HomeTVABCThe Problem With The View’s Whoopi Goldberg Akash Nikolas February 17, 2011 ABC, Celebrity, Movies, The View, TV 35 Comments Yesterday on The View, Whoopi Goldberg apologized to The New York Times for calling their reporting "shoddy" in reference to an article on black Oscar winners that didn’t mention her. She says she found the article "confusing" and was "hurt than neither Cuba Gooding Jr, Louis Gossett Jr, or myself were mentioned" but that she is nevertheless sorry for impugning the credibility of the film critics who wrote the article. It’s good that she apologized…except that she’s not being completely honest at this point either. Fact is, Goldberg initially failed to realize that the article was not about listing all the black Oscar winners, and therefore her omission was not an oversight or an insult. She equivocates "I personally found the article confusing" when the real issue isn’t that the article was confusing (I certainly had no trouble reading and understanding it the first time) but rather that she either 1) didn’t read it carefully or 2) became easily offended and refused to examine the situation before making an embarrasing, self-aggrandizing spectacle about it. It is also disingenious for her to cite the names of other black actors unmentioned in the article, when her original hissy fit had nothing to do with them. She made a cring-worthy, narcissistic stink about the fact that she was a famous person, everyone knew she had won an Oscar, and how dare they forget it. She even pulled out her Oscar in a petulant display of public wound-licking. It’s fairly obvious that she’s only mentioning the names of other ommitted actors now to grant her initial overreaction a nobler motive. She wasn’t just upset for herself you see, she was upset on behalf of others as well. Yeah, except she didn’t actually mention anyone other than herself until today. Nice try Whoopi. Ever since she has joined The View, Goldberg has condescended to guests (especially reality stars) and even her other co-hosts. She makes it blatantly obvious she thinks she’s too good for this show, and this week’s events perfectly showcased that. She overreacted to something that had nothing to do with black actors, and had everything to do with her own ego. And she used her pulpit to revel in self-pity, even roping in her co-stars who abetted her tantrum and blasted the newspaper along with her (Elisabeth even said she canceled her subscription!) which I guess means none of them bothered to read the article either. This incident has highlighted a glaring problem with the current panel. Goldberg is a very talented actress, and has done many things in show business that she should be proud of, but her tenure on The View is not one of them. It has been filled with self-congratulation, elitism and an inability to relate to her guests and co-stars. It is ironic that Goldberg initally thought this incident reflected a problem with two film critics at The New York Times, when really it just reflected a problem with one host on The View. 35 Responses dang90210 February 17, 2011 she going to be the next star jones out the door Log in to Reply Scooter Smith February 17, 2011 Akash, I have to disagree with you. The paragraph states “Real change seemed to have come to movies or at least the Academy, which had given statuettes to a total of seven black actors in the previous 73 years. ” That is absolutely false. They may have meant that since Berry and Washington won, but they specifically said “in the previous 73 years”. Whoopi may have exaggerated it because of her feelings, but she did not “refuse to examine the situation before making an embarrassing, self-aggrandizing spectacle about it.” The way that article was written, I would have considered it a snub too. PS, I am no fan of Whoopi. She has been no better than Rosie was, but I do not disagree with her in this instance. Log in to Reply bishbay February 17, 2011 I think she’s terrible, and she does indeed think herself far too good for the show. It’s dumb; it’s a full-time gig in NYC (her chosen home) that I’m sure pays her pretty well. I have never felt strongly about her one way or another as a host on the show until she pulled this crap. After this she needs to go. Log in to Reply Smitty February 17, 2011 OMG I can’t believe I am going to say this in public but I don’t think Whoopi is good on The View. I agree 100 percent with you Akash. I have mainly quit watching the show because she’s a bad moderator and it’s not entertaining to see her roll her eyes at different stories/actors/actresses/reality stars or what not. Why this current panel (Babs/Whoopi/Joy/Sherri/Elisabeth) won a daytime Emmy I will never understand. I think the past panels have been much better and definitely deserved the Emmy for best talk show host. I will be honest I haven’t really been following this whole Oscar story about them mentioning her name. When I first heard about it I just rolled my eyes, but yeah whatever. I like Whoopi and have been a big fan of her movies and I was one of the 17 people who watched her tv series on NBC (don’t shoot me). LOL, but I have not enjoyed her tenure on the view. Not at all. Log in to Reply jaredrw February 17, 2011 This is ridiculous. She did bring up the other people