Ratings, Rants and Raves: As All Daytime Soaps Except General Hospital Rebound Significantly, Is it Time to Backburner Sonny and Co.?





Taking a page from dozens of their characters, three daytime soap operas returned gloriously from the dead, ratings-wise, the week of April 9-13 (Source: Soap Opera Network). CBS Daytime's The Young and The Restless, which hit a record low in households the previous ratings cycle, went up 349,000 total viewers and inched up two-tenths of a point in households the week in question. Y&R also went up two-tenths of a point in women 18-49 and one-tenth of a point among W18-34.

In story, Adam Newman (Michael Muhney) rescued Chelsea (Melissa Claire Egan) from the Genoa City Pond-O-Death and delivered the baby his estranged sister Victoria (Amelia Heinle) and her husband Billy (Billy Miller) so desperately wanted. Genevieve (Genie Francis) overheard Jack (Peter Bergman) detailing his plot to quickly marry and divorce her, after gaining control of Beauty of Nature, causing Jack to have to play the lying game with the fruit loop. Also that week, Sharon (Sharon Case) was generous enough to let Ash (Eileen Davidson) visit with Faith, the daughter the chemist once believed to be her own, courtesy of a swap-and-shop pulled by Adam.

Y&R just may have something with Adam and Chelsea. If done right, Victoria/Billy/Chelsea/Adam could turn out to be good soap. Unfortunately for Peter Bergman, nothing about his scenes with Genie Francis is good, especially when that awful, campy "Genevieve" music is playing. Both of these soap vets both deserve better. Y&R and Francis should cut their losses, freeing her up to go back to General Hospital.
 

 


The Bold and the Beautiful went up 167,000 total viewers and was up 286,000 year-to-date. B&B held steady in households, still up two-tenths of a point year-to-date in that demo as well. Among W18-49, B&B was up one-tenth of a point and up a whopping three-tenths of a point year-to-date! Among W18-34, the 30-minute Bell sudser held steady.

In storyline, a pair of Forrester heirs were competing over a blonde named Caroline Spencer. No, the Wayback Machine didn't take us back to 1987; I'm not referring to the Ridge/Caroline/Thorne storyline that helped launch B&B 25 years ago. I'm speaking of the brewing conflict betwwen Ridge's (Ron Moss) son Thomas (Adam Gregory) and Brooke's lad Rick (Jacob Young) over the late Caroline's (Joanna Johnson) niece, Caroline Jr. (Linsey Godfrey).

While Caroline 2.0 was having the kind of problem any girl would love, another California blonde wasn't having such a good time. Well, she was until her behind slipped and fell off that diving board, into a swimming pool, high as a Christmas rum cake! Yep, I'm talking about Hope Logan (Kimberly Matula). Brooke and the soon-to-be returning Deacon's (Sean Kanan) troubled, mess of a daughter had to come clean to Liam (Scott Clifton) about the drugs she's been taking, after her unintentional belly flop. B&B's frothy twentysomething dramas have been a nice appetizer this spring. I can't wait for Deacon to bring the main course this summer!

Like Y&R, NBC's Days of Our Lives also rebounded from record low ratings from the previous ratings cycle. DAYS went up 221,000 total viewers and was up 29,000 year-to-date. DAYS also climbed two-tenths of a point in households and was up one-tenth of a point year-to-date. Among W18-49 and W18-34, the almost 47-year-old sudser went up one-tenth of a point respectively.

Storywise, John (Drake Hogestyn) and Hope (Kristian Alfonso) returned to Salem, having finally opened Stefano's (Joe Mascolo) Cadbury Creme Egg. Kate (Lauren Koslow) suddenly became so insecure about Stefano's love for Marlena (Deidre Hall)—whom Stefano has only shared like three scenes with this past year—that she boinked Ian (Ian Buchanan). EJami decided it was best for their treehouse full of kids that they not bang each other's brains out anymore (It may be best for the kids, but certainly not for this viewer!). EJ also caught the worst ISA operative ever, Billie Reed (Lisa Rinna), snooping around at Casa DiMera. 

After Will (Chandler Massey) came out to Sonny (Freddie Smith), the boys embraced warmly. I can't be certain, but from the looks on their faces, their might have been wood. Last and most assuredly least, Carrie (Christie Clark) dissolved her partnership with Rafe (Galen Gering) and the poor actors continued to try their best to make anyone believe they could generate enough chemistry to make ice water.

ABC Daytime's General Hospital was the only soap opera not to go up in total viewers over the previous week; in fact the last place soap fell a slight 27,000 in total viewers. GH was down in the same category 320,000 year-to-date. In households, GH also came in last place, holding its numbers steady from the previous week. Among the W18-49 demo, GH went up one-tenth of a ratings point, which had it above a last place DAYS in Mad Ave's most coveted demo. Among W18-34, GH was tied with B&B for last place.

In story, the fabulous Heather Webber (Robin Mattson) was released into her son Steven Lars, er Steve's (Scott Reeves) custody, much to Olivia's (Lisa LoCicero) chagrin. It didn't take Kooky Heather long to a.) go after Luke (Anthony Geary) and b.) face off with her little cousin-in-law Sam (Kelly Monaco). I cannot even begin to describe how glad I am to see Mattson back on my screen. 

Wishful Storytelling: Olivia, Sam and Anna (Finola Hughes) bond over their Heather woes the same way Skye Chandler (then Carrie Genzel), Erica Kane (Susan Lucci) and Janet From Another Planet (also Mattson at the time) did over their mutual hate for Dr. Jonathan Kinder (Michael Sabatino) on All My Children!  

As for the other big story on GH, Sonny's (Maurice Benard) trial, I am beginning to see why fans are growing sick of this kind of scenario. I mean, Sonny does go on trial every year and is always acquitted. The only unique aspect to this latest courtroom caper has been cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs Connie (Kelly Sullivan) popping out and acting a fool. Although personally I am a card-carrying Sonny fan from way back, I'm also one who believes where there is rampant fan anger, there is sometimes fire.

