Ingo Rademacher Throws Shade at General Hospital’s New Regime!





Not everyone is happy executive producer Frank Valentini and head writer Ron Carlivati are at General Hospital. Ingo Rademacher let his feeling be known on Twitter regarding the former One Life To Life duo coming over to Port Charles. Rademacher tweeted:







Ouch. When a fan chastised the actor for lashing out Rademacher replied:



Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Jill Farren Phelps and Bob Guza who showed Ingo the door? Why all the hateration aimed at the One Lifers?

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67 Responses

  1. Avatar of liason4real
    liason4real

    IR should direct his ire at Guza, JFP and most of all Brian Frons. GH has been a clusterf*ck under that regime and his ouster along with TC had to do with them!

    IMO if GH had been cancelled instead of OLTL, we would still see some of their peeps on the East coast soap if Frons was still in charge.

  2. Avatar of david46208
    david46208

    Passions fans did tune to see Lindsay Hartley, Galen Garing and Eric Martsolf. But at the end of the day the ratings even tanked again on Days. Someone even told them to cool it with the Passions stars migrating to Days. That was a good move.

    Debbie Morgan, Darnell Williams, Melissa Claire Egan have not sparked one iota of interest from most AMC fans to even to take a peak. And obviously Billy Miller, Stephen Nichols, etc. Have not done anything to score with Y&R in the ratings department. Them eye-balls ain’t coming.

    So soaps have been grabbing actors from other shows for decades now and this ain’t nothing new. And in the dying days of soaps what you need to do is reinvest in the characters fans know and love. Even those from the past.

    Again those are just my thoughts. But whatever as long none of them OLTL actors make their way to Salem I’m fine.

  3. Avatar of GHFan76
    GHFan76

    You’re right liason4real. He’s pointing the blame in the wrong direction. FV/RC are GH’s only chance. Even if it’s gonna go out, it will go out with better things than the Lady in White and non-stop Franco-phrenia!

  4. Avatar of angrierblackerman
    angrierblackerman

    He is right. I believe Frank and Ron were not brought on to save GH, they are going to send the show off with some dignity. ABC is having them send the ship off with style.

    GH is toast, it’s a done deal why are people being fooled again that it is being saved? This is ABC folks!

  5. Avatar of Stendu
    Stendu

    Ingo really needs to reevaluate the past decade and a half he had been on General Hospital.

    His character and career on the show was written mostly by Guza and Co. and if I’m correct they didn’t do much for his character if you ask me.

    For being one of GH’s longest running actors, I never once saw a storyline or performance that was memorable or award winning.

    So you think Ingo would want to come back to the soap and reinvent Jax and bring some substance to a rather dull character.

  6. Avatar of soapfan616
    soapfan616

    I applaud any ABC actor for speaking his or her mind. They’ve been under gag orders for so long that I find it refreshing. If more actors had spoken out over the past decade of ABC, the soap “press” may have stopped riding on the jockstraps of soap killers.

    And if IR doesn’t happen to like the creative direction of the new regime (although I think it takes reading between the lines of his tweet to come to that conclusion) then I say that’s his opinion. Not everyone likes camp and the new writer and EP are most adored for their camp. For me, camp is better than the dreadful mess of Guza/Phelps but it’s still not how I had hoped GH would go off the air.

    These actors have nothing to lose anymore. I expect to hear more. We got a bit from NLG a few months ago. I expect that ABC and the powers that be will try to spin this to make the actors the villain. (Just as they did when La Lucci FINALLY spoke her mind about Frons). But come one, soap fans. The GH actors haven’t killed GH. God knows they are the only reason any of us even thought about sticking around the past decade. IR or any other outspoken player in this drama shouldn’t be the target of our anger.

    And so what if he doesn’t worship at the shrine being built for “soap gods Frank and Ron”? A lot of us don’t…our voices just tend to be drowned out amongst the choir singing their praises.

  7. Avatar of Katiebug9624
    Katiebug9624

    I’m kind of getting tired of listening to the whining. I love Jax, I’ve always chosen him over Sonny but the writing for him this past decade has been awful, and ruined his character. Is he upset because he hasn’t been asked back?