and said something to the effect that she felt bad they didn’t have a talk to show to talk about it. Log in to Reply thecourt99 February 17, 2011 I read the article. I was confused. The above poster says why. Instead of admitting that…they insulted the reader. As far as Whoopi’s impact on the show. I disagree with Akash. She sneers at reality stars…well so would I. The purpose of the View is to show various views, and I’m sorry people that study the art of acting just to be on television have cause to sneer at the people that become famous just because a camera happens to follow them. Many of these reality stars attempt to parlay their “fame” into acting…and get jobs because they want eyes on the show versus talent. Not everyone watches or enjoys reality TV. Why isn’t that a view that should be presented? If you ask me, the show is a pretty good crossection and Sheri and Elizabeth more than balance her out with their fawning. I watch reality TV and I know that it is inevitable…but I do miss scripted work requiring actors and I hope that the art of acting won’t be lost as a result. It’s amazing that because of reality we are in a world where a person becomes famous simply for having sex, fighting, and getting drunk on TV. THAT gets you a BW interview? Log in to Reply Muggins13 February 17, 2011 I’ve been through with her and that show since she defended Michael Vick. Log in to Reply siltor67 February 17, 2011 i happen to agree with her stance on reality stars..i have no respect for any of them..no matter how talented or how ‘pretty’ they may be…to me, it’s just another form of prostitution…i do agree with akash, that whoopi feels she’s above the show. she does get a bit holier-than-thou.. Log in to Reply GHFan777 February 17, 2011 I can’t stand Whoopie Goldberg. I think she is rude, and acts like her opinion is the only one that matters. I also can’t stand Joy Behar. I no longer watch “The View,” because of these two over bearing obnoxious women. The two of them gang up and tend to “bully” whomever disagrees with them. I am happy that she made a fool over herself in this instance, because she failed to really listen… or in this case read someone else’s stance on a subject. Log in to Reply Ryan-Scott February 17, 2011 Maybe she should go do something else. Log in to Reply Patchworks February 17, 2011 I love Whoopi. I believe she has every right to be a self-aggrandizing diva. She makes no apologies for who she is, which is an accomplished, Academy-Award, Grammy Award, Tony Award, and Emmy Award winning actress/comedienne. She doesn’t have to minimize her success to make anyone else comfortable with her. She is fully comfortable in her skin. I also love that she is bold and brash. I’m sorry, Akash, but I absolutely disagree with you. Now, whether or not you think she read or understood the article, she expressed her visceral, emotional reaction — she’s entitled. She’s also entitled to apologize and attempt to save face when shown the error of her ways. I’m giving her room to do that. Log in to Reply ldylkng February 17, 2011 And I happen to think she brings common sense to all subjects brought to the table. I don’t watch if she’s not on. She has been there and done that. She speaks from experience, not ideas. If you, who judge her, would go to one of her one woman shows, I believe you would agree. Log in to Reply TV Gord February 17, 2011 I think it’s also interesting to note that when the subject first came up on The View, it was Barbara who brought it up, not Whoopi. Barbara said the article bothered her, and then Whoopi took it from there. I think it’s important to keep that in mind. Log in to Reply dsrbroadway February 17, 2011 I do feel that the article could have been more clearly written; however, I find it clear that the article as written was mainly about representation of people of color since 2002, when Berry and Washington were the Best Actor and Actress winners, since this year (ten years after) there are no acting no nominees are of color. With that, I don’t find it necessary to have mentioned the previous winners. Would it have been nice? Sure. But the article wasn’t meant to be a role call. The article should have been a great point of discussion by the ladies to discuss the lack of diversity in prime acting roles this year. Whoopi is the highest-grossing black actress of all time, surely she could have had something intelligent to say about the state of race on film. Instead, it turned into a Whoopi pity party, due in large part to Barbra’s misrepresentation of the article. And frankly, all of them yammering on about fact-checking made them all look the fool. Log in to Reply Jamey Giddens February 17, 2011 Babs brought it up, but they obviously talked about it beforehand, since Whoop had her Oscar at the ready! LOL They no doubt decided, "Let Barbara bring it up, so Whoopi won’t sound like such a Sour Sally." Log in to Reply keanna February 17, 2011 I know right, Jamey!! People forget it was Barbara that brought it up first, the problem was that the article was so confusing, you had to make your own interpretation, As for Whoopi, she has always been who she is, and she makes no bones about it, and that’s why the show hired her. Log in to Reply Akash Nikolas February 17, 2011 Perhaps the article