HomeTVCBSThe Young and the Restless Spoilers: Tragedy Strikes on Phick’s Wedding Day! Jillian Bowe June 7, 2012 CBS, News, Soap Opera, Soap Opera Spoilers, The Young and The Restless, The Young and the Restless Spoilers 65 Comments Nick and Phyllis' Wedding Day Turmoil: The Newman playboy and Red pray their wedding day will go smoothly; too bad they live in Genoa City! Nikki still isn't keen on her son getting re-hitched to Phyllis so soon, but she holds her tongue, and even helps out with wedding plans. Noah stands up for his dad as best man. Nick informs Victor that Sharon is not welcome at the nuptials. Phyllis tells Daniel the same thing re: Daisy. Victor agrees to his son's request and attends the affair solo. That doesn't stop Sharon from crashing the affair! Nick lets Sharon know she is persona non grata, but she balks at leaving, claiming she's Victor's date. Victor is shocked by Sharon's audacity. As Phyllis starts to get ready, Daisy arrives. She attempts to sway her mother-in-law into letting her attend the wedding. The psycho thinks she should be included as Daniel's wife and Lucy's mom. Phyllis refuses to back down, leading to a heated confrontation. Once Daisy leaves, Phyllis doubles over with adominal pains. Daisy hears Phyllis in distress, but decides to ignore her! Nick starts to get worried when Phyllis doesn't show up for the wedding. He heads over to the penthouse and discovers his bride-to-be on the floor. Nick rushes Phyllis to the hospital, where the doctors inform them Phyllis has lost the baby. A heartbroken Phyllis puts the blame squarely (and rightfully so) on Daisy's shoulders. Nick sends word to the guests at GloWorm. Phyllis confides to Nick that her current misfortunes are the result of the bad things she's done in her past. Victor/Nikki: The Black Knight and his lady love decide to bury the hatchet. Abby: The Naked Heiress gets into some publicity trouble and asks Carmine for help. Daniel/Daisy: The artist and the milquetoast psycho's marriage hits the skids. Tucker/Genevieve: The rebel billionaire assists the mob moll. 65 Responses Bartman202 June 7, 2012 Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z!!! This shizz needs to get better and less predictable – poor writing all around… Why is Carmine still around?!? Such an unnecessary character, as well as all the characters created by this writing regime – no wonder I barely watch it once a week!! Log in to Reply Scout June 7, 2012 Tragedy has struck this show damn near every day for the past four years. Log in to Reply soapjunkie88 June 7, 2012 The Phyllis hour continues… :Sp I don’t understand why Phyllis had to end up pregnant again in the first place. Phyllis had a miracle baby. And her relationship with Nick continues to suck the life out of her. Why would Sharon want to go to Phyllis and Nick’s wedding if she wasn’t even invited or picked up by Victor? MAB really does not know how to write for her and keeps on at destroying her. |( I’m not even the least bit interested in the rest. BORING!!!! :tired: Log in to Reply MsAgentProvocateur1 June 7, 2012 Who didn’t see this coming? PREDICTABLE. And what’s to come doesn’t sound any more enticing. Maybe TPTB should consider broadcasting this show 2-3 times a week or on a 13 week cycle or something. Doesn’t even seem like they can come up with enough storyline material that’s of interest for this show now. The best thing would be to get new writers, but we know that’s probably not going to happen. They are laying waste to this show in a hurry these days! Log in to Reply Ryan-Scott June 7, 2012 Another week with nothing mentioned for Billy. Oh what the hell… Log in to Reply pjc722 June 7, 2012 I loved the glimmer of hope that the character of Phyllis would return to her evil ways from back in the day. Granted with Daisy on the canvas and even Ricky, having phyllis return to that way of life while chasticing the dumb evil doers would be like the pot calling the kettle RED. I am hoping that the show opts to send Phyllis down the evil path … not KILLER Evil, just bitchy evil … once Ricky and Daisy are off the canvas in a month or so. It would add so much more dynamic to the show having her return to that part of her life without having to worry about the acceptance of a man. I would love to see the character/actress stop screeching her lines or yelling them. The power of being POWERFUL is not to scream every chance you get to prove that you are stronger. Phyllis should take a cue from Victor who only BARKS when it’s called for. (Lately, though, it seems once a week) Log in to Reply Miry June 7, 2012 I called it! Log in to Reply tedew June 7, 2012 pjc722 … if Michelle took a cue from Hans then she’d be reading all of her lines off of her BlackBerry or Smartphone. Anyway … Y&R is really just like Russia … just rewrite history! Log in to Reply Dyllan June 7, 2012 They need