Kim Zimmer on Ellen Wheeler: “Somebody Told Me She Was Working on a Farm Somewhere in Utah”





I really think Luke and I and the rest of the bloosphere should cut Kim Zimmer a check. From "sweating my balls off in Peapack" to her latest round of zingers in this week's Soap Opera Weekly (on newstands now), the daytime drama queen keeps giving good pull quote!

La Zimmer talked with the magazine about her new tome I'm Just Saying: Three Deaths, Seven Husbands and a Clone, My Life as a Daytime Diva, which among other things, delves into a DUI arrest and the anger issues she had to deal with because of her last few years on Guiding Light. We feel you girl; we were angry too! When asked if GL's final showrunner Ellen Wheeler had read the book, here's what One Life to Live's Echo di Savoy responded:

I don't know. I don't totally destroy her in the book. I do come around to say that she had a job to do and she did it very well, though I didn't agree with the way she did it. She did what she was told to do. She knows how I felt about her, that was no secret to her, so if she reads it, I don't think she'll be surprised or shocked. I don't even know where she is. Somebody told me she was working on a farm somewhere in Utah. I think she was ready to get out of the business after that whole debacle there [Laughs].


Jesus take the Wheel. The outrageous Zimmer's book drops August 2! For more deets visit kimzimmmer.net.

46 Responses

  1. Avatar of alstonboy4315
    alstonboy4315

    Ellen Wheeler doesn’t deserve to EVER work in daytime again, unless its as an ACTRESSS. She was always a fabulous actress. Executive producer? Not so much. Tragic. Absolutely tragic.

  2. Avatar of
    An_Emmy_For_Julia_Pace_Mitchell

    Why can’t that overweight, greedy, homophobic woman keep her mouth shut? Can’t stand Kim (“It’s all gotta be about me”) Zimmer!!!

  3. Avatar of aveRex
    aveRex

    Ellen’s off writing her memoir entitled: “Bite Me Bitches! From Actor to Directing and Producing Daytime’s Biggest Egos: I Made Millions while They Took Paycuts”

    LOL!

  4. Avatar of Marland Fan
    Marland Fan

    [quote]Is she homophobic Julia????[/quote]
    I think she’s referring to when Kim’s son was set to play Luke on ATWT, then she pulled him out of the role when it was decided to make the character gay.

  5. Avatar of alstonboy4315
    alstonboy4315

    Kim reported that her son decided to pull out of the show to focus on other acting projects and sports. If she is homophobic, we’ll probably never know for sure.

  6. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    Im sorry but i saw the TV guide article which had excerpts a few months back and she says she showed up Drunk too GL and wished it died two years earlier

    Then on TVLegends interview she claimed she had an equality agreement with GL that she could leave at the end of every year as long as she game them the notice P&G wanted. So if she hated GL so bad she shoulda quit instead

    That coupled with Jamey on the podcasts saying Zimmer along with Strasser were showing out on the oLTL set cause they didnt wanna do comedy

    Im sorry she may be a great actress but if i were EP i wouldnt put up with this CRAP

  7. Avatar of soapbaby
    soapbaby

    Oh, Ellen Wheeler is an easy target but she helmed a resurgence in GL when she joined as EP. There was Dinah’s return, story for Crystal Chappell’s Olivia and Jordan Clarke’s Billy story and Tom Pelphrey was daytime tv’s last great acting find. All of those actors won Emmy’s during EW’s reign. I am not an apologist for EW because she made huge blunders but P&G clearly wanted out of the soap opera business and there was little anyone involved could do to save GL or ATWT.

    Nevertheless, Kim Zimmer is HILARIOUS and that’s a great quote! I will have to pick up her book!

  8. Avatar of harlee490
    harlee490

    [quote=gato1]Is she homophobic Julia????[/quote]
    At the time he was playing “Luke” ATWT’s just aged Luke into a teenager her son was 15 yrs at the time. When ATWT decided to bring the character out as being gay they had to go with legal age actor ..enter Van. She is not homophobic she was concern for son and just getting into acting…the name calling amazes me when the rudest, loudest people are the insecure ones spouting the rant.

  9. Avatar of Soap_Stud
    Soap_Stud

    Oh, Zimmer is Zimmer. I love her for her work as an actress..not because I agree how she lives her personal life. I look at the soaps on the Web and then go back and look at GL in its last year and wonder why the soaps on the web look better..lol..Wheeler just wasn’t ballsy enough to run a soap opera, but I will forever love her for her years as CIndy on AMC and Vicki/Marley on AW.

