HomeTagsComings & GoingsRichard Steinmetz Joins General Hospital Luke Kerr May 24, 2012 68 Comments Former Loving and Passions star Richard Steinmetz is coming to Port Charles. General Hospital’s Frank Valentini told Soap Opera Digest, "Richard is playing the son of a former character who will have big story with Sonny." 68 Responses SwanQueen59 May 24, 2012 No offense to Mr. Steinmetz, but I am sick :Sp of any “big story with Sonny”. :(Clarification as usual-not MB. It’s the character.) Sigh… 0:) Log in to Reply appleridge May 24, 2012 Is this Sam’s Dad? Log in to Reply soapjunkie88 May 24, 2012 “the son of a former character”? Wonder who’s son he could be. But do we really need another character that has ties to Sonny somehow? MB should take the back burner for a while. -.- Log in to Reply Nk3play2 May 24, 2012 Either he’s Frank Smith’s kid, or Joe Scully’s kid, or he could be Deac’s kid (no with Adela)…. I actually like the idea of Deac’s kid coming to town and going after Sonny; I mean his vengeance would actually make sense as opposed to Sonny’s most recent enemies (i. e. the Alcazars and Zaccharas) Log in to Reply alexrochet May 24, 2012 I am sick too Swan!!!! So CarTini are ruining Johnny and throwing him under the bus but they are hiring one more new guy to have a feud with Sonny??? You must be kidding me? ENOUGH-ENOUGH-ENOUGH!!! ENOUGH of Sonny and his horrible spawns, ENOUGH of Todd being pushed down our throats to be paired with Carly at the expense of Johnny, even of OLTL storylines being repeated, ENOUGH of the horrible Starr… ENOUGH of newbies I don’t give a damn about all that to redeem and whitewash SOnny evenmore? Do Cartini really think we can be manipulated so easily???? I am sooo mad at what they are doing to Johnny. So disrespectful. So disappointed. I am wondering if I am not going to start missing Guza soon because except rapes, DID, potential baby switches that we have already seen again and again on OLTL, and vets appearing 3 minutes on my TV screen, I really don’t see the upside at all since CarTini showed up and with this Johnny mess, I am becoming nostalgic of the past! GOOD JOB (sorry I just threw up a little bit in my mouth) Log in to Reply Tris Drake May 24, 2012 Patrick needs to come operate on my head because my brain is about to explode!!! I can not tolerate Sonny shoved down my throat constantly and MB phoning in performances. Can someone else get airtime? Like people we already have on canvas? I feel like I’m watching OLTL on really bad acid. Log in to Reply Scout May 24, 2012 I can’t believe we ever lived in a world where the executive producer and head writer of a daytime soap opera thought it was a good idea to put a sociopathic mobster and his brain-damaged hitman front and center as antagonists. Really? What’s even more unbelivable is that these so-called good men are still thought viable by the new PTB. GH has been a giant glob of crap for years and still is; some things never change. Log in to Reply Katiebug9624 May 24, 2012 I know we are all sick to death of Sonny BUT can we at least be grateful that a former soap star has been cast and not someone like James Franco again? Log in to Reply SwanQueen59 May 24, 2012 Ah, dear alexrochet. Nice to know we’re on the same page about the bully. Thanks, darlin’… 0:) Log in to Reply Tris Drake May 24, 2012 The only soap vet I truly want to see is Rick Hearst. But we all know what happens to great actors on GH. Log in to Reply TV Gord May 24, 2012 Could he be Anthony’s son? Log in to Reply david46208 May 24, 2012 @everyone: Remember as long as Cartini does the casting and bring on of characters it is pure gold. As long as they are writing the stories it is okay. Because they can walk on water like Jesus! They are feeding 200,000 people with a loaf of bread and a fish. They are healing the sick, curing the blind and turning water into wine! You will burn for eternity if you don’t accept them as your soap savior! Died on the 2pm time-slot for all soap sins and rose again on GH in fulfillment of the scripture! Log in to Reply Verdilover May 24, 2012 Swan, Alex, Tris Drake, GREAT POSTS! I fully agree with you. We certainly don’t need another newbie (don’t we have enough with the OLTL characters already?) and another lame story with the horrible Sonny. They ruin Johnny that people love and they bring that guy? You must be kidding me. Ron and Frank are antagonizing more and more GH fans. Beware of this all backfiring! Their writing is really really poor and non creative and as many said the agendas are so not subtle that they are laughable. Log in to Reply Verdilover May 24, 2012 David46208, LOL I really liked what CarTini did the last year of OLTL (even if I hated TSJ leaving as I loathe RH’s Todd) so I was stupidly more than happy to give them a chance. What they are doing with Johnny, Todd and Sonny just show me what an IDIOT I was. I hate what they are doing to my GH right now. Hate it. Log in to Reply Scout May 24, 2012 [quote=david46208]@everyone: Remember as long as Cartini does the casting and bring on of characters it is pure gold…You will burn for eternity if you don’t accept them as your soap savior! Died on the 2pm time-slot for all soap sins and rose again on GH in fulfillment of the scripture![/quote] Okay, before we go too far off into this weirdly sacrireligious direction, let the congregation thus remember the years of crappy storylines shoved at us by Bob Guza and the horrid patch job perpetrated by Garin Wolf. Yes, a LOT of what’s on screen is crap right now, but I’m not at all convinced a good portion of it is dictated by the suits at ABCD. Face it, people: ABC wants to kill this show; what GH has right now is a reprieve, not a renewal. Log in to Reply jthawk May 24, 2012 [quote=david46208]@everyone: Remember as long as Cartini does the casting and bring on of characters it is pure gold. As long as they are writing the stories it is okay. Because they can walk on water like Jesus! They are feeding 200,000 people with a loaf of bread and a fish. They are healing the sick, curing the blind and turning water into wine! You will burn for eternity if you don’t accept them as your soap savior! Died on the 2pm time-slot for all soap sins and rose again on GH in fulfillment of the scripture![/quote] @Everyone – Let’s not be so quick to forget that Cartini as you put – with the help of that trash was “The Revolution” SAVED THIS SOAP OPERA. Soap fans make me sick over how we continue to bitch and gripe about