RUMOR REPORT: Is Ron Carlivati Heading to General Hospital?



Is One Life To Live's head writer Ron Carlivati packing up his truck and moving to Port Charles? According to OLTL's Robin Strasser he just may. The actress remarked on Twitter:
 

JUST TOLD but NOT told it wuz SECRET: Ron CARLIVATI to #GH as script writer-hopes 2 b co-head writer? Yo,I'm taking heat for leaving early?

 

 

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  1. Profile photo of
    AlistairCrane

    Watch him turn Elizabeth into a raving, psychotic, baby-stealing lunatic—he has a penchant for assassinating raped women.

    If he leaves OLTL before the end, he’s a douche. But at least maybe they could get someone decent like the Labines back to end the show with class and style.

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    appleridge

    If this is true and Frank joins him as EP than the final months of GH will be great.

    I could Ron & Garin working well as Co-HW’s. Ron has creativity & Garin knows GH history & seems to respect it.

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    AlistairCrane

    If Ron goes, him should take all his horrible creations like Aubrey, Cutter and Rama with him and make room for characters we want to see again like Tina, Cord, Cassie, Kevin, etc. God, a new head writer for the final few months of OLTL could mean the chances of Marty and Patrick returning for Cole INCREASE!!!

    But this is ABC–they have probably just brokered a deal to bring Dena Higley back.

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    appleridge

    [quote=AlistairCrane]Watch him turn Elizabeth into a raving, psychotic, baby-stealing lunatic—he has a penchant for assassinating raped women.

    If he leaves OLTL before the end, he’s a douche. But at least maybe they could get someone decent like the Labines back to end the show with class and style.[/quote]
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    Ron will most likely have all the OLTL scripts written by September.

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    GHFan777

    I think if this is true, this just might save GH. Frank knows how to produce and keep within the budget, and I agree with you appleridge…Ron has creativity and Garin knows the history…combine all three….we just may end up with a successful show…and a chance at surviving.

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    soapbaby

    Well, hey, at least GH will get an influx of scantily-clad, muscled hotness running around Port Charles. I swear, RC and FV trade near-naked men for well-developed characters and well-written long-term story.

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    Jamey Giddens

    AlistairCrane you tickle me with your stance on OLTL and rape. You are outraged that Marty was turned into a psychopath, but your very soap message board name denotes one of the most vile, disgusting rapists in daytime history. Furthermore, Passions, which you love to a distraction had the worst history of any soap making a mockery out of rape and rape victims. Wasn’t a girl on that show raped by her own hermaphrodite brother???

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    alstonboy4315

    Soapbaby—

    GH already has enough hot men running around: Johnny, Dante, Jason, Sonny, Michael, Ronny, Shawn……….. ;) ;) ;) ;)

    They aren’t always the BRIGHTEST bulbs in the box, but they can always be counted on to provide eye candy!! We don’t need the FORD brothers to invade Port Charles. Nor do we need pointless annoying characters like Rama invading the show with their bad accents.

    If Ron does join, I hope it doesn’t lead to GH jumping the shark and bring on too many newbies, then center the show around them.

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    AlistairCrane

    ^^ Lame argument Jamey, and one I’ve heard a thousand times. If you knew anything about my internet history, you’d know I’ve been using the “AlistairCrane” moniker since May 2000, well before Alistair started raping people. Passions never made a mockery of rape or rape victims, nor did JER turn any rape victims into raging, irredeemable psychos like Ron Carlivati did with Marty. So Jamey, you’re wrong.

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    Jamey Giddens

    Passions never made a mockery of rape or rape victims
    ***
    Almost every heroine on the show was raped.If that isn’t a mockery, I don’t know what is. One girl was beaten and brutally raped over and over again for months on end.

    And Sheridan Crane, the heroine of the show, turned into a maniacal bitch at the end.

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    AlistairCrane

    No she didn’t. Sheridan was fine at the end of the series because Antonio came back for her.

    The raped characters grew stronger because of their experiences, especially Theresa.

    Ron IS NOT off the hook because of what Passions supposedly did.

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    angrierblackerman

    [quote=AlistairCrane]Watch him turn Elizabeth into a raving, psychotic, baby-stealing lunatic—he has a penchant for assassinating raped women.
    [/quote]No, that’s Jean Passanante’s doing. Don’t forget that heifer is still writing for OLTL. Shirtless boys and ruined women…that’s her M.O.

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    AlistairCrane

    So basically, Jamey, what you’re saying is that it’s okay that Ron Carlivati TRASHED the character of Marty because Passions supposedly didn’t take rape seriously. GMAFB.

    The truth hurts: Ron is a HACK compared to a writer like Michael Malone.

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    appleridge

    [quote=AlistairCrane]No she didn’t. Sheridan was fine at the end of the series because Antonio came back for her.

    The raped characters grew stronger because of their experiences, especially Theresa.

    Ron IS NOT off the hook because of what Passions supposedly did.[/quote]
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    passions made fun of rape & Brutilized woman more than any other soap I have ever seen. the only reason they got happy endings in the last 5 mins was because the show was over

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    Katiebug9624

    I agree that Mary’s character has been screwed with while Todd just keeps going on his merry way. I do enjoy crazy Mary though I wish she could take out Natalie.

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    rebecca

    I HATE OLTL and Do NOT want to see ANYONE from that AWFUL show on Gh or behind the scenes. I REALLY do not ever want any of the actors coming to GH either except Ted King for the role of Lorenzo Alcazar. I HATE the dumb cheezie s/l on that show. If this is true GH has NO HOPE of staying on the air.

