Days of Our Lives Star Melissa Reeves Tweeted Support During Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day


 




NBC's Days of Our Lives may have made great strides in supporting the LGBT community by penning a powerful coming out story for Will Horton (Chandler Massey), but apparently one of the soap's top stars would rather eat chicken than see gay people afforded equality. Melissa Reeves, who has played the mega popular role of Jennifer Rose Horton Deveraux on the sudser on and off since 1985, tweeted support for Chick-fil-A on Wednesday.

The fast food chain has been under fire for years, due to the millions it has donated to anti-LGBT rights causes. Most recently, Chick-fil-A's COO Dan Cathy confirmed his stance against gay marriage in an interview with the publication Blblical Recorder, resulting in calls from civil rights groups to boycott Chick-fil-A. I guess Reeves sees absolutely nothing wrong with the chain working so hard to deny 10 percent of the population their civil rights. She tweeted:

 

 



 


Reeves is absolutely right. She should be able to express her freedom of speech any way she sees fit. Just like I am free in this country to turn the channel from Days of Our Lives anytime her character comes on my screen — which is exactly what I plan to do.

254 Responses

  1. Avatar of Freerhythm
    Freerhythm

    Okay, so she has every right to her opinion. However, (and I know I’m bringing up old news now, but a soap opera fan’s memory is very very long) considering that she cheated on the BEAUTIFUL Scott Reeves, I doubt she should be defending “traditional” marriage.

    I mean, c’mon Missy, is marriage between a man and a woman, or between a man, a woman, and a poor excuse for a Jack Devereaux re-cast?

  2. Avatar of bishbay
    bishbay

    Amazing that she’s still a fundy freak after having been made by her crazy husband to confess her sins in front of their congregation. She must absolutely hate herself–as well as many of her fellow Americans who love differently than she does, it seems. Ah, well, Missy, it’s not like they’re writing for you right now anyway, so I won’t even have to miss many Days scenes in order to avoid your ass.

  3. Avatar of MeghannOC
    MeghannOC

    Oh yuck, if there is one thing I can’t stand it’s hypocrisy. I’m personally of the religion of spreading love, not hate…. One of my lovely christian friends once posted this on twitter:

    “We as Christians need to tell the world what we believe in rather than what we don’t believe in.”

    Perhaps MR should use that free speech to share something positive…

  4. Avatar of soapjunkie88
    soapjunkie88

    “Reeves is absolutely right. She should be able to express her freedom of speech any way she sees fit. Just like I am free in this country to turn the channel from Days of Our Lives anytime her character comes on my screen — which is exactly what I plan to do.”

    So do I.

    I like to add that it’s not a matter of free speech. It’s about unequal rights and she publicly tells us that she supports it, which is more than sad…

    Done with her.

  5. Avatar of Richard
    Richard

    You people are missing the point. Did you actually read her tweet. It’s about freedom of speech more than gay marriage. Every marriage has its ups and downs. The fact that she and her husband have stayed together this long in spite of anything that happened within their marriage is remarkable. Wishing her death or that she chokes on her food is the epitomy of ignorance. Maybe you all really should stop watching her on Days and pick up a book, if you know how to read.

    (BTW, Freerythm, your “long memory” is incorrect about the Jack recast.)

  6. Avatar of thebookerman
    thebookerman

    1) Marriage is not a “right” for anyone.
    2) Chick-fil-A does not discriminate against gay people. Gay people are allowed to eat and work for the company, and express them freely.
    3) Marriage is a term defined as a man and woman sharing their life together. States have every right to decide whether or not that can be CHANGED to include a man and a man, or a woman and a woman.
    4) No one is stopping gay people from living together, having a family and being happy. Because of that EVERYONE HAS EQUAL RIGHTS IN AMERICA.
    5) Some states just feel that the term marriage does not apply to gay people. I would have liked to be the valedictorian in school, but my grades didn’t qualify me. I was born that way though, so shouldn’t I be able to be valedictorian too? Shouldn’t I be able to be a starting quarterback in the NFL too?

    I love how gay people claim others are close-minded, but then refuse to accept any position different than theirs. Anytime anyone disagrees it is followed by death threats, boycotts and more utter nonsense.

  7. Avatar of evermore
    evermore

    No, Richard, we understand her point quite well. Of the thousands of free speech examples she could support, she picked this one; it wasn’t random, and she’s otherwise no advocate of free speech

  8. Avatar of soapjunkie88
    soapjunkie88

    @thebookerman: Maybe they refuse to accept positions like yours, because they feel insulted that gays don’t have the same rights as heterosexuals. How is it possible for a country in the 21 century to react that way?

    Chick-fil-A is known for their comments about the LGBT community – their anti-gay comments. So to say that they not discriminate gay people is ignorant. I don’t feel comfortable to work or eat in a company that is against my sexual orientation, a company that takes an active part against gays.

    I don’t even want to talk about your comment about being a quarterback. I don’t even know what this has to do with giving gays the right to get married.
    The term of marriage is defined between a man and a woman!? Well with all the gay people out there it is sad that it is.

    And people in this country should finally understand that teenager – KIDS – … they kill themselves because they don’t feel accepted. Because there are companies like Chick-fil-A who are telling them that something is wrong with them – that they should be ashamed and that they shouldn’t have the same privilege as someone who’s heterosexual.

  9. Avatar of SoapArmageddon
    SoapArmageddon

    thebookerman, you continue to be a homophobic ignoramus despite previous attempts by several posters to educate you. Everyone DOES NOT have equal rights when only some of us can participate in a legally-binding social institution, i.e. marriage.

    What makes a society truly great is when its minorities enjoy the same access to rights and privileges that the majority enjoy.

  10. Avatar of avirtue
    avirtue

    @thebookerman: I so agree with this post. Those who espouse tolerance seem to be the most intolerant.

    Gay marriage supporters believe what they believe and those who support traditional, biblical views of marriage are also allowed to believe what they believe.

    Chick fil A and Missy Reeves have the right to their views and to support them monetarily if wanted – Just as everyone in AMERICA does. Calling Ms. Reeves trash, ignorant and other nasty names, just shows how hateful those accusing her of hate are.

  11. Avatar of Lonesome Rhodes
    Lonesome Rhodes

    I read the tweet. I think people are reading to much into it. People are making assumptions about her motives in this and treating them as fact. Maybe it was just about free speech for her.

  12. Avatar of WickedThoughts
    WickedThoughts

    I’m not sure why anyone is surprised that she has these views. Her and her hubby are hardcore dedicated Christians who believe the bible is the word of God. According to their bible marriage is between a man and woman. So why in the world did any think they wouldn’t be supportive of someone that shares their beliefs.

    It’s funny on Monday everyone loved Missy even though they knew how strong her Christian faith was. By Wednesday she is now a racist homophobe scum we should scrap off our shoes…really??

    So when does the stoning begin….cause there are a few other GHers that I’m sure share those same views.

  13. Avatar of SoapArmageddon
    SoapArmageddon

    What “traditional, biblical view of marriage” do you religious zealots keep referring to?

    Is it the one in which Moses had sex with a servant girl because his wife couldn’t have children?

    Or the one in which David and Solomon married hundreds of women?

    Or the one in which a man should marry his brother’s widow?

  14. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    Chick-Fil-A supports FRC which is a lobbying group that supports a Bill in UGANDA that would allow Uganda Govt to round up all gays & KILL THEM. Just like Hitker did wioth the jewish in WW2. Is that Ok to murder someone because of their sexuality. That is the BIGGER ISSUE here. MR indirectly supports this. Maybe she doesnt know. Maybe she should have done research. I personally dont care if U agree with marriage equality but when you guys stick up for a company that gives money that helps to murder Gays and Lesbians, that is not acceptable and needs to be called out.
    GOD who you seem to preach here, would not want this. So before you start spouting its what GOD wants maybe do some research as well Avirtue & TheBookerman

  15. Avatar of SavePortChuck
    SavePortChuck

    Ummm… it’s more than just free speech you idiot…

    “Chick-fil-A has donated at least $5 million to organizations (including a certified hate group) that, among other things, depict gay people as pedophiles, want to make “gay behavior” illegal, and even say gay people should be “exported” out of America.

  16. Avatar of rlshel1015
    rlshel1015

    If MR had just said that she supports CFAs right to free speech then that’s one thing. however, she said that she ate there and put her money into a place that uses it’s profits to deny rights to others. you can stand up for the right to free speech but she spat in the face of the gay community when she boasted about buying food there. it’s easy for her to talk about free speech and rights when she has probably now known a day of prejudice in her life. i am no longer a fan of LaReeves.

  17. Avatar of avirtue
    avirtue

    @appleridge:
    That Ugandan bill from 2009 was introduced by a Ugandan politician and not supported by Chick Fil A. It wasn’t Exodus International (the group Chick Fil A supports) nor any other group who murdered the innocent activist it was not a man of God nor a man who had any morals at all. It was person filled with immorality who grabs onto a cause or issue and takes it in the other direction. Don’t twist this at Christians or Chick-fil-a.

    Chik fil a revenue: $4 billion
    Total Donation to Family Research Council: $1000
    Total Donation to Exodus International: $1000

  18. Avatar of
    jezza

    thebookerman, Your arguments are weak, and your analogies are sorely lacking. First of all, becoming a valedictorian is not anyone’s birthright. You are not born into it. You work toward it. You weren’t born with grades that didn’t qualify you to be valedictorian. You earned them. But it’s open to everyone. Anyone who is enrolled in high school and graduates is eligible to be valedictorian. You do not automatically become ineligible to be valedictorian because of your sexual preference. That makes it infinitely different from marriage.

    So what exactly is your point then?

    As for the definition of marriage, I don’t understand how that is even relevant. The institution of marriage was created in an entirely different time in a society different from the one we live in today. If you’re so stuck on tradition and the spirit in which marriage was created, should we go back to wives basically having no rights, being obligated to love, honor and OBEY their husbands? That’s pretty much how it was back then. In that sense, marriage has evolved over time, and it can evolve further. Just because it was created as an institution between men and women does not mean that it can’t evolve and be adapted to suit a changing society. Personally, I have no interest in marriage, but as Eminem said (and I paraphrase), gay people should have the same privilege as straight people to be miserable.

    As for whether it should be up to the states to decide, I’m all for states rights, but with so much mobility between states, it makes more sense to have a nationwide edict regarding gay marriage. It was done in Argentina while I was living there, and as far as I know, your precious institution of marriage remains perfectly in tact in Argentina and in all the other countries where it is now legal.

    “Living together, having a family and being happy” is a nice way to put what gay people in the U.S. are allowed to do, but that does not grant gay couples the same benefits as legal marriage, and I’m tired of people pretending to be fine with gay people while denying their relationships the same legal protection as those of straight people.

    As for those who hide behind the “free speech” argument, it’s time to give that one a rest, too. It’s so obvious, so trite, that it’s actually saying absolutely nothing. Yes, a racist who runs around declaring black people inferior and hurling the N-word is entitled to his or her opinion, but you express them at your own risk. I’m not defending the death threats, but if you have an inalienable right to express your distaste for gay marriage (and anyone who thinks Melissa Reeves was speaking in generalities probably buys Billie as Kate’s daughter on Days), I have an inalienable right to criticize you for it. And a boycott seems like a perfectly reasonable decision.

    I’ve always been a fan of Melissa Reeves, but after reading her smug tweet, I would be perfectly fine seeing her off the show permanently. It’s not like that’s not where things are heading, considering her recently dwindling screen time.

  19. Avatar of thebookerman
    thebookerman

    @SoapJunkie:

    Google’s definition for discrimination: The unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, esp. on the grounds of race, age, or sex.

    Show me where he treated a single gay person in an unjust way. The CEO has spoken out on gay marriage, it is his opinion, but he has NEVER stopped a gay person from eating or working at Chick-fil-A.

    He is also following his religious beliefs. If his religion believes homosexuality is a sin, and gay people want to boycott a restaurant because of it, THEY are the ones discriminating.

    For the record, I am neither for nor against gay marriage. I am not gay, nor am I a politician, thus I have no opinion on the issue.

    Again, no one is stopping gay people from having everything a married couple can EXCEPT the actual title. Many people are denied titles in real life, job promotions, money, relationships etc. but they are NOT denied anything that a married couple is. (Do not mention anything about tax breaks to me either. I’ll gladly provide some strategies to a gay couple as to how they can get the same breaks. Feel free to PM me about that.)

  20. Avatar of soapfan616
    soapfan616

    Bravo, Jamey. I may not agree with you about GH but I always love when you speak up regarding these sorts of issues!

    And I would encourage all those who are throwing the term “Free Speech” around to go look up what it really means in America. There’s a great article on CNN.com today that explains exactly what it is and isn’t.

    But what this whole issue is really about is supporting a company who actively gives money to hate groups who bash gays. This soap “star” not only chose to support that company but appears to be proud of the fact. This isn’t just about gay marriage. It’s about alarming rates of teenage suicide among gay people. It’s about discrimination in the work place (yes it’s STILL legal in many states for employers to discriminate against gay).

    She’s no more a Free Speech advocate than I am the reincarnation of Cleopatra. She’s a slinger of hate who attempts to justify that hate by wrapping herself in her warped view of Christianity and hiding behind her illiterate understanding of what Free Speech is.

    Yes, she has the right to Free Speech. Yes, the Chicken bigot has the right to say what he wants too. And the US Constitution protects them from government backlash. It does not however protect them from other people speaking out against them. It does not protect them from boycotts because they are peddling chicken and using the money to support hate. It does not protect them from organized boycotts of DAYS as long as this actress is on it.

    They spoke out. Consumers and soap fans alike will speak out as well. And consumers and soap fans have the ability to chose their products and shows accordingly.

  21. Avatar of Koneill
    Koneill

    I can’t say that I am surprised by her words. I know her and her husband are VERY religious and that group of people (which includes one of my sisters and my mother) tend to disagree with gay marriage.
    As for her stating her opinion, good for her, but I bet the bosses over at NBC wish she would have just kept her opinion to herself because now its a PR nightmare for DAYS…

  22. Avatar of soapfan616
    soapfan616

    [quote=thebookerman]@SoapJunkie:

    Google’s definition for discrimination: The unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, esp. on the grounds of race, age, or sex.

    Show me where he treated a single gay person in an unjust way. The CEO has spoken out on gay marriage, it is his opinion, but he has NEVER stopped a gay person from eating or working at Chick-fil-A.

    He is also following his religious beliefs. If his religion believes homosexuality is a sin, and gay people want to boycott a restaurant because of it, THEY are the ones discriminating.

    For the record, I am neither for nor against gay marriage. I am not gay, nor am I a politician, thus I have no opinion on the issue.

    Again, no one is stopping gay people from having everything a married couple can EXCEPT the actual title. Many people are denied titles in real life, job promotions, money, relationships etc. but they are NOT denied anything that a married couple is. (Do not mention anything about tax breaks to me either. I’ll gladly provide some strategies to a gay couple as to how they can get the same breaks. Feel free to PM me about that.)[/quote]

    ****

    When you quoted Google, you lost whatever credibility you had left. What’s next, the Wikipedia take on Free Speech? And no, it’s not discrimination for consumers to pick and chose what products they consume based on their belief system. That’s like my saying someone discriminates against Clorox because they prefer a natural cleaner. No one desires to take away her rights. No one desires to take away the chicken bigot’s right to spew his bigotry. Yet, some seem to want to take away the consumer’s right to respond to their bigotry by boycotting their products.

  23. Avatar of soapfan616
    soapfan616

    [quote=WickedThoughts]I’m not sure why anyone is surprised that she has these views. Her and her hubby are hardcore dedicated Christians who believe the bible is the word of God. According to their bible marriage is between a man and woman. So why in the world did any think they wouldn’t be supportive of someone that shares their beliefs.

    It’s funny on Monday everyone loved Missy even though they knew how strong her Christian faith was. By Wednesday she is now a racist homophobe scum we should scrap off our shoes…really??

    So when does the stoning begin….cause there are a few other GHers that I’m sure share those same views.[/quote]

    *****

    What Bible are you referring to? What Bible is SHE reading? I must have missed the part where Jesus condemned homosexuality. A bigot hiding behind her warped view of Christianity is STILL a bigot!

  24. Avatar of Ares27
    Ares27

    1)Definition of Rights – legal, social, or ethical principles of freedom or entitlement. So yes, it’s a right that is being denied.

    2)Chick Fil-A does discriminate against gay people by donating money
    to organizations that discriminate and try to destroy the rights
    of gay people.

    3) Well until a few years ago African American people where not allowed to use the same restrooms, water fountains and forced to the back of the bus.
    Some laws are just plain wrong along with hating people or discriminating against a group of people for something they can’t change. Brings the Jewish genocide to mind.

    4)Hello! We’re talking about marriage, not living together. Being married
    gives you rights to make decisions for your spouse medical wise and other rights that married people have.

    5)Seriously?!! Your analogy is flawed. Just because someone is lazy and won’t study is not the same as being denied a right for who you are.

    I don’t know who you talk to but if you are smart and can reason,
    I will listen. Boycotts are a form of protest in case you don’t know.
    The other stuff I don’t agree with, death treats, being nasty and such.

    xoxo

  25. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    CFA gives $$$$ to a group that supports that bill. So yes CFA does support it even if its indirectly as doers anyone who eats at CFA since its their monies CFA uses to support FRC who inturn supports the Uganda bill.

  26. Avatar of david46208
    david46208

    @Everyone: Melissa, from where I sit is on the side of free speech. So am I. No one has to agree with what the Chick-fil-A, head said. But Americans have the the first amendment freedom of speech even when anyone doe not agree.

    So it is very hyperbolic to suggest that Melissa Reeves is against gays if she has simply implied that she is pro free speech.

  27. Avatar of soapfan616
    soapfan616

    [quote=thebookerman]1) Marriage is not a “right” for anyone.
    2) Chick-fil-A does not discriminate against gay people. Gay people are allowed to eat and work for the company, and express them freely.
    3) Marriage is a term defined as a man and woman sharing their life together. States have every right to decide whether or not that can be CHANGED to include a man and a man, or a woman and a woman.
    4) No one is stopping gay people from living together, having a family and being happy. Because of that EVERYONE HAS EQUAL RIGHTS IN AMERICA.
    5) Some states just feel that the term marriage does not apply to gay people. I would have liked to be the valedictorian in school, but my grades didn’t qualify me. I was born that way though, so shouldn’t I be able to be valedictorian too? Shouldn’t I be able to be a starting quarterback in the NFL too?

    I love how gay people claim others are close-minded, but then refuse to accept any position different than theirs. Anytime anyone disagrees it is followed by death threats, boycotts and more utter nonsense.[/quote]

    *****

    No matter if you put it in caps lock or put it in 100 font, everyone in America does not have equal rights. That statement and the rest of your post is devoid of logic and truth.

  28. Avatar of Transfigurationjc
    Transfigurationjc

    I’m proud of Melissa and Chick Fil A for standing up for what they believe. It’s about free speech. The Gay Rights Lobby made this a controversy and it back fired on them and bit them in their collective butts!

    Chick Fil A appreciation day was an overwhelming success around the nation. Thank goodness this country hasnt allowed the radical leftist agenda to bully them into submission.

  29. Avatar of The_Moustache
    The_Moustache

    i like the Chick-Fil-A original chicken sandwich, but that’s pretty much the only thing from the menu i like. their other offering don’t quite stack up to the other fast-food chains.

  30. Avatar of bishbay
    bishbay

    It’s interesting that the homophobes on this thread are trying to claim that this isn’t about gay rights, only free speech. It’s simply not true, but it does suggest that homophobes are hesitant about being honest with their hatred and disgust for gay people. Progress, of a sort.

  31. Avatar of JASAMMABBY
    JASAMMABBY

    Hmm- I am hoping I say this correctly.. I grew up in Sn Franciso with a very hippie mama and a mega conservative father. I have had and still have many gay friends. They have always understood my view point and still love me for it. I do not believe in gay marriage just because of my heavy church upbringing. My natural gut reaction is to think marriage is between a man and a women. However a bigger belief for me is civil rights. It is not my place or any others place to make a judgement on how someone chooses to live their lives. I also don’t think gay marriage is an issue to be voted on- civil rights are just that rights. What if at this moment law makers decided to give it another go around and see if women really had a right to vote..