could have been clearer, but the fact remains, it was Whoopi’s mistake in misreading it, and her overreaction had to do with ego and pomposity. And Jamey is right: they clearly decided to have Babs bring it up so Whoopi could just "react" to it. Washington and Berry won at the 74th annual Academy awards. The "previous 73 years" was meant to include all black acting winners up to that point (Hattie McDaniel, Sidney Poitier, Louis Gossett Jr, Denzel Washington, Whoopi Goldberg, Cuba Gooding Jr., and Halle Berry). The point of that the article is that it took 73 years to grant seven black actors Oscars while in the next few years, Oscars would be given out to black actors more freely. The article did not list the winners in the first 73 years, but it obviously meant for the reader to understand that the phrase "previous 73 years" meant "all winners until that point." That would include Goldberg. It would only be a slight if they had listed all the other winners from the past 73 years and not included her. But since they didn’t list any of them (Halle Berry, Denzel Washington, Sidney Poitier and Hattie McDaniel were referenced in a separate context), it is not an ommission or an insult. The article then goes on to list the winners after to show how often the Oscars have rewarded black actors since then. The fact remains that Louis Gossett Jr. and Cuba Goodings Jr. were not mentioned either. They too were implied in "the pevious 73 years". And it is a fact that Whoopi did not mention them at all during her initial tantrum. She only mentioned them later during her apology to make her reaction seem more noble. This was always about her own ego. Log in to Reply Patchworks February 17, 2011 Let’s not act brand new. The entertainment industry is all about ego. And if someone as accomplished as Whoopi Goldberg, love her or hate her, is not acknowledged, it is a problem. This reminds me of the time when the Oscars failed to acknowledge her previous stints as the host of the awards. When you are in the industry, certain accolades matter. I’m sure Babs wondered, “We have Whoopi on our show. ‘Whoopi, why didn’t they mention you in this article?” For artists of color (y’all took me here and I didn’t wanna go), Hollywood is the gold standard for discrimination, from Eartha Kitt and Dorothy Dandridge all the way to, yes, Whoopi Goldberg. I will grant you that she appeared to be overly-sensitive on The View. I will grant you that her rant was ego-driven. I will grant you that she is elitist and difficult. What I will not accept is that of the seven African Americans who were awarded Oscars prior to the 74th Academy Awards, the article did not think it necessary to invoke her name, the first African American actress to be honored in almost 50 years. Does not compute. And then, after she apologizes, it’s still not good enough? Really? Log in to Reply alstonboy4315 February 17, 2011 The bottom line for ME is: YES, Whoopi Goldberg can be very abrasive, presumptuous and sometimes she can be downright rude, but I still love her, and I have since she played Celie in my favorite movie of all time, “The Color Purple.”She is NEVER boring and I always find myself chuckling at whatever comes out of her mouth, regardless of how crass or inappropriate it may sometimes be. The only thing I don’t like about “The View” is Elizabeth Hasslebleep. But I have learned to tolerate her and pretty much tune out her squeaky voice and 99.999% of everything that she says. I’d take TWENTY Whoopis over just ONE Hasslebleep, if I had that choice. But until Babs gets her stuff together and fires the twit…… I don’t want to see her go ANYWHERE!!!!!!!!! Just my humble opinion. Log in to Reply Akash Nikolas February 17, 2011 jaredrw This is ridiculous. She did bring up the other people and said something to the effect that she felt bad they didn’t have a talk to show to talk about it. She was talking about grievances in general — not specifically this issue — and she made no mention of Louis Gossett Jr. or Cuba Gooding Jr. by name. She only mentioned them now to make it seem as if her original rant had a nobler purpose. It’s pretty obvious she thought she was the only name that was ommitted until later when the Times refused to apologize, told her to re-read the article, and she must have done so and realized her error. Hence her apology. Patchworks I will grant you that she appeared to be overly-sensitive on The View. I will grant you that her rant was ego-driven. I will grant you that she is elitist and difficult. Good, then we agree since this was my point. Patchworks the article did not think it necessary to invoke her name, the first African American actress to be honored in almost 50 years. Does not compute. Because the article wasn’t about listing all the black winners. Its point was entirely different as I’ve explained before. What "does not compute" is Whoopi’s Math. You are correct that it was 50 years between Hattie McDaniel’s win and hers, not 70 like she originally claimed. But I understand how self-righteous indignation can make someone calculate wrong. Patchworks And then, after she apologizes, it’s still not good enough? Really? I *did* give her credit for that — "It’s good that she apologized" — and then proceeded to inject a "but." My caveat was