General Hospital: Perkie’s Observations


Ewen wakes up to find Elizabeth at his bedside. When he remembers what happened, he feels the need to warn everyone about Connie. Liz assures him that Kate is in Shadybrook getting the help she needs and for him to stay put. Liz mentions Maggie and explains how she killed herself. Ewen figures you never know what she was struggling with, but Liz doesn’t think Maggie was the type to kill someone including herself. Ewen reminds her that he still owes her a desert. He asks for them to pick things up where they left off. Liz is happy about that.

Sonny pays Kate a visit. She tells him about a nightmare she’s having about shooting at Anthony and causing the accident. Sonny tells her that it wasn’t her, that she has an illness and Connie caused the accident. Kate points out that she’s Connie and she pulled the trigger. Sonny says the police don’t know about Connie. Kate asks about Starr and how she doesn’t want Starr to come after him. Sonny says Todd knows the truth.

Kate says Todd is a powerful man, but Sonny says they came to an agreement. Todd doesn’t want to punish her since he understands her disease. Kate is surprised that Sonny did all of this for her. Sonny says she didn’t betray him, Connie did. Sonny tells her that she needs to focus on getting better. What happened was an accident. After Sonny leaves, Kate looks in the mirror and sees Connie’s reflection.

Michael runs into Starr and tells her to ask her father who really killed Hope and Cole, since he knows the truth. Starr doesn’t understand why her father wouldn’t have told her. Michael says his father is trying to protect someone, but doesn’t know who.

Tea and baby are brought into the hospital. Todd explains how she gave birth on the side of the road. Tea says she had a terrible feeling her baby was gone, but is grateful to the unknown woman and Todd for saving him. Steve says the baby is fine, but Tea wants a pediatrician to check him out, since he didn’t cry when he first came out. Pif takes the baby to be checked out.

Tea can’t believe how close her baby came to dying. She figures they can’t change the past, but maybe they can change the future. Todd says he has something to tell her but before he has a chance, Starr calls and he tells her that Tea had the baby.

Heather tells an unconscious Sam that fate brought them together and that she’ll never know the difference. She leaves Baby Delgado in the planter’s box and runs off, when she hears Jason calling out Sam’s name.

Olivia can’t find Heather and leaves a voice message for Steven. Heather shows up. Olivia demands to know where she’s been. Heather claims she went to Kelly’s, but Olivia says it’s closed. Heather asks if Olivia is calling her a liar, then talks about going to the Floating Rib. She mentions Jason and Franco. Olivia says Franco was a sick freak and Heather freaks out and grabs her.

Heather says not to insult Franco because he’s a genius. She then mutters about Maggie, calling her crazy and look where she is now. She thinks people need to be nice to her because karma happens and Sam paid for it. Olivia’s confused, but Heather says those who mess with her get messed in return.

Olivia says Steve trusted her to keep an eye on Heather. Steve shows up worried about Heather, who assures him she’s fine and that Olivia overreacted.

Jason finds Sam on the floor as she’s coming to. She says she left to find help and asks about the baby. She says she left him outside. Jason goes outside and finds the baby and realizes that he’s dead. He holds the baby and tells him that they were right, that as soon as he held him, he knew he would love him. Jason wonders how he’ll tell Sam.

Tea talks to her daughter on the phone and then asks Todd again what he wanted to tell her. Steve and Epiphany come back with the baby and declare him perfect although under weight. Tea asks if that’s why he didn’t cry when he was born, but Steve says the baby is healthy considering he’s early. Todd interrupts before Tea can question that further and says nothing matters now, since the baby is fine. Tea bonds with the baby and wonders who he looks like.

Starr arrives to see Tea and the baby. She is surprised to hear that Todd helped deliver him. Starr tells Todd that she’s happy for Tea, but the baby reminds her of Hope. Starr tells her father to tell her what he really knows about who caused the accident. Todd admits that it was Kate.

Sam says she wants to hold her son. She wants to see him, but Jason tells her he’s gone, he’s died. Sam cries and yells at him that it isn’t true and wonders why Jason would say that to her. She wants to hold the baby. Jason gives her the baby. Sam pulls back the blanket and says the baby isn’t hers.

