So Yeah: New General Hospital Promo Spoils Jason and Franco's Connection






I tell you what, these shows get sooooo pissy-wissy about the evil Internet spoiling all their storylines, when their own promo department gives up more leg than we ever could! Check out the new promo below for General Hospital.

It basically reveals the secret Heather Webber (Robin Mattson) is keeping about Jason (Steve Burton) and Franco (James Franco), all in a 30-second spot. See the "teaser' after the jump!




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Teh Evul twin!

One of the oldest soap cliches and retcons of all time.

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Don't care about this, but they better leave Jason as Alan's son or I will definitely stop watching this show. That would also make Franco a Quartermaine, which is a huge fucking joke. Either way this is a terrible decision and they should have just let the entire Franco story go. Massively bad decision. I don't think I've ever threatened to stop watching a show due to any storyline sucking or actor leaving, but they are really playing with fire here. This could be worse than killing off the entire Q family.

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If there is anyone out there who still believes ABC is not done with soaps,this should again be a wake-up call.They use to spoil OLTL until they didn't care anymore,and cancelled it.I do not watch ABC,because of this broken trust.They are the evil twin of soaps.

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Jason likes targeting and/or killing off siblings, whats new here?!? [cough-AJ] Robo Jason, he's a one dimensional killer and its getting monotonous! Someone kill HIM off, -please!!

I was really hoping NotDeadRobins elixer would give Jason a brain reboot! [sigh].... system failure!

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I thought I read somewhere FV wanted to be finished with this gibberish storyline? Sigh. Tired Does it have something to do with James Franco being guaranteed something even if it's just his image on screen? Please,(even with RM being part of this), let it be over soon... Innocent

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What is the point? We're probably never going to see Franco again, and what is Jason going to do? Look even more confused?

This reminds me of stupid non-storylines like OLTL having Cutter and Kim as Alex Olanov's children. Are we just supposed to go, "Wow!" and shake our heads at the brilliant twist?

Why not just pick out names out of the GH history book and have Franco as Howie Dawson's son? Or maybe Rose Kelly's! Now there's a twist!

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*YAWN*

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I hope GH doesn't re-write history again.

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The most interesting part of the promo was McBain hugging on Sam, and it sounds like she's going back under the bus again soon pregnant belly and all, can't have high and mighty Super Jason looking bad can we?

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Agreed! I don't care about this storyline at all. I think this will be the last straw for me with GH.. I tried to watch it, but it seems that even this storyline won't keep me interested. I guess I will find something else to do with my time at 2pm.

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OLTL fans know you gotta take the bad with the good when it comes to FV and RC. This just sounds awful...

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I agree with (almost) everyone how the Franco "story" devolved into a nearly unintelligible mess. I'm not speaking from the POV of publicity or ratings, but rather the actual messy, nearly incomprehensible narrative. While I personally found it entertaining in its initial stages (wonderfully creepy setup, interesting first arc), it just went way south for just about every reason that many viewers and critics alike have cited. HOWEVER, there are two things that I appreciate here:

The first is that, as far as retcons go (which themselves are a part of every soap opera's history, ie the many, many retcons of "Who killed Victor Lord (Sr.)?"/the reveal of birth of Victor Lord, Jr. on OLTL; the reveal of Erica's rape by Richard Fields and the birth of Kendall on AMC; or the greatest retcon of all time, the reveal of Scott Eldrige being Lisa's son on ATWT written by the often cited Douglas Marland himself, who twisted an offscreen period & characters from the ATWT prime time spinoff Our Private World to shoehorn the reveal on As the World Turns!...to name a precious few as related to heretofore unknown children)...

a) the whole "Who is Franco?" through line gestated for the better part of two years, so this reveal wasn't completely pulled out of their asses. Almost from the very beginning, Franco made cryptic references to him and Jason "being the same," which was initially interpreted (by Jason and, by extension, the audience) as Franco finding a psychotic connection and not initially thinking it literal....