    Saying that I do believe the chicken issue here for some people is just a freedom of speech issue. They have a right to give their money to who they want and we have the right to not visit their business. She has the right to say what she wants and we have the right to not be her fan..

    Also on that note if you are going to limit where private sectors send their money then I think the same should be done for unions who donate to put their people in office. How is that not buying a vote..

  32. Avatar of isiola
    isiola

    It really is all about FREE SPEECH….I know many gay people..family members too…bottom line is we should all be allowed to speak freely and those that hide behind the fact that is not free speech…bull…where is the ACLU …awfully quiet…hypocrites too!!!…we are blessed to live in a free country and many stars exercise their right to speak freely …The audacity of those that don’t like it is ridiculous!!!…I hope that those small minded people will change their minds & realize what it is all about…if not let them remain small minded and live in their sad little world!

  33. Avatar of soapfan616
    soapfan616

    [quote=Transfigurationjc]I’m proud of Melissa and Chick Fil A for standing up for what they believe. It’s about free speech. The Gay Rights Lobby made this a controversy and it back fired on them and bit them in their collective butts!

    Chick Fil A appreciation day was an overwhelming success around the nation. Thank goodness this country hasnt allowed the radical leftist agenda to bully them into submission.[/quote]

    *****

    And I’m proud of you for proving in one post that you haven’t a clue!

  34. Avatar of Jon
    Jon

    I believe in gay rights, free speech AND Chick-fil-A! If you don’t agree with the way the owner of Chick-fil-A chooses to spend his own money, by all means don’t patronize his restaurants. There are many businesses/organizations I refuse to support. I don’t resort to threats/bullying/name calling.

  35. Avatar of storm28
    storm28

    Some people should learn to keep quiet on certain issues, you look a little stupid preaching the sanctity of marriage when it’s a well known fact you couldn’t even respect your own.

  36. Avatar of seascape70
    seascape70

    Maybe Carly could come back for the GF role. ;-)

    I want to “believe” that MR did not make this statement as it hit too close to home. Her tweet (if it was her) was related to a business and we are reading between the lines… However if true, I supported her as a fan when the rumours spread about why she left Days while Jason Brooks was on and I do feel that she was the heart of the show.

    If her statement was against equality, then I could never think of her the same way. We always loved MR and Jennifer but this was below the belt.

    Acceptance of yourself and others is a big step MR.

  37. Avatar of samanthadelayed
    samanthadelayed

    I always love how people hide behind their freedom of religion when they want to feel better about their hate. I am a Christian and I want people to have equal rights. CFA can do and say anything they want, but that doesn’t mean I have to support them. If the rumors about MR are true then she really doesn’t care about the sanctity of marriage and should just stay out of this debate. And from what I can tell, her gay fans are more hurt than angry that she would say what she said on twitter… The same way any of us would if someone supported a group that wanted to take our rights away from us.

  38. Avatar of Dariclone
    Dariclone

    That beautiful Jennifer Rose is a Christian fudementalist? That hurts my heart! Still it sounds like she went through a horrible time with her ex-husband. No one deserves that!
    Transfigurationtonic: Interesting name for a fundementilist. :)

  39. Avatar of SoapArmageddon
    SoapArmageddon

    And this gay former fan of Melissa Reeves will be exercising my right to free speech by asking my seven hundred facebook friends to tweat, email, etc. to demand that NBC, Sony, and Corday Productions fire her.

  40. Avatar of Ryan-Scott
    Ryan-Scott

    I have read that tomorrow kiss-ins are planned at these restaurants and if I had a man I would go to the one 40 minutes from where I live and fucking do this.
    I bet Melissa will get really hot and twisted when these happen tomorrow.

    To quote the final GL opening: Only love will save the world…
    :beer:

  41. Avatar of soapjunkie88
    soapjunkie88

    @thebookerman: Do you even know what you are talking about? Honest question! So you are telling me that Chick-fil-A and it’s CEO are not discriminating people!? The company is supporting right-wing conservatives who think that homosexuals and pedophiles are basically the same and that rather have a death sentence for gay people – you are telling me they are not discriminating gays? It’s just their opinion? You got to be kidding.

    This company is threatening people with who they support!!!! Look at the organizations that are tied to Chick-fil-A. It’s one thing to not support gay marriage. It’s another to want gay people locked away and what else.

    And IF he is following his Christian beliefs than I think that God would be very disappointed in him. Having your values is one thing. Hating on a group of people is another. Haven’t read anything that says God wants you to hate gays or that God wants you to “pray them away”.

    For someone with no opinion – as you say – you have a very strong one. As some said before, your comments can be seen as homophobic and ignorant. Because you are not seeing the issue. You try to defend someone that proved to be a bully and racist.
    As I said, it’s one thing to be against gay marriage. But that’s not the entire story with Chick-fil-A. They are against gays!!! It’s proven through comments and the people the company and their CEO – outspoken – support. That’s the issue.

  42. Avatar of Missyem
    Missyem

    What I have been reading here is people believe that she is not entitled to believe how she does. That is wrong. Everybody is entitled to their beliefs, it is a given that not everybody will agree, so what, move on and get over it. It also appears to me that the gay individuals who have posted are out for blood, how does that make you any better than the people you feel have wronged you in some way? She should lose her job? Her life?!?! Wake up people, there are way more important things (in my opinion) going on in this world than a daytime television actresses personal opinion. I would like to see people as worked up about the hungry, abused, neglected kids all around us & doing something about that rather than about what one chicken sandwich guy said or believes.

  43. Avatar of GHteenybopper
    GHteenybopper

    How is that the homosexuals want the freedom and rights that as humans they ARE entitled too, but the minute someone disagrees with their lifestyle that person becomes the devil?

    They gays have their right to belief in what they believe, but so does everyone else. Boycotting the show Melissa Reeves is on because her belief system is different than that of the gays is incredibly hypocritical. Homosexuals are now able to get married (at least here in all of Canada…not to sure about all the states), you can’t watch a single show without homosexuality being promoted or discussed, which helps educate the public who may have been ignorant about that particular lifestyle before, and then you have a few religious people who come out in support of a restaurant without saying anything negative about homosexuality and suddenly they’re homophobic, give me a break.

    It’s not fair for homosexuals to complain about their rights, when they complain about others expressing their rights.

  44. Avatar of bishbay
    bishbay

    For the record, there has been one (ill-advised) death wish and one wish for her to be fired–hardly the majority of comments disagreeing with her.

  45. Avatar of SoapArmageddon
    SoapArmageddon

    Being gay is not a choice, a lifestyle, nor a belief. It is an identity. When you support those who actively seek to deny or deprive someone of the rights they are entitled to as human beings, you do not deserve anyone’s respect or consideration.

  46. Avatar of Ryan-Scott
    Ryan-Scott

    Frightening…

    For those who think it’s ok for MR to endorse this shithouse, read about just what that shithouse supports.
    If you still find it ok, my sympathy card is in the mail.

  47. Avatar of Missyem
    Missyem

    One of each (personal threats) is one too many. I am not couting but I think there is a greater number of posters that disagree than agree with her. Looking at the bigger picture this CFA controversy has been blown out of proportion and there are more important issues out there we need to worry about.

  48. Avatar of thebookerman
    thebookerman

    [quote=SoapArmageddon]Being gay is not a choice, a lifestyle, nor a belief. It is an identity. When you support those who actively seek to deny or deprive someone of the rights they are entitled to as human beings, you do not deserve anyone’s respect or consideration.[/quote]

    And when you deny people the right to make laws and have an opinion you are denying an even more fundamental right.

    No one is stopping people from being gay. Not Chick-fil-A, not anyone.

  49. Avatar of Robbyrob
    Robbyrob

    Melissa’s tweet felt like a gut punch to me. It was an extra dig that it was all about freedom of speech. Yeah right! Both Melissa and Steve Reeves have gay fans and I just feel so let down. Chick Fil A is more than just opposed to gay marriage. They contribute mega money to anti gay organizations….especially after yesterdays love in. I’m surprised she didn’t quit Days over its Will storyline. Why don’t both Melissa and Steve just get ordained already? Both GH and Days have gay boss’ too. Also when did Melissa get so sainted herself? Please send Jennifer on a one way trip to far, far away and maybe she can pick up GH’s Steve too! All the good Days has done with its Will story is now teetering on collapse.

  50. Avatar of GaryJr
    GaryJr

    You people are missing the point. Did you actually read her tweet. It’s about freedom of speech more than gay marriage. Every marriage has its ups and downs. The fact that she and her husband have stayed together this long in spite of anything that happened within their marriage is remarkable. Wishing her death or that she chokes on her food is the epitomy of ignorance. Maybe you all really should stop watching her on Days and pick up a book, if you know how to read.

    I love how some people hide behind: “I support free speech!” banner (when it suits their bigotry of course). While some people might think it comes down to the marriage issue…that $5,000,000 he spent was for anti-gay causes which aren’t exclusive to marriage rights. In the end that money ends up influencing people right on down the line; it legitimizes hate in some simple-minded people’s eyes and the end result is bullying on the playground & in schools… which could lead to violence and/or suicide. People need to realize their actions have consequences they might not even have dreamt of coming to pass. Supporting this fast food establishment and then bragging about it only has one result: tearing gay & lesbian and non-gay & lesbian families apart. Maybe you should EDUCATE YOURSELF RICHARD!

  51. Avatar of Spins Vixenella
    Spins Vixenella

    Here’s how Freedom of Speech works in America: Melissa Reeves is free to express her beliefs in written or spoken word on Twitter, and she is free to use her social influence or the money she earns to economically support her beliefs which apparently includes eating at Chick-fil-A. By the same token, everyone else is also similarly free to express their beliefs verbally or in written form, and they too are free to use their money, influence, etc. to promote their beliefs.

    There is absolutely nothing wrong in anyone expressing their belief that Melissa is wrong, including boycotts. Freedom of Speech does not include death threats, and there is some question as to the extent the First Amendment protects vile, vulgar language in public forums, but freedom of speech has traditionally included economic boycotts.

    I see nothing wrong with those who disagree with Melissa Reeves exercising THEIR Freedom of Speech including boycotting her or her show in order to denounce her actions, absent the use of death threats and with language appropriate to the forum. That’s the beauty of Free Speech, it works BOTH WAYS.

    Melissa Reeves knew what she was doing when she chose the venue, format, & content in which to exercise her Free Speech last night on Twitter. I am not a fan of bullying or personal attacks, so I don’t particularly enjoy watching folks go after Melissa Reeves using those tactics; however, to the extent those attacks do not violate cyber-stalking or other laws, the choice of how an individual will respond to Melissa is a moral question each person much answer for themselves, but Freedom of Speech encompasses their right to do so.

    Here’s my Free Speech contribution: I support the SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE 4 ALL, gay, straight, or soap star. Let she who is without sin cast the first stone.

  52. Avatar of Robbyrob
    Robbyrob

    Hyperbolic???? Those chicken lovers are hiding under the free speech rant that Huckabee thought of. She choose the day of the love in to send that out. Those dollars help spread anti gay bigotry…especially in Africa. Is it OK for one million moms to boycott everything that mentions the word gay? They mostly get a free pass. They wanted Ellen fired! Sorry, your argument falls flat.

  53. Avatar of Katiebug9624
    Katiebug9624

    I’m sorry but I am SICK of being reminded by hateful bigots that I don’t have the same rights as them. Chick Fil A might not of intended for it to look this way but lots of people in my area took this as a chance to show Gay people they hated them not just because we want to get married and have the same rights but they JUDGED us just like Jesus said not to do.

    This is discrimination and if it were against Hispanics or African Americans more people would be up in arms.

  54. Avatar of GaryJr
    GaryJr

    I love how gay people claim others are close-minded, but then refuse to accept any position different than theirs. Anytime anyone disagrees it is followed by death threats, boycotts and more utter nonsense.

    I love how bigots claim we need to chill out when no one is tearing their families apart. No one is denying then over 1400 legal rights afforded staight marries (Civil unions don’t and can’t address those.)

    But this isn’t just about marriage. He’s donated $5 million dollars in the last few years to a number of organizations they legislate and discriminate against gay people.

    The only utter nonsense in this room is blow-hards like you who sit all righteous behind their computers from who-knows-where and issue damnations down on ordinary Americans who haven’t done one thing to you or your family.

  55. Avatar of Robbyrob
    Robbyrob

    [quote=Transfigurationjc]I’m proud of Melissa and Chick Fil A for standing up for what they believe. It’s about free speech. The Gay Rights Lobby made this a controversy and it back fired on them and bit them in their collective butts!

    Chick Fil A appreciation day was an overwhelming success around the nation. Thank goodness this country hasnt allowed the radical leftist agenda to bully them into submission.[/quote]

    I love how you use words like leftist agenda and gay rights lobby. It’s ok for them to boycott anything that mentions the word gay right? You know those 40,000 One Million Moms? They wanted Ellen fired! You conservative religious blowhards that want everyone to live your way is downright insulting. Bullying???? Sorry, you Jesus lovers invented the term and misuse the good book every day. I pray for you daily…..you need it.

  56. Avatar of Katiebug9624
    Katiebug9624

    I just don’t understand why so many people care. Last time I checked God didn’t leave them in charge he did tell us to love each other, no sin is bigger than the other and not to judge yet so many Christians do this.

  57. Avatar of soapjunkie88
    soapjunkie88

    @GaryJr: If this was Facebook I would like your comment. If this was Twitter I would retweet you. But this way let me just say thank you! Great comment!!!

    And again this isn’t just about gay marriage. Chick-fli-A is associated with right-wing conservatives who want more than just ban gay marriage. Chick-fli-A gives money to an organization that wants to see gays behind bars or in death row.

    Why diminish a certain group of people? Why supporting anti-gays while teenagers commit suicide because they think they should be ashamed of themselves?
    How would any gay kid of one of those supporters feel? Is this the massage you should send to your children or – in case of Melissa Reeves – to your fans?

    AGAIN Chick-fli-A is not just against gay marriage. They are against a certain group of human beings!

  58. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    CFA supports FRC which supported a Bill in UGANDA to make it legal that their government can round up every GLBT individual and kill them just because they are GLBT. When patrons eat at CFA their money helps this cause. So lets take GOD out of this cause the GOD I Believe in would never be for killing people cause they are GLBT. There is nothing Godly in this. This is not about Marriage equality and if ur ok with it. Its about Human life and by CFA supporting FRC they are standing still and doing nothing as the UGANDA govt campagins to kill all the gays. Thas the issue here.

  59. Avatar of soapfan616
    soapfan616

    [quote=GHteenybopper]How is that the homosexuals want the freedom and rights that as humans they ARE entitled too, but the minute someone disagrees with their lifestyle that person becomes the devil?

    They gays have their right to belief in what they believe, but so does everyone else. Boycotting the show Melissa Reeves is on because her belief system is different than that of the gays is incredibly hypocritical. Homosexuals are now able to get married (at least here in all of Canada…not to sure about all the states), you can’t watch a single show without homosexuality being promoted or discussed, which helps educate the public who may have been ignorant about that particular lifestyle before, and then you have a few religious people who come out in support of a restaurant without saying anything negative about homosexuality and suddenly they’re homophobic, give me a break.

    It’s not fair for homosexuals to complain about their rights, when they complain about others expressing their rights.[/quote]
    ****

    No one said she was the devil. Several have said she was a bigot and a hypocrite and I tend to agree. If you are going to support bigots, you are a bigot. You can’t stay on the sidelines and not chose a side. Apathy only breeds more bigotry. Future generations will look back on people like her the same way we look back on the bigots who rallied against inter-racial marriage and rallied against women’s right to vote. In fact, this current generation of bigots has borrowed so much rhetoric from last generations’ bigots that it’s hard not to see the parallels.

  60. Avatar of GaryJr
    GaryJr

    @GaryJr: If this was Facebook I would like your comment. If this was Twitter I would retweet you. But this way let me just say thank you! Great comment!!!

    And again this isn’t just about gay marriage. Chick-fli-A is associated with right-wing conservatives who want more than just ban gay marriage. Chick-fli-A gives money to an organization that wants to see gays behind bars or in death row.

    Thanks! It turns my stomach every time I read someone telling gay people off because they want basic rights. It takes a special kind of dirt-bag to condemn people they don’t know & rubbing their noses in the fact that a minority would rather see gays face down in the dirt than be afforded the same rights as everyone else. It’s pathetic and pretty disgusting.

  61. Avatar of soapfan616
    soapfan616

    [quote=Ryan-Scott]Frightening…

    For those who think it’s ok for MR to endorse this shithouse, read about just what that shithouse supports.
    If you still find it ok, my sympathy card is in the mail.[/quote]

    ****

    Amen!

  62. Avatar of soapfan616
    soapfan616

    [quote=SoapArmageddon]Being gay is not a choice, a lifestyle, nor a belief. It is an identity. When you support those who actively seek to deny or deprive someone of the rights they are entitled to as human beings, you do not deserve anyone’s respect or consideration.[/quote]

    ****

    Beautifully said and so true!

    Thank you fellow soap fans for making me feel proud today! I have decided to focus on all of your wonderful comments rather than focus on the narrow mindedness and bigotry of a select few.

  63. Avatar of GaryJr
    GaryJr

    Thank you fellow soap fans for making me feel proud today! I have decided to focus on all of your wonderful comments rather than focus on the narrow mindedness and bigotry of a select few.

    Thank you! You have an amazing attitude; you just made me smile after a two day period of mega-frowning! I need to quit that or I’ll get MRF! (Missy-Reeves-forehead) <–Sorry I couldn’t resist, you can consider it payback for all the gay bashing I’ve received since I was in the 4th grade.

  64. Avatar of lchb8
    lchb8

    I wish Reeves would stop confusing “freedom of speech” with “freedom from criticism”. If the government was arresting the head of CFA and throwing him in jail for his comments, that would be a violation of free speech. However, people boycotting CFA or saying unpleasant things about the CEO in NO WAY infringes on his right to free speech.

    Oh, and I’ll also be changing the channel each time she’s on the screen. I’m thoroughly turned-off by her passive-aggressive (and inaccurate) approach to having a dialog about a serious topic.

    I also see no CFA in my future because I don’t want my money going to support a company that has that stance on gay marriage.

  65. Avatar of Ravennite613
    Ravennite613

    [quote=GHteenybopper]How is that the homosexuals want the freedom and rights that as humans they ARE entitled too, but the minute someone disagrees with their lifestyle that person becomes the devil?
    They gays have their right to belief in what they believe, but so does everyone else. Boycotting the show Melissa Reeves is on because her belief system is different than that of the gays is incredibly hypocritical. Homosexuals are now able to get married (at least here in all of Canada…not to sure about all the states), you can’t watch a single show without homosexuality being promoted or discussed, which helps educate the public who may have been ignorant about that particular lifestyle before, and then you have a few religious people who come out in support of a restaurant without saying anything negative about homosexuality and suddenly they’re homophobic, give me a break.
    It’s not fair for homosexuals to complain about their rights, when they complain about others expressing their rights.[/quote]

    I stopped reading here because I needed to say THANK YOU Teeny. THis post says it all for me.

    As the wife of a soldier and who has family members and friends still fighting. I’ve watched friends die fighting for what we have here in this country and it all comes down to one statement for me

    “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”

    This is the choice I take for living in this country if I want someone to tell me how I can live all the time with no freedoms I’ll move to China. I am an American and as such I can affect change.

