SOAP BYTES: Days of Our Lives is One Big Clusterfluff; Who is The Weakest Link on General Hospital?


GH BYTES: The mere mention of Jack Manning (Andrew Trischitta) sent shivers of horror down my spine, because I couldn’t help imagining the awfulness of Trischitta ending up in scenes opposite Haley Pullos’ Molly. May it never happen.

I appreciate that General Hospital uses a variety of sets, but for some reason the impact of Kate (Kelly Sullivan) and Sonny’s (Maurice Benard) conversation about her DID, lost child and emotional state just doesn’t pack as big of a punch when a bunch of coffee bean bags are in the background.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if Anne Robinson had popped up from behind one of those bags and told Kate “You are the weakest link, goodbye!”?

Todd (Roger Howarth) and Carly (Laura Wright) shared more scenes. I especially liked him recounting how Jack called him “Scarface.” That was about the only think Jack was good at. Carly and Todd found common ground in their past. Those two just need to take a giant leap into the nearest bed and screw their brains out.

Johnny (Brandon Barash) and Lulu (Julie Marie Berman) spent more time working on the party. I liked JoLu when Johnny first arrived in Port Charles, but I would much rather see him sharing more time with that yodeler, Starr (Kristen Alderson) or Carly. Lulu continues to be a character in much need of rehabilitation.

39 Responses

  1. Avatar of soapjunkie88
    soapjunkie88

    I FF everything connected with Joe Scully Jr. Some awful acting and the story is extremely weak.

    Don’t even bother to watch Y&R anymore. Catch a few scenes on YT now and then. Can’t watch the Phyllis Newman hour. -.-

    And about DAYS … the show has it’s moments but they’ve become rare. Hope for some change to the better after Olympics.

  2. Avatar of EricasEvilTwin
    EricasEvilTwin

    Weakest link is RiSt as Joe Scully Jr. (and can someone please explain why in the hell they keep calling him Joe JUNIOR when Senior is dead. If Kate said joe raped her would sonny get confused and think she meant his father?? UGH) KeSul is turning in a great performance, but shes been saddled with a craptastic story. You can put lipstick on a pig but in the end all you still have is a pig of a story.

  3. Avatar of DaytimeFan0001
    DaytimeFan0001

    So true about B&B. It’s unwatchable. The dialogue is lousy to boot. Those scenes in Dayzees were lousy. Where is the drama, why is there no villain? Bill Spencer is not a villain. In my opinion I think Bill is worst character on this show and bringing it down.

    I only watch it because on the other side of the credits is my lunch break.

  4. Avatar of Jamey Giddens
    Jamey Giddens

    Y’all know I am a Sonny lover, but his outrage is a bit hypocritical. How many of his strippers got raped back when he was plying ‘em with dope, in order to get ‘em to turn those upside down somersaults on the poles?

  5. Avatar of ConqueringBlue
    ConqueringBlue

    Jamey, didn’t Sonny himself try to sleep with Karen after getting her hooked on pills? Or did they actually sleep together? It was a while ago I can’t remember for sure lol

    Luke, I completely agree about Days! It’s a total wreck! Why the show is promoting the awfulness and boringness of the Daniel/Nicole/Rafe/Carrie “romances” is beyond me. It’s summer, the kids want something hot and steamy to watch, they really should’ve taken the plunge and written a juicy Sonny/Will/EJ triangle

  6. Avatar of Jabot1991
    Jabot1991

    Of course Andrew Trischitta is being attacked again, he’s improved a lot toward the end of OLTL, also I think a Molly/Jack pairing would be adorable. Also Andrew and Haley look like a cute couple and Molly can help Jack soften toward Todd again.

  7. Avatar of hey mon
    hey mon

    Too true about DAYS. Havent watched since Melaswan, and I dont recognize many of the people on the screen. Hopefully Kristen can come on the screen, and make some serious waves.

  8. Avatar of pjc722
    pjc722

    All 4 had my lack of attention to them on HIGH this past week and last week. On GH, I am just tired of the TOUGH GUY MEN on the show who treat women as less than or not equal to the sum of a man. Sure, Todd and Carly are great together in their scenes but how long before they get together until Todd shows Carly he’s an ass?!