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    JAQ

    I think this is fantastik news! :beer:

    I am not counting GH over yet…not with what tptb are doing behind the scenes. They are making smart moves. Congrats! :beer:

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    AlistairCrane

    [quote=appleridge]I loved Passions for its camp but they mocled everything 7 way over the top and rape was at the top of that list[/quote]

    Rape was certainly NOT at the top of the list. Passions was satire, and stupid soap cliches were at the top of the list of the things they mocked.

    Meanwhile, what Passions did or didn’t do has nothing to do with Ron Carlivati destroying Marty Saybrooke. He’s a misogynist pig—don’t forget he tried to forge a relationship between Marty and the man who raped her. And then when the series ends it’s SHE who’s the bad guy. SICK SICK SICK!!!

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    appleridge

    [quote=AlistairCrane]So basically, Jamey, what you’re saying is that it’s okay that Ron Carlivati TRASHED the character of Marty because Passions supposedly didn’t take rape seriously. GMAFB.

    The truth hurts: Ron is a HACK compared to a writer like Michael Malone.[/quote]
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    Marty never killed anyone but as some HW’s like Claire Labine have asked is every character capable of murder

    As For marty being obsessive thats how she came in all crazy about Andrew and telling lies about him & Billy Douglas

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    soapbaby

    AlistairCrane and Jamey, I hate to jump into the fray but the mockery of rape on Passions made me tune out! Nearly every woman on that show was raped for pete’s sake and it was never dealt with in a serious manner but, rather the “go-to” plot point. “Walking around Harmony not raped-up…Um, let’s rape the chick up!” Theresa, Sheridan, Fancy, Eve’s sister, Julian’s mother, Jessica, I think Paloma and Simone too. Basically every woman in Harmony got raped and it was not dealt with seriously.

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    AlistairCrane

    Marty killed her therapist.

    Appleridge, your arguments are immature, tiresome and unsophisticated. It’s as if this is the only thing you can come up with to defend the destruction of Marty because I’ve heard it from you a thousand times. Marty was never crazy when she first came onto the show. She was a teenager, an orphan who’d been through some rough times. There is ABSO-F**KING-LUTELY NO COMPARING Marty’s actions in 1992 to the raging, demented, irredeemable sociopath Ron turned her into in 2010-11.

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    appleridge

    [quote=AlistairCrane][quote=appleridge]I loved Passions for its camp but they mocled everything 7 way over the top and rape was at the top of that list[/quote]

    Rape was certainly NOT at the top of the list. Passions was satire, and stupid soap cliches were at the top of the list of the things they mocked.

    Meanwhile, what Passions did or didn’t do has nothing to do with Ron Carlivati destroying Marty Saybrooke. He’s a misogynist pig—don’t forget he tried to forge a relationship between Marty and the man who raped her. And then when the series ends it’s SHE who’s the bad guy. SICK SICK SICK!!![/quote]
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    Pasions being satire does not give it free reign to be the soap that iMHO treated women the worst and soaps are a women’s medium. thats why the show never worked. Soap fans dont wanna see women being victims 100% of the time

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    AlistairCrane

    [quote=soapbaby]AlistairCrane and Jamey, I hate to jump into the fray but the mockery of rape on Passions made me tune out! Nearly every woman on that show was raped for pete’s sake and it was never dealt with in a serious manner but, rather the “go-to” plot point. “Walking around Harmony not raped-up…Um, let’s rape the chick up!” Theresa, Sheridan, Fancy, Eve’s sister, Julian’s mother, Jessica, I think Paloma and Simone too. Basically every woman in Harmony got raped and it was not dealt with seriously.[/quote]

    Passions was a satire. OLTL is not. OLTL takes their storylines seriously which is why there is NO comparing one to the other.

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    AlistairCrane

    [quote=appleridge][quote=AlistairCrane][quote=appleridge]I loved Passions for its camp but they mocled everything 7 way over the top and rape was at the top of that list[/quote]

    Rape was certainly NOT at the top of the list. Passions was satire, and stupid soap cliches were at the top of the list of the things they mocked.

    Meanwhile, what Passions did or didn’t do has nothing to do with Ron Carlivati destroying Marty Saybrooke. He’s a misogynist pig—don’t forget he tried to forge a relationship between Marty and the man who raped her. And then when the series ends it’s SHE who’s the bad guy. SICK SICK SICK!!![/quote]
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    Pasions being satire does not give it free reign to be the soap that iMHO treated women the worst and soaps are a women’s medium. thats why the show never worked. Soap fans dont wanna see women being victims 100% of the time[/quote]

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    Passions hasn’t been on the air in almost three years. Why do you feel the need to bring it up and trash it? It has no bearing on what’s currently on the air on other networks.

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    east.west

    When the behind the scenes and the breaking news make for riveting stories, THIS IS A PROBLEM!

    As for this first and foremost, Robin Strasser is a mess LMAO!

    And this will not be a good fit unless they keep him as a script writer writing character interactions.

    I don’t want to see any half naked men, Lulu remembering she was molested by someone and now she has the DID, singing and dancing, or Nancy Lee Grahn in gaudy looking getups.

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    appleridge

    Marty never killed anyone before that was my point

    AC If u dont like my comments but I am free to make them as they are my opinion and if you dont want to read them, i believe you can ignore them.

    I really dont know what else to say

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    TV Gord

    [quote=AlistairCrane]The raped characters grew stronger because of their experiences, especially Theresa. [/quote]

    You should really be a rape counsellor. I’m sure people who’ve been through sexual assault would find great comfort in this kind of twisted logic.

    What really makes me laugh, though, is when you try to pass Passions of as “satire”. That’s a desperate attempt to mask what the show really was, and that was a bad soap opera.

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    Jamey Giddens

    So basically, Jamey, what you’re saying is that it’s okay that Ron Carlivati TRASHED the character of Marty because Passions supposedly didn’t take rape seriously. GMAFB.