On every blog, soap message board—heck even some bathroom walls—fans and critics alike are screaming about being tired of Sonny, Jason (Steve Burton) and Carly (Laura Wright) dominating this soap opera. While I firmly believe the dismal lead-in GH is receiving from The Revolution plays the most significant factor in the soap's ratings woes, I have to play devil's advocate on this one. Maybe it is time for the Holy Trinity to do their fair amount of time on the backburner? See you next Ratings!
 

 

42 Responses

  1. Profile photo of strato
    strato

    Why would we be interested in a trial when we ALL know Sonny is going to be declared non guilty? Even when he is guilty he never pays so it would have been fun karma but we akk knew he would walk free and go back to using Johnny as his scapegoat / punching ball…

    The poll that has been organized about the most boring couples was very telling. Beyond Lante winning by a landslide (but there is no sign after 3 years of lante being together and the Lulu character being totally ruined that CarTini are even considering one minute to break them up. How dumb when they could create a triangle with Johnny? Or is it that The-Son-Of-Sonny-Corinthos must also always win so Dante cannot face any kind of competition in case he could lose in the hearts of the fans? And I am not even a JoLu fan!!!!), the reactions of most of the posters saying that there is no couple to root for on GH right now scream where the problem is!

    I was expecting Ron and Frank to bring real changes, more balance, new stories and perspectives and what I read id SID is Frank saying that “they are going to rebuild Sonny’s world”??? Really? Sonny AGAIN? I don’t care about any world of Sonny being rebuilt. I want him in a coma for six months or sharing a jail cell with Anthony. But no more Corinthos dram wash-rinse-repeat. This has been killing GH slowly but surely…

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    soapjunkie88

    First of all, “GH” does not deserve these numbers. And while I also think “The Revolution” is playing a big part in “GH” being in last place, I believe that the soap opera needs to turn the craziness a little bit down.
    I saw it this week for the first time when they played Heather and Connie on the same day. Maybe this becomes a little bit too much as both characters go down a road where it only can get even more crazy. While I love them both, I think it would be good if Ron could work it and play both of these stories on different days.
    And yeah, I’d like to see Sonny, Jason and Carly on the backburner for a while. These show has such good characters so that these three really doesn’t need to dominate “GH”.
    I’d like to add that some viewers are saying that Ron Carlivati is rewriting his old “OLTL” storylines. If so he should stop with it.

    It’s still hard to me watching an entire episode of “Y&R”. Take the build up for Billy and Victoria’s party for Little Johnny for example. Victor isn’t even invited but then crashes the party of his adoptive grandson he isn’t even ready to accept as part of a family because of his hate for Billy. So he get’s there without even noticing Johnny to tell everyone about him getting Beauty of Nature back? While some would say typical Victor, I found it odd that he acted kind of clueless. This party might have been the perfect place to throw it in everyone’s face but Victor used to have so much more class about things like that.
    So besides the awful stories, the stories that kind of work for me seem to have MAJOR errors in character and in a really good build up.
    This show has so many problems that even with MAB fired it would take a hell of a lot work to turn this show around.

    When did B&B became the show with the most interesting younger set? LOL Even though I don’t warm up to Caroline 2.0 Brad Bell is doing some things right here …

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    The_Moustache

    It’s time to get rid of 100% of the Sonny/Jason/Carly/Mob characters.

    they are the reason the show has been down the drain/ratings for the past 20 years.

    if they refuse to play new characters, there are lots of other soaps that have openings.

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    GHteenybopper

    I honestly thought that GH was going to improve a lot more than it has when FV/RC had taken over. But all I’m seeing so far is a re-do of oltl stories, and even more Sonny and Jason. I was under the assumption from interviews that were given prior to RC taking over that Sonny was going to be on the backburner for a while…when exactly is this happening? I swear I’ve been seeing the same characters on everyday, and the characters they said would be getting more story and air time i.e Elizabeth, Patrick, Lulu, are on about once or twice a week compared to the holy trinity and their appendages being on every single day. That one week period when there was no Jasam and hardly any Connie/Kate and Sonny was heavenly. I know with soap operas, trying to please everyone is basically impossible, but if there’s an overwhelming cheer to cool it down with the Sonny and Kate/Connie, jasam and carly stuff, then maybe it’s time to shift the focus to other characters on canvas for once, at least you can write different stories. There is only so much you can write for the holy trinity and their appendages, as said before it’s the same recycled stories for Sonny and Jason, big trial, some mob war, someone kid gets hurt, and they come out on top, it’s tiresome now. What happend to bringing back the Q’s and focusing on the other characters?

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    stoney07

    Yeah, I don’t mind Genevieve….I hate the music…but I don’t mind the character. I like that the vets are actually in a good story (to me its good)…and I like that Y&R has gone a couple of months now without a psycho!!! Well, sure there are psychos, but not murderous ones right now. I like that the show is kind of taking the time to have meaningful conversations again…I’mma keep saying it, I like that it’s been a couple of months and Sharon’s legs are still closed. I like that there is an actual business storyline and the characters are actually going back to work. I love NIkki and Jack. I like that Villy named the baby John.

    I still despise Daisy. I don’t mind the character anymore, but the actress is just THEE WORST. If there was someone else playing her, I’d probably actually enjoy the story. I still don’t really get Ricky…idk where he’s at mentally. PHyllis and Avery’s story still bores me even tho they have moved away from that…I mean, I don’t see the point of Avery unless she’s gonna sleep with Michael, which I can totally kind of see coming :(

    Where the hell is Sarge? Paul? Lauren?

    As for GH: I’ve tried over and over and over, and I Just don’t love the show. I don’t know what it is. I like it a lot better than I liked OLTL (don’t kill me), but it’s just hard to get into it. I honestly think that ABC soaps are on a different wavelength than what I’m used to. I could tolerate ALl My Children, One Life to Live was just unbearable to me (even at the end when everyone thought it was the second coming of Jesus), and GH has always been just BLAH.