everything. Is GH perfect? No. Is it a little OLTL heavy at times? Possible. But at least the OLTL have been integrated into GH with characters from GH. Todd and Starr interact with GH’s Leading Lady – Carly and her son Michael. McBain is interacting with Sam and having SMOKING HOT chemistry. The only exception perhaps is Tea who is mainly interacting with Starr and Todd, but GH fans would have been pissed had they cast another blonde bimbo to come in a be Starr’s attorney. At least there is history here with Tea in town! Furthermore, I find it so funny how quickly GH fans forget that TRASH that was Garrin Wolf’s reign as head-writer! Correct me if I am wrong, didn’t he rape Sam! Didn’t he have Lisa Niles wield a vile of HIV blood at Patrick and Robin! Was he not going to have the precious Robin die of HIV! It was this regime that stopped that hot mess of a storyline. I think soap fans just want something to bitch and moan about – whether it be the stories aren’t good, the characters are boring or the show gets canceled. True…TRUE soap fans need to support what is left of this genre, especialy when there is a team like Ron C. and Frank V. who actually CARE about their soap and love the genre. Does anyone thing Maria Arena Bell or Ken Corday give two shakes about their soaps, the way that these men do?! Doubt it! Log in to Reply david46208 May 24, 2012 @Verdilover: They need to bring Michele Val Jean back and have her co-headwrite the show with Ron. She ain’t doing much at B&B. Her talents would be much better served on GH. See I don’t just complain I come up with solutions! (LOL). And yes Ron did do a much better job during the last year of OLTL. I Also understand that given what GH was dealing with at the time many fans believed that maybe this team could create magic at on the mountain once more. I also know that we are (as they say in the church) “living in our last days…” But this show is starting to do things that turned me off of Y&R. And it is better to call them out now. And elephant in the room that many fans allude to but don’t always outright say is that GH feels like 2 soap opera’s OLTL and GH. And that the writers are trying to balance between pleasing two contingents of soap fans on the same show. And they are doing a sloppy job at it. -Todd vs Sonny is really a repeat of Victor vs Todd on OLTL slightly remixed. -OLTL characters have not been slowly integrated into the show. They have been thrust onto the frontburner with mixed results. Mostly bad. And ratings have reflected those mixed results. -Fans were told that many of these OLTL characters were being brought on for short stints and bam they ain’t been airing on the show a week before we started hearing of long term contracts being signed with some of them. So I feel the angst and anger many fans have. Log in to Reply Katiebug9624 May 24, 2012 Ratings have went UP since the OLTL group has shown up in GH both behind and in front of the camera. Log in to Reply liason4real May 24, 2012 It’s a bummer, but we all know that ABC wants out of scripted day time drama and is actively looking for cheap shows. GH was only given a reprieve and will be gone sooner or later. It’s too bad that the new character is tied to Sonny and is not a recast for Dr. Jeffrey Webber. Log in to Reply jthawk May 24, 2012 And yet let us not forget that as these OLTL people have been brought on – Anna Devane and Heather Webber have been brought on as well. Log in to Reply Tris Drake May 24, 2012 I know I’m probably the only one,but Robin could have died of HIV and I feel it would have been a better story. I never could stand Robin,but I would have felt for her. Hell,I would have cried. Instead she chose to “sacrifice’ herself to save save the town killer all while her hubby watched. That made me hate the character even more. I could overlook a lot,pretty much anything at this point,if they fixed this Johnny mess. Some of us want a villian that is not Sonny or Jason. Log in to Reply pjc722 May 24, 2012 [quote=jthawk][quote=david46208]@everyone: Remember as long as Cartini does the casting and bring on of characters it is pure gold. As long as they are writing the stories it is okay. Because they can walk on water like Jesus! They are feeding 200,000 people with a loaf of bread and a fish. They are healing the sick, curing the blind and turning water into wine! You will burn for eternity if you don’t accept them as your soap savior! Died on the 2pm time-slot for all soap sins and rose again on GH in fulfillment of the scripture![/quote] @Everyone – Let’s not be so quick to forget that Cartini as you put – with the help of that trash was “The Revolution” SAVED THIS SOAP OPERA. Soap fans make me sick over how we continue to bitch and gripe about everything. Is GH perfect? No. Is it a little OLTL heavy at times? Possible. But at least the OLTL have been integrated into GH with characters from GH. Todd and Starr interact with GH’s Leading Lady – Carly and her son Michael. McBain is interacting with Sam and having SMOKING HOT chemistry. The only exception perhaps is Tea who is mainly interacting with Starr and Todd, but GH fans would have been pissed had they cast another blonde bimbo to come in a be Starr’s attorney. At least there is history here with Tea in town! Furthermore, I find it so funny how quickly GH fans forget that TRASH that was Garrin Wolf’s reign as head-writer! Correct me if I am wrong, didn’t he rape Sam! Didn’t he have Lisa Niles wield a vile of HIV blood at Patrick and Robin! Was he not going to have the precious Robin die of HIV! It was this regime that stopped that hot mess of a storyline. I think soap fans just want something to bitch and moan about – whether it be the stories aren’t good, the characters are boring or the show gets canceled. True…TRUE soap fans need to support what is left of this genre, especialy when there is a team like Ron C. and Frank V. who actually CARE about their soap and love the genre. Does anyone thing Maria Arena Bell or Ken Corday give two shakes about their soaps, the way that these men do?! Doubt it![/quote] How far off base you are with the attack on the gripes of us fans! First of all, Yes Wolf wrote that Sam was raped but it was the NEW REGIME that wrote that Sam’s baby was Francos and not Jason’s. ANd for that matter that Franco was a Quartermaine. Also, it was the NEW REGIME that decided to bring up the LISA NILES story again after ALL OF US FANS were happy it was dead along with the character and no