HomeTVABCRatings, Rants and Raves: General Hospital Holds Steady in Demos; The Young and the Restless Ties All-Time Low in Households Jamey Giddens March 19, 2012 ABC, All My Children, CBS, Days of Our Lives, General Hospital, NBC, One Life to Live, The Bold and the Beautiful, The Young and The Restless 19 Comments There has been a lot of talk this weekend about all four daytime soap operas falling among total viewers the week of March 5-9 (Source: Soap Opera Network), but it's important to remember, the networks, nor Mad Ave. really care about total viewers — its the demos they're concerned about. ABC Daytime's General Hospital managed to hold steady in households, women 18-49 and W18-34. The fact that GH is pulling in a solid 1.0 in W18-49, while The Revolution only managed a 0.5 the week in question is the real story. The Mouse House needs to admit they effed up with The Revolution and give that timeslot to GH, STAT! In story, Sonny (Maurice Benard) vs. Todd (Roger Howarth) kicked off in a major way, as the One Life to Live supervillain learned from his devastated daughter Starr (Kristen Alderson) that a man named Sonny COR-in-thos was supposedly responsible for Cole (Van Huighes) and Hope's deaths. Over at G.H., Carly (Laura Wright) was doing everything she could see Jason (Steve Burton), after Sam (Kelly Monaco) had her banned from his room. This led to Carly facing off with Sam's mama—and Carly's fellow Corinthos baby mama—Alexis (Nancy Lee Grahn), who called Carly out for boning Johnny (Brandon Barash). None of the doctors at G.H. noticed any of the aforementioned shenanigans, because they were too busy arguing about what went down in Memphis. Blonde Doctor Woman tried to get Steve Webber (Scott Reeves) not to tell Olivia (Lisa LoCicero) what they did at their last hospital, to no avail. When I heard GH was doing a Dexter style arc for Steve, this is so not what I envisioned. The remnants of the goofy Luke (Tony Geary), Holly (Emma Samms) and Ethan (Nathan Parson) vs. Helena (Constance Towers) saga wrapped up, as Dodge agreed to leave town so that Robert (Tristan Rogers) could chase after his "son," thus having something to live for after losing Robin (Kimberly McCullough). This brings us to our Crazy Blonde Chicks portion of the General Hospital discussion. Crazy Maxie (Jenn Lilley) buried her selfish self in work, to avoid guilt over having baked Robin in her Easy Bake Laboratory; while crazier Kate (Kelly Sullivan) was morphing into other people and what not. I enjoyed GH the week in question much more than I have in months. While some of it wasn't perfect (Buh bye, Ethan and Holly!), the Mannings shaking things up, Ewen (Nathin Butler) being utilized as good and proper eye candy and NuKate/Connie finally proving viable, began to reveal the signs of a much more watchable soap to come. Days of Our Lives fell one-tenth of a point in households, but held steady in W18-49 and W18-34. Storywise, Bo (Peter Reckell) was hanging on for dear life, after he and big brother Chris Kositchek (Josh Taylor) caught a beat down from some thugs. Hope (Kristian Alfonso) learned John (Drake Hogestyn) was still with the ISA and wanted in on the action. Sami (Alison Sweeney) discovered Lucas (Bryan Datillo) was engaged. Billie Reed (Lisa Rinna) returned to assume the co-CEO spot at Countess Wilhemina. Madison (Sarah Brown) told Ian (Ian Buchanan) she wanted out of their marriage. Marlena (Deidre Hall) gently counseled a sexually conflicted Will (Chandler Massey) and Abigail's little fast behind lied to Carrie (Christie Clark) about having slept with Austin (Patrick Muldoon). I'm digging John and Hope's Alamainian adventure, despite its utter absurdity and bad set design. I miss the days of the splashy location shoots for Days of Our Lives. However, I am reconciled to Salem superheroes heading off to foreign lands basically meaning the show has to dress up the same set used for the Brady Pub to serve as an Alamainian bistro. At least Alfonso and Hogestyn look like they're having fun — and that's something! It was good to see Billie and Lucas home in Salem, although I hope DAYS doesn't take them down familiar romantic paths. Lumi are great as co-parents and sparring frenemies, but I don't want to see another match up, where Lucas is forever telling Sami how terrible she is. As for Billie, she only worked opposite Robert Kelker Kelly's Bo, let's accept that and move on. There are plenty of other men in Salem for Billie to go after. If memory serves me, Rinna and Matt Ashford once had incredible chemistry. Why not let Jack give Jenn (Melissa Reeves) a taste of her own medicine, by having him take his ex-wife's former bestie out on the town? Will and Marlena's relationship continues to be the Number 1 reason to watch DAYS, or any soap for that matter. Tune in, you won't be let down! 19 Responses Camp is not a sustainable model March 19, 2012 @Jamey: You know the hotel room where Hope and John are staying at, is the Dimera mansion vestibule with blue wall paper over it. Guess that’s one way to work on a budget. Also, the one comedic part of Days (which was not supposed to be) was Josh Taylor (Roman) trying to get himself an Emmy nomination for his reaction as Roman to Bo being beat to a bloody pulp. Boy, I have seen better acting from a 5 year old starring as