  8. Avatar of jphelps
    jphelps

    What I think he’s upset about is that he had another scheduled return and the first thing FV does is cancel it and announce 4 OLTL actors coming on. I realize this site is a cult for RC and FV but try and put it in perspective.

    Soapfan616 I always agree with your posts. I don’t consider a blog ‘press’ but the soap press lost their ability to be objective years ago. Its a shame that no one exists in this genre anymore with an unbiased eye.

  9. Avatar of marybee50
    marybee50

    I understand all the concern about the praise for Frank & Ron,but if you go back they received their fair share of knocks.The first return of Tina and the Stacey Moracso fiasco.The truth may lie in jphelps sentence of Ingo’s scheduled return.Maybe with budget concerns,scheduled leaves may not be in the best interest right now.

    I had a bad feeling when it was announced the OLTL people were coming.I didnt really want to see Blair/Tood/John/Starr at GH so soon.If they were just doing it as a ratings,it may be ok,but I really didnt want GH fans to be alarmed.

    As a fan of GH,Jax is one of my faves.I liked him and Carly together,but hated when he left in the middle of stories.Hopefully this can be resolved and all will be content.

  10. Avatar of Angie Lucy
    Angie Lucy

    FV and RC may be laying GH to rest, but that won’t make them the show’s killers. That would be the daytime execs, Frons, Phelps, and Guza. Coming in to try to write a decent ending shouldn’t be viewed as show killing. If it’s a dig at OLTL being canceled, that wasn’t their fault either. They brought the ratings up and the show under budget. And STILL Frons canceled OLTL anyway. Now, I don’t mind Ingo or anyone not being enamored of FV and RC. I just don’t think it’s fair to act like they killed OLTL and therefore will kill GH.

  11. Avatar of david46208
    david46208

    @marybee50: What I look at is that when Hogan Sheffer first was picked to come to Y&R there was all this praise because of his stint at reviving As The World Turns. Then Paul “best audition in 20 years” Rauch was brought on to Y&R as well. And you see how that worked out.

    There are very few writers withwhom you can say WILL DO THE DAMN THING when they are hired at another soap. Sally Sussman Morina and Lorraine Broderick are two that come to mind when looking at their history. As was Bill Bell and Agnes Nixon in the past.

  12. Avatar of marybee50
    marybee50

    David46208-I don’t know what Frank or Ron will do.I listened to Ron’s podcast and he sounded genuine.Who knows?That is why I’m saying I will give GH a chance again.Lately.GH was unwatchable to me.I did see several episodes this week,and watched the whole thing.Some of it was good,some not.Dont know who wrote them,dont care,it was getting better.

    The changes have been made.Watch and see what happens.

    Also,I loved Hogan on ATWT.Not impressed since.Could the same thing happen?Difference may be that Frank is a GH fan before he was a OLTL fan.That maybe the difference.According to Bradford Anderson the mood at GH is a little better.Let’s hope.

  13. Avatar of Cyberologist
    Cyberologist

    I’m sorry I’m not getting what he said that was so out there…I thought like always Ingo was joking he’s big on that …. I’ve seen many places General Life to Live being joked about …there are rumors Carlintini is honoring their contract with ABC by ushering off GH maybe that is what he’s referring to.

  14. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    Bringing Skye To Gh didnt turnm taht show into AMC & OLTL or did Anna’s stint on AMC make that Show GH.

    Ingo just sounds sour 2 me but if he wants to recur no contract he cant bitch. Cant have cake and eat it to

    If I were RC/FV and saw this id just never bring Jax back

    Ingo has never even worked with this team and he craps on them. Classy not

  15. Avatar of SwanQueen59
    SwanQueen59

    I’m with Cyberologist on this one. If, in actuality, his disappointment is directed at the new regime then it’s a distinct lapse in professionalism.
    I hope he doesn’t end up regreting this “tweet” as I’ve always enjoyed his character. (Which got shafted via the writing during the custody battle.
    But that’s me.)… 0:)

  16. Avatar of SoapGuyFlorida
    SoapGuyFlorida

    I used to watch both shows, but about a year ago GH became completely unwatchable to me. On the other hand, I looked forward to coming home and watching OLTL to the very end.