  10. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    [quote=harlee490][quote=gato1]Is she homophobic Julia????[/quote]
    At the time he was playing “Luke” ATWT’s just aged Luke into a teenager her son was 15 yrs at the time. When ATWT decided to bring the character out as being gay they had to go with legal age actor ..enter Van. She is not homophobic she was concern for son and just getting into acting…the name calling amazes me when the rudest, loudest people are the insecure ones spouting the rant.[/quote]

    Actually an actor does not need to be 18+ to play gay

  11. Avatar of marknsprmo
    marknsprmo

    Kim Zimmer is an out there woman who is passionate about everything that is going on around her. There are not enough in your face, exhippie, heart on their sleeve women in show business. Too much of the time actors are very surface and above it all. Not Kim. She will gladly roll in the mud. She is strong, she is loud, she is woman! I will take her over the passive agressive bimbos that twitt about “oh my, please help me! I am so helpless!”

  12. Avatar of
    matealestlmo

    [quote=An_Emmy_For_Julia_Pace_Mitchell]Why can’t that overweight, greedy, homophobic woman keep her mouth shut? Can’t stand Kim (“It’s all gotta be about me”) Zimmer!!![/quote]

    An Emmy,

    Do you have concrete proof that Kim is homophobic? Cuz let me tell you honey, I just sent her a private message on FB with your disgusting and despicable comments about her. I felt as though she deserves to defend her name. Unless you have ABSOLUTE, IRREFUTABLE, IRON CLAD evidence proving that she’s homophobic, I suggest you keep your damn mouth shut!

  13. Avatar of david46208
    david46208

    @Emmy: I just want to know why Julia deserves an Emmy for what she has done? Did I miss a scene? ;) Because you know the best she could get was a courtesy NAACP Award. I just wanted to know….

    But anyways I’m sure Ellen Wheeler is down on the farm as the 5th wife of many.

  14. Avatar of
    matealestlmo

    [quote=david46208]@Emmy:But anyways I’m sure Ellen Wheeler is down on the farm as the 5th wife of many.[/quote]

    ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!! Good one David!

  15. Avatar of Jorpa
    Jorpa

    [quote=An_Emmy_For_Julia_Pace_Mitchell]Why can’t that overweight, greedy, homophobic woman keep her mouth shut? Can’t stand Kim (“It’s all gotta be about me”) Zimmer!!![/quote]

    Wow! Jealous much? It’s her book, and she can be “all about me” all she wants to. You don’t have to read it.

    I can’t wait for the book to arrive in my mailbox!

  16. Avatar of Ryan-Scott
    Ryan-Scott

    Also, loved how Ellen released Ellen Weston as HW in her first few months as EP.

    What has been said about GL under her has been covered good and bad so I don’t need to repeat it.
    That’s my story and I am sticking to it kids.

  17. Avatar of Chilly Fan 25
    Chilly Fan 25

    I have always loved Kim Zimmer…and probably always will. Everyone always says Susan Lucci is the Queen of Daytime but for me it was Kim Zimmer, LONG LIVE REVA SHAYNE!!

    As for Ellen Wheeler…well when she took up the reigns Guiding Light went downhill HFAST.

  18. Avatar of bishbay
    bishbay

    Honestly was never a big GL fan but if Ellen Wheeler was in any way responsible for those musical interludes when characters would just walk across a parking lot or through a backyard for five minutes while a terrible song played…then I can’t say I enjoyed her work.

  19. Avatar of harlee490
    harlee490

    Kim is my Reva Shayne Lewis forever. I miss GL, EW’s high peaks were in the beginning and then toward the end it just favorites and some big actors laid dormant…JVD! GL lost a few big name actors on her watch. She also had a few big name actors come on canvas. Regardless, she was the last EP of my favorite soap and in the end she wouldn’t listen to fans and it was cancelled….The End :((

  20. Avatar of RoseVioletDaisy
    RoseVioletDaisy

    KZ and her husband’s decision about ending their son’s tenure on ATWT wasn’t about legality or homophobia. Their son was 15 and still in high school when he was doing ATWT and she knew that once the show made his character gay, he’d have a much more front-burner role and would have to reschedule practically his whole life around work and she didn’t think he should have to do that at such a young age. He and his parents agreed that he should leave and concentrate on finishing school.

