’ ratings?

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    Katiebug9624

    Hey I just mentioned the other day that Jennifer and Carly looked like they could of jumped each other when Jenn was visiting her at the hospital.

    Honestly though I think Crystal could pull it off, although I don’t know if Days writers could. Crystal seems to have chemistry with a rock so anyone they put her with would be gold.

    I do think that Days viewers seem to be more….younger than GL’s (thats not meant to be a bad thing) and they don’t have the P&G stigma over their heads so I don’t think it would of caused quite a stir. Plus the character of Carly hasnt been in as many relationships as Olivia had, and I bought her falling for Natalia. So if the writing is there then I think Days could benefit.

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    EricasEvilTwin

    Keanna your post is exactly whats wrong with AMC..look at your list of things you like – they almost exclusively involve newbies. I havent seen Jessie and Angie in weeks and the story has been weak, but I see caleb and asher and griffin and cara and the reverend discussed or on screen pretty much every day.I’m all for new blood but not at the expense of the characters I watch for. Plus the pace of the show needs to pick up drastically.

    GH ratings are anemic. Anything sort of being hot on the heals of B&B is a fail in my book. If they actually wrote stories that make sense and gave us a little real romance once in a while, I think things would improve. Maybe Guza needs a co-writer to balance him out.

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    Parcrastinator

    [quote=AlistairCrane]Since everyone knows Bo and Hope will eventually get back together, do you think Carly should get involved with a woman when that day comes? Do you think it would have a positive impact on Days’ ratings?[/quote]
    I wouldn’t be opposed. Only problem is, I think the woman Carly has the red hot chemistry with, is Hope. :) Every scene that KA and CC are in together is must see for me. It’s why it’s so annoying, that the writers have made such a mess out of this triangle. So much chemistry on all 3 sides of this triangle, yet they squandered it.

    I like Carly with Jenn too, but they’ll never go there either. I think if they hooked Carly up with a woman, Chloe would be the one, and I can’t imagine any great ratings increase with that pairing. CC and Nadia are actually very adorably flirty with each other in real life, but it hasn’t translated into sizzling chemistry on screen as Carly and Chloe unfortunately.

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    troymcclure

    [quote=EricasEvilTwin]Keanna your post is exactly whats wrong with AMC..look at your list of things you like – they almost exclusively involve newbies. I havent seen Jessie and Angie in weeks and the story has been weak, but I see caleb and asher and griffin and cara and the reverend discussed or on screen pretty much every day.I’m all for new blood but not at the expense of the characters I watch for. Plus the pace of the show needs to pick up drastically.
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    What the heck is AMC supposed to do when Debbie Morgan apparently has some issues she has to take care of and is taking time off?

    I welcome the new blood on AMC, the cast was so small and I think Griffin, Cara and the hot rev has been a welcome adrenaline kick.

    I’ll probably get stoned for this but I really don’t think DK and DS is doing that bad of a job on AMC.

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    DaytimeFan0001

    Ohhhh AMC. I don’t know whether to applaud Frons for looking to replace those two clowns…or if he should be hit across the head! HELLO! You should have never hired them in the first place!! Big deal, he won 1 Emmy for GL but come on. The whole industry knows the last years of GL were dreadful and poor. I’ve said this for YEARS- DK is a writer, but NOT a head writer.

    Good news for Y&R and most soaps though!

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    Cyberologist

    [quote=Jamey Giddens]I guess I see Shadam a lot different than most. It’s gothic, shockingly-inappropriate, wrong on so many levels, which is why it makes it so hot. Luke and Laura, Roger and Holly, Carl and Rachel, these were all pairings where the male did unspeakable things to the female, yet the chemistry was palpable. I see that with Shadam. As for Sharon’s character, while I totally agree she’s been topsy turvy for years, she has loved herself some panic sex since Diego. The girl likes to drop her draws when she gets confused. LOL[/quote]

    I agree this is what I watch soaps for this ain’t “Little House on the Prairie” when I want sweetness and light characters skipping through tulips in a rainbow covered sky I know where to go. Part of the genre has always been down and dirty.

    …They smoked …Sharon Case is one of the few on daytime that can work a love scene and so can Michael Muhney it was well done. I think they have insane chemistry…and the storyline is good not that superficial nonsense they did with Elizabeth/Nikolas with almost the same scenario what a huge difference in the writing in these two fall from grace storylines. Y/R isn’t a hatchet job so their selected character can shine while throwing other character under a freight train.

    IA,the NO location is breathtakingly beautiful the perfect backdrop for a love scene and also responsible for the hike.

    Hey they did show Black folk Jamey..LoL the carriage driver and the funeral…

    But the difference for me is the writing how I bought everything Adam was selling, he’s a good rapper…and you’ve said they played all or most of the beats in this story. This is what soap opera does best… Its time American soaps get back to what made them soap operas in the first place. All Sharon said is Adam didn’t do this and I know Skye isn’t dead and is faking her death.

    Yes he did a dastardly deed I agree he’s nefarious but this is what makes the story for me, its a bad romance.

