HomeTVGeneral HospitalGeneral Hospital Spoilers: Josslyn Has Kidney Cancer! Is Jake’s Death a BJ’s Heart Re-Do? Regan Cellura March 8, 2011 General Hospital, General Hospital Spoilers, Soap Opera Spoilers 117 Comments Here’s the Scoop! It all comes together… Josslyn has cancer. What started out as RUMORS has some serious strength behind it now as Jake is in a hit and run and Josslyn’s cancer diagnosis is not in the early stages. Yep, we are most likely getting a re-do of BJ’s heart going to Maxie only this time it looks like Josslyn needs a kidney. Now, I’m no doctor. I don’t even play one on TV. I know typically patients need a relative or a pretty damn good match to be able to do a kidney transplant, so I’m a little perplexed as to how GH is going to explain this one. With Jake in serious condition, Robin and Patrick work hard to save his life. They’ll even forget about proving that Lisa is guilty as sin to save their friend’s child. I hate to say it, as my Liason loving heart breaks, but it does appear that little Jake MORGAN is nearing the end of his days in Port Charles. Who hit Jake? As I’ve mentioned before, there are a few possibilities. Sam is on the roads in search of Theo’s men. A tip she gets from Abby has her on their trail. While driving, she gets a bad headache. Carly is rushing to General Hospital where Jax has their daughter who has a severe fever. Robin is also on the road with the proof that Lisa is one evil bitch. Said bitch is hot on her tail. Also out there, Luke Spencer. He’s on his way to Lucky and Siobhan’s wedding after he initially was against the green-card nuptials. Trying to make it there on-time, could Luke be the one who hit Jake? I’m hearing no, he’s not the likely suspect. Dante and Sam team up to find the driver who ran Jake down! Don’t you just love that it’s always a cop and a mobster or a P.I. teaming up? How about another cop? What will Sam do when she realizes that it is most likely her or Carly that hit Jake? Carly goes to Jason and admits that she thinks she was the one who hit his son. Michael takes if upon himself to cover for Carly, going as far to destroy evidence. Liason fans… while this is going to be a tough one to take, there will be a Jason – Liz moment. They will share their “regrets and sorrow.” Josslyn… Terrell starts her on chemotherapy, but her cancer is quite progressed, stage 5. A kidney donor is her best option. Brenda… Recovers. The anti-dote works and Sonny takes her away on a honeymoon. He’s unable to stop thinking about finding Theo. When word reaches them about Jake and Josslyn, they rush home. Baby Balkan… is Brenda’s baby alive? Suzanne tells her hubby where the baby is. Michael and the mob… He’s all about proving he can do the job. When a shipment comes in, Michael helps out, with no approval from Jason or Sonny. Jason finds out while tracking Theo, thanks to Abby giving him a heads up. Dante and Ronnie arrive to make a bust on the shipment where Dante finds his brother is knee deep. Jason arrives and Dante lets him take Michael out of there. Jason tells Michael he will not be involved in the business. Johnny and the bomb… Jason learns that Johnny set the bomb in the limo. When he confronts Johnny, he gets information on where to locate Theo. CRAZY and RANDOM… Theo and Suzanne are in an “unmarked sedan” when they take off in search of their grandson. Franco contacts Carly threatening Joss. Johnny and Lisa hit the sheets, again. Kristina has a good excuse for interrupting Michael and Abby’s date. Luke and Ethan are almost caught framing Jax. Steve finds Lisa going through his office as part of Johnny’s scavenger hunt. Agent Bates returns. Liz is a mess when Aiden walks out the front door. 117 Responses alstonboy4315 March 8, 2011 Oh “DAYUM, DAYUM, DAYUM, DAYUM!!!!!” I can’t do this right now……….. It’s too much!!!!! That poor little baby!!! Log in to Reply giogio March 8, 2011 I hope they do not kill these kids off. What is the point. We dont see them anyway. Log in to Reply appleridge March 8, 2011 Ughh This Jake Stuff Really pisses Me Off Robert Guza JR, You Are No Claire Labine So Dont Rip Off Her BJ/Maxie Story With Jake & Joslyn. You Wont Do Near The Justice It Deserves. Plus Killing Off a toddler Just For Shock ALWAYS BACKFIRES!!! Log in to Reply Kelly8970 March 8, 2011 If indeed GH goes this way, I don’t get why? Why close off any possibility of future storyline potential between Jason and Jake. It’s another dumb move made by TPTB. And I doubt I will invest my time in GH if this is the direction they take. I will watch Jason and Elizabeth in this storyline because together they are amazing but then I will be done wih my 20 year viewership of GH. Log in to Reply GHfan-4now March 8, 2011 OMG! THAT PICTURE!!!!!!!!!! Log in to Reply timepass March 8, 2011 NOW is a good time to stop watching for me. Log in to Reply SoapArmageddon March 8, 2011 Guza, please don’t kill that little boy. It’s bad karma. You wait and see if GH’s ratings don’t go down again. Log in to Reply giogio March 8, 2011 You see- this is something that really pisses fans off. We try to be nice and loyal. We really do. But why do this, and cant the TPTB realize we do not look forward to watching if we know we have to witness such horrific stuff. Dont Get It. And I dont know how the actors could stand working this stuff. They have kids of their own. Log in to Reply baycity March 8, 2011 I know that GH needs to do some serious cost-cutting, but I don’t see how they could be saving much money killing off this kid. He can’t cost that much and he’s barely on. Log in to Reply cookooclock March 8, 2011 While I can see WHY they’re choosing to mow Jake down ala Zack Brady, I don’t have confidence that they can execute it like Days did. Days started laying the foundation of Chelsea relationship with Bo/Hope and how irresponsible she was. To me, it was very organic and heartbreaking. This storyline is coming out of no where….have we seen Jossyln sick? Besides mentioning Jake alittle more and 2 people(Michael and Siobhan) being told of Jake’s true parentage these last two weeks….this is lazy writing. Plus, I love the little boy that plays Jake!!! He is too cute for words Log in to Reply Scooter Smith March 8, 2011 Just when I was starting to watch again. If they Kill Jake, I will never come back! Damn you Guza! Damn You Frons! Frons: Ok, they can have Rebecca Herbst back, but lets show them nothing comes without a price. Guza: Let’s kill the Liason kid. Frons: I love it, cut the heart out of our biggest fan base, this will make ratings skyrocket! Log in to Reply bklyn729 March 8, 2011 I’m really hating ABC/Disney/GH right now. What purpose does it serve to kill off Jake. I was never one for conspiracy theories but sure does look like they are trying to erase Jason & Liz’s connection. I won’t be watching this storyline-can’t stomach the violence against kids. I know that Steve & Becky will rock their scenes together. I hope all the Jake/Liz/Liason fans tune out & don’t support this travesty!! Log in to Reply jockteen10 March 8, 2011 I really hope they don’t kill Jake. But right now it’s looking as if they will. Log in to Reply Nicole_CJ March 8, 2011 I don’t know if it’s Guza or Frons that likes to see children in danger 6 or more times a year on GH, but someone needs a therapist. Also, i don’t understand the shift to Elizabeth being a bad parent when up until recently she was the best parent in PC.(she’s still a better parent than 95% of PC) I can see it now this storyline is going to be about Jason,Sonny, Brenda, Carly or anybody in the mob orbit grieving a loss child. When this story should center around Jason, Elizabeth, Monica and the people in the hospital who have had more contact with Jake. Log in to Reply alstonboy4315 March 8, 2011 GHFan4now– Kristian Alfonso didn’t earn an Emmy nod that year for that story, I’m afraid. Log in to Reply Regan Cellura March 8, 2011 As a cancer survivor – I really didn’t want to get on my cancer podium in my spoiler blog – allow me to point this out. When you are diagnosed beyond Stage 1, that means your cancer has spread. Now, the differing stages defines how far, Josslyn’s diagnosis means it has spread to OTHER organs! A kidney transplant would not be the cure-all for her cancer. EPIC FAIL on GH’s part if this is the route they are going. EPIC FAIL! Log in to Reply Marezi March 8, 2011 I am looking forward to all the scenes coming up for this story line about Jake. Esp. Lucky/Liz/Jason. Just wish Carly would ask for the organ mother to mother and not send Jason to do the asking. I will not be turning my TV off because a fictional child will die. Did fans stop watching DOOLs when the girl ran her little brother over, did fans stop watching when BJ was killed off? Didn’t think so and since I never did turn it off because of BJ I won’t turn it off because of Jake. I read that Carly tells Jason about she might be the one that hits Jake, and Sam is telling the cops she may have hit Jake so I guess we can say the ones that confess are not the ones that hit the child. So I am going with Lisa or Theo. Anyone think that Brendas baby is either in Rome where Brenda has been all this time or in or close to Port Charles. I havent’ seen any new kids on sight so they haven’t shown him yet. LOL I wonder if Johnny knew what Theo was going to do with the bomb? If he was aware it would take Brenda and Sonny out or if he just made a bomb for Theo not knowing where it would be used. Otherwise how will Jason let him live because you know if Sonny finds out he had anything to do with it Johnny is as good as dead. Sonny has put this guy in padded room and that had nothing to do with Sonny’s wife. Brenda almost being blown up and kidnapped will be the “you die now scum” for Sonny. Jason won’t be able to talk him out of it. Wonder if Lucky and Irish get married on St.Patricks Day? How fitting. Will they be in green, have a lot of shamrock decorations, will there be little leprechauns running around? LOL Log in to Reply GHfan-4now March 8, 2011 [quote] but it does appear that little Jake MORGAN is nearing the end of his days in Port Charles. [/quote] I’m being totally honest when I say this: Heaven help the hand that pens this story because the wrath from this will be FIERCE! They thought they got backlash before??? Hmm. IMHO, they haven’t seen ANYTHING. I’m not even speaking just as a Liason fan now, I’m speaking as a general fan of the show. It’s gotten too damn dark over the years, and this just takes the cake for me. That said, I agree with cookooclock as far as this storyline goes. When the storyline happened on Days, it was terribly sad and indeed earned Kristian Alfonzo a PRE-Emmy nod that she should have won that year, but nonetheless, that storyline was set up from the beginning and DOOL wasn’t so kill heavy as GH has been over the last I don’t know how many years. It was also pre-horrific writing and ill-conceived plots on DOOL as well. And it wasn’t all of a sudden a child get’s sick around the same time another child of no relation gets killed!!! How disgustingly convenient for this show. If you’re going to tell a heartbreaking story like this, you can’t do it at a breakneck pace just to get folks to tune in for the sake of a ratings jump and pat yourself on the back like some colossal douche. People can see right through that bull. Had this been set in place AT LEAST a few months before with Joss being sick instead of having Carly run around town like a chicken with her head cut off trying to find crap on Brenda and Dante, and Jax sitting on the sidelines, I would still, no doubt be angry and pissed and vow not to watch and curse Guza and Phelps and ESPECIALLY Fronz to the high heavens, but at least, AT THE VERY LEAST, the storyline would make some, SOME sense and not look like it came out of left field. “Cut the heart out” is right. Edit: Kristian was PRE-nominated. Never got nominated. Shows you how screwed up the system is. Log in to Reply GHfan-4now March 8, 2011 Alston, thank you for that info! As soon as I wrote that, I thought ‘now, was she actually nominated???’ I had to look it up and she was only ever pre-nominated three times. Log in to Reply Regan Cellura March 8, 2011 @Marezi Yes, Lucky and Siobhan’s wedding is on Thursday of that week which is St. Patty’s Day. Log in to Reply cookooclock March 8, 2011 The more I read about this storyline, the more discgusted I feel. In Guza’s twisted mind he is “punishing” Jason, the whole reason that Jason gave Jake up was to “protect” him from the dangers of the mob. The fact that (if the spoilers are true) Jake might die by “””natural””” causes, would be a huge slap, since even as Lucky’s son Jake it didn’t save him. Which I’m sure will feed Fron’s agenda for a JaSam baby, since Jason would realize that he could be a father in public since the world is already a dangerous place. I like the idea of a jasam baby, why can’t we have BOTH of Jason’s kids alive. It happens all the time..sheesh Log in to Reply debbie March 8, 2011 [quote=baycity]I know that GH needs to do some serious cost-cutting, but I don’t see how they could be saving much money killing off this kid. He can’t cost that much and he’s barely on.[/quote] This isn’t about saving money. This is about cutting all ties between Jason and Liz and trying to force fans to give up on Liason and worship Guza/Frons’ chosen couple JaSam. Too many fans still love and want Liason so they must be destroyed. It wasn’t enough to rewrite Liz to be a mentally unstable skank and Sam as some heroine. It wasn’t enough to make sure Liason had little or no interaction for years and to never give Jason scenes with Liz or his son. All Guza’s machinations and RH, Liz and Liason are still beloved by too many fans. Since his machinations didn’t work, RH had to be fired but that didn’t work either so Jake has to die. This is disgusting and will probably end up having the opposite effect to what he wants. Instead of Jake’s death making people forget Liason and adore JaSam and their new baby, it will probably make viewers hate them. As far as I’m concerned, any couple who needs the death of a child to prop them up isn’t worth crap. Log in to Reply alstonboy4315 March 8, 2011 Yeah, GHFan4now– Her only nomination was in 1985. I have never thought that Kristian Alfonso was a great actress, but she did some great work during that storyline. I agree that she should have at least been nominated that year. Log in to Reply SC March 8, 2011 GH hiring back actress Rebecca Herbst was the best decision they have made in a long time. I guess it was too much to expect that the show learned a lesson from her firing and the outrage amongst fans – so much so that the brass hired her back. For all the reasons Elizabeth Webber is a favorite and the masses were rightly angry over her planned “storyline dictated” exit… so too is Jake. He is an extension of Elizabeth and a legacy character in his own right. That GH would kill him off this way and NOW is incredibly disgusting and a prime example of why the show has become unwatchable. I have wanted an overhaul and General Hospital to be fixed/saved for some time, but if they actually air this ‘tragedy’ with Jake they deserve cancellation and I won’t care one bit that the show will be off the air. They have FAILED viewers at every turn for too long. Log in to Reply caogra March 8, 2011 Guza isn’t capable of an original storyline. Almost all of his are copycats. Now he is going to rip one of the best story ever?! Off with his head! Fire him NOW! Log in to Reply GHfan-4now March 8, 2011 [quote=alstonboy4315]Yeah, GHFan4now– Her only nomination was in 1985. I have never thought that Kristian Alfonso was a great actress, but she did some great work during that storyline. I agree that she should have at least been nominated that year. [/quote] ******************* I agree, alston. At the most… I always thought she was beautiful, lol. But I thought that storyline involving Zack should have earned her the nomination as well. Log in to Reply Carol2 March 8, 2011 Another hit and run whodunit? Isn’t this like the fifth or sixth? Weren’t both Liz and Sam already in those stories?? This is also, what, his third rip-off of the BJ storyline? The first two sucked, why will this be any better? Because Kristen Storms isn’t putting on a bad wig to play Joss or Jake? Will we see any reaction at all from Liz, or will this be about stony sadness from Jason and endless weeping from Lucky (who forgot about his children as soon as Greg Vaughan was fired)? Log in to Reply WriteRight March 8, 2011 Wow. For me it just gets reduced to, why kill off the only bio-baby of Jason who is arguably the most popular male character on the show despite them trying to promote the Jedi mind trick that it’s Sonny? And it is further cruelty when you consider that Carly and Sonny always have had Jason sacrifice and do for their kids, no matter what, while knowing that he has been a better parent than both of them put together by abandoning his rights to keep his child safe. I’ve just never liked killing off kids since they killed off Brooke’s Laura on AMC. Wow. Log in to Reply No Daisy March 8, 2011 Not to be harsh, but..How did GH decide that of those two kids that Jake was the expendable one? He is Jason’s not-so-secret love child and that in itself would provide years of great storytelling. No offense to Joselyn but wht will they do with her? Send her off camera for two months then soras her so she can date some bad boy? You can’t put her with little Cam cause that would just be creepy once a piece of little Jake is inside of her. And they don’t seem to care at all about Spencer so I doubt they will be an it couple. Geez, I can’t believe I’m talking about toddlers being couples! Hasn’t Elizabeth suffered enough as a mother? IMHO, I’d rather see the changes in Carly after experiencing a loss of this magnitude, especially since HER OWN MOTHER went through the same thing. Remember Bobbie, GH?Guza just can’t get it right. Putz. Log in to Reply PurpleRocks March 8, 2011 Regan, you are so right. How are they going to explain Joss being all OK after just the kidney transplant if it’s Stage 5 cancer? Now assuming it’s not really stage 5 cancer and she still has a chance to live with a kidney donation, why does Jake have to die for that? Can’t someone live if they donate a kidney? Maybe children can’t live if they donate a kidney? My point is, why does Jake have to die for this story? Couldn’t they write a story where Joss gets a kidney from another donor that’s not a character on the show? To me, Jake dying means: -Another child needlessly dying -No future Jake/Jason/Quartermaine storyline -Liz being thought of as a bad parent -Liz freaking out and blaming everyone and their mothers of running down her son on purpose and going into a downward spiral of self-destruction digging her character into a deeper gutter -All the mobsters and their women thinking that it’s OK to have a child in the mob b/c if he doesn’t get killed by a gunshot to the head, he might just get hit by a car and die. -Another dark and depressing storyline on GH instead of something sweet and uplifting. I really hope Jake doesn’t die and makes a miraculous recovery, with or without his kidney going to Joss. Like others have said, the BJ story only worked and was super successful b/c Maxie was sick on screen for a long time and BJ and Maxie were close cousins and loved eachother. And all the adults loved eachother and were involved and knew what all this meant to eachother. Jake dying and Joss getting his kidney is not the same b/c we hardly see Joss and the two kids don’t even know eachother. Carly and Liz hate eachother and will not be there to support eachother. It’ll probably turn into a Jason/Carly mushfest while Liz self-destructs. I am so tired of seeing Liz self-destruct. And so tired of seeing Jason/Carly hogging the screens and trying to make us feel sorry for them when they both chose the mob willingly. If Jake dies, and Jason goes on about how he’s sad b/c he never got a chance to get to know his son and spend time with him, I’ll just be thinking, that’s because he chose to stay in the mob and raise Sonny/Carly’s kids instead of leaving the mob to be with his own son… Log in to Reply Ghost Of John Abbott March 8, 2011 Guza will get his revenge on all of you GH fans by having Elizabeth be the one that mows Jake down as punishment for having to rehire Rebecca. Since Jake and Josslyn are never on screen we have no emotional attachment to them as we did with BJ or Maxie plus you don’t have actors on canvas good enough to pull off the magic that Felicia, Bobbie, and especially Tony created with the original story. Log in to Reply baycity March 8, 2011 I recently said that I don’t like kids on soaps. But come on! How can you look at little Jake and not feel your heart melt? I’m still hoping they’ll pull a rabbit out of the hat somehow and this won’t happen. Log in to Reply appleridge March 8, 2011 And GH Aint Saving Money By Killing Jake. Were Lucky If The Kids Are On Once a month Log in to Reply PurpleRocks March 8, 2011 Me too baycity! I hope that the ppl at GH purposley put this false rumor/spoiler out so that everyone gets riled up and angry and then when the story actually happens, Jake lives, and everyone is super happy and relieved causing them to be happier with GH than they would have been if there was no rumor at all… Log in to Reply keanna March 8, 2011 As always thanks for the spoilers, Regan!!!!! Like everyone else have said this is really sickening!!!!! |( |( |( |( The only reason the BJ/Maxie story worked beautifully was because Maxie was really sick at the time and we all saw it. Plus Claire Labine was writing it and we all know Guza’s no Claire Labine. He only does things for shock value. Like you said Regan, how are they going to explain this one, we haven’t seen Joss in months, now all of a sudden she has Stage 5 cancer and needs a kidney. Killing off Jake (if the spoilers are true) would be ONE of the BIGGEST mistakes GH has made. There are years of storyline potential with Jason, Jake, and the Qs. This will cause a HUGE backlash and people WILL tune out.Especially if not too long after Sam finds out she’s pregnant. Log in to Reply giogio March 8, 2011 GH has gone too far with this. Just when things are really good they do something that is so discusting, Im not sure if the actors will defend the story line. Kids are sick in real life- why must it be part of daytime drama, when there are alot of stay at home moms watching. Becky has 3 kids in real life. If I were her, I would have passed on the invite to stay and do this horrific story. AMC would have picked her up maybe, or maybe she