General Hospital’s Brandon Barash Goes IN on Chick-fil-A!





While some soap stars were exercising their rights to free speech, by tweeting support for bigotry, others were coming down on the side of basic human and civil rights. Here's what General Hospital's Brandon Barash (Johnny) tweeted about Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day:



 


Just when I thought I couldn't be a bigger fan of this guy…

96 Responses

  1. Profile photo of cgoff
    cgoff

    opinions are like assholes we each have one

    just because someone is on a tv show, a movie star, a sportscaster, a blogger, a politian or the president of the United States, their opinion is not any more right then mine!

    too bad we are not allowed to each have our own OPINION and not get cruxified for it or put on pedestal because you agree with it!

    JMO!

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    soapjunkie88

    In times like this where we have people like Melissa Reeves who support Chick-fli-A, I think it’s great that Brandon Barash is voicing his disapproval.

    And Reeves’ support is NOT about free speech or her simple right to not support gay-marriage. Chick-fli-A keeps organizations alive that want to do way more to people than ban gay-marriage.

    Sadly most don’t get this. And try talk about the definition of marriage, free speech and a gay lobby. SAD!

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    marknsprmo

    Seriously I can not believe that Chick fil A is an issue. Ok this company is run by and was created by a bunch of conservative christians. They are not gonna stop believing what they believe anytime soon. The public has known of their proclivities the whole time. It has not been a secret. Going after them will only make a martyr of them. It is not useful. People will or won’t shop at Chick fil A. A chicken sandwhich is not a political tool. And this company is hardly the only one who does not recognize same sex partners. Ya wanna go after someone? Go after the church of jesus christ of latter day saints. Go after Baptist Bible Fellowship. Go after the National Republican Party. Those companies are targetting gay issues and pumping seriously large amounts of money into trying to keep pro gay laws off the books. As far as I know, chick fil a just makes chicken sandwhichs…..

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    cgoff

    [quote=SoapArmageddon][quote=cgoff]opinions are like assholes we each have one..quote]

    But not all of us ARE one![/quote]

    again, that is a matter of OPINION!

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    Plum

    [quote=No Daisy]That’s going to make for an uncomforatable ride on the Port Chuck tour bus.[/quote]

    That was my first thought as well!

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    harlee490

    :)marknsprmo…Here Here…ITA…go after the organizations & companies that are pumping big bucks for pushing prejudice and discrimation issues against LBGT people. People of open mindness rather race, creed, color being straight or gay can excerise their buying power and stopping buying Chick-fil-A products. This will all die down and later then sooner could then feel the sting. There’s plenty of good, long fight ahead that needs our voice towards any organization needing our focus for change! :O

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    bishbay

    cgoff, there are plenty of fundy-friendly soapboards–go complain about how terrible liberals are at one of those. You’re verging on trolling at this point. And worst of all, you’re a boring troll.

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    blssdmmm1

    Why are only the “offended” allowed their opinions?I say speak your mind,whether you believe homeosexuality is right or wrong or whatever,we live in a country that says we should be able to speak our minds.I could not go to Chic Fil A if I wanted,there is not one here.So I could care less either way,but I applaud Mr. Cathy for speaking his mind(whether he is right or wrong is irrelevant) and standing behind his convictions.He has a right to his beliefs just as much as any of us.Mr. Barash is welcome to his opinion as well,as someone else said opinions are like #($holes,everybody has one.

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    nysam

    Bishbay, leave cgoff alone. Just because he/she has a different perspective doesn’t mean he/she can’t express it. It irks me that when someone has a differing opinions on boards they quickly get labeled a troll. It is so immature to resort to name calling. For the record, I’m a gay man and I love my chick fil A. It’s yummy.

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    bishbay

    nysam, literally every statement in your post is annoying and wrongheaded. I am labeling cgoff a troll not because he disagrees, but because he just wants to argue and rile people up without any possibility of constructive dialogue. As for your final two sentences, I really hope you get help. You clearly hate yourself, or love fast food more than your own dignity.

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    soapjunkie88

    [quote=nysam]For the record, I’m a gay man and I love my chick fil A. It’s yummy.[/quote]
    You know that they finance groups that rather would see you dead, right!? But as long as your chicken is okay I guess your world is alright… -.-

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    hatinliasonisahobby

    WOW so Brandon name calls and is nasty and he is loved, Melissa just says yeah for free speech and does not insult anyone and she is bashed. Does anyone else NOT see how wrong that is?

    Why is it ok to HATE on people who think differently and praise people who encourage hate, WHICH is what people are allegedly mad at Chick Fil A for doing in the first place.