one was chiming for the killer’s identity. It was THIS REGIME that could not come up with a better way of getting rid of Robin or recasting her since the actress was leaving and to only bring on a handful of actors to attend the funeral. It was this NEW REGIME that opted to kill off Starr’s family instead of coming up with a better idea of why Starr was in PC alone. AND IT WAS THIS REGIME that has OPTED to make VIOLENCE and GUN USE an even more every day occurance than it was prior under the old regime!!! Remember Todd walked into a COURT HOUSE AND POINTED A GUN AT SONNY AND THREATENED TO KILL HIM all the while on the lamb for his own crimes in LLANVIEW. It’s great to praise a show when they have something to be praised about. BUT if they are not doing a great job or if they are doing the same job as before than we should complain. The INCREASE in viewers for this show can easily be given to the fact that 3-4 stars from OLTL now live in PC and not because the show is any better or that CARTINI are doing any better a job than the last regime. So shut up. Log in to Reply TV Gord May 24, 2012 If there’s an increase in viewers, that’s all that matters. Advertisers don’t care whether the show is any better or worse. They only care if people are watching their commercials. Log in to Reply Carol2 May 24, 2012 [quote=Katiebug9624]Ratings have went UP since the OLTL group has shown up in GH both behind and in front of the camera.[/quote] Ratings have been up and down. After the breathless hype of the first weeks of their run, ratings crashed again. Now they’re back up, and will likely decline again. If the best that can be said is wow, they are marginally above all time low ratings, then ABC has little reason to save the show. The same was said with OLTL – oh look, they’re above their all time low ratings. The only reason GH probably isn’t gone yet is because The Revolution was a ratings disaster, not because Ron and Frank badly redoing bad OLTL stories is a big hit. Log in to Reply jthawk May 24, 2012 In terms of the Franco storyline – in my opinion this regime looked at the hot mess Franco storyline and found a way to tie it up. Correct me if am wrong, but did Guza or Wolf ever address why Franco was so obsessed with Jason? This regime took that horrible story and at least, while maybe not the smartest move, tied it to the history of this show! Daytime has to push limits, all the while relying on history – while I am not a fan of Franco being Sam’s baby-daddy it does give conflict to Jason and Sam and it did allow us to see Heather Webber back on our screens and tie her back into Steven’s character and provide some pretty good stuff with Olivia! In terms of the Lisa Niles storyline – we watch soap operas. It is a continuation of story. For the new regime to come in and just ignore something that dominated GH for years prior would have been bad on their part and I bet money fans would have busted Frank and Ron for not addressing the fact that we never knew who Lisa’s killer was. In terms of Robin – I would have LOVED to see the response from fans had they tried to recast Robin. All holy hell would have broken lose. Plus, it needs to be considered that Jason Thompson wasn’t leaving the show, so the only logical way for Robin to exit was to have her die. But you’re blaming her death on this regime, that was already the plan – they just came in and changed how it happened, because let’s face it Robin’s HIV storyline is an iconic daytime storyline and how the previous regime mistreated the topic, did any of us think that they would have successfully handled an AIDS death storyline? And Carolyn H. with SOD hit the nail on the head – Robin had a small funeral because of budget reasons. In this econcomy while I don’t agree with it, it is part of the culture now. But I was THRILLED to have had a small funeral for Robin, because her mother Anna was there! Correct me if I am wrong was Phelps or Wolf going to bring Anna home for Robin’s funeral? Starr could not have come to PC alone. There was no way that was going to happen and successfully bring the OLTL fans with her. We saw her have the happy ending and she had the baby. Could it have been done differently, yes. Was I a fan of this storyline – NO! I hated that his how they brought Starr on, but it did provide drama for Sonny/Carly/Michael/Connie. I never said anything about guns. Sadly guns are a GH staple these days. I am not saying that the show is top notch. I’ve followed GH off and on for years, but because I am a fan of the genre I know watch it more regularly. My point is this: praise it when it’s good, critize when it’s bad – but it seems like everytime there is news or recaps about GH we are just beating up on the regime. Support the genre is all that I am saying. At least they are trying. And lastly, I am engaging in free-spirited debate telling me to “shut up” is rude for even messages boards, especialy whenever I never told you do that. Log in to Reply Carol2 May 24, 2012 Ron and Frank seemed to have little problem ignoring Lulu’s drinking problem, or ignoring that Anna and Luke have only known each other a few years… Log in to Reply SoapyBitch May 24, 2012 Just a GH flashback, but when I first started watching GH I was blown away when it was revealed that Damian Smith was Frank Smith’s son. It’s right there in the name, but I was OMG. I must have been reading SOW and SOD at the time, but I don’t recall being spoiled at all. This was pre-message boards (for me at least), but I wonder if long time viewers at the time put the pieces together. Log in to Reply The_Moustache May 24, 2012 JUST WHAT WE FU*KING NEED, ANOTHER STORY WITH SONNY AT THE CENTER. is this what Ron & Frank meant by reviving & re-tooling the show??? where is GMA in the Afternoon to cancel this sh*t already?? Log in to Reply youwho May 24, 2012 I think you all need to understand if MB and the character of Sonny walks. So does GH. Regardless of what you are sick of imagine the story lines if that were to happen. No one else can carry the show. BG killed the Quatermaines. Ron and Frank have been given a tough job and I think they are handling it great. Stop complaining and start supporting or you’ll be watching 5 hours of GMA just so they can compete with NBC. Log in to Reply GHteenybopper May 24, 2012 Oh yay.. Just what we’ve all wanted since it’s NEVER EVER been done before, bringing on a character for a big story involving Sonny… I’m so excited. . Log in to Reply alstonboy4315 