about the fact that she only listed Louis Gossett Jr and Cuba Gooding Jr after the fact to make her previous rant seem less obnoxious (i.e. on behalf of a bigger cause). It is wholly disingenious for her to say she was upset on their behalf, when the clip of her on The View that day makes no mention of them by name and she manages instead to go on and on about how famous she is etc. This is not an interpretation but an objective fact. One only has to watch the video of her that day to see that this was all about her, NOT about other black actors. Log in to Reply Akash Nikolas February 17, 2011 alstonboy4315 The only thing I don’t like about "The View" is Elizabeth Hasslebleep. Don’t even get me started on that twit. She said she canceled her NY Times subscription when they ommitted Whoopi. I wonder if she has re-subscribed now that Whoopi has apologized? I hope not. If this incident has proved anything, it’s that some people lack reading comprehension skills and thus, better someone like Elizabeth just not read at all. Log in to Reply Chocolate-Mama February 17, 2011 I remember years ago, seeing Whoopi act a complete fool at an Essence Awards show, in New York. She won an award, then proceeded to lambast the audience for the fact that she had never received one long before this. I could go into the many reasons I don’t like Whoppi Goldeberg. I could go into how I despise the way she stomps out onto that ‘View’ stage, in clothing that is so God awful looking, I don’t even want to know where it came from. I read the article. While it was a bit all over the place, the impression I got, was that the author just mentioned a few African American winners, just to make several points(as I said, the article was all over the place). But the point of the piece was not to name every Black winner that ever existed. We know you’re an Oscar winner, Whoopi. When the woman isn’t shamelessly namedropping on ‘The View’, she’s reminding people of it during times such as this–when she thinks someone purposely forgot to mention her. To be blunt–meanly blunt, Lou Gossett Jr. was the only one of the three, that deserved that Oscar for his role in ‘An Officer And a Gentleman’. The man was bad ass. Cuba Gooding Jr. played a clown as far as I could see in ‘Jerry McGuire’ and Whoopi was amusing, but I never thought that ‘Ghost’ performance was all that. But typical of many actors in Hollywood, sometimes they don’t win for their best work. Whoopi should’ve won for ‘Color Purple’. Kate Winslet should have won for ‘Titanic’ instead of for ‘The Reader. Robert Duvall should have won for ‘The Great Santini’ instead of ‘Tender Mercies’…the list is long and color blind. You know how ‘The View’ is. This will be forgotten and next week Elisabeth Hasselbeck will be the one causing trouble again. Log in to Reply Akash Nikolas February 18, 2011 Chocolate Mama I read the article. While it was a bit all over the place, the impression I got, was that the author just mentioned a few African American winners, just to make several points(as I said, the article was all over the place). But the point of the piece was not to name every Black winner that ever existed. We know you’re an Oscar winner, Whoopi. When the woman isn’t shamelessly namedropping on ‘The View’, she’s reminding people of it during times such as this–when she thinks someone purposely forgot to mention her. Well said! This of course is exactly the point. Log in to Reply BillBeaverPA February 18, 2011 Sorry Scooter Smith, but you’re doing the same thing that Whoopi apparently did, and that’s taking the paragraph out of context. On its own, here’s how it reads…. “Real change seemed to have come to movies or at least the Academy, which had given statuettes to a total of seven black actors in the previous 73 years. ” Scooter reacts by saying: That is absolutely false. They may have meant that since Berry and Washington won, but they specifically said “in the previous 73 years”. Now read it with a PREVIOUS paragraph… Nine years ago, when Denzel Washington and Halle Berry won his and her Oscars — he was only the second African-American man to win best actor, and she was the first African-American woman to win best actress — each took a moment to look back at the performers from earlier generations who had struggled against prejudice and fought to claim the recognition too often denied them. Followed shortly by… “Real change seemed to have come to movies or at least the Academy, which had given statuettes to a total of seven black actors in the previous 73 years. ” See? It’s saying previously to 2002, the Academy had only given seven black actors statues… Yes, I agree, it’s confusing, but you can’t take that one paragraph without placing it in context. Log in to Reply Llanview76 February 18, 2011 Hah! I called it! Log in to Reply orryk February 18, 2011 Poor Whoopi! Her big Movie Star days are over, she’s “reduced” to appearing on a daytime talk show..I can understand why she’s upset! But by golly she still has her OSCAR!! She ain’t gonna let’em take that from her!! Log in to Reply Jamey Giddens February 18, 2011 Hollywood is discriminatory to minorities, which the NYT article was pointing out, but Whoopi had to get all simple and ruin the message by making it about her. Log in to Reply Jillian Bowe