to give MS a 6 month vacation. Her character just annoys me. I use to lover her, but she’s just annoying. Why would Sharon’s ass go to the wedding. I don’t get it. Sharon was never that kind of person. That’s something Phyllis would do. Abby and Carmine have zero chemistry. Log in to Reply ER Writer June 7, 2012 So off topic, but why are they still putting all that grease in Joshua Morrow’s hair? Log in to Reply alstonboy4315 June 7, 2012 I cant’ stand the redheaded virus, but I am sick of soaps killing off all these babies. A miscarriage here, a miscarriage there…..another miscarriage……… It happens so frequently now that I find it disturbing. I remember back when writers didn’t do this kind of thing every five seconds, which made it all the more heart-wrenching. Ron C. and Maria just LOVE killing people off willy-nilly………… :tired: :tired: :tired: :tired: :tired: Log in to Reply Yoryla June 7, 2012 I would never wish for a miscarriage on anyone, but in this case Phyllis deserves to lose her baby. She never should have been written pregnant in the first place. Wasn’t the remarriage alone enough? Log in to Reply The_Moustache June 7, 2012 Michelle Stafford IS ALWAYS in every damn storyline and is in every episode of the week, WHY!?!? remember a long time ago when Phyllis was only on 2 times a week for only 15 minutes max?! Log in to Reply arielade June 7, 2012 [quote=Yoryla]I would never wish for a miscarriage on anyone, but in this case Phyllis deserves to lose her baby. She never should have been written pregnant in the first place. Wasn’t the remarriage alone enough?[/quote] Ouch! Log in to Reply alstonboy4315 June 7, 2012 The_Moustache– She’s gotta get some material for her 12,000th Best Actress Emmy nomination. Log in to Reply Camp is not a sustainable model June 8, 2012 @everyone: The writers and the actress seem to think that somehow Phyllis is the heart and soul of Y&R. Like she’s the Susan Lucci, Deirdre Hall, Kim Zimmer or Susan Flannery of this soap. Granted she is a decent actress. But she is not driving Y&R to some ratings high. I mean the last time I remember, the only one who tested as high as Eric Braeden in the polls was Victoria Rowell. And not too long ago Y&R saw a little ratings spike (not much) when Melody Thomas Scott returned from her unforeseen backburning. Heck all of the actresses I named above did not like to be overworked. Susan Lucci took 6 weeks off a year during the spring to do other projects. Deidre Hall took the summer months off (as per her contract agreement) to spend with her kids. Kim Zimmer would say in interviews that she was happy when she returned to GL that she was not the sole focus of the show. That gave her more time for her life. And Flannery was also one who spoke out about being used too much. Michelle Stafford though won’t be happy until Y&R is a one woman show where all of the characters are in her head and she plays them all live before a studio audience. Yet back in the day Bill Bell (and this was carried on by Jack Smith) had the characters on Y&R in a good rotation. If there were 20 episodes a month average they had each character have about 7 episodes a month when their storyline was not at its peak or they were a supporting player. And only when the story reached a dramatic height would the actors character appear on-air 5 days week during that time period. They knew how to bring balance to show. Even Eric Braeden was not overused. Also characters were not in every story. Yet they may cross over into other stories when the storyline dictated it. Like if Micheal had to take on a case or Olivia was covering a medical crisis. Sometimes even they had a character blackmail the other for a legitimate gain. But as of now with Phyllis, its like she is in every storyline. If Jack goes to the bathroom she has to pop up out of the shower to say some words. If Kevin gets a traffic ticket she has to be meter-maid to hand him the ticket. If the police come to investigate Adam she has to wear uniform and be the investigator. Did I also forget to add that she will be performing weddings, Bar Mitzvah’s and be a temporary recast for male and female characters when they are sick. And anytime now she’ll be put in blackface and in dual role as Phyllis and Dru. That means she’ll be trying to get an Emmy and a NAACP Image Award. Log in to Reply timepass June 8, 2012 I like MS as an actress but the scene where she looses the baby was so over the top; not even remotely credible. I am a fan but too much is too much. MAB really needs an intervention, her writing suck more every day. Some get better at writing, she gets better at sucking! Lol Log in to Reply Camp is not a sustainable model June 8, 2012 @timepass: How do you think she got her job? Log in to Reply RebeccaJ June 8, 2012 I am sick of every pregnant female who gets into an argument on the soaps miscarrying. It’s