May 24, 2012 I don’t get all the Sonny hatred on this board. Sonny’s not eating up this show anymore. If anything, Starr “I Can’t Grasp A Realistic Emotion Anymore” Manning and Kate/Connie/Bess 2.0/Messica 2.0/Tess 2.0/Wes 3.0 Lite). I have never had any problem with Maurice Benard being on the front burner. But I am clearly in the minority……… Log in to Reply TV Gord May 24, 2012 youwho, I agree with you completely! Personally, I would be delighted to see MB gone and a real effort to bring the Quarterbraines back! Even if they found a way to resurrect Alan, it would be worth it! Maybe they could have Johnny/Anthony’s spirit and Tracy/Alan’s spirit square off in some cool metaphysical battle. Whatever it takes. When I first started watching GH (when Skye travelled across the soap landscape to Port Charles), the Qs were the only other thing that interested me, and I watched that family decimated. When Skye left the first time, there was no longer a reason to keep watching because the Qs were gone. It feels as though Edward’s days on GH are numbered (a sad reality, given John Ingle’s real situation), but it would be nice to give him whatever scenes he could manage to build that family up again, and give Edward, Tracy, Monica and even Alice a repertory company around them. One solution would be to give Jason another personality change that would make him reject his mob ways (bye, Sonny!) and return to the Quartermaines. Maybe, with the Qs back at center stage, they could actually return some romance to the show. I’ve got a great catch phrase for the concept, too. They could call it…Love In The Afternoon! (My idea. Don’t anyone steal it!) Log in to Reply jthawk May 25, 2012 [quote=youwho]I think you all need to understand if MB and the character of Sonny walks. So does GH. Regardless of what you are sick of imagine the story lines if that were to happen. No one else can carry the show. BG killed the Quatermaines. Ron and Frank have been given a tough job and I think they are handling it great. Stop complaining and start supporting or you’ll be watching 5 hours of GMA just so they can compete with NBC.[/quote] WORD! Log in to Reply TV Gord May 25, 2012 alstonboy, I appreciate your defence of Sonny and I don’t disagree. Unfortunately, he is inextricably tied to the sorry legacy of mob family storylines on GH, so I can’t really see him survive if the mob is weeded out of the show. I fondly remember MB from his days as Nico on AMC, but I never understood why a b-lister from AMC went on to become a GH superstar (admittedly, I wasn’t watching GH then). I personally admire the actor, but I think the show and the fans need a break from the Sonny days. Log in to Reply alstonboy4315 May 25, 2012 TV Gord– I admire you, period!!!! :love: :love: :love: :love: I personally need a break from Starr and Kate/Connie. But I am sure that’s obvious because I only whine about it every other day……… Log in to Reply TV Gord May 25, 2012 You’re too kind, a’boy! And here I thought I was on your last nerve these days! I appreciate your kindness, because I always enjoy reading you! Log in to Reply curacaoman May 25, 2012 The new regime messed up a golden opportunity to make Constipason a Q again, with Robin’s miracle potion. SHAMEFUL! Log in to Reply Tris Drake May 25, 2012 If they never addressed Lisa again,I would have been fine. She wasn’t around long enough to care. I liked her Robin hate til she tried to infect Patty. Heck,I still don’t know who killed Epiphany’s son,Stan. Log in to Reply ibekingape May 25, 2012 All these Sonny haters are ridiculous. Boo hoo, they’re bringing in another character to interact with Sonny. Deal with it. For years, the show has had storylines with Sonny. When I first watched as a kid, I saw the drama-filled life of Sonny and Jason. You can’t just delete him from the equation and expect the entire show to make sense. They’re telling blanket stories now. He’s not going to be the ONLY person to interact with Sonny. He looks old enough however to interact with Alexis as well as a possible romantic suitor, or a list of other characters. He could be a new cop brought in since they’re supposedly ‘cleaning house’. A new lawyer perhaps. I’d say that in the past few months they’ve been showing the mobsters as actual mobsters; as people who lead dangerous lives with dangerous repercussions. For the first time in a couple years I actually want to get home to watch the show live… commercials and on. Since you’ve already given up on the show just hand in your soap-loving card. I was a GH fan before I became an OLTL fan and it just seems to me that GH fans are becoming more and more miserable. You hate Sonny but you complain when bad things are happening to him. It’s as if you’re totally closing your mind off to future storylines and web connections. It’s disparaging as a soap fan to see everyone whine and get all butthurt over a new character. Face it Ewan was an attractive character but he was boring as all hell and I hope Liz needs an interesting character to get her away from the ever indecisive Jason Morgan. Ya’ll are a trip. With fans like you, who needs execs trying to cancel the show? Log in to Reply Carol2 May 25, 2012 The main problem with Sonny is that MB just gives terrible, bizarre performances, which often seem to be delivered from inside a hastily scribbled cue card. This throws scenes off over and over, and when you add in the laziness of Sonny stories, that just about everyone in his life always pledges fealty to him, and how these stories never have any consequences, and it’s just awful to watch. I remember all the hoopla over the scenes where Todd held Sonny at gunpoint, and surprise surprise, the scenes were horribly acted (by both MB and Roger Howarth), had lousy dialogue, bad pacing, and zero suspense. The ratings dropped that very week. Log in to Reply ACMallet May 25, 2012 I’ve been reading the comments of all you GH haters every day. Bitch, bitch, bitch. Is there a site where I can find posts by people who actually LIKE the show? Log in to Reply GHteenybopper May 25, 2012 Maybe, ACMallet, the reason why we voice our opinions so loudly is because we DO like the show, and want to see it on the air a little bit longer, I see no reason why we get condemned for voicing our opinions. The comments here are made as ideas to make the show better, whether people agree or disagree with everyones input. Since you don’t like the so-called “bitching”, why don’t you avoid reading the comments. Log