would have gotten something on Prime Time. So the saying goes – BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR. Log in to Reply curacaoman March 8, 2011 Jake is a Quartermaine male, therefore in Guza’s eyes needs to be obliterated. Log in to Reply curacaoman March 8, 2011 Can’t they find Brenduh’s baby with Jax to save Jax’s child with Carly? Or is that Jake, who was switched at birth with Liason’s real baby? Log in to Reply mayjadjor March 8, 2011 I would have thought Liason fans would LOVE this story. For years, I’ve heard that Jason really loves Liz and that the only reason they are apart is because of the danger to Jake. If Jake dies, shouldn’t Jason run into Liz’s arms and tell her he loves her and wants to be with her forever? No, you say? That’s because the only thing connecting Jason and Liz is the defective condom baby. Think how JaSam fans felt, when our couple (who were really a couple, btw) were destroyed to prop Liason and their plot point baby when all Sam wanted was a child with Jason. When the paternity test went down in 2006, the groundwork was clearly laid for a paternity switch. And in the years that followed, Jason never claimed Jake and Liason got no forward movement as a couple. All soaps have pairings that some fans wanted, but the writers never wrote. Liason being ships passing in the night and never getting together is a soap staple. And Liz has just had a baby, (Aiden) with her first and true love. Someone she was actually in a relationship with and out in the open with. I understand Liason fans being upset that after all these years, you never got your couple or your love story. But killing Jake would just be a continuation of the story that has been told for them all these years. Jason and Liz were doomed from the start and not meant to be. That’s the way they’ve always been written, and that’s why Jake’s death makes so much sense. Log in to Reply alyssa21 March 8, 2011 When I first read about Rebecca Herbst’s firing, I thought TPTB were purposely trying to tank the show. When I calmed down about it (a little), I realized they were just horribly disconnected from what viewers want and who viewers connect and root for. Elizabeth Webber is an integral part of GH and always will be. By extension, so are her children, especially Jake, because he is also Jason’s son. When she was re-hired, I felt a glimmer of hope, that TPTB finally understood Elizabeth’s importance on-screen and by extension her family’s importance. I don’t know who came up with this lame and contrived story, but they should be fired. Guza will not be able to hit the emotions that Labine and her writing staff did with Maxie and BJ. I can say this definitively because he is already starting out on the wrong foot. Stage 5 cancer, all of a sudden, without any prior symptoms? On the same night Jake is hit? A kidney donor the very minute she is diagnosed with this illness? It is all sooooo contrived. Not to mention people can live with one kidney! As a fan of the show for more than 15 years, I am disgusted and horribly disappointed by the writing staff and their lack of originality and lack of forethought. I will miss the potential storylines Jake would have given the show and I will miss the last remaining connection to Liz and Jason. Log in to Reply kgbmc March 8, 2011 They could explain it if it was Aidan not Jake who is injured, although he is not walking yet. Either way it is unfortunate and I would argue unnecessary for ratings at this point Log in to Reply GHfan-4now March 8, 2011 Since Jake and Josslyn are never on screen we have no emotional attachment to them ***************** I respectfully disagree with that. Liason fans have had a heavy attachment to Jake since the beginning ~ he is the last link between the couple since, thanks to TPIC’s, they no longer acknowledge even being in the same town. Liz fans in general have had an attachment as well, to all of her children. Many complaints came from the fact that GH would hardly let the kids talk. But if either kid is onscreen any less, it would be Joss since TPTB don’t know where she is either. And even less than that would be Nik’s son, Spencer. But no matter affiliations or fanbases, or anything that separates us, since plenty of people who are not part of either camp and are admittedly not Liz fans are just as angry, the point is, a majority of us (respectfully, I will not speak for all fans of the show), don’t want to see another child die. GH has had a hovering dark cloud reigning above it’s studios for years now. It’s too dark and too damn depressing too often and for many people who just don’t want this storyline to pass, it pushes the limit. Log in to Reply JAQ March 8, 2011 [quote=alstonboy4315]Oh “DAYUM, DAYUM, DAYUM, DAYUM!!!!!”I can’t do this right now……….. It’s too much!!!!! That poor little baby!!![/quote] Did you look at that innocent face of his??? Yea its happening. TPTB want to rewrite BJ story for all the newbies that didn’t suffer like we did back in the day. THey want the “new generation” to have something to talk about for years to come. Log in to Reply troymcclure March 8, 2011 STUPID STUPID STUPID!!! You don’t kill off the one kid that already has years of built in storylines, if a kid has to die, kill of Cameron or Spencer. I’m neither a Liason or a Jasam fan but I think it’s pretty disgusting what GH is doing to the Liason fanbase and I think it’s gonna backfire. I’m certainly not gonna be cheering on Jasam having a kid anytime soon. Log in to Reply cokeyloveshersoaps March 8, 2011 EVERYBODY WHO HATES THIS STORY ARE NOT ALL LIASON FANS just thought i should say that. I am sure that people would not be as upset if it was not for this looking like some kind rush job u can tell that this is something they just pulled out of their u know whats i have hated Guza and Frons for years i have always known that they were nothing but women and children haters this more than proves it to me as a woman i have stopped watching this show for a couple of years now only catch a few scenes here and there but not enough for me to care if this show stays on the air or not. Log in to Reply GHFan777 March 8, 2011 I don’t know one person that is happy with this story line. Everywhere I read articles online on this, outrage is prominent. How can TPTB be so stupid to even consider going through with this horrible and extremely unpopular story line. I guess they really don’t care what the fans want. It is almost like they are trying to tank the show. I cannot condone this story line. I went from being through with the show to coming back, and giving it another chance, after BH was rehired…now I am back to being through with this show once again. Log in to Reply JAQ March 8, 2011 PURPLE ROCKS-great post. I agree with everything you said. Except for the part about people blaming Liz. I do not see that happening. I am not nor was I ever a fan of Liz. And even I know it would be ignorant to blame her for this horrific accident. Log in to Reply emsnana March 8, 2011 I agree with whoever said they would not turn their tv off because of a fictional child dying. He is a very cute baby but I think they are killing him off hoping that it will stop all the hype about Liz and Jason. I mean it has been years since they were a couple and I for one hated their pairing then and this way they will have know ties. Just like if Brenda doesn’t resign I hope they kill her off that way people will quit hoping that she will come back for Sonny. This is all just my thoughts and hope I didn’t upset anyone about my thoughts on Brenda and jake dying Log in to Reply tamela March 8, 2011 WriteRite–Jedi mind trick trick that is Sonny? You said it. Sonny needs a vasectomy and a room at Shadybrook. This is by far, the most disgusting stunt GH has ever pulled, but I don’t think Jake dies, and I won’t believe it until I see a funeral. As far as Joss goes, I’m sorry that’s she’s ill, but her cancer is advanced… I’m hoping that this s/l brings about a shift in the power base: that Jason either strikes out on his own or puts the smack down on Sonny. For me, thats where it should go. Log in to Reply cokeyloveshersoaps March 8, 2011 This is not just about Liason there are some people who are not Liason fans who hate this s/l u have Liz/LL2/or maybe there are people who just love Jake and don’t want him to die because there are so much s/l potential with him and Jason and the last remaining Q’S.Kids are getting sick or murdered everyday i am constantly seeing it on the news and it breaks my heart so lets not make this about Lisaon fans i know that this is fiction but so is everything on this show that we are all very passionate about. Log in to Reply PurpleRocks March 8, 2011 Thanks JAQ! Regarding ppl blaming Liz, I was just thinking back to when Carly accused Liz of being a bad mother b/c Cameron almost burned the house down and Liz went into the burning house to save Jake, and how some ppl (not all) were blaming Liz during the carnival accident when Jake got injured. So I wouldn’t be suprised if ppl blame Liz for not watching Jake when he runs out the house. It’s not easy being a mom and you can’t always be able to have 100% attention on your kid, esp one that wanders off if you’re preoccupied for a minute. My mom had one of those silly child leashes for me when I was a kid cuz I liked to wander off. I found it in her closet when I was in highschool and was horrified when she told me she used it for me and my brother once in a while, lol. Ohhhh I so hope we’re all wrong and the ppl at GH are just playing with us and Jake doesn’t die. Log in to Reply mipeony March 8, 2011 “Steve finds Lisa going through his office as part of Johnny’s scavenger hunt.” I wonder if this means Steve will finally get a clue where Lisa is concerned. I hope when she is finally found out once and for all, Patrick and Steve bend over and kiss Robin’s butt for a good long time after siding with the devil against her. Log in to Reply OldGHFan March 8, 2011 Didn’t Guza once rip Claire Labine because the Stone story “was all she had”? It appears she had the BJ story as well and Guza is ripping it off. I just think it’s going to be hilarious when it airs because everyone here knows that Guza’s story is going to pale in comparison. Why does ABC keep this man?!? Log in to Reply Regan Cellura March 8, 2011 I did a google search for some basic info… Stage V: Bi-lateral Tumor. Tumor in both kidneys which explains the need for the transplant. Stage IV: Metastases to lung, liver, bone, or brain. How they intend to explain that one or if they ignore it remains to be seen. Now, I don’t know if a bi-lateral tumor with no matastases still puts you at Stage V. A fever is a GOOD indication of pediatric cancer. There are other indicators, but with Joss’s age, they may not necessarily be as easily detected. I can personally tell you that my diagnosis happened rather quickly. Personally, I am felling like this will be a drive-by cancer story with Jake’s death thrown in. I hate that. At first, I was thinking how can Ingo not be working if his daughter has cancer? Obviously, this is why. Log in to Reply tamela March 8, 2011 purplerocks–Nobody in their right mind would blame Liz for being a bad mom if something happens because she is momentarily distracted–aligned to a fan base or not! Not from what I see. Anyway, who is in that