so predictable and I knew when I saw Daisy and Phyllis arguing today, she was going to lose that kid. Ugh. Log in to Reply The_Moustache June 8, 2012 and why is Phyllis blaming Daisy for?! who the heck forced her to get into an argument/confront/attack Daisy in the first place???!!!! girlfriend should look in the mirror if she’s looking for someone to blame. Log in to Reply MsAgentProvocateur1 June 8, 2012 If the writers had been paying any attention to the Phyllis character’s timeline (which is a shock that they don’t since from what everyone says, she is on enough to explore every minutiae of her existence), they would have known that Phyllis should’ve been a very high risk pregnancy at best. I can remember when she had problems even carrying a child to term (remember that?) until she had a miracle baby and all was forgotten about her dangerous history with pregnancy. It is downright strange that she would become pregnant with absolutely no recognition of her medical history. It was so obvious that having Phyllis miscarry was what was on the writers minds to manipulate (or try to) the viewer to feel so badly for the character that somehow they would ignore the fact that she will never pay any time for the crime. Makes one sort of curious as to what really goes on in that Writer’s Room. Log in to Reply timepass June 8, 2012 Good one david46208 lol As for Phyllis she was already all over the place before Daisy arrived and she got so,emotional with Daisy I was pretty sure that her next trick would be forbher head to do a 360 degrees! But she will never own up to her side of thing; except to make a point or to get someone to feel sorry for her. Log in to Reply The_Moustache June 8, 2012 this is a the same show that had Ashley Abbott get pregnant AFTER she underwent chemo/radiation for cancer, had a full hysterectomy, etc. Log in to Reply soapjunkie88 June 8, 2012 [quote=david46208]Michelle Stafford though won’t be happy until Y&R is a one woman show where all of the characters are in her head and she plays them all live before a studio audience.[/quote] When you look on Y&R you see like on no other soap opera which actors control this show. It’s gotten to the point where it only hurts the show. Phyllis is everywhere and I don’t think there is a day where MS is not working. It’s ridiculous. She is no Susan Flannery, Susan Lucci or Deidre Hall. And it pains me to see that Phyllis is constantly on the air playing heroine while other characters like Sharon are thrown under the bus. What did Sharon Case do to TPTB that the writing for her character is completely off? I don’t understand what happens behind the scenes of this show anymore. Victor and Sharon don’t prove popular, viewers are outraged about a fake marriage but MAB has to throw this pairing in our face for a second time just because EB likes to work with SC and somehow wants to keep Victor young by having a woman on his side that could be his daughter. He already did this once with Sabrina and it didn’t work. Now he ruined Victor’s relationship with Sharon. And then there is this new star of the show – Phyllis Newman. Who’s in her late 40s, already had a miracle baby but then they go for this type of sl again. Why not mention her age? Because the actress has a problem with it and very publicly calls her fans idiots if they address Phyllis’ age. What a class act. The same class act who spits on a co-star but somehow becomes the center of this show. Where are the days that people like William Bell, Douglas Marland, Agnes Nixon or Gloria Monty headed these soap operas and the actors did nothing else but act??? It’s sad what happened to Y&R. This once iconic soap is in an awful state and next to Maria Arena Bell, who rather lets anyone else run this show to go to some opening, an actor or two are as responsible as she is. Log in to Reply alstonboy4315 June 8, 2012 TheM_Moustache– Did Ashley have a hysterectomy?? Log in to Reply yojoromo4469 June 8, 2012 [quote=ER Writer]So off topic, but why are they still putting all that grease in Joshua Morrow’s hair?[/quote] DISGUSTING, ISN’T IT? Log in to Reply yojoromo4469 June 8, 2012 [quote=Yoryla]I would never wish for a miscarriage on anyone, but in this case Phyllis deserves to lose her baby. She never should have been written pregnant in the first place. Wasn’t the remarriage alone enough?[/quote] You really got this right. Why in the hell they need another baby on this show is beyond me. Besides, Phyllis should be considered too old to be pregnant anyhow. Log in to Reply DenverDean June 8, 2012 The fact that TPTB decided to make Phyllis pregnant was beyond me. It was a completely unnecessary beat to the story. They could’ve had false alarm and still had Nick propose to her. I guess they wanted to show how evil Daisy could be by having her ignore Phyllis doubling over. Perhaps, they wanted an easy way for Daniel to boot Daisy out. IDK. It could’ve been used to actually have Daisy show some humanity, but whatever. At least it wasn’t Ricky. Log in to Reply ER Writer June 8, 2012 [quote=yojoromo4469][quote=Yoryla]I would never wish for a miscarriage on anyone, but in this case Phyllis deserves to lose her baby. She never should have been written pregnant in the first place. Wasn’t the remarriage alone enough?