in to Reply GHteenybopper May 25, 2012 Maybe, ACMallet, the reason why we voice our opinions so loudly is because we DO like the show, and want to see it on the air a little bit longer, I see no reason why we get condemned for voicing our opinions. The comments here are made as ideas to make the show better, whether people agree or disagree with everyones input. Since you don’t like the so-called “bitching”, why don’t you avoid reading the comments. Log in to Reply Carol2 May 25, 2012 I’d say DC is one of the places which is fondest of “Cartini” and most willing to praise their stories. Every post doesn’t have SOAPY GOODNESS SOAPY GOODNESS!!! tacked on, but most are positive. Log in to Reply TV Gord May 25, 2012 ACMallet, perhaps if you spent less time criticizing the people with negative opinions and instead offered some positive opinions of your own, you could turn this conversation around. Message boards often pile on what’s wrong with a show, but then one person will offer a different opinion, and that will encourage others who like the show to speak up in agreement. So, rather than add your own negativity, just tell us what YOU think about the show. Log in to Reply gato1 May 25, 2012 I really dont know why alot of “fans” watch this show, all they do is bitch and moan. The hospital and Quartermaines have been cried about for YEARS, they dont seem to ever be coming back, stop watching or shut up Log in to Reply Carol2 May 25, 2012 Based on the ratings, most have stopped watching. Log in to Reply TV Gord May 25, 2012 Sad, but true, Carol2. Log in to Reply TV Gord May 25, 2012 HLN will air Daytime Emmys! I know that’s a little off-topic, but I just read it on tvguide.com, and wanted to share right away! Log in to Reply SwanQueen59 May 25, 2012 Thanks TV Gord for the Daytime Emmy information… 0:) Log in to Reply TV Gord May 25, 2012 I had to laugh at the story at tvguide.com. They describe GH as a “daytime medical series”. LOL! When was they last time they actually tuned in! LOL! Log in to Reply SwanQueen59 May 25, 2012 Laughing here. When indeed?… 0:) Log in to Reply TV Gord May 25, 2012 Log in to Reply The_Moustache May 25, 2012 here is the link to the Emmy’s airing on the Headline News Network!! http://www.welovesoaps.net/2012/05/daytime-emmys-will-air-on-hln.html Log in to Reply SwanQueen59 May 25, 2012 Thanks for the link The_Moustache… 0:) Log in to Reply alexrochet May 25, 2012 I am sorry but I don’t get all this condescending patronizing speech about people “bitching” who are not “true fans” or who don’t want to “save the genre”. Calling other ‘s opinion about Sonny “ridiculous”? Fine What do you prefer you who are telling us to stop complaining? That we stop watching so in the end we will stop complaining and voicing what we don’t like on this show or that we keep watching the show and add our rating but tell loudly (if we want a chance to be heard) what we don’t like. I find interesting that some of the posters patronizing us are posters who had (they said it themselves and even again in this thread) stopped watching GH at one time or never watched on a regular basis or came back to GH thanks to the OLTL refugee. I have been watching GH religiously for the past 24 years. Thanks to VHS, DVR, YouTube, I have not missed ONE episode of GH in 24 years NOT ONE! So I will certainly not let people who at one time deserted my show explain me what a “true fan” is and why I should be happy and cheering so much for CarTini. This must be a joke! I have lost almost all the characters I have loved on GH. My last one is Lulu. Which has been totally ruined when Meg Bennett decided to pair her with Sonny’s spawn aka Airhog Dumbte (at least Cartini has understood that’s the less Lante are on screen the better). JMB is one of the best actresses in Daytime TV but CarTini reduce her to a redo of “JoLie at the Llanview PD”. I was hoping they would have Lulu grow apart that douche Dante, start running the Haunted Star and find her inner Spencer back. But no, she is barely on and stupid Starr gets 10 or even 15 times teh screentime that Julie is getting. I loved Johnny and Lulu together. When they broke up I remained loyal to my girl and was happy to see her on her own becoming a strong young woman. It was before they forced the Lante pairing and made it all about Dante and never about Lulu. I was hoping that CarTini would give us the opportunity of a Dante/Lulu/Johnny triangle. But they don’t. Instead they are ruining my last favorite male character of the show Johnny. I am very disappointed by what Ron and Frank are doing. So yes I am feeling that I may soon stop watching. Because I don’t see a point of “watching for watching” when the show has become so painful that I don’t even want to see my favorite characters anymore considering how CarTini are destroying them (Johnny) or backburning them (Lulu). I don’t see why I have to “drink the CarTini Kool Aid” and be grateful when the last months of my show (whether it is 4 more months or 16 months maximum) will all be about Sonny Corinthos and his horrible children or the atrocious Todd playing the good guy with Carly when we all know that this guy is a monster and CarTini are throwing Johnny, a GH character that so many people love, for the sake of propping/pimping Todd on screen. NO THANK YOU. And as someone who has probably watched much more episodes of GH than most of the patronizing people here, I don’t see why I can not be authorized to voice my opinion, even if it is a negative one. I don’t remember any of those people commenting day after day on Perkie’s Observation in the past three years! I call, I write letters, I went to several GH FCWE. So don’t ever dare telling me I am not a “true fan”. Who do these people think they are??? I love my show and I certainly don’t want CarTini to keep going in that direction of rape / DID / destroying GH characters. This is NOT good writing and I am not a sheep, I won’t let people try to push me to say it is just because they love OLTL first (which I totally respect) and they want CarTini to be given a free pass. If I don’t like what I see I have two options: say it loud and clear in the vague hope things will be changed if we are enough to scream about it… or stop watching. As I am a “true” GH fan, I have chosen the first option. But if what I have on screen doesn’t look like GH anymore because they are writing GH characters OOC in order to promote their own characters, this is not GH and my loyalty will finally