    Its time to throw everything at the fan you can to make this dreadful show better, and bringing in FV & RC is about the best first step they could have taken.

    In the end, GH is dead in the water. It’d be nice if they at least made it watchable before it went off the air though..

  17. Avatar of Llanview76
    Llanview76

    I can’t believe that would have been Ingo that tweeted that. He seems to have misused the word “it’s”, misspelled “be” and used the wrong form of the word “to”? Is he even on “General Hospital” anymore? If not, maybe he could take remedial English?

  18. Avatar of EricasEvilTwin
    EricasEvilTwin

    I dont think its the most professional thing hes ever done, but I get his frustration. And for the record, I think one of Guza/wolfes biggest mistakes with his character was not exploring a possible pairing between Jax and Elizabeth after Jakes death. more than ewan, matt or lucky, thats the relationship that would have made sense and given the history between carly and liz and joss having jake’s kidney it would have great story potential.

  19. Avatar of soapjunkie88
    soapjunkie88

    What’s going on there now??? When Guza ruined his character and Wolf continued with it, he said NOTHING!!!!

    And now he tries to put blame on the new regime, which is there for like seconds??? Bradford Anderson just did an interview with WELOVESOAP and said he hasn’t even read a script. I don’t think that much time has passed since he made that comment … so to judge so quickly and in the wrong direction is just stupid on Ingo’s part.

    Think we won’t see a lot of him anymore on “GH”.

  20. Avatar of alstonboy4315
    alstonboy4315

    I have never liked Jax, nor have I ever seen any reason for them to keep this irrelevant character on the canvas. I always thought that Ingo had more class than this, but he seems to be just as clueless and self-entitled as some of his other daytime contemporaries, who shall remain nameless!

    Hopefully, Ron and Frank will FINALLY get rid of this overrated character! With no Brenda around, Carly moving on with other men and Alexis not needing him as an earpiece every 5 seconds anymore, Jax doesn’t need to be around either!

  21. Avatar of GG78
    GG78

    That’s why One Life to Live has done better in the ratings than GH, because of the great writing/producing. Honestly, I haven’t cared much for Ingo in years. He’s not much of an actor and the only reason I used to like him was for eye candy. That is until he started looking haggard. Rode hard and put up wet.

  22. Avatar of GG78
    GG78

    GH has been pretty much unwatchable for years, IMO. They’ve made it the Sonny Corinthos show and I HATE it. Bring back Bobbie, Luke, Laura, Lesley Ana, Lucky, Robert, Duke, Lucas, Felicia, A.J., Alan, Stephan, Nikolas, Skye and get Robin to stay! Enough Sonny.

  23. Avatar of Forever21
    Forever21

    [quote=soapfan616]I applaud any ABC actor for speaking his or her mind. They’ve been under gag orders for so long that I find it refreshing. If more actors had spoken out over the past decade of ABC, the soap “press” may have stopped riding on the jockstraps of soap killers.
    And if IR doesn’t happen to like the creative direction of the new regime (although I think it takes reading between the lines of his tweet to come to that conclusion) then I say that’s his opinion. Not everyone likes camp and the new writer and EP are most adored for their camp. For me, camp is better than the dreadful mess of Guza/Phelps but it’s still not how I had hoped GH would go off the air.
    These actors have nothing to lose anymore. I expect to hear more. We got a bit from NLG a few months ago. I expect that ABC and the powers that be will try to spin this to make the actors the villain. (Just as they did when La Lucci FINALLY spoke her mind about Frons). But come one, soap fans. The GH actors haven’t killed GH. God knows they are the only reason any of us even thought about sticking around the past decade. IR or any other outspoken player in this drama shouldn’t be the target of our anger.
    And so what if he doesn’t worship at the shrine being built for “soap gods Frank and Ron”? A lot of us don’t…our voices just tend to be drowned out amongst the choir singing their praises.[/quote]

    Count me in as another viewer who doesn’t think RC/FV shit soap gold. I am happy to see Ingo speaking out. Other actors who might feel the same way can’t say anything since they are still employed by ABC so good for him.

