HomeTVABCIs Roger Howarth Returning to One Life To Live or Not? Jillian Bowe February 23, 2011 42 Comments Will Roger Howarth resume the role of Todd Manning? One Life to Live’s head writer Ron Carlivati talks with Soap Opera Digest about the rumors and little hints being dropped onscreen and stated: We’re playing on that history and use it in the mystery that we started to tell with Blair and Tomas. The savvy viewer will notice. So it opens up a lot of questions and possibilities. There is definitely an element of the mystery that is connected to the way Todd used to look. 42 Responses jockteen10 February 23, 2011 I want RG to come back to OLTL but not as Todd. That role belongs to TSJ now. Log in to Reply alstonboy4315 February 23, 2011 My head is SPINNING from all the conflicting information that I have been reading from OTHER soap blogging websites and soap-related sources!! One second, “Trevor is out and Roger is returning to reprise the role of Todd Manning.” Two seconds later: There is “no truth” to rumors that Roger is returning. Oh wait…….BREAKING NEWS: Roger’s returning and Trevor is STAYING!!! Jesus, be a fence!!!! S) S) S) S) S) S) S) S) I have said it before a million times, Trevor IS Todd Manning for me. I enjoyed Roger’s portrayal, but I have grown to accept and even favor Trevor’s portrayal. I wouldn’t be opposed to the idea of Roger returning, but I would never want to see Trevor get booted or kicked to the curb just to accommodate that. Normally, when it comes to actors returning to reclaim their past roles, I say THANK GOD……….(as was the case with Michelle Stafford, Rebecca Budig and Robin Strasser returning to their roles), but in this case, I am slightly inclined to say: FINDERS KEEPERS, LOSERS WEEPERS!!!!!! I would really love to see them act alongside each other, if Roger is returning. I think that would be a welcome compromise, although financially that might not be feasible for the show. Log in to Reply dellygrim February 23, 2011 Thanks for clearing that up Ron. I would love for RH to return as Todd. I love TSJ too though. I want them to to do a shameless ripoff of the Days 2 Romans storyline. I think OLTL could make it work better than Days did. Hopefully we won’t see Josh Taylor as the real Todd a few years down the line. Log in to Reply giogio February 23, 2011 I dont care if Roger comes back – i like him, but I Love Trevor- I want him to stay – FOREVER. Log in to Reply watchingallday February 23, 2011 Alstonboy, I could not have said it better myself. I want Trevor to stay, and while I liked Roger as Todd, I do care either way if he comes back or not, and the back and forth is driving me crazy. Log in to Reply No Daisy February 23, 2011 I’ve got to admit to being totally sucked in to the possability of an RH return. I’ve enjoyed the tease the show is giving me. Do I want RH to return? absolutely. But I don’t think this show hinges on his return, like the desperate folks at GH did with Brenda. OLTL’s got it going on right now. RH returning would only put the cherry on my soap sundae. Log in to Reply harlee490 February 23, 2011 Yes I want RH back as Todd, TSJ can stay to because I do like him and it could create tremendous story but it was on Canada’s TV Guide dropping hints a couple of weeks ago that TSJ could be leaving when contract is up in April. If so we need Todd on canvas and if TSJ does want to leave that is his decision. Log in to Reply ktuc February 23, 2011 While TSJ is an excellent actor, I don’t care one way or the other of his staying with OLTL! I loved RH’s Todd and would absolutely love for him to return! Log in to Reply Jamey Giddens February 23, 2011 TEAM TREVOR!!!!!!!!!! Log in to Reply alstonboy4315 February 23, 2011 Watchingallday– Thanks for the shout out!!! Log in to Reply wiggum February 23, 2011 I’ve been trying to figure out who this blind item from tv guide canada and SOD was about “Is a popular star about to reclaim his Emmy-winning role now that his predecessor is out?” Has it been confirmed that TSJ is leaving? I personally would love to see RH back. He is Todd to me. This blind item seems too obvious, the rumors of Rh returning have been going on over a year now. Ia ctually thought the blind item was about Rick Forester now that Brady s gone, I thought Justin what’s his name could return to B&B, He was Rick when Adrienne Frantz and him won emmys Log in to Reply capwell February 23, 2011 “Is a popular star about to reclaim his Emmy-winning role now that his predecessor is out?” If by this, Branco is referring to TSJ vs. RH, then the man is a functional