    As for B&B: I’m bored. I’m tired of Hopeless, I’m tired of Liam…I’m tired of Steffy running after Liam. I’m tired of Caroline ALREADY. Rick doesn’t do it for me anymore. They done turned Amber into a drug pusher. Brooke has become Stephanie, OVERNIGHT. Ridge still wears scarves. Thorne, Taylor, Felicia, Stephanie, Eric, and all the other interesting characters are MIA. Texas Battle still can’t act, Dayzee is beautiful (to me), Pam and Donna are a waste…kind of a chuckle here and there, but still a waste…and YET with all of that being said, I CANNOT WAIT FOR DEACON SHARPE TO ARRIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Days: *Dionne Warwick at Whitney’s funeral voice* WHO?

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    SwanQueen59

    I detest the fact that the mob element and the character of the bully Corinthos (with a bit of help from the characters of Carly and Jason) has plummeted the show down to where there is seemingly little that is “light filled” or hopeful to latch on to. While I don’t blame the actors (MB, LW, SBu), per se, I really wonder if their being featured so often isn’t written into the guarantees as they relate to their contracts. I am also curious are they themselves aware of how much discord and unhappiness their near constant dominance in story has caused and continues to cause for fans who want to see others who have been on canvas as long or almost as long? Case in point where is Elizabeth Webber (RH).? While many know I don’t share the view that D&L are a boring couple (That’s just me! ;) ) I agree with strato (and have posted as much), that I am not interested in the bully’s world or character being rebuilt. He is beyond redemption. There is nothing charming, debonaire, or suave. There is nothing in the character that suggests kindness, compassion, integrity, or dignity as it relates to family or associate characters. Sorry for the rant. I continue to watch GH to support the other characters/actors for what they bring to my screen on a daily basis. If the script reference from FH’s Anna about McBain’s Federal Investigative Allowance being 60 days to put the bully in jail were an actual fact (and the character written out), I’d be popping the cork on a bottle of champagne… 0:)

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    soapbaby

    “After Will (Chandler Massey) came out to Sonny (Freddie Smith), the boys embraced warmly. I can’t be certain, but from the looks on their faces, their might have been wood.”

    ^^That’s the last time I read RRR while sipping coffee! Jamey, you turned a sweet, quiet moment into something sordid…and your humor keeps me coming back for more!

    DAYS: I agree with everyone else that Will’s storyline is the only one that works. I thought the Will/Sonny attraction was sudden but the characters/actors are likeable enough to make it work. Also, I like Kate and Ian. Everything else on the show fails.

    GH: The show has been boring and predictable with lots of bad performances. The show is not behaving as if it’s in a fight to survive. A missed opportunity: Connie should have emerged on the witness stand to liven up Sonny’s trial.

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    TC irene

    How do you make Sonny lovers and haters both happy in one fell swoop ?

    Wishful Storytelling:Let new (and vastly improved) Krazy Kate bash Sonny in his head and lock his claustrophoic ass in a closet for about a month !!! Ala Misery.

    Sonny haters get to see Sonny freaked out,locked up and humbled and backburnered for awhile with no love from the Borg who has his own problems keeping his wife away from McBain and hoping that Franco’s kid ain’t missing the genetic code for sanity. Just for good measure let Starr be the one to find him ala OLTL favorite story “Man on a Wheel”…LOL Now let the games begin…should she tell somebody where Sonny is ? Or sing to him and feed him a rat now and again so he doesn’t starve to death…Decisions Decisions….

    P.S.Jamey about Will/Sonny’s man hug….I know heard Woody Woodpecker tuning up.

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    stefanstavros

    OK I have thought that the three musketeers have monopolized the show WAY TOO LONG like most others. I remember back to when I first started hating the changes in GH when almost EVERY day we saw Sonny, Carly, Jason and Courtney. Remember that? It was like the only sets used were Sonny’s and Jason’s penthouses and these four characters running back and forth across the hall to each others pads…And oh how I despised Courtney! If ever there was a plot-driven unnecessary forced character it was Courtney.
    Here’s the low-down, plain and simple: 1)the ONLY thing to do with Jason is to re-Quartermaine him! How many long years have we had to look at this one-dimensional stone-faced robot in a motorcycle jacket! Come on!
    2) Sonny needs to undergo a MAJOR shift also…something needs to turn his reality upside down to make him softer or more compassionate or something..I think crazy Connie should shoot him and then he be either in a coma or in a wheelchair.
    3) Carly (I know people will scream at me) needs to be recasted either with Tamara Braun or Sarah Brown. I just have never warmed up to Laura Wright in the role.

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    soapbaby

    @stefanstavros: I agree, only, I think Laura Wright is good and the writing for Carly hasn’t matured. GH is still the same with frontburnering Sonny, Carly, Jason and Sam (in place of Courtney.) I know a lot of people complained about Courtney but she was more interesting than Sam McCall has ever been. Courtney was ruined when paired with Jason. Alicia Leigh Willis is a strong actress.

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    p3wong

    I totally agree – that the Holy Trinity must go – and I don’t even mean that they should be written out – just a different beat. It’s so way too many repeats, over and over. I’m still holding out for Jason to go under for his umpteeth surgery, and come back a Quartermaine!

    And there was no reason not to show Patrick wallowing in his sorrows WAY before yesterday! – I lost count.. and maybe Jason Thompson was on vacay – but no reason why the Epiphany/Patrick scene couldn’t be shown in between the Sonny drama – I would have been more inclined to stay tuned – it’s certainly more interesting that Star and Michael at his apartment!

    Unfortunately, I’m not surprised that ratings have been down for GH – hope they are able to get out of it –

    Oh! and did y’all see Antonio Sabato Jr tweeting about Jagger being ready to come home – he’s a cop as well, no? How about bringing him on to team up with McBain to take this mob down! (since Dante is now useless)

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    mipeony

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again… let Sonny go off to prison where he belongs, let Jason follow him in to “protect” him, and have Carly move into the conjucial (sorry about the spelling) visit room at the prison. Let Sam and Liz and all the other residents of PC move on without them for a good long time, and when/if the Unholy trinity come back, let them realize how much better off all those people were without them!