  21. Avatar of whereintheworld
    whereintheworld

    Besides loving KZ as an actress, I was very thankful during the worst of EW’s last two years that Kim was open with her feelings about the changes EW made. EW was telling us that viewers were clamoring to see the vibrant brown of the dirt roads that she had the characters randomly strolling down. Other actors were calling her brilliant or extolling the virtues of the new production method in EW’s staged promotional interviews. As a lifelong GL viewer, I felt at the time that no one was seeing what the viewers saw (or cared) until KZ publicly acknowledged her view that the new production values were mostly terrible, and the writing had taken a back seat to Peapack locations. As for why she stayed if she felt like the show should have been cancelled two years earlier, I suppose for partly the same reason many of us kept watching until the very end even though we disliked the changes . . . decades of love and investment in the characters!

    Can’t wait to read the book!

  22. Avatar of blake3b
    blake3b

    Love Kim Zimmer, sure she has said wild things over the years, especially on Guiding Light when she was upset about not getting a story she liked or one big enough for attention, but she was a big part of GL and definitely is a daytime diva. She is not on OLTL very much but she is missed on GL.
    I have to agree with her that GL should have been cancelled when it had to start filming outside. Ellen Wheeler and David Kreizman did make the show very interested when they first came on but it died not too long after that. The only good things that came out of her being her there were Tammy and Jonathan, Olivia and Natalia, return of Phillip and briefly Holly, Ed, Danny, Michelle, Bridget, Nola, Matt, Vanessa.
    But seriously Ellen helped kill Guiding Light, and it didn’t help seeing the executive producer crying. I didn’t get the feeling that she truly cared for it, I felt she was manic.
    Regardless, I can’t wait for Kim’s book.

  23. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    Like I said KZ had the option to QUIT in her Contract. If she hated it so much she should have QUIT. Showing up Drunk to gL saying thats only how she could perform Im sorry thats unprofessional. Complaining on oLTL that she is doing comedy and not working enough. Maybe Kim should go to GH and ask Leslie Charleson, Jacklyn Zeman what not working much actually looks like. This is not 1985 and she will never be Reva Shayne Again. Time 2 move on

    As for her being homophobic i doubt it. Luke went from recuring to contract with the new gay story but if Jake wanted to stay I think they would have kept him. You dont to be 18+ to play gay.

    Yes I may not have agreed with EW’s Vision But At Least she had one, You cant say that about all EP’s. At least she kept hundreds of Actors & crew employed for two more years

  24. Avatar of whereintheworld
    whereintheworld

    [quote=appleridge]Like I said KZ had the option to QUIT in her Contract. If she hated it so much she should have QUIT. Showing up Drunk to gL saying thats only how she could perform Im sorry thats unprofessional. Complaining on oLTL that she is doing comedy and not working enough. Maybe Kim should go to GH and ask Leslie Charleson, Jacklyn Zeman what not working much actually looks like. This is not 1985 and she will never be Reva Shayne Again. Time 2 move on . . . . Yes I may not have agreed with EW’s Vision But At Least she had one, You cant say that about all EP’s. At least she kept hundreds of Actors & crew employed for two more years[/quote]

    Well, it’s all speculation until we read the book, but I don’t find it that hard to understand why KZ could stay but still be angry with where EW had taken the show. She would be just like most of the viewers in that sentiment. As you said, there are a lot of actresses her age (or any age for that matter) out of work. She still had a meaty role on a show she had dedicated most of her professional life to, playing a one of a kind character she loved. With all that, why she stayed doesn’t seem like much of a surprise. (I’m certainly glad she did.) And it doesn’t seem inconsistent with being angry about what EW did to the quality of the production. Most people want to have pride in their work. It must have been very hard to have pride at GL during the last two years of EW’s reign and very frustrating. I’m sure KZ wasn’t the only actor who it was eating away inside. She’s just the most vocal.

    Many fans were in the same place. I watched every single day until the very end, but I can still feel the anger when I think about what EW did to GL when she changed the production model. Yes, she kept the show on, but at what price? The mental images are still there . . . Bill and Lizzie making out literally in a dirt pile; Harley in a scene with no words where she randomly goes up on a ladder and hammers a nail and then comes back down; the psychotic “mood destroying” “Starsky and Hutch” music; characters randomly walking through the woods and coming across each other; Grady dragging a trash bag up the walkway of some dilapidated house; the short snippets of dialogue without depth; characters surrounded by worn, rundown sets. Yes, it got a little better the last year, but EW forgot about the viewer and the escapism of soaps in her quest to be the “savior of soaps”, and she forgot about having pride in the end result. It certainly made me angry as a life-long GL viewer.