    OH the irony people are ticked at CFA for encouraging hate meanwhile every forum out there that is against them are encouraging people to boycott, insult or hate on CFA.

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    hatinliasonisahobby

    [quote=soapjunkie88][quote=nysam]For the record, I’m a gay man and I love my chick fil A. It’s yummy.[/quote]
    You know that they finance groups that rather would see you dead, right!? But as long as your chicken is okay I guess your world is alright… -.-[/quote]

    OR maybe he is just a good guy who has a live and let live policy and chooses not to be full of hate for people who think differently than him. UNBELIEVABLE now its ok to insult the gay guy for NOT hating CFA?

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    Cornfed

    [quote=cgoff]opinions are like assholes we each have one

    just because someone is on a tv show, a movie star, a sportscaster, a blogger, a politian or the president of the United States, their opinion is not any more right then mine!

    too bad we are not allowed to each have our own OPINION and not get cruxified for it or put on pedestal because you agree with it!

    JMO![/quote]

    Listen, being a fan of DOOL since I was in high school, I don’t expect A-N-Y-O-N-E to understand how hurt I was to see that Melissa Reeves felt the need to throw her bigoted opinions out into the Twitter universe. I would just rather she kept them to herself. JMO!

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    samanthadelayed

    I have come to the realization that there is no point in arguing with people who say “I don’t hate gay people, but I think marriage should be between a man and a woman.” At this point in their very ignorant position they cannot be reasoned with. If they don’t want to allow the LGBT community the right to marry then they are homophobic, just as surely as the people who didn’t want blacks to marry whites were racists.

    Loving Brandon a lot this morning…

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    soapjunkie88

    [quote=hatinliasonisahobby][quote=soapjunkie88][quote=nysam]For the record, I’m a gay man and I love my chick fil A. It’s yummy.[/quote]
    You know that they finance groups that rather would see you dead, right!? But as long as your chicken is okay I guess your world is alright… -.-[/quote]
    OR maybe he is just a good guy who has a live and let live policy and chooses not to be full of hate for people who think differently than him. UNBELIEVABLE now its ok to insult the gay guy for NOT hating CFA?[/quote]

    I did not know that I insulted anyone. I only pointed out that he is eating in a fast food restaurant that supports groups that rather see him dead.
    Why do some people don’t understand that those people are just not telling us their opinion???? They actively go against human beings – want to put them in prison, want to see them dead.

    Some people should look up who Chick-fli-A is supporting. Who they are financing. What groups they are keeping alive.

    If you are against gay marriage. So be it! Chose your group and support them. But Chick-fli-A is doing more than that! Either some really do not get it or they do and just are okay with it.

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    js3557

    Take the comments of the CEO and take out gay marriage and replace it with biracial marriage. Who here would not be offended by and criticize a man who was against a white person marrying a black person? We would call that man a hateful, ignorant racist, and we would be correct. So, when he says that he does not believe that gay Americans should be able to get married and actively funds and supports groups and movements working to stifle the civil rights of gay Americans, I see nothing wrong on calling him out on his bigotry. You can hate other races, you can hate gay people, you can hate people of different religions, but expressing your opinion is completely different from taking that next step to actively working to restrict the civil rights of those people you do not like or approve of. You have the right to hate me for any reason or no reason at all, but you never have the right to treat me as a lower class of American because there should never be such a thing.

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    rapid_roman61

    It’s too bad Brandon Barash couldn’t simply say he disagrees with that company’s viewpoints and doesn’t like their food without being insulting.

    I agree with his stance, but at least Melissa whatserface was more civil when she stated hers.

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    LizM

    Soapjunkie88 – what groups exactly is Chick-Fil-A financing that would like to see homosexuals dead? And do you mean the Cathy family as individuals or the corporation, which by the way is privately held so I’m not sure how you might have seen their books? Please back up your statements with facts.

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    soapjunkie88

    [quote=LizM]Soapjunkie88 – what groups exactly is Chick-Fil-A financing that would like to see homosexuals dead? And do you mean the Cathy family as individuals or the corporation, which by the way is privately held so I’m not sure how you might have seen their books? Please back up your statements with facts.[/quote]
    You should click the link “JASAMMABBY” already posted (http://www.owldolatrous.com/?p=288). After that you just have to do some research online about the organizations and Chick-fil-A’s involvement. You’ll find several sources to back what I said and what again is written on Owldolatrous.