  24. Avatar of JasamForever
    JasamForever

    I have no problem either with Ingo speaking out. I don’t believe it is unprofessional at all. Where in the world is he going to go? There are only like 3 other soaps to choose from. So, what is the point in biting his tongue. He is an unemployed actor, so I understand his frustrations. And Ingo, did speak out when TPTB made the decision to fire him, a year or so ago as did Tyler Christopher.

  25. Avatar of keanna
    keanna

    Listen, we OLTL fans agree that Frank and Ron have had their bad stuff, but even the greatest regimes have had a few wrinkles.

    I have loved Ingo and Jax for years, but he’s pointing the blame in the wrong direction, he should blame Frons/Guza/Phelps/Wolfe, for the writing of his character. Maybe Frank and Ron weren’t going to bring him back right away, but would’ve in the future. Guess that’s done now!!!

  26. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    The Issue I take with Ingo is that It was JFP that Fired Him & ruined Jax by allowing Guza to Pen that fake sex assualt crap

    IR has never worked with Frank or acted a script written by Ron so how can judge the quality?

    Sounds like sour grapes because they havent asked him to return yet

  27. Avatar of giogio
    giogio

    I can excuse anything these actors say cause they have been dealing with abc bull for quite some time. Burn out. Cant blame any one of them. Look at us. We’ve been on this ride with abc and their side kick PP for almost a year. Im creating bad words, they’ve made me so crazy!!!!!

  28. Avatar of Marcelle
    Marcelle

    [quote=appleridge]IR has never worked with Frank or acted a script written by Ron so how can judge the quality?[/quote]
    I wondered the same thing.

    I don’t think RC/FV walk on water, but if GH dies, it won’t be because of them.

  29. Avatar of rlshel1015
    rlshel1015

    am i the only person who is excited that KA, KDP, ME and RH are coming to GH and about the new regime there? the story with the Mannings was one of the biggest dangling stories out there and i think that RC wants to wrap that up and give people the closure that he couldn’t give because of the PP fiasco. AND there needs to be some younger actors there and KA would fill that void. all i know is that the months leading up to the end of OLTL were some of the best and i would come home from work and had to watch each ep. i am excited about what RC and FV will bring to GH. Garin Wolf had his chance and he did not turn things around, now it’s time to try something different. the second half of february cannot come fast enough.

  30. Avatar of thecourt99
    thecourt99

    It’s not about IR not drinking the kool-aid, it’s about IR making the assumption that GH will turn into OL without even a hint of seeing the results on screen.

    The only thing that IR knows is that he isn’t coming back….and that makes it sound like nothing more than sour grapes.

    I understand the fear because OL characters are coming to the show with rumors that more are on their way…but I would imagine that someone that works in the industry would have more patience to see what will happen, rather than respond like an angry viewer.

  31. Avatar of soapfan616
    soapfan616

    [quote=thecourt99]It’s not about IR not drinking the kool-aid, it’s about IR making the assumption that GH will turn into OL without even a hint of seeing the results on screen.

    The only thing that IR knows is that he isn’t coming back….and that makes it sound like nothing more than sour grapes.

    I understand the fear because OL characters are coming to the show with rumors that more are on their way…but I would imagine that someone that works in the industry would have more patience to see what will happen, rather than respond like an angry viewer.[/quote]

    ******
    You are correct that no one knows what this creative team will do with GH. We do know what their style (camp) was on OLTL. We know that they will throw realism out the door if they need to tell a particular story. We also know a bit about this writer’s philosophy of soaps. Something like: viewers will believe Viki on the moon as long as she acts like Viki would on the moon. Well, sorry but not all viewers want to see their soap characters on the f*****g moon.

    I applaud this creative team for bringing back OLTL viewers with their defining “Tale of Two Todds” story. But there are some soap fans who would rather watching peeling paint if all we are going to get is “oops I thought I was dead but then came back to life to find someone living my life”.