    As for Kate, I think the chorus on the blogs are going in the same direction I have been for months now. It’s time for CONNIE to come out, take over her body and throw KATE OUT. Then COnnie gets on the back of a harley and drives out of town FOR GOOD! Seriously, this would be a fantastic twist on the DID story if it was revealed that Kate was the alternate personality that has been in control for all these years. Once Connie gets control again and Olivia sees that the old Connie… the real Connie … is back, she realizes that Kate was ALWAYS the alternative. Kate come about NOT BECAUSE Connie was raped by Joe Jr but because Connie slept with Joe and then realized that Sonny would kill him AND HER when he found out. Add in the pregnancy and the pressure created KATE.

    Not another rape. Women don’t need to be raped ALL THE TIME.

    On B&B, the only story worth telling there is that Hope discovers that Liam basically, and emotionally, cheated on her AGAIN with her step-sister. She argues, rightfully so, that what would Liam do if she was late to a Forrester family dinner because of the notorious traffic in LA and because her phone was not charged couldn’t call, so she was LATE, would Liam grab Steffy and go at it in one of the bathrooms of Stephanie’s house? Time for Bill to realize he let Liam be a wuss and now it’s time for both Hope and Steffy to kick him to the curb so that he can grow a pair.

    And by putting Dayzee and whatever her fiance’s name is into the show after weeks of nothing isn’t worth telling. Either give us the full story or none at all. BUT at least it was a different story.

    On Days… I fell asleep and since the show has no intention of writing compelling story I have no intention of writing that the show sucks and why.

    Over on Y&R, I am trying to understand the kid glove treatment they are giving Phyllis when they have proof, evidence and basic testimony that she ran over Paul and Christine on purpose and has a long track record of doing evil and malicious things over the past 20 years. Then you see one of her victims, Paul, being treated by Michael and Ronan as if he is a carbon copy of Adam and they keep him locked up in a jail cell, don’t argue for bail because he is surely not a flight risk, and the PURE SIMPLE fact that in the over 30 years of Doug Davidson being the only actor to portray Paul, Paul has been one of the most upstanding citizens in Genoa City… well, besides the time he gave Nikki an STD but what teenager in the 70s didnt get one of those.

    It irks me more that Avery, after all that she believed her father to be and after all the abuse Phyllis threw at her over Avery siding with her LYING her over stealing money from sick people, Avery would IMMEDIATELY jump at the chance to defend her homicidal sister and even pass judgement on Nick for walking out on her. After today’s episode, seeing Christine being blamed for no compassion, and then seeing Daniel basically tell his mother he will side with her, Ronan escorting her out of the coffee house without handcuffs (while THEY HANDCUFFED PAUL IN THE POLICE STATION RIGHT AFTER HIS SON’S FUNERAL), Nick showing up at the coffee house with his bad actress daughter, Summer and then to see the look of disgust on everyones face towards Christine made me think that this good drama will end shortly while the WTF drama of Paul shooting his demented son to save Eden (who, ooooofffff course, can’t remember a thing and with ISABELLA SOMEHOW OUT OF THE MENTAL WARD IN LA and back in the GC hiding the knife) makes me wonder WHY Maria Bell sees story and then opts for the ridiculous.

    The better drama would be to see Phyllis on trial and without anyone and then having to work to regain the love and trust of her family. Starting small with Summer coming to stand by her mom’s side and then slowly but surely Daniel and after she gets off, reworking it with Nick. But no. I can guarantee that this story will see Phyllis off, Phyllis sticking it to Christine, and ROnan saying to Chris with Michael that Chris needs to get over it.

    All the while, we are watching Paul… who seriously at this stage of the game with his life NEEDS NEEDS NEEDS a good mental rest somewhere … stand trial for his son’s murder only to see Eden remember on the stand and then WACKO Isabella walk into the court room.