    Ok stepping off soapbox

  66. Avatar of GaryJr
    GaryJr

    GHteenybopper wrote:
    How is that the homosexuals want the freedom and rights that as humans they ARE entitled too, but the minute someone disagrees with their lifestyle that person becomes the devil?
    They gays have their right to belief in what they believe, but so does everyone else. Boycotting the show Melissa Reeves is on because her belief system is different than that of the gays is incredibly hypocritical. Homosexuals are now able to get married (at least here in all of Canada…not to sure about all the states), you can’t watch a single show without homosexuality being promoted or discussed, which helps educate the public who may have been ignorant about that particular lifestyle before, and then you have a few religious people who come out in support of a restaurant without saying anything negative about homosexuality and suddenly they’re homophobic, give me a break.
    It’s not fair for homosexuals to complain about their rights, when they complain about others expressing their rights.

    I stopped reading here because I needed to say THANK YOU Teeny. THis post says it all for me.

    As the wife of a soldier and who has family members and friends still fighting. I’ve watched friends die fighting for what we have here in this country and it all comes down to one statement for me

    “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”

    This is the choice I take for living in this country if I want someone to tell me how I can live all the time with no freedoms I’ll move to China. I am an American and as such I can affect change.

    Ok stepping off soapbox

    You both CLEARLY don’t understand what’s at stake here (or you just don’t care). Marriage rights and Freedom of Speech are only the tips of the ice berg.

    I don’t have a problem with their freedom of speech; I’m glad they came out of the closet NOW I KNOW NEVER TO GO BACK. But as I said in another post, as others have posted, this bigot dropped $5 MILLION dollars on organizations that lobby to legislate and persecute gay people.

    When society tells Joe Gay kid from Kansas something is wrong with him, that he’s worthless, Joe Gay kid hangs himself, throws himself off a bridge, shoots himself etc. Joe Gay kid is dead because it bothers some people that we exist. That’s just plain sick and disturbing. How the hell do some of you sleep at night with that kind of attitude. I pray none of you have gay children because you have no idea what kind of hell they’re about to go through. It’s not a choice or a lifestyle. It’s just life.

    Where does Melissa Reeves, a known adulterer to the world, get off? Why don’t you worry about your own house before you bring down that kind of pain on gay kids who have done nothing to you and your kind. Hell Days of our Lives is full of gay people (in front and behind the camera), starting with the top Gary Tomlin, so why don’t you do us all a favor and start up your won boycott and leave the show and these message boards behind. It’s your RIGHT after all.

  67. Avatar of ChrisGa
    ChrisGa

    [quote=lchb8]I wish Reeves would stop confusing “freedom of speech” with “freedom from criticism”. If the government was arresting the head of CFA and throwing him in jail for his comments, that would be a violation of free speech. However, people boycotting CFA or saying unpleasant things about the CEO in NO WAY infringes on his right to free speech.

    Oh, and I’ll also be changing the channel each time she’s on the screen. I’m thoroughly turned-off by her passive-aggressive (and inaccurate) approach to having a dialog about a serious topic.

    I also see no CFA in my future because I don’t want my money going to support a company that has that stance on gay marriage.[/quote]

    * * * * * * * * *

    I’m right there with you. I’ve long known the Cathys’ and CFA’s stance regarding their religious beliefs–I live in Atlanta, not far from the first CFA Dwarf House as well as their corporate headquarters and Truett Cathy lives in a neighboring county–but I had always chalked it up to them just being a bunch of religious zealots. I even grabbed breakfast there two or three times a week on my way in to work. That’s no longer the case. Dan Cathy’s “guilty as charged” speech put an end to me ever setting foot in a CFA. In the end, our wallets speak volumes and while their “Appreciatian Day” may have been a rousing success I think negative long-term ramifications are still on the horizon.

  68. Avatar of SoapArmageddon
    SoapArmageddon

    Thank you, Ravennite.

    For giving us another example of what your hateful kind tries to do. Your insinuation that gays are unpatriotic and your idiotic attempt to distract from people’s basic human right to demand an equal share in their society is laughable.

    I don’t even begrudge the fact that my tax dollars help to put money in your husband’s pocket and food on your table. My prayers are with your husband and all our other troops.

  69. Avatar of GaryJr
    GaryJr

    I’m right there with you. I’ve long known the Cathys’ and CFA’s stance regarding their religious beliefs–I live in Atlanta, not far from the first CFA Dwarf House as well as their corporate headquarters and Truett Cathy lives in a neighboring county–but I had always chalked it up to them just being a bunch of religious zealots. I even grabbed breakfast there two or three times a week on my way in to work. That’s no longer the case. Dan Cathy’s “guilty as charged” speech put an end to me ever setting foot in a CFA. In the end, our wallets speak volumes and while their “Appreciatian Day” may have been a rousing success I think negative long-term ramifications are still on the horizon.

    Don’t worry their brand image has been in a free-fall for 3 weeks according to the people who keep track of that sort of stuff.

    http://today.yougov.com/news/2012/07/27/chck-fil-takes-perception-dive-fast-food-eaters/

  70. Avatar of Mark It Right
    Mark It Right

    Perhaps they will kill her off in the Daysaster. Perhaps a wood beam will land down her throat. Then let her enjoy free speech.
    All smart a** comments aside, this makes me very sad. I have been a Days fan for 35+ years. I have enjoyed her as Jennifer. Even though she has limited range in her acting. She has been a bore this time anyway. Hopefully, they will write her off. If not I will just fast forward through her scenes.

  71. Avatar of Ravennite613
    Ravennite613

    [quote=SoapArmageddon]Thank you, Ravennite.For giving us another example of what your hateful kind tries to do. Your insinuation that gays are unpatriotic and your idiotic attempt to distract from people’s basic human right to demand an equal share in their society is laughable.I don’t even begrudge the fact that my tax dollars help to put money in your husband’s pocket and food on your table. My prayers are with your husband and all our other troops.[/quote]

    Yes it’s the do as I say nation. I have a niece who is my heart and who is a lesbian and I will stand with her when she marries one day in NY..the same way I plan on standing next to my cousin when he is allowed to marry in New Jersey. Something that we have been fighting for..please don’t assume you know you know anything about me because I agree with someone.

    Also please explain where in my statement I EVER said gays were unpatriotic because if that’s what you got out of my statement then I really think you have the problem.

    I will never enter a Chik-Fila but I will never begrudge anyone who wants to.

  72. Avatar of TomZulawski
    TomZulawski

    This isnt about left or right you dumb ass, it’s about perpetuating hate. As long as gay and lesbian people are singled out and not treated equally as every other American citizen the bullying
    Will continue, gay suicides will continue, hate crimes will continue. When gay and lesbian people are given all the same rights as every other citizen that is when the hate will begin to heal.

  73. Avatar of david46208
    david46208

    @Robbyrob: If you don’t like the message being spread then you spend your money to send an opposing message. That is your freedom as an American. Freedom of speech does not work as long as you agree with what is being expressed.

    Yes that means even speech one considers hateful is protected by the first amendment.

    Yet, when people start threatening physical harm because you don’t agree with the speech. That is a step too far.

    You can feel free express your disagreement with the fast food restaurant and their financial practices. Express yourself.

    But you have to realize that everyone is not going to agree with mines, yours and others point of view. That’s life.

    You can’t simply annihilate everyone you disagree with. And this is a problem with both sides in any disagreement.

    On a final note if you looked at what every corporation supported, donated their money too, you’d be living in a commune.

  74. Avatar of maca42
    maca42

    I dont care for her at all and never have and could care less what she thinks but she has a right to her opinion and free speech and that is what this chick fil a thing is all about. Liberals only care about “free” speech when it is a liberal cause and are the most intolerant people even though they pretend to preach tolerance.

  75. Avatar of maca42
    maca42

    I dont care for her at all and never have and could care less what she thinks but she has a right to her opinion and free speech and that is what this chick fil a thing is all about. Liberals only care about “free” speech when it is a liberal cause and are the most intolerant people even though they pretend to preach tolerance.

  76. Avatar of GHteenybopper
    GHteenybopper

    GaryJr

    A kid isn’t going to hang him/herself for being made fun of for being gay or different from everyone else, for homosexuals who do choose to kill themselves, the mental issue(s) are deeper and go way beyond being teased by kids at school. There are million of kids who are bullied and do not choose that route.

    This is an argument that will never be won, no longer are christians or straight people allowed to speak about their views without being attacked. Homosexuals are hypocrites, they don’t want to be attacked for their beliefs but they will attack as soon as those believes are are not agreed upon by everyone else. Just as there are whites who discriminate against blacks and vice versa there will always be people who don’t agree with the homosexual lifestyle. One cannot force people to agree with something they were taught not to agree with.

    You yourself Gary just personally attacked Melissa’s forehead in a few posts above and justified it as payback or whatever for your being bullied in school, was Melissa one of your classmates who picked on you for your homosexuality?

    Nowhere in here tweet or other tweets did Melissa say that homosexuals shouldn’t be allowed to be together or get married.

    What’s the difference between Christians expressing their views against homosexuality, and homosexuals calling them names such as zealots, fanatics, bigots etc.? An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Even if the views are ignorant, as long as the words are not encouraging violence towards gays they should still be allowed to express their opinion/beliefs, just as homosexuals are allowed to fight for what they believe in.

    I was raised Christian, but I don’t really identify as one today, the religion is just too hypocritical for me… but they’re not just pulling this stuff about homosexuality being unaccepted out of their asses, there are scriptures that refer to homosexual acts as an abomination. And as loyal Christians they choose to believe in that and there are some who do so promoting hatred towards the homosexual community, so now you’re left attacking someone because of their belief system. It’s a back and forth with attacks, fighting hate with hate, what exactly is that accomplishing?

    Ravennite613– you’re welcome, it’s not fair for others to cry foul, when they’re fouling left and right themselves. You can’t be fighters for equality, and not want others to have the equal right to speak when their views do not express the same sentiments yours does.

  77. Avatar of theroomstops
    theroomstops

    1) It is absolutely a right for anyone who is not gay. It is. If you can go to your Justice of the Peace’s office, get a cirtificate and get married without problems or being told to go away, then that is a right you have. Except if you’re gay in most United States and a lot of countries around the world.

    2) Women are certainly discriminated. Just ask the one who was fired and told to become a stay-at-home mom. It IS discrimination if you don’t envy someone who is your equal the same rights you have. And they’ve been sued for employment discrimination how many times? Dozens. If 1/10 people (at least) are openly gay in this world… that makes how many of those people?

    3) Marriage is a commitment between two people to love, stay faitful and care for each other. States have that right, but because of bigots who scream at the moon, they don’t change it. FYI, chances are bigger that a gay couple will stay together than a heterosexual couple. 50% divorce rate is a-ok, just don’t let two girls get married.

    4) They just can’t get married like everybody else. And they can’t have a family most places. They aren’t allowed to adopt. Most places you have to be married to be a fosterfamily.

    5) You cannot fucking compare being a valedictorian to being gay. You are born gay, you BECOME a valedictorian due to hard work, discipline and partly your intelligence. Quarterbacks aren’t born quarterbacks. They work like freaking hell to become fit enough to maybe, some day, get in the start-up line. Gays are born gay. They do not become it. They come out of the closet, but they have always been gay.

    I am not gay, and I am not close-minded. I was just raised to believe that my brothers and sisters in this world were worth as much as I am.

  78. Avatar of theroomstops
    theroomstops

    She has to right to say it, I have the right to call her out for being a supporter of an organization that supports the murders of gay people. Free speech is a good and a dangerous thing, depending on how it is used.

  79. Avatar of theroomstops
    theroomstops

    @thebookerman: You’re joking, right? The STATE is stopping them from having everything a married couple have. They don’t get to make the decision of life support, they don’t have the rights to adopt, they don’t have medical rights, and that’s just the first things off the top of my head.

    The threat against marriage is not gay marriage, it’s divorce. But ya’ll love getting that. (Huh, Newt?)

  80. Avatar of SoapArmageddon
    SoapArmageddon

    “I was raised Christian, but I don’t really identify as one today, the religion is just too hypocritical for me… but they’re not just pulling this stuff about homosexuality being unaccepted out of their asses, there are scriptures that refer to homosexual acts as an abomination.”

    Oh Sweet, Heavenly Jesus!

    So now I’m supposed to respect the views of people who base their every opinion on a book that sanctions the stoning of women for adultery. (Melissa, take note.)

    Gore Vidal was right! The most un-Christlike people in the world are those who call themselves Christians.

  81. Avatar of GHteenybopper
    GHteenybopper

    SoapArmageddon–you don’t respect their views and some go on with their lives, they don’t respect your views and something is wrong with them? It would seem that according to your logic, unless I’m misunderstanding what you said regarding respect, that Christians then have the right to disrespect homosexuals because they go against what is written in their bible.

  82. Avatar of stoney07
    stoney07

    Well regardless to sexuality, I actually support Chic-Fil-A, and the reason IS, because when you are personally ASKED your opinion on a subject, you shouldn’t have to LIE. If it’s his beliefs, it’s his beliefs. Gay people work at CFA, up until now we all ate their (straight and gay), and there wasn’t a problem. But because ONE man doesn’t necessarily agree with someone’s lifestyle, then all of a sudden we all have to boycott the place? I find it ridiculous. Everyone is not going to like the homosexual lifestyle, just like everyone isn’t going to like the heterosexual lifestyle. On both sides of the coin, someone says it’s “Nasty”….it’s the world we live in…we are all different.

    If I owned a restaurant and I did an interview where someone asked me what I watched on daytime TV, and I said Y&R and B&B because I don’t like the others, would I get condemned and boycotted because I don’t like General Hospital and DAYS? It’s MY personal opinion…and that’s how I feel about this. What that man does with his business and what he contributes to and DOESN’T contribute to shouldn’t really matter. If you like the food you like the food. If you don’t, then you don’t. I could understand people being upset and not eating there, but to stage this big elaborate (yet ridiculous) boycott is doing a bit much. What its saying is, we aren’t allowed to voice our opinions of things…whether YOU agree or not. And this is coming from me, a man who has dated BOTH sexes. I don’t expect the world to love me because I’m gay. I expect them to treat me the way everyone else is treated….some will love me, some will hate me. Some will discriminate. It’s the way the world goes around. Do I think it’s right? NO!!!

    But where CFA is concerned, I don’t see discrimination. I honestly don’t. And I really wasn’t interested enough to read everything that has gone down, so I may be making an ass out of myself…but if I’ve missed some details or something, then by all means let me know. All I’m saying is, the guy was entitled to his opinion and the backlash is really unnecessary. OUR COUNTRY was the one that wasn’t necessarily approving gay marriage. It had nothing to do with CFA. But there wasn’t a big USA-boycott…and I don’t think too many people moved out of the country because of it. SMH

  83. Avatar of GHteenybopper
    GHteenybopper

    Um, Ryan-Scott, it’s not of my interest to read tabloid magazines, I come from a background in psychology and it is my opinion that there are deeper issues than being teased because of ones sexuality that leads one to decide to end their own life. One’s sexuality may be an aggravating factor but it is not the main catalyst for teen suicides.
    Pick up a psych textbook sometime, educate yourself about the neurological and psychological aspects surrounding teen suicide.

    I can’t believe I was just told to read a tabloid magazine..smh.

    SoapArmageddon– Wasn’t Gore Vidal someone who freely expressed Anti-Semitic views, or do I have the wrong guy?

  84. Avatar of TomZulawski
    TomZulawski

    Yes Stoney you did just make an ass out of yourself. What if a proper southern gentleman was asked his opinion on owning slaves, and he said “oh there is nothing wrong with slavery, it’s in the bible”. Does that make it ok? Singling out a group of people and subjecting them to different treatment because they are not just like you is not right. Just because you believe something to be right doesn’t make it so.

  85. Avatar of Tishy123
    Tishy123

    Melissa Reeves is free to do what she wants, that is what makes America great. Just like I am free to say that I think she is wrong. And she was wrong when she cheated on her husband. I hope she gains five pounds from all the Chik fils.

    On a positive note, there is only one Chik A Fil in my state, New Hampshire. According to the Manchester, NH television state (really the only one in NH) this franchise had just as many people as every other franchise in the nation. The difference was that the owner of the franchise was a big supporter of LBGT rights and before the President of the company opened his mouth, he had already pledged money in support of LBGT rights. So yesterday, more money was raised to support LBGT rights. Everyone should be equal.

  86. Avatar of EricasEvilTwin
    EricasEvilTwin

    Spins Vixenella thank you for summing up a lot of what I have been thinking.

    I believe the gay community has a right to marry and certainly to respectfully fight for that right including boycotting businesses that they believe block their progress but at the same time they have to try and communicate in a way that understands and accepts that many of these individuals arent coming so much from some point of blind bigotry but from a position of faith. Just because you disagree with their interpretation of their faith – and I do – doesnt mean that they dont have a right to their belief nor the right to express their belief. For that reason, I agree with a great deal of what Teeny had to say (although I do disagree about the suicide issue.)

    Soap Armegeddon i have to say i was offended by your post to raven about “not begrudging the fact that my tax dollars help to put money in your husband’s pocket and food on your table”. WOW. Really? Because of people like your husband people in the US have the freedom to be gay and to boycott businesses and to organize politically. You dont “begrudge”? You should be GRATEFUL and happy that your tax dollars compensated him in some small way because what he EARNED doesnt remotely compare to what he sacrificed FOR YOU and FOR ME and FOR EVERY AMERICAN. Its one thing to disagree with Raven’s position, its another entirely to take it to a personal level IMHO.

  87. Avatar of SoapArmageddon
    SoapArmageddon

    GHteenybopper, Weren’t there psychologists who thought homosexuality was a mental illness up until a few years ago when they de-classified it, or do I have the wrong profession?

    Re Gore Vidal: He spent fifty years living with Howard Austen, a man (I know. The Horror!!!) who was Jewish.

  88. Avatar of Ryan-Scott
    Ryan-Scott

    You really need to research bullying GHTeenybopper and learn the effects it can have.
    Just Google it like I just did and the names will be there of young people who killed themselves because of it.
    It has nothing to do with mental illness. It has to do with wanting an escape from being harrassed and made to feel like shit everyday because you’re gay and made to believe it is something to feel shame over.
    Hide behind your Phd or whatever you have.
    You are truly out of touch.

  89. Avatar of GHteenybopper
    GHteenybopper

    No, SoapArmageddon you have the right profession, homosexuality was removed from the DSM in the 70s and of course there are probably psychologists today who believe it should still be in there. Who’s to say they’re wrong or right?

    Ryan-Scott, not quite at the PhD level yet, but part of having suicidal tendencies and actually committing the act itself does have something to do with chemical imbalances as well which are caused by some underlying mental illness, most of those gay kids who do the unthinkable have been shown to have a history of either depression or another form of mental illness, some are even put on anti-depressants which increase suicidal tendencies/thoughts in younger people. Maybe they didn’t explain that in the issues of People magazine you read. I was put on anti-depressants when I was 16 and my mom was told to keep an eye on me because the main side effect was an increase in suicidal ideation. Now I’m not saying them being gay doesn’t factor into them wanting to kill themselves, but it’s certainly not the main catalyst for their suicidal ideation as you seem to be implying.

  90. Avatar of SoapArmageddon
    SoapArmageddon

    EET, I have always found your posts well-written and apologize if my statement was offensive to you. Although the word “begrudge” does not exclude being grateful, I am sorry that I included that statement. It lowered me to the level of those I despise and who despise me for being born the way I was.