car? Log in to Reply Ravennite613 March 8, 2011 Yes any Stage V Kidney Cancer would most likely means Wilms Tumor and if the need for a transplant would suspect bi-lateral tumors, but even then a doctor would go in and see if the tumor can be shrunk. Also, how will they explain that Joss tumors are only isolated to her kidneys when you pass Stage iV its usually means that at least lymph nodes have been affected. Really really hate this story, and many of us have touched on the issues of why this is going to backfire in Fruza’s face. As a Liason fan, I have no shame in admitting that one of my main reasons is because it is Frons edict to make sure all aspects of Liason are dead. I don’t care who believes they were or weren’t a couple they have a child that Frons hates. Everything about Liason Frons hates, so I knew there was no way Jake was ever going to remain either on the show or Jason’s kid. Yes he may be a fictional character but if I can’t be upset by it then someone needs to tell Frons that he has a hard-on for a fictional couple. I am a Liason fan and I will scream it loud and proud and I also have no shame in saying that this will make me hate all things JaSam. I can’t help how I feel nor do I expect anyone to agree with me, its how I will feel. Jake’s death (if it happens) will occur because Frons is paving the way for a JaSam baby. Log in to Reply williamjc March 8, 2011 I’m not looking forward to this storyline but it cracks me up how many “Liason” fans are going absolutely nuts over this. What did you think would happen? Okay, so Becky didn’t get fired and that’s good because she didn’t deserve the treatment being handed to her. But they were going to destroy the Liason connection one way or another just the way they destroyed the LL2 connection. Oh I can hear you now, “They’re not killing Aiden!” Add the word “yet” to the end of that sentence. And they only reason to pull Lucky into Liz’s orbit again is to further along the whole Lucky and Siobhan romance. LL2 is dead and Liason has a very faint heartbeat. It was beautiful while it lasted but lets be real – no soap romance lives forever unless you are seriously old school. I mean Angie and Jesse Hubbard old school, ya know? Otherwise, sooner or later, it will go downhill… My problem is that it won’t be nearly as good as the BJ’s Heart storyline. It’s shock for shock sake and that’s sad. Someone should remind Guza of the pitch he probably made to have Jason on the outside while Jake was being raised by a cop. “Think of the stories down the line!” “We can milk this for YEARS!!!” “Medical problems, morality issues, etc…” “We can have Jake be the Jason Quartermain the fans never got!!!” Oh I can do this all day because it’s easy and more importantly… it’s true. So now all that gets thrown under the bus because of lazy writing…ugh… And GH was doing so well too… oh well… Log in to Reply mayjadjor March 8, 2011 Raven… Jake doesn’t need to die for JaSam to have a kid. They could have written in a miracle pregnancy. They could have written it as Jason really wanting a baby with Sam, which is what he actually wanted for years before the SOS. They could have switched Jake’s paternity. But it’s clear that Jason was never meant to be Jake’s father for the long term. I think TPTB just put it off too long. They should have done a paternity switch in 2007 if they were going to do it. But I believe the plan all along was to cut the Jason/Jake connection somehow. Soaps always have a way of self correcting, and whether you are a Liason fan or not, you have to admit that this pregnancy was never written as a happy thing between 2 people in love. It was written as a mistake and angst for JaSam and LL2. Liason fans saw an opportunity for more, because they wanted this couple for years. But that’s not what was written. What was written was that Jason was in love with Sam and that getting Liz pregnant was a huge betrayal and something he was too ashamed to admit because he didn’t want to hurt her. If the only thing that could possibly get a couple together is an accidental pregnancy, then that doesn’t say much for the pairing. It’s like Sonny and Lily all over again. They corrected that by killing both Lily AND the kid. I’m sure there were Sonny/Lily fans too. What is killing soaps is not danger or angst or even kids dying. That’s always happened in soaps. What’s killing soaps is spoilers and the fact that people read something they don’t like, and all of a sudden, they take their toys and go home. I’m a GH fan, and I’ve watched through a lot of crap, and I’ll continue to watch because my loyalty goes beyond 1 couple. Log in to Reply babydoll23 March 8, 2011 It’s simply amazing to me that Frons and Co. think this will save GH. They made the mistake of firing RH thinking this would shut the fanbase up. It completly backfired.Now as punishment for having to rehire Becky and wipe the egg off their faces, Frons and Guza are deciding to kill Jake and pave the way for a Jasam baby. How wonderful, that they think this is putting a nail in Liason’s coffin? Hmm don’t think so, if anything it puts a nail in General Hospital’s coffin.I’ve been gauging the temperature on other soap boards and guess what? MOST fans are completely disgusted! I am proud to say that even non Liason and non Jasam fans think this is stupid! Once again the whole Jasam crap is on the backburner and what’s the topic of conversation today? Jason,Liz and Jake. This soap is run by stupid people thinking they are punishing a fanbase,instead of looking a the big picture THEY ARE TANKING THE SOAP! I am laughing even while I type about this dismal subject.I truly believe that Frons and Guza are arrogant enough to believe GH can’t be cancelled, oh boy are they wrong. I can guarantee that this storyline is a step in the right direction! Log in to Reply got2luvmel March 8, 2011 [quote=mayjadjor]I would have thought Liason fans would LOVE this story. For years, I’ve heard that Jason really loves Liz and that the only reason they are apart is because of the danger to Jake. If Jake dies, shouldn’t Jason run into Liz’s arms and tell her he loves her and wants to be with her forever? No, you say? That’s because the only thing connecting Jason and Liz is the defective condom baby. Think how JaSam fans felt, when our couple (who were really a couple, btw) were destroyed to prop Liason and their plot point baby when all Sam wanted was a child with Jason. When the paternity test went down in 2006, the groundwork was clearly laid for a paternity switch. And in the years that followed, Jason never claimed Jake and Liason got no forward movement as a couple. All soaps have pairings that some fans wanted, but the writers never wrote. Liason being ships passing in the night and never getting together is a soap staple. And Liz has just had a baby, (Aiden) with her first and true love. Someone she was actually in a relationship with and out in the open with. I understand Liason fans being upset that after all these years, you never got your couple or your love story. But killing Jake would just be a continuation of the story that has been told for them all these years. Jason and Liz were doomed from the start and not meant to be. That’s the way they’ve always been written, and that’s why Jake’s death makes so much sense.[/quote] LOL prime example of why there will always be Liason vs JaSam…. redonkulous! On a side note… why can’t Jason have two children? Is it so hard to believe he can shoot more than blanks? Why can’t both Liz and Sam’s kid be siblings? There is a such thing as grownups sharing custody and their children getting along in the real world. If anything, I think that’s why TPTB would choose to kill Jake, so they wouldn’t have to trouble themselves with writing the two children for or against each other for the next ten or so years. If Jake stays alive and Sam has a baby, they’d have to actually write something for both of them whether its fondness for one another or animosity. If Jake dies, Sam’s baby will be just like the rest of the kids… thrown in the background till its SORAS’d years later. Looks like both JaSam and Liason fans are losing out on storyline with the death of Jake. Log in to Reply kgbmc March 8, 2011 T6his hurts Jason the most as a character now he can never redeem himself. Log in to Reply babydoll23 March 8, 2011 [quote=got2luvmel][quote=mayjadjor]I would have thought Liason fans would LOVE this story. For years, I’ve heard that Jason really loves Liz and that the only reason they are apart is because of the danger to Jake. If Jake dies, shouldn’t Jason run into Liz’s arms and tell her he loves her and wants to be with her forever? No, you say? That’s because the only thing connecting Jason and Liz is the defective condom baby. Think how JaSam fans felt, when our couple (who were really a couple, btw) were destroyed to prop Liason and their plot point baby when all Sam wanted was a child with Jason. When the paternity test went down in 2006, the groundwork was clearly laid for a paternity switch. And in the years that followed, Jason never claimed Jake and Liason got no forward movement as a couple. All soaps have pairings that some fans wanted, but the writers never wrote. Liason being ships passing in the night and never getting together is a soap staple. And Liz has just had a baby, (Aiden) with her first and true love. Someone she was actually in a relationship with and out in the open with. I understand Liason fans being upset that after all these years, you never got your couple or your love story. But killing Jake would just be a continuation of the story that has been told for them all these years. Jason and Liz were doomed from the start and not meant to be. That’s the way they’ve always been written, and that’s why Jake’s death makes so much sense.[/quote] LOL prime example of why there will always be Liason vs JaSam…. redonkulous! On a side note… why can’t Jason have two children? Is it so hard to believe he can shoot more than blanks? Why can’t both Liz and Sam’s kid be siblings? There is a such thing as grownups sharing custody and their children getting along in the real world. If anything, I think that’s why TPTB would choose to kill Jake, so they wouldn’t have to trouble themselves with writing the two children for or against each other for the next ten or so years. If Jake stays alive and Sam has a baby, they’d have to actually write something for both of them whether its fondness for one another or animosity. If Jake dies, Sam’s baby will be just like the rest of the kids… thrown in the background till its SORAS’d years later. Looks like both JaSam and Liason fans are losing out on storyline with the death of Jake.[/quote] Exactly, its a lose/lose situation. Log in to Reply daisychains7 March 8, 2011 The ego of Frons and Guza is unbelievable. It’s almost like saying “yeah, we’ll give you Becky just to shut you up. But don’t expect to ever get Liason. We are going to sever the last connection they have, just so you know we mean business. And P.S. Jason is gonna raise a miracle baby with Sam!” What is the logic?!?! I don’t care about Jasam or Liason (I like LL2) but this makes no sense to me. And why is the Josslyn shit even necessary?! Obviously they’re going to give Jakes kidney to her… Makes me sick. Too dark. Real life is ugly enough. We are in a recession and we watch soaps to escape! We want romance, adventure, and the families with grew up with. Comfort food. This is disgusting! Log in to Reply sunnydays25 March 8, 2011 [quote=curacaoman]Jake is a Quartermaine male, therefore in Guza’s eyes needs to be obliterated.