    Most interesting point:
    [quote]Two organizations that work very hard to maintain this status quo and roll back any protections that we may have are the Family Research Council and the Marriage & Family Foundation. For example, the Family Research council leadership has officially stated that same-gender-loving behavior should be criminalized in this country. They draw their pay, in part, from the donations of companies like Chick-Fil-A. Both groups have also done “missionary” work abroad that served to strengthen and promote criminalization of same-sex relations.
    – Chick-Fil-A has given roughly $5M to these organizations to support their work.
    – Chick-Fil-A’s money comes from the profits they make when you purchase their products.[/quote]

    As I said, you can back it up. It’s online. News programs reported on that.

    Chick-fil-A has reportedly founded the campaign for the WinShape Foundation for Uganda’s “Kill The Gays” bill. You can find it online as well. Backed up with several sources.

    And I don’t have to see the books of the Chick-fil-A company. They put it out there themselves. They reach for support in what they are financing.

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    Bellajewels

    So the reality is this…and don’t attack me…when MR comes out and says that she supports free speech she’s maligned because it’s not the opinion that people want to hear. And BB comes out and says that he’s against Chick-Fil-A and people want to praise him because it’s the opinion that people want to hear. I’ve got a real simple solution. When election time comes go vote. Go vote for someone who shares your views. Because that’s the only way that your opinion matters. And whichever way it comes out deal with it because that’s how the majority of people feel. When people come on here and get all kinds of nasty with each other, on both sides of the argument, it doesn’t do anything to change the other sides minds. I’m not sharing my personal beliefs on anything, it’s none of anyone’s business, but I will say that when I see people saying that to not believe in gay marriage is the same thing as being a bigot I feel like that person is judging just as much as the person who doesn’t agree with gay marriage. The favorite quote is judge not lest ye be judged or do unto others as you would have others do unto you. But judging someone for holding views that are different than yours is still judgement. And calling someone names for the views that they hold because you’ve been called names all your life because of your sexual orientation does nothing. All my gay friends know where I stand on things. I don’t have to lie to them because they’re tolerant enough to understand that I’m not out there keeping them from getting married. There are bigger issues for me to be concerned about, like where my next meal is coming from or if I’m going to have a job next week. I’ll leave the gay marriage issue to people who have a dog in the fight. But the people that think I need to believe the same thing as them, without listening to me with the same open mind that I’m expected to have, really make me nuts.

    As an aside I’ve always really enjoyed visiting daytime confidential but to attack one actress for voicing her opinions while praising an actor for voicing his is something I expect to see on a personal blog, not on a professional website. They should stick to soaps, and leave the political stuff out of it.

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    TomZulawski

    Jasmabby, thank you for the article, it breaks it down and Sums it up perfectly. After reading the article I realize why I fought so hard to be heard, so I could let people know just what their silence and acceptance is doing to a whole group of people.

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    david46208

    @everyone: I’m really ashamed at the display of the hypocritical nature of many posters from yesterday and today. The way in-which Melissa Reeves was attacked by people hiding behind a computer screen was ill-reprehensible. And I can see it happening today.

    When you like their opinion you wish they would get more airtime or somehow their beauty is that much better. Shallow you are!

    Yet when someone who in this case did nothing more than mention her support of free speech, she became everything negative under the sun. And some of you wanted to start deconstructing her beauty and acting talent (which previously you had no problem with either).

    So i’m very disappointed in the nature of this.

    On the other hand (and i’m willing to touch a nerve here) I’m black. I support the rights of gay and lesbian people. I agree that most people are born gay.

    Yet, being black is not something I have to come into or discover that I am somehow different from other people. I don’t have to “come out” about being black. I can’t hide being black or wait for the appropriate time to tell people. Being black is something that is pinned to me from birth. And whatever discrimination I have or will receive as an account from being black started from the moment I was born.

    So let’s be honest there is a difference there.

    And I want to add one more thing to the mix. I live the Bay Area of CA. And in SF there was this big news story several years ago about a white gay male, who owned 3 nightclubs in the mostly Gay Castro district of the city. Now this guy did not like black people and used his power to remove or exclude blacks who were gay from entering his club or having them thrown out for no reason at all as some of his ways of enacting his hatred.

    In fact a lot the black people I know who are gay talk about extreme racism within the gay community. And a little research shows that black gays and lesbians are considered or many feel as they are seen on bottom of the social latter in that community.

    I also saw that when Prop 8 passed in CA, when I was leaving work in the city I was referred to a N—-r from white gay males and some lesbian females who were outraged. Given the fact that a majority African Americans voted in favor of it (although blacks didn’t make up a large enough voting bloc to have any dent in what the outcome was).