    The truth hurts: Ron is a HACK compared to a writer like Michael Malone.
    ***
    Not what I’m saying at all. What I’m saying is, it’s odd that you gush over everything Passions, which treated women in the most vile, disgusting manner ever, yet you’re so outraged that Marty went insane. And what does her being raped have to do with her becoming psychotic decades later? Are you saying because a soap character is raped they can’t go off the rails years later?

    Holly was raped on GL, decades later she kidnapped all the children in Springfield. Beth was molested and raped by her stepdad on gl, she trapped a man in a shed before the show was done. I am confused as to why Marty being raped means she shouldn’t have gone crazy years later? Oh and yes Michael Malone was amazing from what I’ve read of his first stint, but hello, he also did the Santis the last time he was in town.

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    AlistairCrane

    When you’re basing your argument on falsehoods it’s no longer an opinion, appleridge, it’s misinformation.

    I feel sorry for GH if this is true. There is probably only 15 months left of GH and I’d hate for their fans to endure what this OLTL has endured with this hack Ron Carlivati in charge.

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    AlistairCrane

    [quote=Jamey Giddens]So basically, Jamey, what you’re saying is that it’s okay that Ron Carlivati TRASHED the character of Marty because Passions supposedly didn’t take rape seriously. GMAFB.

    The truth hurts: Ron is a HACK compared to a writer like Michael Malone.
    ***
    Not what I’m saying at all. What I’m saying is, it’s odd that you gush over everything Passions, which treated women in the most vile, disgusting manner ever, yet you’re so outraged that Marty went insane. And what does her being raped have to do with her becoming psychotic decades later? Are you saying because a soap character is raped they can’t go off the rails years later?

    Holly was raped on GL, decades later she kidnapped all the children in Springfield. Beth was molested and raped by her stepdad on gl, she trapped a man in a shed before the show was done. I am confused as to why Marty being raped means she shouldn’t have gone crazy years later? Oh and yes Michael Malone was amazing from what I’ve read of his first stint, but hello, he also did the Santis the last time he was in town.[/quote]

    OLTL asks to be taken seriously—Passions didn’t. Two different shows, two different perspectives, two different sets of rules.

    Ahh–so you’ve obviously never seen Michael Malone’s original stint or the Marty gang rape storyline. Well no wonder you’re okay with her going psycho. If you had watched OLTL back then, you’d be as furious as I am now.

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    appleridge

    It doesnt matter if passions was a satire you dont mock rape and not atone for it

    Yes the rapemance on OLTL I did not like but Marty learned the truth & Todd was given hell for it

    But on passions, Teresa, Alistar, spile, vincent etc all raped and never paid 4 it

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    alstonboy4315

    Robin Strasser might be a little bit overly dramatic with her tactics at time, much like my girl, Victoria Rowell, but one thing that I can say in her defense is that she ALWAYS speaks the truth and ALWAYS calls a spade a spade!!

    OLTL without Dorian is not going to be even REMOTELY as interesting as it should be, just as Y&R isn’t even 1/1000th as interesting as it can be without Drucilla Winters.

    In this situation, I support Robin wholeheartedly!!! Besides, OLTL still has a LOT of mistakes to correct, and not a lot of time to do it in.

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    AlistairCrane

    [quote=appleridge]It doesnt matter if passions was a satire you dont mock rape and not atone for it

    Yes the rapemance on OLTL I did not like but Marty learned the truth & Todd was given hell for it

    But on passions, Teresa, Alistar, spile, vincent etc all raped and never paid 4 it[/quote]

    Theresa never raped anyone. Alistair paid for it with his life. Vincent was sent to prison. Only Spike disappeared without a trace.

    Todd was not given hell for it for long. Look at him now: he’s a hot shot on track for his happy ending whereas Marty was decimated. How f***ing depressing and what an insult to Susan Haskell and Marty fans! It’s like Ron C. took a bottle of acid and poured it all over the faces of Marty fans as punishment for not getting behind his beloved “Tarty”.

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    appleridge

    I think what happened to Marty had nothing to do with her rape

    She lost her baby, john & cole

    She saw Natalie having the life she wanted and snapped

    Ity was well written and acted well. SH was excellent.

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    Oh well—Ron Carlivati is not my problem anymore. As far as I’m concerned, OLTL ended on Monday when Marty left town. I don’t watch GH so I’m not invested in how Ron trashes that soap, but I do feel bad for GH fans and feel that they should know what they’re in for.

    If you can’t tell, I am a huge Marty fan. I am emotionally invested in her as a character. What Ron did to her was a travesty. Your favourites aren’t safe from this destructive piece of sh** hack.

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    rebecca

    I guess ABC really wants the fans to stop watching GH so they can justify cancelling it. That explains why they would have a AWFUL writer like him coming to the show. He is as bad as Bob Guza.

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    appleridge

    Teresa had sex with Ethan and he thought it was Gwen there was even scenes of him pissed at her and she told him u wanted it and u knew it was me. BS

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    soapbaby

    I am mixed in how I feel about Robin Strasser these days and the tweets because I feel like she stirs the pot a bit but then I think about more ad feel likf of all of the daytime divas out there she should say whatever she wants! Heck, what does she have to lose?

    With regard to RC possibly moving to OLTL, I think he would do a fine job with day-to-day dialogue but not with charting long-term story. Perhaps, Garin Wolf would offer the balance his story-telling needs.

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    AlistairCrane

    [quote=appleridge]I think what happened to Marty had nothing to do with her rape

    She lost her baby, john & cole

    She saw Natalie having the life she wanted and snapped

    Ity was well written and acted well. SH was excellent.[/quote]

    I never said Marty went psycho because she was raped. But you don’t decimate the show’s most famous rape survivor and turn them into an irredeemable psycho. The writing was AWFUL and not the first time Ron has pulled a hatchet job on good characters by turning them psycho (see Schuyler, Eli, etc.). It’s just a shame that his poison pen was allowed to destroy an iconic, popular, veteran character like Marty who has been part of the show for almost 20 years.