    Also in my interpretation, this storyline is about redemption so I find redemption storylines challenging…”how or if” I could forgive this character, a man who has done something so horrific as faking a child’s death and giving the baby to someone else. Is this redemption working? I saw a sly smile from Adam when he was being released so for a moment I thought he was playing her. Either way whether he’s been reformed or not “its a good story” and that is what I watch soaps for “the stories.” Also Sharon will be ostracized so this is another good part of the story for me. I don’t like the part of her forsaking her children and choosing Adam over them but this is part of them becoming the town’s pariahs.

    I am impressed with Tristan’s Colin arrival as well this week and hope for a bump from his fans.

    I like Victor/Maggie as well…I enjoy their story immensely; I’m glad DOL doesn’t think their fans don’t want to see multi-generational love stories. I like to hear John Aniston say “Maggee” these are two of my favorite characters on daytime.

    I agree the virus could have lasted a tad longer. Tired of the EJ/Sammi here we go round the mulberry bush with those kids. I like Kate/DiMera interactions.

    I’m newly back into Days after an over the decade hiatus still learning but after being beat up and battered around by GH it feels good.

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    EricasEvilTwin

    Troy – What should they have done? Well, how about for starters they shouldnt have written David in to the corner that he is in now. They NEVER should have gone back to Rylee, they should have played up the Colby/Damon/Liza/Tad story, they should have had David given some redemption by being the one to cure Angie’s blindness (which could have been David maybe blackmailing jessie into losing some evidence in exchange for the cure and then played up Jesse having to deal with everyone praising David not knowing there was a quid pro quo.) etc. etc.

    I have no problem with new blood getting added, I think Griffin is a particularly interesting addition and nubianca was a homerun, but the fact that so much attention is being given to writing the newbies well, while characters like David, Jessie, tad, etc. are all languishing makes no sense.

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    keanna

    EricaEvilTwin, you’re right, but I like the newbies, but I am also with you, that one of the BIG problems is that there is lack of balance, but you can’t blame the newbies.

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    Keanna I dont blame the newbies, I blame the writers for only being interested in writing the newbies. Sorry but when I turn on the show and the bulk of the time is going to characters that have been on for less than a year, thats a problem. At least with the Ford brothers on OLTL, it seems that the writers listened – they scaled them back a bit and wove them in to story with popular vets. I was prepared to hate Kim Zimmers Echo mostly because I thought she would steal story from Robin strasser’s Dorian, and even though I am disappointed that so far the story has Dorian participating in rather than driving story, I like that Kim/Echo’s arrival has actually given me MORE of the characters I have loved all these years. More Viki, Clint and Dorian made me welcome Echo. Why in the heck are the writers interested in – just as an example – fleshing out the character of Caleb Cooney with so much relish, but they had no interest in writing a redemption story for david. I would buy a redeemed David being a rival to Jack in winning Erica more so than mountain man Cooney, who IMHO is nothing more than Jeff Martin all over again – take away the safari clothes and replace them with first plaid flannel and later oversized business suits and BINGO same character. Both ACTORS are talent but neither character has relevancy to the canvas.

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    [quote=EricasEvilTwin]Keanna I dont blame the newbies, I blame the writers for only being interested in writing the newbies. Sorry but when I turn on the show and the bulk of the time is going to characters that have been on for less than a year, thats a problem.[/quote]
    I watch AMC everyday and the newbies are in no way taking over the show. They are definitely not featured more than the vets (or characters that have been on longer than a year)
    The newbies on AMC are supporting characters in storylines involving the vets unlike OLTL who has familiar characters supporting the newbies and their storylines.

    Do we wanna talk about a newbie eating a show alive? [insert pic of Dante here]

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    EricasEvilTwin

    Absolutely Dante is eating GH alive, but you have to admit that Caleb and Asher are on TONS and now it looks like the cara and griffin are a. going to fill the zach void and b. will facilitate the exit (short term or long term) of amanda. I honestly feel like there seems to be more focus on these new characters (mostly Caleb) than characters like Jesse, Tad, Bianca, etc. JMHO

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    Cyberologist

    [quote=troymcclure][quote=EricasEvilTwin]Keanna I dont blame the newbies, I blame the writers for only being interested in writing the newbies. Sorry but when I turn on the show and the bulk of the time is going to characters that have been on for less than a year, thats a problem.[/quote]
    I watch AMC everyday and the newbies are in no way taking over the show. They are definitely not featured more than the vets (or characters that have been on longer than a year)
    The newbies on AMC are supporting characters in storylines involving the vets unlike OLTL who has familiar characters supporting the newbies and their storylines.

    Do we wanna talk about a newbie eating a show alive? [insert pic of Dante here][/quote]
    Thank you!! I’m sorry but I’m just sick of him its to the point I’ve tuned out half of what he says because I’ve got the remote in my hand switching the channel.

    Add Shioban, Lisa, (not as much recently but previously) Claire and you have another trifecta; GH is notorious for pimping and clubbing me to death with their agenda but shoving these newbies in top tier story is not what I want to see. I don’t mind new characters but its just too many in a short span of time…new faces won’t solve the problem of bad writing for me.