illiterate and should not be writing a column on a well-respected website. “Predecessor” means the person who was first, in this case that is Roger. “Successor” is the person who takes over. That would be Trevor. Log in to Reply Ryan-Scott February 23, 2011 I thought Roger wanted too much $ and ABC said no…..hmm… Log in to Reply inspiron February 23, 2011 Roger Howarth is so coming back! It’s about time. Todd Manning has been MIA for far too long. I miss his vulnerability and his complex take on Todd Manning. But even if he isn’t Todd, it will be so great to see RH back where he belongs, on OLTL. Log in to Reply TV Gord February 23, 2011 I would like Roger to come back, but if it meant Trevor would be written out, I would always resent Howarth for it. I know it wouldn’t be his fault, but that’s my knee-jerk reaction. Log in to Reply Daniel St. John February 24, 2011 TSJ can stay, go or jump in a lake but if OLTL has the chance to bring RH back as the real Todd then they should jump at it. If they don’t then I will just continue to FF through TSJ’s lazy mumbling which sucks because I really do love Tea but not even Florencia Lozano can make me sit through scene after scene of someone who so apparently doesn’t give a damn about what he is doing 90% of the time. Log in to Reply season1217 February 24, 2011 I like Roger’s Todd and his portrayal of Todd infinitely better than Trevor’s. Having said that Roger’s time on ATWT really leaves me cold at the thought of him coming back to OLTL. Unless, he can bring the acting ability he had before he came to ATWT then just stay away. Log in to Reply Ryan-Scott February 24, 2011 Back in the early 90s, we had Roman (Wayne Northrop) and Roman II/John Black (Drake Hogestyn)on Days….I think we can have two Todds on OLTL… Log in to Reply watchingallday February 24, 2011 Capwell-THANK YOU! I was thinking the same thing about predecessor when it should have been successor thing in that blind item. I thought it was just me who it bothered. I thought maybe English might not have been his first language, but then I remembered he was Canadian, and not from the French part as far as I could tell. As it is worded, it would not match any character/actors currently on daytime.accept Jacob Young as Lucky, and I am pretty sure that is not happening. Log in to Reply megana February 24, 2011 i like both Tristan and Roger in the role, though I still think Roger’s Todd a humanity that I haven’t seen in Todd recently. To be honest, I would like Roger back in the role, though it would be much more fun having both he and Tristan around. Make it work ABC! Log in to Reply FaisonFanInTexas February 24, 2011 alston~I had to pop in and say “howdy” and you crack me up! :love: :love: “Jesus, be a fence.” xoxo Log in to Reply alstonboy4315 February 24, 2011 Faison~~ Hey, stranger!!! I have missed you so much!! I hope you stop in more often from now on and play in the sandbox with me. It’s nice to have friends on here!!! Log in to Reply wiggum February 24, 2011 I would be totally fine with both Todds staying. I like TSJ but the writing for Todd has been horrible but I can’t blame TSJ… same with parrot Todd in early 2000s. I don’t think Ron and Frank are going to repeat their mistakes with Tina and GH’s with Brenda. Log in to Reply soapcrazy February 24, 2011 I so hope RH is coming back. TSJ can act, but he is not Todd. TSJ’s Todd should be an imposter/ who was brain washed, perhaps, connecting to Mitch Lawerence in some way. RH’s Todd had an attitude about him that was brooding, made you love to hate him, handsome, tortured, having the girls wanting to save him even though they know he would hurt them, etc- that type of character. Sorta GH’s Sonny Corinthos-esque in a way. Once I saw the hints that RH might return, I started to tune in more to OLTL for the possibility and hoping he would come back. I use to watch OLTL in the past for RH Todd and Blair (CD), and Dorian. Now I tune in for Dorian and Blair. RH is Todd Manning! BTW, those who want TSJ to stay as Todd, were you watching RH when he was Todd? I noticed that some people on the board who want TSJ as Todd have admitted that they never seen RH’s version of him and started watching OLTL only with TSJ version Log in to Reply glam_queen February 24, 2011 I’ve only been watching while TSJ has been playing the role of Todd, so to me he is Todd Manning. I wouldn’t mind RH being on the show but I don’t want him back as Todd. They can create a new role for him. If GH could do it with Sarah Brown coming back to GH as Claudia and not Carly they can do it