Is a Dynasty Reboot on The Horizon?!







Take this one with a grain of salt — make that a whole shaker! The National Enquirer is reporting that, on the heels of the success of TNT's Dallas reboot, there are now talks of doing one for classic, 80's sudser Dynasty! Said veteran Enquirer gossip hound Mike Walker:

TV moguls are already huddled in top-secret talks with tempestuous Denver oil “Dynasty” divas JOAN COLLINS and LINDA EVANS – begging them to get glam again in those magnificent, iconic costumes and scratch each other’s eyes out encore!

Said My Dyna-Spy: “Joan and Linda are really excited about reviving ‘Dynasty.’ The show looks like a definite go as producers work out the details!”


Wouldn't it be awesome to see Krystal (Linda Evans), Fallon (preferrably Pamela Sue Martin), Sammy Jo (Heather Locklear) and of course, Alexis (Joan Collins) return to TV, complete with a new generation of stars as the offspring of their infamous characters from the mega popular ABC soap?

Hey, if the potential Dynasty 2.0 scribes need any inspiration, they can check out the Wishful Casting I did for Dynasty: The Next Generation last October. Thanks Appleridge for the tip!

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PLEASE DON'T let this be broadcast in high-definition.

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I don't think I'd want a Dynasty reboot. The series was so identified with the 80s - so much more than Dallas was - I don't think it would work today. Dynasty and Dallas were very different.

I would find it hard to relate to a Dynasty of 2012. I know that it sounds good that another favorite is coming back but I also see Dallas as an exception. They tried to bring back so many old shows already. It didn't really worked out with the most of them. And since Dynasty would even be harder to pull of I hope they don't do it.

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Joan and Linda have ALLEGEDLY taken a blood oath to never work together again. They tried doing a project together a couple of years ago and it was a disaster.

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No Problem Jamey

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The man at the center of it all, John Forsythe, as Blake is no longer with us. I wonder how this would be without him.

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God. No.

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Dynasty was an empty shell of a show compared to other prime time soaps of the era, and Linda Evans is barely an actress. Also, I wonder if anyone has briefed Joan on the paltry sums Hagman, Duffy and Gray are getting on TNT.

The only way I see this working is if they re-animate John Forsythe and rename it The Walking Deadnasty.

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HELL YEAH! This is exactly what I was hoping!!! If "Dallas" is successful, then they can sure as hell bring back "Dynasty." There is SO much history and family surrounding Dynasty. I find more so than Dallas. I was a huge Dynasty kid, still like to watch reruns and this would just be so great. So great indeed. I actually heard rumors of this happening last fall, when the Dallas reboot was announced, so here is praying it happens and it's awesome and doesn't turn out like Melrose Place 2.0

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I'd prefer a Falcon Crest reboot over Dynasty. I think there would be more chance for a story with Falcon Crest. But they would need to figure out a way to bring Melissa (Ana-Alicia) back from the dead because now that Jane Wyman is gone...Melissa would be the perfect villain.

Maybe when Melissa "died" from that fire Angela had her comatose body sent to Switzerland so she could gain back control of Falcon Crest and now Melissa has come back to town to claim what she feels is rightfully hers...Falcon Crest, Lance and her son! (and with Melissa it would actually come in that order)Oh and I'd love to see Melissa kick Pilar's a**!

That would be much better than having two old women who cannot even make facial expressions (because they have had so much plastic surgery that their ears meet at the back of their heads) try to have a catfight in a pool with their sequined gowns and bad body doubles. I'm just sayin'.

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It wasn't a pool eurekasjm. It was the LILY POND.

Beer

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I like the Dallas 2012 (reboot) & think its written very well.

I just don't know if they all can be rebooted e.g. Dynasty, Falconcrest but if they can then give it a whirl....its a new audience they may be able to appeal to...

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Damn Ryan-Scott...you are right! It was a lily pond! I haven't seen Dynasty sense it originally aired so I was bound to make that mistake. Thanks for the info!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELzjQ8F_2gE

Love seeing the both of them sitting on the floor of it fighting as it doesn't look any deeper than 3 feet.

Beer

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Ryan-Scott that is awesome!!! But really...Joan Collins' double looked nothing like her! LOL!