    If you think Dorian and Viki, for example, are safe because they’re vets, think again.

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    Jamey Giddens

    Ron C. didn’t turn Todd into an antihero,that was done years ago, by past regimes. Ron didn’t put him in a love triangle originally with Tea and Blair, again, other regimes. Also, AlistairCrane, aren’t you a fan of DAYS Jack and Jenn, like I am? Jack raped Kayla, so by your logic, should he have never been allowed to be happy with Jen?

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    AlistairCrane

    [quote=appleridge]Teresa had sex with Ethan and he thought it was Gwen there was even scenes of him pissed at her and she told him u wanted it and u knew it was me. BS[/quote]

    Your memory was broken. Later, Ethan told HER that HE knew it was her all along. The fact that you’re a Theresa hater makes me dislike you even more than your being a Marty hater.

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    alstonboy4315

    Soap Armaggeddon–

    I appreciate the support. And I love your posts as well. They are always well-written and usually make me chuckle at how ironically honest they are. Cheers!! :beer: :beer:

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    appleridge

    [quote=rebecca]I guess ABC really wants the fans to stop watching GH so they can justify cancelling it. That explains why they would have a AWFUL writer like him coming to the show. He is as bad as Bob Guza.[/quote]

    No Offense But RC is nothing like Guza. RC writes for vets and tells multi-generational story. It says he will start as scriptwriter. Maybe he will be assoc hW like Jean Passante is at OLTL

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    appleridge

    Im not a teresa or marty hater so please dont put words in my mouth that i did not say

    secondly I saw that as a re-write but it doesnt change what Teresa did

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    AlistairCrane

    [quote=Jamey Giddens]Ron C. didn’t turn Todd into an antihero,that was done years ago, by past regimes. Ron didn’t put him in a love triangle originally with Tea and Blair, again, other regimes. Also, AlistairCrane, aren’t you a fan of DAYS Jack and Jenn, like I am? Jack raped Kayla, so by your logic, should he have never been allowed to be happy with Jen?[/quote]

    I have a problem with Tarty. I would have had a problem with Jack and Kayla or Jennifer and Lawrence. I would have a problem with Jack being happy with Jen if Kayla spent her life miserable and then was turned into an irredeemable sociopath. Todd’s happiness has come at the destruction of Marty. Ron wrote that story to punish Marty fans for rejecting Tarty. Ron wanted Tarty to work.

    Tea and Blair are vile in their own right for falling in love with a convicted rapist—they are the most pathetic women on OLTL, and they have been for well over a decade.

    It’s Ron C. who let Todd off the hook for re-raping Marty. Hell, he’s the one who let Todd re-rape her in the first place.

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    But Ron executed it so he’s to blame. Doesn’t matter if someone else had the same idea–Ron brought it to life. Sicko.

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    rebecca

    [quote=jlafferty23]UHHHH

    Are you effin kidding??

    I would love to have Frank come to GH, but Ron? He’s to campy for my taste.[/quote]

    I agree,i do not want to see ANY of the sh%t RC wrote for OLTL on GH.

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    Marland Fan

    I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again… the Emperor has no clothes. Ron Carlivati won so much praise, yet more of his storylines failed than succeeded. Missed emotional beats, lightning-fast stories, character destruction. No thanks, let’s just let Garin Wolf do his thing on his own.

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    liason4real

    IF this is true congrats to Ron! A job is a job when you have bills to pay. I hope the rest of the OLTL cast and crew end up finding jobs in this tough and brutal economy.

    One last thing, I really wish there was a way to save AMC and OLTL and not just GH!

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    jlafferty23

    Don’t get me wrong, Ron has done some great things for OLTL

    But some of the stuff he does has me scratching my head, he is way to campy for GH.

    It may work for OLTL but GH isn’t that kind of soap.

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    Jamey Giddens

    We all had a problem with Tarty, Alistair Crane, I called for Ron to be fired during the Rapemance. I know that particular part in my history as an “RC Apologist” gets washed over, but we at DC collectively hated the Rapmance and bashed it, but guess what? The Rapemance has been over. Since then we got Kish, Clint going rogue, TNT, Bo and Nora’s reunion, Viki and Dorian vs. Echo and tons of other amazing stories. All soap writers have a couple of turkeys, are you still blaming Ron for the Rapemance or for what’s on our screens now?

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    lfad

    Ron C. is overrated. He would be okay with his own soap that he created, but as HW of a show with a legacy, I don’t think so.

    I couldn’t care less about GH, so big deal if he’s headed there to help write the show to its conclusion.

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    What’s on screen NOW is not good! What, you love the Fords? You liked the firings of Rachel, Schuyler, Kish and Kim? You liked Marty being trashed? Who cares if Susan Haskell acted it out well—doesn’t change the fact that it was character assassination, plain and simple.

    Ron gets a lot of praise because he replaced the god-awful Dena Higley, but the fact is, the only mark he’s left on OLTL’s history is a bad one. His crappy stories got this show cancelled.

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    appleridge

    [quote=Saturday Night]I agree. Ron is a hack compared to Michael Malone or Claire Labine. Name one great, classic storyline that Ron has written. Anyone???[/quote]

    Personally I liked:
    Asa’s death & aftermath
    Kyle & Fish
    Shane’s Bully story
    The romance of Viki & Charlie
    The romance of Cris & Layla
    The fallout of Nash’s death & the rapemance fallout
    I liked the kAD Murders until Rebecca became involved
    I liked Sky & Kim as characters
    Kim & Clint

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    Jamey Giddens

    One Life to Live is the only soap not to lose any ground last season and is currently the most watched ABC Daytime soap, despite being cancelled. Love him or hate him, Ron C. proved he’s the ABC soap head writer worth his paycheck. He and Frank managed to keep this show stable in 2010-11, sans promotion, marketing supporting, big movie star castings or Vanessa Marcils.