for him. Log in to Reply appleridge February 24, 2011 [quote=soapcrazy] BTW, those who want TSJ to stay as Todd, were you watching RH when he was Todd? I noticed that some people on the board who want TSJ as Todd have admitted that they never seen RH’s version of him and started watching OLTL only with TSJ version[/quote] I have Watched OLTL Since 1991 & Enjoyed RH As Todd But Perfer TSJ In The Role Log in to Reply TV Gord February 24, 2011 I watched Roger as Todd, and I think if he comes back, he should be Todd, even though I prefer TSJ in the role. The one problem I have with RH as Todd as that I remember reading that he said he never wanted Todd to be happy; that he should always be tortured by the choices he’s made in the past. While I admire that viewpoint, I like seeing Todd married, whether it’s to Téa or to Blair. Log in to Reply Daniel St. John February 24, 2011 [quote=TV Gord]The one problem I have with RH as Todd as that I remember reading that he said he never wanted Todd to be happy; that he should always be tortured by the choices he’s made in the past. While I admire that viewpoint, I like seeing Todd married, whether it’s to Téa or to Blair.[/quote] That is what I liked about RH’s Todd. There should be an inherent sense of self-loathing in the character because he realizes that he has done some seriously heinous things in his past and despite his best efforts he cannot truly change himself into a good man…there is too much darkness in him and he too easily succumbs to his darker inclinations. TSJ plays Todd as a self-righteous ass who looks down on damn near everyone in Llanview while TPTB want him to be some romantic anti-hero. That aint Todd Manning as far as I am concerned. Log in to Reply watchingallday February 24, 2011 I was watched Roger as Todd as well, and I still much prefer Trevor. Log in to Reply soapcrazy February 24, 2011 Daniel St John, ITA with what you said. I love that about RH’s Todd Log in to Reply keanna February 24, 2011 Alstonboy you took the words right out of my mouth. I liked Roger as Todd, but Trevor has DEFINITELY made the role his own. Unless they make them twins or cousins, I see no reason in bringing Roger back. I just wish there was a clear answer, so that we can put an end to all these rumors. Log in to Reply nOva February 24, 2011 I like both actors and both portrayals and that’s really all I got since I feel like I’m in the minority for not having a passionate opinion about one or the other. Log in to Reply GHfan-4now February 24, 2011 OLTL is loving this. They want to keep the rumors going, at least until all the I’s are dotted and the T’s are crossed… Or the I’s are undotted and the T’s uncrossed, I guess. Now, I don’t know anything on anything in regards to either TSJ or RH, who’s going, who’s coming, or anything–I’m just speculating here. But I think that’s the point because it gets folks talking about the show more than usual. Whether good or bad, positive or negative feelings, folks can’t stop talking about OLTL’s Todd Factor. Is this the real Todd?? Is THAT the real Todd?? Will RH return? Will TSJ bolt?? OLTL is fueling their own word-of-mouth blitz tour with just this tid bit of info on all the soap sites and in the magazines. Regardless of how I feel on the whole thing, I think it’s quite brilliant storytelling on their end. And they don’t get the promotion they deserve from the higher ups at ABC, so they sneak in a few mentions of “old” Todd into the scripts and show clips and pics of RH’s Todd and show one sided conversations on TSJ’s Todd’s end. They show a Valentine’s episode of RH’s Todd and Blair getting married… and then the questions start, as does the talk of preference. The fan views on TSJ’s Todd and RH’s Todd are starting to rival Liason vs. JaSam. Brilliant! I grew up with RH’s Todd, but learned to accept TSJ over time. (but i have to go agasint the grain, cause I did love RH more as todd–don’t stone me, please) Either way, I have to admit that I’m sucked in and am eager to know what the hell the deal is with both TSJ and RH. Log in to Reply beans4metoo February 24, 2011 The one problem I have with RH as Todd as that I remember reading that he said he never wanted Todd to be happy; that he should always be tortured by the choices he’s made in the past. ____________________________________________________________________________ TV Gord.. THAT IS TODD. Todd was ALWAYS tortured by his choices and past that haunted him. That is how he was WRITTEN, that IS Todd and that is how Roger Howarth portrayed him. Todd was ashamed of his past and what