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b) Carlivati is not just letting a sleeping dog lie. A two year build up deserves some sort of payoff, even at this late date. As is his want, Carlivati does try to tie things together and, as Franco is a still a relatively recent story, he is using it to tie in...you know...HISTORY: Susan Moore, the return of Heather Webber (Robin Mattson, already great in her so far brief return) and her connection to her onscreen son Steven and so on and so forth. He is also using this as a (presumable) way to thrust McBain & Sam further into each others' orbits, while pushing Jason toward the Quartermaines.

So, it's easy simply to take the Franco story/reveal in isolation and hate it and not care about it for the James Franco/Jill Farren Phelps sins of the past alone, but Carlivati deserves some credit for using it to setup new story directions AND integrate history. While there always rolling choruses of "this could have done it better/differently/not at all," I commend Carlivati & Valentini for taking this lemon and attempting to make some lemonade.

(BTW, I actually think Carlivati's reveal that Cutter & Kim were Alex Olanov's kids on OLTL was genius! Not only did it tie them to a beloved character and (in soap terms) gave their grifter/con artist leanings some historical weight, it should also be noted that — at the time — OLTL was still thought to be headed to the internet and Carlivati & Valentini were keeping various options open to them for actors/characters that could have made the jump. Making Cutter & Kim Alex's kids helped ground them to Llanview — and potentially many of its citizens — a little more if the show had gone online.)

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J Bernard Jones,,,Thanks for writing up that long post so that I could simply nod my head in agreement. RC/FV are using GH history to promote story for the current actors along with bringing back some of the favorite older vets. RC is already intertwining the story lines on GH!

I, too, loved the reveal that Alex was Kim and Cutter's bioglical mother!

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is Franco being Jason's long-lost twin brand-new from Cavilarti or was that already in place with Guza and then Wolfe??

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Re: Heather Webber promo? WoW this is yet another promo? LoL

Carlivati is pimping the shit out of JaSam .... another promo? How many in the past year? It truly is the Jason & Sonny show. I'm still wondering why since his storylines tank....

I never really saw much of Heather Webber what I saw I can barely remember....but again its all about Jason so I guess I'll have to watch whenever I can because I'm just sick of Franco, Jason & his baby the whole thing. I'm sorry but GH is still just as Sonny/Jason centric under Carlivati as under Wolf & Guza nothing new here.

Again when will Elizabeth Webber get a promo? I thought since this is Steven Lars mother he would at least merit a promo apprearence but I guess not.

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Franco nonsense again? Sick Sick Sick

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@J Bernard Jones ...as much as I DONT want to agree with you, I see your point and have to concede to accepting where your coming from, because you are right. With GH having been such a convoluted mess for such a long time, I hope TPTB have the time to right the wrongs. For a show hanging on the edge of a cliff by its fingernails, I guess I was expecting a speedier transformation. I think thats my main rub, do we have the time to evolve GH at the current pace without further turning off viewers who walked away in part over this "Franco" mess?

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I agree wit JBernard, the Franco character and his story were kind of interesting until they beat it to death and Franco became more and more bizarre.

From my point of view I already hate the story because now we have to revisit the possible rape of Sam. Once the paternity results were read I was so happy to put Franco behind me, now this??? C/V please leave this story alone. Although I like the idea of bringing Steven Lars mother back, because I think that Robin take crazy to a totally different level, but Franco is just a mess, and a total waste of time.

On the other hand, this is what might drive the wedge between Sam and Jason, sincee Jason already has his head stuck up Sonnys' butt again. Why should anything pertining to his wife and child be of any interest to him. Enter sympathetic John McBain....... I don't really want Jasam to break up, but I do want Jason to finally stop cleaning up other peoples' messes and handle his own business for a change.

