PC #54: Snow White and the Hunchin'



On today’s Pop Confidential podcast Jamey Giddens, Luke Kerr, Jillian Bowe and Regan Cellura dive into the latest pop culture news, headlines and TV series storylines.

The Batman: Dark Knight Rises tragedy at a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado rocked the country. The PC gang weighs in on the tragic event.  Kristen Stewart was photographed cheating on Robert Pattinson and issued a head scratching statement. Are their relationship problems getting more coverage than deserved? The 2012 Summer Olympics kicked off with a cameo by James Bond star Daniel Craig.

TV lost an icon with the passing of Sherman Hemsley and the PC crew shares their favorite memories from The Jeffersons and Amen.  The team discusses the latest twists on TNT’s delicious Dallas. Political Animals reminds Luke of a political version of Brothers & Sisters.  Does True Blood need to refocus because it has too much going on? Dancing with the Stars announces the returning cast list for Dancing with the All-Stars.  The original Teen Mom is ending its run.

The Jackson family is acting out and Jillian says it’s a sad day when La Toya Jackson is providing the voice of reason. Is there a plot by Jackson siblings to get their hands on Michael Jackson’s money? Katherine Jackson went missing. Allegedly, Janet slapped Paris and Paris slapped Janet right back.  Did Janet go along to protect her own fortune from her brothers? A judge awarded Tito’s son TJ temporary custody of Michael Jackson’s three children.

All this and much more on today’s Pop Confidential podcast!

 

 

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I live in Denver and this shooting has been tragic. Sadly it hit close to home for a good friend of mine who is an elementary school teacher in Aurora. One of his students is the daughter of one of the women killed in the shooting. As far as young kids being in the theater at that time of day I have a different opinion. It's summer and with kids out of school I think its any parents prerogative to take their child to a much anticipated movie like Batman. It's hideous what happened either way and regardless of the ages of the patrons we can all agree it should have never happened.

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The Jackson family proves the old adage you can take the family out of the ghetto (Gary, IN) but you can't take the ghetto out of the family. Glad to hear Paris slapped the shit right back out of "Auntie" Janet!

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I am thoroughly enjoying your Podcast, GC crew!

The Aurora tragedy is heartbreaking. I read an article in the NYTimes last weekend about the history of violent movies from Warner Bros. Studios. Even back then there were reports of violent acts being blamed on the movies but one main difference is the tragedies back then were not compounded with the availability of high powered assault weapons for the average citizen. I know the old adage is that guns don't kill people, people kill people. But a high powered weapon kills many people as opposed to a knife which might kill one. I know sadly, this is something that will never fully be discussed. As heartbreaking as it is to think of the victims' abruptly ended lives, I would rather think of them as I no longer wish to even look at the perpetrator's face.

And I too miss those well written sitcoms-- I loved all of them. Amen, All In The Family, Good Times, The Jeffersons, Maude and yes, I loved Frasier too, although I really didn't get hold of the series until it was almost at an end (didn't watch much TV during its run). And of course, when I got the opportunity to read the scripts of some of these shows and took a Sitcom Writing course, I found new respect for people like Norman Lear and Bill Cosby, who constructed lean, rich scripts and really great shows.

I think the last really intelligent sitcom to feature a Black cast was probably A Different World. I've written a script or two for an idea that I had during Grad school but TV seems out of my depth-- I'm a theater person.

As for the Jacksons-- Mother of All That's Holy, WTH is going on with these folk?? I'm totally confused by this family dynamic-- family vs family. It's strange but I feel embarrassed for them and the stars of the Twilight movies (though I've never seen a single movie) because it is all so PAINFULLY PUBLIC.

Okay, I'll shut up now and finish listening to the Podcast (lol).

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I also wonder about Janet-- she doesn't seem to have a stake in this, but I think there has been a bit of a power struggle going on between Janet and Paris over the acting thing. Paris has mentioned in previous interviews how her Aunt Janet was giving her advice on pursuing an acting career, while Janet mentioned that she wished Paris would wait until she was at least 18, so I think part of it is a battle of wills that maybe maybe might be overlapping this whole family crisis.
What ever it all is, they need to resolve it and recede from the spotlight-- especially those non singing, non performing Jacksons (*coughs* Randy)

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@MsAgentProvocateur1: I'm outlining the drama series. Will have a treatment for you soon. Smile

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Wow, Okay david46208. I look forward to reading it. Smile

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Regarding "True Blood", I agree with Jamey and Jillian, that the power dynamic between Tara and Pam makes me uncomfortable because it is too parallel to the traditional American master-slave archetype. I know that I'm "supposed" to be uncomfortable; I know "True Blood" isn't painting Pam as a racist (She's not + she's in my top three on the show). However, the power dynamic is so reminiscent of the pre-Emancipation period in America that, like Jamey said, it causes flashbacks. It IS borderline offensive, but I think the writers are purposefully toying with our historical race concepts. No shade, but I had to cosign on that point because I didn't want it to get minimized or lost in translation. Still love you, though, Luke! Thanks for letting me get that off my chest...

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@Jamey: About DALLAS ignoring that Chris is a Shepard. I actually heard that Chris isn't supposed to know who is biological parents are. He just knows that he was soled as a baby. Never found out that Kristen was his mama. Yet. Wink

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Totally agree regarding True Blood; much like seasons 3 and 4, too many plotlines that never dovetail(not to mention a couple that nobody cares about i.e. the Terry/smoke monster crap). I'd be good if it wrapped up next season.