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Oh I know.
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Ryan-Scott wrote:
It wasn't a pool eurekasjm. It was the LILY POND.

Beer

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THE classic line from the show was when Alexis dressed down Krystle by joking how Krystle was (wait for it), "CASTIGATED BY THE LILY POND!" by Blake.

Baaaaaahahahahahahahaha!

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I would love that, as long as they write it for 2012, not the '80s. I think the history is there, and if written well it can work.

The reason Dallas has worked so well thus far, is that not only is it written well, but they have a mixture of characters of the original and new.

I would say bring Linda and Joan, as well as Diahann Carroll back, even if it's just for a few episodes to reintroduce the kids and introduce the grandkids. Bring back John James (Jeff), Gordon Thomson (Adam), Jack Coleman (Steven, prefered his version), Emma Samms (Fallon, liked her version, and plus Pamela Sue Martin, will not come back), heck even bring back Catherine Oxenburg (Amanda). Bring the right actors to play Kristina, Little Blake, Danny, maybe even Dominique's grandchild.

I think the pilot can take place at Blake's funeral, that way it can be an homage to John Forsythe and his character.

I see some say don't do it, I am sure they said the same thing about Dallas, and it has worked. Like I said before, get the right people in charge, Dynasty will be a must see as well.

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Oh I forgot Heather Locklear, bring her back too!

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Hi All....I don't see this working as all. As much as I love Dynasty, I just don't see a reason to do it unless it starts with a very well received reunion movie. Dynasty, though popular, never had the cultural heft that Dallas did. The Dallas 2.0 folks did it right by only bringing back JR, Bobby, and (in a supporting role so far) Sue Ellen as part of the main cast. They have provided a great connection to the old show and have driven story well while also handing over the reigns to the younger generation. I can't imagine it being done any better.

Having said that, I will prance around my town square wearing only a Michelle Lee-esque wig while reciting the "Polyanna" speech if someone, anyone brings back my beloved Knots Landing.....

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God. Yes.

They need to bring this one back. I just hope they get some good producers a la Dallas and don't try to cobble this together with a pair of shoulder pads and some feather bangs. It needs to be well thought out and I agree with the posters that note the integration of old and new is extremely vital. That was the downfall of my beloved Melrose Place 2.0. The "old" were shunted to the back.

John Forsythe may have been the center male figure, but to me this show was all about the women, strong women.

Dynasty started during a recession and transformed into a show about excess. I think some of the issues we're dealing with now (the 1%, corporate misconduct, gay marriage) can get a lot of traction on a show like Dynasty. I want a well written show with excess, not a we-know-we're campy. They played it serious back then. Get an Austin Scarlett from Project Runway to design the clothes. We need to put some of that PR talent to good use.

Never really watched Dallas, but I will watch the current show when it comes out on DVD. The idea of horses and cowboy / oil men seemed to butch. Give me some diamonds, Nolan Miller, a British accent or two, and some catfights.

I will add that Dynasty is probably a stronger brand than some of those other 80's soaps.

Did Falcon Crest and Knots get Barbies recently:
http://www.barbiecollector.com/collection/dynasty-dolls

Did they have their own perfume back in the day (I remember getting Forever Krystle for my mother for mother's day - probably more for me to have the packaging than for her):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRyaClOSTPo

Eh, we can forget the fashion line, although I am looking for something that I can wear while I hold my parrot as an accessory:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzFZrZIg1iU

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Diane Carroll is still around. They need to bring her back to help open the show if it were to reboot and cast Tika Sumpter or Zoe Saldana as her granddaughter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc-h1CrkuIQ

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Love Dynasty! Would love a reboot. And that idea about Ana Alicia's Melissa back on a Falcon Crest reboot as the center of the show is Gold! The number one show I want rebooted: Knots Landing!!

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God. No.

As TV Gord so succinctly put it:

Dynasty was an empty shell of a show compared to other prime time soaps of the era...