47 Responses

  1. Profile photo of Perkie
    Perkie

    I can’t stand JaSam and I despise Jason and yet I’m furious that someone else is bonding with their baby. Maybe it’s more about my dislike for Shrieking Tea or the fact that the giant headed baby is abso-freakin-lutely adorable, but I want to protect him from all the loonies.

    The Jason/Sam scenes were almost the exact same as when she lost Sonny’s baby. It was gripping then, this time, not so much.

    I know the rumor is that no one will believe Sam and they all blame grief, but there are tests that can be done to prove her right or wrong, as the case may be. Plus, they’ll have to do an autopsy to see the cause of death, so they can do a test then, can’t they.

    Good to see Ewen back alive and kicking, but I was really hoping to see some chemistry between him and Liz, and I just wasn’t feeling it, which is odd because I find she oozes chemistry with a lot of the guys. Maybe it’s because he’s was in a hospital gown and head bandage. That’s never a good look for anyone.

    Heather honey, crazy only works if you don’t let everyone in on your brand of crazy. Talking about Maggie, who is now dead and Sam, who, I’m sure Olivia will read about the baby’s death will only make Olivia more suspicious. And if she takes out Olivia, even Steven as dumb as a box of rocks that he is, will wonder why all the women in his life are dropping like flies since good old Mom came home.

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    pjc722

    The worst part of about this is that Todd knowingly stole a baby and not to help anyone but himself. It’s the most EVIL thing that a character could do and puts him no higher than Johnny for causing the death of Todd’s granddaughter. He doesn’t know Sam yet took her healthy baby because he, and he alone, thought it was the right thing to do.

    AGAIN, the character of Todd does not know Sam so his motivation to switch the babies based on what a woman does not know either… Heather… is the most a stretch even on a soap opera.

    I wonder how the new regime will work this conclusion out.

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    SoapyBitch

    Perkie, have you ever been on the podcast? I know years ago they would have other additional individuals, aside from the core 5 that rotate now, and I wonder if you were one of those contributors. I don’t agree with all your opinions, but I actually like that and I would love to hear you articulate your thoughts on the podcast. I’m not one for debate club, but I love it when it’s about soaps.

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    GHteenybopper

    Jonathan Jackson’s and Becky Herbst’s scene in the hospital when Jake died had no sound and was 10 million times better than whatever it was that Steve Burton and Kelly Monaco were doing. I don’t know if it’s because I hate Jason right now, or I think this storyline is unnecessary, but I was not moved at all. Steve Burton is pretty, but he kinda sucks. I just hope they don’t make this whole thing about how Jason feels, cause I don’t give a rat’s ass about what Jason feels anymore.

    I still love all things Heather, she’s so off her rocker it’s fun to watch. I’m not for violence, but this is gh we’re talking about so I wouldn’t be upset if Heather offed Olivia, but then again that might mean less Steven Lars on our screen, and the dude who plays Steven Lars is nice to look at.

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    TV Gord

    [quote=pjc722]The worst part of about this is that Todd knowingly stole a baby and not to help anyone but himself. It’s the most EVIL thing that a character could do and puts him no higher than Johnny for causing the death of Todd’s granddaughter. [/quote]

    An argument could be made that Todd did what he did to help Téa, but he did MUCH worse on OLTL. Todd delivered Blair’s baby, Jack Manning, thinking someone else was the father! And because he wasn’t the baby-daddy, he told Blair the baby was stillborn and gave him away! Now, THAT was PURE evil!

    (The joke was on Todd, though. It turned out the baby WAS his…but that’s a story for another time…)

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    sassysdreams

    Kelly Monaco gave a BRILLIANT performance today!!!!! :love: :love:

    RM’s Heather is beyond crazy! She is pure evil incarnate!!!

    As for Todd, Tea and Starr. Please go back to Llanview as quickly as possbile and don’t ever come back!!!

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    Tris Drake

    Why is Ewen not dead? Unless he’s Jerry’s evil son and does every scene in his his underwear,I’m good. This is classic Todd. When he said he hated Victor but never Tea,I was a mess.