    (Only one I could think who would have dropped the rosary beads besides Paul’s sister Patti … ain’t her… her Paul’s bible belting momma …. and it really can’t be her because she loved Paul more than anyone and would have been showing that knife if she took it.)

    Love the Adam and Chelsea story but wish Sharon Case knew how to play a bitch. It’s like she reads the lines off a teleprompter after only seeing them that one time. She needs to take a lesson or two from the way Michelle Stafford or even view old tapes of Tracey E Bergman from her Lauren vs. Tracey days!

  9. Avatar of The_Moustache
    The_Moustache

    GH still has A LOT of work to do if they don’t want to get cancelled replaced by Good Afternoon America in the next few months.

    the previous months have been a big improvement, namely Todd & Heather returning but there is still so much dead-weight and b-storylines/characters that should be gotten rid of completely.

  10. Avatar of TV Gord
    TV Gord

    And Good Afternoon America will only be vanquished if everyone in the soap community sticks togeth–HEY, was that Cameron Matheson on GAA today??? Why, yes indeed, it was! ;-)

  11. Avatar of ChrisGa
    ChrisGa

    It’s sad that MAB is once again playing Phyllis as the victim despite her mowing two people down to the point of near death. She’s basically the female Victor, completely untouchable on every level with absolutely no consequences for anything she does. Today’s ep made me sick on numerous levels(and I haven’t even brought up that desperate ass Sharon’s bullshit shenanigans); I know alot of people hate Cricket and her holier-than-thou attitude but I’m siding with the Bug on this one.

  12. Avatar of sillytee
    sillytee

    i really hate how ronan and even heather are ganging up on christine because of this. is there really a statute of limitaitons for attempetd murder?????????? heather, of all people, should b on christines side. is it because she’s horny for daniel? phyllis needs her comeuppance on this one.

  13. Avatar of hey mon
    hey mon

    Hate The Bug, and I will never get used to her. Couldnt get used to her from 85 – 03. Cannot, will not. Hate her, cant stand her. To see her prancing around Genoa City being The Queen, after being her self-righteous self, is too much. Just last month she treated Cane like $hit, telling him he would be deported if he didnt squeal on Gen. Then she bumps into frosting-hair Danny, and they go at it like dogs in heat after seeing each other for 5 minutes. Cricket go away.

    I remember every rotten thing Red did in the 90s and early 2000s, but she has changed.

  14. Avatar of alexrochet
    alexrochet

    Oh Gosh I LOVED THE JOLU SCENES!!!! Being a die hard Lulu fan how refreshing to see the old Lulu Spencer back on my screen from time to time! I have been waiting for almost three years to see the horrible Lante broken up and Lulu free of that controlling douche. I want Lulu Spencer to be herself and not trying to be what Dante wants her to be. A fileclerk? PLEASE????

    And I certainly don’t want the horrible Starr with Johnny. I FF all of her scenes do don’t make me FF all of Johnny’s scenes because of her. JoLu still have a huge following (as noticed by SID that mentioned how amazing it is to see JoLu still in the Soap Couples Top 10 issue after issue even though they have not been an item for more than three years!

    So no to Starr/Johnny, no to Lulu/Patrick, I want JoLu. Time to break up Lante after years of that nightmare, long years of seeing Lulu’s character sacrificed to the Dante Corinthos altar. Time to free Lulu! Please please please please!

    And enough of the airhog Todd. Twelve days in a row… The most used character of GH for the past two months is an OLTL character… GO FIGURE and wonder why the ratings keep going down for the past two months. B

    efore trying to gain new viewers, Cartini should not forget to keep the old GH fans. Bring back Alan, Jax, Nikolas, Emily or Ric instead of those OLTL characters!

  15. Avatar of TV Gord
    TV Gord

    Todd is now a GH character. At some point, you’re going to have to accept it (or not…but then, we have to read the daily complaining, which gets really old).