Regarding Political Animals, Dallas and the Newsroom, I'm enjoying all three. The Newsroom is unbelievably good, from the flawless acting--and not a single bad character in the bunch--right down to the ridiculously sharp writing; it's my fave of the three. Political Animals is also very good, I think more for the acting than some of the writing, though I don't like Ciaran Hinds' over-the-top scenery chewing and frankly am not overly crazy about Ellen Burstyn's character either. However I can get past that because I love the criminally underrated Carla Gugino in everything she does and because James Wolk is one of my new lust crushes(along with Joel McHale and David Muir from ABC News--what can I say, I like a wide variety Wink); here's hoping for a second season. As for Dallas, it's enjoyable even though the lightning fast pace is occasionally annoying. For me, Josh Henderson is the breakout of this show; he's so far and away superior to Metcalfe and Brewster(who are both adequate but nothing more), not to mention he can actually keep up with the veterans for the most part. It's a good, very solid old school soap(which we need more of).

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@Soapjunkie Christopher knows who his bio parents are. Rebecca touched upon that during an episode.

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Jon wrote:

The Jackson family proves the old adage you can take the family out of the ghetto (Gary, IN) but you can't take the ghetto out of the family. Glad to hear Paris slapped the shit right back out of "Auntie" Janet!

http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/01/janet-jackson-did-not-slap-or-verbally-abu...

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Jillian Bowe wrote:
@Soapjunkie Christopher knows who his bio parents are. Rebecca touched upon that during an episode.

Rebecca just told Christopher that his bio parents gave him up. That Chris knows. But he doesn't know who they were.

I'm going to see if I find that interview. Wink

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J Bernard Jones wrote:
http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/01/janet-jackson-did-not-slap-or-verbally-abuse-paris-jackson/

For that reason, I'm glad I don't get my news from TMZ. Yes, they got the scoop about Michael Jackson's death earlier than all of the other news media outlets but C'mon, now, TMZ is a Paparazzi driven organization.

The only clip I saw was Janet holding up what looked to be a Smart phone, perhaps she was upset about the tweets. I do agree that someone should have called these kids and let them know where their Grandmother was for all those days, but I don't know whether I fully believed anyone's side of the story. One reason: why haven't we heard from the eldest-- Prince Michael? He's been pretty Mum. Did he know where Grandma was? Perhaps Paris was the elected spokesperson for the kids? Then there was footage of Grandma and Grandkids rockin' out at the Jackson's concert. I don't know about anyone else but I'm confused. I don't think the issue is as clear cut as many are making it out to be.

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MsAgentProvocateur1 wrote:

I do agree that someone should have called these kids and let them know where their Grandmother was for all those days, but I don't know whether I fully believed anyone's side of the story. One reason: why haven't we heard from the eldest-- Prince Michael? He's been pretty Mum.

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-07-26/news/555-5555_1_prince-michae...

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ChrisGa I totally agree about Josh Henderson. He is far superior to the other younger cast members and is actually doing well in his scenes with the vets.

As for Newsroom, I FLOVE that show but they need to tone down the obvious liberal bent AND they need to make the female characters a little less ditzy.

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Jillian Bowe wrote:

@Soapjunkie Christopher knows who his bio parents are. Rebecca touched upon that during an episode.

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Rebecca just told Christopher that his bio parents gave him up. That Chris knows. But he doesn't know who they were.

This is a tricky one without going back to watch the original series, but it is very likely that Christopher in fact does know that his parents are Kristin and Jeff Faraday. Christopher had learned he was adopted a couple of years earlier and it was a big recurring storyline on the show for several years. Then there is this, from the Ultimate Dallas website:

"Later that same year Jeff Farradays sister Lisa Alden appeared in Dallas and took Bobby to court for custody of Christopher. Christopher tells the judge that he doesn’t want to be separated from his father, and Lisa decides to drop her case."

At some point, Christopher had to have been told. (Again, I haven't seen these episodes in ages, but I think he's known who his parents are for a long time, especially given his notorious mother and the circumstances of his birth/adoption.)

http://www.ultimatedallas.com/dallasnews/2012/02/25/christopher-ewing-bi...

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Cynthia's going by the original series and not the movies so he knows who his bio kin is.....

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Just finished the podcast and I LOVED IT!!!

I wanted to provide an unpopular opinion regarding "Dallas"... While I love the show and agree that the females, for the most part, are the weaker links as far as acting...I also think that John Ross has issues too. The actor is great, but I don't buy him being as evil as JR. I mean....has he been able to pull off anything successfully without having to cry to JR? He hasn't established himself as a badazz on his own merit. Meanwhile, Christopher has shown that he can make his own choices and they are often good ones. Christopher has won (i.e. getting John Ross out of hot water). John Ross will plot and scheme and fail..and then cry to mommy or daddy for help. That doesn't make me feel like JR's legacy is in good hands.

That being said...i LOVE "Newsroom"!! Yes, he does get preachy...but I don't think he is liberal preachy. I think his preachiness is focus on what the role of the news media should be in politics and where they are lacking. I think whether he is liberal or conservative is secondary...or at least that is how I see the show.

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J Bernard Jones wrote:

MsAgentProvocateur1 wrote:http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-07-26/news/555-5555_1_prince-michael-rebbie-jackson-janet-jackson

Thanks for the link, J Bernard Jones. Unfortunately the link appears to be broken but I found it anyway by doing a simple search.

I feel bad for these kids. Say what you will about Michael, but for years he tried to keep them from the craziness but now they're all in the midst of the madness.
Welcome to the Jackson Funhouse Prince Michael, Paris and Blanket.