    So all of this makes me extra conscious as to the way people act toward others when there is a conflict of opinions.

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    appleridge

    This is not about the marriage issue. This about CFA helping to fund groups that want to FIX, TORTURE & KILL all GLBT people. That is the ISSUE!!!!!

    This is not about FOS its about Human rights and no Human should support a company that helps others in their quest to Kill groups of people for being just who they are

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    JASAMMABBY

    First let me say again and don’t get angry with me- do to a very religous upbringing it is in my gut to say marriage is between a man and a women. Secondly I believe that that guy does have the right to put his money where he wants to.. However while I may believe these things more than that I know that I have no right to judge how others choose to live their lives. It is not my place to impose my morals on them and take away their civil rights. I also don’t believe that gay marriage is something to be voted on by the people. Civil rights are just that- rights. What this organization reminds me of is that old saying “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing”. The biggest problem with them is not even what may be going on in our own country but what hate they are spreading in other countries. Like I said I may not agree with gay marriage but I sure as hell don’t believe in taking away anyones civil rights.

    http://www.owldolatrous.com/?p=288

    Again if you have the time read this- it is very worth it. Also gives you a glimpse into how gay people are treated in other States here. It really isn’t a blck and white issue..

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    rlshel1015

    nysam i don’t see how you are gay and support a company that actively gives money to organizations that make you less than what you are – a person. i guess that you’re also a republican. herein lies the difference, CFA is more than welcome to say that they don’t agree with gay marriage – that’s an opinion. but when you use the money that you make (including yours) to push through legistation in Uganda to pass a bill to make it legal to kill you for being gay or an organization that wants to exile all gays that makes it wrong. i applaud BB for his words because he realizes the difference and MR does not. enjoy your CFA nysam, then enjoy it when you have no rights because you supported them. and i agree, cgoff, you don’t get it either.

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    No Daisy

    quote=Bellajewels]
    As an aside I’ve always really enjoyed visiting daytime confidential but to attack one actress for voicing her opinions while praising an actor for voicing his is something I expect to see on a personal blog, not on a professional website. They should stick to soaps, and leave the political stuff out of it.[/quote]

    I actually find this debate on DC very interesting. You could have this same debate on any pro or anti blog or website and not get the mix of viewpoints or opinions. When DC opened this door, the only thing we all have in common is that we are soap fans. There is a chance here to open minds just a crack because DC has a very wide open range of readers. Not that I expect anyone would reconsider their POV based on what they’ve read here, but I can always hope. Enlightenment is possible only for people with open minds.

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    appleridge

    [quote=david46208]@rlshel1015: That’s like saying someone can’t be black and a Republican. What does one’s race or sexuality have to do with it?[/quote]

    Its an issue cause CFA gives money to groups that want to exile & Kill gays. Im sorry but if your gay, hell if your straight,, hell regardless of sexuality, you should be apaild by that and not want to give CFA your money

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    david46208

    @rlshel1015: That’s like saying someone can’t be black and a Republican. What does one’s sexuality have to do with it? As far as I know all gay people don’t think alike. If you are suppose to be about freedom and liberty. Then it shouldn’t be a shock to you that one gay or straight or in-between can be in support of freedom of speech.

    What I see a lot of people doing here is trying to tie in more to it than it is.

    I my support everyone’s freedom of speech. And just because those you know are gay here support the freedom of speech does not mean they support everything a business backs or their point of view.

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    david46208

    @appleridge: I know the issue. Still this does not mean that someone gay person agrees with the herd. I’m black and I don’t follow the herd of black people. Just because most blacks are upset at something does not mean I have to be. It is like some people tell people “how they are supposed to feel” or “how they are supposed to react” or be admonished for not falling in line with the herd.

    What is freedom for then? Is freedom only allowed with you agree or when others agree with you or is it that even when you don’t agree, everyone has a right to their point of view. Even people within a given community.

    In every community I have come to learn that there is this unofficial “ruling class” who tries to pontificate on how everyone should respond to and/or react to what they see as a grievance.

    What I think some people get tired of is being told “how they are suppose to respond” or “feel about something.” Or else their race, gender or sexuality be questioned.

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    appleridge

    [quote=david46208]@appleridge: I know the issue. Still this does not mean that someone gay person agrees with the herd. I’m black and I don’t follow the herd of black people. Just because most blacks are upset at something does not mean I have to be. It is like some people tell people “how they are supposed to feel” or “how they are supposed to react” or be admonished for not falling in line with the herd.