  91. Avatar of stoney07
    stoney07

    [quote=TomZulawski]Yes Stoney you did just make an ass out of yourself. What if a proper southern gentleman was asked his opinion on owning slaves, and he said “oh there is nothing wrong with slavery, it’s in the bible”. Does that make it ok? Singling out a group of people and subjecting them to different treatment because they are not just like you is not right. Just because you believe something to be right doesn’t make it so.[/quote]

    I meant making an ass out of myself because I had wrong information…not based off what I said. My point still remains my point…

    If you ASK someone something and they don’t kiss your ass and give you the answer you’d LIKE for them to give you, it doesn’t make them wrong. If I ASKED a proper southern gentlemen his opinion on slavery and he said he thought it was okay because it was in the bible…I wouldn’t be upset at all because I’d know he was ignorant and has no knowledge of the bible, but I also wouldn’t be upset BECAUSE I ASKED HIS OPINION!!! You can’t look for something and then get offended when you find it. And your last statement is absolutely correct on BOTH sides. Just because YOU believe something to be right (or okay) doesn’t make it so. And it doesn’t mean everyone has to agree with you. Everyone has their own way of thinking and living. I chose to respond with class, while you chose to tell me I made an ass of myself based on YOUR misunderstanding of my post. See how that works??? Different strokes for different folks…

  92. Avatar of EricasEvilTwin
    EricasEvilTwin

    Soap thank you for you last post. It is much appreciated. When it comes to the men and women that serve I have a real sensitive spot for it – I feel an eternal gratitude for what they do because I look at how women live in most of the world and I know that I would live a very different life in most of the world were it not in large part for what they do. Knowing the discrimination that lesbians and gays face around the world, i can only image thats very true for many posting here as well – that they would live very different lives were it not for the freedoms we have here. yes, we have a long way to go but I believe we will get there because we have a system that allows for freedom of expression and in the end that always gets us to the right place even if the journey is sometimes plagued with awful and difficult moments in our history.

  93. Avatar of Yoryla
    Yoryla

    Omg.

    My admiration of the beautiful & talented Jennifer Rose Horton Devereaux just shattered into millions of pieces.

    I can’t believe someone would go public and state something this stupid.

  94. Avatar of Ryan-Scott
    Ryan-Scott

    What are you not getting GHTeenbopper?
    It’s the not being gay that makes these kids kill themselves.
    It’s the effects of being bullied that do BECAUSE THEY ARE GAY and being made to feel worthless. I wish I could ask these kids to confirm this for you BUT THEY’RE ALL DEAD.

    Obviously, you didn’t Google it.

    I’m done debating this you.
    As I said, you have no clue.

  95. Avatar of TomZulawski
    TomZulawski

    Stoney, the thing is I didn’t ask Melissa for her opinion, I wouldn’t have asked any of these ignorant people for their opinion, but because they are of a majority they feel that they have the right to discriminate. Again, just because someone believes
    Something to be right doesn’t make it so, history has proved that over and over again. Looking back, many people should have just kept their mouths shut because history has proven them to be not worthy of their opinion.

  96. Avatar of pumpkin
    pumpkin

    Well, there is no chic-fil-a around here and I never ate at one anywhere. So that part is not an issue for me. I can’t really complain about the writers of daytime tackling a controversial issue because this is an actor expressing her opinion. The show has nothing to do about it.

    I will say, because of the issue, that those stating free speech probably are of the same opinion.

    I will say that not everyone that fights for gay rights is gay. A lot of people that fight for gay rights are friends, sisters, brothers, uncles, aunts, mothers, father, and on and on. In fact, people fighting for others they love are more active. Defensive is an understatement. No one wants to see people they love undervalued.

    I just never understand how people don’t understand, when we are at the end of the line, no one is better then anyone else. We are all on equal footing.

  97. Avatar of GHteenybopper
    GHteenybopper

    Bullying does not lead to suicide, if that were the case, all bullied children would kill themselves, these kids unfortunately suffer from a psychological vulnerability where they’re not capable of handling all in the interpersonal conflict they face either at school or at home. When it comes to suicide there is a bigger and more complex issue. It’ easy to blame it all on bullying because that’s easy. There are millions of straight children who aren’t gay who are severely bullied and are still alive and don’t plan on ending their lives. Maybe you should put down the people magazine and google articles that will give you an in depth analysis on many teen suicides, where scholars will inform you that bullying alone does not cause suicide, gay or straight. Just because I don’t agree with you or read people magazine doesn’t mean I don’t have a clue. I’m glad you’re done debating, this was getting very tiring, you sir, are a master debater.

  98. Avatar of Happy Day
    Happy Day

    Something that really bothered me about yesterday, with all those people showing support – I kept wondering, if the statement had been made that because of his religious beliefs, he didn’t support racially mixed marriages (and behind the scenes was sending millions of dollars to organizations that fought against racially mixed marriages), would there have been so many smiling faces on facebook, on site, showing their support for “freedom of speech” and being proud of what they were doing?

    I think not. But because it was gay and lesbian relationships in question, then apparently a whole lot of people felt it was okay to defend this oppressive viewpoint as freedom of speech. It seems like freedom of speech and religious beliefs – at least when it comes to gay relationships – gives people carte blanche to basically give a large segment of the population (and inevitably their own friends, brothers, sisters, cousins, etc.) the finger and do it with pride.

  99. Avatar of Kendall Troy
    Kendall Troy

    GHteenybopper – I really have to disagree with you. I think that being a gay teen can be a psychologically trying time on it’s own without adding bullying into the mix. Not only are you coming to term with your sexuality with your peers, but you’re finding out it’s different than theirs. You’re church is telling you you’re an abomination, possibly you’re family is telling you you’re “wrong or in a phase” if they are active enough in your family unit to notice at all, and society really is not molded for who you are. Because whether you like it or not, it’s a heterosexual world. Marriage, couple references, your friends, mostly reflect heterosexuality. Then you place bullying into the mix in the war fare that is school (God forbid if you’re an effeminate boy or butch girl) and I think that helps to drive a confused and impressionable kid over the edge.

    I’m sure chemical imbalances, parenting, medicines, etc, all can play a role, but I think society and natural selection play a part with gay teen suicide.

  100. Avatar of Kendall Troy
    Kendall Troy

    Happy Day – Race and sexuality are two different things as far as society goes. Homosexuality is as true and unchangeable as pigment, but will always be different to them.

    I am curious what will happen to women when they are no longer allowed to work and their opinion is not as valued as a Man’s. After all, the Bible says their place is in the home. It makes a very clear picture of women being secondary to men. If time cannot change for the interpretation of homosexuality, it shouldn’t for anything….that would be hypocritical and automatically discredited in my mind. (Don’t get me started on heterosexuals that eat shrimp!)

    My heart is sad she said what she said, but I support her right to say it. Get it out there, it builds a dialog. I much rather know who my friends are than my enemies. It certainly has opened my eyes to a few people here…

  101. Avatar of MysteryStory
    MysteryStory

    Can I just say that I support free speech (although I may not agree with it). I support Melissa Reeves’s belief that she supports free speech. I like Chick Fil A. I think their sandwiches, lemonade, and milkshakes are awesome. Dan Cathy has his opinion. He’s against gay marriage. He doesn’t believe it based on his faith. He should not be bashed or called “ignorant”, “backwards” or other such names because of his beliefs. It is easier to persuade someone to change their beliefs with soft words than to yell and scream your beliefs at them.

    Based on Melissa Reeves’ tweet, this one tweet, I don’t get the impression she’s saying she supports discrimination against gays. I think people who feel that way are putting their own filter and beliefs on her words. Has anyone actually asked her what she meant? She may just support Dan Cathy’s right to have his opinion. She may also just support Chick Fil A and the organization’s right to their own opinion. We are wasting too much time on Daytime Confidential on this issue. We have 4 soaps we need to continue to support so that they are not canceled and we’re left with nothing.

    For those people who have said and are thinking they will turn off Days of Our Lives, you do no good to anyone. There are more actors and staff on that show other than Melissa Reeves and you do them a disservice that may cost them their jobs. On the same note, everyone needs a job in this economy and I doubt boycotting Chick Fil A and possibly costing the good people who work there jobs is good for their communities. There is a Chick fil A opening up down the street from me, and while I may not eat there a lot, I will eat there because those jobs are good for my community.

    I think another poster said that gay couples do not have the same rights and married heterosexual couples and they used an example of making medical decisions for their partner. I have to partially disagree with that statement. Any person in this country has the ability to name a medical decision maker should they be unable to make decisions on their own. In most states it’s called a Medical Power of Attorney. Unmarried couples can have a POA. Family members can be Medical POA’s for other families, clergy for parishoner’s, anyone. I work with people in the later stages of their lives and I am often surprised when I review medical paperwork that those types of documents are not updated especially when there has been a breaking of a relationship. In cases like a divorce or family members that no longer speak to each other and now you have a child that hasn’t spoken with their parent for 20 or 30 years who is a/the decision maker for someone they hardly know, or an ex-wife or ex-husband. I know this off topic, but I think it’s important that people know they don’t have to be married to have a person who can make decision for them.

    Sorry for such the long post.

  102. Avatar of ckg927
    ckg927

    [quote=Ryan-Scott]Um, yes GHteenybopper gay teens who have been bullied because they are gay have killed themselves because of it.
    Pick up an issue of People sometime.[/quote]

    Even better, take a look at this video from Rick Mercer(he’s a Canadian comedian who has a show on CBC). It’s one of his rants on teen suicide. Usually, he goes for laughs. Not here.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh1jNAZHKIw

  103. Avatar of MysteryStory
    MysteryStory

    In regards to the Judeo-Christian Bible, although women’s positions were normally relegated to the home, there are many, many instances of powerful, women leaders in the Bible. There was the Judge, Deborah, there was Jael killed Sisera who was attacking the Israelites. There was Ruth, the great-grandmother of King David, who through her faith and devotion begat the greatest Biblical king. There was Lydia who was a merchant of Thyatira, Priscilla who had a team ministry with her husband Aquilla, and Anna who was a prophet. I’m not sure these women’s strengths and positions are always told about but their place in history wasn’t just in their homes.

  104. Avatar of SoapArmageddon
    SoapArmageddon

    Mystery Story, you do know that there are still places in this country where people can be fired for being gay, right?

    Chick-Fil-A’s Dan Cathy doesn’t only SAY he’s against gay marriage. He DONATES money to groups that seek to block gay marriage and legally establish or continue the persecution of gays. I don’t think Dan Cathy is ignorant; I think he’s evil.

    Now, Melissa Reeves is quite possibly ignorant if she thinks this is only about Free Speech.

    And the fact that you are free to say something doesn’t mean you should, especially when what you’re saying promotes a culture of hate against a group of people.

  105. Avatar of stoney07
    stoney07

    I still don’t get it…I agree that just because you believe something doesn’t make it right.

    Mr. Cathy doesn’t believe in gay marriage…doesn’t make it right.
    YOU believe in gay marriage….doesn’t make it right.

    All I’ve been trying to say is, it’s HIS personal beliefs. If we choose not to eat at his establishment, it should be a personal choice…I think there’s a lot of overreacting here. Because when I see people compare it to SLAVERY…I just don’t get the logic. The man doesn’t agree with gay marriage based on his beliefs. He has never told ANY of his chic-fil-a’s to turn away gay customers/employees/ANYTHING. Slavery was something that was forced. This is just one man’s opinion.

    I think it’s unfair that like I said, the man was ASKED his opinion and all this came out of it. ANd for the person that said you didn’t ask his opinion, he didn’t TELL YOU his opinion. He stated it and it spread…I just want everyone to think about it logically. As I said, I’m not bashing anyone or anything. I just think if there’s going to be a FIGHT or boycott, it SHOULD be for gay marriage…NOT for some man running restaurants that stated his opinion. Some battles just aren’t worth fighting… Because whether his restaurants lose money or NOT….at the end of the day he’s still going to have his opinion and nothing’s going to change. So WHY???

  106. Avatar of alstonboy4315
    alstonboy4315

    An opinion and promoting hatred and intolerance are two different things. Back in the “old days,” people believed that Jews should be slaughtered. Does that make it right? They also believed that African Americans were substandard human beings who belonged in the back of the bus! Does that make this “opinion” right?

    Ms Reeves is SURELY not without fault. After all, didn’t she SCREW her co-star back in the 90s and get involved in a dirty sex scandal? And I am sure that she has broken at least ONE of the ten commandments within the past 24 hours. But does that mean that because she thumps her little Bible, flashes that sanctimonious smile and pretends to be perfect that she’s going to heaven? I will let YOU all answer that!

    Personally, I used to like her as an actress, but never found her to be all that outstanding. She lacks a lot of depth and edge. Blander than the day is long. The show was just FINE without her and would be fine if she left and never came back……

    If they ever want to recast, I can name at least 10 actresses who could easily fit in this role. This woman is NO deal-breaker!

  107. Avatar of MysteryStory
    MysteryStory

    There are places in the country you can be fired for being Hispanic, black, fat, fired for anything. You are just told you “don’t fit the image of the company”. “Evil” is a really harsh word to use for someone whose beliefs you do not agree with. I’m sorry for you that you feel such vitriol and hatred towards someone whose done nothing to you personally and you don’t even know.

    I don’t agree with the beliefs of the Ku Klux Klan, but I don’t think all of the people are evil. Misguided, yes. Ignorant, yes. A group of people who have a myopic view of the world. Absolutely. But I don’t feel I need to expend the energy many of the people on this board have on hating them and showing them how much I disagree with them. I agree that just because you can say something means that you should. It also means that just because a person can say mean spirited things, like you did earlier about the woman whose husband is in the military, you should. You apologized after you were called on it and I respect that. Everyone just needs to take a breather and go back to what they were doing, watching and talking about the soaps.

  108. Avatar of
    jezza

    [quote=thebookerman]Again, no one is stopping gay people from having everything a married couple can EXCEPT the actual title. Many people are denied titles in real life, job promotions, money, relationships etc. but they are NOT denied anything that a married couple is. (Do not mention anything about tax breaks to me either. I’ll gladly provide some strategies to a gay couple as to how they can get the same breaks. Feel free to PM me about that.)[/quote]

    Ah, yes, separate but (almost) equal! Now where have I heard THAT before?

    Seriously, this poster must either be joking or completely nuts.

  109. Avatar of md1347
    md1347

    I don’t understand this first amendment issue. That’s not why thy are being boycotted. Chick is being boycotted because they give money to anti-gay groups.

    1) Chick-Fil-A Vice President Launched Marriage And Family Legacy Fund.
    2) FCA (Fellowship of Christian Athletes)- Ministry Leader Application Condemns “Impure Lifestyle” of Gays.
    3) Exodus International – that promotes “Ex-Gay” Therapy.
    4) Family Research Council- has been designated As An Anti-Gay Hate Group By the SPLC.
    5) Georgia Family Council – Argued For Prop 8
    6) National Christian Foundation – Donates To Anti-Gay Groups

  110. Avatar of pjc722
    pjc722

    Whereas, I agree with Melissa Reeves on making her First Amendment rights known and can applaud her for doing so, I have to say that this is not about the freedom of expression of an individual speaking for himself. Cathy was voicing his opinion of his company’s stance and not an individual one.

    Melissa Reeves is a hypocrite. She “coveted thy neighbors spouse” and allowed another to “covet her” while she was married and had children. Melissa can speak her mind and voice her first amendment opinion, but so can I.

    You live in a glass house, Melissa. You sleep around and you cheat. You lied to your husband, lied to fans, and basically, somewhere in the bible you are consider a WHORE. Wear the label proudly, as I will wear my label even more proudly as a GAY FREE MAN.

  111. Avatar of thebookerman
    thebookerman

    Good to see that Chick-fil-A did very well today.

    A victory for free speech and the right to have an opinion, not a loss for people hoping for the privilege of marriage to be granted to gay people.

  112. Avatar of stoney07
    stoney07

    [quote=TomZulawski]You are right Stoney, you don’t get it. Unless you are the target of hate, stereotyping, and unequal rights, you will never get it.[/quote]

    Umm…I’m a gay black male.

    NEXT??????????????

  113. Avatar of TomZulawski
    TomZulawski

    In the end the gay and lesbian community will prevail and all the chick fil A supporters will be viewed poorly by history. Ignorance and stupidity will be revealed. You know who you are.

  114. Avatar of stoney07
    stoney07

    I should be ashamed of myself for thinking a lot of what’s going on is just an overreaction?

    A man stated his opinion. WHOSE business is that? Who is he harming??? Is this about the fact that he gives money to anti-gay groups, or the fact that he actually came out and confirmed those rumors that were already out about him? Either way, I’m not on his side, but I also get tired of everything being a “gay issue”. ONE man has his views on something based upon his religion, and instead of people personally deciding not to support him, there’s this huge outcry…and I think it’s ridiculous.

    So because I don’t agree with YOU, I should be ashamed of myself? You should be ashamed of yourself for forcing YOUR beliefs on ME. There’s irony in this somewhere…

  115. Avatar of thebookerman
    thebookerman

    [quote=TomZulawski]If you are a gay black male then you should be ashamed
    Of yourself.[/quote]

    Posts like this are exactly why “the gay community” continues to be one of the most obnoxious movements in the US. You do not get to tell people how to feel or act. Isn’t that what you’re criticizing the Chick-fil-A CEO for?

    If you make a gay joke it’s letters to the network, it’s a bitchy complaint from LGBT, it’s called “offensive.” If anyone is against gay marriage they receive death threats and people call for their jobs. Really, you want someone to be homeless because they disagree with you. What in the hell does that accomplish?

    Bottom line: Everyone has the right to be who they are, love who they want to love, and live how they want to live. You do not get the right to tell people what they can and cannot do. The Chick-fil-A CEO has no power to prevent anyone from doing anything, he is just stating his opinion.

    If you disagree with his opinion, great, more power to you, and feel free to not go to the restaurant. You’re only denying yourself some great food. And any extended boycott/ban of Chick-fil-A in a city only hurts innocent people looking for jobs, it does not affect the CEO in any way.

    So, congratulations gay community. Your push to keep Chick-fil-A out of Boston probably cost the city 100 jobs, violated a number of rights of the company and made more people visit the locations already running. Kudos on a job well done!

  116. Avatar of stoney07
    stoney07

    Let’s see…..I gave my opinion, you couldn’t take.

    You argued with me over something that really makes no difference because at the end of the day, this man is still going to be sitting back UNBOTHERED by all of this. And then you found out I was gay, and instead of you just accepting that I had a differing opinion, you resorted to elementary tactics such as saying “I made an ass of myself” when in reality, you were the only one in this conversation that was misinformed. I’m pretty sure had you known I was gay in the beginning, you wouldn’t have said anything.

    Have a nice day…comment all you’d like, but I’ve given you enough shine.

  117. Avatar of TomZulawski
    TomZulawski

    Bookerman I’ve read your posts on here throughout the day, I haven’t engaged you because by what you post I have no respect for you. If you want to engage me, bring it on.
    You obviously don’t have the intelligence required to fully grasp this subject.

  118. Avatar of TomZulawski
    TomZulawski

    Stoney when I see mistreatment I speak out, not just for gay issues, but
    For all. No one deserves to be treated less than any other human being, my point is that as a gay black man you should want to speak out, remaining silent and allowing others the platform to perpetuate hate make you just as guilty. This isn’t a matter of opinion, it’s a matter of equal rights for a minority.

  119. Avatar of theroomstops
    theroomstops

    [quote=GHteenybopper]Ryan-Scott, not quite at the PhD level yet, but part of having suicidal tendencies and actually committing the act itself does have something to do with chemical imbalances as well which are caused by some underlying mental illness, most of those gay kids who do the unthinkable have been shown to have a history of either depression or another form of mental illness, some are even put on anti-depressants which increase suicidal tendencies/thoughts in younger people. Maybe they didn’t explain that in the issues of People magazine you read. I was put on anti-depressants when I was 16 and my mom was told to keep an eye on me because the main side effect was an increase in suicidal ideation. Now I’m not saying them being gay doesn’t factor into them wanting to kill themselves, but it’s certainly not the main catalyst for their suicidal ideation as you seem to be implying.[/quote]

    I’ve suffered depression on and off since the age of 15, and mine is caused by my history, not by a chemical imbalance. My life situation changed drastically by an accident, the affects of which I’m still living, which causes me to be prone to depression in times when my pain is barely livable.

    So I can only imagine what being born gay, realizing your own truth at an already confusing age and then having to live in a world that tells you that you are horrible, disgusting, unworthy, wrong, twisted and that you deserve to die because of who you are… would do to you. These beautiful young people are only 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 years old. They’re not killing themselves because they are gay, they’re killing themselves because they’re being bullied, beaten, tortured by people around them. Do I believe in coincidences? Yes. Do I believe that every child who takes his or her own life because their community and peers have tortured them because of their sexuality also just so happens to have a chemical imbalance that makes them prone to suicidal thoughts? No.