he did to Marty and carried that shame with him always, to the point of being AFRAID to love or be intimate with a woman because he felt he would hurt someone or didn’t deserve love. THAT is the original characterization of Todd Manning which is exactly why I prefer RH over TSJ. I think that Daniel St. John summed it up brilliantly by saying that TSJ’s Todd is a smart-ass who feels entitled and I will add to that, the current portrayal of Todd by TSJ is that Todd has NO REMORSE for the things he has done or continues to do. Instead he defends his actions and blames others and acts like others are wrong and he is right or justified in doing the horrible things he has done. RH’s Todd felt SHAME and EMBARRASMENT for his actions and the remorse was written all over his face. That is why I have such a favoritism for RH’s Todd b/c I feel that the characterization of Todd has changed since TSJ has portrayed him. Now, I know that is not TSJ’s fault, that the writing has alot to do with how the character is portrayed, but for this fan Roger IS THE ORIGINAL TODD MANNING. That said, I really like Trevor and would hate to see him lose his job so if he chooses to stay and Roger chooses to return, I would love to see RH as Todd and Trevor as an imposter but written in a way that will redeem Trevor and allow him to remain on canvas. Ghfan-4now: Great post and I think you nailed it. This whole is he or isn’t he in regards to RH is really a brillant move on the part of OLTL. As you said, they don’t get any publicity from ABC so THIS gives them much needed word of mouth. I for one had not watched OLTL in YEARS and began reading the recaps when I heard it was getting so good, and STARTED watching again 3 weeks ago when I read about the RH pics being shown and the Tomas story but truth be told I have tuned BACK in just in anticipation of Roger coming back. No telling how many viewers have started watching again hoping to see Roger return. It really has been a smart move on the part of TPTB. BUT this will be one ticked viewer if this has all be publicity and there is no plans for Roger to return. Log in to Reply sunnydays25 February 24, 2011 [quote=Daniel St. John]That is what I liked about RH’s Todd. There should be an inherent sense of self-loathing in the character because he realizes that he has done some seriously heinous things in his past and despite his best efforts he cannot truly change himself into a good man…there is too much darkness in him and he too easily succumbs to his darker inclinations. TSJ plays Todd as a self-righteous ass who looks down on damn near everyone in Llanview while TPTB want him to be some romantic anti-hero. That aint Todd Manning as far as I am concerned.[/quote] I agree. RH’s Todd was a tourtured soul who wanted to be good but hated himself too much to truly be good. I loved his relationship with ES/Viki; it was so much more respectful that the one written now between Trevor and Erika. Obviously, the writer’s needed to change the character somewhat to make him grow and to accomodate the acting style of TSJ, but Todd has become a characature of his former self. Not sure if this is all the writer’s fault, though….others have mentioned that TSJ seems to mumbling his way through recent scenes. This could be because he is, indeed, leaving or RH is being added/replacing him. Or it could be in protest to the way Todd is being written. I do like TSJ, but I have to say that I am Team Roger all the way. I would love to see him back on OLTL as Todd. Log in to Reply kintex February 24, 2011 I dont want RH back on this show. However if he has to be here then let them create another character for him because TSJ is Todd Manning. Log in to Reply GHfan-4now February 24, 2011 Oh beans, I loved your post, LOL. You, sunny, and Daniel St. John hit the nail on the head for me as to why I loved RH’s Todd. A great example would be his 2nd wedding to Blair in ’95. You KNEW Todd was in love with Blair, you KNEW he was happy inside, but even on his wedding day, you also KNEW he was heavily tortured because he could barely show the happiness in his face and accept the life with the woman he loved. The showering her with gold??? CLASSIC! I don’t want to see TSJ exit the canvas by any means, but I’ll always love RH. That said, I found a little something on Wikipedia (i know, i know, not the best source for all info, but I think this pretty much sums up Todd Manning as well–not to mention, his relationship with Marty which is why it was so hard to believe that after all they had been through, they would have Todd sleep