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    [quote=appleridge][quote=Saturday Night]I agree. Ron is a hack compared to Michael Malone or Claire Labine. Name one great, classic storyline that Ron has written. Anyone???[/quote]

    Personally I liked:
    Asa’s death & aftermath
    Kyle & Fish
    Shane’s Bully story
    The romance of Viki & Charlie
    The romance of Cris & Layla
    The fallout of Nash’s death & the rapemance fallout
    I liked the kAD Murders until Rebecca became involved
    I liked Sky & Kim as characters
    Kim & Clint[/quote]

    No, name CLASSIC STORYLINES written by Ron, not stories you liked. None of those qualify as “classics”.

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    [quote=lfad]Ron C. is overrated. He would be okay with his own soap that he created, but as HW of a show with a legacy, I don’t think so.

    I couldn’t care less about GH, so big deal if he’s headed there to help write the show to its conclusion.[/quote]

    This. I don’t watch GH but I do feel bad for its fans if this is true.

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    [quote=appleridge]I dont think he trashed Marty beyond repair. I just saw her lose everything that she loved and her mind included.[/quote]

    She killed. She stole babies. It sends the message that if you get raped, eventually years later you will lose your mind and turn into a psycho. There is no saving Marty now, no way she will EVER be the good character I fell in love with all those years ago.

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    Jamey Giddens

    Kish was definitely a classic soap story. What other writer actually managed to pen a fully-fledged love story between two men that was comsumated onscreen?

    Asa’s death and aftermath also was classically done. AlistairCrane, “classic”, much like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.

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    AlistairCrane

    [quote=appleridge]Those are the stories I liked that RC wrote and im not apologizing for liking regardless if u consider them classic or not, AC[/quote]

    The poster you responded to asked people to name classic stories. You didn’t.

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    appleridge

    See I dont see that as an affect of her rape

    I see that because Marty lost her baby, john and cole went to jail so she lost herself and lost her mind. When your not in the right mind you do things out of character.

    I didnt see it as such a huge leap as some others did but thats just me

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    [quote=Jamey Giddens]Kish was definitely a classic soap story. What other writer actually managed to pen a fully-fledged love story between two men that was comsumated onscreen?

    Asa’s death and aftermath also was classically done. AlistairCrane, “classic”, much like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.[/quote]

    I’m not the poster who brought “classic” into the argument.

    P.S. Passions was the first soap to have a gay sex scene between Chad and Vincent. You can’t say Vincent was a he/she because Chad didn’t know Vincent was a hermaphrodite as Vincent managed to hide his vagina when they had sex.

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    [quote=appleridge]See I dont see that as an affect of her rape

    I see that because Marty lost her baby, john and cole went to jail so she lost herself and lost her mind. When your not in the right mind you do things out of character.

    I didnt see it as such a huge leap as some others did but thats just me[/quote]

    She didn’t go crazy because of the rape, but it sends the message that raped women are pre-disposed to go crazy later in life.

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    appleridge

    [quote=AlistairCrane][quote=appleridge]Those are the stories I liked that RC wrote and im not apologizing for liking regardless if u consider them classic or not, AC[/quote]

    The poster you responded to asked people to name classic stories. You didn’t.[/quote]

    Like Jamey saidclassic is not the same to everyone

    i agree with Jamey that Kish was Classic as was The bully story and the romance of Viki/Charlie

    Clint going dark was classic

    Matt hovering between life and death is classic soap

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    soapbaby

    [quote=Jamey Giddens]One Life to Live is the only soap not to lose any ground last season and is currently the most watched ABC Daytime soap, despite being cancelled. Love him or hate him, Ron C. proved he’s the ABC soap head writer worth his paycheck. He and Frank managed to keep this show stable in 2010-11, sans promotion, marketing supporting, big movie star castings or Vanessa Marcils.[/quote]

    I have no choice but to agree with Jamey because this statement is a fact whether or not I am a fan of RC or not. For the record, I am not a fan of RC’s work and think he is overrated but, hey, he works hard and has kept many longtime viewers and added newer viewers as well. Big ups to him and if he can stop the hemorrhaging over at GH, more power to him. Personally, I think Garin Wolfe could improve the show with or without Carvialti.

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    appleridge

    Anyone & everyone has the possibilty to go crazy regardless of what may have or not happened

    As for Vincent/Chad. I thought he knew thats why he didnt consider himself gay

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    Marland Fan

    [quote=Jamey Giddens]One Life to Live is the only soap not to lose any ground last season and is currently the most watched ABC Daytime soap, despite being cancelled. Love him or hate him, Ron C. proved he’s the ABC soap head writer worth his paycheck. He and Frank managed to keep this show stable in 2010-11, sans promotion, marketing supporting, big movie star castings or Vanessa Marcils.[/quote]
    OLTL was cancelled on his watch, plain and simple.

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    [quote=appleridge]Anyone & everyone has the possibilty to go crazy regardless of what may have or not happened

    As for Vincent/Chad. I thought he knew thats why he didnt consider himself gay[/quote]

    He knew Vincent wasn’t like other guys, but he couldn’t figure out what.

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    appleridge

    kish was the first flown blown fans follow the entire journey of a love story that happens to be between two men. You everything warts and all. It was the first to do a full-fledged triangle. OLTL treated Kish just like their straight counterparts

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    Jamey Giddens

    Vincent and Chad had a sex scene on Passions, but they weren’t a groundbreaking gay love story, AlistairCrane and you know it. Vincent was a hermaphrodite, who could look like a woman one minute and a man the next. You can’t compare that madness to Kish. Sorry. Next.