The true reason that Dallas works so well is that executive producer and show developer Cynthia Cidre has not simply paired old characters/cast members with new (and really the only three new main characters are Elena, Rebecca and Ann, who herself is essentially Miss Ellie 2.0 ), but rather because Cidre has smartly relied on (in episodes that have aired so far) Dallas's deep, rich vein of history & mythology. She has wisely and successfully not tried to recreate The J.R. Ewing Show that Dallas became in its later seasons. Instead, Cidre has located the heart and soul of the series in its original themes: two sons who spent their whole lives trying to live up to their parent's expectations and the fallout and consequences of parental favoritism or neglect, as well as a time honored 'Romeo & Juliet" warring family feud.

Because Dallas was always a generational drama where the actions and choices of its elders — Jock, Digger & Miss Ellie, the references to whom in the current series are no accident or mere nods to the past or "the fans" — directly influenced almost every aspect of their children J.R., Gary and Bobby's lives, and the sins of the parents were borne by their children....and THEIR children, namely John Ross & Christopher (with Bobby's only biological child Lucas lurking somewhere out there), providing the solid foundation for the excellent continuation of their stories that we see today.

Dallas at its heart was never solely about backstabbing, double crossing, Sue Ellen's drunken escapades or J.R. Ewing's schemes & shenanigans. That is a shallow understanding of what the show was about. If it were, "Dallas" would have never outlasted "Dynasty" or nearly all the other pretenders to the throne, nor would it have been as influential across the television landscape that still echoes throughout almost every one of today's prestige serialized dramas from "The Good Wife" and "Mad Men" to "Breaking Bad" and "Game of Thrones."

Dynasty, for all its cartoonish campiness, never had this kind history, never had this kind of mythology and certainly is an almost unworkable concept to bring back without making it into a complete remake to be remotely credible. On what broad shoulder pads could such a remake possibly hang on? The control for Denver-Carrington, a company that — unlike Ewing Oil, which virtually was almost as much a character as Southfork — that even the characters of Dynasty considered something of an afterthought? Sammy Jo (played by a still viable Heather Locklear), who was a popular but still supporting character? Alexis vs. Krystal vs. Dominique, for what possible reason? Does anyone even remember who had what kids — including whatever that late in life kid that Krystal & Blake had (Bobbie Kristina??) that would now be grown?

I'm sure someone clever could come up with something interesting for a "Dynasty"-spinoff/sequel/reimagining/continuation/reboot that might possibly work in 2012/13/14/et al. Perhaps updated in the way Hawaii Five-0 was updated for CBS, with new actors playing diffrent versions of the old characters with the same names. Maybe Matthew Fox as 'Blake,' Elizabeth Mitchell as 'Krystal' and Catherine Zeta-Jones as "Alexis'. I don't see it, yet it is possible.

But here real difference between Dallas and Dynasty:

Both were reflections and refractions of the go-go, greedy, heady excesses of the 1980's, but the former always traded in universal and even timeless themes that have been easily updated the present day, while the shallow & thin latter was wholly and almost strictly a product of its time, an entertaining if creaky relic of its era that should be remembered only in reruns, YouTube clips and gay bar retrospectives from here on out.

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dewlove wrote:
Having said that, I will prance around my town square wearing only a Michelle Lee-esque wig while reciting the "Polyanna" speech if someone, anyone brings back my beloved Knots Landing.....

I would prance and recite with you. If anything needs a reboot, it would be Knots Landing. I would love to catch up with Karen, Mack, Val, Gary, Abby, Sumner and Paige!!!

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David vs. J. Bernard Part V!

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Great post J Bernard.

And who honestly wants to see an 80 year old English lady in a catfight with a 70 year old lady, who over the years used a little too much botox? No.

And I'm sorry but a new generation of them doesn't sound intriguing either. Maybe if John Forsythe was still with us, maybe then it would make sense but so it just doesn't.

The show made for good entertainment in the 80s. "Dynasty" was campy and a very stylish show. You can't even do a remake because then you would betray every single thing from the original.

"Dynasty", please stay dead and buried. You should remembered for being 80s cult. Not another desperate attempt of making something old new again.

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By the way, yes Dynasty had massive merchandising spinoffs, including the infamous, hideous "The Dynasty Collection" women's & men's wear lines by the recently deceased Nolan Miller. There were tons of merchandising tie-ins that were used mainly to help offset the huge, escalating costs of production as Dynasty wore on.