[/quote] You really got this right. Why in the hell they need another baby on this show is beyond me. Besides, Phyllis should be considered too old to be pregnant anyhow.[/quote] I don’t even understand WHY Phick is getting married again? Who is supposed to care about this couple? Log in to Reply Mets82 June 8, 2012 As far as all this Phyllis hatred, Phyllis annoys me to no end sometimes but I wouldnt want her to lose the baby. I think Daisy is 10 times more annoying than Phyllis. Daisy walks around like nothing ever happened and she must have rocks in her head if she thinks her, Daniel and Lucy are going to be one happy family. Hell, I think Sharon is 10 times more annoying than Phyllis. Sharon has a lot of nerve showing up to the wedding when shes not wanted. Who does she think she is? You want to talk about somebody with no respect for anybody, what about Sharon? For the last year or two, shes done what she wanted, consequences be damned. Log in to Reply ChrisGa June 8, 2012 [quote=Mets82]As far as all this Phyllis hatred, Phyllis annoys me to no end sometimes but I wouldnt want her to lose the baby. I think Daisy is 10 times more annoying than Phyllis. Daisy walks around like nothing ever happened and she must have rocks in her head if she thinks her, Daniel and Lucy are going to be one happy family. Hell, I think Sharon is 10 times more annoying than Phyllis. Sharon has a lot of nerve showing up to the wedding when shes not wanted. Who does she think she is? You want to talk about somebody with no respect for anybody, what about Sharon? For the last year or two, shes done what she wanted, consequences be damned.[/quote] I agree with you, Phyllis is annoying as hell(though I still love Michelle Stafford)and I’ve been kinda done with her after the whole Lucy stunt w/Billy and Victoria, but Sharon’s dumb ass has her beat. Talk about completely assassinating a character; I literally wanted to throw up in my mouth at the end of yesterday’s ep when her eternal father-figure/ex father-in-law/future geriatric lover planted one on her. There has never been a day in the history of this show when Sharon would be considered the smartest person on the canvas but to say now that she’s the dumbest isn’t that far a stretch. Frankly, Eileen Davidson and Peter Porte getting fired may be the best thing that’s ever happened to either of them because Maria Arena Hell still doesn’t know what the fuck she’s doing with regards to running this show; a newborn infant in your local hospital could do a better job. Log in to Reply tori87dec June 8, 2012 I love the Tucker/Gen spoiler,he needs someone like Gen to keep him on his toes and get him back to the man he was before,not the broken hot mess he is now. They have a secret past and he obviously still has feelings for her so I’m hoping the writers have a great storyline coming up between two such fabulous actors as Genie and Stephen. They have the chemistry and Tucker needs some fun in his life and Gen would definitely provide some of that:) Log in to Reply The_Moustache June 8, 2012 when is Cane gonna be revealed as Tucker’s on?? Log in to Reply soapjunkie88 June 8, 2012 [quote=Mets82]As far as all this Phyllis hatred, Phyllis annoys me to no end sometimes but I wouldnt want her to lose the baby. I think Daisy is 10 times more annoying than Phyllis. Daisy walks around like nothing ever happened and she must have rocks in her head if she thinks her, Daniel and Lucy are going to be one happy family. Hell, I think Sharon is 10 times more annoying than Phyllis. Sharon has a lot of nerve showing up to the wedding when shes not wanted. Who does she think she is? You want to talk about somebody with no respect for anybody, what about Sharon? For the last year or two, shes done what she wanted, consequences be damned.