The View Tackles Tracy Morgan Homophobia Drama






The women of The View discussed comedian Tracy Morgan's vile, homophobic rant at a comedy club in Nashville recently, as part of their Hot Topics segment on Monday. Per usual, Whoopi Goldberg was the Defender in Chief, saying "but for the grace of God there go all of us." Okay, so Whoopi is saying everyone is just five seconds away from choosing to say the most heinous things imaginable about a group of people, all for the sakes of shiz and giggles?

Sherri Shepherd, who plays Morgan's wife on Tina Fey's sitcom 30 Rock, made the point that because of Morgan's antics his costars and bosses were negatively impacted. Fellow comedian Joy Behar called his statements on homosexuality being a.) a choice and b.) taught by the media, "ignorant". Barbara Walters was visibly disgusted by Morgan's remarks and said cloaking bigotry under the guise of "comedy" wasn't always acceptable. Haven't wanted to say this in a long time but, go Babs! Watch the clip below.




There is absolutely nothing funny about a public figure (or anyone else for that matter) saying he'd stab his son to death if he found out he was gay. I totally believe in a comic's right to be politely incorrect and am fans of many such comedians, the late Richard Pryor, Joan Rivers, etc. but to spout off such vitriol when gay teen suicides are at an all-time high is disgusting and irresponsible.

What if a "comedian" who stars on a hit sitcom watched by millions, said black people should still be lynched, while working out his routine at a comedy club? Would Goldberg be as okay with remarks like that, all in the sake of "comedy"? How about if one of Goldberg's fellow, highly-paid court jesters made off-color remarks about the Holocaust, or the victims of 9/11 as part of his or her routine? Sometimes, "he made a mistake" just doesn't cut it.

 For his part, Morgan has issued the all-too-familiar apologies, plans to go meet with gay teens and blah, blah, blah, but from where I'm blogging, Tracy Morgan is now in the same category with Mel Gibson and Michael Richards.

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Tina Fey should just fire him now.

I am waiting for the inevitable stint in rehab.

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I disagree with you Jamey. I think that Mel Gibson and Michael Richards were never apologetic that I can recall. They blamed it on other circumstances or disappeared from sight. I think its more like Isaiah Washington. He did/said something that hurt someone/group of people, and felt bad for it later. If you can tell me you have never done that, than you are a better man than I have ever met. If he does it again, or something similar, than we have something to talk about. But where was the outrage last week when Christopher Titus, a well known comic, said that he wanted to kill Sarah Palin? Is it not as bad because she is straight or people think she is stupid?

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Tina Fey should just fire him now.

I am waiting for the inevitable stint in rehab.

I totally agree here. I'm amazed that only one person who attended the show, which was 2 weeks ago, just posted about it now (this weekend). I have always been a fan of Tracy's, however, when a celebrity goes to these extremes, they need to face the consequences.

As for the ladies of "The View", it took me a while to realize this, but they only rehash what others have already said. No, "Go, Barbara!!" She's gone down so many notches in my mind, due to the many things she's said recently and who she supports. Honestly, I believe only Joy has a handle on things. Everyone always flip-flops on everything they say on that show. Plus, it airs on ABC, which I am boycotting save for "All My Children". I have completely stopped watching the network altogether. I refuse to give them any ratings for shows other than my soap.

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Yes, I do feel that if a comedian said that 'black people should be lynched', Whoopi Goldberg, like the 'Aunt Thomasina' I have always perceived her to be, would be the first to defend whichever racist comedian said it. People forget, or don't know, that this is the same woman that defended that racist crap that Ted Danson pulled(back when she was sleeping with the very married actor) at a Friar's Roast, back in the day.

So Goldberg's reaction to Morgan was no surprise to me.

Secondly, I never understood how Morgan became any kind of success whatsoever. I never found him funny on SNL and I am not a fan of '30 Rock'. The point is this: yes he was wrong and he will be more than duly punished for it, much in the same way as Isaiah Washington will forever pay for his blast at the Emmys, Golden Globes...wherever the hell it was. But I never think it's a bad thing when a hater exposes his true feelings. Now everyone knows how Morgan feels and can deal accordingly.