    What is freedom for then? Is freedom only allowed with you agree or when others agree with you or is it that even when you don’t agree, everyone has a right to their point of view. Even people within a given community.

    In every community I have come to learn that there is this unofficial “ruling class” who tries to pontificate on how everyone should respond to and/or react to what they see as a grievance.

    What I think some people get tired of is being told “how they are suppose to respond” or “feel about something.” Or else their race, gender or sexuality be questioned.[/quote]

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    I hope this means you arent ok with groups that want you as a gay person to be fixed, tortured, exiled & killed. No offense but thats what it came across to me. Hopefully I read that WRONG. No one regardless of anything should approve of murdering groups of people for being who they are.

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    LizM

    Thank you for the link, soapjunkie88 & jasammabby. I had researched at Snopes, where I found different information and citations. http://www.snopes.com/politics/sexuality/chickfila.asp
    I see $1.74 million combined to the Marriage & Family Legacy Fund, the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, & the National Christian Foundation. It also lists $25,000 to the Family Research Council, which lobbied Congress against HR 1064 but claims that it did not support the death penalty in Uganda for homosexuality but rather wanted to change the wording that homosexuality isn’t a universal right (what?!? who could even want to make that a law?).

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    david46208

    @appleridge: I’m not gay. But I support the rights of gay people. I also support the rights of free speech. That does not mean that I have to agree with what people say when they use it or who they support. But the freedom of speech shall not be withheld.

    So let me ask you a question? Do you agree with the attacks on Melissa Reeves that extended to death threats and below the belt beauty comments?

    Do you believe that resorting to the same behavior that one seems to admonish is justified even when said woman has not mentioned her support or non-support gay marriage, only that she supports free speech?

    And what do you think that says to women? To all the female fans of soaps who post here and read these postings?

    If people can so be outraged by a woman’s support of freedom of speech to the point of attacking her beauty to the point of acting in misogynistic ways. What does that say of said posters? How does that help your cause?

    You see I think of my mother, my sister the women on job in the world… my woman. I think of Scott Reeves and Melissa Reeves.

    Some people here are focused on themselves and single group dynamics rather than looking at what they are doing. How they are contributing nothing positive to the discussion.

    And let me close on this. Soaps would not have not have been around if it were not for the women viewers. So some respect for Melissa Reeves even in the face of disagreement would have been better than what has transpired here.

    You catch more bees with honey. Not with a net.

    And the disrespect of one woman is the disrespect of all. As she did not call anyone a name or put them down.

    People should be ashamed of themselves!

    And until people open their eyes and get that point. They’ll never get it.

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    rlshel1015

    david46208 – it seems like the only pontificating going on here is by you. i did not speak out against free speech, but about giving money to a place that not only supports suppressing the rights of gays but made a statement that they are proud of it. you said that you were offended by the bad comments made about MR but do you not realize that CFA does the same thing when they make their donations. if you’re all about free speech then i don’t see how you’re offended by one group but are okay with what another group says. BTW – i am black AND gay and if a celebrity is going to twitter her opinion about something, then they are opening themselves to people not liking what they have to say and debating their statements. thus is the high price of fame.

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    david46208

    @rlshel1015: I am completely aware of what people do with their money and what that say. If you want to discuss your feelings on that feel free to do so. But people must agree to disagree respectfully. And when it comes MR don’t put words or draw a view from her mouth that she didn’t say. But the disrespect is where I took issue. That’s all I have to say on the subject.

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    Dyllan

    [quote] Chick-fli-A keeps organizations alive that want to do way more to people than ban gay-marriage. [/quote]

    That IS freedom of speech. If the owner wants to throw his money down a rat nest, he has every right to do it, IMO. Money allows the message to be delivered.

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    alstonboy4315

    I always knew there was a reason why I loved this man, aside from the fact that he’s tall, dark, handsome and has one of the best chests in daytime!!

    Chick-Fil-A hasn’t come right out and said that they don’t support gays, but they REEK of bigotry! And let’s be perfectly CLEAR: BIGOTRY tries to rob people of their basic human liberties and make them feel like second-class citizens!

    Slavery was bigotry. Homophobia is bigotry.

    And anyone who tries to hide behind the veil of “Christianity” to support their hatred doesn’t deserve the title of “Christian.”

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    TomZulawski

    So then if Mr. Cathy wanted to contribute to Al Queda then that would ok? If Mr . Cathy believed all westerners should be killed by suicide bombers, that would be ok? What if Mr. Cathy wanted to sponser islamic extremists flight schools, would that be ok? If he wants to stand in the town square and shout all Americans should die, is that ok? After all it is his money and he has freedom of speech. As far as I’m aware if he did these things he would be prosecuted.