[/quote] I’m sure that after he kills Jake, Guza will somehow concoct an asinine s/l about how Jason is actually NOT a Quartermaine…so he can kill the Quartermaine connection and not lose Jason, his cash cow (sorry, Steve, don’t mean it to sound so uncomplimentary!!) I hate this s/l for all the reasons others have shared. I think that Guza is selling the audience short and needlessly pissing off many fans…Liason, Jasam and those who don’t give a crap about either of them (that would be me!) He’s never going to achieve the critic acclaim that the BJ story did. Just stop the insanity, Bob!! Log in to Reply Ravennite613 March 8, 2011 May – I know Jake’s death is not necessary for a JaSam baby but I truly don’t believe that Frons knows that Log in to Reply LizzieVee March 8, 2011 Jake may have been an “accidental” pregnancy but the history of Jason and Elizabeth is that they have always loved each other. Jason and Sam are the result of his having to take care of her because Sonny knocked her up and he needed Jason to take care of his mistake to protect his marriage. Sam didn’t even want the baby — threatening to get it aborted. That’s how much she wanted to be a mother. So, that relationship started off as Jason doing what Sonny wanted him to do for him not because he and Sam saw each other across the room and sparks started to fly. Jason didn’t even like her. And, I have to say that I did watch Jason and Sam with an open mind in the beginning and they did nothing for me. They certainly weren’t must watch tv. And, I also have to say that I really didn’t pay attention to Jason and Elizabeth in the past either but that night in the penthouse, they just clicked for me and I fell hard for them, something I never did with a soap couple. I saw their history, their families history, romance, nurse, enforcer, I saw it all and was expecting it all. This is a couple that even the magazines rated higher than LL2 and Jasam, not just the fans. Sam is a one dimensional character — action and that’s it. Elizabeth is a multi-dimensional one who has done it all and its been proven. I will always believe that the reuniting of Jasam was dictated by Frons and by doing that they had to deliberately destroy Liason, even if it hit them hard in the ratings. Which it did because Liason brought ratings ranging from 3.3 to 2.4 in 2007. Jasam is what, 1.5-1.7 these last 2 years? Never in my 40 years of watching daytime and primetime soaps have I ever seen a hugely popular couple destroyed as completely as I have seen Liason. They had to do anything they could to make us forget everything Sam did in the past and for Jason to take her back but you know what, it didn’t work. Because no matter who is your favorite character or couple, soap fans know their history better than the writers and actors and they don’t forget and they don’t forgive. Once gone, they don’t come back. The destruction of Liason and the death of Jake has cost them me and I may be a little past the all important 18-49 age group they still need me. This show has cost me my love of the soap opera and that’s sad because I used to live for it. Oh, and you know all the money issues GH is having? Well, they could have saved tons of money because they already have a built in ratings winner — the wedding of Jason Morgan and Elizabeth Webber with the boys at their sides and sprinkle in some of Carly’s mean looks as she watched her “best friend” marry the only woman he would place before her would have been priceless. Log in to Reply GHfan-4now March 8, 2011 This rant is not directed to anyone personally, but to vent my frustrations. Some comments have gotten too ridiculous for me to continue ignoring. So, here goes: OMG!!!! I’m so over it being “all about the Liason fans” being in an uproar! Yes, Liason fans are pissed, and IMHO, speaking as one, we have every right to be pissed that the couple we never got for REAL had a child that is soon to be erased from our screens. My goodness gracious a life, heaven forbid a few folks get pissed about a fictional show, yet, we come here more often than not to discuss said fictional shows day in and day out and voice our frustrations over plot and character and our disgust over various storylines. Want to explain to me how the hell this is any different??? We all have our couples, we have our fanbases and favorite characters that we hate to see destroyed for the sake of bad writing and plot, yet, one fanbase needs to “snap back to reality” because it’s fiction??? And because he’s a fictional child on a fictional show??? Okay. I would like someone else to try on that shoe for me. Put it on your favorite couple’s foot and please, please, PLEASE, tell me how it fits. I am not a confrontational person by any means and I have no personal problems with anyone on this site, and I certainly don’t advocate round robin arguing, but when something like this out of nowhere storyline–and it IS out of nowhere because there has never been any HINT leading to Joss’s sickness–is seen as having a fanbase effect and nothing more, when people have posted time and time and TIME again that they are NOT involved in one fanbase or another, have NO care for Liz or Jason OR Liason, yet, they are just as angry, just as irked, just as disgusted, and have vowed to change the channel as well, I get irritated and totally turned off because it’s clear that some, not ALL, who don’t care either way are NOT looking at the big picture. It’s fine to dislike a character, it’s fine to dislike a storyline, it’s fine to not care either way and to continue watching the show when other people say they won’t in regards to Jake dying. That is why we don’t all share the same brain. But IMHO, Liason fans have every right to be pissed that their last piece of history is being destroyed for plot purposes just the same as General Hospital fans have the right to be pissed that yet ANOTHER child is being sacrificied on the show to force a ratings bump. Log in to Reply Ravennite613 March 8, 2011 GHFan-4Now – Just WOW. That was….Is there even a word to describe how good that last post was. From this Liason fan..Thanks Log in to Reply GHFan777 March 8, 2011 GHfan-4now This rant is not directed to anyone personally, but to vent my frustrations. Some comments have gotten too ridiculous for me to continue ignoring. So, here goes: OMG!!!! I’m so over it being “all about the Liason fans” being in an uproar! Yes, Liason fans are pissed, and IMHO, speaking as one, we have every right to be pissed that the couple we never got for REAL had a child that is soon to be erased from our screens. My goodness gracious a life, heaven forbid a few folks get pissed about a fictional show, yet, we come here more often than not to discuss said fictional shows day in and day out and voice our frustrations over plot and character and our disgust over various storylines. Want to explain to me how the hell this is any different??? We all have our couples, we have our fanbases and favorite characters that we hate to see destroyed for the sake of bad writing and plot, yet, one fanbase needs to “snap back to reality” because it’s fiction??? And because he’s a fictional child on a fictional show??? Okay. I would like someone else to try on that shoe for me. Put it on your favorite couple’s foot and please, please, PLEASE, tell me how it fits. I am not a confrontational person by any means and I have no personal problems with anyone on this site, and I certainly don’t advocate round robin arguing, but when something like this out of nowhere storyline–and it IS out of nowhere because there has never been any HINT leading to Joss’s sickness–is seen as having a fanbase effect and nothing more, when people have posted time and time and TIME again that they are NOT involved in one fanbase or another, have NO care for Liz or Jason OR Liason, yet, they are just as angry, just as irked, just as disgusted, and have vowed to change the channel as well, I get irritated and totally turned off because it’s clear that some, not ALL, who don’t care either way are NOT looking at the big picture. It’s fine to dislike a character, it’s fine to dislike a storyline, it’s fine to not care either way and to continue watching the show when other people say they won’t in regards to Jake dying. That is why we don’t all share the same brain. But IMHO, Liason fans have every right to be pissed that their last piece of history is being destroyed for plot purposes just the same as General Hospital fans have the right to be pissed that yet ANOTHER child is being sacrificied on the show to force a ratings bump. Great post!!!! I agree with everything you just said….and thank you for posting it. Log in to Reply LizzieVee March 8, 2011 You know, if Jasam is such a strong couple so in love that they can handle anything, you would think they’d be able to survive even with Elizabeth and Jake in their lives. So, this tells me the deliberate destruction of Liason (and yes it is deliberate) and the need to kill Jake just goes to prove how unstrong they really are, that their love won’t survive because of one woman and a child. That’s the only way they could work and everyone knows it. Now, with Becky back (and that was deliberate too), don’t kill Jake and let’s see how well this couple will do. I really think tiic don’t have much faith in them, hence trying to eliminate the competition and sweep history under the rug, hoping everyone forgets the past. Log in to Reply GHfan-4now March 8, 2011 And thank you, Raven and GHFan! After reading so many varying comments, I just felt the need to say something to continue defending the reason for people having absolute disdain for this entire storyline. Log in to Reply EricasEvilTwin March 8, 2011 Fan 4 now I agree with your post as it applies to MOST of the viewership – I take zero issue with people being mad and heartbroken about a fictional character and I totally agree, voicing are passions about the show and its characters is the whole purpose of having a board. I also agree that the writing APPEARS like its going to be rushed (but as I have said before I am going to reserve judgement until it ACTUALLY airs), and I see the issues about violence. I even see the point of having yet another Q exiting the canvas, since they are one of my favorite families (as you know, I have even been advocating that Jax be made co-chair of ELQ, perhaps recasting ned and basically resurrecting the corporate wing of the show that once existed.) What I take issue with is three thing/themes, and these three themes dont seem to be advanced – or at least not said very often – by viewers who are NOT part of the Liason fan base. I am not saying sam fans are perfect, I am not saying all liason fans are bad, I am just saying that I dont find these particular arguments are very sound and they are typically advanced by significant number of Liason fans. 1. The ranting about how this is being done to prop JaSam and a JaSam miracle baby. NOT SO. People are entitled to FEEL thats so, just like Sherri Shepard is free to believe the earth is flat, but its not rooted in anything factual. They