the “Teapot.” But it was funny. On a GH note. I have to wonder what you think about Ron breaking Douglas Marland’s rule about introducing new characters? “Build new characters slowly. Everyone knows that it takes six months to a year for an audience to care about a new character. Tie them in to existing characters. Don’t shove them down the viewers’ throats.” This has seemed to cause a bit of controversy to say the least when it comes to the Manning’s making their way to P.C. Log in to Reply SoapArmageddon March 19, 2012 Location shoots give a soap credibility. I understand the need to keep within budget limits; but the states of California and nearby Nevada have an incredible variety of backdrops that the shows could be using. Vegas has plenty of fake European backdrops that could sub for Alamainia. A lack of creativity across the board is what is killing these shows. Log in to Reply DevinMissesOLTL March 19, 2012 Ok, so I was just wondering was it me…As good as GH has been, there are little things that kinda nag at me. Jason had the operation on his head right? Sooooo, why when he woke up, he had perfect salon hair LOL! I mean his hair was so perfect, like his head had never been touched. He had just woke up and was fully dressed all the way down to his shoes. He didn’t look like he had been in the bed a few minutes let alone a few days LOL! No gown??? No head wrap??? I remember when they your wrap their heads up so much, their heads looked twice it natural size LOL! they need to be a lil mo realistic with this stuff.I mean it is a hospital show. I know that budget is cut but damn! Log in to Reply soapjunkie88 March 19, 2012 Guess the Manning show didn’t work as well as some wished. You just can put these new people on and let them rule the entire show. It’s not possible. It’s a deal breaker! I really hope Ron and Frank learn from that. Log in to Reply Jamey Giddens March 19, 2012 @David re: Doug Marland’s rules. I know this is soap sacrilege to say it, but a lot has changed since he wrote that column. When Doug wrote his rules, there weren’t 500 cable channels for daytime soaps to compete with, or Facebook, Twitter, social gaming, You Tube, etc. I guess what I’m saying is, in a time when these shows are on their last legs, it might be time to break a few rules, even Marland’s. Log in to Reply blake3b March 19, 2012 Days keeps getting more interesting! I never noticed about the sets, I’ll have to watch out for that. I remember when Guiding Light kept doing that, especially with so many of the characters staying at the Beacon hotel. They would use the same room but change it up for the different characters. Guess all the shows are going to get to this point to save on budget. I noticed on today’s show that Lisa Rinna looks so much better and her plastic surgery is not AS noticable when she’s just in her workout top and not much makeup. She should keep that in mind to make her look better and a bit younger. Log in to Reply alstonboy4315 March 19, 2012 Lisa Rinna was VERY stiff and unbelievable her first week on the show, but I do see her getting better and better. Don’t remember her first round on DAYS, but I do remember her on “Melrose Place,” so I do know that she can act. Hopefully, she has an acting coach on standby to help her figure it out again and knock the dust off! Patrick Muldoon is just not working for me as Austin! Despite his mass popularity in the 90s, I am just not getting his appeal this time around! What exactly is he bringing to the table? His acting is wooden and dry. Again, I never watched his portrayal in the early 90s, so perhaps I am missing something, but it seems that maybe the show’s producers were expecting lightning to strike twice? Might be time for them to start gnawing on some crow and call up Austin Peck! Or maybe they are afraid that he’s a show-killer and that’s why they are reluctant to bring him back? Still, I can think of a few actors who they can recast as Austin. It’s worth the effort, in my book. Nothing against Kate Mansi, who seems like a decent actress, but Abigail comes across to me as a low-budget, boring version of the old 1990s Sami Brady. At least Sami was interesting. Can’t say the same about Abby. If they turn her into a full-blown mini psycho like they did with Sami, maybe I will start to care. Otherwise………YAWN!!!! Genevieve is growing on me too since she’s doing more than standing there and smirking like a toddler with gas. Call me crazy, but since Daisy started sticking it to that whiny, pathetic, hypocritical red-headed walking STD, Phyllis, I have found Daisy to be more tolerable. I am glad that Phyllis is finally getting a taste of her own medicine. Sharon is annoying and I feel she needs to leave the show for about 6 months. Not interested in another Shadam reunion. Please don’t waste anymore time trying to turn Adam/Sharon into GH’s Luke/Laura, Another World’s Rachel and Carl or Guiding Light’s Holly and Adam! It ain’t working! Log in to Reply Camp is not a sustainable model March 19, 2012 @Jamey: Fair enough. If it can save some legs, try what you got to try. Log in to Reply MsAgentProvocateur1 March 19, 2012 [quote=david46208]”Build new characters slowly. Everyone knows that it takes six months to a year for an audience to care about a new character. Tie them in to existing characters. Don’t shove them down the viewers’ throats.”