  16. Avatar of Jamey Giddens
    Jamey Giddens

    @TV Gord I totally agree re: Todd. It’s so silly. People act like this is the first time this has been done. I don’t recall outrage over Skye Chandler (an All My Children character) driving story for years on OLTL and GH. Heck, they even re-wrote history to make Skye a part of GH’s core family (and then changed history again, but I digress). It’s not like this regime is suddenly saying Todd is Edward’s long lost son, or Tea is the bastard daughter of Jessie Brewer and Manny the orderly.

    All My Children’s Jeremny Hunter crossed over (and died) on Loving. Angie Hubbard moved to Corinth and later The City. Anna Devane and Robin didn’t even reunite on GH, they did so on All My Children. I really don’t get why this is any different. Especially since core GH characters like Heather, Felicia and Anna were also brought back and given meaty storylines.

  17. Avatar of alexrochet
    alexrochet

    Wow how nice… How can it be a daily complaining when I have not posted in days. How condescending to tell people that it is “getting old” because we just disagree and do not worship Todd?

    What do you prefer: people who complain but still watch or people who stop complaining because they have stopped watching?

    FYI, if you remember I was complaining the same way about Dante being an airhog. But oops TV Gord, you cannot remember because you were not watching GH at the time! And not posting at Perkie’s.

    Jamey, at the time of Skye jumping from one ABC soap to another, the three ABC soaps were still on! Why can’t people figure that this is different because we all know that GH time is short and we don’t want the said time to be all about some OLTL characters who already got their exit instead of GH characters. Keep bullying us about having to say how great this is and you will get more and more GH viewers who never really watched OLTL like me to give up! I am sorry but for me Todd is a NEW character and as any NEW character I HATE when they become an airhog. Check with Perkie, she will tell you that I was screaming the same way when Dante who was a new character became number one of Episode count a month after he showed up.

    But yes it is “silly”… So silly that ratings keep falling for the past weeks and GH has not been able to achieve any 2.0 since Robin’s death! Even DOOL manages to get some (at least 5 in the same past 8 weeks if I am not mistaken).

    The show needs to please both the old viewers AND the new ones. But apparently only the new ones matter and if we dare say something, we are immediately patronized… I have been watching GH for more than 22 years. Never missed one episode (even if now I don’t watch live anymore so I can FF all those characters I really don’t like). I have called, write, gone to FCWE..; But apprently criticizing the gods that Cartini are supposed to be by daring to say that I can’t stand that airhog Todd is a crime… So I guess I should just shut up and lose my interest? As long as I have the energy to protest, it means I still CARE! But yes, it’s so “silly”

    And BTW, Skye was NEVER in the Top 5 of episode counts at GH if I remember well… So to compare Skye and Todd? Sorry. Personnally I compare Dante and Todd, and I just vomit both.

  18. Avatar of TV Gord
    TV Gord

    I didn’t say YOU were complaining daily, but there IS complaining daily. I’m sorry you don’t like my condescending tones. It’s one of my specialties. ;-)

  19. Avatar of TV Gord
    TV Gord

    And cut the “bullying” bullshit. Nobody’s being bullied. You express your opinion. Others express our/their opinion. Nobody’s trying to tell you how to feel. What a persecution complex!

  20. Avatar of evermore
    evermore

    I’m not loving this Joe Scully Jr story much either, but I think Molly and TJ are the weakest link and I think it’s a crime that Shawn doesn’t have a story

  21. Avatar of BubbleGirl
    BubbleGirl

    This forum needs “like” and “dislike” buttons. I agree and disagree with a lot that is said here, but the bottom line is that the current GH is all we have right now and it needs our support.

  22. Avatar of edenpark
    edenpark

    Alexrochet, Loved your post. Even if we usually disagree on a few things about GH, I know you are a true fan and IMO, what you say is far from silly…

    I think it is sad to have reached a point where if you dare say something against one of the OLTL characters, some posters always jump to your throat (some of which who were not even watching GH not so long ago but who at least had the honesty to say it).

    Jamey, as Alex said it, the crossovers were not creating “outrage” as long as the three soaps were still on air. What seems to bother a LOT of GH fans is the fact that some OLTL characters are going to get two endings (and they were a huge part of the OLTL’s one already) depriving some GH characters of screening time. Personnally I don’t see what is so hard to understand in that. It is just a human reaction. Not a “silly” one.