[/quote] This big difference between Sharon and Phyllis? If Phyllis does something wrong she is either the victim or she’s done what she’s done out of profession or some revenge. Phyllis with all her mistakes is portrayed as the saint, who once ran over Christine and Paul but now must be protected from these kids, these psychopaths – who could show anyone how messed up Phyllis really is. But is this going to happen? No. Phyllis loses her child and the audience is to feel sorry for her once again, while we hate on Daisy. Phyllis has destroyed lives. Truly destroyed them. But who cares? She is the main heroine of this freakin’ town, right!? As with Sharon, we see a woman who has completely lost it after her daughter died. She is jumping from bed to bed and has the most inappropriate relationships. Why? I don’t know. Since they don’t explain what’s wrong with Sharon rather then letting her behave like the slut of this town …. have no idea. But what’s really annoying me isn’t even what she’s doing. It’s that MAB completely isolated this character. Sharon has NO ONE to talk anymore. Only the current man she sleeps with. Otherwise she is completely at the outs with no friends and every single one of these Genoa City residents picking on her. Maria must be sitting in the writer’s room and tell her stuff, “If you don’t have a good idea for today’s script, lets have someone bully Sharon”. That’s what really annoys me. That a character like Sharon is written like everyones trash while at the other end of the town, an attempted murderer and potential murderer is written as a heroine. Then there is to add the personal power either one of these actresses have. While you can see that the writers must be hating the character of Sharon and don’t care about the first ten years Sharon Case portrayed this character with a brain, they let Phyllis’ storylines partly be controlled by the actress. Nick and Avery? Ain’t happening. MAB backed down from that one. She rather “decided” to pair Nick with Phyllis again and have her even end up pregnant. Questions from the viewers if there isn’t any risks because of Phyllis’s age are ignored or as Michelle Stafford wrote herself are rude after she called one of her fans an idiot. How nice! You just know that something is wrong behind the scenes with these power plays. And slowly but surely they do their part in destroying this industry. Log in to Reply mpbach June 8, 2012 @david46208 I 100% agree with everything you wrote! I’m a Cane fan and I stopped watching Y&R a long time ago due to lack of airtime. It’s unfair to give 50% of the cast all the airtime and the rest gets nothing… I don’t want to support a show like this, deleted it from DVR… done with it! I’m sure I’m not the only one who thinks like this- a look at the ratings says it all! Log in to Reply mpbach June 8, 2012 soapjunkie88 I agree with you too Log in to Reply BetseyD June 9, 2012 I attribute it to some kind of Blackmail of one (or more!) of TIIC. Log in to Reply soapbaby June 9, 2012 The acting from both Michelle Stafford and Yvonne Zima was horrid in the Phyllis v. Daisy confrontation. Just awful. Log in to Reply otalia4ever June 9, 2012 When will the bleeding stop? The soras of Fen and Summers are horrible! There is way too much of Phyllis onscreen. I have been using my fast forward button pretty much the entire program. Yawnnnnn, storylines are repetitive. Too many musical chairs, too many “you got that”!, too many fake smiles from Billy, too much of Victoria, too many characters, too much of everything! It is just plain boring right now! Log in to Reply tedew June 9, 2012 Daisy really should not have left Phyllis in jeopardy. But Phyllis did unreasonably bring her exact clone back to town. I also doubt that Sharon would have shown up at the sacred ceremony had The Dowager Nikki not been so typically hypocritical and stuck up. But at least we have a new Heather who also can stand in for Lauren or in long shots for Phyllis. Plus there is nothing distracting about that “red” hair she’s sporting. Log in to Reply marybee50 June 9, 2012 Finished watching Y&R this morning and now I’m wondering why.First was the shock of the soras’d Somer(Summer?).I don’t know about this,I just keep shaking my head.Maybe the young lady will be good,but I miss the younger actress. Then Phyllis.Has no one every told her keep your friends close,buy your enemies closer.She has just become unbearable to watch.I was actually starting to feel sorry for Daisy.You know that is not good. And Sharon.When she and Victor got back together,I groaned out loud.Poor Sharon Case.There is no logical reason for her character to become this asinine. There was a blind item on a post awhile ago about writers having someone wake up from a dream,like Dallas.This show would definitely benefit from that.Maybe Katherine was still in a coma.Anything just to get this show back on track. Log in to Reply CarlyCfan June 9, 2012 I wish Phyllis had died with her spawn! Log in to Reply MsAgentProvocateur1 June 9, 2012 [quote=marybee50]There was a blind item on a post awhile ago about writers having someone wake up from a dream,like Dallas.This show would definitely benefit from that.Maybe Katherine was still in a coma.Anything just to get this show back on track.