    Not all depression is caused by chemical imbalances. History and circumstance is often the cause.

  120. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    One more time not upset over the anti gay marriage issue its the fact that CFA doantes money to many anti gay groups. One of which is the fRC. The FRC Supports UGANDA’s bill that they should be allowed to round up all of the GLBT people and KILL THEM.

    How can anyone on here support a company that supports killing people for who they are.

  121. Avatar of theroomstops
    theroomstops

    [quote=Ryan-Scott]Like a neutered dog, you just don’t get it.
    Oh well.[/quote]

    I like you.

    Teenybopper, I was bullied throughout my entire time in school, I came *thisclose* several times. I knew, unfortunately, of several who were bullied who did take their own life.

    You do not get to put the monopolizing opinion on what bullying is if you haven’t lived it every day for 10 years. Bullying is not some kid saying “I don’t like you.” It breaks your soul a little bit every day. It doesn’t matter if all of a sudden he or she takes a day off, just doesn’t find you interesting, you’re still under their power. You’re still scared, you know it can change in a second, and they’ll be back in your face, punching and screaming. And, in my case and many others’, you know you have no one on your side. It changes the way you look at everything. I still can’t go near my school, because I get physically ill. And I was bullied because I was fat. I could change being fat, one cannot change being gay.

  122. Avatar of caitlinp
    caitlinp

    Richard, the Supreme Court disagrees with you, and has ruled that Marriage is a right. The case has been fought in front of the court often, but it has involved heterosexuals. For example, there was a case where a state government tried to make it illegal for for a man to get married again, because he’d already been married a few times, and in each case after the divorces he would leave his ex-wife and children without supporting them financially. The Supreme Court ruled that the state can’t stop an adult from getting married, and would have to find another way to punish someone for not paying child or spousal support.

    2. I would say that donating money to hate groups, groups that are not only working to stop marriage equality, but also do things aimed at turning gay people straight (as if that’s possible) is discrimination.

    3. The people in a marriage are the ones who define it. And if the Bible is accurate, a quick reading of it will show that marriage has not always been the way that we view it. Or, we can look at history, and see that marriage used to be a business contract, and had very little to do with love. But, more importantly, there are a lot of things that used to be done in the name of tradition. Thankfully, definitions and traditions have changed. We know that some of the things that we used to do in the past, even in the name of religion, were wrong.

    4. Your fourth point couldn’t be more wrong. Marriage as it stands now is a legal institution, and as such there are a lot of legal rights that married couples have, and take for granted, that gay people do not have. Because of DOMA there are even rights that are being denied to those gay couples who are legally married. That is not equal. Do a little research on the topic.

  123. Avatar of acela
    acela

    The people who are calling for Melissas’ termination are the problem. they are worse than the ones that started this supposed controversy. Remember this is still America, freedom of SPEECH & IDEAS, just don’t give them your business, I’m sure they’ll survive.

  124. Avatar of thebookerman
    thebookerman

    [quote=appleridge]One more time not upset over the anti gay marriage issue its the fact that CFA doantes money to many anti gay groups. One of which is the fRC. The FRC Supports UGANDA’s bill that they should be allowed to round up all of the GLBT people and KILL THEM.

    How can anyone on here support a company that supports killing people for who they are.[/quote]

    But do they give money to the FRC BECAUSE of that reason? No.

    @Tom, feel free.

  125. Avatar of TomZulawski
    TomZulawski

    [quote=caitlinp]Richard, the Supreme Court disagrees with you, and has ruled that Marriage is a right. The case has been fought in front of the court often, but it has involved heterosexuals. For example, there was a case where a state government tried to make it illegal for for a man to get married again, because he’d already been married a few times, and in each case after the divorces he would leave his ex-wife and children without supporting them financially. The Supreme Court ruled that the state can’t stop an adult from getting married, and would have to find another way to punish someone for not paying child or spousal support.

    2. I would say that donating money to hate groups, groups that are not only working to stop marriage equality, but also do things aimed at turning gay people straight (as if that’s possible) is discrimination.

    3. The people in a marriage are the ones who define it. And if the Bible is accurate, a quick reading of it will show that marriage has not always been the way that we view it. Or, we can look at history, and see that marriage used to be a business contract, and had very little to do with love. But, more importantly, there are a lot of things that used to be done in the name of tradition. Thankfully, definitions and traditions have changed. We know that some of the things that we used to do in the past, even in the name of religion, were wrong.

    4. Your fourth point couldn’t be more wrong. Marriage as it stands now is a legal institution, and as such there are a lot of legal rights that married couples have, and take for granted, that gay people do not have. Because of DOMA there are even rights that are being denied to those gay couples who are legally married. That is not equal. Do a little research on the topic.[/quote]

    Awesome post!!! Thank you for an intelligent informed point of view.

  126. Avatar of GHteenybopper
    GHteenybopper

    theroomstops–
    I’m sorry that you were bullied in high school, and that you’ve lost people you know who’ve taken their lives,
    but there are millions of teens across the globe who are bullied and don’t end up fatally harming themselves nor do they even contemplate that very thought. This just goes to show that bullying alone isn’t the main catalyst in the case of suicide. Unfortunately some people aren’t mentally strong enough, are emotionally sensitive, and predisposed to sadness and bullying just adds fuel to the fire. Never once did I make any claims about what bullying was. I’ve been to school I know what classifies as bullying and how severe it can be.

    Another poster requested I do some googling, and I found this very interesting article http://outspokennyc.com/shoutout/how-to-talk-about-lgbt-suicide-in-the-media

    In retrospect, the gay community and their rise against chick fi-la can be considered bullying, a dude gives his honest opinion and he’s being attacked.

    Bookerman wrote:Posts like this are exactly why “the gay community” continues to be one of the most obnoxious movements in the US. You do not get to tell people how to feel or act. Isn’t that what you’re criticizing the Chick-fil-A CEO for?

    If you make a gay joke it’s letters to the network, it’s a bitchy complaint from LGBT, it’s called “offensive.” If anyone is against gay marriage they receive death threats and people call for their jobs. Really, you want someone to be homeless because they disagree with you. What in the hell does that accomplish?

    Bottom line: Everyone has the right to be who they are, love who they want to love, and live how they want to live. You do not get the right to tell people what they can and cannot do. The Chick-fil-A CEO has no power to prevent anyone from doing anything, he is just stating his opinion.
    *******
    Thank you bookerman for that post

    In my first post on this ridiculous thread, my point was that it’s not fair for the gay community to demand respect and the rights to express their beliefs and then go and aggressively attack people who are doing the same thing expressing their beliefs because their views are opposing.

    Telling someone they should be ashamed of themselves and that they’ve made an ass of themselves because their views differ from yours…Really? Seriously? After all that huffing and puffing…I have to laugh at that. Pot meet kettle.
    All I’ve seen from the gay community thus far is them doing the same thing they are asking others not to do of them. Even posters on this very thread have resorted to calling people names, bashing those who are religious by calling them zealots, saying one is an ass because of their differing opinion. What’s the difference and what are you accomplishing by doing so?

    I’m trying to see the other side here and I’m trying to understand the obnoxious outrage, maybe it’s because I’m Canadian and gay marriage has been legal nationwide for about 10 years now I believe, and very rarely do I hear about a teen committing suicide under the circumstances discussed here. It’s obviously not as prevalent here as it is in the states. Gay rights are not an issue in my country and my cousin can freely plan her wedding to her same sex partner without facing any prop 8 laws or scrutiny and maybe that’s why I do not see why a man speaking his honest opinion on his stance or some actress whose life and where she chooses to spend the money that she earns herself and spends at whatever fast food place of choice is relevant, but it’s just tiring that every little comment or joke is blown way out of proportion by the gay community. It’s like people who say minorities like to play the race card, not everything is about hate. Melissa never made any statement condemning gays.

    I’m going to wash my keyboard of this thread as I don’t see it going anywhere. If I offended anybody with my opinion I am genuinely sorry. It would foolish of me as a black canadian to be against anyone because of their sexuality, when my ancestors were discriminated against because of the color of their skin in similar fashion. If my post gave off the vibe that I was against gays, that was truly not my intention. This site has always been a fun place where we could respectfully discuss our favorite soaps. And that’s what I’ll go back to doing. For those of you who want to express yourselves freely, but don’t like it when others express opposing beliefs…check yourselves. As Ghandi said, and eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind.

    Goodnight.

  127. Avatar of TomZulawski
    TomZulawski

    And at the end of a very long day of your posts, you still don’t understand that the point here isnt your first amendment rights, or vocalizing your opinion. It’s about discrimination, unless you are the one being treated differently then I wouldn’t expect you to understand.

  128. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    [quote=thebookerman][quote=appleridge]One more time not upset over the anti gay marriage issue its the fact that CFA doantes money to many anti gay groups. One of which is the fRC. The FRC Supports UGANDA’s bill that they should be allowed to round up all of the GLBT people and KILL THEM.

    How can anyone on here support a company that supports killing people for who they are.[/quote]

    But do they give money to the FRC BECAUSE of that reason? No.

    @Tom, feel free.[/quote]
    —————————————————————————
    CFA gives $$$$ to FRC and FRC does support the UGANDA movement to kill all gays. That is the important thing. here. There is no whitewashing that. They give money to people that want to kill GLBT folks for no other reason than they are GLBT. No one ever should be defending a group that murders another group just for who they are.
    Do they know what the FRC does with their money that they give them. They may not but there is one way to fix that, research FRC. It’s not that hard to find that info. So Im sorry but I dont buy the whole they dont give the money for that, so its ok BS & anyone who does is disgusting.

  129. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    Im gonna say this and I hate to do it because it shouldnt matter what Sexuality you are, defending CFA who gives dollars to FRC which supports UGANDA’s killing of Gays is just wrong cause no human should support murder of anyone for just who they are.
    However, I cant get over the fact that there are GLBT people on here who are defending CFA, WTH. They give money and support people who want you DEAD for no reason beside who you ARE. Dont you see how wrong that is?????

  130. Avatar of caitlinp
    caitlinp

    [quote=MysteryStory]

    There are places in the country you can be fired for being Hispanic, black, fat, fired for anything. You are just told you “don’t fit the image of the company”. [/quote]

    Getting fired for most of these reasons is illegal, but, that’s not the case when it comes to being fired for being gay. There aren’t just laws against employment discrimination based on race, sex, or national origin, there are also ones that would cover someone who is fired because they are fat, as long as the person’s weight didn’t inhibit them from carrying out their responsibilities. Obviously that doesn’t mean that bigoted employers still won’t fire people for these reasons, just that there is a system in place to dissuade them from doing so, and for the employees to seek some relief in case they are discriminated against.

    Lawmakers and activist have been trying to get ENDA passed, which would protect gay and lesbian people from being fired because of their sexual orientation.

  131. Avatar of Parrothead
    Parrothead

    i saw so many great comments today on different news websites about this & a couple of my favorites were a picture of the line into 1 Chick-fil-a & it said “Wouldn’t it be nice if all these Christians were lined up like this to help the homeless or help feed the poor like Jesus said to do in the Bible”
    & the other one was ” i wonder how much money would of been raised if all these people donated the money they would of spent on their food there & donated it to a worthy charity, which is more Christian-like”

    i support everyone’s right to free speech, i don’t support a company that donates money to hate groups & when some of my friends were told what this company donated to they didn’t care, they said that these charities help educate gays not to kill them so i don’t know if they’re just believing what’s been told to them by other people who think this way & just don’t bother to educate themselves by looking up these charities & see exactly what they really do & how they whitewash their mission to sound like they’re helping or they’re just burying their heads in the sand & feel like if it’s not affecting me who cares.

  132. Avatar of caitlinp
    caitlinp

    [quote=SoapArmageddon]It’s amazing how people confuse Hate Speech with Free Speech.[/quote]

    People are also free to express their opinions about Chick-fil-A, but what’s really troubling is ignoring the fact that it’s not what Chick-fil-A’s president believes that’s the problem, it’s the actions that he’s taken, which are hateful, and that may have an impact on the lives of homosexual people. I have no problem with the KKK existing, holding meetings, or believing whatever they want to believe, but when they take an action that will have an impact on my life and limit my rights then there’s a problem.

    It’s no longer about free speech at that point, especially since their main issue, just like with Chick-fil-A, is that they have a problem with my existing, period.

    Using the Bible to justify their actions doesn’t make it right. Bigotry wrapped up in religion is still bigotry.

  133. Avatar of man5996853
    man5996853

    1) Explain to me why marriage isn’t a “right” for anyone. You right-wing loons love to throw out that argument constantly but you can’t ever explain it with even a modicum of logic. I could fly to Vegas, ply some idiot stranger with tons of liquor and then bring her to a 24 hour drive-thru chapel…no questions asked. It seems that I have more of a right to marriage than I do just about any “right” articulated in the Bill of Rights…actually, it seems that I have any easier path to marriage than I do life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness. So explain to me, in some legitimate way outside of the bullshit double-speak that your politicians use, how marriage isn’t really a right. The only thing that I can come up with is that it isn’t a right SOLELY because gays aren’t offered the opportunity to marry ONE individual of the same sex.(I emphasize ONE only because you idiots like to bring in the polygamy and bestiality marriage bull).
    2) Yes. That’s the easy argument. Since you completely discount the shame that any self-respecting gay man or woman would feel working and eating there, I’m not going to bother arguing this point. It’s like saying that a woman is free to work for a boss who believes that females are secondclass citizens and that they belong at home wearing an apron. Technically, you are right but you think solely in black and white.

    3)The definition of marriage has changed countless times throughout the centuries. People married for dowries. Young teenage girls were betrothed to heathen rulers to promote peace between kingdoms. And, since you are obviously a bible thumper, perhaps you should read about Abraham and his many sons, david, jacob and solomon one more time–they wouldn’t have fit your definition of marriage. You are picking the definition of marriage that suits your argument and ignoring thousands of years of human and biblical history where your argument wouldn’t hold up.
    4)They can still prevent the gays from visiting loved ones in hospitals and making end of life decisions. They are still preventing gays from pensions and inheritances that they deserve just like anyone else. They don’t have equal rights if they can’t enjoy the many priveleges bestowed upon married couples…and what you idiots forget is that many of the benefits enjoyed by married couples are logistical, legal and financial. If marriage were so sacred to you, you’d marry for the sake of marrying but I’m sure that you check off that dependant box or file that joint tax return and enjoy many of the governmental perks of marriage no matter how fit you might be as a spouse. The covenant of marriage was created for tax breaks.
    5)The fact that you use a valedictorian example says to me that you have the thinking ability of a reasonably intelligent APE. And, believe me, no one would ever claim that you were born with the abilities to achieve anything resembling high stature. There are biological studies galore that support gay as inate. WHat you might be pleased to know is that there are also many studies on stupid. If you ever can’t pay the rent on your trailer, you might be able to volunteer for one of those studies.

    Death threats? A few straight boys strung up Matthew Shepard and left him to die. Harvey Milk was assassignated by a straight man. Religious loons bomb abortion clinics and threaten the doctors. Straight preachers claim that gays should be killed and/or banished to their own island. Gays aren’t the ones who resort to violence when they disagree with an opinion.

    And, Jennifer Reeves is a twat. I’ll be happy to tune her out on the days when I watch Sammy get into some crazy shit.

  134. Avatar of SoapArmageddon
    SoapArmageddon

    GHteenybopper, you claim to not be against gays and yet in your posts you quote and appear to agree with some of the most hateful and asinine posters in the whole thread.

    Thank you very much for your support.

  135. Avatar of J Bernard Jones
    J Bernard Jones

    md1347 wrote

    That’s not why [Chick-fil-A] are being boycotted. Chick is being boycotted because they give money to anti-gay groups.

    1) Chick-Fil-A Vice President Launched Marriage And Family Legacy Fund.
    2) FCA (Fellowship of Christian Athletes)- Ministry Leader Application Condemns “Impure Lifestyle” of Gays.
    3) Exodus International – that promotes “Ex-Gay” Therapy.
    4) Family Research Council- has been designated As An Anti-Gay Hate Group By the SPLC.
    5) Georgia Family Council – Argued For Prop 8
    6) National Christian Foundation – Donates To Anti-Gay Groups

    DING! DING! DING! DING! DING!

    Only the intentionally deaf can’t hear it…

  136. Avatar of RealityCheck 33
    RealityCheck 33

    [quote=SoapArmageddon]It’s amazing how people confuse Hate Speech with Free Speech.[/quote]

    All speech is covered. Read the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Get educated on the subject before you open your ignorant mouth.

  137. Avatar of Sterlincooperdraperpryce
    Sterlincooperdraperpryce

    [quote=RealityCheck 33][quote=SoapArmageddon]It’s amazing how people confuse Hate Speech with Free Speech.[/quote]

    All speech is covered. Read the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Get educated on the subject before you open your ignorant mouth.[/quote]

    Really? All speech? So I can say on tv, radio, or in print that Melissa Reeves has killed 6 people in three states? Can I call the Secret Service and threaten the President? Can I tell the judge I am in front of for a traffic ticket to fuck himself and the pig cop who pulled me over?

    C’mon. There are obvious exemptions to complete Free Speech. But that is hardly the point is it? Just like SOME Christian do with the Bible, SOME Conservatives like to pick and choose parts of the Constitution that fit their pre-existing beliefs. I sincerely doubt that if this was about flag burning that MR would have tweeted her Freedom of Speech comment about how she was out burning a flag too in support.

    After reading some of these hateful comments, it is no wonder so many soap actors stay closeted. Hate is hate.

  138. Avatar of Sterlincooperdraperpryce
    Sterlincooperdraperpryce

    [quote=RealityCheck 33][quote=SoapArmageddon]It’s amazing how people confuse Hate Speech with Free Speech.[/quote]

    All speech is covered. Read the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Get educated on the subject before you open your ignorant mouth.[/quote]

    Really? All speech? So I can say on tv, radio, or in print that Melissa Reeves has killed 6 people in three states? Can I call the Secret Service and threaten the President? Can I tell the judge I am in front of for a traffic ticket to fuck himself and the pig cop who pulled me over?

    C’mon. There are obvious exemptions to complete Free Speech. But that is hardly the point is it? Just like SOME Christian do with the Bible, SOME Conservatives like to pick and choose parts of the Constitution that fit their pre-existing beliefs. I sincerely doubt that if this was about flag burning that MR would have tweeted her Freedom of Speech comment about how she was out burning a flag too in support.

    After reading some of these hateful comments, it is no wonder so many soap actors stay closeted. Hate is hate.

  139. Avatar of MAPhilsfan
    MAPhilsfan

    Hey Missy…..glad you enjoyed your Chik-fil-a. Just curious – did you enjoy it with yout husband Scott and your kids or did you happen to enjoy the meal with Jason Brooks (ex Peter Blake on DOOL) – who you had an affair with a few years back? Just curious. I don’t know if an affair is part of a “traditional marriage”. I was always a supporter of YOU and your chracter on DOOL….until now. When Jack departs DOOL, he can take Jennifer Rose along with him!

  140. Avatar of Yoryla
    Yoryla

    Getting back to Melissa Reeves, her Twitter account is now protected!
    HAHA! Great demonstration of torpedoing your own career in one swift tweet.

  141. Avatar of Sterlincooperdraperpryce
    Sterlincooperdraperpryce

    I noticed that. For such a big supporter of Free Speech that sure seems hypocritical. She obviously can’t handle a couple of days of attacks that pale in comparison to what the LGBT community has to endure daily in America.

  142. Avatar of cgoff
    cgoff

    so when does the LGBT community boycott the Gasoline companies that get their fuel from The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) who exterminate homosexuals?

    why is it now that if you don’t share someone’s opinion your opinion is wrong?

    I don not care what you do in your bedroom or who you do it with, I just do not care to SEE it or hear about it!