    Imagine GH cancelled and the Unholy Trinity transplanted to Llanview. Would die hard OLTL fans knowing their show is in the death row happy to see Sonny or Jason every freakin day??? Seing MB or SB number one in the episode numbers for 2 months in a row? Of course not!

    You don’t see fans as unhappy regarding John. The main difference is that John is not on every day. And even the fans of the couple (Jasam) he is potentially ruining are not that unhappy because of the huge chem between McBam and the common history on Port Charles.

    But some people are very unhappy with Todd for several reasons:
    - he is on every day. But where is Alexis? Where is Liz? Where is Patrick? The day we finally get less Sonny and Jason it is to give all their screentime to Todd Manning? A newbie on GH? You must be kidding me! And Alex is right, the reaction to Dante, a newbie, getting all that screentime antagonized the same way so many people that now Dante is one of the most hated character of GH (and has finally be backburned)

    - the Johnny factor: it has been discussed here and on so many other boards that I won’t elaborate too much. Take a couple (Johnny/Carly) getting a lot of buzz and becoming quickly very popular. Enters Todd. Who will need a leading actress as Blair is not coming to GH. Sam is already busy with Mc Bain. That leaves Carly. Busy with Johnny. Shoot… Johnny becomes an issue so let’s write Johnny out. Shoot again, outraged reaction of fans at the rumor that BB is leaving so the script is changed so let’s write him out of the blue as a despicable villain so that everyone will cheer when Todd will save Carly and Starr from Johnny’s horrible hands. Big mistake. Johnny is loved by A LOT of GH fans. How did you think those Johnny fans were going to react towards Todd when they see their fave thrown under the bus for Todd’s sake? And all the people saying, no it’s not true, the agenda is not to put Todd and Carly together a few weeks ago… Let me laugh and let’s talk about that into a few weeks when Todd and Carly will indeed be a couple. That makes reason 2

    - I am no Jasam fan but I know of so many fans who are so unhappy of Todd being the one switching the babies and depriving Jasam of their bundle of joy (sorry throwing up a little bit in my mouth here ;) ). That would be reason 3…

    Some will admit, if they take off their cap of Todd/Cartini/OLTL fan, that it can be a lot for some GH fans to swallow, no? Especially when the difference compared with last year in terms of viewers is barely 80.000 persons which will certainly not save the show further than 2013?

    So I fully agree with Alexrochet on some points. Yes Todd is an airhog and yes the show needs balance and consistency.
    Bring back romance (I agree Alex, the JoLu scenes were great and usually, you know that, I can’t stand Lulu but seeing her with Johnny makes her watchable when I loathe her with Dante… I loathe Lante in fact), be consistent with the characters history, I know that Ron and Frank can write exciting storylines. But not sure that giving the feeling that they are pimping their guys to the detriment of some of the GH guys is the right approach.

    Any fidelity program book states that you should focus first about keeping around the old customers and only once you have secured them, add some new ones. I am not sure this is what CarTini are doing right now.

    Sorry but I love GH too much. I care about the show and I’d rather keep the viewers who have been loyal to the show for so many years. So if they need to rant, they should be able to do it without getting a lecture.

    As Alex said, as long as someone complains, it means that this viewer still cares. So probably still watches the show. The day they are not complaining anymore? I bet it means GH will have lost one more viewer. So I’ll take rants gladly instead of a further fall in ratings… JMHO of course!

  23. Avatar of edenpark
    edenpark

    [quote=BubbleGirl]This forum needs “like” and “dislike” buttons.[/quote]

    Please no… DC is different than other boards because you get older people to post here. People who develop their opinion. This is not Facebook or Twitter (thank god) so I personnally don’t see the point of putting some “like” and “dislike”. I bet some people would start posting less and less and would just like or dislike…

    I guess the interest is that if you have something to say, do not hesitate to register and let your opinion known. The more posts, the more traffic, the more buzz…

    Just my opinion of course :)

    And supporting a show doesn’t mean blindly saying Amen to what you get. To get higher ratings you need to keep the die hard GH fans and bring on new OLTL or AMC viewers. But to increase the ratings, you basically need good stories, good romance, great acting and characters we love or we love to hate. Voicing your opinion in the hope that you will be listened to (one can always dream) rather than giving up as a mute will always get my vote.