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    Carol2

    I don’t think making Jason go back to his old self would matter. The Quartermaines are all gone. Jason would just spend even more time looking depressed and constipated.

    The biggest problem with GH, besides Sonny/Carly/Jason, is there are no storylines. Connie repeats the same scenes again and again. The only interest anyone seems to have in this story is when Connie is going to once again squawk and do her Joan Rivers and ham it up. No one really cares about how this will affect Sonny, because nothing ever affects Sonny. So once people are done enjoying the freak show, what’s left?

    Sam’s story amounts to day after day of agonizing over her rape, agonizing over lying to Jason, agonizing over Heather taunting her, and agonizing over why she has to whispertalk “How do I know you? I feel like I know you?” with McPoutWhisper every time they meet. This isn’t a story. It’s just stalling for 9 months, or even longer, if that lousy Natalie baby story on OLTL is what RC is using as a blueprint.

    There’s no sense of community or coherency. Anna ignores her granddaughter to spend time coddling men she barely knew until bad history rewrites.

    Stories just drag on, and on, for no apparent reason, like Lisa’s murder or the stripper murders. I know that someone will say this is incredible because the show is tying up loose ends, or whatever, but it just feels to me like they dredged these up for busy work, to fill more time.

    It’s become more blatant than ever that the sole reason they killed Starr’s daughter was to have Michael make cow eyes at her and so Sonny can have yet another fake crisis. Starr herself is meaningless, as is her loss. Is that really the best way to get a couple together? Was that the only idea they could think of? I’d hate to think of the ideas they rejected.

    GH is a show about nothing. People may yell, or hold their breath until they turn blue, or jump up and down, but there’s nothing going on underneath the noise.

    As for B&B, Steffy’s part in this story is very poorly written and awkward. She’s supposed to be this great presence yet they have her showing up in scenes going “cha cha cha” like she’s possessed by Sam Cooke. The “triangle” is a flop because there are no rooting couples and Bill is too suffocating – it becomes about why does Bill Spencer treat women like whores? The best part of this is Hope’s problems and Amber’s scheming. That part works.

    I don’t dislike Caroline but she has little to no chemistry with Rick or Thomas.

    I say either pair Thomas and Dayzee or write him out.

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    sweetiepie

    I have long said that the show would benefit if Sonny were backburnered in a big way. At one point, several weeks ago(it seems like forever) Sonny was limited to a few scenes a week. (This was about the time that Jason was having his headaches and was paying more attention to his wife than his…….co-conspirator, Sonny). The show would definately benefit from a turnaround that would shift the main characters. There aed other people in PC far more interesting than Sonny, Carly Jason and Sam. That being said, Lulu and DAnte are not two of them.

    I would love to see Liz get a man of her own. I would love to see Sam give Jason the finger when he can’t commit to her baby, and leave him. I would love for Lucky to come back, same with Ned and Lois. How about Jax coming back after being in the background just long enough to manuever Sonnys downfall(possibley with help from Johnny)

    We don’t need Characters from another soap to take up residence at GH. OLTL poping up on a recurring basis as needed, fine, but they need not make PC home.

    I am keeping an open mind, things have improved, even if everything is not to our liking. I want to see how sweeps is handled, then I feel like I will be in a better position to judge.

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    ldylkng

    [quote=stoney07]Yeah, I don’t mind Genevieve….I hate the music…but I don’t mind the character. I like that the vets are actually in a good story (to me its good)…and I like that Y&R has gone a couple of months now without a psycho!!! Well, sure there are psychos, but not murderous ones right now. I like that the show is kind of taking the time to have meaningful conversations again…I’mma keep saying it, I like that it’s been a couple of months and Sharon’s legs are still closed. I like that there is an actual business storyline and the characters are actually going back to work. I love NIkki and Jack. I like that Villy named the baby John.

    I still despise Daisy. I don’t mind the character anymore, but the actress is just THEE WORST. If there was someone else playing her, I’d probably actually enjoy the story. I still don’t really get Ricky…idk where he’s at mentally. PHyllis and Avery’s story still bores me even tho they have moved away from that…I mean, I don’t see the point of Avery unless she’s gonna sleep with Michael, which I can totally kind of see coming :(

    Where the hell is Sarge? Paul? Lauren?

    As for GH: I’ve tried over and over and over, and I Just don’t love the show. I don’t know what it is. I like it a lot better than I liked OLTL (don’t kill me), but it’s just hard to get into it. I honestly think that ABC soaps are on a different wavelength than what I’m used to. I could tolerate ALl My Children, One Life to Live was just unbearable to me (even at the end when everyone thought it was the second coming of Jesus), and GH has always been just BLAH.

    As for B&B: I’m bored. I’m tired of Hopeless, I’m tired of Liam…I’m tired of Steffy running after Liam. I’m tired of Caroline ALREADY. Rick doesn’t do it for me anymore. They done turned Amber into a drug pusher. Brooke has become Stephanie, OVERNIGHT. Ridge still wears scarves. Thorne, Taylor, Felicia, Stephanie, Eric, and all the other interesting characters are MIA. Texas Battle still can’t act, Dayzee is beautiful (to me), Pam and Donna are a waste…kind of a chuckle here and there, but still a waste…and YET with all of that being said, I CANNOT WAIT FOR DEACON SHARPE TO ARRIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Days: *Dionne Warwick at Whitney’s funeral voice* WHO?[/quote]

    Thanks Stoney & Amen to all!