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I agree to with Chocolate-Mama!! At least we know where Tracy Morgan stands. I will never watch anything of his again and know he is a homophobic hateful person. Period. In my opinion, the words he said can never be forgiven and he's now just doing what he has to his save what's left of his career. This wasn't a joke that went bad!! Come on!!
This was Tracy saying what he really feels about gay people. This is why kids that are gay take their lives and feel they like they have no one to turn to. Why you hear about people who get murdered because of their sexuality. That is a joke to you?? No, that is plain downright hate and discrimation!! The only thing that I think Tracy can do is work with gay organizations and groups to be a positive light for them and learn something from it (not to just do it to save his career). People need to realize saying hateful speech like that in public has a price! Many of us, were hurt and so upset by these comments. The damage is done and now he needs to pay!! As for the View ladies, Whoopi tried to make it seem like he had just said a bad joke. Really??? Then Sherri tries to compare a joke that she had once said that went bad with Barbara Walters, to the comments that Tracy Morgan said. Shame on you, Sherri!! You can't even compare the two!! Their (Whoopi and Sherri's) underline message was they didn't think what he did was that big of deal and move on. Barbara W. was the only one to call him what he really is!! All I can say is I'll pray for him.

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What if a "comedian" who stars on a hit sitcom watched by millions, said black people should still be lynched, while working out his routine at a comedy club? Would Goldberg be as okay with remarks like that, all in the sake of "comedy"?

If a fellow celebrity or comedian said it, I think she would defend them. If she could go on the View and defend Mel Gibson after saying abusive hatred to his baby mama, including hoping she would get raped by a pack of n-words, and say Roman Polanski didn't commit "rape rape," Whoopi will defend any famous person of almost anything.

As for Tracy Morgan, that crap he said wasn't funny or edgy. I don't feel sorry that he's going around trying to save his career. I'm also disturbed that reports said most of the audience were yukking it up and cheering Tracy Morgan until he said he would knife his son if the son came home and acted gay. Saying homosexuality is a choice and lesbians want to be men is funny, but don't go too far. All righty.

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it really annoys me when someone does the sort of thing you are all doing. Just because he said something, whether he believes it, or he was just trying to be funny, you have decided to black ball him. Its ridiculous. Now, if he stabbed his gay son in real life, or beat Cheyenne Jackson up after a taping of thirty rock, I would agree with it. But, this is one instance that he has APOLOGIZED for!! Grow the fuck up people. Have you NEVER said or done something that you soon realized was a major mistake and wanted to apologize for and take it back? People talk about how Christians are so "intolerant" of people like homosexuals. I would guess based on the repeated articles and commenters on here, that more homosexuals are intolerant of anything said that is not complimentary, than you will find of those Christian extremists that want gays to die.

I am a God fearing christian, and I have a number of friends who are gay, I love a lot of gay actors and actresses and their work. I hate that if I say I am a Christian, half the gays on this board will AUTOMATICALLY think I am a bigot, because of that one word. Judge the person not the group. Okay, sorry, I got carried away. I am off my soapbox now.

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Scooter I have said things I have wanted to take back but it has never happened when I had the floor and a mike in my hand.

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I’ve come to Whoopi’s defense before on some things before regarding her sometimes, in my opinion, admirable sense of looking at both sides but sorry Whoopi. Not this time and for the reasons that Mr. Giddens expressed so well. I say boot him off 30 ROCK. His absence won’t be felt that much. I’ve always thought his character was the foolish weak link and made me laugh the least. Hell, Sherri Shepherd playing his wife makes me laugh more. Boot his unfunny character to the curb, keep his funnier guards/sidekicks and make Cheyenne Jackson a regular. He’s sure as hell a lot easier on the eyes.

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I wasn't aware of the Titus/Palin comment but like Tracy shame on him too. I am surprised her supporters or Palin herself haven't gone on the offensive. That truly shocks me.

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They have, but it has only been on talk radio and Fox news. Unfortunately, the "mainstream" media has decided that this joke wasn't as bad as Tracy Morgan's joke or Anthony's Weiner.