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    ANGELWENDY15

    I agree. I hope this doesn’t turn into another poor Jason story. He didn’t want to be part of the baby’s or Sam’s life and suddenly at the last minute he wants to be there when it’s too late. I just want Sam to get away from Jason once and for all. So tired of her begging him and he treating her like dirt under his shoes. Kelly (Sam) is a beautiful, sexy woman, which she showed as Olivia on Port Charles. I never liked how they wrote the character on GH, she was always the loser, the slut. I hope eventually Sam will get together with John, who treats her with respect and looks at her- well, so sexy!

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    mipeony

    Yeah I think I have officially joined the team that sees why they call this guy Reron. Seriously the scene between Sam and poor, poor, put upon Jason was a repeat of the last time her baby died, and the only thing missing from that scene where Jason held the dead baby was Elizabeth watching from the waiting area.

    I don’t care a lick about Jason’s pain, I only care about Sam’s pain and that of Alexis and Molly, who fully supported Sam when Jason would not. Was that performance supposed to begin his whitewash? Not for me. When he goes crying to Liz, Sonny, and Carly about this, will he add in the part about how he had McBain dealt with as McBain was trying to get Sam help for her child? I hope we get to see Alexis in full mama bear mode soon.

    I want Heather to off Olivia before too long. I think the fact that Heather likes to brag is going to be her undoing. I still say it’s more than just Sam not delivering the letter. She’s reacting too much when people mention Franco…. Sam, Monica, Tracey, and now Olivia. There’s another angle in here somewhere that is coming from way before the letter business. If I hear BLT or Steven Lars one more time, I’m going to hurl.

    It was good to see Liz and Ewen, but I’d rather see them off having a good time rather than sitting in a hospital room talking. The timing of the scene was way off though, it’s been what a week or more since Patrick told her he was awake and asking for her?

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    Ravennite613

    Perkie wrote “The Jason/Sam scenes were almost the exact same as when she lost Sonny’s baby. It was gripping then, this time, not so much. ”

    Thank you…I thought it was me. Maybe because we know the baby is not dead or maybe because the first time I actually gave a rat’s ass about JaSam. Whatever it was KeMo and SBu don’t do it for me in scenes anymore..I think I would have like to see her and ME in the same scene.

    While I watched OLTL sparingly I was never invested in any of the characters, I knew the players but not all the back stories and while I did not like TSJ version of Todd even I felt bad that his child is possibly dead.

    I want a story for Liz because 24-7 of Baby Crisis 2012 is going to make me go Heather crazy

    For me Todd has done horrible things and I truly see a man conflicted, he never wanted to leave Sam in the cabin but Heather told him to go. He doesn’t really know Heather’s history and while yes she had Anthony in a wheel barrel, Todd has no idea of her true crazy.

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    FaisonFanInTexas

    IF Tea’s baby is dead, it’s probably from perforated ear drums from having to listen to her SCREAM constantly.

    Apparently Ferncliff doesn’t serve the patients bacon and Heather is making up for lost time! :)

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    soapfan616

    I was never a Sam fan. I could tolerate her as a villainess but as Frons’ vision of a good stand by your man fair maiden, she made me sick.

    But one thing that this near year long beat down of her character has done for me is that I now dream of Sam fighting back. I really want Sam to kick ass and take names later. If these writers have any sense (which is a BIG if), they’ll use the grief from this terrible story line to turn Sam into a powerful woman.

    But who am I kidding? This will be about Jason’s grief and how he gets over it. Uggghhh…it’s so hard caring about a show that doesn’t care about women.

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    soapbaby

    [quote=Tris Drake]Why is Ewen not dead? Unless he’s Jerry’s evil son and does every scene in his his underwear,I’m good. This is classic Todd. When he said he hated Victor but never Tea,I was a mess.[/quote]

    ^^^ICAM. Ewen is just dead space. While the actor is very pretty, he has no presence and stilted line delivery. I wish Ewen had never come out of his coma but since he has, I wish for Liz to have a hot romp with him before he exits Port Charles. Wishful thinking.

    I love Tea and Todd. Yes, Florecia Lozano can be shouty and Roger Howarth can be one-note but I thought they were subtle and quite moving. Unlike his previous baby-switch on OLTL, Todd isn’t motivated by hatred but rather guilt for Tea’s pain and care for Tea’s happiness. Still VERY wrong.