[/quote] I know you didn’t ask my opinion,david but this is such an intriguing question, and Marland was one of, if not the favorite soap scribe for me, so I couldn’t resist this one. I think, ideally, the way Marland describes is the best way to introduce a new character (I can think of a few examples of this on ATWT) but I wonder whether the writing team at GH has 6 months to gradually do anything right now. They are probably feeling the heat because they know they must get butts in seats and in front of the sets to watch GH, so they’ve got to pull in the numbers any which way they can (ticking off as few people as possible). Right now, they are in a somewhat less than ideal situation and desperate times call for desperate measures. At the very least, these characters are not brand new characters pulled from nowwhere, their histories/backstories are easily researchable. If they were newly invented characters that were previously unknown by anyone and then were thrown into an immediate tragedy, I’d really wonder what was going on, but most people know at least a few things about these characters. Personally, I have mixed feelings about it but I can see why they would resort to this, to get those viewers watching to bring the numbers. Log in to Reply SoapyBitch March 19, 2012 I’ve been an ABC soap fan forever so I don’t mind characters crossing over, in fact I like it. I actually like seeing multiple characters I love interacting with one another and this actually seems better than simply bringing in an actor for a new role. I’m curious about the P&G moves. How were the introduction and integration of the AW characters into ATWT and how many made the cross over? How was the reaction back then? Log in to Reply GaryJr March 19, 2012 I couldn’t agree more with your assessment of Days. The entire show is mired down in absolutely chemistry-free/lackluster storylines. I’ve been watching since 1984 & I’m bored to tears. The only magic is Will/Marlena/Sami and giving them one day’s worth of episodes a week isn’t enough for me to fast-forward through the entire show in 5 minutes day-after-day & read the Comcast recap (they give away the entire plot anyway). As I Tweeted, “You know you’re in trouble when the most exciting storyline is Marlena and Will playing Scrabble.” Other than that the only other fun moment was Will/EJ/Lucas. The writers only seem to bring any witty & fun dialogue with the stories revolving around Will. This is your money story! It should be your A-story, not your C-story. Log in to Reply Camp is not a sustainable model March 19, 2012 @MsAgentProvocateur1: It was a good assessment and taking it all in. So thanks! Log in to Reply MsAgentProvocateur1 March 19, 2012 Couldn’t help myself, david46208 (LOL). I completely forgot that I was going to ask/comment about what was going on with Y&R. I’m trying not to raise my BP with this show, so I don’t even comment about it anymore. Still wonder how far a drop in the ratings have to occur before some new writers are brought in. Log in to Reply MsAgentProvocateur1 March 19, 2012 @SoapyBitch, when the AW crossovers happened, it was a different situation because for all we knew back then ATWT, while not in the best of times was not considered in danger back then (oh how little we knew at those times!) and there were really only a couple of characters that migrated and one in particular, the Jake character, appeared to blend very well to the Oakdale landscape. He came on working for one of the staple characters, the media mogul Lucinda Walsh and eventually became a love interest to Molly Conlon, which was a breath of fresh air because finally Molly wasn’t chasing a man who was involved with someone else and it was a reciprocal romance. If there were some disgruntled ATWT fans, I didn’t notice it then but I wasn’t on messageboards much back then (the old Soap City boards sometimes). But then the writing went hideously wrong and they killed off Jake and his deceased wife Vicky’s mother & sister came and took away the daughters that Molly had been raising with Jake. Molly was essentially left without a storyline when she had been in a prominent SL and part of what some thought, an emerging supercouple for well over a year. I must clarify though that Douglas Marland had been dead for years when the AW crossover took place. When I referred to him, I was mainly referring to his ability to introduce brand new characters. I don’t know whether anyone remembers the Casey Peretti character but his entry into Oakdale was fascinating. He was this very driven, somewhat nitpicky, Doctor who seemed to drive the normally mild manner Dr. Bob Hughes crazy! He wasn’t really obnoxious (intentionally) but because he always thought he could improve on hospital systems, he constantly had suggestions to which Dr. Hughes could only roll his eyes at. And he had the ability to rally the other interns to his cause (of which he kept a list) and took his spokesperson position very seriously. He was relentless. Well, for several months it seemed as Casey was headed toward a relationship with Dr. Bob’s daughter Frannie Hughes (played by Julianne Moore) who had just gotten out of a really tragic relationship with a psycho. In the end, Casey ends up falling in love with his landlord, Lila