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    soapbaby

    [quote=AlistairCrane]P.S. Passions was the first soap to have a gay sex scene between Chad and Vincent. You can’t say Vincent was a he/she because Chad didn’t know Vincent was a hermaphrodite as Vincent managed to hide his vagina when they had sex.[/quote]

    Aww, I am kinda missing Passions. Reading this made me feel like “What the hell was I watching and kind of liking just a few years back?” Lol.

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    Saturday Night

    Let’s not forget how he trashed the return of Tina, possibly one of the top five most beloved character’s in OLTL history, with his awful writing. And how Lindsay totally disappeared under his watch. Or how the Bo & Nora reunion has been a total snooze fest. And then there was the time-traveling crap. And Dorian’s gay wedding, which made no logical sense. Or the disappointing return of Kelly. Or the killing off of Nash and Jared. Or the god-awful return of Mitch Lawrence. Or the disappearance of Rachel. Or the slow demise of the Vega family. Or the failure of Evangeline to return. Or the disappearance of fan-favorite Marcie. Or the Stacy debacle. And the Fords. And the endless ‘Who’s Rex’s daddy’ mess. And the list of crappy stories written by Ron C. goes on and on…

    Face it, he sucks. The show has become a total cartoon under his watch. Personally, I don’t even think it was this bad when Megan Mctavish was writing.

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    appleridge

    [quote=Marland Fan][quote=Jamey Giddens]One Life to Live is the only soap not to lose any ground last season and is currently the most watched ABC Daytime soap, despite being cancelled. Love him or hate him, Ron C. proved he’s the ABC soap head writer worth his paycheck. He and Frank managed to keep this show stable in 2010-11, sans promotion, marketing supporting, big movie star castings or Vanessa Marcils.[/quote]
    OLTL was cancelled on his watch, plain and simple.[/quote]

    OLTL was canned because ABC/Disney want out of Daily Drama and thats the truth. Wouldnt have mattered who wrote it

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    appleridge

    [quote=AlistairCrane][quote=appleridge]Anyone & everyone has the possibilty to go crazy regardless of what may have or not happened

    As for Vincent/Chad. I thought he knew thats why he didnt consider himself gay[/quote]

    He knew Vincent wasn’t like other guys, but he couldn’t figure out what.[/quote]

    Well Chad was too stupid then. Cause as a gay man I can tell the diff between a penis and a vagina

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    Jamey Giddens

    OLTL was cancelled on his watch, plain and simple.
    ***
    Sorry, but no, not “plain and simple”. If it was “plain and simple” the I guess Claire Labine is a “hack”. Didn’t Ryan’s Hope get cancelled on her “watch”, “plain and simple”? Sometimes cancellations are not the fault of the writers. Unlike AW, GL and ATWT, OLTL was cancelled when it was near the top of the soaps on the air. It has remained there since the cancellation news was announced. EW.com just reported it was the only soap to hold steady among key demos and even rose in total viewers. ABC wants out of soaps. It has nothing to do with writing.

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    [quote=Saturday Night]Let’s not forget how he trashed the return of Tina, possibly one of the top five most beloved character’s in OLTL history, with his awful writing. And how Lindsay totally disappeared under his watch. Or how the Bo & Nora reunion has been a total snooze fest. And then there was the time-traveling crap. And Dorian’s gay wedding, which made no logical sense. Or the disappointing return of Kelly. Or the killing off of Nash and Jared. Or the god-awful return of Mitch Lawrence. Or the disappearance of Rachel. Or the slow demise of the Vega family. Or the failure of Evangeline to return. Or the disappearance of fan-favorite Marcie. Or the Stacy debacle. And the Fords. And the endless ‘Who’s Rex’s daddy’ mess. And the list of crappy stories written by Ron C. goes on and on…

    Face it, he sucks. The show has become a total cartoon under his watch. Personally, I don’t even think it was this bad when Megan Mctavish was writing.[/quote]

    Perfect post! Total garbage..ugh! Personally, OLTL is already dead to me. I shall watch the finale out of morbid curiosity as well as the fact that I have watched every soap finale since The City. I know GH will be cancelled next year regardless of the addition of RC, but at least the show would be better without him. I mean, I’d freak out if Days added Maria Arena Bell to the writing staff for its final season.

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    TV Gord

    What it comes down to for me is this: OLTL under Carlivati is the first time since Santa Barbara that I couldn’t wait for the next show! It has had a real ‘tune in tomorrow’ feel for a long, long time, and I’m loving every moment (even the not-so-great ones) of Carlivati’s OLTL!

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    [quote=appleridge][quote=AlistairCrane][quote=appleridge]Anyone & everyone has the possibilty to go crazy regardless of what may have or not happened

    As for Vincent/Chad. I thought he knew thats why he didnt consider himself gay[/quote]

    He knew Vincent wasn’t like other guys, but he couldn’t figure out what.[/quote]

    Well Chad was too stupid then. Cause as a gay man I can tell the diff between a penis and a vagina[/quote]

    Vincent hid his vagina when he was with Chad so Chad wouldn’t see it.

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    ConqueringBlue

    [quote=AlistairCrane]
    Theresa never raped anyone. Alistair paid for it with his life. Vincent was sent to prison. Only Spike disappeared without a trace.
    [/quote]

    Theresa raped Ethan. She drugged him and then put on a blond wig so he thoguht he was sleeping with Gwen. I didn’t buy his whole “I knew it was you the whole time”, it lets her off the hook. What she did was RAPE him, because he was not in his right mind. If a guy slipped a girl a date rape drug at a party and proceeded to have sex with her, it would be rape. That is exactly what Theresa did.

    So many women on Passions were raped, I got so sick watching Fancy being attacked over and over again that I quit watching. The show was campy fun in the beginning, but after four or five years, it got really sick, with the women being tortured and raped on endless loops.