[/quote] Sadly this Blind Item has been put to Bed. I read that it is NOT going to happen. This show needs a new start but I doubt it will get one at this point. Log in to Reply ldylkng June 9, 2012 I bet MAB is CO$, that would explain the MS love! Soapjunkie, Totally agree! So sick of Phick! Would love for Nick to wake up and think with the head on his neck! And maybe I’m alone, but I liked Sharon with Sam. That was going a long way to redeeming her, and then MAB screwed that up. I am also loving Neil & Harmony! Neil can’t help but save the damsels in distress! “think Dru” Can’t wait for Sophia to be gone. Sarge needs some lovin, and Olivia does too. Does anybody else think it’s about time they get a story? I am so over Mean Victor! I loved that man for years! Now he doesn’t have even a shadow of a heart! In years past, you could understand why he did some of the things he did. Now they are writing him like Sonny Corinthos!”Well Sonny protects his kids though, and Victor is hurting his over and over! DAMN !!!! I wish MAB would give it up!! Log in to Reply Restless Vixen June 10, 2012 I don’t think Daisy should be blamed for Phyllis’ miscarriage. Damn, the woman is like 45 at least by now. MAB&Co can pretend Phyllis’ pregnancy is par for the course, but this is a woman who was told she would never have another kid after she tried unsuccessfully to conceive with Jack (way to recall show history MAB&Co!). She was lucky to have Summer with Nick, so this pregnancy was high risk to begin with based on age alone, nevermind her past fertility issues. I call bull on this entire plot point and the overuse of Phyllis the faux-heroine is one of the many reasons why this show has been off my DVR for over a month now. For all the talk of MS’s “Emmy reel”, she’s only won 2 awards. One for supporting back in the 90s (when she was a MUCH better actor) and one for lead in 2004, almost 10 years ago. Not to say Emmys are the be all/end all, but she’s far from being a soap icon. I personally think she’s one of the most overrated actors in daytime. If she were that great, her past attempts at primetime and film would have been more successful. She has become a scenery chewing piece of ham. Her “performance” on Ringer said it all. It was bad, very bad – it’s was BAD! Y&R is going straight to hell with some of the worst writing and feeble attempts to regain viewers on record. As Jamey called them in a previous podcast – End of Show Moves! The Victor and Phyllis show is one gigantic steaming pile of poo, and it will continue to be as long as these characters dominate the show. Sony and/or CBS better do something and fast before this show drops even further in the ratings. And the snatch and grabs from defunct soaps aint working! B&B is catching up in the target demos (Women 18-49 and Women 18-34), meanwhile Y&R is approaching below 4 million total viewers/3.2 household. And the ratings number for Friday June 1 was 2.9, which means less than 4 million viewers. Just to put it in perspective, the show used to consistently have well over 5 million total viewers around the time MAB became headwriter early 2009. The numbers don’t lie, folks! Log in to Reply tedew June 10, 2012 Restless Vixen … you are quite correct about Phyllis’ age since Ms. Stafford is just about 47 now. But what caused the miscarriage was much more her histrionics than anything else (and of course she should have listened to what Daisy was going to tell her rather than going off the deep end). Daisy should have responded to her obvious cries of distress but then that’s Daisy I suppose. Unfortunately Michelle is out Jeanne Coopering Jeanne Cooper at her most histrionic wall paper shredding abilities and it has just gotten really repetitive and annoying. Have not seen the immediate aftermath of that subtle little scene but it will be quite jarring to see an aged Summer suddenly appear on the scene. Doesn’t seem like an appropriate time to bring that on right now. Log in to Reply soapjunkie88 June 10, 2012 [quote=Restless Vixen]For all the talk of MS’s “Emmy reel”, she’s only won 2 awards. One for supporting back in the 90s (when she was a MUCH better actor) and one for lead in 2004, almost 10 years ago. Not to say Emmys are the be all/end all, but she’s far from being a soap icon. I personally think she’s one of the most overrated actors in daytime. If she were that great, her past attempts at primetime and film would have been more successful. She has become a scenery chewing piece of ham. Her “performance” on Ringer said it all. It was bad, very bad – it’s was BAD![/quote] I couldn’t agree with you more. And her performance on “Ringer” was the worst. I told my mom that I know her from Y&R and she just laughed at me for watching soaps. I felt so embarrassed. [quote=tedew]Have not seen the immediate aftermath of that subtle little scene but it will be quite jarring to see an aged Summer suddenly appear on the scene. Doesn’t seem like an appropriate time to bring that on right now.