Montgomery a nurse at the hospital where they both work. It was a bit surprising but it definitely did not come out of nowhere as he boarded at her house, they worked at the same place and had become confidantes and encouraged each other. Through this, we got to know and like Casey and this unconventional couple (he was only a few years younger than Lila’s son) became very popular. It was even funny how her adult children put the pieces together about their Mother’s much younger new boyfriend. I think because Casey, as a new character was introduced in a thoughtful manner, we got to know about him, warts and all so by the time he became involved in a relationship with Lila, we discovered we liked this character. And we liked him with Lila. Even Lila’s son, who was shocked had to admit that he liked Casey. The storyline was sneaky, you didn’t see it coming but it made perfect sense. You can only build that type of character if you have time. Log in to Reply GHfan-4now March 19, 2012 [quote] Sharon of course turned to Nick (Joshua Morrow), who of course had just gotten back with Phyllis (Michelle Stafford), who of course turned into an emotional, jealous wreck when she saw the college sweethearts embracing. [/quote] This triangle is just not THAT damn epic that MAB needs to continue with the same damn story over and over with the three of them. I stopped checking for Phick about a year ago and Shick is so far down my list, I can hardly see them. It’s been nothing but wash, rinse, repeat, dirty it up and do it all over again, the same exact way, we all know how to play the game. Phyllis turns into a total LOON whenever Nick’s d*ck swings toward Sharon’s WELCOME HOME sign and Sharon finds comfort from him anytime his brother lies to her, but she’ll go right back into his bed like she always does, just as Phyllis does with Nick. How and why should I care or continue to be invested in this tripe? Nick never has a problem humping the nearest leg that moves near his underneath the dinner table. I’m positively shocked he hasn’t tapped Genevive yet just for shits and gigs. Log in to Reply twb6yz March 19, 2012 “I noticed on today’s show that Lisa Rinna looks so much better and her plastic surgery is not AS noticable when she’s just in her workout top and not much makeup. She should keep that in mind to make her look better and a bit younger.” Now, for me, all I could see was the surgery. The amount of filler and botox on her face stifled the ability of anything nuanced in her performance. I watched her and thought that she”s no longer an actress but someone who has crossed from acting to being solely a celebrity. Log in to Reply hey mon March 19, 2012 GHfan-4now — Give Nick a chance. Once Nugget finds out that ol Vic is having a good time with Genevieve, I’m sure she’s next on his ‘hit’ list. Nick had a good time with Diane, right after Daddy showed an interest. MAB ALMOST went ‘there’ with Nick & Ashley last August. Nick was already ‘smellin’ after Dady’s ex-wife when Nick & Ashley were trying to trace Ashley’s cell phone from The Park in Diane’s Murder Mystery. But MAB pulled back at the last moment. Thank Goodness. The only reason Nick didn’t get to ‘tap’ Sabrina is cause she died too early on. Ol Vic is always anti-Adam. Maybe he should be anti-Nick, someone who is always trying to ‘fire truck’ ol Vic’s girlfriends and ex-wives. Log in to Reply doodleynoodle March 20, 2012 Seeing OLTL characters on GH doesn’t bother me…at all. This could be the cutting edge of a new era for the soap ABC has left. Instead of ringing the final death knell for soaps they could be on to something revolutionary by integrating more of the casts together…as long as the airtime is equitable. I don’t necessarily need to know what Carly’s doing 30 minutes of the show, 5 days a week. If they can write good stories and keep my faves, I’m all for it. GH had become way too incestuous anyway. Maybe they can start writing QUALITY stories for Sonny & his posse. I’m so tired of who Sonny has become. Grow him the flip up and his little minions too. I was thinking about what a great team Bo & Mac would make. Why don’t they do something REALLY outrageous…like let the good guys win for a change. That would set the whole town on its ear and I would LOVE for Sonny & Co be forced to find an alternate lifestyle…jail or change. NOONE can last as long as he has in this day & age in his line of work without getting thrown in jail, getting killed or being a NARC. On a different note…I’m a relative newcomer to Days. I started watching a couple of years ago when I still had SoapNet so I’m sorry in advance if I offend anyone with this question but when I tuned in the other day, I caught Kate & Billie sticking it to Sami. Is it true that Billie is supposed to be Kate’s daughter??? She looks 10 years older than Kate. At least. Scary. Log in to Reply soapfan616 March 20, 2012 RE: breaking Marland’s rules. I say break every last one of them if you are attempting to do something different and revolutionary. When you break them JUST to give Sonny ANOTHER enemy and for more GH gunplay and unnecessary violence, I don’t think you’re going to see GH attracting back lost viewers or enticing anyone else to come on board. Log in to Reply Leave a Reply Cancel Reply You must be logged in to post a comment.