with her when she had lost her memory) I got it, but couldn’t and can’t accept it, especially with how he’s treated her as of late. This wasn’t Luke and Laura 2.0. And Howarth himself had objected to any romantic pairing with Marty, in any capacity, when he was in the role, because the writers wanted to go there at the time. Anyway: [quote] The series crafted Todd’s spiritual journey as a man who wanted forgiveness for his past misdeeds. In the story, he reasons that he does not deserve forgiveness; this contributes to him embracing his worst qualities. Malone was intrigued by telling this type of character aspect, and felt that it worked better due to Howarth being an actor who would not let Todd acquire redemption easily. Malone felt the most important part of Todd’s redemption was to have him re-confront Marty in order to better deal with the fact that he initiated a gang rape on her. In addition to having Todd risk his freedom from prison to instead save Marty from a car crash, the writers had him go as far as to donate his own blood to Marty to ensure that she survives the wreck. A year later, they crafted a story where he risks his life to save Patrick, Marty’s lover, from death; this act leads to Todd’s presumed death. Despite having the character yearn to be thought of as a decent human being, the writers felt his good deeds should never make him feel any less horrible for having raped Marty. [/quote] Source, Wikipedia, Concept on Redemption. Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Manning And beans, I agree 100% with your saying this: [quote] BUT this will be one ticked viewer if this has all be publicity and there is no plans for Roger to return. [/quote] That would be the downside for a lot of us RH fans if it’s all pomp and no circumstance. Brilliant storytelling, but like you said, RH’s folks would be pissed off if there’s no result. Log in to Reply beans4metoo February 24, 2011 Thanks Ghfan-4now [quote=GHfan-4now]You KNEW Todd was in love with Blair, you KNEW he was happy inside, but even on his wedding day, you also KNEW he was heavily tortured because he could barely show the happiness in his face and accept the life with the woman he loved [/quote] ___________________________________________________________________________ That’s EXACTLY right Ghfan-4now. Todd couldn’t show happiness or allow himself to feel happiness because he didn’t think he deserved it. [quote] The series crafted Todd’s spiritual journey as a man who wanted forgiveness for his past misdeeds. In the story, he reasons that he does not deserve forgiveness; this contributes to him embracing his worst qualities. [/quote] [quote]Despite having the character yearn to be thought of as a decent human being, the writers felt his good deeds should never make him feel any less horrible for having raped Marty. [/quote] Thats a GREAT find Ghfan-4now and I agree that it accurately sums up Todd. “he reasons that he does not deserve forgiveness” in a nutshell sums up TODD MANNING to me. Which is why I think TSJ’s Todd is OOC because he doesn’t WANT or think he NEEDS forgiveness for anything he does. RH’s Todd carried the shame and guilt of Marty’s rape with him always. I think that the writer’s at OLTL and Trevor St. John should consult this Wikipedia description for insight on how to write and portray Todd. Log in to Reply FoxyRoxy February 24, 2011 I love RH’s Todd and would be thrilled if he would come back. I hope TSJ stays as Walker, I like him better when he’s not Todd. Log in to Reply samanthadelayed February 24, 2011 If Trevor is leaving anyway then of course I want Roger to come back. I just find it shitty when they replace an actor because the original is coming back. I love them both, so I don’t really care which one plays Todd at this point. Log in to Reply applecherry February 25, 2011 I agree with keanna……I remember when they cast TSJ as Todd…I was not happy….I thought the character Todd was made for one person only and that was RH…Now that TSJ has made the role his own….I would love for him to stay as Todd….and bring RH back as his twin brother. Although whenever a soap recast a role…I tend to grow into loving that actor if he or she does a really good job taking on the role. So if they bring back RH, as Todd …I’LL BE DISAPPOINTED….But I’m sure I will get over it really soon. Log in to Reply GHfan-4now February 25, 2011 [quote] Thanks Ghfan-4now [/quote] You’re welcome beans, and once again, I completely agree with your post #38. Log in to Reply Leave a Reply Cancel Reply You must be logged in to post a comment.