    I only like Steven Lars in doctor-mode and have zero interest in his personal life. Luckily, Heather comprises most of his personal life these days and she is very watchable! I enjoyed the Heather-Olivia scenes despite Heather being SO blatant about her crimes. That was silly. Also, I never saw Heather in her original run in the 80’s, was she always this religious? Quite a few Biblical references in the episode.

    FFWDed Michael/Starr, Sonny/Kate and Jason/Sam. Three chemistry-free pairings. So sick and of Sam (crying.)

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    JASAMMABBY

    I loved Kelly- she totally had me tearing up!! I was also struck by how young she looked.. Though I feel she is getting the JJ treatment right now. She has done all the heavy emotional lifting in this story for months. From saving Jason with Patrick, dealing with Robin, the paternity test and so on. She must be truly exhausted… My girl has rocked it- I am so happy that the writers can see what a gem she is and are totally using her.

    I get that if you are a Todd fan from before you see his motivation- or if you loved Tea you feel her pain. I just can’t get there because to me they are like day players. I know nothing of their past and I hate watching Tea with Sams baby- and I swear that adorable baby has Sam’s nose..

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    stefanstavros

    Apparently Ferncliff doesn’t serve the patients bacon and Heather is making up for lost time! :)[/quote]

    LOLOLOL No lie right! Every time that woman runs into Olivia or Steve she’s talking about running to Kelly’s for a BLT!!!!!! Hilarious!

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    akg670

    This entire story line has me angry! I was hoping that the new regime would bring life back into General but it hasn’t…
    Sam has wanted a baby for a long time and GH viewers have seen her go through that torment of not being able to have children, then the surgery to ‘fix this issue’, then just to get pregnant from a rape (even though it’s Jason’s baby). Now after all that- the baby switch and we have to watch Sam go through another baby dying. This is absolute crap and I hope this story doesn’t drag on forever or they will most likely lose a lot of viewers. They had the opportunity to reform Jason, make him more human with the ‘joys’ of having a child, what that would mean for them, have some funny humorous scenes about changing diapers, Mr. Tough getting spit up on, etc…but the entire rape story was all about Jason’s feelings, not Sam’s.
    Sam and John together are better at the moment than Sam and Jason. They are ruining Jason’s character and he is not changing or evolving as a character or person. I mean even Sonny is growing and offering forgiveness with the Kate/Connie storyline. By the time they reform Jason it will be too late, the viewers will hate him and they won’t want Jason and Sam to be together anymore. They need to turn this around quickly- all GH is doing is killing off kids- Jake, Hope and now Sam’s/Tea’s baby. Enough with the killing of kids!!
    And speaking of Jake, Jason had absolutely nothing to do with Jake when he was alive and now that he’s dead, he and Elizabeth are all about him- that makes no sense to have him not a part of his kids like when he was alive but now bring him in after the fact…so stupid! It’s just because they need a reason to bring Jason and Elizabeth together but again, been there, done that.

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    Perkie

    [quote; pjc722]The worst part of about this is that Todd knowingly stole a baby and not to help anyone but himself. It’s the most EVIL thing that a character could do and puts him no higher than Johnny for causing the death of Todd’s granddaughter.[/quote]

    I’m going to disagree with this. I don’t know Todd since I didn’t watch OLTL, but he was really sort of caught between a rock and a hard place. He’s killed Tea’s husband, she despises him, he helps her give birth but then the baby dies and all he wants is to make things up to her for the pain he’s caused her. Along comes Heather who seems to be offering up a solution and he goes with it. I don’t think he thought it through. He certainly looked torn up about it in the hospital and seemed as though he wanted to tell the truth, but one thing led to another and too much time passed. Now, i’m hoping he does the right thing and tells Tea the truth and doesn’t let her find out some other way.

    [quote; mipeony]I think the fact that Heather likes to brag is going to be her undoing. I still say it’s more than just Sam not delivering the letter. [/quote]

    I don’t think so. Heather’s brand of crazy is such that not delivering the letter is enough to do what she’s doing. Plus her trigger word seems to be ‘crazy’.