    Aside from all that, at least from past KZ interviews, it seems part of the issue between KZ and EW or maybe a result of the issues between them is what EW did to the iconic love story of Reva and Josh. The Reva cancer storyline should have been the ultimate Reva and Josh love story, and a reward to KZ and RN for what they brought to the characters. They should have played that dramatic story together. Instead, EW and DK started the Josh and Cassie debacle, thinking that viewers would warm to them. Personally I loved Reva and Jeffrey together, but still the decision to break Reva and Josh up during the cancer storyline and put Josh and Cassie together while Reva was dying was something of a slap in the face to KZ/Reva fans.

    As for her role on OLTL, I have no idea what was actually said or not said, but I agree with her that OLTL should use Kim and Robin for more than comedy. Watching poor Emmy award winning actress, Robin Strasser, relegated this past year to sitting on the sidelines or playing only comedy is actually a little painful. Y&R manages to find success by using more than one over forty actress in active, adult, meaty storylines. ES, KZ and RS raise the bar at OLTL in any dramatic scene with any of the other characters at least from my perspective. I’d much rather watch them with real material than the teen scene. Just my opinion of course.

    As I said this (as with most of this thread) is all speculation, can’t wait to hear more from Kim in the book!

  25. Avatar of ldylkng
    ldylkng

    Whereintheworld, you are dead on! When Ellen went with the Josh & Cassie thing, I almost quit watching, and believe me when I say, I ff, everytime they were together.
    As a matter of fact, I am pissed off right now just thinking about it!!!!

    Kim Zimmer is real. And she brings that to acting. So I don’t see an actor, I see a person being their self. Always.

  26. Avatar of californiaguy888
    californiaguy888

    I guess we could go on and on about Ellen Wheeler’s vision (or lack of) for Guiding Light. What I remember about the last few years was the very strange obsession with ‘low-life’ types of characters and activites. Everyone seemed to be a criminal or wanted to be one (Grady Foley, Cyrus Foley, Rafe Rivera, Daisy, Remy Boudreau, etc.) Yah, I am old-fashioned I guess but I do remember a time when Guiding Light was populated with Doctors and nurses (Ed, Hillary, Justin, Kelly Nelson, Rick, etc) and Lawyers (Mike Bauer, Ross Marler, etc) and college kids (Beth, Phillip, Mindy, etc.) . I just found the last couple of years uneven and somewhat strange but I did enjoy Otalia.

  27. Avatar of dqh257
    dqh257

    I loved GL, but we all can agree that Wheeler’s version of GL was, for the most part, horrible. I am of the belief that keeping the show on the air was better than cancelling it two years prior, because it kept actors, producers, directors, and writers employed, although the show was going to be cancelled, no matter how cheaply it was produced. Wheeler has gotten enough bad press, so writing a book where you bash her over again seems, to me, to be overkill. If this were someone with no tenure on the show, such as Zack Conroy for example, then we would’ve been killing him for saying the same things. But KZ gets a pass to bash and bash because she was on the show for 30 years. It’s classless and pointless and she’s clearly using it as a marketing tool to sell books to the fans of GL who blame Ellen, when she was between a rock and a hard place and the network was going to cancel the show anyway.

  28. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    and if u watch Kim’s Interview on Emmy TV Legends ahe says and this was done in 2007 that she had equal contract which she explained as she could quit if she wanted to but she would have to give P&G a certain length of notice in doing so. Kim never said what the length of notice was.

    So given that fact and that in other excerpts I read where she shoed up and did work DRUNK and wanted the show dead earlier, she should have just exercised her optionand left.

    If you are that miserable than no amount of cash will make it bearable. Now if she stayed for the money than Im sorry but If u have to option to leave a place u feel is toxic and u sstay then u really cant complain because your choosing to be there and be part of that situation

  29. Avatar of whereintheworld
    whereintheworld

    [quote=dqh257]Wheeler has gotten enough bad press, so writing a book where you bash her over again seems, to me, to be overkill. If this were someone with no tenure on the show, such as Zack Conroy for example, then we would’ve been killing him for saying the same things. But KZ gets a pass to bash and bash because she was on the show for 30 years. It’s classless and pointless and she’s clearly using it as a marketing tool to sell books to the fans of GL who blame Ellen, when she was between a rock and a hard place and the network was going to cancel the show anyway.[/quote]

    KZ’s book is a memoir about her time at GL. There’s no possible way she could write a memoir about GL without addressing her feelings about EW and the last two years of the show, no more than any dedicated viewer can talk about GL without thinking about the last two years.

    Ironically, KZ seems to agree with you about EW. In the interview, she said that in the book she comes around to the conclusion that EW had a job to do and she did it even though KZ disagrees with how she did it, which is essentially what you’re saying. I don’t really agree. As the one in charge, EW had ultimate responsibility for making sure that the integrity of the show was intact through all the changes. Bottom line, she didn’t do that.