[/quote] So wrong to bring in a SORASed Summer right now. I was just shaking my head when Nick welcomed her with super girl and said to her that he told you this (Nick and Phyllis getting married again) would happen. I then had that scene in my head from a few weeks ago where Nick and Phyllis sat down with little Summer and told her. So bizarre! It’s like it took them 10 years to finally find their way to the altar. LOL But then again, wasn’t the altar … was just Gloworm. How tacky … and so disappointing. Soap weddings aren’t what they used to be anymore. Log in to Reply Deep Purple June 10, 2012 Why should we be surprised with this story line for Phyllis’ baby? This is from the same show where everyone is drinking coffee,but almost no one uses a handle. Almost everyone’s ringtone in this town is from the old Mattell electronic basketball and baseball games. SCORE! And Phyllis repeats at least one line per show. So of course the writers would go to this “played out” story line choice, and frankly an insult to the intelligence of the audience. Log in to Reply tedew June 11, 2012 Deep Purple … you give Ms. Stafford reverse credit. I’d actually venture saying that Phyllis maybe DOES NOT repeat one line per show. Log in to Reply hey mon June 11, 2012 David– Too funny. But as of now with Phyllis, its like she is in every storyline. If Jack goes to the bathroom she has to pop up out of the shower to say some words. If Kevin gets a traffic ticket she has to be meter-maid to hand him the ticket. If the police come to investigate Adam she has to wear uniform and be the investigator. —- And how come handsome-man half-Latino Ricky never got to bang a girl on the show? He instead, decided to devote his life to stalking Phyllis Newman. (say it slowly, and you’ll realize just how far Y&R is gone) Log in to Reply Camp is not a sustainable model June 11, 2012 @hey mon: Well next week Sharon sleeps with Murphy Then in July she’ll just throw herself up on the table at the coffee-shop and let all the male customers have her so that the extra’s get some more pay. It is obvious that Maria wishes she was a hoe when she was younger and is living it out vicariously through Sharon. You’d think that for a show headed by a Republican female (Maria’s a Republican) that she would have more self respect for the female characters. I’m not saying that your politician affiliation denotes what you will write. Yet, Agnes was as liberal as they come and she wrote her female characters with more self-respect and nuances even when they were engaged in questionable behaviors. Log in to Reply tedew June 11, 2012 If Maria is a Republican (or even worse one of your more self righteous “ecumenical” types) then that does explain an awful lot. Log in to Reply Mets82 June 11, 2012 Btw, why the hell is Fenmore aged? Better yet, why is Summer aged? I dont understand it. One thing I would do on soaps especially Y&R is to stop aging the kids. I mean you age the kids and most of them get lost in the shuffle. How many teenagers can you have on one soap? I mean if they age Faith as a 7 or 8 yr. old, who is she going to talk to? The wall?? Sharon has really gotten on my nerves lately, as has Nikki. Sharon with that grin on her face, I thought Nikki was going to slap her and Nikki isnt any better getting all preachy. I mean you thought that Sharon thought that the world revolved around her. Oh wait.. With that being said, as a 30 yr. old straight male, I got to say Sharon was looking goregous in that pink dress today, so shes got that going for her. Log in to Reply ChrisGa June 12, 2012 @Mets: as a strictly gay male, even I gotta say Sharon was looking gorgeous in that pink dress today. Unfortunately, character assasination cannot a hot pink dress erase. And if you pulled that dress off her she’d be full of holes because they’ve just about shot that character down to the point of near-death. Sorry, but I’m siding with the ex-stripper on this one . Log in to Reply hey mon June 12, 2012 Lesbian scene – Sharon and Red! Mets & ChrisGA, I hear ya. I have been waiting for a lesbian scene with Red and Sharon for years. Let Phyllis really have her way, the way she wants it, on a desk with Blondie. david — funny again. Sharon in one of those hot porn scenes taking on the younger set of guys… why not, her character from the 90s no longer exists. Log in to Reply Dyllan June 12, 2012 With regards to Sharon crashing the wedding, I think some individuals need to loosen up. I thought that sh*t was HILARIOUS. Her sashaying into Phick’s wedding and her whore dress were great TV. It was a great contrast to Nick’s anal and prudish attitude. Phyllis is by far more annoying than Sharon. I was rooting for Daisy to just hit her. I cannot stand her histrionics anymore. Stafford’s acting was joke. Can we please move past this notion that MS is a wonderful actress just because in the past (like 15 years) she gave great performances. One would have thought Phyllis was undergoing a root canal without any sort of numbing