    Sorry but I don’t drink Kool Aid ;)

  24. Avatar of TV Gord
    TV Gord

    [quote=edenpark]1) I think it is sad to have reached a point where if you dare say something against one of the OLTL characters, some posters always jump to your throat (some of which who were not even watching GH not so long ago but who at least had the honesty to say it).

    2) the crossovers were not creating “outrage” as long as the three soaps were still on air. What seems to bother a LOT of GH fans is the fact that some OLTL characters are going to get two endings (and they were a huge part of the OLTL’s one already) depriving some GH characters of screening time. Personnally I don’t see what is so hard to understand in that. It is just a human reaction. Not a “silly” one.

    3) Imagine GH cancelled and the Unholy Trinity transplanted to Llanview. Would die hard OLTL fans knowing their show is in the death row happy to see Sonny or Jason every freakin day??? Seing MB or SB number one in the episode numbers for 2 months in a row? Of course not!

    4) You don’t see fans as unhappy regarding John. The main difference is that John is not on every day. And even the fans of the couple (Jasam) he is potentially ruining are not that unhappy because of the huge chem between McBam and the common history on Port Charles.

    5) But some people are very unhappy with Todd for several reasons:
    - he is on every day. But where is Alexis? Where is Liz? Where is Patrick? The day we finally get less Sonny and Jason it is to give all their screentime to Todd Manning? A newbie on GH? You must be kidding me! And Alex is right, the reaction to Dante, a newbie, getting all that screentime antagonized the same way so many people that now Dante is one of the most hated character of GH (and has finally be backburned)

    6) – the Johnny factor: it has been discussed here and on so many other boards that I won’t elaborate too much. Take a couple (Johnny/Carly) getting a lot of buzz and becoming quickly very popular. Enters Todd. Who will need a leading actress as Blair is not coming to GH. Sam is already busy with Mc Bain. That leaves Carly. Busy with Johnny. Shoot… Johnny becomes an issue so let’s write Johnny out. Shoot again, outraged reaction of fans at the rumor that BB is leaving so the script is changed so let’s write him out of the blue as a despicable villain so that everyone will cheer when Todd will save Carly and Starr from Johnny’s horrible hands. Big mistake. Johnny is loved by A LOT of GH fans. How did you think those Johnny fans were going to react towards Todd when they see their fave thrown under the bus for Todd’s sake? And all the people saying, no it’s not true, the agenda is not to put Todd and Carly together a few weeks ago… Let me laugh and let’s talk about that into a few weeks when Todd and Carly will indeed be a couple. That makes reason 2

    - I am no Jasam fan but I know of so many fans who are so unhappy of Todd being the one switching the babies and depriving Jasam of their bundle of joy (sorry throwing up a little bit in my mouth here ;) ). That would be reason 3…

    7) Some will admit, if they take off their cap of Todd/Cartini/OLTL fan, that it can be a lot for some GH fans to swallow, no? Especially when the difference compared with last year in terms of viewers is barely 80.000 persons which will certainly not save the show further than 2013?[/quote]

    1) Welcome to message boards. That’s how they work. People disagree. This can’t be a shock to you. (Sorry for being condescending, but that’s a little bonus I’m throwing in for Alex.) ;-)

    2) OLTL characters are not getting TWO endings. OLTL ended with a cliffhanger, because when they taped the final episode, they thought they were still moving on to Prospect Park. Todd was arrested for a murder he didn’t commit (and in fact, is still believed to have killed his brother, even though we found out on what turned out to be the final OLTL that his brother is still alive). That doesn’t sound like an ending to me.