be over. SO I will not stop screaming if I am unhappy. The day I stop, it will just mean that I took GH out of my DVR. And I don’t think that it will be better for the show in the end if a lot of people do like me instead of still watching but voicing their opinion. Log in to Reply AlexB May 25, 2012 Back to the on coming character…I’m just going to say it, did he beat Sonny’s ass, too? Log in to Reply ibekingape May 25, 2012 I believe that ‘fans’ who say the show should go off the air because they dislike a storyline or a couple of characters aren’t real fans at all. There’s plenty I don’t like about the shows I watch but do I want it off the air? No. I dislike Maxie with Spinelli, hated that Georgie was killed, didn’t care for Liz/Jason at all together, never liked Jax or Ewen, etc. But I still watch the show, heck, now instead of watching on youtube I’m excited to actually watch it live … even if I don’t get the storylines I want. In a perfect world I’d want Sonny to be more tortured and eventually crumble, Jason to revert back to quartermaine via brain injury, Sam to find her father, Davis girls to reconnect with their Alcazar family side, Spinelli to be Sonny’s kid, working with Mac as a private investigator, etcetera etcetera. I’d love a gay/lesbian storyline, more black and asian characters utilized but that’s not happening and it may never happen once again but I love this show and no matter how much I roll my eyes I would never say that the show should be canceled because of my opinion on a character or storyline. Never. Log in to Reply alexrochet May 25, 2012 Ibekingape, the only poster who says the show should be cancelled is The-Moustache and if you know DC a little bit you know that it is a specialty of him/her to provoke us all the time. You can perhaps add LuluFF aka Johnnylover who is very colorful also. But that’s all. But you will see here a lot of “true GH fans”. And being patronized by people who were not even watching the show a few weeks/months/years ago when we NEVER stopped watching in such a condescending way? NO WAY. And to come back to your post #39. You say we complain when something bad happen to Sonny? Show me one post here in the past 3 years that have been complaining about something bad happening to poor Sonny (did something bad ever happened to him BTW? He always get out of the worst situation as white as a dove). Everybody here says that Sonny needs to eventually pay for all he has done and is screaming to get that. All we get in return is Johnny being thrown under the bus to whitewash Sonny even though it makes zero sense and is totally OOC. So don’t be surprised if people are suddenly very angry right now all over the GH boards. This Johnny thing has been very telling of what CarTini want to do and most of us have suddenly woken up and took out our rose colored glasses about CarTini. They don’t care about ruining characters that we love as long as they can pimp their horrible own characters such as Starr and Todd. Log in to Reply Cyberologist May 25, 2012 At least Carlivati was honest and said GH would be Sonnycentric (JaSon too) in myopinion people keep forgetting the show was SaSon centric for decades & lost viewers. HUH? So if Maurice Benard leaves GH for whatever reason the show is not viable but it was before he showed up… WoW that is one major flaw with this show not enough balance. General Hospital shouldn’t be all about one character but an “ensemble of storytelling.” Thank goodness many fans I post with is just as sick of him as I am. alexrochet I’m with you am I not allowed to voice my opinion without being chastised? I don’t have to like every aspect of this show but the thing is “I’m watching it” so there it is in order to complain/criticize or whatever “you have to watch” that’s all they’ve cared about…I don’t think complaining caused shows to be cancelled they don’t give a shit about fan opinion just the numbers 1,000 more people are watching GH than this time last year (they got their lost audience back). GH will be cancelled like the other two because ABCDisney wants out of the soap business…they are too expensive to produce they want them gone. If I want to criticize/complain or whatever I damn well will do that.. I don’t need permission; last I heard this is a democracy & freedom of speech is still on the books especially on a forum (allowing personal comments). I don’t know anything about this Stenmeitz but I do know about how many villains (or special prosecutors) brought on to take down Sonny Corinthos this isn’t interesting storytelling when I already have John McBain doing the same thing … (after Johnny & Anthony) so what’s new here? Nothing. Log in to Reply ibekingape May 26, 2012 #59 = In regards to Sonny you have Kate/Connie, and Mcbain going after Sonny. Mcbain was precisely bought over to go after Sonny and everyone is complaining. A new character is coming to town and no one knows if he’s pro/con Sonny but because he has ANYTHING to do with Sonny, he must be a worthless character. First of all, characters who are hated are consistentlye xplroed and utilzied because hate is stronger than indifference, and everyone likes to see everything crumbel down. Just look at pure, saintly Jason finally being seen as a total arse and being targeted by McBain as well. Look at all of these morally and criminally corrupt characters finally beings hown the way they are… and now look at everyone complain about those storylines now that Jason isn’t a lord and savior? I posted in another post about Johnny. He’s a criminal, a character who was mental from the very beginning. Just because he was more sane than his creepy grandfather who offed his mother/father or his sister/mother, doesn’t mean he’s an altogether sane character. How is showing him in the light of a criminal who finally accepted teh darkness of his family corrupting him? What about all the past crimes he’s done? Has that left him completely pure? I’m not surprised people are angry over storylines. I’m surprised that people can’t decide what kind of storyline they actually want now that their hated characters are being shown realistically. Mister dangling-off-roof-tops never had all his marbles. I’m not saying it’s all his fault, that’s the intrigue behind the character, he’s a mob prince who is a product of his environment and lack of nurture… but seriously? To say that isn’t within the character’s nature? This reckless, dangerous character who has always been advertised as dark, tormented