  143. Avatar of cgoff
    cgoff

    [quote=J Bernard Jones]

    md1347 wrote

    That’s not why [Chick-fil-A] are being boycotted. Chick is being boycotted because they give money to anti-gay groups.

    1) Chick-Fil-A Vice President Launched Marriage And Family Legacy Fund.
    2) FCA (Fellowship of Christian Athletes)- Ministry Leader Application Condemns “Impure Lifestyle” of Gays.
    3) Exodus International – that promotes “Ex-Gay” Therapy.
    4) Family Research Council- has been designated As An Anti-Gay Hate Group By the SPLC.
    5) Georgia Family Council – Argued For Prop 8
    6) National Christian Foundation – Donates To Anti-Gay Groups

    DING! DING! DING! DING! DING!

    Only the intentionally deaf can’t hear it…[/quote]

    and it is HIS money to do with as he pleases! just as some of my AA brothers support Muslim activists or drug gangs, or the arts! if you earn the money it is your money.

    so you want to tell the owner of Chic-fil-A what he can do with his money, do I have to right to tell you what you can do with yours? how about all the people living off welfare? my tax dollars from ME working paying some asshole to sit on his ass and do nothing!

    people amaze me!

  144. Avatar of cgoff
    cgoff

    [quote=thebookerman][quote=appleridge]One more time not upset over the anti gay marriage issue its the fact that CFA doantes money to many anti gay groups. One of which is the fRC. The FRC Supports UGANDA’s bill that they should be allowed to round up all of the GLBT people and KILL THEM.

    How can anyone on here support a company that supports killing people for who they are.[/quote]

    But do they give money to the FRC BECAUSE of that reason? No.

    @Tom, feel free.[/quote]

    and yet you buy gasoline from OPEC whose members exterminate homosexuals, is the LGBT going to stop buying gasoline, picket at gas stations?

  145. Avatar of SZima
    SZima

    So many hateful comments on here…you are no better than the person you are chastising.

    I believe Chick-fil-A is a private company, and as such, is entitled to their own views. You don’t have to agree with them or buy their food.

    [quote=cgoff]and yet you buy gasoline from OPEC whose members exterminate homosexuals, is the LGBT going to stop buying gasoline, picket at gas stations?[/quote]

    So true…

  146. Avatar of tennisgirl1
    tennisgirl1

    I saw so many great comments today on different news websites about this & a couple of my favorites were a picture of the line into 1 Chick-fil-a & it said “Wouldn’t it be nice if all these Christians were lined up like this to help the homeless or help feed the poor like Jesus said to do in the Bible”
    & the other one was ” i wonder how much money would of been raised if all these people donated the money they would of spent on their food there & donated it to a worthy charity, which is more Christian-like”

    Read the first page of comments and the last and this struck me – because where was the media last week when 35,000 people converged in Dallas, TX to volunteer their time, energy and money to help those less fortunate?

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/exclusive-blaze-vids-see-whats-happening-on-site-at-restoring-loves-day-of-service/

    So much good happened there – millions of meals sent to food pantries across our country, homes repaired, parks cleaned, etc.

    There are people out there trying to lead the way. Let your actions speak as loud as your words, everyone! Lead by example and not just spewing words on blogs. If you don’t like that Dan Cathy is giving his money to organizations that you disagree with, than don’t give him yours. Give your money/time to support causes that you believe in. It is a wonderful thing to live in a country that allows us to do that!

  147. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    [quote=cgoff]and yet you buy gasoline from OPEC whose members exterminate homosexuals, is the LGBT going to stop buying gasoline, picket at gas stations?[/quote]

    Actually, I don’t drive or have a driver’s lisence. I have no car, so I dont buy gasoline.

  148. Avatar of SoapArmageddon
    SoapArmageddon

    GH’s Brandon Barash does not support Chick Fil A. He posted the following on twitter:

    “Thx Chick Fil A. Seriously. Your abject bigotry and ignorance has prolonged the elasticity of my arteries. #neveragain”

    I love this guy!

  149. Avatar of jphelps
    jphelps

    I just find it ironic that it’s this that causes people to tune out of watching her when she’s been stinking up the screen since her return almost 2 years ago.

    I don’t agree with her or respect her opinion but I respect her right to have an opinion thats different to mine. Isn’t that what America. Is all about. Maybe some should read up about MLK and Ghandi to understand peace, education, and tolerance is the beat way to demonstrate. Folks on the extreme left and right are no diff in their intolerance and lack of willingness to respect the other side has a right to their position just as much as they do.

  150. Avatar of cgoff
    cgoff

    [quote=SoapArmageddon]GH’s Brandon Barash does not support Chick Fil A. He posted the following on twitter:

    “Thx Chick Fil A. Seriously. Your abject bigotry and ignorance has prolonged the elasticity of my arteries. #neveragain”

    I love this guy![/quote]

    opinions are like assholes, we all have one! too bad some think that only their opinion is the ONLY right opinion

    I was once told that my rights end where someone else’s rights begin, maybe more people should follow that…

  151. Avatar of TomZulawski
    TomZulawski

    In the end all these comments don’t really matter, within ten years gay marriage will be recognized and legal throughout the united states and all of the haters will have type 2 diabetes from the chicken sandwiches. Eat up haters!

  152. Avatar of marknsprmo
    marknsprmo

    In this country where people are free to marry and divorce over and over again, and then use the Bible against others who seek to be able to marry the person of their own chosing, is simply an outright attempt at exclusion and prejudice. If the religious world were really hung up on what the Bible says, Missi Reeves would not even be able to make a statement like she did. Women are not aloud to express themselves in public. They are supposed to recieve their instruction by their husband at home. This is a direct reference to the Bible. Plus she would not be alive to express these opinions in public because she would have been stoned to death by her congregation for adultry. Also the Bible.
    My favorite thing I heard a politician say recently is that he believed that marriage was sacred between a man and a woman. Just like his parents. Just like between he and his exwife before they got a divorce………
    Conservative Christians are not really fundimentalists. They are simply a group of people who seek to use the Bible against others to promote their own beliefs. They seldomly use that same book to examine themselves.

  153. Avatar of J Bernard Jones
    J Bernard Jones

    cgoff wrote

    and it is HIS money to do with as he pleases! just as some of my AA brothers support Muslim activists or drug gangs, or the arts! if you earn the money it is your money.

    so you want to tell the owner of Chic-fil-A what he can do with his money, do I have to right to tell you what you can do with yours? how about all the people living off welfare? my tax dollars from ME working paying some asshole to sit on his ass and do nothing!

    A) Correction: it’s not “HIS” money that is at the center of the controversy; it is the charitable arm of the CORPORATION’S money. No one is suggesting that Dan Cathy or any of the other chicken sammich scions can’t support what they want with their own personal money or that even the corporation can’t donate to causes it believes in.

    By the same standard, people who disagree with Chick-fil-A have every right to vote with their wallets their disapproval or to boycott the company. It works BOTH ways. Either you believe in freedom of expression and the First Amendment (since money now equals speech and corporations are people, too) or you don’t.

    B) It’s your right to tell me what to do with my money. I don’t have to do jack shit you tell me, though. You can also not support my business if you disagree with me. Or — by your sloppy logic — do you support with your wallet everyone with whom you disagree or who works to destroy your interests? Speaking of which….

    C) How interesting that you find “Muslim activists” (?) and “drug dealers” more desirable & honorable people than “all the people on welfare,” who you broadly characterize as being lazy bums. Says more about you than anything else, but here is an idea: stop paying your taxes so you don’t “support” them anymore if it bothers you that much. Be a person of principle and risk something meaningful for it. See how that works out for you.

    People “amaze” me, too.

  154. Avatar of hatinliasonisahobby
    hatinliasonisahobby

    So brandon B makes an UGLY hate filled statement about CFA and he is praised on here, Melissa makes a nice statement about freedom of speech and she is trashed and hated. Oh the irony of those who dont want people to hate, hating and insulting others.

  155. Avatar of stoney07
    stoney07

    It’s the way the world goes around. Like I said, I’m a black gay male, totally comfortable with who I am. But everytime someone has a disapproving attitude towards my lifestyle, I don’t get up in arms….whether it be my being gay, or my being black. Everyone has an opinion. There are things I don’t necessarily like, and if someone asks me my opinion on it, I will say I don’t like it. Should I have to pay for my OWN opinion? I Don’t think so.

    But like I said…I totally understand the outrage from CFA’s “stance” in this. BUT, I still think it should be a personal decision. IF you don’t agree with it, just don’t go to CFA. It’s pretty simple. I think majority of what’s going on is so blown out of proportion because people aren’t comfortable with who they are. If you’re gay, you’re gay! We don’t live off of CFA…CFA lives off of us. So if you don’t want to buy it, then don’t. But you don’t have to resort to all of this that’s going on just to prove a point that’s been argued for the past 20 years. CFA has little to do with gay marriage rights….their support or lack of it does not change any laws.

    My point is…if its that much of a big deal (which I understand to some it is), then lets see what we can do about the LAWS…not about one random private company and one man’s views. Because at the end of the day, if CFA goes out of business, MARRIAGE WILL STILL be between a man and a woman in the eyes of most in this country.

    So lets stop going after the small fish that have nothing to do with the matter at hand, and lets go after the sharks that are behind all of this…

  156. Avatar of J Bernard Jones
    J Bernard Jones

    Stoney wrote

    I totally understand the outrage from CFA’s “stance” in this. BUT, I still think it should be a personal decision. IF you don’t agree with it, just don’t go to CFA. It’s pretty simple. I think majority of what’s going on is so blown out of proportion because people aren’t comfortable with who they are. If you’re gay, you’re gay! We don’t live off of CFA…CFA lives off of us. So if you don’t want to buy it, then don’t. But you don’t have to resort to all of this that’s going on just to prove a point that’s been argued for the past 20 years. CFA has little to do with gay marriage rights….their support or lack of it does not change any laws.

    The amount of lack of understanding (and that’s being charitable) here between the connection between corporate lobbying either directly or indirectly via third parties and how laws are crafted, enacted and passed is staggering. Thank God you weren’t around during the Montgomery Bus Boycott or Rosa Parks would have been advised to walk home instead of kicking up such an unnecessary fuss. Fuck whether or not Chik-fil-a directly lobbied our Congress to let stand Uganda’s bills (which was inspired and partially crafted by Christian conservatives in this country) to kill gays in their country — most of whom are black like you — is horrendous, immoral and should be condemned, because goddamn those chicken nuggets and waffle fries are too yummy!

    People who disagree with Chick-fil-A have every right to vote with their wallets their disapproval or to boycott the company whether it is a personal decision OR if it is part of a larger protest. The social and economic dissent against Chick-fil-A are also expressions of First Amendment rights. If Chick-fil-A supporters have decided to support the chain en masse, their critics have the right to protest…en masse. Or should that kind of freedom of expression only work one way?

  157. Avatar of Bellajewels
    Bellajewels

    So you’re going to react to perceived bullying by bullying a woman out of a job? She doesn’t share the same beliefs as you. Big deal. What does her opinion matter to you? Go vote. Vote for someone who shares your beliefs. At the end of it the majority will have spoken, whichever side is the majority, and you’ll know where things stand. People need to stop inflicting their own personal views on everyone else and just deal with themselves. She’s a soap opera actress. Why is what she thinks getting more attention than the lawmakers?

  158. Avatar of SoapArmageddon
    SoapArmageddon

    [quote=Bellajewels]… Vote for someone who shares your beliefs. At the end of it the majority will have spoken, whichever side is the majority, and you’ll know where things stand. …[/quote]

    Civil rights legislation was never put up for a vote in the sixties, nor was the emancipation of slaves one hundred years before that.

    If it had been, we “darkies’ would still be picking cotton and having our women raped by Massa’.

  159. Avatar of J Bernard Jones
    J Bernard Jones
    Bellajewels wrote:

    … Vote for someone who shares your beliefs. At the end of it the majority will have spoken, whichever side is the majority, and you’ll know where things stand. …

    SoapArmageddon responded

    Civil rights legislation was never put up for a vote in the sixties, nor was the emancipation of slaves one hundred years before that.

    If it had been, we “darkies’ would still be picking cotton and having our women raped by Massa’.

    LET THE CHURCH SAY A-MUTHAFUCKIN-MEN!

    The rights of no group in this country — including women — have been put up for vote or the advancement of every group would have suffered by leaps and bounds. The rights of people should NEVER be put of for vote. Ever. The Founding Fathers, even within their own hypocrisy, knew this well:

    “AMONG the numerous advantages promised by a well-constructed Union, none deserves to be more accurately developed than its tendency to break and control the violence of faction. The friend of popular governments never finds himself so much alarmed for their character and fate, as when he contemplates their propensity to this dangerous vice. He will not fail, therefore, to set a due value on any plan which, without violating the principles to which he is attached, provides a proper cure for it. The instability, injustice, and confusion introduced into the public councils, have, in truth, been the mortal diseases under which popular governments have everywhere perished; as they continue to be the favorite and fruitful topics from which the adversaries to liberty derive their most specious declamations. The valuable improvements made by the American constitutions on the popular models, both ancient and modern, cannot certainly be too much admired; but it would be an unwarrantable partiality, to contend that they have as effectually obviated the danger on this side, as was wished and expected. Complaints are everywhere heard from our most considerate and virtuous citizens, equally the friends of public and private faith, and of public and personal liberty, that our governments are too unstable, that the public good is disregarded in the conflicts of rival parties, and that measures are too often decided, not according to the rules of justice and the rights of the minor party, but by the superior force of an interested and overbearing majority. However anxiously we may wish that these complaints had no foundation, the evidence, of known facts will not permit us to deny that they are in some degree true. It will be found, indeed, on a candid review of our situation, that some of the distresses under which we labor have been erroneously charged on the operation of our governments; but it will be found, at the same time, that other causes will not alone account for many of our heaviest misfortunes; and, particularly, for that prevailing and increasing distrust of public engagements, and alarm for private rights, which are echoed from one end of the continent to the other. These must be chiefly, if not wholly, effects of the unsteadiness and injustice with which a factious spirit has tainted our public administrations.”James Madison, Federalist Papers #10

  160. Avatar of mlauenstein
    mlauenstein

    [quote=Transfigurationjc]I’m proud of Melissa and Chick Fil A for standing up for what they believe. It’s about free speech. The Gay Rights Lobby made this a controversy and it back fired on them and bit them in their collective butts!

    Chick Fil A appreciation day was an overwhelming success around the nation. Thank goodness this country hasnt allowed the radical leftist agenda to bully them into submission.[/quote]

    Okay! Let’s make next Wednesday KKK Appreciation Day! Log on to their website and order some T-shirts and bumper stickers promoting white supremacy and subscribe to their newsletter. You know, just to promote free speech. Make sure you tweet about it afterwards!

  161. Avatar of giftofamber
    giftofamber

    I lost all respect for Melissa’s “free speech” statement when she began blocking every single person who disagreed with her on twitter, including those of us who were civil and just trying to get her to see a different point of view. By blocking everyone, she made it very clear that she does not care for free speech and that her tweet was all about bigotry like many people initially believed.

    BTW, if you are getting a notice saying her account is protected, that means you are blocked. Twitter changed its blocking screen.

    For me, this has nothing to do with marriage equality and everything to do with the money Chick Fil A gave to the Family Research Council & Exodus International. I am disappointed that Melissa Reeves chose not to support our boycott, but I am even more disappointed that she chose to block everyone who tried to educate her on why her comment was hurtful, including people who have been fans for 20+ years, tweeting her regularly, and (ironically) a minister’s wife.

  162. Avatar of Grimm
    Grimm

    A posting from elsewhere quoted for truth, have the patience to read and understand:

    “This post is all I have to say about the Chick-Fil-A controversy. It sums up various posts on the issue and various points made by my friends and I. From now own, rather than spend time debating this issue person by person, I’m going to point people here.

    My hope here is to find common ground with those who have disagreed with me on the issue, and maybe to persuade. It’s not to ridicule or to best.

    So, in the interest of common ground, let’s start here: I acknowledge the absurdity of all this debate.

    It’s definitely strange to have days-long Facebook debates flare up everywhere over a chicken sandwich. The anger, sarcasm, and hurt feelings on display seem strange or even laughable because most people have seen Chick-Fil-A as just a restaurant with a funny ad campaign. I’ll get into some of the whys and wherefores of that later. But, for now, let’s just say that, yes. It can seem ridiculous to get all worked up over fast-food chicken.

    Let’s also agree that this isn’t about curtailing anyone’s rights under First Amendment. The Constitution is a legal document. This is not a legal argument. No one is arguing that Chik-fil-A CEO Dan Cathy should be put in prison, or silenced, or censored by the government. This has nothing to do with government censorship or government abridgment of Freedom of Speech. So don’t worry: the ability of this millionaire to legally spend his millions as he sees fit is not in jeopardy. You need not defend it.

    Now, let’s get to the nitty-gritty of things. Please read carefully. These things have been said before, but not by me, and not all in one place. Please read with an open mind. If you can’t read with an open mind, please leave, take a minute, come back, and try again. If you can’t do that, then please don’t bother. Please read all of the words here, rather than just reading half of the argument and assuming you know what I’m saying. Read these words as they are written. Again, if you don’t want to read my words, then don’t continue.

    So here goes:

    1. This isn’t simply about marriage. Shocker, right? It’s extremely frustrating that same-sex marriage is the great continental divide. People are judged according to how they stand on this issue, as if no other issue matters. Did you know that a person can be for same-sex marriage and still be homophobic? Did you know that a person can be against same-sex marriage and be gay? We all get categorized very quickly based on the marriage issue and maybe that’s not fair. But here’s what you should know:

    - In 29 states in America today, my partner of 18 years, Cody, or I could be fired for being gay. Period. No questions asked. One of those states is Louisiana, our home state. We live in self-imposed exile from beloved homeland, family, and friends, in part, because of this legal restriction on our ability to live our lives together.

    - In 75 countries in the world, being gay is illegal. In many, the penalty is life in prison. These are countries we can’t openly visit. In 9 countries, being gay is punishable by death. In many others, violence against gays is tacitly accepted by the authorities. These are countries where we would be killed. Killed.

    - Two organizations that work very hard to maintain this status quo and roll back any protections that we may have are the Family Research Council and the Marriage & Family Foundation. For example, the Family Research council leadership has officially stated that same-gender-loving behavior should be criminalized in this country. They draw their pay, in part, from the donations of companies like Chick-Fil-A. Both groups have also done “missionary” work abroad that served to strengthen and promote criminalization of same-sex relations.

    - Chick-Fil-A has given roughly $5M to these organizations to support their work.

    - Chick-Fil-A’s money comes from the profits they make when you purchase their products.

    2. This isn’t about mutual tolerance because there’s nothing mutual about it. If we agree to disagree on this issue, you walk away a full member of this society and I don’t. There is no “live and let live” on this issue because Dan Cathy is spending millions to very specifically NOT let me live. I’m not trying to do that to him.

    Asking for “mutual tolerance” on this like running up to a bully beating a kid to death on the playground and scolding them both for not getting along. I’m not trying to dissolve Mr. Cathy’s marriage or make his sex illegal. I’m not trying to make him a second-class citizen, or get him killed. He’s doing that to me, folks; I’m just fighting back.

    All your life, you’re told to stand up to bullies, but when WE do it, we’re told WE are the ones being intolerant? Well, okay. Yes. I refuse to tolerate getting my ass kicked. “Guilty as charged.”

    But what are you guilty of? When you see a bully beating up a smaller kid and you don’t take a side, then you ARE taking a side. You’re siding with the bully. And when you cheer him on, you’re revealing something about your own character that really is a shame.

    3. This isn’t about Jesus. I have a lot of Christian friends. Most of them are of the liberal variety, it’s true, but even this concept seems lost on some of you. Most of them are pro-LGBT rights. Pro-gay and Pro-Christ are NOT mutually exclusive. They never have been, in the history of Christianity, though it’s been difficult at times. It’s not impossible to be both.