COULD have had Aiden get cancer and needing cells like Kristina. They COULD have shown the whole family getting checked since the siblings would all be half kids and in doing so they discover that aiden and Jake are a match because they are FULL siblings. Easy Peasy, no more Liason baby, same sick kid angle, and no backlash for JaSam. And thats just ONE way to change the paternity. They could have shown liz monkeying with the paternity results for aiden, Brooke catches her and finds out that Liz switched the paternity results that Helena the unwittingly switched back, making Aiden a Niz baby after all. Jason, finding out that liz is willing to switch results does a second paternity test and finds out Jake is not his. Again, easy peasy, it paints liz in a bad light (which is what the conspiracy theory claims)and erases the liason connection. Moreover we dont know Sam is going to get her miracle baby. We know its on her mind, but I have heard no less than 5 different spumors about Sam. Remember this illness thing is also spumored to not be as resolved as Patrick is saying and franco and theo are still mucking about town. I would also argue that every couple gets torn apart at some point and moved in to other story when there arent kids being shared and I dont see those fanbases arguing its a conspiracy. Notice Lucky asked about Sam 3 times (this is a woman he once loved and is still friends with) but he hasnt even gone by her room to check on her that I recall. Lulu has had what 3 scenes with Johnny in the last year. So again, feeling that the objective is only to prop JaSam is an emotional response to a distressing situation for the fanbase, but its not rooted in fact. 2. TPTB shouldnt dare to do this because Liason is the biggest fan base as demonstrated by the mags and I am tuning out because they dont care about liz. Really? Mags?? Thats the standard? I have no doubt that Liason is a BIG fan base, but the CarJax, JaSam, JoLu, Lante, and BrenSon fan bases are pretty big as well and I will say again about liz, a true LizFF will watch to see if she gets story going forward before deciding whether or not to tune out. If Liz fans tune out over this after tPTB rehired her and she still could get big story all I can say is what is the point of keeping an actress if her very big fan base does NOT watch anyway. 3. The show is too violent and if they have to kill a kid kill carlys because liz has suffered too much and carly deserves it. HUH?? If you are against killing a kid, be AGAINST killing a kid, but when folks add the bit about making it another baby instead, they undercut their argument. As for suffering, Carly had two miscarriages, a child that got shot in the head and was in a coma for a year and then later raped in prison, she was kidnapped in labor and her husband is too busy chasing his ex to support her – and except for one of the miscarriages all of that is fairly recent. Liz’s big heartbreak in the last year was getting busted for cheating – not the same as sitting vigil for your comatose child. The idea that Carly hasnt suffered makes me question whether I am watching the same show. Log in to Reply mr.sam mccall1 March 8, 2011 First I want to say the kid doesn’t have to die and GH will keep going on after the death of Jake. I really don’t like to get into the back and forth of the JaSam V Liason but when Liason ending GH was suppose to end and get canned. That was 3 years ago. There has been major deaths of bigger characters than Jake. And GH is still here and will be here it’s not a knock n the Liason fan base but (BY READING SOME OF THE COMMENTS)yall don’t make up GH’s fan base. Now with the supposed Sam/JaSam thing.PPL act like JaSam couldn’t have a kid while Jake was on this show. And there is no backsatge plot against Jason and Liz cause if there was Liason wouldn’t have got “together” in the first place. And please stop the with Guza is for Sam/JaSam cause that sure ain’t true. Cuase first yall were saying SB wanted Liason and hates working with KeMo. And then it was Guza is for Liason also. S/l’s prove that Guza DAMN sure ain’t for JaSam. Sorry the little dude is dying but Gh will keep going and there dang sure ain’t no backstage plots against Liz/Liason Log in to Reply mr.sam mccall1 March 8, 2011 THANKYOU EET I CAN’T AGREE MORE WORD UP IF YOU EVER IN PHILLY DRINKS/DINNER/MOVIES ON ME. Again I don’t get into the war cause Im SamFF yall can take Jason bring back GV and get KeG started again. But the Liason fan base doesn’t tower over every other fan base. This show has many different and very big fan bases. IF Liason was the sole reason lets say 50% or more ppl tuned into GH it would be the Liason show or General Liason. This show has a overall fan base and sadly after Jakes death GH will go on. And don’t forget some of the ppl on this very site sad “GH WILL BE CANNED CAUSE THEY ENDED LAISON” That was 3 years ago. Log in to Reply LIASONADDICT March 8, 2011 I don’t know who said it, but why can’t Jason have two kids if Sam does have her miracle baby That would be a great story for the future when Jake finally founds out who his father his and than resents Jason and his half brother or sister for being able to grow up with Jason No kids have to be killed or maimed P.S. Regan did u have use that picture Log in to Reply sassysdreams March 8, 2011 mayjadjor – Well said. EET – Also very well said. Log in to Reply mk1814 March 8, 2011 This is so sick. I am totally disgusted by this storyline. It is just an another excuse to drive Jason and Liz apart and to beat down Liz. I can’t watch this show any longer. It is officially off my DVR. Log in to Reply BobbieN'MonicaFan March 8, 2011 I’m totally against this storyline only because they’re not using Bobbie. You can’t redo BJ’s heart without Bobbie. not to mention this is ANOTHER dead Quartermaine. Log in to Reply EricasEvilTwin March 8, 2011 Again, you dont know they arent using bobbie until it airs. Log in to Reply GHfan-4now March 8, 2011 I will just say this in general response: 1st, I don’t want any child to die. That’s been my issue all along, because I’m sick of the violence against children on GH in particular because it happens too often. And I KNOW it happens in real life. I see it, I work with it every day, so that argument is pretty futile for me. 2nd, If it HAD to happen, I feel that the storyline should have been set in place months ago and played out overtime. Joss gets sick on a Thursday, according to spoilers, and on a Friday, Jake gets hit. It’s too convenient for my taste and not well thought out. How it plays onscreen is another story, but so far, I’m not happy. Like I said, no matter the child involved, I don’t want to see it happen, but Liason fans are going to see it as a backlash against the couple, no matter who says or knows what, the same as I assume any other fanbase would see it as a backlash if their non-couple were in the same boat. 3rd, I absolutely ABHOR getting involved in the fanbase wars because I honestly don’t care who likes a couple that I like and I cannot STAND debating why I like someone or berating someone for choosing another side to stand on. Who CARES??? But general Liason fans seeing it against their non-couple is just how it’s going to be seen. Is it right? Is it okay? Does it sever ties to Liz/Jason? Is it agenda by Fronz/Guza/Phels? Does Liason make up the majority fanbase? That’s all up for debate amongst peers. Again, Liz/Liason fans are going to think one way about the situation, and unfortunately, that can’t be changed. IMO, I see it all as venting personal opinions on the matter and more anger at the brass than anything. Whether it’s true or not, well, unless we have transcripts of Fronz saying this or that to Guza and Phelps or have mic’s in his office, we don’t know for sure unless we’ve heard it from the horses mouth or read it in an interview. But from personal experience, I see folks speculating about this entire situation regardless of what’s truth or not. 4th, I just wish it wouldn’t be seen as THIS fanbase versus ANOTHER, because quite frankly, it gives me a headache and I think it all brings the issue at hand–yet ANOTHER death, and that of yet ANOTHER child–to petty bull and the back and forth starts and the ‘my opinion is the only opinion that matters’ arguments get underway. I’m part of the Liason fanbase, and I’m upset. And I just wish it were less about this, that, and the other in regards to Liason and JaSam, and more about the fact that some folks just aren’t happy with the general storyline and won’t be happy and will have their opinions and thoughts and angers and fears and whatnot. When we bring fanbases into it and generalize, it becomes a problem and people automatically take sides and show fangs. 5th, Will the show get cancelled? Well, who knows. Do I think one fanbase can tank an entire show??? Well, if that were the case the show would have been cancelled when Luke/Laura were done, when Frisco/Felicia were done, when Luke slept with Felicia and people were loud about being disgusted with that storyline, when Liz/Lucky were done, when Brenda and Sonny were done, when Skye and Jax were done, etc. IMO, times and viewership have changed so again, who knows. It truly depends on how many people who say they will no longer watch the show in this case will actually STOP watching this time, and for good. But the truth of the matter is, and I feel like a broken record saying this, it ain’t all about one group of pissed off folks. Again, when people start making it about one fan base vs. the other, we’re not looking at the whole picture and it becomes a problem, even for people who don’t care for either couple, as they’ve voiced so within the thread. Log in to Reply Salley13 March 8, 2011 As a fan of GH for over 30 years I have seen quite bit. These past few years I am sad to say I watch less and less because there is nothing that interest me anymore, I use to DVR and FF thru most the show but now I find reading a recap is better that watching the show. With this latest decision I have to wonder why. Are TPTB just trying to sabotage the show? I don’t understand why they are killing Jake. The fact that I am Liason fan aside I have to wonder what kind of story this will be when his grandmother & great grandfather don’t even know who he is. Will they mourn after the fact? Will they even be told? Wouldn’t Luke have to be there Jake is technically his grandson too. I just don’t see a true heartbreaking story coming forward with weeks of angst. This story will be told in a week’s time then back to mobular business. This show is has become a for lack of better terms a joke. If they had wanted an interesting story it could have been built as Joss become ill alongside Brenda trying to find her child but when she does he/she is extremely ill and Brenda’s child would be a donor for Carly’s. That would have been must see if it was done properly. But we have the death of Jake a Webber/Quartermaine. I find it sad that Quartermaine legacy on GH is now in the hands of Jason and Brook Lynn. At least the Webber’s have Cam and Aiden so there might be some potential down the line. I just wish I could get the old GH back. Log in to Reply AHeart4Fiction March 8, 2011 I am so disgusted and disappointed in the “writers” of this show. I mean so many people have said it that it is like beating a