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    alstonboy4315

    TomZulawski-

    No problem, my friend. Whenever and wherever people are trying to keep gay people down, I will be there to throw in my 2 cents! ;) ;) ;) ;)

    Homophobes, please do yourself a favor and move to Timbuktu. Oh and delete your DC accounts as well. Please. Pretty please with sugar on top?!!! :D

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    david46208

    @SoapArmageddon: Melissa Reeves is who I was talking about when it comes to disrespect. She did nothing wrong by saying she supported free speech. And that was where the disrespect came in from others. I support free speech too. Will I be attacked next?

    That is what has a lot of people upset. Melissa did nothing wrong. If people have a problem with CFA people should take it out on them. But to take it out on her? What did she say that was homophobic? She said nothing. She said she supported free speech. That is not disrespect.

    People sometimes can’t even see the forest from the fields.

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    SoapArmageddon

    The thing is, David, the people making death threats against her are extremists. Those who suddenly find her looks repugnant are fools.

    However, those/we who say she’s wrong are exercising THEIR right to Free Speech and also have the right to reasonably retaliate to what they perceive to be an attack, as long as they are not endangering her in any way. I believe that’s how a democracy is supposed to work.

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    david46208

    @SoapArmageddon: So do you disagree with the first amendment. I’m sure o you both are actually on the same side when it comes to that. But people assuming that her belief in the freedom speech means she share their view, was totally people going off the cuff. So that thanks for the clarification.

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    aveRex

    @David46208

    I agree with your sentiment regarding MR; however, there is something known as the ‘connotative meaning of words’…and…when people make statements such as what the CFA CEO has done and those who pretend to support those actions under the guise of ‘freedom of speech’, for instance, one can draw a conclusion that they (MR) are *likely* supporting the hidden messages, but do not want to be labeled. Now we have people calling her out on her response because it appears she is supporting the hidden message in Mr. Cathy’s statement.

    Everyone has a right to the freedom of speech. But it is painfully clear that everyone DOES NOT have equal rights to live and be happy without prejudice and bigotry.

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    twb6yz

    A lot of people claim allowing same sex couples to marry damages the institution of marriage. From the perspective of Melissa Reeves I would think the affair she had with a costar did more actual damage.

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    david46208

    @aveRex: One cannot assume or come to their own conclusions as to how MR feels about gay marriage. If one is trying to play detective and assume that one thus must hold the opinions of the person using their free speech by supporting free speech then we are moving back to the days of the Salem Witch Trials.

    The reality is many people reacted without thinking. People were ready to pounce without having fully thought out or reviewed the facts. They decided to run with one’s view of the tweet as fact or follow the flock and not stand apart and do some critically thinking.

    MR has nothing to do with what the head this company says or what he does with his money. So there is no excuse to make false assumptions.

    I do think some people are getting the point now.

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    Dyllan

    [quote=TomZulawski]So then if Mr. Cathy wanted to contribute to Al Queda then that would ok? If Mr . Cathy believed all westerners should be killed by suicide bombers, that would be ok? What if Mr. Cathy wanted to sponser islamic extremists flight schools, would that be ok? If he wants to stand in the town square and shout all Americans should die, is that ok? After all it is his money and he has freedom of speech. As far as I’m aware if he did these things he would be prosecuted.[/quote]

    Get ready for it. CFa is not sponsoring a terrorist group. As fucked up as the Family Research Council is they don’t advocate for the killing of civilians.

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    Bellajewels

    [quote=No Daisy]quote=Bellajewels]
    As an aside I’ve always really enjoyed visiting daytime confidential but to attack one actress for voicing her opinions while praising an actor for voicing his is something I expect to see on a personal blog, not on a professional website. They should stick to soaps, and leave the political stuff out of it.[/quote]

    I actually find this debate on DC very interesting. You could have this same debate on any pro or anti blog or website and not get the mix of viewpoints or opinions. When DC opened this door, the only thing we all have in common is that we are soap fans. There is a chance here to open minds just a crack because DC has a very wide open range of readers. Not that I expect anyone would reconsider their POV based on what they’ve read here, but I can always hope. Enlightenment is possible only for people with open minds.[/quote]