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Tracy Morgan deserves to have his butt handed to him, and I hope that mainstream society doesn't let him off the hook for his disgusting comments. He needs to spend the next few months----or years---paying for his distasteful words, just as Michael Richards and Mel Gibson deserve to pay. As a gay man, I have no problem with comedians making jokes about gays, but to presume that it's a CHOICE that we are making and that we need to get over the fact that we are being bullied and "man up" really makes me want to put my fist through a wall.

I won't get into a debate about homosexuality on this board, other than to say that homophobia is the ONLY form of discrimination in this country that we not only accept and condone but PROMOTE. It's sickening.

I will never see Tracy Morgan the same again, nor will I be a fan of his any longer. Truth be told, I haven't found him to be particularly funny since he played "Hustle Man" on "Martin" back in the 90s. I hope that he is truly sorry and that he realizes the error of this ways!!!

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I am hesitant to judge what was truly in the heart and mind of Tracy when he chose to let this rant rip. At the worst it displays how he really feels, at the best it displays extremely poor judgement. I am all for edgy, dark and occassionally offensive humor (love it really - I am a huge defender of South Park) but Joy Behar made the best point about where the line should be drawn. When you go after segments of the population that still are fighting for their right to even exist within certain deeply entrenched parts of our populace, it comes off as nothing more than ugly bullying. Nothing enrages me more than hearing a vile bully accuse his victims of not having a sense of humor - excusing Tracy's rant fuels that excuse for veiled bullying that I see taking place out in the everyday world, causing life-long damage to its victims. I am glad he apologized, cannot judge the sincerity of it at all, but perhaps some real lesson could be taught from this. A bully attempting to justify his or her cruetly behind comedy is UNACCEPTABLE.

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I have to ask, alston, how is homophobia condoned? That statement seemed ridiculous to me.

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Well-said Ryan-Scott, well-said.

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Scooter Smith,

Gay people in this country are ostracized. When people make fun of gay people, it's applauded, not looked down upon as should be. Words like "fag," "queer," "homo" and other gay slurs are used freely in all parts of society, and its simply looked at as a joke. Mainstream society seems to accept the degradation of gay people. That's what I was trying to say.

If you disagree, I guess I respect that, but I don't see how anyone living in 2011 COULD disagree with that statement. Gay bashing is everywhere. As I said, I am not going to get into a heated debate on this topic. You are entitled to your opinions.

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I do disagree, simply because everywhere I look, when people use those terms they are ostracized. In the last 10 years, I have not seen anywhere people calling other people "fags" or "homos" without being admonished by most decent people. Celebrities that even mention those terms, they are immediately blackballed all over the web and the morning shows. I would never allow my kids to say that, and neither would any of my friends. I just think that America is a lot more understanding than you give them credit for, because there are no headlines saying "Michigan town is proven to be friendly to the gays". It is only when bad shit happens, and it gives a skewed view.

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Cri-Cri= summed up perfectly.

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As a heterosexual male and soap fan (gasp!) I’m going to attempt to delve into this. So strap up because it’s going to a bumpy ride. In the African American community homophobia is condoned, specifically more often then not amongst the males. Now this doesn’t mean that every black male agrees with the anti-gay ideology that litters parts of the community (I’m a testament to that) but it is not uncommon for this type of behavior to exist.

Ideas about homosexuality range from something inherited from the white man during slavery because African American men were emasculated and demoralized to the ideas of a religious sin which doesn’t have a specific racial aspect to it.

It has even extended to the soap world where the idea once brought up by some fans about the possibility of Y&R’s Devon being gay brought a firestorm of “hell no!” from mostly black female viewers.

It is obvious that anti-gay sentiment has been widely accepted on the black comedy circuit and some forms of Hip Hop (mainly Gangasta Rap) since the early days.

For some parents “coming out” is worse than being a murder, rapist or a child molester. They make general soap opera “coming out” stories look mild in comparison. Kids exhibiting any behaviors that could be interpreted as gay can be beaten within an inch of their life to show that the behavior is wrong. And all too often other parents and people with the same view points support this view. Especially when it comes to the idea of “being a man.”

Not too many fathers want their sons to grow up being the preverbal “punk.” At least that is what is often said. And the ass whoopins’ many African American gays in urban neighborhoods receive if their sexuality is say more noticeable would drive non-black gays to suicide. So it amazes me how they avoid it!