February 18, 2011 Reading NYT article instead of allowing the heifers from The View do it, I realized Whoopi was having much ado about nothing…. The article outlines everything so, how is Whoopi not making it all about her? Forget the other actors that won before her, it was ALL about HER. I mean she didn’t list those who won before her now did she? She busted out her OWN Oscar. Now she has egg all over her face. You never heard the other black actors freaking like Ms. G now did you? Log in to Reply GHfan-4now February 18, 2011 Well, we are talking about a woman who took her name from something you sit on that makes farting noises. I appreciate Whoopi and all, but I agree with the others, it was clear that she made it all about her. I saw the clip where she whipped out that Oscar like an AK-47. Log in to Reply TV Gord February 18, 2011 [quote=Jamey Giddens]Hollywood is discriminatory to minorities…[/quote] I always think that’s too simplistic a statement. Hollywood doesn’t discriminate against anyone or anything that makes them money. I think the problem is with the lowest-common-denominator consumers of entertainment. The white majority audience who doesn’t want to accept “too many” minorities in their entertainment are the problem. Hollywood is catering to the largest audience, and that’s why–for instance–Kyle and Fish were wrapped up abruptly on OLTL. If middle America embraced their story, they’d still be around, in my opinion. Hollywood always wants to be on the ground floor of the next big thing, so they will sometimes try something a little different. If it works, you’ll see all sorts of copycats of that trend. If it doesn’t work, bye-bye Kish. Log in to Reply luverica February 18, 2011 Uh oh! I think we see what topic #1’s going to be on the next Pop Confidential podcast. MISSION: ANNIHILATE WHOOPI led by her favorite fan Akash Nicholas. I can’t comment on this particular situation itself because I didn’t see the episode and just didn’t feel compel to watch the YouTube clip nor read the article because quite frankly, my attitude at this point is ‘whatevah’. From reading the comments on this thread, it does appear that her and her co-hosts made much ado about nothing and Whoopi did make it about her. For what it’s worth, I don’t always agree with the woman (I didn’t feel her on the Mel Gibson issue at all) but at the risk of being considered biased, and I’ll be fine with that, I love her and she’s is and has always been one of my favorite entertainers. I think she has a phenomenal career, which in all fairness was touched on my Akash. As for how she carries herself overall, I’m totally with Patchworks and ldylkng on this one. As for her tenure on THE VIEW, I do believe she’s been more of a positive than a negative for the show and the overall current show dynamic and if I’m not mistaken, the ratings seem to support that. If she was as much a negative element of the show and has been expressed then do you really think Barbara would still have her on there? I don’t think I’ve ever recall any comments by Larry Flick regarding Whoopi. I tend to value his opinion, particularly since we’re about the same age. Not to assume that he will be pro-Whoopi, but I would be interested on his take on her and her time on THE VIEW. Log in to Reply Jillian Bowe February 18, 2011 TV Gord, if you think that then more power to you. Some of the big wigs of H’weird have all made that same statement regarding TinselTown being discriminatory to minorities. It has also to women. Why do you think Tyler Perry had to to his own thing and create his own studio? Log in to Reply TV Gord February 18, 2011 It’s just a different perspective I have, Jillian. There’s no shortage of minority representation in the music world or the sports world, because minorities make money for their bosses…because the consumers are there. For some reason, on television, audiences don’t value minorities the same way (with a few obvious exceptions). I reiterate, if straight, white people loved great shows that honestly portrayed the black or gay (or Hispanic or Asian) experience, Hollywood would be seeking out more and more of those shows. I can’t lay the blame at the feet of Hollywood, which is only looking for the largest audiences and the most money. I CAN (and DO) lay it at the feet of small-minded people who don’t want to watch anyone who differs (too much) from themselves. Log in to Reply Akash Nikolas February 19, 2011 luverica – I’m not out to "annihilate" anyone. Whoopi’s ego has been on display ever since she joined The View, and this situation merely exposed it. Thus I commented on it. If Luke and Jamey want to discuss it on a podcast and invite me to do so, I’ll certainly say just that. And since Whoopi brought it up, you know what? She shouldn’t have won that Oscar over Lorraine Bracco in Goodfellas anyway. Yeah, I said it (I would however have given the Oscar to her for The Color Purple if I’d had a vote). Log in to Reply josser February 20, 2011 dsrbroadway, I agree with you. Whoopi did a HUGE disservice to actors of color by displaying such a selfish stance. The opportunity for a discussion was lost because of her huge ego. I am extremely disappointed in her. Log in to Reply Leave a Reply Cancel Reply You must be logged in to post a comment.