    If someone is telling you it is, then maybe you should wonder why they’d do that. I see divorced Christians, remarried Christians, drug addict Christians. I see people with WWJD bracelets bumping and grinding on TV and raking in millions to do it. I see greedy, rapacious, vengeful people who are Christians. And these people are accepted in the Church, and the Church does very little to combat them. Sometimes it seems like being gay is the ONLY thing certain modern Christian movements won’t allow. Why’s that, I wonder?

    Jesus had almost nothing to say about sexual behavior of any kind. He was too busy teaching more important things. Empathy is at the heart of his teachings. “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” Remember that? It’s in red. So let’s examine that:

    4. If things were reversed, I’d stand up for you.

    Please think about this: How would you feel if KFC came out tomorrow and said they were spending money against equality for Asian Americans, or African Americans, or religious people? Really. Think about it. What would you do? How would you feel? How would you feel if, after their announcement, there was a big increase in KFC sales and I was all over Facebook supporting KFC. Please stop reading right now and imagine this. I’m serious.

    You can stop now because it’s ludicrous. It would never happen.

    Oh, I don’t mean the part about KFC being against some group. That COULD happen. I mean the part about me supporting them. Let me tell you something, and you can damn well believe it: I’d sign on for the boycott IMMEDIATELY.

    Why? Well, because I believe in equality for all people, that’s why. But also, personally, from the bottom of my heart: because you are my friend, and I don’t willingly support people who harm you for just being you. How could I? How could I, really? But, more importantly for our purposes, how could you?

    Seriously, how could you? What has Chick-Fil-A ever done for you? Sold you some fatty chicken at a ridiculous mark-up? Made you chuckle at semi-literate cartoon cows? You mean more to me than KFC possibly could. If I, in turn, don’t mean more to you than a chicken sandwich from Chik-Fil-A–if my life, my quality of life, and my dignity are such afterthoughts to you that you’d not only refuse the boycott, but go out of your way to support someone who was hurting me? if I let this stand, if I don’t stand up to the bullies and if I let my friends egg the bullies on, what does that make me?

    Well, it makes me a Chikin.

    Yeah, so suddenly it is cause for anger, ridiculous or not.

    But I’m not going to stop being Facebook friends with anyone over this issue.

    Instead, I will remain. And, when you see my face with my partner’s in my profile, maybe you will examine not simply what your opinions are about gay people, or gay marriage, or the first amendment, even; maybe you’ll examine not merely your opinions but your values. What is friendship to you? What is loyalty? How important are human life and dignity to you? Are they more important than fitting in with your social group? Are they more important than loyalty to a corporate brand, or a political party, or some misguided church teaching?

    That’s why we’re so angry. This is personal for us. There are times in your life when you have the opportunity to stand up for your friends. When you let that opportunity pass, your friends notice. It doesn’t mean we can’t be friends, but it diminishes you, and it diminishes the friendship. That’s how it is, no matter what the issue or what the venue.

    So stand up. Stand up for us. Do the right thing. You don’t have to agree with us on everything, but repudiate Chick-Fil-A. Unlike them on Facebook. Withdraw your support for them. Join us in the boycott. If you can’t do that, then please ask yourself whether I’m your friend. In fact, ask yourself whether anyone is.

    This is all I have to say. If you’d like to debate the issue further, I’ll do it, but I’m not going to go around and around on the same points. If you’re just going to repeat yourself, save us both some time. If you haven’t taken the time to actually read this carefully and actually consider carefully what I’ve said, then I see no reason to waste further words.

    The ball is in your court. Again, I urge you to do the right thing.

    - Wayne Self”

  163. Avatar of Y2Jin99
    Y2Jin99

    Freedom of speech freedom of beliefs freedom of thoughts. I have absolutely no problem with gays and lesbians on soaps. In fact I am find Will’s storyline the best story on the soap. But I cannot stand the 60% viewers who seem to only watch the soap for the gay storyline and they bash the writers for not getting hotter gay love scenes and now people are bashing a 25 year soap vet cuz of her beliefs and calling her trash and turning the channel when she is on. So pathetic.

  164. Avatar of Katheryn71
    Katheryn71

    [quote=david46208]@Y2Jin99: Well said![/quote]

    Look on the bright side you two. With all the ‘hating’ and ‘bashing’ in this thread, Missy will probably land in the DC top 20 next month.

    And Y2Jin99, I’m right there with you. As a lesbian, I don’t mind the 99% of straight storylines on soaps, but the 90% of folks that bash the writers for not putting their faves together or not showing enough straight sex/naked men bugs me, too. Wait…nevermind.

  165. Avatar of thebookerman
    thebookerman

    To everyone complaining about Melissa Reeves, Chick-fil-A and/or people against gay marriage:

    Have you ever purchased gas? 13% of our oil comes from the Middle East, where countries have policies to kill, stone and disgrace gay people. Every major company in the US imports oil from the Middle East.

    Now, everyone go back to talking about Daisy and Todd Manning.

    /Thread

  166. Avatar of Dyllan
    Dyllan

    I am going to quasi defend MR. While I disagree with what Mr. Cathy stands on LGBT issues, I was upset that certain politicians were implying that they were going to deny business permits to Chick-fil=a for his positions. Kind of Fascist. Unless he is denying employment or service to the GLBT community, I cannot fathom on what ground you can block a business.

    MR said she went to Chick-fil-a to support the owner’s freedom of expression. I’ll take her at her word because that’s my position, also. I hate his public policy position, but he has a right to say it. Nothing from her tweet implied her position on gay marriage. So calling her “trash” and “whore” is quite a paradox for the champions of “tolerance”.

  167. Avatar of Dyllan
    Dyllan

    [quote] Okay! Let’s make next Wednesday KKK Appreciation Day! Log on to their website and order some T-shirts and bumper stickers promoting white supremacy and subscribe to their newsletter. You know, just to promote free speech. Make sure you tweet about it afterwards!{[/quote]

    I am sure this was intended as sarcasm, but a bigot has every right to be a bigot. If the KKK wants to adopt a highway, they have every legal right, even though I completely oppose them. Who is to determine what speech is appropriate?

    The only exception might be if they are listed as a terrorist organization. Which is highly likely, then they can be censored.

  168. Avatar of stoney07
    stoney07

    There’s BIGGGGG staggering difference between the Civil Rights Movement (or Rosa Parks’ stance) and this Chic-Fil-A crap…

    First off, Rosa Parks was discriminated against. She was told she was not allowed to do what she saw others doing.

    What has Chic-Fil-A discriminated?

    If I were born during that era in history, I would’ve completed supported everything that they were doing because it was unequal. And as I keep saying, if this was a fight against THE LAW then fine!! But CFA has nothing to do with the law. It just seems TO ME, that because gay marriage isn’t legal in all 50 states that “we” are attacking other people that don’t have much to do with the matter at hand. I’m sure Rosa Parks wouldn’t have minded had that bus driver just internally “THOUGHT” that blacks should sit in the back. BUT, because it was an actual RULE, then she took a stand. My point is, there’s a difference between opinion and law. Cathy’s OPINION has nothing to do with governmental LAW. So why attack one man’s opinion when the matter at hand is about the law??????????????
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  169. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    CFA Gives money to anti gay groups. Some of these groups work to turn gays straight. Some want all gays exiled and some even want all gays dead. That is the ISSUE here & if you dont think that is discrimination then you need to be re-educated on what the word means.

    How can anyone here supportt CFA when some of their money goes to a group that wants to KILL all gays.

    Do you understand why people are pissed off now?

  170. Avatar of thebookerman
    thebookerman

    [quote=appleridge]CFA Gives money to anti gay groups. Some of these groups work to turn gays straight. Some want all gays exiled and some even want all gays dead. That is the ISSUE here & if you dont think that is discrimination then you need to be re-educated on what the word means.

    How can anyone here supportt CFA when some of their money goes to a group that wants to KILL all gays.

    Do you understand why people are pissed off now?[/quote]

    And millions of gay people in the US buy gas, gas that comes from oil from Middle East countries that stone, torture and murder gays.

    Do you understand why you’re all idiots now?

  171. Avatar of TomZulawski
    TomZulawski

    So should we all walk to work, ride a bike? There are choice to be made with what you eat, there is a blatant “fuck you” involved when you say I am supporting CFA. How about I go back to the 60′s and say you know what I am perfectly ok with blacks not using my entrances into a public place, or drinking from my water fountain, or seating in a restaurant in my section. So I own a southern establishment that donates money do I ensure that my way of life is protected over your way of life. Since the money is mine, I can do whatever I want with it and since I have freedom of speech I can say that blacks do not have the same rights as I do. Equal, but separate. Does that ring a bell? If it wasn’t for your ancestors and some whites who understood your plight, you would still be riding in the back of the bus. At some point, someone stood up on your behalf so you could have the same rights and respect as the white guy living next to you.

  172. Avatar of Dyllan
    Dyllan

    There are reasons the media didn’t go down this so called rabbit hole of CFA supporting the killing of gays. Have you notlticed no major source has made that claim besides random blogs? Because if we use that logic, Obama, NAACP, human rights watch, and others are terrorists. Puhlzee.

  173. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    [quote=thebookerman]And millions of gay people in the US buy gas, gas that comes from oil from Middle East countries that stone, torture and murder gays.Do you understand why you’re all idiots now?[/quote]

    13% of gas is from anti gay groups unfortunately we dont know which stations. If we did im sure people would not go there

    However we know CFA gives money to Anti-Gay groups who want Gays dead. So anyone who goes there and spends money helps that cause. Since U go there and know they back this, IMHO your no better than the ones that want to kill gays and If your gay and go to CFA, your helping someone who wants YOU DEAD for just being YOU. That’s twisted. Thjere is no way to make that sound good. Stop trying.

  174. Avatar of soapjunkie88
    soapjunkie88

    Over 200 comments and I’m shocked how some people in this country think. I really am. I wanted to stay quiet – and will return to doing so – because some people just twist your words around or come on with some stupid statement about gas stations. But at this point I had to say something…

    The issue are not the gas stations or the middle east countries they are coming from. The government of these countries is watched by human right groups all over the world. And while we can do little for changing how foreign government think, we could at least expect that fellow American people are wiser.
    We should expect that no organization or group would want people in prison or dead for their sexual orientation.

    “thebookerman”, you can argue as hard as you want. You can call gays idiots and be offensive. I won’t even flag your comments. I just feel sorry for you. Somewhere in these over 200 comments you even said that you weren’t pro- or anti-gay. But as I pointed out before you doing an awful job on justifying whatever goes on in this country against gay people. So much so that you are have to use words like “idiots” to make a point. That is sad!

  175. Avatar of thebookerman
    thebookerman

    [quote=appleridge][quote=thebookerman]And millions of gay people in the US buy gas, gas that comes from oil from Middle East countries that stone, torture and murder gays.Do you understand why you’re all idiots now?[/quote]

    13% of gas is from anti gay groups unfortunately we dont know which stations. If we did im sure people would not go there

    However we know CFA gives money to Anti-Gay groups who want Gays dead. So anyone who goes there and spends money helps that cause. Since U go there and know they back this, IMHO your no better than the ones that want to kill gays and If your gay and go to CFA, your helping someone who wants YOU DEAD for just being YOU. That’s twisted. Thjere is no way to make that sound good. Stop trying.[/quote]

    EVERY SINGLE GAS STATION IN THE US USES A COMPANY THAT IMPORTS OIL FROM THE MIDDLE EAST. I already stated that before.

    Just stop because you’re embarrassing yourself. The Chick-fil-A employees, and the manager who runs individual restaurants probably do not agree with the CEO and yet you are trying to hurt them with a boycott.

    You’re a hypocrite. You’re fine giving money to one place that directly kills gay people and yet you’re not fine giving money to another. Textbook definition.

  176. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    Actually Bookerman I dont drive or have a car so I dont buy gas. So dont put names on me.

    Also I would persume a lot of people do drive cars. Gasoline is a necessity to drive cars Given 13% of the gas that we get comes from Anti gay places and we have no clue what gas ends up at what gas station, its hard to boycott. Im sure if we knew it was gas station A & C that did that, there would be boycotts as well

    My point is with CFA we know they give money to anti gay groups that want Gays to go away & some want us DEAD. So if you know that for sure, why give that place money. Yes Eating is needed or you die but you dont neec to eat at CFA to live.

  177. Avatar of hatinliasonisahobby
    hatinliasonisahobby

    [quote=stoney07]There’s BIGGGGG staggering difference between the Civil Rights Movement (or Rosa Parks’ stance) and this Chic-Fil-A crap…

    First off, Rosa Parks was discriminated against. She was told she was not allowed to do what she saw others doing.

    What has Chic-Fil-A discriminated?

    If I were born during that era in history, I would’ve completed supported everything that they were doing because it was unequal. And as I keep saying, if this was a fight against THE LAW then fine!! But CFA has nothing to do with the law. It just seems TO ME, that because gay marriage isn’t legal in all 50 states that “we” are attacking other people that don’t have much to do with the matter at hand. I’m sure Rosa Parks wouldn’t have minded had that bus driver just internally “THOUGHT” that blacks should sit in the back. BUT, because it was an actual RULE, then she took a stand. My point is, there’s a difference between opinion and law. Cathy’s OPINION has nothing to do with governmental LAW. So why attack one man’s opinion when the matter at hand is about the law??????????????
    ????????????????????????
    ????????????????????????[/quote]

    thank you it is no where near the same thing as civil rights!

  178. Avatar of hatinliasonisahobby
    hatinliasonisahobby

    [quote=appleridge][quote=thebookerman]And millions of gay people in the US buy gas, gas that comes from oil from Middle East countries that stone, torture and murder gays.Do you understand why you’re all idiots now?[/quote]

    13% of gas is from anti gay groups unfortunately we dont know which stations. If we did im sure people would not go there

    However we know CFA gives money to Anti-Gay groups who want Gays dead. So anyone who goes there and spends money helps that cause. Since U go there and know they back this, IMHO your no better than the ones that want to kill gays and If your gay and go to CFA, your helping someone who wants YOU DEAD for just being YOU. That’s twisted. Thjere is no way to make that sound good. Stop trying.[/quote]

    Prove it, show me where they say they want gays dead. I have never ever read that, i have read love the sinner hate the sin. I have read about trying to help them NEVER have i seen anywhere about wanting them dead. i think that is melodramatic hyperbole.

  179. Avatar of Llanview76
    Llanview76

    It’s weird…because like a while ago, when Kirk Cameron put his foot in it over his views of homosexuality, there was a backlash from fellow child stars of his generation who told him to get real – that homosexuals were the same types of people who dressed his hair, applied his make-up, made him laugh on the set, etc., So I am trying to think how, if in all actuality Melissa Reeves did tweet this, how she evaded gays and lesbians who are plentiful in the business she works in for as long as she has, and that’s all the way back to 1984! Why should it honestly bother her? I don’t get it. I hope it all turns out not to be true, because I’d really hate for her to become the Anita Bryant of daytime and get a pie in her puss.
    Erik

  180. Avatar of thebookerman
    thebookerman

    [quote=appleridge]Actually Bookerman I dont drive or have a car so I dont buy gas. So dont put names on me.

    Also I would persume a lot of people do drive cars. Gasoline is a necessity to drive cars Given 13% of the gas that we get comes from Anti gay places and we have no clue what gas ends up at what gas station, its hard to boycott. Im sure if we knew it was gas station A & C that did that, there would be boycotts as well

    My point is with CFA we know they give money to anti gay groups that want Gays to go away & some want us DEAD. So if you know that for sure, why give that place money. Yes Eating is needed or you die but you dont neec to eat at CFA to live.[/quote]

    But that just furthers your hypocrisy and how you really don’t care about the issue. If gay marriage is so important you would support NO company that did anything to prevent it from happening.

    Gandhi refused to eat because of what he believed in. If this is such an important issue no gay person should buy gas, should ever get on an airplane or get on a bus.

    No, bottom line this is just another thing for an overly sensitive minority group of people to whine about. Don’t you have better things to do with your life than constantly complain?

  181. Avatar of theroomstops
    theroomstops

    She could be of the kind who doesn’t mind, she just doesn’t think they should be allowed to be married. Or she could just not care. We don’t know, because she hasn’t said a word, except for her husband who’s just said his wife is a fine, real Christian woman.

    Point is, she supported a company that is under fire because of statements made, things have been revealed, and it’s pretty much impossible for her to avoid it. She chose, on a day where people were flocking TO Chick-Fil-A to support their views ON gay marriage, to go to Chick-Fil-A and then tweet about it. She could have easily taken one of the tons of tweets she got asking WTF was going on and said “I support love and the right to love and marry the person you love, but I also enjoy Chick-Fil-A’s food. I should have voiced it differently.” She did nothing.

  182. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    Bookerman since you seem to over look it, I dont care about Mr Cathy’s stance on Gay marriage. Im pissed off that CFA gives money to groups that are anti-gay and in the past have supported things that try to fix, exile and in some instances call for gays to be killed. That is the ISSUE.

    You may not support my right to marry or not want my marriage to be called marriage and ok I can live with that, BUT when you give money to CFA who intiurn uses that money to support anti gay groups that want to harm gays for being who they are, that is not acceptable and not free speech. If you give CFA your money then you are at the very least indirectly supporting these anti gay groups ideas and practices.

  183. Avatar of Katheryn71
    Katheryn71

    Bookerman, are you a Chick-Fil-A franchise owner? Because as another poster pointed out, for someone who claims to have no feelings pro or anti-gay, you sure are arguing like you have a personal stake in whether gays/lesbians boycott this company.

  184. Avatar of EricasEvilTwin
    EricasEvilTwin

    Can I ask a question – I find this whole issue very perplexing in that on the one hand I support gay marriage and I believe in basic human equality. On the other hand, I also understand that for some people this is a religious belief and i appreciate their right to believe as they choose even if I disagree, esp. when its an individual like dan cathay who SEEMS not only to talk the talk but also walk the walk (ie he isnt preaching for family values and bedding a mistress in private at least that we know of).

    I have tried to find out the financials because while I think he has every right to give to groups that support traditional marriage as an expression of his religion (again even if I personally dont agree) the whole Uganda issue troubles me immensely – that goes beyond IMHO freedom of religion when you are talking about killing people simply for being who they are.

    Ive seen the number 5 million tossed around and the number 1.9 mil in terms of what chic fil a gives to “hate groups”. The ONLY break down I could find seems to be this -

    WinShape has received a substantial amount of funding from Chick-fil-A: in 2010 alone, WinShape received $8,067,161 from Chick-fil-A Inc. [WinShape 2010, Publicly Available IRS 990 Form via Foundation Center, accessed 6/27/12]
    WinShape Gave Over $1.9 Million To Anti-Gay Groups. In 2010, WinShape donated $1,974,380 to a number of anti-gay groups:

    •Marriage & Family Foundation: $1,188,380
    •Fellowship Of Christian Athletes: $480,000
    •National Christian Foundation: $247,500
    •New Mexico Christian Foundation: $54,000
    •Exodus International: $1,000
    •Family Research Council: $1,000
    •Georgia Family Council: $2,500
    [Winshape 2010 Publicly Available IRS 990 Form via Foundation Center, accessed 6/27/12]

    Now I can understand the FRC issue because FRC as one of its many issues lobbied against the uganda bill and i know exodus tries to among its activities “retrain” gay individuals to be straight – both of which i find objectionable but what is it that these other groups do in particular that is in question. Is it just that they are for people that share mr. cathays beliefs or do they fall more in the exodus/frc category and if so how? (im not asking to be anti this or pro that, I just want to fully understand the issue). If its just 2K out of an organization then i have to say that would be troubling because its so little compared to winshapes overall budget and is probably little in terms of the frc or exodus budget (in other words if winshape didnt give the 1K I doubt exodus would have been forced to shut its doors and we dont know if it was a targeted gift to fund projects that arent objectionable.)

    http://colrebsez.blogspot.com/2012/08/most-chick-fil-giving-highly-laudable-5.html

    IF its only 2K then I hate to say it but bookermans argument (even if done in a way that lacks understanding for what the other side feels) may have merit. While its true that its difficult to really pick out one gas station that gets foreign oil, because it appears that most either get their gas from the persian gulf or they use persian refineries, it does appear that you CAN pick out who the greatest offenders seem to be – exxon mobile and texaco/chevron. Its also pretty easy to pick out the companies that are more minor offenders such as sunoco and hess. I would argue no group is required to target ALL objectionable businesses in order to legitimately target ONE (ie rosa parks didnt need to stand at the drinking fountains, public toilets and restaurants in order to be justified in standing on the bus) BUT it does seem a little hypocritical if you target a company that gives 2K in objectionable donations when gas companies from countries that literally stone gay people get a pass. Which is the bigger offender?