    So we all don’t have to sit passively and wait to see. We can make comments and wonder and speculate. And there’s no need to make villains out of anyone who does. Even “soap gods” can be questioned. Can they?

  32. Avatar of marybee50
    marybee50

    Again,I had to get my thoughts together for this post.I am not drinking any kool-aid.Yes,I like Frank & Ron.Do I know that they will save GH?No.But the current regime had stopped me from watching GH.They ruined almost every major character.If not for Perkie’s recaps,I would not know the episode’s story.There may be better writers out there in some minds,but again TPTB control the bottom line.Ron said there were people he wanted to bring back to OLTL,but couldn’t.

    Hopefully,Robin won’t die now,Jax could come back to a better story then the custody story,maybe they will bring back beloved characters.Frank has said GH was his first love,more than OLTL,so maybe he will have the chance to prove that.We said that Garin would be better than the previous writers.Don’t think it worked out that way.Please give Ron a chance.If the ratings improve GH maybe saved.Hopefully that is everyone’s goal.

  33. Avatar of ladyofthelake
    ladyofthelake

    [quote=SoapArmageddon]Wow!!!! All these people hating on the guy because he’s not drinking the Kool-aid.[/quote]

    Exactly. He spoke his mind. It’s probably more to the fact that One Life is off the air under that regime than anything else. I’m sorry but people are praising these guys without seeing one thing yet. What have we heard, there bringing OLTL characters on. Big deal, that is not going to raise ratings folks. I’m not happy about that and I won’t drink the Kool-aid either.

  34. Avatar of david46208
    david46208

    @soapfan616: I have to agree. I wasn’t sold on RC writing either. Even during the diverse 2009 year, there were a lot of ways in-which the process of developing storylines didn’t maintain the Nixon, Bell or Marland style of writing.

    I’m a Head Writer/Executive Producer Nazi!

  35. Avatar of thecourt99
    thecourt99

    [quote=soapfan616]

    So we all don’t have to sit passively and wait to see. We can make comments and wonder and speculate. And there’s no need to make villains out of anyone who does. Even “soap gods” can be questioned. Can they?[/quote]

    I am not the board police. You can make comments and speculate all you want. I don’t consider FV and RC as soap gods, so you are speaking to the wrong audience for that. My point is that first and foremost, they are writers…and while writers have their own approach, they are also able to modify their style to suit the audience that they are writing for. At least good writers should be able to do so. This is a situation where the proof will be in the pudding and anything else is speculation.

    I would expect that IR has had many writers writing for him at various times throughout his career and should know that good writers should have the ability to handle camp vs non-camp.

    That being said…people making RC/FV heroes without seeing their GH approach are in the same camp as demonizing them without seeing their GH apprach.

    there is nothing wrong with a wait and see approach….you obviously disagree, and there is nothing wrong with that either.

  36. Avatar of blake3b
    blake3b

    Wow, he’s bitching about the guys who are brought in to save or help GH go down in a great way but not the ones who butchered his show (Jill Farren Phelps and Bob Guza and Garin Wolf)???? Classy.

  37. Avatar of jphelps
    jphelps

    It’s amazing how all the RC/FV worshippers are now experts in the soap industry. I don’t agree with Ingo’s bitterness as it serves no purpose but I am not him and he has a right to feel this way particularly since it was FV not JFP who cancelled his return. And IR never wanted recurring his contract was terminated which yes JFP owns that but people should quit making judgements on someone who has seen and has actually worked in this industry for years. The cult like fascination with RC/FV amost sounds Jim Jones like. Sure these guys should be given a chance but I am remembering all the love for Sheffer during his AWTW stint, the last 3 years of it dreadful and how Days and Y&R were called brilliant for hiring him only to see his dreadful mysoginistic writing stink up both shows and don’t get me started on the asslicking Guza got for years.I’ll wait and see but I am not about to fawn all over RC or FV or criticize someone who’s opinion does’t mirror theirs.