and tortured? There seems to be a ridiculous self-righteousness in the hearts of man fans who simply because ‘CarTini’ are behind the show now. I’ll admit I’m not the greatest fan of the mob stuff being on all the time but when i started watching this show it was with Sonny and Jason at the helm. It’s a soap opera. People and characters do all types of horrible, heinous things. Like Sam being thrown under the bus to gain sympathy for Liz and destroy the character of Sam with the whole kidnapping of the child bit that occured years ago. You know what would ruin Johnny? Sanity. To be honest his only intrigue as a character is his eternal conflict and how he’s constantly on the edge. What I think/hope the writers will/are doing, is creating a story that will finally put Sonny/Jason where they belong. Their empire needs to cripple, the police need to start doing their job, the fmilies in port charles need to return and flourish. People complain about the mob and then complain about a cop coming in to take the mob down. People complain about Sonny being everyone’s loveable mobster and then complain about the stories where he’s being attacked at several angles: ie, Todd, Mcbain, hopefully the pcpd now, kate/connie. All I’m saying is that the back and forth opinions of this show on their boards sound as schizophrenic as the Zaccaras sound looney. I just don’t get the CarTini hate, not after the crapfest that came before them. I get that ya’ll are angry but I just can’t stand all the bashing going on, especially since to me very few people even gave CarTini much of a chance anyway. Guza should just come back to give ya’ll the stories you’ve been yearning for. He obviously knows how to please you guys. Another ridiculous note to me is that the show gets two new behind the scenes people: producer and writer, and some of the same old writers and behind the scenes people remain but it’s CarTini who’s driving GH down the drain, not the people who steered it there in the first place, right? And of course we have a crystal ball and can read their intentions especially when it comes to casting – so well in fact that we’re downright clairvoyant and can conclude where a story/character will go. Let’s ignore how Robin, Brenda, Jax and Dante have been written throughout the years, let’s forget how many months it takes for a story to pan out, let’s just jump on the bandwagon and blame the two people that have been handed this sinking ship and scapegoat them for the entire last leg of the run. I’m all for everyone having an opinion but the people behind abc daytime, and the people still on staff on this show remain and until this is changed, I think a show that practically dictated the crapfest of Sam/Jason since the kidnapping of Jake will probably continue to ruin characters no matter who is ‘writing’ or ‘producing’. Haters are gonna hate though, so it is what it is. I shouldn’t stress over it. After years of watching this show, I should get used to scapegoating. I don’t think the show is perfect or will ever be perfect, jsyk. I don’t knwo who this character will be or what storylines will occur hereafter. I’m just trying to be realisticic and objective considering the state of soaps, the state of this soap and the facts of the situation – which include ABC, the behind-the-scenes staff, and differences between the last ‘regimes’/runs. Log in to Reply sassysdreams May 26, 2012 Tris Drake – Epiphany’s son Stan was murdered in a auto accident caused by Jerry Jacks. Log in to Reply soapfan616 May 26, 2012 [quote=SwanQueen59]No offense to Mr. Steinmetz, but I am sick :Sp of any “big story with Sonny”. :(Clarification as usual-not MB. It’s the character.) Sigh… 0:)[/quote] **** This regime just doesn’t get it. I think a lot of people are underestimating the number of fans who are disgruntled or who have totally abandoned this show because of Sonny being shoved down our throats 4 days per week. I don’t know if ever the mis-using of one character has so killed a soap. I guess the Guza/Frons man-crush was passed down to this regime. Log in to Reply soapfan616 May 26, 2012 [quote=Carol2]The main problem with Sonny is that MB just gives terrible, bizarre performances, which often seem to be delivered from inside a hastily scribbled cue card. This throws scenes off over and over, and when you add in the laziness of Sonny stories, that just about everyone in his life always pledges fealty to him, and how these stories never have any consequences, and it’s just awful to watch. I remember all the hoopla over the scenes where Todd held Sonny at gunpoint, and surprise surprise, the scenes were horribly acted (by both MB and Roger Howarth), had lousy dialogue, bad pacing, and zero suspense. The ratings dropped that very week.[/quote] **** AMEN! Log in to Reply ANGELWENDY15 May 27, 2012 I agree with everything you said! I am tired of all the bashing and complaining that has been going on. We should be lucky we HAVE a show to watch. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. My opinion is that I al loving GH again, thanks to Frank and Ron. Sure, it is not perfect, but it is so much better then it was a year ago. How can you forget Garin W.’s awful “Woman in White Story” and Sonny and Kate’s endless talks about their Besonhurst days? The show moved at a snail pace. Now, it is moving faster, stories and characters are connecting better I like the One Life characters. Never liked Sam but am loving the chemistry between her and John. And John is so much better on GH, he actually smiles! The Luke, Tracey, and dead Anthony scenes made me laugh. Great to see humor on this once dark show. I wish Anthony wasn’t killed off because Bruce Weitz was so funny in the role. But I guess they could take the character just so far and his death brought on some really funny scenes. Was upset about the big change in Johnny, but this will give him a lot of meaty material to play and I’m sure Ron sees how great Brandon B, is and how much he has grown as an actor. Todd is always amusing, but I’d like to see Trevor St. John on for a little while at least as Victor. Now him up against Sonny I would like to see. Love Heather, she plays crazy so well, and Anna , who brings on the emotions and tears so well. May-be now Mac will finally get a different storyline, he deserves it. Would like more Quartermaines but we can’t blame Ron, John Ingles is ill and Guza killed half of them off. His biggest mistake was killing off Alan, he really is needed