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    lilyredd

    I am not a fan of his work but good luck to RC if this is true. Gotta pay the bills and OLTL is over soon.

    I love Robin, so I have a bias, and I have NO problem with anything she has tweeted. It is her account; it will be about her, her tastes, her likes/dislikes, her passions. If OLTL did not want this out, she would not have been told. Hell, she is one of the ONLY actors not throwing lobs.

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    [quote=ConqueringBlue][quote=AlistairCrane]
    Theresa never raped anyone. Alistair paid for it with his life. Vincent was sent to prison. Only Spike disappeared without a trace.
    [/quote]

    Theresa raped Ethan. She drugged him and then put on a blond wig so he thoguht he was sleeping with Gwen. I didn’t buy his whole “I knew it was you the whole time”, it lets her off the hook. What she did was RAPE him, because he was not in his right mind. If a guy slipped a girl a date rape drug at a party and proceeded to have sex with her, it would be rape. That is exactly what Theresa did.

    So many women on Passions were raped, I got so sick watching Fancy being attacked over and over again that I quit watching. The show was campy fun in the beginning, but after four or five years, it got really sick, with the women being tortured and raped on endless loops.[/quote]

    Wrong. Ethan’s testimonial that he knew it was her *and wanted it* PROVES that she didn’t rape him. You can continue to believe what you want, but you’re wrong. Ethan’s truth contradicts your belief. And that’s a fact.

    Also, Theresa is my favourite soap character of all time so you best watch yourself if you’re gonna trash her in my presence.

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    jlafferty23

    Jamey…
    LMAO!!!

    AlistairCrane…
    I sort of get what your trying to say but saying “Vincent was hiding his Vagina….” isn’t going to prove your point LOL, that just sounds ridiculous.

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    appleridge

    Its not trashing Teresa but sorry that was a re-write because Passions wanted to move T&E back together and realized the rape pissed off fans so they re-wrote it

    Just like when Gloria Monty claimed Luke raping Laura was really a seduction even though the audience heard her screams of No

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    It wasn’t a re-write. JER knew he was pushing people’s buttons with Theresa’s seduction of Ethan so he had to clarify that Ethan knew it was her all along. No hard core Therethan fan was turned off by that scene. Only Theresa haters/Gwench fans like to harp on and on about how she “raped” Ethan.

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    appleridge

    [quote=AlistairCrane]Two words, doubters: Double-sided tape.[/quote]

    Okay Vincent/Valerie was born with BOTH sex Organs so I think Chad knew the truth and thats they had sex cause Vincent also had a vagina so he didnt consider it gay.

    When Val had sex she most likely did use tape to hide her penis

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    Jamey Giddens

    Well, if he/she taped up his/her kitty kat, I sure hope Chad’s dumb ass laid that pipe good and it was worth it, ’cause that’s a LOT of trouble to go through when he/she could have found plenty of people who wouldn’t mind both. Many are U.S. Congressmen.

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    appleridge

    [quote=Jamey Giddens]Well, if he/she taped up his/her kitty kat, I sure hope Chad’s dumb ass laid that pipe good and it was worth it, ’cause that’s a LOT of trouble to go through when he/she could have found plenty of people who wouldn’t mind both. Many are U.S. Congressmen.[/quote]

    All I can Say: LOL

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    soapbabie

    One Life is so good and has been for some time. I loved Marty and always hoped she would get her happy ending, and I guess she did! I think the writers are trying to give us that as much as possible, OLTL has had humor and heart for a long time. I am just going to be little merry sunshine and enjoy the heck of of what time is left…..
    I am still hoping that before its over someone, ANYONE,slaps the snot out of natalie, but otherwise, what happens happens….its all good!!!!! :-)

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    Chad got off easy. Don’t forget, Valerie also seduced her father Julian and then, as Vincent, gave birth to her own brother-son.

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    ConqueringBlue

    [quote=AlistairCrane][quote=ConqueringBlue]
    Wrong. Ethan’s testimonial that he knew it was her *and wanted it* PROVES that she didn’t rape him. You can continue to believe what you want, but you’re wrong. Ethan’s truth contradicts your belief. And that’s a fact.

    Also, Theresa is my favourite soap character of all time so you best watch yourself if you’re gonna trash her in my presence.[/quote]

    Theresa SLIPPED ETHAN A DATE RAPE DRUG. How is that NOT raping him? I don’t care if he decided later on that he still wanted her and told her that he knew it was her all along, he was NOT IN HIS RIGHT MIND during the actual sex/rape. So if you were involved with someone, and your ex slipped you a drug and then dressed up like your current spouse, and proceeded to have sex with you, you’d be just fine with it? You wouldn’t feel violated at all?

    As for Theresa, I’ll flat out say it, I hated her. She was a psychotic, obsessed STALKER. What I found interesting was when that one actress took over while LH was on maternity leave, she played Theresa like the villainess that she actually was, while LH always played her as a victim. It was an acting choice, but the CHARACTER was disgusting. JER tried to make Theresa the character to root for, and Gwen the evil bitch, but it didn’t change the fact that Theresa hero worshipped Ethan from her time as a child, plotted to steal him from his fiance, and then did countless dispicable acts during the course of the show. I missed the last year when Passions went to Direct TV and only watched here and there after the Fancy being attacked fiasco. But to my knowledge Theresa got her fairy tale ending at the end. She was a crazy idiot, she didn’t deserve any happy ending.

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    THEBEST

    Why are ya’ll arguing with that fool, AlistairCrane? It’s clear they’re nuts if they think PASSIONS was classic soap. The show had a decent foundation (Popular couples, good backstories, 4 core families), but JER turned it into a joke. How could the show’s second most popular couple (Sheridan & Luis) go through 9 YEARS of torture, not to end up together in the end? Ethan & Theresa had been through so much crap that it was meaningless to even put them back together. The show let camp destroy it’s credibility.