  38. Avatar of js3557
    js3557

    I think IR is clearly stating that RC/FV were brought in to end GH…just like they were brought in to end OLTL. GH, sadly, will be gone as soon as ABC finds a viable replacement for the mess that is The Revolution. Those who think that RC/FV are going to save GH will most likely be disappointed when GH is cancelled within the year.

    I don’t think IR is personally attacking the skills of RC/FV or the fact that OLTL actors are joining GH. He is attacking the fact that they were brought on to end GH, but are lying to all the fans and saying that they are trying to save GH. I appreciate his intelligence, perceptiveness and honesty.

  39. Avatar of stoney07
    stoney07

    BLECH…..Didn’t like RC’s writing over at OLTL…thought the show was ridiculous AT BEST. I always thought B&B was campy, but OLTL was just…UGHOWEInfrraoiwenf.

    Anyway, I don’t know what the new regime is going to do at GH. Hopefully since he claims he was a GH fan before OLTL, he’ll realize that the two shows are totally different. It would kind of be strange to see the characters of One Life on GH, since the shows have opposite vibes. With that being said, I don’t blast this actor for expressing his feelings. Perhaps there are things going on behind the scenes that we don’t know…or maybe something happened.

    I’m pretty sure it’s nothing but bitterness, but hey…this is this man’s EMPLOYMENT. So he has a right to be bitter if someone is doing something that could affect his career. I understand that IR was gone before this RC and FV announcement…but geez…it’s his opinion, and everyone has one. At least he’s honest, and he’s not telling everyone to agree with him. Much like alot of posters here…people express every day how much BETTER OLTL was than the other soaps…but fans of the other soaps didn’t necessarily get mad (until it got out of control, verging on obsession)…but like I said everyone has an opinion.

  40. Avatar of
    elwood123

    Love when actors speak the truth. The show is dead anyway and he knows it. It’s not like bagging on GH will threaten his chance at landing another acting gig. Hollywood doesn’t take soaps seriously anyway, so nobody will care.

  41. Avatar of
    elwood123

    Love when actors speak the truth. The show is dead anyway and he knows it. It’s not like bagging on GH will threaten his chance at landing another acting gig. Hollywood doesn’t take soaps seriously anyway, so nobody will care.

  42. Avatar of
    elwood123

    [quote=blake3b]Wow, he’s bitching about the guys who are brought in to save or help GH go down in a great way but not the ones who butchered his show (Jill Farren Phelps and Bob Guza and Garin Wolf)???? Classy.[/quote]

    If you HONESTLY think actors & writers from a CANCELLED soap were brought on to ‘help GH’, then I have beach front property in Arizona cheap to offer you.

    Ingo knows exactly what is going on, just as most of us do. They were brought on the END GH, nothing more.

  43. Avatar of jphelps
    jphelps

    [quote=elwood123]If you HONESTLY think actors & writers from a CANCELLED soap were brought on to ‘help GH’, then I have beach front property in Arizona cheap to offer you. Ingo knows exactly what is going on, just as most of us do. They were brought on the END GH, nothing more.[/quote]

    That’s how I took it. He likely knows GH is already cancelled and unlike the actors at ABC under a gag order he has nothing to lose at this point. FV was likely only brought in to ensure the show wraps up within budget as JFP was still way over with no signs of improving it.

  44. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    I dont think anyone disagrees that FV and RC were brought in to make sure GH goes off with class but IR has never worked with these guys and has not seen any of their work at GH. Maybe h should wait & see before speaking

    IMHO another part is s our grapes that he is not there. Now If Guza and Frons didnt fire him, Im sure FV & RC woulda had story for him. They are not making any big cast changes except for the newbies like the lady In White but no long term characters have been cut as of now.

  45. Avatar of Forever21
    Forever21

    [quote=appleridge]I dont think anyone disagrees that FV and RC were brought in to make sure GH goes off with class but IR has never worked with these guys and has not seen any of their work at GH. Maybe h should wait & see before speaking
    IMHO another part is s our grapes that he is not there. Now If Guza and Frons didnt fire him, Im sure FV & RC woulda had story for him. They are not making any big cast changes except for the newbies like the lady In White but no long term characters have been cut as of now.[/quote]

    So what if Ingo hasn’t yet worked with them? You don’t know the basis of Ingo’s statments so may be you should also wait before accusing him of “sour grapes”. May be he still knows people at GH who have shared certain concerns or displeasure and he is saying something they can’t.