  185. Avatar of EricasEvilTwin
    EricasEvilTwin

    I will say this about MR – her affair seems to be a thing of the past and one that she apparently regrets. If she has asked for gods forgiveness, and Im sure she has, she has been forgiven. She also seems to have been forgiven by her husband. That mistake doesnt disqualify her from having a personal opinion and I think its sad that people are throwing that back in her face. I know I wouldnt want someone to use mistakes I made five or ten years ago and who i was then against me as a human being now because hopefully in that time I have grown and my maturity has made me a different and better person. I also dont think her personal opinion warrants death threats or attacks on her personally. All she has said in this tweet is that she supports this mans right to express his religious beliefs. Any issues she is unaware of is something she should be respectfully educated on not castigated for – just because someone doesnt get it doesnt make them a person deserving of derision. Shes a human being and should be treated the same way each of us wants to be treated, not only because thats the decent thing to do but because it teaches by example.

  186. Avatar of david46208
    david46208

    @EricasEvilTwin: This happens in the black community where we have habit of wanting to target cops or a non-black person killing an African American male. But the stats show that the greatest threat to black life is another black person themselves given that black on black murders far-outweigh any murders from outside sources. So I see the point you are making totally. In this way both my community (African Americans) and those of the gay community are mirroring similar selectivity of outrage.

  187. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    For me I dont support CFA for giving money to anti-gay groups. I dont care how much money one group gets over the other, it still goes to fund what that group stands for which is discrimination, reperative therapy & in some cases backing those who want to see Gays Dead.

  188. Avatar of EricasEvilTwin
    EricasEvilTwin

    Apple let me ask this – lets say i believe in the concept of using animals for medical research BUT at the same time I advocate for healthy eating and as a big celebrity peta is aware of my commitment to that issue. Peta asks me for a donation to get vegan hot dogs introduced in to major sporting events (which peta actually has done with nascar). WHile I disagree with the group on medical testing, I give them 1 k as a targeted gift FOR their campaign to encourage nascar attendees to try vegan dogs. A few years later peta releases some animals designated for HIV research and along comes and HIV group and slams me for helping to block important medical research. They turn around and LIST as proof of my activities this 1K donation to PETA even though it was really for the vegan burgers.

    For this reason the amount WinShape gave and what they gave it towards I would think is VERY relevant. Im not saying I disagree with you Im just saying I need to know more about what it is that folks are objecting to given the serious allegations that have been made. If this guy is just giving to support traditional marriage, even though I disagree, I do understand his right to his faith.

  189. Avatar of TomZulawski
    TomZulawski

    Faith or not, I do not support the alienation of a minority over the agenda of an organized religion. When harm comes to another person at the hand of an individual or group due to what they believe then people thinking in their right mind need to step in. I thankful we have a supreme court since their ruling must be according to law and
    Not their personal beliefs. Sometimes a person just needs to see the forest through the trees to do what is right.

  190. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    Erica
    Im sorry but now a days its just to easy to look about groups and see what they practice. So i find it hard to swallow they dont know what their money is going to support

  191. Avatar of EricasEvilTwin
    EricasEvilTwin

    Apple you have missed my point. Just because you give to a group doesnt mean you give to the groups entire mission. I can give a dedicated donation to say PETA (in my example for vegan hot dogs) without necessarily supporting the mission of PETA in its entirety. You dont seem to be questioning the relatively small amounts of money that we APPEAR to be talking about – 2 K – and if we are only talking about two thousand dollars then it seems that chik fil may in fact be a target only because they believe in christianity when there are far bigger offenders all over the place (ie: I would think companies that take millions of dollars worth of product from a nation that condemns people to die for their sexual orientation such as perhaps exxon.) If this guy is only being targeted because he espoused a support of what he considers to be his faith then yes, i have a problem with that.

    Tom what if Cathay turned around and argued that in fact as a christian HE is the minority and you are attempting to discriminate against him? Wouldnt that be accurate? this is the problem im having with all of this – while on the one hand I support lgbt causes i also support freedom of religion. right now this situation to me reads like folks are asking citizens to discriminate against one or the other – discriminate against someone based on sexual orientation in support of CFA/Dan C. or discriminate against someone based on religion in opposition to CFA/Dan C. Im uncomfortable with both positions. The “smoking gun” if you will is if there is demonstrable proof that he directly supports the idea of killing gays in Uganda. that goes past simple religious freedom, rising to the level of IMHO almost an accessory to murder. Saying he gave a modest sum of money to an organization that does a million things INCLUDING arguing against the uganda bill in its current format isnt quite a “smoking gun”

  192. Avatar of David Robertson
    David Robertson

    OK, first of all people, what needs to be answered is the “Why buy gas if you want to stand up for gay rights so much”. Um, we buy gas because we need it to go places. Not everyone has a car BTW. But obviously, we all have rode in the car’s of others. Transportation is a means of survival in society. With that being said, the biggest OPEC offenders are not and should not be supported, at least by me and MILLIONS of others who are knowledgeable on the issue.

    The best way to handle a situation such as that is by contacting our FOREIGN AFFAIRS council and bringing attention to the injustices brought fourth against gays in the Middle East. Which is exactly what is happening. Not buying gas from Exxon, which BTW is another homophobic company that most gays will not visit, will not change matters in the Middle East. Not buying gas does not make a point because ultimately, we’re living in the United States. We cannot directly influence culture overseas by not buying gas.

    We CAN however directly influence culture in this country by not supporting individual companies that are anti-gay. Which is what is happening here. INDIVIDUAL COMPANIES are what is the focus. INDIVIDUAL LEGISLATORS are the focus. INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATIONS are the focus. If you are doing harm against the gay community, you should not be supported. End of. There are no two sides to that. Free speech works both ways, and at the end of the day, one can support free speech and also NOT support that speech. Criticism of bigotry is not stifling free speech.

    Being anti-gay is wrong. That’s what some of you don’t seem to realize. It’s not an “opinion”. It’s a belief system that gays are inferior. It’s a belief system that homosexuality is deviant and perverted. It’s a belief system that LGBT citizens shouldn’t have certain rights. It’s WRONG to think these things and it is TOTALLY just and even appropriate to speak out against such negative things being said against a community that does nothing to warrant such condemnation.

  193. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    Sorry Erica but CFA gives to Exodus which tries to make gay people straight and iot was exodus members who talked to Ugandas about Gays agenda and the Kill Gay Bill was born from that.

    I think CFA may be ignorant, hateful but not stupid. They know what exodous does when they gave the money.

    CFA gives 1.9 Mil to gay hate groups. I dont care if one gets a mil and one gets 2 K its still used to promote their hate of gays

  194. Avatar of David Robertson
    David Robertson

    Religion does not justify being anti-gay! Why do people continue to blur the lines of this issue! No-one would EVER justify racism, sexism, nativism, anti-semitism with religion, so why is it when it comes to homophobia, it becomes suddenly OK to be anti-gay because it’s an “opinion” and “faith”. It is WRONG. Being anti-gay is WRONG.

    Also, people need to stop believing the lies that CFA is not actually giving money to anti-gay organizations. First of all, no-one knows the true number of donations CFA is giving to these anti-gay organizations. Secondly, organizations such as Marriage & Family Foundation and Exodus are anti-gay organizations. Marriage and Family is an OFFSHOOT ORGANIZATION of National Organization of Marriage, which is a certifiable anti-gay hate group. So let’s stop the buck there. These are blatant hate groups. Giving one dime to these groups is wrong. One dime to an anti-gay organization is one dime to organizations who seek to destroy the gay community.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/08/03/the-christian-rights-anti-sex-campaign-in-africa/

    People need to read this article. The National Organization of Marriage has a plan to literally destroy the gay community in Africa and the United States. Family Research Council’s goal is to “promote and protect” the traditional family unit. Their president is Tony Perkins who has said SPECIFICALLY the biggest threat to America is the homosexual agenda. The Family Research Council has taken their hate to Africa and helped to draft the Ugandan anti-homosexuality bill.

    No-one should have to justify why one shouldn’t eat at Chick-fil-A, though. Anyone with principle should have the common sense not to eat there. I can’t believe anyone would defend this company in this day and age. It’s actually heartbreaking and completely disgusting to watch.

  195. Avatar of David Robertson
    David Robertson

    http://www.ontopmag.com/article.aspx?id=12595&MediaType=1&Category=26

    Former GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain has said that Chick-Fil-A CEO Dan Cathy confided to him that the company earned $30 million on Appreciation Day and said that he would donate that money to “the charitable organizations they support.”

    In a Fox News appearance, Cain claimed that gay rights supporters are protesting Chick-Fil-A’s opposition to gay marriage to gain attention.
    “This is simply an attempt on the part of the gay community to try to leverage their beliefs on another institution, a private company, since they can’t seem to get enough attention. That is what this is about,” said Cain, a onetime GOP presidential frontrunner.

    Wednesday’s Chick-Fil-A Appreciation Day called on conservatives to patronize the eateries to support Cathy, who created a firestorm of protest when he said that gay marriage is “inviting God’s judgment on our nation.”

    “Dan’s sales were in excess of $30 million on that day, which is almost twice his previous high,” Cain said. “They are going to take a lot the excess profit they got on that day and contribute it to the charitable organizations they support in even bigger numbers.” (The video is embedded in the right panel of this page. Visit our video library for more videos.)

    According to EqualityMatters.org, Chick-Fil-A’s charitable arm, The WinShape Foundation, gave nearly $2 million to anti-gay groups in 2010, more than any other year for which public records are available.

    ————————————————————————-

    So actually what is going on is now Dan Cathy, and the social conservatives, are now ratcheting up the hate. Dan Cathy is now going to spend millions more in funding the hate groups he supports. He’s taking the money gained on Wednesday during the appreciation of homophobia day, and throwing it in the gay communities’ face.

    We’ll see how people defend that. That’s flat out being crass and divisive. Basically saying “Na Na Na Na Queers!!!!”

    These people are very, very anti-gay. And that is NOT OK and it will NOT be OK, no matter how anyone tries to spin it.

  196. Avatar of felicity
    felicity

    Whoa. Absolutely stunned by the level of name-calling and toxicity in these comments. I could only read about three pages before having to stop.

    It’s shocking that we (society) can’t have any sort of calm, rational discussion about a hot-button topic like this one. All I’m seeing in the comments are words like “bigot,” “hater,” and “zealot,” in reference to Melissa Reeves’ tweet. If you disagree with her? Fine. If you want to boycott all her scenes? Absolutely fine. That’s absolutely your right to. But it’s beyond common decency to call her names and act as though you know her thoughts.

    I don’t care how passionate a person is about this issue — name-calling and death threats should NEVER be tolerated. In fact, aren’t these bullying tactics EXACTLY what some of you are asking people to avoid, with the gay community??

    Missy Reeves is a human being. And look at how people are demonizing her — a human being — while demanding “basic human rights” and “tolerance” for other people. That seems incredibly ironic.

  197. Avatar of TomZulawski
    TomZulawski

    Ironic, No! She knew exactly whats she was doing when she sent out her tweet, wink. Now that she is taking fire for her comment, she can take what she dished out. Her comment came from a place of pushing her bible thumping agenda over the basic rights of millions of people. David Robertson summed it up perfectly, now that the heat is turned up, she will have to take it. I do not in any way support death threats nor do I think she should be fired, but she deserves the “free speech” coming her way.

  198. Avatar of David Robertson
    David Robertson

    [quote=felicity]Whoa. Absolutely stunned by the level of name-calling and toxicity in these comments. I could only read about three pages before having to stop.
    It’s shocking that we (society) can’t have any sort of calm, rational discussion about a hot-button topic like this one. All I’m seeing in the comments are words like “bigot,” “hater,” and “zealot,” in reference to Melissa Reeves’ tweet. If you disagree with her? Fine. If you want to boycott all her scenes? Absolutely fine. That’s absolutely your right to. But it’s beyond common decency to call her names and act as though you know her thoughts.
    I don’t care how passionate a person is about this issue — name-calling and death threats should NEVER be tolerated. In fact, aren’t these bullying tactics EXACTLY what some of you are asking people to avoid, with the gay community??
    Missy Reeves is a human being. And look at how people are demonizing her — a human being — while demanding “basic human rights” and “tolerance” for other people. That seems incredibly ironic.[/quote] No-one is asking for tolerance. Tolerance is fake. As for Melissa, she is seemingly against the basic human rights of the gay community, so she’s basically lost whatever position she would otherwise have on not wanting criticism for her tweet. She has failed to clarify her tweet and has blocked anyone from responding to her. She blocked people who simply wanted to ask her of her view on homosexuality. And she supports conservative Christian politics, which we all know is by and large very homophobic. She threw herself out there unnecessarily and now she’s gonna have to deal with the backlash.

    There is no discussion needed on this issue. You are either in support of the gay community or you are not.

    With all of this said, I do agree that some OTT name calling and death threats are wrong. However, bigot is not an insult, it’s a representation of what a person displays themselves as being. Same with hater.

  199. Avatar of David Robertson
    David Robertson

    [quote=TomZulawski]David Robertson, thank you for your posts.[/quote]
    Thank you for the commending, Tom, and thank you for your posts as well, you’re doing a great job exposing the BS of the anti-gay defenders.

  200. Avatar of Dyllan
    Dyllan

    [quote]Being anti-gay is wrong.[/quote]
    Agreed! And NO one in this thread is defending anti-gay views. You have a legal right to be a bigot.

    And Mr. Cathy has not stated he supported the killing of gays.

  201. Avatar of David Robertson
    David Robertson

    [quote=Dyllan][quote]Being anti-gay is wrong.[/quote]
    Agreed! And NO one in this thread is defending anti-gay views. You have a legal right to be a bigot.
    And Mr. Cathy has not stated he supported the killing of gays.[/quote]
    No-one said Mr. Cathy had no right to be a bigot, just that his bigotry should not be supported.

    Also, the allocation of finances to groups Dan Cathy has supported and continues to support are enough of a statement on what he thinks regarding the gay communities’ place in society, here and abroad.

  202. Avatar of Dyllan
    Dyllan

    ^Yes, but the controversy is that certain politicians were threatening to prevent him from receiving a business permit. So you are going to punish a man for what he thinks? It sounds fascist.

  203. Avatar of Dyllan
    Dyllan

    ^Yeah that’s great that they speak out against bigotry, but implying you will deny a business permit is Fascist and very Lenin. No one is against politicians speaking out and voicing their outrage, but you cannot go around shutting down businesses because you hate their thoughts or beliefs.

  204. Avatar of Dyllan
    Dyllan

    ^Yeah, and chick-fil-a has done nothing to promote danger. When individuals start to make things up that look desperate, it makes Mr. Cathy looks good and that’s not an easy task.

  205. Avatar of Nikiii
    Nikiii

    Melissa Reeves cheated on her husband with her co-star and had to leave DOOL because of the whole scandal in the ’90′s. It always seems to be the people who stray from their own heterosexual relationships/marriages that are the most anti-gay and outspoken in the name of God. Bunch of hypocrites. It’s not about freedom of speech, it’s about oppression of a large group of society.

  206. Avatar of hey mon
    hey mon

    Way too divisive, but I’m in it too deep now to stop.

    It seems to me that lesbians want to get married, so maybe they should be allowed. But I really have a hard time believing that there very many men who want to be in a mongamous marriage to another man. I am talking about exclusive marriage to another man. Men have a hard enough time staying true to a woman, and women want exclusivity. But 2 men, I find it hard to imagine 2 men living mongamously.

    So lets be ultra-honest here. How many posters here really want complete exclusivity?

    As for me, I have been in a exclusive marriage for almost 25 years. I may look and talk dirt talk about Eileen D and other women, but I like being married.

    But every gay male I know, from my 30-yr old secretary to my 55 yr old neighbor, they are not anything resembling exclusive. So I would like to hear some honesty.

  207. Avatar of Katheryn71
    Katheryn71

    [quote=hey mon]Way too divisive, but I’m in it too deep now to stop.

    It seems to me that lesbians want to get married, so maybe they should be allowed. But I really have a hard time believing that there very many men who want to be in a mongamous marriage to another man. I am talking about exclusive marriage to another man. Men have a hard enough time staying true to a woman, and women want exclusivity. But 2 men, I find it hard to imagine 2 men living mongamously.

    So lets be ultra-honest here. How many posters here really want complete exclusivity?

    As for me, I have been in a exclusive marriage for almost 25 years. I may look and talk dirt talk about Eileen D and other women, but I like being married.

    But every gay male I know, from my 30-yr old secretary to my 55 yr old neighbor, they are not anything resembling exclusive. So I would like to hear some honesty.[/quote]


    Generalize much? Are you really, seriously asking this question? Some men have babies with five different women and don’t marry any of them. Should I then question if the entire male population should have a right to get married based on the acts of some?

  208. Avatar of JasamForever
    JasamForever

    thebookerman wrote:
    And millions of gay people in the US buy gas, gas that comes from oil from Middle East countries that stone, torture and murder gays.Do you understand why you’re all idiots now?

    I was not going to post anything in regards to this matter however when the Middle East’s religious beliefs system was brought into the conversation I had to make a comment.

    The belief system in the Middle East, is based on Shari’a Law, which is Islamic Law. Since the majority of the population in the Middle East is Muslim, then how the countries are regulated is their business. If someone has a certain belief system, then respect that. You may not understand why we women wear hijab’s covering our hair, but you don’t have to. In Islam, homosexuality is viewed a certain way. That is our religious belief system and you cannot force your views on us especially in the Middle East, just as we can’t force our views on you, in the United States.

    While open dialogue is good, I have read some horrendous comments on this board. I am not even sure why oil in the middle east was brought into the conversation. How many products are imported into the United States again on a yearly basis? But if you as a consumer finds a company does not respect your viewpoints, then as Americans you have every right to boycott, but let us be respectful. Race, religion, and sexuality, are three very different things.

  209. Avatar of rjm118
    rjm118

    This hag needs to put some $$ into botox, not fried chicken.

    She is a horrible actress and apparantly an even worse human being!

    Choke on your chicken biatch!

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    Crystal_Ann

    I have nothing against her defending Chick-fil-A but using the free speech card is ridicious considering that it only protects people from prosecution from the government, it does not protect them from other consequences (if it did, people wouldn’t lose their jobs for making offensive comments). People who like to throw around free speech need to learn what it really means.

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    dktumlinson

    That is her right and yours, and its mine to agree with her. A company, a person, has a right to their beliefs and values and if you don’t agree, do your thing, but I respect their right to have their beliefs and values and I feel they are brave to stand up for them, today, when most people go with the flow, when they don’t believe in most of what people are trying to shove down our throats.

    The problem is, certain groups want their rights, but in reality they want to push them down others throats, and really don’t want anyone but themselves and their groups to have right, values or opinions, and if you disagree with them, they try and tear your apart or ruin you. Some equal rights. It’s either their way or no way. Well, guess what, they can stuff it, as for as I am concerned.

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    kelley850

    A company or person does not have the right to discriminate. Having beliefs are fine if you keep them to yourself. Once you make hateful, discriminatory public remarks, you open yourself up to scorn. You may not be arrested for what you say, but you can certainly get fired and have your reputation destroyed.

    Melissa Reeves is a phony. She is NOT a Christian. Christians believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ, which can be found in the Four Gospels, not the Old Testament. The Reeves’ do not believe in any of Jesus’ teachings, so they have no right to call themselves Christians.

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