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J Bernard Jones wrote:
b) Carlivati is not just letting a sleeping dog lie. A two year build up deserves some sort of payoff, even at this late date. As is his want, Carlivati does try to tie things together and, as Franco is a still a relatively recent story, he is using it to tie in...you know...HISTORY: Susan Moore, the return of Heather Webber (Robin Mattson, already great in her so far brief return) and her connection to her onscreen son Steven and so on and so forth. He is also using this as a (presumable) way to thrust McBain & Sam further into each others' orbits, while pushing Jason toward the Quartermaines. So, it's easy simply to take the Franco story/reveal in isolation and hate it and not care about it for the James Franco/Jill Farren Phelps sins of the past alone, but Carlivati deserves some credit for using it to setup new story directions AND integrate history. While there always rolling choruses of "this could have done it better/differently/not at all," I commend Carlivati & Valentini for taking this lemon and attempting to make some lemonade.

Why can't sleeping dogs lie? Franco came around, he made stupid faces, he raped Sam. How is saying by the way, he's Jason's brother, going to make that story any better? Why does there need to be a reason? He was a lunatic - wasn't that enough reason? How does this integrate history, when the only tie to the past we will see is Heather for a short time? The only other history being affected is that of a woman who has been dead for 30 years.

There are no Quartermaines for Jason to be pushed towards (Tracy and Edward hate him and Monica already worships him), and if anything, this is one less reason for Sam to be close to John - the focus shouldn't be on her love life, or some guy who treats women like pathetic victims and can do little beyond stare at them with a sad face and purse his lips.

What is so fantastic about just using history for the sake of it? Guza had Rick Webber as a creep and had Laura murder him to usher her off the show - did that make her exit story any better? What about having Heather return and claiming she had loved Luke all along? Or that Holly and Luke had had sex while he was married to Laura and she was married to Robert? Or Paige Bowen selling one of her daughters? History, in all these cases, was misused, and a cheap stunt.

I certainly love the idea of history, but I like it when it actually has some sort of meaning. Not when it involves a sick story with a "star" who likely will never even be back on the show. Why not mine the history of someone like Monica, and use this to bring new characters onto the show? We know very little about her past. Or bring in the long forgotten oldest Spencer sibling.

"(BTW, I actually think Carlivati's reveal that Cutter & Kim were Alex Olanov's kids on OLTL was genius! Not only did it tie them to a beloved character and (in soap terms) gave their grifter/con artist leanings some historical weight, it should also be noted that — at the time — OLTL was still thought to be headed to the internet and Carlivati & Valentini were keeping various options open to them for actors/characters that could have made the jump. Making Cutter & Kim Alex's kids helped ground them to Llanview — and potentially many of its citizens — a little more if the show had gone online.)"

I don't understand how making them her children helped ground them. Alex had no meaningful ties to anyone on OLTL in the end, aside from a few Buchanans, who treated her like a nuisance. Kim already had enough to ground her - her relationship with Clint. I also didn't see the reason for lazy writing like they had to be con artists or schemers due to genetics. Sarah Roberts wasn't. Cassie Callison never was. I just thought it was lazy writing, a weak feint at history to try to ignore the historical blunders made on his watch (Dani being older than Jack, bringing back Rebecca as a lunatic for no apparent reason, etc.). The same seems to be happening at GH. Ron knows about the Floating Rib, but doesn't know Anna lost a baby on AMC, or that John McBain never mentioned a dead sister in all his time on OLTL.

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I was all set to hate on this too and then I read J. Bernard's post... schooled...

Anyway, I want Franco to have been so angry at Jason and the Q's for not acknowledging him or something so he tormented Jason for years and has been picking off various Q's and storing them in a basement somewhere, alive and hungry. They are all alive and bickering endlessly about the horrid accommodation and lack of alcoholic refreshments, just waiting for Anna to stumble across them and return them home.

One can dream, right??

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Im going to hold my tongue until it plays out. mipeony and sweetiepie as usual, I agree totally with what you said. JBernard I agree with a lot of what you said as well. That being said, before I praise or condemn this, I want to see it on my screen. I usually at this point say Im cautiously optimistic but honestly I actually think this is going to be a dud and they should have left well enough alone.