  46. Avatar of Luke
    Luke

    [quote=elwood123][quote=blake3b]Wow, he’s bitching about the guys who are brought in to save or help GH go down in a great way but not the ones who butchered his show (Jill Farren Phelps and Bob Guza and Garin Wolf)???? Classy.[/quote]

    If you HONESTLY think actors & writers from a CANCELLED soap were brought on to ‘help GH’, then I have beach front property in Arizona cheap to offer you.

    Ingo knows exactly what is going on, just as most of us do. They were brought on the END GH, nothing more.[/quote]

    I think blake3b acknowledged in their post that RC/FV were brought in to either save GH or end the show. It says as much in the actual post.

    And further, no one is asking anyone to drink any kool-aid about anyone. But as has been said, where was this fiery language when his character was in the process of being ruined year after year? And like other’s have said, he has no clue what this regime’s plans are and it comes off looking like sour grapes.

  47. Avatar of Luke
    Luke

    [quote=Forever21][quote=appleridge]I dont think anyone disagrees that FV and RC were brought in to make sure GH goes off with class but IR has never worked with these guys and has not seen any of their work at GH. Maybe h should wait & see before speaking
    IMHO another part is s our grapes that he is not there. Now If Guza and Frons didnt fire him, Im sure FV & RC woulda had story for him. They are not making any big cast changes except for the newbies like the lady In White but no long term characters have been cut as of now.[/quote]

    So what if Ingo hasn’t yet worked with them? You don’t know the basis of Ingo’s statments so may be you should also wait before accusing him of “sour grapes”. May be he still knows people at GH who have shared certain concerns or displeasure and he is saying something they can’t.[/quote]

    If that’s the case, then its his job to clarify such things. Don’t go on social networks, make such comments and then don’t put them into any context so people can speculate on what it means and who its directed to. I love Ingo. If I had my way, he’d still be with the show. But on the surface, this comes off as being very petty and bitter. He has reason to be with the previous regime. But as far as we know, RC/FV have done or said nothing in bad taste in regards to him or his character

  48. Avatar of GHfan-4now
    GHfan-4now

    But as has been said, where was this fiery language when his character was in the process of being ruined year after year?

    ***********

    I agree. Guza and Co. basically killed Jax, and Wolfe just helped to bury the corpse.

  49. Avatar of GHfan-4now
    GHfan-4now

    The cult like fascination with RC/FV amost sounds Jim Jones like.

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    Frankly, I’m NOT fascinated with Ron. I don’t think he’s the best thing since sliced bread and I don’t think that the sun shines out of his ass. I think that he liked to do things his way. And I don’t think he cared about pissing off the fans if a story or character suited HIS needs. I think that there were times he ruined characters for story (Marty), propped unnecessary characters for plot (Tomas, anyone named Ford), and changed history to suit whatever current story he was trying to tell at the time (Two Todd’s). He’s pissed me off more than actually made me happy. There were things he did that I wish he DIDN’T. Character’s he brought on that were clearly not NEEDED. And stories that were FORCED upon the audience just because HE was a fan first and foremost (Jess/Mess/Ford). Overall, I felt that he had MAJOR issues with his writing. I could go on.

    But in the final months of the show, I chose not to dwell on those things because A) it was ending, and B) before final curtain call, *I* got what *I* wanted at the end of the day as a fan. Does that make all of his wrongs right? No, but it didn’t leave me with a bitter taste in my mouth once the show ended at 1pm central time, January 13th.