In church everyone knew that one guy with the premed hair in the choir or the choir director or just plain church member who YOU KNEW was not going to be marrying a woman and more or less engaged in any female sexual activity. But everyone pretended not to know what was up or just ignored it.

In my own family I had a older cousin whom when I was kid was going through the transformation from Male to Female. My mother a staunch catholic traditionalist with a penchant for a more Dominique Deveraux type of personality and dress and my father you’re old liberal conservative Brian from the film Mahogany type were dead set against exposing me to "her." So when we would make rare visits to my mother’s uncle’s house where my cousin still resided as an adult I was made to stay in the car and hide on the floor when my cousin would come out of the house.

This often got my parents considered to be too “highsadity” among other reasons and was the one thing I disagreed with them on later in life.

They have later since evolved in their thinking as far as their approach after my nana passed away and my mother made a pledge get over her issues for the sake of the family. Yet whatever feelings they have is reserved for the comforts of their own minds.

But it is an issue within the black community and is still an issue in America in general. We’ve even seem the president have an evolution in his own view on the issue. So we as a community have a ways to go on this issue and may be the last taboo in the African American community.

On a side note TC’s reaction to Simone coming out on Passions (one of the few real moments) as gay when he slapped her and disavowed it was as real as it gets with this issue with many African Americans.

Those are just my unvarnished thoughts.

Okay I just got an idea... How about aging Theo to a teen and having him come-out and having Abe having a bad reaction. Now that would be interesting.

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Hate speech should never be excused or not taken lightly no matter who is the target! To try to make light of it only makes you like a biggot. People are being discriminated, bullied, beaten, and murdered all in the name of hate. How is that a joke??!!

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Last week, I made a joke about wanting to punch a co worker because they were getting on my nerves. Now, I would never have actually hit her, but I almost lost my job over this type of stupid shit. I am sorry if people are touchy because they feel like a victim. But, if you are proud to be gay, then fucking act that way. Walk away and ignore them or fight back. Just because some people don't like it, doesn't make them evil.

Bullies target whatever you are insecure about. I got bullied for being a christian, because I was a "goody two shoes". But I laughed it off, made a couple of jokes and they went away. Then they started teasing me, calling me a "fag", because I watched soaps, was in the choir, and was dating a girl who, looked kinda mannish. I laughed it off, made a couple jokes about it, and they left me alone. You have to not let them know they rattled you. I know that I am going to get flamed for this because I am a straight white guy, and "don't know what it's like to be gay", but I have been bullied my whole life. It taught me how to be stronger, and how to get over things.

This whole storyline with Jack and Shane has been difficult for me, because no one has ever taught Shane how to handle an asshole before? That is something every parent should teach their kid, because it will happen to 90% of them. If they aren't being bullied, they probably ARE the bully. I don't mean to sound insensitive, but if you teach your kids how to handle that when they are young, and they won't want to kill themselves when someone teases them.

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David, there are many who brought up in hate, ignorance, and misinformation but that doesn't justify or excuse it. Most is taught in the home and learn by the child. That doesn't mean you have to grow up with it and continue it. Ignorance is the easy road, but learning what is the real truth about other diverse groups is enlightening and life changing! To make excuses or staying silent only means you accept it. To take a stand is never easy but it is right and worth it!

Scooter, you haven't walked in a gay person's shoes so you don't know how it feels. Being bullied is terrible no matter what the reason and should not be tolerated by society. GLBT kids are bullied at very high rates and many don't have no one to talk to about or anyone to turn to. So they have to endure the abuse because they can't tell the people they love about their sexuality. Many take their lives as a result, seeing it as a better option than dealing with the daily torture. So to say just deal or stay strong is easy to say when you aren't with all they are dealing with.

Now,saying you want to hurt or worse to someone should never be taken lightly. That is just disturbing. How did they know when someone is joking or serious? Again, saying things like that aren't a joke or funny at all. You can say words but you will also pay the price too. Words have consequences! People need to realize that and be more sensitive of others. That is what is wrong with this country today - No respect for others. The old saying is best: Treat people the way you would want to be treated. Sounds simple but yet so many don't live by that these days.