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    I agree with those of you that feel it is a turn off to have newbies overtake a show. However, I think that Troymcclure made an excellent point in differentiating between the NEWBIES supporting the vets and the VETS supporting the newbies. How the new actors/characters are used makes all the difference. And how good the storyline is makes all the difference as well.

    Take AMC for example. YEARS ago AMC went through another era where they issued in a ton of newbies that got alot of screen time and I quit watching for a while because I was sick of the new characters. At that time the new characters were Braeden, Jack’s little sister and one other guy. The whole show was taken over and I was not interested so I quit watching.

    Yes, there are ALOT of newbies on AMC right now but as Troy pointed out, they are supporting actors in the storylines given to VETS and IMHO the storylines are good right now. Griffin and Cara are on the show to support a front burning storyline for Amanda and Jake, two talented vets and favorite characters that were overdue for a story. Griffin is also rumored to be a possible love interest for Kendall. This was much needed as Thorston Kaye leaving is going to leave a huge hunky man void and there aren’t really any viable men on canvas to fit with Kendall at this time. Ok, Ryan, who TPTB are adament about shoving with Greenlee, but other than him, who is viable for Kendall? JR is already involved with Marissa and Annie (who JR and Annie seem to be the new super couple to be). Tad is too old and a family friend. David is too obsessed over Greenlee and everyone hates him. Jake is head over heels for Amanda and now dealing with Cara.
    Every other man on canvas is either too young or too old for Kendall. They needed to bring someone on for her to move onto when she is done grieving Zach. Otherwise, what would they do with the uber talented Alicia Minshew but show her once a week tending to her kids?

    Caleb and Asher may be taking over alot of screentime but their characters are paying homage to AMC history. By bringing on Caleb and Asher, AMC is accomplishing two things:
    1- Revisiting the history of the Cortland/Chandler feud that went on for years between Adam and Palmer by revisiting it with Jr/Caleb. It also gives Jacob Young a storyline which allows JR to become the new Adam since David Canary left the show. Canary leaving left a big void of having the big Adam Chandler scheming, always into something, villian we love to hate. This story allows JR to step into Adams shoes and carry on the Chandler villian history.
    2-Revists AMC’s and Erica’s history of having multiple men in her life and never being able to completely commit to Jack. Over the years she and Jack have been on and off, on and off. We all know Jack is the love of her life but AMC has a history of giving angst to that relationship, having Erica “choose” another man, then having her once again realize Jack is the one for her and fighting for him again. Caleb is to be that man for this year or so.

    I think that, yes, AMC has put alot of new characters on that get ALOT of screen time. But, I think that it has been done well and they have been incorporated into storylines that are interesting and that pay homage to history and allow the vets that are on canvas to have current and future storylines.

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    EricasEvilTwin

    Beans on paper that sounds good but JR could have had a fued with David or with Scott without adding the Cooneys. I dont have a problem with griffin or cara (yet) but IMO the Caleb character has been a fail and has been given way too much airtime. And yes, Jamanda has been overdue for a story, but so has Jessie and tad and now my beloved David has been written totally into a corner. I hate how they are writing Ryan, I hate how the are writing greenlee and I hate that Liza gets dumped on in virtually every storyline.

    Look back at my original post – I said when the newbies are the characters you like BEST thats a problem because in order for that to be true it tells me that the writers are invested in making those characters come alive at the expense of the characters we already love. If you ask me whats working I would say the Jannie story and the Zendall story. I am waiting to see what I think of the Jamanda story since thats just starting. Everything else feels like a false start or dead dull.

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    EET- I will agree that the newbies are seeing too much airtime on AMC compared to the vets, but I guess I’m not too upset about it because I like the new characters and their storylines, but others may not. I don’t like how they have just DROPPED the Madison/Frankie storyline but I’m hoping that is about to pick up with this baby which I HOPE is Frankie’s. And I don’t like how they just made Angie blind and then dumped THAT storyline.

    I don’t think that this will be the end of David or that he’s been written into a corner. For other characters, yes, this storyline would’ve been their exit. But David has gotten away with many other things over the years and lived to see another storyline. I honestly think the actor and character are too popular for AMC to be totally done with. I hope I’m right b/c I LOVE LOVE David Hayward!

    As far as Liza getting dumped on, this is nothing new and honestly Liza is a beatch and deserves what she is getting with everyone mad at her right now. I will say that I felt really sorry for her when Zach died because she really did love him and I loved the scene were Tad comforted her despite his anger at her. But honestly these actions of Liza and her treatment by others is consistent with the character over the years. She has always rubbed people the wrong way, been a troublemaker and abrasive. And over the years, 90% of the time, the people have had issues with her and she has been an outcast so this is nothing new.

    Ok..so now that it has been revealed that Asher’s mom left Caleb for Adam, does anyone else think with this connection Asher has to JR that Asher will wind up being Adam’s son and not Calebs?

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