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    [quote=GHfan-4now]The cult like fascination with RC/FV amost sounds Jim Jones like.Frankly, I’m NOT fascinated with Ron. I don’t think he’s the best thing since sliced bread and I don’t think that the sun shines out of his ass. I think that he liked to do things his way. And I don’t think he cared about pissing off the fans if a story or character suited HIS needs. I think that there were times he ruined characters for story (Marty), propped unnecessary characters for plot (Tomas, anyone named Ford), and changed history to suit whatever current story he was trying to tell at the time (Two Todd’s). He’s pissed me off more than actually made me happy. There were things he did that I wish he DIDN’T. Character’s he brought on that were clearly not NEEDED. And stories that were FORCED upon the audience just because HE was a fan first and foremost (Jess/Mess/Ford). Overall, I felt that he had MAJOR issues with his writing. I could go on. But in the final months of the show, I chose not to dwell on those things because A) it was ending, and B) before final curtain call, *I* got what *I* wanted at the end of the day as a fan. Does that make all of his wrongs right? No, but it didn’t leave me with a bitter taste in my mouth once the show ended at 1pm central time, January 13th.[/quote]
    I can honestly say I don’t care if a writer pisses off fans or fanbases.Online opinion and input has hurt soaps a lot. New stories or characters are not allowed to unfold before onliners start hating on something and stories as a result are not allowed to organically develop. The minute a fave is pushed into a supporting role in a story its dismissed.As long as a writer respects the history of the show and doesn’t just randomly do crap for shock value or twist the canvas into knots, I am cool with it.

    What I dislike are those who might express one iota of question about RC/FV, labeled a hater and bitter and resentful or sour grapes like they can’t have an opinion other than RC and FV crap rainbows and flowers.Its the same ish when anyone dared to question PP because Frank was involved. No one even considers perhaps Ingo knows more than a few onliners, I am all for giving FV/RC a chance but that doesn’t mean I have to fawn over them. I watched this same obsession with Sheffer and yes Guza and how did that end up.

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    GHfan-4now

    [quote] What I dislike are those who might express one iota of question about RC/FV, labeled a hater and bitter and resentful or sour grapes like they can’t have an opinion other than RC and FV crap rainbows and flowers. [/quote]

    Well, I’ve already said I don’t think the sun shines out of Ron’s ass, so I can’t condemn anyone who thinks the same. But I also believe that if Ingo had spoken out about his and Jax’s treatment when Guza, Phelps, and Wolfe were in charge, as well as the state of GH being one foot in the grave long before the new regime came in, this wouldn’t even be much of an issue. IDGAFF who is coming in to replace the old regime. The new people in charge are not the ones who screwed him, his character, or ran GH into the ground.

    [quote] I watched this same obsession with Sheffer and yes Guza and how did that end up. [/quote]

    Sheffer and Guza? I never fawned over them, so I can’t speak on that.

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    jphelps

    I wasn’t speaking to you I was speaking in general terms.

    As for speaking out while employed, why would he do that. Who at AMC or OLTL spoke out over the years?Lucci and Slezak. You thinK someone like Bree or a Vincent Irizzary would have meant anything. The only ones with any leverage at GH were Tony Geary, Maurice, and Steve Burton who basically cared only about themselves (they were catered to) and not about the quality of the show.

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    GHfan-4now

    [quote] I wasn’t speaking to you I was speaking in general terms. [/quote]

    I’m fully aware of that. I answered anyway.

    [quote] As for speaking out while employed, why would he do that. [/quote]

    Why not do it now? He has no problem speaking out against the new regime that could potentially hire him back for the end, why not speak out against the one that canned him, his character, and treated both shabbily over the years?

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    I find it ironic that anyone is hating on Ingo for expressing himself on a social network by expressing themselves on a blog. He is allowed too.

    I have mixed feelings about OLTL actors coming on to GH. I loved OLTL and I loved GH. OLTL got to wrap up their stories by their end date. GH should have the same opportunity. I feel like the OLTL actors can possibly get in the way of GH ending with GH characters front and center. I want to see how Lucky and Liz get back together. I want to see the Mob finally lose. I would love to see Alexis find happiness. I want Robin to have a happy ending with Patrick. I do not see how Blair and Todd won’t clog up the works. But, I want to see Blair and Todd. I do not want to see them more than I would love to see Vicki and Bo though. I like Starr but liked Tea more. See? Mixed feelings!!!

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