But Dallas was no slouch in that department, either. There were:

J.R. Ewing dolls:

http://www.ioffer.com/w/555-5555

A video game called "Dallas Quest," which you can still download and play on your computer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_Quest

A syndicated "Dallas" comic strip:

http://www.ultimatedallas.com/dallasfun/comic.htm

And other merchandise:

http://www.ultimatedallas.com/news/merchandise3.htm

...and five official novels: "Dallas," "The Ewings of Dallas", "The Men of Dallas," "The Women of Dallas", and "Dallas: The Complete Ewing Family Saga."

I also believe there was a line of Dallas clothes (as equally horrible as the Dynasty collection) and a Dallas cologne.

And while daytime soaps all brought in or changed some characters to mimic Dynasty's "Alexis," almost every soap brought in a country western character to echo the C&W craze sweeping the country because of "Dallas" (I'm thinking specifically of you Jimmy Lee Holt of "General Hospital" and Cal Strickland of "As the World Turns") and entire core families to replicate the Ewings, including the Buchanans on One Life to Live and the Lewises on Guiding Light.

There was even daytime's wholesale version of "Dallas," NBC's wonderful but short-lived "Texas" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w21mcY76jjg),

Even then, Dallas did two additional things Dynasty never achieved:

1. The frenzy over 'Who Shot J.R.?' landed Dallas on the cover of Time magazine, which for its time as a huge achievement for any tv show.

2. "Who Done It?" — the season four opener that answered the question of who shot J.R. — was, at the time, the highest rated regular television episode in US history. It had a Nielsen rating of 53.3 and a 76% share, and it was estimated that 83,000,000 people watched the episode.

Dynasty's highest rated episode was the resolution to the Moldavian Massacre cliffhanger, around 60 million.

Bottom line: Dynasty might have had more buzz for a time and even more merchandise, but it came in after and flamed out before Dallas did.

In short, dolls and cologne aside, Dallas was — and continues to be — the true cultural juggernaught.

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One final note about the power of Dallas and it's own 13 year run on CBS versus the weak sauce of Dynasty's 8 year run on ABC:

Dallas' spinoff — the relatively low key, character driven Knot's Landing — lasted fourteen years, one production year and two broadcast years longer than its parent.

Dynasty's spinoff — the heavily hyped, star-studded Dynasty II: The Colbys — lasted barely a year and a half.

::throws down mic and walks off stage::

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J Bernard-Thanks for the insights as well as the "commercial"/"cultural" influence "round-up" comparison of Dallas vs. Dynasty. Eloquent as always. Curious. You mentioned "The Good Wife", "Mad Men", "Game of Thrones", and "Breaking Bad" as the "prestige" serialized dramas airing today. Where would you place or would you even include "Revenge" in that particular
"prestige" category? Do you believe this drama has the potential to last 5-8 seasons or will it sputter because the heroine can only "take out" so many of her father's enemies before the whole town's numerical population takes a hit?... Innocent

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I wouldn't put "Revenge" in any prestige category. It's the upper end of the Gossip Girl spectrum normally found on The CW and ABC Family/USA/TNT, not the lower end of "The Good Wife" or AMC/HBO/Showtime.

Don't get me wrong: I do think it is quite good, extremely entertaining, slickly produced, and competently acted compared to most of its current prime time soap brethren, but "Revenge" really is kind of its own thing. While it is definitely a prime time soap, it's also a noir/pulp revenge thriller. It has been certainly touted for being based on "The Count of Monte Cristo", but think more "Kill Bill" without the excessive bloodshed. This makes it more of a mashup of genres with its feet planted firmly on both sides of the fence.

Now as for its staying power, that I think is up in the air. I think the producers/writers have thrown enough balls up in the air to keep the narrative going for at least three more years, but that is also a high wire act of great pressure. I think a more precise question is can they keep so many balls in the air for that extended period of time without dropping them or turning into a bizarre circus act before burning out the audience? For that I have no answer, but at the rate Emily is going and the bigger the conspiracy spreads, she might have move to New York and take out all of Brooklyn before its said and done.