    Nobody’s mind is going to open because nobody knows how to talk to people anymore.I’ve seen judgment and name calling thrown around on both sides and what person is going to respond to that. When my friends that are gay talk to me about gay marriage and how not being allowed to marry affects them. But I disagree that marriage is a right. Marriage is a privilege. If marriage is a right than anyone of any age should be able to get married because children have rights too. Marriage is a privilege. I tend to believe that marriage in the United States that is no longer sacred, there’s no longer any sanctity in marriage and that has nothing to due with gay marriage at all. It’s due to all the divorces and adultery because “I’m not happy anymore and I have the right to be happy at every single moment in my life.” I think that all unions sanctioned by the state or government should be civil. Health coverage to the spouse, death benefits, hey even call them husband or wife. But the term shouldn’t be marriage, not for straight people and not for gay people. I believe marriage is a religious institution and therefore has nothing to do with the state. So essentially I don’t think its the gay people that should change, I think it should be the rest of us. The debate between the people on here may be interesting but DC should have kept their comments neutral, the site itself that is, because by exhibiting bias people that frequent the site may feel like they’re being judged by the site. (I work in market research and have essentially been conditioned to shut off my own personal emotions so that I can remain unbiased as I gather other peoples opinions.)

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    appleridge

    [quote=Dyllan][quote=TomZulawski]So then if Mr. Cathy wanted to contribute to Al Queda then that would ok? If Mr . Cathy believed all westerners should be killed by suicide bombers, that would be ok? What if Mr. Cathy wanted to sponser islamic extremists flight schools, would that be ok? If he wants to stand in the town square and shout all Americans should die, is that ok? After all it is his money and he has freedom of speech. As far as I’m aware if he did these things he would be prosecuted.[/quote]

    Get ready for it. CFa is not sponsoring a terrorist group. As fucked up as the Family Research Council is they don’t advocate for the killing of civilians.[/quote]
    _____________________________________________________________________________
    They back FRC which further backs UGANDAS stance that that govt should be allowed to kill all the gays

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    Bellajewels

    [quote=twb6yz]A lot of people claim allowing same sex couples to marry damages the institution of marriage. From the perspective of Melissa Reeves I would think the affair she had with a costar did more actual damage.[/quote]

    So judge not lest ye be judge just got tossed out the window right. It’s not okay to judge gay people but it’s totally okay to judge Melissa Reeves for an affair. If that happened I would imagine her and her husband have worked through the issue as they are still happily married. You have no idea what was going on in her life, you have no idea what was going on in their marriage and judging her based on that is no more acceptable than judging someone for being gay.

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    Bellajewels

    [quote=appleridge]DC is an editorial website so personal opinion of the contributors as well as the readers are more than acceptable[/quote]

    Just makes me feel a little less than welcome if I don’t share that opinion. But I guess I see your point.

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    TomZulawski

    When everyone is on equal footing, when everyone can enjoy the same rights, hopefully the healing will begin. Maybe sometime in the near future kids won’t committ suicide after enduring the constant torment of bullying when they come out. Hopefully no one will be tied to a fence and beaten to death, hopefully men and women won’t be executed in foreign lands. As long as the CFA’s of the world continue to support isolating and promoting segregation people will continue to be viewed as different and the subject of hate, all because of who they choose to love. This freedom of speech and the ability to give their money to whomever they want comes at a price, and that price is human lives.

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    david46208

    @Bellajewels: Everyone is welcome. No one should close their accounts because they have a different view on a social issue.

    But where is Agnes when you need her. She would have had this as a storyline 6 weeks after this had happened. Agnes was good at exploring each side of a debate equally and without judgement through her tales.

    Somehow I wish Lorraine would convince Ken Corday and NBC to split the town over their views on the entire issue.

    What if a restaurant owner in Salem sparked controversy by writing an op-ed piece in the Salem Spectator about his views on gay marriage and thus homosexuality and that a firestorm was started in town that split the characters in half on their views of the restaurant owners free speech and then combine sexuality within it.

    I could see Victor trying to put the restaurant owner out of business and Maggie being upset at the lengths victor would go against someone he disagreed with.

    Will and Sonny could have tension over this. It could play out like Doreen and Ruth’s story on Generations where Ruth was upset at Doreen and they debated over how to deal with racism.

    See here: http://www.sallysussmanmorina.com/generations.htm

    Even Abe and Kayla could be on different sides of the issue that would cause them to re-evaluate their potential relationship.

    Then we can learn that Roman actually does have a problem with Will being gay and a few other citizens too.

    Now could be a storyline.

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    Dyllan

    [quote]They back FRC which further backs UGANDAS stance that that govt should be allowed to kill all the gays[/quote]

    Okay, people you need to STOP getting your information from bad blogs. They do not back the Uganda’s stance on killing of gays. They were against a bill because of other riders in the bill.