  30. Avatar of whereintheworld
    whereintheworld

    [quote=appleridge]If you are that miserable than no amount of cash will make it bearable. Now if she stayed for the money than Im sorry but If u have to option to leave a place u feel is toxic and u sstay then u really cant complain because your choosing to be there and be part of that situation[/quote]

    I would venture to guess that most people have at one time or another in their lives stayed in a job where they hated their boss. It happens. You do it because there are lots of things about the job you like, including your co-workers. You do it because of the amount of blood, sweat and tears you’ve invested in the job. You do it because of job security and a whole host of other reasons. But mostly you do it hoping things will change, and yes, it can get to you. None of us have read the book, but I’m assuming that the drinking is not being touted by Kim as a high point in her life.

    As for criticizing the show while she stayed on it, someone needed to speak up. How can change happen if no one takes a stand, and if not Kim Zimmer than who? TPTB clearly weren’t listening to the viewers. Most of the actors weren’t going to bite the hand that was feeding them. (As evidenced by how many participated in the promotional blitz telling us how great EW and the new production mode was.) Realistically only the actors with clout who weren’t afraid of EW were going to be able to say something, and, at least in my opinion, something had to be said. I don’t think KZ’s decision to stay with the show changes her right to voice her opinion. Her loyalty wasn’t to EW, it was to the show itself . . . the institution that was GL. Sometimes the ultimate in loyalty means speaking up when things are going very wrong. Actually, I applaud anyone who speaks their mind in defense of soaps as a genre. Too few have the guts to do it!

  31. Avatar of marknsprmo
    marknsprmo

    I am most certainly interested in the behind the scenes stuff. I am glad Kim is publishing an honest account. That is hardly ever the case when it comes to soaps. Usually, we get some sachrinely sweetened everyone loves everyone from the soaps so its a nice thing to hear someone have an opinion and willing to share. That it is Kim Zimmer all the better. She has been spinning stories about soap opera for well over 3 decades now and I bet she has some doozies. There has been an issue about Kim and the movie Body Heat for decades now. She and Kathleen Turner have very different stories about who got cast and how in this movie. Kathleen (former Nola The Doctors) claims that she mentioned Kim for the small role in Body Heat. I have seen that according to Kim (also former Nola the doctors), she was up for the staring role but had to turn it down and mentioned Kathleen for the role and just did the small role. Either way, both actresses have had incredible careers since then but I would love a definative answer!

  32. Avatar of SoapArmageddon
    SoapArmageddon

    Re Body Heat:
    I tend to believe Kathleen’s version. The woman was smoking hot in those days. There is no way they wouldn’t have preferred her for the femme fatale role.

  33. Avatar of whereintheworld
    whereintheworld

    [quote=appleridge]@whereintheworld If KZ was so loyl to GL, Cast and Crew she should noyt have shown up on multiple occasions to work drunk[/quote]

    We’ll have to wait to read the book, appleridge, but I’m guessing that KZ herself would agree with your statement. Human frailties, flaws, and regrets are just as common in soap divas as they are in anyone else. I love watching KZ act, and I appreciate her honesty in interviews. I’m not saying she’s a saint. We’re all just “works in process”. Hopefully we learn from our mistakes and try to do better the next time.

  34. Avatar of SwanQueen59
    SwanQueen59

    Here, here, whereintheworld. I see Kim Zimmer as a polished gemstone that’s been taken out of and re-set numerous times in settings that ranged from tarnished tin to gleaming platinum. The lady deserves the title “Diva”. I’m looking forward to her book.

  35. Avatar of gregger
    gregger

    Overweight, okay yeah, but nice of you to point out a physical thing, does anybody comment on your natural hair color?

    Greedy, obviously you have never met Kim. She is one to deflect attention from herself usually it’s done with humour and love. She is perfectly happy sharing jokes with people and having a blast.

    Homophobic, oh HELLTOTHEMUTHAFUCKINNO!!!!!!! I haven’t heard a comment of that ignorance since GW Bush left office and shut up. Every time she ran into me she would talk with me about my boyfriend for two years after the last time I worked with her. Homophobic, not at all.

    To put it clearly and in simple terms, YOU’RE AN IDIOT.

    I had the pleasure of working with Kim on GL and at Martha Byrne’s St Jude Benefits. Kim was always lovely and funny, even when GL had that douchebag Paul Rausch as Exec Producer and a mentally deranged head writer. You will never find crew members that will say a bad word about Kim, she was a champ on GL.

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