dead horse. Oh and just to put it out there, I’m an LL2 fan. (1).Jason can have two children. It adds more drama and conflict. (2).Gives JaSam more angst. (3).Keeps the already fluctuating ratings from plummeting. (4).Does butcher three characters in the process. I could go on but this has left me completely drained and at a lost as to whether or not I am going to continue to watch GH. Log in to Reply RockiDreams March 9, 2011 Thanks as always for the spoilers. I really enjoy reading them. I think this is all going to add up to good soapy stuff and perhaps give Liz albeit a sad storyline, something to do besides mooning after two men who for now have moved on. I was never a Jason/Liz fan – so I have to say I have been happy about that being over and done with and sorry for their fans at the same time. In any case, I am looking forward to all of the storylines. Believe me, after watching Y & R, B & B, GH is ten times better. At least in my eyes. Log in to Reply mayjadjor March 9, 2011 I get that this is a Liason fan gurl site, but I can’t believe how many people actually think the ratings will take a dive over some kid we never see dying. This is what soaps are all about. Bo and Hope lost a son, and they are actually a couple, together for many years, married and with tons of history behind them. Kids die on soaps all the time. Just because Jake is the only thing that could possibly bring Liason together doesn’t mean their kid gets a pass. And, seriously, for anyone claiming to be a Liz fan… Why would you even want her with a man that only wants her for her child? The story Liason fans wanted was never written. Point blank. They never got a love story. They never became a couple. The entire story written in 2006 and early 2007 was about Jason knocking up someone while he was still in love with Sam. And Lucky has been raising Jake for his whole life. Why should Jason waltz in now, after Lucky has raised and bonded with that boy, to throw around some sort of parental rights he gave up? The SOS was a mistake. Many fans know it and TPTB know it, which is why we get this story now. If BH hadn’t gotten pregnant again and had that pregnancy written into the story, we’d be getting a Jake paternity switch and everyone would be all pissed off about that. So, stop watching if you must. But GH will go on. Log in to Reply liason4real March 9, 2011 The SOS was a mistake. Many fans know it and TPTB know it, which is why we get this story now. ========== I guess this means the whole Jax/Sam/Sonny SOS was a mistake along with killing off Sam/Sonny’s baby? Sam fans threw a fit when her baby died. That little boy is a real cutie pie. Log in to Reply BobbieN'MonicaFan March 9, 2011 EricasEvilTwin — Yes, I do know Bobbie isn’t in this storyline. An inside source has confirmed Jackie has not taped anything since Summer. And they’re already into April with the filming, so it doesn’t look like she isn’t going to be at ALL involved. Log in to Reply mayjadjor March 9, 2011 [quote=liason4real]The SOS was a mistake. Many fans know it and TPTB know it, which is why we get this story now. ========== I guess this means the whole Jax/Sam/Sonny SOS was a mistake along with killing off Sam/Sonny’s baby? Sam fans threw a fit when her baby died. That little boy is a real cutie pie.[/quote] I’m not sure why you’re bringing up Sonny/Jax/Sam, because that was a totally different type of story. 4 extremely popular couples weren’t destroyed for the benefit of 1 non pairing. And I watched Sam’s child’s death real time. It was sad, but that’s the story that was told, and I loved it. I still love it to this day because of how SBu and KeMo played it. This coming Jake story could be just as great if people would give it a chance. And I can’t regret Sam’s baby’s death because it brought JaSam even closer together and started them on the road to wanting a life and a family together. It will have the opposite effect for Liason, since Jake is the only reason they’d be together anyway, but it could be great for BH, who is one of the best actors on the show. This story will involve so many characters and I’m excited about it. Log in to Reply tamela March 9, 2011 BobbieN–I’m sorry to hear that Jackie Z. isn’t being brought back for this s/l. I’m a huge, HUGE Bobbie fan, and knowing that she won’t be here at this time is a travesty. *tears* Log in to Reply doodleynoodle March 9, 2011 I could hardly stand to read this. Saddest thing ever and not in a creative, heartbreaky way. In a low-down, sucky, lack of talent way. I can’t believe GH is going there. This is low…even for the current slash and burn regime. Shame on you Guza! This is too much for me… Log in to Reply GAgal28 March 9, 2011 OK I just have a huge issue with this story. I like Jake, he’s a cute kid. He’s a legacy kid for goodness sake. He’s a true legacy kid by both the Q’s & the Webbers. That alone should be enough to NOT kill that kid off, but of course to GH that means NOTHING. This GH’s M.O. though- hurting women & kids with a chance of possible death. I heard rumors of this a while back & was utterly disgusted, I am still utterly disgusted. One of my main points of frustration with this story is as Regan has said, it’ll probably be a drive by story. That is Guza’s M.O.- ripping off old stories, & having fast finishes. I don’t want a rip off story, NOT from Guza. The BJ/Maxie story was heart breaking, mainly because the families involved were very close & because the story itself was built up for months. It was touching on all levels, cause the audience was connected to it. Where has Joss been all this time? I mean gosh just look at her Mama… running around town sticking her nose into other’s business, trying to divorce Jax. Where has Joss been? Where have the scenes with Carly & Joss been? Where has the build up for this story been? No where. There is no build up, except these few measly weeks before it happens. A stupid hit & run that has happened too many times already on this show. And I wonder if Bobbi or Maxie will be involved in the scenes for this story too, cause you know they are central figures to the story Guza is ripping of. Oh wait…. Bobbi isn’t on screen anymore & Maxie is now second fiddle to Lulu. Yeah… this is going to work out real well for GH. Ridiculousness, absolute ridiculousness. It’s no wonder they hired Becky back. I mean the fans were already angered over her firing, & then they plan to kill off her legacy baby which no doubt has upset us even more. So, they needed to hire her back just to save face. I’ve never once used the word “hate” ever when talking about GH, cause I’ve watched for years with my Mama. But I hate Guza & I hate Frons, & all I feel is bitterness towards them & towards the show that I once loved & endeared myself to. The only soap I have an endearment to right now is OLTL. And I thank my lucky stars for it… the little soap that could. Log in to Reply EricasEvilTwin March 9, 2011 Killing off baby Lila so close to delivery was sad but it was compelling story and personally for me, linking Sam forever to Sonny would not have been good for the character going forward. Ending the pregnancy gave Kelly the opportunity to show what a talented actress she is and in many ways earned her a fan following as up until then her character was just thrown into random storyline after random storyline instead of truly having a storyline like she did with jason/lila – here sam cried and we cried for her. Meanwhile NLG too had a chance to shine as did Burton, Mo and RiH as we watched two sets of parents, one pulling together in relief and one pulling together in sorrow. I would take a story like that over the whole oh and yeah we forgot to mention she was married five times even though she already was investigated twice made up nonsense of 07 meant to prop liason. I also thought it was cruel to rip baby hope away from her when they JUST killed off Lila and then Danny and THEN give Liz Sam’s dream baby, but I never imagined Frons sitting in his office somewhere twirling his handle bar mustached and smiling with glee that his dasteredly plan to screw ME (EET) over personally was working. I just thought wow this is a crappy way to run a railroad because if kelly stays now your stuck with all this random horribleness to try and undo and sure enough some people will never get past what they wrote that summer as far as the character goes. The did the same thing to melissa archer on OLTL, albeit not nearly as damaging, so I know this is just the way business sometimes gets conducted. Its called Hardball. Wouldnt be how I would do it, but I know it happens. That said, I dont know any sam fans that “threw a fit” when the story happened and I dont recall any time that the police had to be called in to investigate threats as was reported in SID about BeckyNation. Log in to Reply liason4real March 9, 2011 Killing off baby Lila so close to delivery was sad. ——— I had no idea that Sam named her baby Lila. I thought the baby was named after Sonny’s mother? Adella? Log in to Reply ladyofthelake March 9, 2011 I’m all for killing off some kids on this show. Throw in Morgan to, he’s useless. They have saddled Liz with way to many babies. I don’t care if GH decides to make a kid sick or kill them off. I’m game. I’m not a Sam fan or Jason/Sam fan for anybody who thinks just because I’m okay with them killing off babies on this show. Log in to Reply JAQ March 9, 2011 This isn’t about saving money. This is about cutting all ties between Jason and Liz and trying to force fans to give up on Liason and worship Guza/Frons’ chosen couple JaSam. Too many fans still love and want Liason so they must be destroyed. ****************************************** Are you kidding me??? J) How did you come to that conclusion?? WOW you have quite an imagination!! 0:) They wrote Jake out when RH was fired. The writer’s wanted her to go nuts after losing her child. They also took the opportunity to turn this into another “BJ” story. BJ’s storyline was an icon to GH back in the day. They will never be able to match the mark that storyline made on GH. In otherwords, this is a SICK way of TPTB to “think” to up ratings. To copy an old storyline. I hope it falls FLAT for them. When did Sam become a hero?? I missed that episode. Log in to Reply JAQ March 9, 2011 Purple………I am a HUGE Carly fan. However, I will be the first to say she has no right to criticize anyone’s parenting skills! lol Log in to Reply JAQ March 9, 2011 GHfan You and I have had many a discussion about this. I don’t understand how one group of people are coming up with such “dilusions” about why this boy is dying. NOBODY is happy with this storyline!! Can we all agree on that?? Its a sad story, but come on people, it’s a show. So intense some of these posts are. Why is Liason fans taking this storyline so personal?? What is up with that? I love my GH. I come on here when I have something to say. And what I have to say is we are all adults here, PLAY NICE!! There is NOTHING more to this storyline than some dilusional head writers thinking they can go back in time and recapture a storyline that was an ICON to GH. Nothing more. Its all about misery and ratings. |( |( |( |( |( |( |( |( |( You know gh4now..You still my favorite posting buddy! lol Log in to Reply JAQ March 9, 2011 [quote=BobbieN’MonicaFan]I’m totally against this storyline only because they’re not using Bobbie. You can’t redo BJ’s heart without Bobbie.Not to mention this is ANOTHER dead Quartermaine.