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so now we're back to Who's the Daddy with Sam's baby.

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At the very least, Franco's obsession makes a bit more sense and we got to see Heather. As long as Franco stays dead, I am okay with this plot.

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ooops.

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Why don't the viewers that don't like the characters just stop watching the show. If they like the show then shut up and watch it. FF through the stuff they don't like. Simple.

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Carol2, let me try to sum up a full response to your rebuttal in fairly succinct terms:

Carlivati (and Valentini) have a short period of time to do a whole lot of work and, I think a great many viewers agree, have improved GH tremendously since their arrival on the scene. By using the justifiably hated Franco arc to as a reconstituted thread, they are propelling several stories ahead at once, reintroducing several legacy characters at once, integrating long neglected/forgotten history and attempting to establish and re-establish existing ties on the canvas. Normally, accomplishing all of these agendas would take months, if not a couple of years to play out.

General Hospital does not have years to play out story.
It barely has months, if that, before its near & long term fate is decided.
And I honestly don't see any value in nitpicking over what should have been or might have been or was or wasn't at this stage of the game. I'm in vested in GH right now in front of me, not whatever GH (or OLTL) was in a rear view mirror.

I appreciate that Valentini & Carlivati are, as I said, taking the lemon that was Franco and attempting to stir up some Minute Maid.

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So James Franco's actual mother who played his mother is not his actual mother.

TPTB are not doing themselves any favors with this, it just makes them look like they've gone to the well one too many times.

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tamshanni - AMEN.

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I agree that RC and FV are trying their best to salvage GH, and I was a huge fan of their OLTL work, but GH is too damn dark (literally and figuratively). I'm sure that they're working on it as fast as they can, but it's a chore for me to watch and I am bowing out. I miss OLTL like crazy because, like the best of the soaps in the 80s, it had heart and it was funny as hell. Loved characters like Roxie, David Vickers, et al. Reminds me of how AMC was in the 80s with its great (and hilarious) supporting cast.

I wish the GH cast and crew the best of luck and I hope the devils at ABC keep it on the air, but I can't force myself to watch something hoping it will get better. Too busy these days and too many other entertaining choices at night (on DVR) to wade through the mess that TPTB (including that fucking hack Garin Wolf) left at GH. Ron C did a bang up job with Anna's return for Robin's "death," but overall it's just not fun. Thank god for the DC crew (and podcasts) or I would have dropped soaps altogether when OLTL was unceremoniously murked. Please keep the podcasts coming!

And J. Bernard, I miss hearing your "ass toot" (shoutout to PVP) commentary on the podcasts. A guest/return appearance would be mad cool.

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J Bernard Jones wrote:

Carlivati (and Valentini) have a short period of time to do a whole lot of work and, I think a great many viewers agree, have improved GH tremendously since their arrival on the scene. By using the justifiably hated Franco arc to as a reconstituted thread, they are propelling several stories ahead at once, reintroducing several legacy characters at once, integrating long neglected/forgotten history and attempting to establish and re-establish existing ties on the canvas. Normally, accomplishing all of these agendas would take months, if not a couple of years to play out. General Hospital does not have years to play out story.
It barely has months, if that, before its near & long term fate is decided.
And I honestly don't see any value in nitpicking over what should have been or might have been or was or wasn't at this stage of the game. I'm in vested in GH right now in front of me, not whatever GH (or OLTL) was in a rear view mirror.

I'm also vested in the GH in front of me. That's why I don't see the point of going back to a horrible story which has, aside from a brief return for Heather, very little which will impact the show's present state. Many fans were looking forward to a new start with GH. Instead, aside from some higher energy levels, it seems to be more of the same, possibly leading to the ratings drops each week.

I certainly do hope that GH stays on the air and has a great future, and that Ron and Frank accomplish this.