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    JasamForever

    I am not suprised GH is declining. I don’t see all the majic of RC and FV, that others have gone on and on about. GH storylines are awful. I would like to see Sonny, Jason, Connie/Kate, and Carly backburned. Let’s focus on other characters. It was terrible that we just saw Patrick yesterday. It does not take anything to show him grieving. He does not even have to be in a scene with anyone. Do TPTB not care how soap fans feel? These OLTL characters besides McBain should not even have come to GH. Starr’s demo tape was awful. I am sorry but the girl can’t sing. Like someone else said, just bring back the vets like Ric, Ned and Louis, Nikolas, Lucy Coe, Alcazer (if you must have someone from OLTL), and others. Then get rid of a bloated cast, half which is not needed.

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    ldylkng

    Why in the world does one character have to send both her children off to boarding schools because of 2 crazy women? Poor Lauren! First Scotty, Now Fen.
    Why couldn’t it have been another character this time?

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    alstonboy4315

    GH’s decline doesn’t surprise me either. Between Starr’s whining and Kate/Connie chewing up the show 12 days a week, they are barely focusing on what really makes the show pop! Where are the Quartermaines? Where is BOBBIE SPENCER? We can’t blame Guza and Phelps anymore for her absence! And where is Helena Cassadine?

    Furthermore, why go through all this trouble to make Franco and Jason brothers unless they are gonna bring Franco back from the dead?

    Other than these issues, the show is more character-driven and I am enjoying the returns of Heather and Anna. And where the hell is Patrick? Did he just fall off the face of the planet?

    They need to get rid of Kate…..and Starr! Bring Hope and Cole back from the dead!!! BTW: What was the point of killing them off for a 2 second showdown between Sonny and Todd and now the story has lost ALL its steam! And Starr has NO chemistry with Michael. And KA left her acting chops back in Llanview, clearly! What’s the point of rewarding her lackluster acting with a contract?

    Since Tea is THANKFULLY coming on, put Sonny with Tea, or do a Tea/Johnny/Carly triangle. Or a Luke/Tea/Anna triangle??

    And NO more DID stories. This is NOT OLTL!! Ron C, I know you have creativity, so this is the PERFECT time for it to kick in!!

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    david46208

    @Everyone: The reason why writers like Lorraine Boderick and Sally Sussman Morina worked is because when they came to a soap they got in and understood the history of the soap they were writing for and wrote from that history to provide character-driven stories. They also knew how to work with what they had and make it enjoyable.

    When it comes to Agnes until she told us no one would have ever known that Rachel Cory (Another World) and Dorian Lord (One Life To Live) were based off her template for Erica Kane.

    Now see that is what good writing is. It is not repackaging your stories from other soaps on the one you are currently writing for or revisiting the same old love triangles, squares and octagon’s that have been played out over the last 3 decades.

    When it comes to GH they can bring on Erika Slezak and it ain’t gonna change the ratings. GH fans want GH 2.0 they want more of the GH they knew before Sonny came on the scene literally stole the show. Instead they have gotten GH 1.32.

    I know Rome wasn’t build in a day but the 5 weeks Lorraine acted as the transition head writer on AMC made us wonder then why they didn’t just give her the damn job.

    Ron might have done well on OLTL. But he has a long ways to go before he can become a “master” of the soap universe.

    I HAVE THE POWERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

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    EricasEvilTwin

    TC Irene I think thats a great idea! I think the biggest problem with sonny – other than the over use of the character – is that they keep telling us that he has a heart of gold – we never see him pay (not even all that much through karma because even when hes made to pay karmically like say his son going in to a coma, we see sonny grieving and jason vowing revenge and both having these over the top emotional reactions while sonny just buries himself in the woman du jour which hardly makes it seem like hes suffering.) If they want people to love sonny again, locking him up and having him go through torture or showing us some sacrifice on his part coupled with far less air time for awhile would I think go along way. Stefan your idea about him being in a wheelchair would be good too.

    As for vets not being on – I think someone said yesterday that some of the patrick story was reworked because ron convinced kim m to come back for a bit more story. if thats the case, and thats why patrick and liz and maxie and mac arent on the way they should be, I have to give cartini a short term pass. lets see if this problem corrects itself before we jump on them.

    I also agree with stefan about LW. Im sorry but while I love LW and I think shes uber talented, she isnt carly and for whatever reason she has zero chemistry with most of the leading men where tb and sjb had chemistry with nearly everyone – thats why carly was played so much because it didnt matter where she was on the canvas, both worked no matter the pairing. I bought carly just as much flirting with ric (before we found out he was sonnys brother) or partnering with jax as I did seeing her hit the sheets with jason or zander or alcazar. Where LW’s carly feels like shes cradle robbing with johnny, I bet bringing back tb in that role would give you the makings of a supercouple. bring back sarah in the role and suddenly jason crying on carlys shoulder because sam’s baby isnt his takes on a TOTALLY different (and potentially combustible) element.

    And for the love of god, stop with the repetitive scenes and the oltl rip off story lines.

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    modmaja

    I agree with everyone–Sony/Jason/Carly have eaten the show too long and have had basically the same scenes/scenarios over and over again. It might have sucked me in at the beginning, but it got old a long time ago.

    As for the state of GH, I think in general things have definitely improved as it had really become unwatchable. I find each episode is generally more enjoyable than it had been in a long time. While I think the Robin aftermath became must-see tv for me, there isn’t a current through-line or long story that really has me on the edge of my seat, and I do wonder if they were waiting to see if the show would be cancelled in September before implementing something bigger, as tying up a 49 year old show would likely take a bit of a different direction. I’m still hopeful that the show is on the rise–if it doesn’t happen ratings wise, at least there is potential for it to happen creatively. I don’t love everything going on by any means, but I like more things than not–and on some of the other soaps right now there is only 1 storyline at most on each that has me even remotely interested.

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    ihavewatched4ever

    There is no story left for Sonny and Carly and unless Ron is brave enough to bring back Jason Quartermaine, there’s really nothing left for him either.
    This is no lie, I have watched General Hospital since it was in black and white and just about the entire action centered around Lucille nagging Jessie while they stood around that nurses’ station (I was four), but the only reason I started watching regularly again is because I am hoping that Ron and Frank can transform this soap back to something approaching its past quality.