[/quote] I am curious if Bobbie is on screen. She is the grandmother of Carly’s children. IF they didn’t ask her to be on…….and something tells me they didn’t, it already is a half azzed written storyline I am curious to see if Monica will be there for her son Jason and mourn the grandchild she never knew she had. LOVE your screen name!!! Log in to Reply GHfan-4now March 9, 2011 LOL, thanks JAQ. Ditto. And I’ve seen post after post on this site and others of people either affiliated with both or neither fanbase who are upset about this storyline. We know there will be backlash and it’s coming from ALL sides of GH fans in general, not just one side or the other. But I swear if this show thought a talking donkey with buck teeth could raise ratings with a red and white target on it’s butt, they’d put him front and center and involve him in every storyline. Somehow, he’d come on the show as like a childhood pet of Dante, or something! They already tried a virus bitten monkey a few years back that infected people, I’m SURE another circus animal is just around the riverbed. :LOL: Sigh. Just a little light hearted humor amongst all the dreck. Log in to Reply JAQ March 9, 2011 GHfan..we are playing “post tag” if there is such a thing. I was just posting to you elsewhere. Honestly what it comes down to, is this is going to be an emotional story. And it is weighing on all of us. Nobody is to blame, nobody is happy about Jake dying. It is all about Elton & his crew and ratings. Nothing more should be read into it. Now I am off to bed…will check to see if Perkie posted, I will talk to you in the morning! Good Nite! Log in to Reply kmk137 March 9, 2011 This is Crazy the only purpose they would have for killing that poor baby is to make way for Sam to have a baby and raise it with Jason. Now I may be more of a fan of Liz but this is so not the way to give Sam her miracle baby!!! Leave Jake, even if they refuse to put Liz and Jason back together the potential for story with jake/Liz/Jason when Jake is older is far greater then some stupid storyline that people can’t get behind! Log in to Reply EricasEvilTwin March 9, 2011 Sam asks Jason how he would feel about naming the baby Lila and he tells her he knows his grandmother would love for the baby to have her name (at the 2:45) mark. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfH3UYfWeF8&feature=related Again, we dont know a JaSam baby is coming and certainly they didnt need to kill jake in order to accomplish that if that is the goal. The could undo Jakes paternity in any number of ways. Log in to Reply grannyswatching March 9, 2011 As far as I’m concerned the only reason they are writing this story this way is so Jason and Elizabeth with have absolutely no connection what so ever. Also, so that Jason won’t feel guilty about having a child with Sam and allowing the child to be around him. They should have Josslyn being the one run down and Jake having the cancer so Liz and Jason can have some kind of scenes together. The thing is GH I’ve already quit watching you since 2009 so do whatever you want, hopefully others will follow my suit and GH will just be off the tv altogether. As much as I hated to see Becky go, in some respect the story would have had more impact to the whole show if Liz and all her boys were blown up by Theo, then GH would of had a story to tell. Log in to Reply strawberrygurl22 March 9, 2011 I seriously thought the house would of be gone before Jake. Log in to Reply EricasEvilTwin March 9, 2011 If they changed the paternity, why would jason feel guilty about having a child with sam?? But hey grannyswatching – you would rather see GH go off the air and all the people that depend on the show for their livelihood lose their jobs than for the show to simply go on without your participation as a viewer all because you didnt get your couple. hmmm….. Log in to Reply monieet March 9, 2011 DO NOT KILL OFF JAKE. WHAT IS THE POINT. IF YOU NEED TO HAVE ONE LESS KID, WE DO NOT SEE JOSSALYN THAT OFTEN. LETS KEEP IT THAT WAY. THE JAKE DYNAMIC AS JASON BEING HIS DAD IN THE FUTURE IS WAY TOO JUICE TO STOP BY KILLING HIM OFF NOW. I AM STILL HOPING FOR A LIZ AND JASON GET TOGETHER. FIND A WAY TO MAKE THIS WORK. DO NOT KILL JAKE OFF… Log in to Reply JasamForever March 9, 2011 Yeah, the posts on this site with regards to this issue are just puzzling. I have read so many posts of viewers that state they will never watch the show and are done after such and such but some of these same individuals are still commenting on episodes of GH. In my opinion if I cut ties with a show, I cut everything and don’t even bother with reading spoilers or attempting to make my voice heard, as I would not be watching the show anyway. If individuals want to turn off GH and be done with the show because of Jake dying, then so be it. It is the cycle of a soap. I am sure there will be a storyline at some point that will attract viewers and the cycle will continue. It seems that Jasam supporters are a bit more controlled on our thoughts and opinions on this site. I don’t notice comments with regards to turning off a show because of the way a storyline is being written. If for some reason the Jake storyline causes Jasam to be torn apart, then so be it. Although I love them as a couple, I don’t live and breath Jasam and would still continue to watch as I love other characters and pairings on the show. It could be argued that Jasam has their couple but not without issue. As I have stated in another post I am a Jasam fan but a Kemo fan first. I started watching GH in October of 2009 when apparently Jasam were being reunited. There are times, and even now where I am so frustrated with the same dialogue being dispersed between them, and the idea that Sam does not have a life beside sitting on Jason’s couch waiting for him to return home. I want to see a powerful, independent woman in Sam. My favorite moment of Sam with regards to Jason besides the death of Baby Lila is during the “breakup,” and Jason realized that Monica was responsible for Sam’s accident and injury and he called Sam to relay the information. When Sam told Jason, to go to hell and to not act like he has not hurt his mother worse as he has pretty much been a terrible son to her, I thought whoa. I love this Sam and the nail on the coffin was hit by that comment. Intersting in making that reference as this storyline is making a redux as well. Even though the hospital scenes were endearing recently, I am getting tired of the same lines over and over. Jason to Sam, “I love you, and glad that you are in my life.” Sam, ” I love you and I am so happy for my wonderful life” or something to that affect. We just had this same dialogue on Valentines Day. Good lord, can we be a little more original. This is what happens when a guy is a head writer for a show. But in my comment, it is to say that I have continued to watch the show and will continue to show my support for GH as long as possible. Just to note, I have watched earlier videos of Jasam on YT. Log in to Reply EricasEvilTwin March 9, 2011 Great post JS4E Log in to Reply sassysdreams March 9, 2011 JasamForever – Well said! Log in to Reply emsnana March 9, 2011 Jasamforever–Well said. I am not a fan of any couple I have watch soaps every since I can remember and I am now 59 so that is a long time.Couples are not suppose to stay together and be happy. People would get bored watching. I will sit with a box of tissues and cry while I am watching but I will keep watching it is just a soap. I never considered Jason and Liz a couple.Jake was the product of a one night stand as I recall it. One minute she wanted him and the next she didn’t and then she got all bent out if shape when he chose Courtny. Log in to Reply giogio March 9, 2011 emsnana – im with you Log in to Reply JAQ March 10, 2011 I have watch soaps every since I can remember and I am now 59 so that is a long time. I never considered Jason and Liz a couple. Jake was the product of a one night stand as I recall it. ************************************** Well said!! I too am not a fan of either couple. I think its kinda juvenille to pick sides and then come up with such crazy thoughts!! J) Maybe because I am older? I do know that Jason clearly loves Sam. And it was a one nighter for Liz. I do know that there is no need to kill this little boy off. But the reasons have nothing to do with Sam or Liz or Jason. It is nothing but a re-do of a past ICON of a storyline. Log in to Reply js3557 March 10, 2011 I guess all the times Liz and Jason made love, met at the safe house and told eachother that they loved eachother was just a figment of my imagination. I guess the fact that Jason continued to see Liz, make love to her and tell her that he loved her even after they decided that he shouldn’t be with Jake didn’t happen either, huh? Log in to Reply JAQ March 10, 2011 How many times did Jason & Liz have sex? I can remember twice. How many times did Jason make plans with Liz, only to stand her up? Three times. If a man wants to be with you, he will. Jason left her sitting in an airport reading a book. How many times did they go out? Zero times. As far as love goes, they had and have a very deep friendship with one another. I am happy that they love each other. They should. They had a child together. I am NOT a Sam fan. However, I don’t perceive Jason & Liz as ever having anything but great sex twice and a beautiful baby. JMO Log in to Reply js3557 March 10, 2011 They had sex the NOP, at the metro court, at the safe house, at Liz’s house after Emily’s funeral…and those were just the times shown on screen. Like any soap couple, the other times are inferred. (They were also interrupted by Carly at Jason’s house and interrupted a few times at the safe house.) We see Jasam sexing it up once a month or once every two months, but it is implied and accepted that they do it more than the show displays it. As for being stood up, Jason always stands up the woman he is with. Look at how many times he stood up Robin, Courtney and Sam for stuff involving Sonny and his clan. You see Liason as a one night stand….I see them as a magical couple who were deeply in love. To each their own. I won’t change your opinion and no one could possibly change my opinion. Log in to Reply JAQ March 10, 2011 They had sex the NOP, at the metro court, at the safe house, at Liz’s house after Emily’s funeral…and those were just the times shown on screen. ************************************* This is a TV show!! What you think they are having sex off screen?? I certainly can’t remember all those dates, and please don’t dig them up for me. They are meaningless to me. Your right, there is no way I would change your mind. You live in a magical 0:) environment concerning those two, I wouldn’t dream of taking that from you. lol Log in to Reply js3557 March 10, 2011 Not literal sex off screen JAQ! LOL! I think that we are supposed to believe that the couples have sex off screen because if it only happens when it’s shown on screen I pity those poor people! Log in to Reply JAQ March 10, 2011 js..lol Kinda like I was wondering if Dr Steve & Olivia were doing it off screen! Log in to Reply Leave a Reply Cancel Reply You must be logged in to post a comment.