    I really, really really want Sam to find out that Jason had John beaten up and that’s why he didn’t come back with the car to take her to the hospital and blames Jason for the baby’s death and throws him to the curb where she should have tossed him months ago.

    Oh, and I want a pony!

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    mipeony

    Yeah Perkie, it’s possible that yes she is that crazy, but I’m thinking Heather is going to turn out to be Franco’s real mother. She just gets too upset when anyone has any negative thing to say about Franco.

    Once she finds out about the beating up John thing, I want Sam to go back to the penthouse and burn Jason’s box of pain in the fireplace. LOL! hahahahahahaahaha!

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    Perkie

    [quote; mipeony]but I’m thinking Heather is going to turn out to be Franco’s real mother. [/quote]

    That could be interesting. It would certainly show that crazy doesn’t fall far from the tree!! But why tell Sam that he’s Jason’s twin? Oy, my head hurts thinking of all the possiblities.

    As for getting upset, like I say her trigger is the word crazy. The minute it looked like Olivia was going to say that Franco was crazy, she jumped all over her.

    [quote]I want Sam to go back to the penthouse and burn Jason’s box of pain in the fireplace [/quote]

    Can she smack him in the head with it first? A couple of times? And then kick him in the family jewels for good measure? Becuase I’d pay to see that, everyday and twice on Sundays. And just for good measure, line up Spinelli and Sonny to follow Jason. There, I’ve just made myself happy with the visual. Bring on today’s episode!!

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    mipeony

    I’d like to see that too… but let’s put Luke in the kicking line up too! Maybe Sam could call Liz over and every time Sam kicks one, Liz could follow it up with one of her good slaps to his face! Oomph! Ker plow!

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    TV Gord

    mipeony, that is a genius plot twist! Heather as Franco’s mom! I LOVE IT! The crazier Robin Mattson gets, the happier I am. Mwahahahahaaha!

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    Punky

    Monday’s show: While most of the plot was unrealistic I felt the scenes were where Tea finds Todd with the baby, Todd tries to tell Tea about the death and Heather interrupts Todd, were well written and played. Florencia Lozano, Roger Howarth and Robin Mattison did an excellent job.

    Tea bonding with Sam’s baby is heartbreaking to watch because they are just setting Tea up for a bigger fall when she finds out the truth. It is so sad that after those awesome TNT scenes, their chemistry is going
    to get wasted on another lie. Will Todd and Tea ever catch a break? What
    was the point of Todd delivering Tea’s baby if he was going to turn around
    and do something that will only bring Tea more heartache and pain? It sucks that after a few scenes, my old TNT are gone again.

    [quote=Perkie] Now, i’m hoping he does the right thing and tells Tea the truth and doesn’t let her find out some other way.[/quote]

    I hope this is what happens because its the only way I see Tea handling it in a better way

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    Phoenix Tremayne

    Have you ever watched one life to live, um this is Classic Todd Manning, remember this is the man that sold his own son Jack, whom he thought was not his, to another couple. He’s forever doing really bad things that tortures Blair and Tea and they keep coming back for more.

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    Phoenix Tremayne

    I’ve loved Heather Mathison on General Hospital, Santa Barbara, All My Children and now on General Hospital again, my only fear is that she’s so crazy that she will be written into a corner and find herself dead or back in the nut house. Soaps need great soap villains, I know we love the heroes, but heroes are measured by the villains the triumph over. The greater the villain the greater the hero. If all our soap character were happy all the time, we’d be bored, stop watching and the last four soaps would die a quick death. I do however understand that GH must constantly show it’s hand and let loose it’s bag of tricks to keep the stories going and keep people watching or to get people to watch, or else it risk cancellation.

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    isiola

    This story is like a piece of Swiss cheese…so full of holes it is pathetic!
    1. The walls are paper thin in the boarding room..yet Sam did not hear Jason
    2. Since when is Rubys near that shed
    3′. Tea &baby do not have blood tests when entering hospital
    4. Todd is a useless Bastard with no conscience
    5. The writers should not prolong this storyline.
    6. Get rid of Heather…she is terrible!