    They are making some progress, but really, this is the most boring, humorless show in daytime. I think all three actors are fine, but the characters of Sonny, Carly and Jason are one dimensional. In Jason’s case, it’s supposed to be a side effect of his brain damage, but seriously, Carly and Sonny never grow and progress as people or as a couple, the outcomes of their stories are totally predictable, they are humorless and unredeemable. And we have watched them front burner for what seems like forever. So either do somthing to completely shake up their world or take them off the screen. This is supposed to be entertainment, not talk therapy for narcissistic Mobsters and Mafia Wives.

    So, here’s my wish list –

    Anna, Mac and John team up to put Sonny away for good–they are successful, but when they arrest him, Kate/Connie is killed and Jason Morgan is hurt and awakens from a coma as Jason Quartermaine–he needs Elizabeth’s help putting the pieces back together again and dealing with his guilt. He wants nothing to do with either Carly or Sam.
    Sam is torn between her anger at John and her growing attraction to him.
    Carly leaves town.

    Dante quits the force and joins Spinelli and Lulu in the PI firm.
    Ned comes back to PC, sparks fly between him and Alexis

    Anna & Mac get together, but Tracey and Heather continue to think that there’s something between her and Luke (Tony Geary finally skips one of his lengthy vacations in order to develop an actual story line for Luke, instead of just a “situation”) causing humorous and possibly deadly hijinks to ensue.

    I loved OLTL but even I am not sure if/how/whether the OLTL characters other than John should be integrated right now.

    Definitely more air time for Alice and the supporting characters.

    And if someone could remember that the show is called General Hospital that might be nice, too.

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    stefanstavros

    I also agree with stefan about LW. Im sorry but while I love LW and I think shes uber talented, she isnt carly and for whatever reason she has zero chemistry with most of the leading men where tb and sjb had chemistry with nearly everyone – thats why carly was played so much because it didnt matter where she was on the canvas, both worked no matter the pairing. I bought carly just as much flirting with ric (before we found out he was sonnys brother) or partnering with jax as I did seeing her hit the sheets with jason or zander or alcazar. Where LW’s carly feels like shes cradle robbing with johnny, I bet bringing back tb in that role would give you the makings of a supercouple. bring back sarah in the role and suddenly jason crying on carlys shoulder because sam’s baby isnt his takes on a TOTALLY different (and potentially combustible) element.

    After reading your comment above I started thinking about it more and you know what? I think I figured out why LW lacks chemistry and why I don’t like her as Carly. She’s too masculine. Now I’m not saying she’s butch or anything like that! It’s the energy she puts out combined with her physical appearance…It doesn’t complement hardly any leading man on canvas. I know Carly is supposed to be tough and rebellious…but this can be achieved while still giving her a feminine edge….

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    GHFan76

    I believe GH’s ratings woes are primarily due to the Revolution tinkering around only a million viewers. I think if GH had OLTL as a lead-in with the way it’s being written now that it might be giving B&B a run for its money. That being said, GH is hardly perfected. They cannot become complacent especially with ABC testing GMA. If the root cause of the ratings issue (it’s not ALL lead-in if a show is written well) isn’t clearly determined ABC will opt for GMA if it does well.

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    ILoveKarenWolek

    Why is it we rejoice or get worried over two tenths of a ratings point?! People, these are desperate times. These shows need to add about one million viewers to them, each. And even then they want be completely safe. At the moment, the ratings for all 4 remaining shows are yo-yo-ing all over the place. And that’s not good. Advertisers want stability. That’s one things soaps use to be able to provide–a guaranteed audience that came back day after day and week after week. What is going on at the moment is chaos.

    Poor story development at all the shows is probably the number one reason for said chaos. With GH, Frank & Ron inherited a hot mess. I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt at the moment since we don’t fully know which of these storylines actually belong to Ron and which ones he inherited and had to live with or make the most out of for the time being. Days is in sad shape (minus the wonderful story involving Will). Unfortunately, we’re going to have to wait until August to see any improvements! That’s a mistake. Whatever money they’re saving by taping so far in advance can’t be worth having to wait all these months to correct storyline problems. I think Days needs to take a page out of the Glory Monty guidebook for How to Save a Soap and trash many of these scripts and even some of the shows that have already been taped. Days cannot afford to wait until August to see a better show unfold.

    As for Y&R, we all just need to pray for a gift from baby Jesus because this is a heaping pile! Y&R is very bad. What confuses me in all this is Sony. Would someone please explain to me who has control of their shows? Is it the networks (NBC and CBS) that are providing direction? Is it Sony? The Corday and Bell families? Is it a combination? I just don’t understand how Days has now gone through multiple re-boots over the last three years and yet Y&R continues to be helmed by the 3 Stooges. Y&R should be going through a massive cast overhaul just like Days. While Y&R has always had a larger cast than most other shows–this is not the time to continue that thinking. Streamline your show. Get your act together. Tell compelling stories for your core characters with some new faces thrown in to keep those characters fresh and exciting.

    And I’ve read a few posts stating that some of you like Genie Francis in this role horrible role on Y&R. You’re entitled to your opinion, but I will tell you that you’re wrong! She’s horrible. I LOVE Genie Francis. Huge fan from way back when. I have followed her from GH to Bare Essence to Murder She Wrote to Hotel to North and South to Days to AMC and back to GH. I adore her, but not in this role. It is without a doubt the worst part ever written for her and the worst interpretation she has brought to tv. With all that said, I think the reason Y&R hasn’t cut her lose yet is because they (and CBS) don’t want her reprising her legendary role on GH. I’m not even sure GH has room for her at the moment–I mean Luke is already involved with Tracy and Anna, then he would add Laura to that group?! But, I do think that Sony (which distributes both Y&R and Days) could work out an arrangement to have Genie transferred over to Days. It’s not ideal –I want to see her as Laura just like most anyone else–but I don’t think her returning to GH is going to happen. However, I can see the second alternative working out and it’s an option I could live with–seeing Genie play Diana on Days once again. And while they’re at it, Sony needs to send Stephen Nichols back to Salem as well. Kayla is fast becoming a prop in the Brady Pub!