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Gi, I guess I will just do on these boards, what I have decided to do in my office. Just stop talking, because inevitably SOMETHING I say will upset someone, and I don't want to take that chance. So I will just become a zombie, and have no contact with anyone except my wife, kids, and the few friends I have. To hell with the outside world. Who wants to grow and expand and meet new people when you can't say anything to them about anything without fear of being sued, blackballed, fired, prosecuted, or just plain screwed.

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Tracy Morgan is a moron. I bet his son does "play"...

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Scooter Smith, you are acting like the issue is people saying they don't condone gay marriage or don't believe being gay is a choice. That isn't it at all. This man said, in a very anti-gay part of the country, that he would STAB his son if he told him he was gay. That is most assuredly not the same as saying you are a Christian and don't believe something is right.

You say you are sick of this, well guess what I am sick of. I am sick to death of people using the bible to justify hatred. I too grew up Christian and there is no part in the bible that says if you disagree with what you consider a "sin" you should make jokes about the "sinner" and bully them, and/or say you would stab one. Maybe in the old testament, but certainly not in the new.

I can calmly debate someone who says they don't accept gays because of their religious beliefs, but that is not the same as making violent statements about a group of people who are having violence inflicted on them daily. ESPECIALLY GAY CHILDREN!

You bring up Sarah Palin. First of all, had no idea this Christopher person said that, but then again, in my post I mentioned a public figure starring on a show with millions of people. That title hasn't applied to Christopher Titus in years. That's probably why it isn't making as many headlines as what the star of NBC's hit series 30 Rock just said about his hypothetical gay son.

What Titus said about Palin is appalling, but Palin is an adult, politician/reality star who CHOSE to put herself in the limelight. That comes with the possibility of people saying heinous things about you. The gay teens who are being bullied in this country don't choose to be gay, nor do they choose to be bullied, or to fall into the depths of depression. They also don't choose to have an asshat, recovering drug addict comedian, whose been forgiven many of the sins the bible speaks out against, go down to Nashville and basically say it's okay to hate, bully, belittle and even stab gay children. It's irresponsible and your being uncomfortable about the dialogue doesn't change that fact.

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Scooter, you have an opinion on somethings and a voice too. I just don't get defending or downplaying hateful speech and talking about hurting people (joking or serious) as being justified. Like I said no matter who it is (gay, straight, black, latino, asian,white, man, woman, christian, muslim, or atheist, etc.) being targeted by hate shouldn't be tolerated!! It may be a joke or not offensive to some, but to the group the speech to targeted towards it hurts very much!! How is someone who is gay to it take as a joke?? Talking about hurting someone is acceptable and OK? A threat is a threat, just as hate is hate!! This wasn't just being called a nasty name. This rant was about harming his kid if he was gay. My religion is about love for others (even ones different from me) and treating people the way Jesus would want me to treat others. Religion to me is not about violence and hate, and for people who think otherwise... I pray for them!

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WOW!! I just went on The View Message boards. 95% or more are negative about how Whoopi and Sherri tried to give Tracy a pass. It is worth checking out all the posts saying they are really upset with them!!

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Maybe its because I am white and straight and live in the midwest. But in any instance that gay teens are hurt in anyway, the perpatrators get punished for it, and the teens get protected. So, I don't see this extreme statement, meant to get laughs, as a serious threat. So I don't understand the blackballing of this man, especially since he has apologized for making the statement and admitted it was inappropriate. I know you can't unring a bell, but you CAN try to be contrite about it.

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How could such a talented man (he was soooooo good on "Saturday Night Live"!) say such a horrific thing???

I am completely at a loss for words and agree that he should be lumped into that category as Mel Gibson and Michael Richard.

Oh and that homophobic beauty queen contestant from a couple years back.

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My parents used to always say, never mind the people who call you names to your face, just be extra careful of the ones who call you names behind your back. What Tracey Morgan said was inexcusable, but now every gay man and woman knows exactly where he or she stands with Tracey Morgan and should act accordingly. He has shown himself. All of this teeth gnashing and hand wringing , solves nothing and does nothing but create noise for the sake of noise. Focus on the people, especially those in power,who are saying and feeling the same things that Tracey did. Tracey Morgan has no real power.