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    JASAMMABBY

    @ Phoenix- no I never watched OLTL.. So I don’t know classic Todd. Don’t know Blair or Tea. It’s hard for me to get on their side of emotions.. Since you have can you answer one thing- I keep hearing that Victor was alive at the end of the finale.. I am confused- is Tea’s husband Victor and is he dead or not?? Sorry if this has been answered before- but like I said never watched the show. It’s all empty dialogue to me…

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    JASAMMABBY

    No- why would I lie about that. I have watched GH since a kid it was in the 2:00 slot after school. I know of vague stories of characters like Vicky, Bo and Asa because when I was younger I would occasionally see it. I honestly have not watched it in like 13 years. I never watched it regular to begin with. Why would being a GH lover have to make you a OLTL lover to?? Why should I have to know these characters or their back stories?? Why is it so shocking that some of us didn’t watch the whole block of soaps??

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    TV Gord

    What puzzles me is why some people are so dismissive to the OLTL characters. Why not just treat them as though they are any other new characters to the show? At some point, even the most beloved GH characters were new to the show, too. Now, they are beloved. It seems–for some people–the OLTL characters arrive at a deficit. They are going to be disliked no matter what. That’s just the way it seems to me.

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    JASAMMABBY

    I don’t treat them like that. To me it’s like some people think I should some how understand their motivations or totally side with them. My point is I am treating them as new people. If you watched a new person come on a show you have watched for years and take a characters baby you love and leave her for dead- well then what would you think of the new character?? If it was reveresed and you only loved OLTL and Sam came to your show and took Teas baby what would you be feeling?? One of your characters left Tea for dead with a crazy lady- what would you be feeling??

    That’s my point- I am treating them as new characters but automatically people think I should somehow understand them more than a newbie… Why would- I don’t get their “classic” behaviour…

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    Punky

    [quote=JASAMMABBY]@ Phoenix- no I never watched OLTL.. So I don’t know classic Todd. Don’t know Blair or Tea. It’s hard for me to get on their side of emotions.. Since you have can you answer one thing- I keep hearing that Victor was alive at the end of the finale.. I am confused- is Tea’s husband Victor and is he dead or not?? Sorry if this has been answered before- but like I said never watched the show. It’s all empty dialogue to me…[/quote]

    Tea believes Vic is dead but he is alive. He is being held by a crazy lady called Alison Perkins.

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    TV Gord

    I guess I’m not really the right person to be answering your questions, JASAMMABBY, because I don’t treat them as real people. I don’t care who kidnaps whose baby, because it’s all fictional. I just watch for the enjoyment. Sometimes I get enjoyment. Sometimes, I get fed up with the same stories recycled. Right now, I’m feeling a combination of both.

    I was enthusiastic about the OLTL characters merging with the GH characters, because I was hoping it would bring both audiences to GH and save the show. Instead, what I’m seeing is only lukewarm interest from OLTL fans who still resent ABC for making a sound business decision, and angry GH fans who somehow think if the OLTL characters didn’t come to the show, Lila would come back to life and get more airtime.

    What frustrates me is that I’m seeing fans of GH (and soaps in general) continuing to bitch and moan their show into extinction, instead of supporting anything that would keep the show on the air. It reminds me of the Campbell Soup heart healthy promotion, which drove soap fans to distraction with all the product placement. Well, that was ABC trying to keep the shows on the air. People ridiculed Shop The Soaps for its crass commercialism, but it was another effort of ABC to keep the shows on the air.

    Soap fans have rejected any attempts to keep the soaps viable at every turn, so my position has always been that when they are inevitably cancelled, you have no one to blame but yourselves.

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    marybee50

    TV Gord-sorry I’m not taking the blame.I watched OLTL thru some stupid stories,saw the ratings rise,watched Cartini bring it in under budget.Still guess what it was cancelled.If a network wants out,it will get out,whether it is daytime or nighttime shows it feels have outlived their usefulness.

    I’m watching 3 soaps now,while getting better in some instances,are still FF in some spots.I’m not adding a fourth when I do not believe the network is serious.And just to add,I never minded product placement,but I cannot tolerate what TPTB do to fans.

    So,no,I won’t take the blame if a network puts on crap,and expects me to accept it until they are done with genre.

    With that rant,I’m off to work.