now for the family, and Monica needs a story and man in her life. How about bringing on David Vickers (even if just for a little while. I can just hear the complaints again how One Life is taking over the show!) He was so funny and I could just see him walking around the Quartermaine mansion half naked in a towel, going after Monica and Tracy (he always liked the older women with money, and isn’t Tony Geary due to go on his 3 month annual vacation?) I’m loving the Davis girls scenes, giving Alexis more to do, Jason and Liz dealing with Jake’s death, such touching scenes, and Epiphany and Patrick scenes. Frank and Ron have brought such heart back into the show. I do wiah Sonny was less prominent, though Maurice had been giving his all the last few weeks. A year ago he seemed bored and sleep-walked thru his scenes. More action now. Has anyone thought that the ABC honchos insist Sonny and Jason stay front and center and Frank and Ron HAS to keep it this way? At least they giving the 2 characters more emmotion-packed story-lines, though they are the Mob and we have to see some guns. If they took that away you’d have the fans complaining that they want more Sonny and guns. You can’t please everyone but I think Frank and Ron have brought more balance to the show. I will continue to watch and support GH. If any soap needs a change it’s the #! (sorry, I can’t understand that) Young and Restless. Same stories over and over, couples getting together, a few weeks later breaking up, Victor’s same old mumblings, and every other word is Beauty Of Nature> Genie Francis, in my opinion, is so wrong for the role, she just grits her teeth and eats up the scenery. And all the All My Children former actors, Billy Miller the exception, are so miscast, Now that show needs mew writers fast! We are all entitled to our own opinions and mine is that I am loving GH again. They have the best actors and it may not be perfect but it keeps getting better and at this point, give it more time. It may become must-watch TV again. I just want it to stay on the air!!! Log in to Reply SwanQueen59 May 28, 2012 ibekingape-Interesting and thoughtful post (#61). Speaking for myself, I have actually welcomed the character of McBain being introduced onto the GH canvas for what seems to be the specific purpose of “bringing down the mob”-starting with “the bully” Corinthos as I refer to him. I can overlook the contrived (according to some), story about McBain’s sister being a casualty of mob violence. MB’s character, that he has played non-stop for almost twenty years, is present in virtually every story that has come down the pike at GH whether or not the character has ties, familial or otherwise to what’s going on. It’s the near constant insertion into story, seemingly just to get him “in there” that grates. Even before Guza and Wolf, it became apparent that, for whatever reason, TPTB got the idea that a mob centered soap was somehow going to be a “ground breaking” direction for daytime drama. Personally, I was never enamored of this criminal kingpin nor did I ever regard him as a “loveable mobster”. When they introduced Dante Falconeri into the mix, it was a hopeful sign that maybe, just maybe an undercover cop whose mentor had died as a result of a mob hit ordered by Corinthos, would (finally), burrow into the organization far enough to crack the foundations and start the “crumbling” of the empire. But oops! Not so fast, kiddies. The undercover cop is, in reality, the mob bosses’ first born son that he never knew about. And neither did his son. Well, hot damn! Isn’t that just dandy?! If Guza thought this was going to be a windfall of good will for the Corinthos clan, he must have parked his head where the sun doen’t shine. Not only did it taint the Falconeri character as a result of genetics, the subsequent refusal to name his father as his shooter took the character into the basement as far as following the “letter of the law”. (I admit I’m one of maybe a handful on this board that still support the character and want to see him recover some of his “Dominic Perelli” edge. It’s going to be a long haul.) And once again the elder Corinthos gets away with attempted murder as a result of storytelling that appears pre-determined to keep the criminal “on top”. And you wonder why we’re sick of the bully? I won’t get into the John Zacchara debate. I have my own thoughts that I’m sifting through, many which bother me about how he’s been recently written overall. As for McBain, if he takes down the the bully, as a Llanview transplant, and in tandem with FH’s Anna, I will throw a party and raise a glass. :beer: Do a lot of us complain? Absolutely. Do we want to complain? I, personally, don’t. I’d like to think that most here don’t want to complain either. I guess I’m complaining most about the systematic destruction of GH as a place where finely crafted stories, dramatic, romantic and uplifting used to be told. And they didn’t revolve around one or two characters four out of five days a week. Yes, you’re right. GH isn’t perfect, it probably never will be. But there is no reason why it can’t strive to be excellent. Just my thoughts and me being honest… 0:) Log in to Reply nysam May 28, 2012 Mark my words….Richard will be cast as the son of a former mobster. Will it be Scully, Rivera, Jerome, Smith, Alcazar, Zacharra, the Balkan? The list goes on and on and on….He will have ties to Kate & Sonny and be responsible for Kate’s DID exonerating Sonny and his causing Kate to be shot, kidnapped, etc. Kate will probably have been raped by Steinmetz’s character and in predictable soap fashion have a 20 something kid showing up in town in time for the summer. Sad how focused this show is on rape…. RAPISTS – Luke, Todd, Johnny and soon to be seen new mobster character. VICTIMS – Liz, Sam, Kate (by Johnny & the new character)and Michael. Before we blame Guza for writing such a dark show let’s acknowledge that Cartini brought rapist Todd on the canvas, made Johnny a rapist and is now about to embark on another rape story. I a matter of 5 months they have doubled the rape stories on GH. Where has love in the afternoon gone? I don’t find myself tuning into root for any romance. Log in to Reply mhgeneralfan June 24, 2012 Doubt he can be Scully’s kid [i.e., Kate's child] ’cause he looks so much older than his “mother”, don’t you think??? I like the idea of maybe Sam’s dad though!! Log in to Reply Leave a Reply Cancel Reply You must be logged in to post a comment.