    3) I would have had no problem if GH had been cancelled and characters moved to the other soaps (or one of them, if only one was left). I didn’t know anything about Anna Devane when she showed up on AMC, or Linda Dano’s Rae Cummings, when that OLTL character showed up on AMC. In fact, I was so enthused by the combination of characters from other soaps that I followed Skye and Rae to OLTL and became hooked on it, and then to GH. Not everyone has the same “circle the wagons” mentality that a number of GH fans seem to have.

    4) John McBain is not on every day NOW, but he certainly was when he first arrived. For the first few months, he was on EVERY day.

    5) Why does this argument always come up that somehow if Todd wasn’t on GH, we’d suddenly see more of Alexis or Liz or Patrick? The writers are going to write for whom they choose to write. If Todd was not the new character, and it was Joe Timbuktu, JOE would be on everyday and you’d still get the same amount of Alexis and Liz and Patrick that you do now. This argument makes no sense to me, blaming a frontburner character because tptb don’t want to write for the backburnered characters.

    6) Sorry, but I’m going to be condescending again. How long have you been watching soaps??? Whenever a couple seems to be happy on a soap, a third party is brought in to get between them. That’s a soap staple that goes back as long as there have been soaps. Sure, Todd is being brought in to get between Carly and Johnny. It’s only happened a gazillion times before (just as Johnny is coming between Dante and Lulu).

    7) Of course, GH’s ratings are down. We all predicted it when AMC and OLTL were cancelled. A lot of viewers watched all three ABC soaps, so when GH was left to stand alone after the awful Revolution, it’s no surprise that a lot of casual soap viewers (yes, believe it or not, there ARE soap viewers who don’t take these shows THIS seriously) just stopped watching. The whole point of introducing the OLTL characters was to lure some of those viewers back (but some GH fans are too short-sighted to see that and criticize every move the OLTL transpLlants make).

    We should all be working together in the faint hope of saving the final ABC soap on the air, but from the point of view of THIS AMC/OLTL fan, all I ever read is how unwelcome we are.

  25. Avatar of edenpark
    edenpark

    1) Thank you so much. So nice of you

    2)Please… In this case, we can settle the OLTL “true ending” quickly through recurring appearances and reveal for example that Allison Perkins has Victor and reunite him with Tea and then bye-bye… No problem with that. I guess you perfectly understand what some GH fans are saying, that the GH ending should be about GH. After you can disagree (i understand that being a OLTL fan you must disagree…)

    3) once again we are speaking of a different kind of cross-over because it can only go one way from other soaps to GH and characters leaving GH have no chance now to cross-over to any other ABC soap… I love Skye and adore Robin Christopher that I was lucky enough to meet several times. My favorite soap for her was GH and the Skylo pairing. So you see this is not black and white, daring to say something against Todd doesn’t mean people are against every cross-over that ever happened. On the contrary. And as I tried to say it, John is by far not creating the same reaction! No need to do generalities when only one character and transplant is questioned!
    And from discussions which must still be available of Soapzone or SOC, you would perhaps be surprised to see how many OLTL fans admitted that they would have hated to see Sonny and Jason becoming the Number 1 in terms of episodes.

    4) He was in the Top 5 in April yes. Doesn’t equal to Number ONE two months in a row. That must be the difference I guess.

    5)If you re-read my post you will see that I was trying to post the reasons why some GH fans have some problem with Todd. The fact is that a newbie is getting the most screentime. So he is blamed because people feel that the more they will scream it, the more they will perhaps get a chance to see one of their faves instead of the said newbie. This has been exactly the same with Dante. A GH character. So why would Todd get a different treatment?

    6)27 years why? Usually soaps break a couple after they went through the build-up, the bliss (generally very short), the adversity and then the break-up. Carly/Johnny barely started before they were broken up. My very small experience in soaps tells me that it is not the usual type. And once again I was exposing what I thought are the reasons Todd is disliked

    7)My favorite part of your post “some GH fans are too short-sighted”… Yeah, of course… And then you give your “we should all be working together”??? Wow… “Unwelcome you are”??? “you” ? Can’t speak for others but if you check my posts you will find how happy I was when I heard that cartini were coming, how I like John much better on GH than on OLTL, that I think that GH will only have a chance if we can retain the GH fans and gain the OLTL fans… However if you expect me to say I adore Todd to make you feel “welcome”, sorry but I hated the guy on OLTL already and I still can’t stand him… Won’t change that.