    If this rumor is True, GH may just have a fighting chance. Ron has made the last 4.5 years of OLTL some of the best in my opinion. Even his bad stories have a great payoff, so it makes you wanna take the ride with him no matter what. It’s better than Dena Higley getting hired for the job, so there…

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    Bourgeois Nerd

    I love Robin Strasser, but I don’t think Twitter is a good medium for her. She is NOT one to confine herself to 140 characters, and when she does most of the time it’s hard to understand. The way that that tweet is worded, I’m not sure if the two thoughts (RC going to GH and her getting flack for leaving early) are actually connected. I have a very, very hard time believing that RC would leave before everything is written; MAYBE he’d leave before filming ended, but no way would he give up the chance to end a soap he loves just to go be a script writer on GH. Also, Strasser has had nothing but nice things to say about RC and FV that I’ve ever heard, though she did complain about certain things like screentime and some aspects of her stories (she was against the lesbian wedding, for instance). SHE is the one who chose to leave, due to her health; she wasn’t pushed out by the eeeeeeeeevil Ron Carlivati who wants to end the show on a shot of Ford’s abs or something.

    Ron Carlivati has faults as a writer. He’s written some real duds. Tina’s return, the Rapemance (though I thought even that was actually interesting until they actually “went there”), the neverending Tess crap. Tell me one writer, even among the greats, who hasn’t spun some shit, though. The Labine years on GH was one of the high points of that soap, but I still remember plenty of crap I didn’t give a hoot about. Malone did the Santis second time around. Gloria Monty did Luke and Laura (talk about whitewashed rape stories!), but wasn’t there also something about some woman walking around Port Charles’s thriving “Asian Quarter” buck-ass naked in the same era, too? Point is, even the greats, and I’m not even necessarily saying that RC is among them, aren’t geniuses all the time. We just forget the dross over the years.

    Yet, I look around, and I see RC as one of the only writers out there still even ATTEMPTING old school, basic soap, with intergenerational, interweaving stories about a community instead of a series of disconnected bubbles that might as well be on different planets. He writes a variety of different tones, from campy to socially conscious, with a wide range of characters and a noticeable effort to balance screen time. Despite Robin Strasser’s complaints, he actually writes for veterans, especially women, who get to have romances and *gasp* sex, even though they’re not 25. Asa funeral, Kish, Charlie and Viki’s initial romance, the bullying storyline right now, all are stories I, at least, consider classic.

    I also think it’s totally obvious that RC loves this genre. He’s not embarrassed by it like so many who work in it seem to be *coughGuzaFronscough*. He’s never tried to make soaps what they’re not (Sopranos-Lite or TMC Marathon). And I think, in particular, he loves this show, this history. That doesn’t mean we all LIKE what he’s done with it’s history, but we’re never all going to do that anyway. Shock of shocks, some of us don’t give a shit about Marty, and thought the Crazy Train Express was the most interesting she’s been in years. I’d rather her go out with a bang rather than just fade away. But if you disagree, that’s cool.

    Let’s also address the lurking troll in the wings: Frons. Now, it’d be far too easy to just blame any misstep on him, and wrong, because I think several storylines are squarely on RC’s head, but we also can’t deny that he HAS been the cause of much of what we didn’t like. HE was the one who foisted Stacy Morasco on us. HE was the one who Purged the show of all ethnic and sexual diversity. HE is the one who has a hard-on for McBain. HE is the one who has a horror of veterans and an aversion to business stories. As it is, it’s amazing RC has gotten away with a lot of the stuff he’s gotten away with. I think the fact that Dorian and Viki have survived on this show, period, is due to his championing and Frons’s general neglect.

    So, to make a long comment short, you don’t have to like Ron Carlivati, but he’s NOT a hack, and he’s done very well by OLTL.

    ETA:

    What it comes down to for me is this: OLTL under Carlivati is the first time since Santa Barbara that I couldn’t wait for the next show! It has had a real ‘tune in tomorrow’ feel for a long, long time, and I’m loving every moment (even the not-so-great ones) of Carlivati’s OLTL!

    Here, here! I can’t wait to get home and watch the show every day, and that’s all I ever ask of a show!

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    Danielle

    If this is true, this bitch (ME) will be bringing her happy ass back to daytime!!! Although I am already going to watch AMC for the return of my Leo.

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    lilyredd

    Bourgeois nerd, I do not disagree reading RS’s twitter feed will be difficult even for those initiated into her style from the hotline days–she is very stream of consciousness –she can switch gears very quickly, but I love reading her tweets. And I must somewhat disagree about “going out with a bang.” it is one thing to go out in a dramatic style, but if I were a fan of Marty–there was nothing stylish or logical about her descent into madness over John or her killing and attempted murder spree. One can write drama without the ridiculous, but no matter. I just hope Dorian gets a wonderful final.

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    Danielle

    All I know is I don’t want to be seeing any vagina’s shut or any at all, thank you!!! I don’t talk about mine no need to talk about anybody elses!!! :)

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    naughtytomato

    :) This thread is wild! penis…vagina…double sided tape…rape…giving birth to own brother…Robin Stausser..What was this about? Oh yea, Carlivati to GH!

    DC peeps keep saying OLTL is the best written soap & Carlivati is the bomb….then this switch and other peeps are trashing him.

    Soaps are in chaos! It’s crazytown! Guilty pleasure GH & OLTL fans have fits.
    The Passions debate – :O

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    P.S. There is supposed to be dialogue in that scene. Not sure why the background music was cranked and the dialogue removed.
    P.P.S. I can hardly find any Passions stuff on youtube anymore, whereas a couple of years ago there was TONS. Were they removed due to copyright issues?

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