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    TV Gord

    I always enjoy how people dismiss the ratings until it proves the point they want to make. I loved the Cartini period of OLTL, ratings be damned. It was fun to watch a soap for a while, there.

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    Perkie

    [quote; themustache]to the people who say they’ve never watched OLTL.
    are you lying or what?[/quote]

    Nope. Never saw a single episode. Also never saw an episode of GL or AMC. Why would someone lie about that?

    [quote; tvgord]What puzzles me is why some people are so dismissive to the OLTL characters. Why not just treat them as though they are any other new characters to the show [/quote]

    But they aren’t like other new characters to the show. They come with full fledged backgrounds and families that I don’t know or care about. They have full conversations about said backgrounds that I know nothing or care about. Everyone else who had been introduced didn’t behave the way these newbies do.

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    Perkie

    [quote; tvgord]think if the OLTL characters didn’t come to the show, Lila would come back to life and get more airtime [/quote]

    That would be difficult to do, since Anna Lee is dead. But it is true that OLTL characters are taking up airtime from GH characters. How many times have I seen Liz, Alexis or Patrick in the past 7 days? In that same time span, how many times have I seen Todd, Tea and McBain? You can’t say the OLTLers are not taking airtime away from GHers because they clearly are.

    [quote] Soap fans have rejected any attempts to keep the soaps viable at every turn [/quote]

    AND

    [quote]but it was another effort of ABC to keep the shows on the air.[/quote]

    Here’s a crazy thought, why not write stories that make sense, that have a beginning, middle and end, that involve people behaving somewhat normally. How about trying that to keep the show viable and on the air.

    Has everyone forgotten how to write a story that makes sense?

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    curacaoman

    Perkie, word! You are on a roll.

    I do not believe ABC has made or is making a serious effort to keep the shows on the air.

    If you want to save a genre (that you killed to begin with), you would look for innovation. I know it is farfetched, but I wish TeleMundo would take over the soaps!

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    TV Gord

    [quote=Perkie][quote; tvgord]think if the OLTL characters didn’t come to the show, Lila would come back to life and get more airtime [/quote]

    That would be difficult to do, since Anna Lee is dead. But it is true that OLTL characters are taking up airtime from GH characters. How many times have I seen Liz, Alexis or Patrick in the past 7 days? In that same time span, how many times have I seen Todd, Tea and McBain? You can’t say the OLTLers are not taking airtime away from GHers because they clearly are.

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    Really? You don’t think I know Anna Lee is dead? Way to miss the point of what I was saying.

    Okay, so OLTL characters are taking up airtime, but if they weren’t there, there would be other newbies taking up that airtime. If the writers wanted to write for the utterly dull Liz or Alexis or Patrick, they would be. They obviously don’t, so they are writing for these new characters. Liz, Alexis and Patrick were all newbies at one point, and they eventually became beloved characters. If some of you gave the OLTL characters a chance, it might happen again.

    If you don’t want to, that’s fine. The show will be cancelled, and you’ll get what you want, won’t you?

    No, wait… :-|

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    TV Gord

    [quote=curacaoman]Perkie, word! You are on a roll.

    I do not believe ABC has made or is making a serious effort to keep the shows on the air.

    If you want to save a genre (that you killed to begin with), you would look for innovation. I know it is farfetched, but I wish TeleMundo would take over the soaps![/quote]

    Of course ABC isn’t making a serious effort to keep the shows on the air. They want GH gone, because they can make more money with other shows. That’s all their shareholders care about. And here’s a newsflash that few soap fans seem to be able to absorb: shareholders are more important to business people than a dwindling number of soap viewers.

    I go back to what I wrote earlier. If GH fans would give OLTL characters a chance, and former OLTL viewers would take the stick out of their butts, they COULD build an audience that was big enough to force ABC to keep GH on the air.

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    Perkie

    [quote; tvgord]You don’t think I know Anna Lee is dead? Way to miss the point of what I was saying.[/quote]

    I was being sarcastic, since I figured soap people would know that she’s dead. Way to miss the point of what I was saying.

    [quote]The show will be cancelled, and you’ll get what you want, won’t you? [/quote]

    What I want is proper writing. I didn’t realize that was such a difficult order to ask for.

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    TV Gord

    You need to work on your sarcasm skills.