    I am sincerely happy for you if you enjoy GH. Personnally I don’t really enjoy it anymore… But I still watch. For the moment. I still voice my opinion about my show. As long as I will do it, it will mean that I am still watching. But life is short so I know that once I will find that I am busier doing something else while watching the show than really WATCHING the show, I know it will be my hint to give up for good and I know that my husband will be so happy to see me without my GH addiction.

    You see, no name calling about OLTL fans in my post, no questioning of how long you have been watching the show… just giving my opinion. If it makes you feel “unwelcome”, I am sorry…

    OK heading back to real life and to work… After all this is just a soap… :)

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    TV Gord

    No problem. At least now I’m not alone in being condescending. Welcome onto the bandwagon! ;-)

    I don’t say I MUST disagree because I’m an OLTL fan. I was the one who was saying a few days ago that there should be no more OLTL crossovers (certainly not Natalie, because that would get the fanbase screaming for other Buchanans) and not Blair (as much as I love Kassie DePaiva, because Carly is pretty much a carbon copy of Blair).

    As for “daring to say something against Todd”, he’s not a favorite of mine. I was saying the same thing when people were complaining that Starr was on every day. She’s not now. Todd’s frontburner now. He may not be in two months. That’s the way it goes.

    I’m not familiar with Soapzone and I don’t go to SOC because I have no respect for the person who runs it (unlike the people who run THIS site, whom I respect highly, but with whom I have had knock-down-drag-outs).

    I don’t look at those rankings, because I’m not the type of person who cares about that stuff. When I watch a soap, I don’t fast-forward, because you never know how the storylines are going to inter-twine, and I don’t want to miss anything that might affect the storylines that interest me more. I do understand the concept of airhogging (being a fan of The Cameron Matheson Show, er, I mean, All My Children). I just don’t get bothered by it all. He was on the show every day for years (except vacations), but that’s the way it is on soaps.

    You should pay more attention to soap couples beyond Carly and Johnny. MOST of them break up almost the instant the romance buildup is over. The one that stands out for me the most is actually a GH example…when Skye and Jax married. They broke up the day they married. She was Skye Jacks (chuckle) for, like, three hours! It’s that way with most couples. Something is always getting in the way. They only get to be happily married when they reach the ages of Edward and Lila, and then they are backburnered so far, they make Elizabeth seem like Erica Kane!

    Surely, you don’t think the term “short-sighted” is considered name-calling. (I guess “thin-skinned” would be, too, huh?)

    Again, as I wrote to Alex, no one is says you can’t “voice your opinion” about your show, so I don’t know why that keeps coming up. It’s not as though I sent you a computer virus that destroyed any computer that ever enters your home. Your opinion. My opinion. What’s the big deal?

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    ChrisGa

    [quote=Karissa]Really with EJ screwing every woman in town! Would any viewer by him as gay[/quote]

    Unless the writers do some major backstory retconning it’s doubtful(and even then I think it’d be hard to swallow). The EJ/Will dynamic is gold–though I don’t like that the writers seem to be trying to make Will into Sami 2.0, which is a big mistake–but I think TPTB are happy enough teasing the situation without following through on it in any real fashion(though I still think Will developing an attraction to/fantasizing about EJ isn’t completely unreasonable considering the glutton for punishment he seems to be). Still, I really want Will/Sonny to be the endgame; unfortunately, Sonny’s three-times-a-month appearances aren’t going to contribute much to that happening any time soon.

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    Transfigurationjc

    Thank you! GH sucks! YR is boring as watching paint dry at the moment. And they can put a nuclear missile in Marlena’s old grey weave if they want to but Im not going back to watching Days, lol.

    Same goes for The Hope, Steffy, Liam show aka Bold and Beautiful, lol.

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