medication verses an actual miscarriage. And Y&R had the nerve to play Nadia’s Theme for the biotch? Puhlzee! Log in to Reply marybee50 June 12, 2012 Mets82-they probably soarased Summer so Victor has another relative he can use manipulate.Also,I’m sure somewhere down the line,Fen and Summer will have revenge sex against someone. They have ruined almost every character on this show,they need some new blood.Faith will now be treated like the past Summer,only brought out when Nick needs to bond with Sharon again.MAB cannot think or write new storylines,just recycle old ones with new players. Log in to Reply ChrisGa June 13, 2012 NuSummer’s constant tween-speak vocab got annoying quick on that episode. As for NuFen, just like Ricky before him, I got a decidedly non-straight vibe from him; it makes me wonder are there any straight soap actors left(were there any to begin with?)? Hmm…. Log in to Reply Mets82 June 13, 2012 Btw, you know what annoyed me about today’s Y&R? Can Genevieve stop calling Cane, Ethan? His name is Cane? Everyone calls him Cane. Also, what was that wedding ceremony? I mean I guess Im ok that Katherine married them. I mean Joey got ordained online to marry Monica and Chandler on Friends, so I guess its ok. Its a little odd seeing her as a minister. Also, what was she rambling about? She went on and on about something. What was that about? Log in to Reply tedew June 13, 2012 The two just revealed now older characters arrivals were very jarring. As I said before, Summer’s new look was very ill timed; plus … wasn’t she just trying on wedding gear just a couple of weeks ago as her younger self? Regarding Fen (who right now looks like he just arrived from Vulcan) … at least he’s been away for a while and had a bit of time for that teen growth spurt at band camp or wherever he happened to be. Dyllan … I agree with you. Even though we all despise Daisy I think she was actually trying to make inroads with Phyllis on her wedding day. It was Phyllis who went into that horrendous conniption fit which apparently started the latest Newman’s early exit. Daisy should have responded to the shrieks of distress but she did not cause the incident. And … I felt the same way when I heard Nadia’s Theme. It was like we were expected to feel great sympathy for the unfortunate incident when we really truly do not. Log in to Reply tedew June 13, 2012 Mets82 … ”Cane’s” name IS Ethan and Genevieve is Ethan’s mother, so why shouldn’t she call him by the name she gave him at birth? Katherine is an instant but still legal minister and was simply performing a ceremony and making a little speech as such. Log in to Reply Blue Skies and Palomino Ponies June 13, 2012 “Why in the hell they need another baby on this show is beyond me.” So that in three months they can have another teen on this show? Log in to Reply Floriluve28 June 15, 2012 ICAM!… I think the character Phyllis is over-used and MS although talented, over acts all the time. I’m tired of the “jazz-hands in your face, jump down your throat, rants and raves from Phyllis. Its seems like they write these scenes on purpose just to see MS expolde an up stage another actor, all the time. I keep my hand on FFWD and mute during all of her scenes. I hate this character, the hypocrisy is over-whelming now. It used to be kind of funny or a just Phyllis niche, but lately, its just down right sickening. If we were able to watch this show live, I’d throw tomatoes at the stage so they would stop, and go home. I won’t be surprised when this show gets cancelled. Log in to Reply tedew June 15, 2012 Floriluve28 … many/most (including me) agree completely your comments in post #63. It is getting quite intolerable and us two viewers here always comment that it has been “a Phyllis free day” when it is. When it’s also a Victor free day then we are in bliss. Unfortunately with Ricky right now being much too much an obvious villain (meaning he probably isn’t as bad as his sainted Father thinks him to be), someone else (Sasha Green or even Isabella?) is the culprit behind the scenes. So … Phyllis’ past will probably be rewritten and she will be absolved from all past crimes (we will be forced to believe were committed by someone else) and we will continue to have to suffer through her until the end of Y&R times. Log in to Reply Mets82 June 15, 2012 Well I think that hurts Y&R. Without Phyllis and Victor driving story and not on, who do you focus on? Thats why Maria Bell has done a bad job because with the exception of Jack, Nikki, Ashley, who gets more storytime? Lets say Phyllis and Victor had to leave the show for some reason, who do base the show around? Jack? Nikki? Do you push Chloe and Kevin to top tier status? God forbid, if something happens to some of the people who drive story, who replaces them? Log in to Reply Leave a Reply Cancel Reply You must be logged in to post a comment.