    This is no time to be playing writers/producers/studio & network chiefs–get your act together and for once be worthy of that over-inflated paycheck you receive. Sit down, look at your respective show, develop good stories and then let that story dictate which characters should be cut. Linda Dano said it best in an interview, “…with daytime soaps, it’s all about the story.” It’s about time that TPTB caught on to that…and then the ratings would take care of themselves.

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    gato1

    I feel compelled to say that I have NEVER watched GH. I checked out a few shows because of the OLTL transplants and Robin Mattson. Trying to get into it.BUT I have been a faithful reader of DC for many years and I read ALOT that Sonny/Jason/carly are SO tiresome. I am actually impressed with the loyalty of the viewers of this show because it seems to come up ALOT about the dislike of those 3 charchters. So, I actally very seriously am interested in what the readers/viewers of this site Do enjoy about GH. I only ask because because I want to watch this show; it is the only current soap that I have never watched.
    After reading DC for years (but not watching the show) this is what I know about General Hospital=
    * The Quartermaines WERE awesome, they are all gone
    * Most stories revolve around Sonny/The mob
    * Half the commenters want Jason with Liz(?) or with Sam (?)
    * Carly is a recast/ most regard her as a “harpy shrew”
    * They are alot of “legacy” (hate that term) Characters who are missed/not used at all
    * Luke (of the famous L & L) is a shell of himself
    * James Franco shows up/everyone seems to hate it
    * Alot of comments concern Jason being part of a family that is not seen
    * “Legacy” character Robin “died”, no one likes that
    * Loved Shawn Cook on DAYS but apparently he is a glorified extra
    * Ditto Nancy Grahn from Santa Barbara
    * Robin Mattson started on the show in the 80s/ just came back/ most commenters seem to think she is too “cartoonish”
    * There was some scandal when a popular young heroine was axed, but is apparently been recasted
    * When I did turn in I couldnt tell the difference between 2 different blondes, one was Sonnys wife (?)/ The other was taking the blame for Robins death/ thought they were the same person for awhile
    *Loved OLTL, the story with Starr is the ultimate downer—Who wants to think that Hope is dead?
    *Love Tea from OLTL, and I hear she is coming to the show, thats why I am curious about what is going on here
    Thanks in advance for anyone who can help me make sense of any of this!

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    GaryJr

    I COULDN’T AGREE MORE…I’m surprised Days went up. Other than Will/Sonny–the entire week was a complete bore. Completely off topic but what happened to Friday cliffhangers? Santa Barbara ended almost every show with a cliffhanger in it’s hey-day. Why can’t Days muster one lousy cliffhanger a week?! I find myself fast forwarding through just about everything that doesn’t involved Will/Sonny/Marlena or Sami/EJ. And while I used to enjoy Stefano’s antics–I realized something this week: he’s only fun when he’s going after Marlena–not F’ing with John. I was never invested in the John/Stefano rivalry. I was always interested in Marlena’s part in that story. Why not put John in a coma and off camera and send Marlena after Stefano? Dee & Joe need more scenes together. Drake & Joe need less screen time together–their back and forth is so STALE! Also, give us more of EJ & Will’s friendship/working-relationship/crush. It be nuts for Sami to realize he’s crushing on her secret crush/downfall. I find myself CLINGING to just about anything NEW & INTERESTING the show tries to do. Will/EJ’s friendship, Will/Marlena’s relationship, Will/Sonny’s friendship…almost every other story is pretty much the same story they’ve been telling for 20 years. SHAKE THINGS UP…because what we have now isn’t working. If you want to play it safe…at least shake up the friendships…I feel like we always see the same 2 people in each story confiding in each other. Strike up a friendship with Billie/Jack, Ian/Marlena, Will/EJ, Sami/Sonny — I could go on all day. The show is SO stale. How many more cliches of “hunky guy fixing girl’s sink only to have it spray water everywhere so he has to take his shirt off” scenes do we have to suffer through? Take some chances!

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    jen9856

    I agree with the above posts that Carly needs to be re-casted. I think it would go a long way in helping to revive the show, as Carly is one of the main characters. When Tamara Braun was on, that was the last time I really enjoyed GH consistently. She was a great actress and did have chemistry with just about everyone. Sarah Brown was also excellent in the role and would bring a new energy to the show.

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    GG78

    Maurice Benard is a great actor, but I hate Sonny Corinthos. He gets away with everything. He’s an ego maniac and the ENTIRE show is about him. I FF through most of the scenes he’s in. Enough Sonny & the mob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make Jason a Q again, and take the focus off of the mob/Sonny. I am tired of watching the same BS with Sonny all the time.

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    GHfan-4now

    I was a HUGE OLTL fan. Told people to give this regime a chance and even pimped the show on twitter like a sheep. But as I see it, there is nothing on GH I find entertaining, except Connie and considering she’s nothing but a Tess redux to the 10th degree, that’s saying a lot. Jason and Sam are still depressing, and it’s even worse because Sam’s rape is all about Jason, AGAIN, just like Jake dying and Robin dying was all about him, and what he thought, and how he felt, and how he was betrayed, and so on and so forth. And Sam had to beg the man for a damn hug. I turned off the TV and walked out of the house on that one. And come this summer, we’re getting Two Todd’s crap in Port Charles (FL signing on just proved to me that Ron is going to get this story told, even in another town, if it kills us no matter what he has said about it). I’m over and done with them. I put up with a lot of their crap on OLTL and excused it countless times and even argued with fellow posters because I enjoyed more than I hated. I won’t do it now because there is so little I enjoy, and I don’t see that changing anytime soon.

    As far as Carly, yes, Tamara was the only Carly who made me fall in love with the character. I loved OG SJB, but she was a love to hate Carly. Tams was one I loved, and LW’s Carly is one I just hate all around. Not the actress, mind you, but the character.