    I want proper writing, too. I’m not arguing that point. You and I agree there. I’m disappointed with what’s going on now, too.

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    pjc722

    People, people, what the writers had Todd do was the most EVIL thing he could have done besides Rape Marty all those years ago, steal his own child (though he didn’t know it) and give it away only to tell Blair it is dead, and then to go about his day as though he was in the right.

    The same will happen here. Todd stole a healthy child from one woman to give to another to CALM HIS OWN MIND. Not to help Tea. Not to help Sam. But to help Todd. I simply hate these stories where they use a solid character (though I am still in the camp that Llanview citizens should not be in Port Charles) and then in the end, if there will be an end to see with this show sitting on the edge of a cliff, Todd will somehow get off because either he will save Sam, dodge a bullet for Jason, blackmail Sonny, or sleep with the DA and then it will be back to the everyday with the character.

    I have no problem when a character like Heather or Alison Perkins over on OLTL steal a baby (not the actual theft but the one doing it) because they eventually go to prison because they are not written to be around long term but brought on to spice up life in the idyllic port city with a mob boss, a fashion maven, a few international spies and a business tycoon. With these types of characters they pay for their crimes whether it be by death or jail/psycho ward, they eventually end up paying.

    Todd will be discovered as the person who lied to Tea and Sam. He allowed Sam to have her world crushed and Tea to be lifted up HIGH as she has the last link to the man she loved (Todd’s brother) and then had it all taken away. In the end, the cops will have nothing to pin on him because the evidence will be tampered, Heather will be too nuts to testify against him or the show will just not have time to do a trial because it will be canceled.

    ALL IN ALL, this story won’t take long to tell because shows these days don’t have the luxury to drag the stories out for years at a time. I give this story til the end of the summer or 6 months tops if GH survives into September and beyond.

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    sallyv

    [quote=isiola]This story is like a piece of Swiss cheese…so full of holes it is pathetic!
    1. The walls are paper thin in the boarding room..yet Sam did not hear Jason
    2. Since when is Rubys near that shed
    3′. Tea &baby do not have blood tests when entering hospital
    4. Todd is a useless Bastard with no conscience
    5. The writers should not prolong this storyline.
    6. Get rid of Heather…she is terrible![/quote]

    1. Sam and John are not staying at the boarding house. They are in a “new” motel…I read somewhere it’s called Rendezvous Motel. I guess it must be on the edge of town since you walk out the door and you’re in the woods?
    2. And near the cabin/shed.
    3. That’s General Hospital for you. Since when have they ever done anything properly?
    4. I totally agree
    5. I totally agree
    6. Nope…not enjoying Heather this time around…for the most part. Although I must admit, when I’m not FFing her scenes, she does occasionally come up with some good stuff. Loved how she was basically telling “dumb as a box of rocks” Olivia all her crimes.

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    stoney07

    Personally I watched OLTL during the “Cartini” era, and I hated it. I liked it a lot before that….anyway, I agree a little with both sides…

    Viewers who only watched GH will NOT be interested in OLTL characters that share scenes and talk about their history in Llanview. I’m pretty sure it’s annoying at best. And while I’m no huge fan of GH, I find it slightly annoying that the writers expect GH viewers to know what the hell these characters are talking about, or the fact that perhaps they expect us to care enough to look up those OLTL stories. For me, they were AWFUL on that show, and I don’t necessarily want to go back and “relive the magic”…

    On the OTHER hand, I somewhat agree that we should kind of give these shows a chance. Everyone knows I’m a Y&R die-hard fan and I will watch the show at all costs, and the blatant negativity towards the show from this site gets on my nerves. Every spoiler, every conversation, every comment from mostly EVERYONE points out how horrible the show is, even when it is improving (like now)…it’s almost as if one bad storyline impacts the entire show and we never get to hear a positive comment about ANYTHING. *ANNOYING*
    So yeah, I think we should support the shows, and that doesn’t mean go along with everything that is seen. We all have different opinions about things, but constant negativity and not watching isn’t helping these shows out. It’s pretty obvious now that these networks are not interested in getting new fresh writers…so tuning out is only going to get the shows cancelled.

    So I guess I’m on both sides of the fence here….meh…

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