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    marybee50

    GHfan-4now,I hope GH turns around for you,because I hate to think of any fan losing their love of their show.I want GH to succeed for its fans,but this is ABC.I cannot forgive them for the way they treated AMC & OLTL fans.I have not watched ABC since OLTL went off the air(except for a rare basketball game,because after soaps,I love sports)At first,I thought I might like to see OLTL on GH,but,I really was pleased for the most part by the way it ended.Now,Cartini are about to change even some of my happy endings,and I can’t stand that.

    I watch Days,and I know that show will probably be next to go.I hope NBC treats fans better,and atleast bring Will’s story front burner.Days is not as good as it could be,but it is not ABC so I watch.The same with Y&R.Friday’s episode was just terrible,and I have no hope of it getting better.So,I watch but not with my full attention.B&B,same thing.

    I don’t want to give up on these shows,but TPTB are making it so hard to support these shows.Right now,Days is the one for me.Y&R,B&B tolerable.But,I cannot watch ABC.

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    nyquil11

    I hope they do bring Victor on with Todd, I think us OLTL fans got totally jipped out of that storyline. I am praying literally that they bring Victor on. GH is too dark and boring, the Lord twins can bring some comedy on there. I think that is what is missing on GH, there are nooo bright spots what so ever. Kids die on this show on a regular basis, remember when they had wrote that Michael killed AJ?!?! That was the worst. They need to take Kate and Ewen off, they are boring, Kate is awful. They ruined her character, Olivia and Steve are boring. I like this Carly she is the best one to me, Tamara Braun was a nightmare and a thug. This Carly is a lot better, and I was really liking her and Johnny and they ruined that. Dante is boring too, glad John Mcbain is on there, and they need to let him and Sam get together ASAP, because I don’t know how much more Sad Sam and Jason scenes with her heavy breathing I can take!! And this Sonny obsession GH has has gone on way too long. They will regret it once the show gets canceled.
    Make jason a quartemaine again and reduce the mob and murder. I mean it’s a soap about a doggone hospital, ER wasn’t about the mob, it was about the doctors. Change it up already!!

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    LuluFF

    Here is what GH needs to do to get ratings up,FIRE Maurice Benard!FIRE Steve Burton,FIRE Laura Wright and FIRE Kristen Alderson.They are what makes the show UNWATCHABLE.I agree with everyone who says Carly needs to be recast.LW is a AWFUL actress and is what makes Carly BORING.She is too old to be doing love scenes with BB and makes Carly & Johnny BORING to watch.They also need to reconnect Lulu & Johnny and put them back together as a couple or at least do a REAL triangle with Jolu/Lante.I also think they should make M.E (McBain)& B.B (Johnny) both the male leads on the show.They should put Johnny in prison to redeem him and let Lulu be the one to help him.I would much rather see Lulu in scenes with Johnny then Carly because A) it makes more sense and B) JMB is 100000 times better at acting and has ALOT more chemistry with B.B then LW.
    They also need to make F.H (Anna) and JMB (Lulu) the 2 female leads on the show with KeMO (Sam) and RH ( Liz) too.Because all of those characters are more interesting and more important to GH then Carly,Connie/Kate and the AWFUL STARR will ever be.Plus i would also BEG T.R (Robert) & JW ( Frisco) to come back and offer them whatever they want to make it happen.

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    Carol2

    Carly doesn’t need to be recast, she needs to be written out. I see nothing left for the character. She, Jason, and Sonny have no stories left to tell.

    Beyond that, I would take away all her money, which seems like something the show will never do.

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    Marland Fan

    Sonny’s most recent trial was a joke. Aside from it being the most flimsy case in the history of soaps, did anyone REALLY think Sonny would be convicted? There are no stakes for this character. Everyone knows nothing will happen to him, so why even bother putting in any jeopardy, legal or otherwise.

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    jphelps

    I have to say I am shocked finally at the realization that those 3 airhogs are finally acknowledged as burnt out. Think about this. GH has had the best teen scenes for years. The 90s had Robin, Jason, AJ, Karen, Jagger Brenda then lucky, Emily, Liz, nikolas, Gia, Zander then lulu, Maxie, Georgie, sage, dillon, Lucas, diego. Now tell me how many of these characters remain to lead this show. Jason. Liz Maxie Lulu. That is criminal considering we had characters that we’re Webbers, Scorpios, Jones, Quartermaines, Spencers that should have been the building blocks for this show and what do we get. 2 decades of Jason, Carly, and Sonny as leads. Not even Luke or Robert spent that many years on the front burner. Why are they burnt out? Non stop Frontburner stories. I think Carlivati is unoriginal but I won’t blame him for GH. That’s all on Jill Phelps and Bob Guza. He’s just done nothing to change it and won’t. GH is a dead show walking.

    I don’t know what to say about Y&R. They have a few promising things happening. I’m enjoying Avery, Michael, Lauren and yes the story with Daniel. And yes I hate Daisy and Ricky. I’m on Villy overload and I hope Billy Miller leaves. His mugging is a killer and he’s been checked out for a year now. I’m not minding Adam and Chelsea but I am not liking Jack and Nikki as much as I hoped.

    Days is just a very anemic show. Some of the dialogue is good along with individual scenes but so many characters just blend together. Madison, Carrie, Nicole are all the same and Rafe, Lucas, Austin, and yes even EJ now all blend. It’s very strange. Sami, Will, Marlena have benefitted but not really anyone else. And where is Wills story. Are you telling me another stupid baby drama with the exact same characters is more compelling than telling Wills story?

    B&B is the best show and that’s not saying much but I agree with Carol the stuff that’s working is Hopes story and Ambers role in that. And Bill is creepy with Hope. But please give Brooke and Ridge something to do than discussing the love lives of their kids. And more Katie, Bill, and Steffy over Steffys sudden love for Liam. Ugh.

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