    Blah…. I have to get off. This much defending of the Family Research Council is making my crappy. I just ask that you guys get your information from CREDIBLE news outlets.

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    marknsprmo

    Yesterday, I was at work (I work in retail). I was waiting on a customer that drove from another state to buy something in the dept. I work in. I was ringing them up and said something about hoping the item worked well for her since she drove all the way up to pick it up. Her response was “yeah and I had to go eat at Chick-fil-A too.” I don’t know if she had any idea that I am gay. I just wished her a nice day. I am pretty much bombarded daily with anti gay jabs as it is. Customers feel free to openly express anti gay sentiments. Yes it is bigotry. It is not religious belief that they are defending. If people were openly calling the president racial slurs and talking about how blacks ought to know their place and they don’t belong in the whitehouse except as servants, I don’t think people would be so loud in defending their first ammendment rights. But because it is ingrained in this country that it is ok to exclude gay people, it is fine also to slur them to their face. It is ok to express your anti gay sentiment. This is not about free speach. This is about human dignity and proper conduct. It is not so much as what you are free to do as to what you ought to do.
    Gay people defending themselves against the vast majority is not the same thing as the majority of people mistreating gay people.

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    appleridge

    [quote=Dyllan]Okay, people you need to STOP getting your information from bad blogs. They do not back the Uganda’s stance on killing of gays. They were against a bill because of other riders in the bill.
    Blah…. I have to get off. This much defending of the Family Research Council is making my crappy. I just ask that you guys get your information from CREDIBLE news outlets.[/quote]

    CFA does give money to various anti gay groups. Some of those groups want to “FIX” Gays. Some want gays exiled and some want Gays DEAD

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    hatinliasonisahobby

    [quote=soapjunkie88][quote=hatinliasonisahobby][quote=soapjunkie88][quote=nysam]For the record, I’m a gay man and I love my chick fil A. It’s yummy.[/quote]
    You know that they finance groups that rather would see you dead, right!? But as long as your chicken is okay I guess your world is alright… -.-[/quote]
    OR maybe he is just a good guy who has a live and let live policy and chooses not to be full of hate for people who think differently than him. UNBELIEVABLE now its ok to insult the gay guy for NOT hating CFA?[/quote]

    I did not know that I insulted anyone. I only pointed out that he is eating in a fast food restaurant that supports groups that rather see him dead.
    Why do some people don’t understand that those people are just not telling us their opinion???? They actively go against human beings – want to put them in prison, want to see them dead.

    Some people should look up who Chick-fli-A is supporting. Who they are financing. What groups they are keeping alive.

    If you are against gay marriage. So be it! Chose your group and support them. But Chick-fli-A is doing more than that! Either some really do not get it or they do and just are okay with it.[/quote]

    The smartass i guess your world is alright is a personal and insulting comment, please dont pretend it was not. If he wants to eat the chicken he has just as much right as someone does to not eat it. I do find it funny gays who choose to rise above this melodrama are being insulted and snarked at. What happened to tolerance love and peace?

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    Dyllan

    [quote=appleridge][quote=Dyllan]Okay, people you need to STOP getting your information from bad blogs. They do not back the Uganda’s stance on killing of gays. They were against a bill because of other riders in the bill.
    Blah…. I have to get off. This much defending of the Family Research Council is making my crappy. I just ask that you guys get your information from CREDIBLE news outlets.[/quote]

    CFA does give money to various anti gay groups. Some of those groups want to “FIX” Gays. Some want gays exiled and some want Gays DEAD[/quote]

    You can repeat it a thousand times, but that does not make it true. The only thing you listed which is true, is the gay rehabilitation. Which, personally, I find the notion of gay rehabilitation f*cked up, but they do not support killing or exiling of gays.

    There is NO reason to deny Chick-fil-a business permit and there is nothing wrong with people voicing outrage over that notion.

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    soapjunkie88

    [quote=hatinliasonisahobby]The smartass i guess your world is alright is a personal and insulting comment, please dont pretend it was not. If he wants to eat the chicken he has just as much right as someone does to not eat it. I do find it funny gays who choose to rise above this melodrama are being insulted and snarked at. What happened to tolerance love and peace?[/quote]

    Oh boy. Here we go.

    Please don’t twist my words around and make them something they are not. I did not insult anyone. If he wants to eat chicken in a Chick-fli-A restaurant he sure can. It’s fine with me if he can live with who these people are financing. I was just wondering about it. Not more or less. It wasn’t meant as an insult!

    And you talk about gays choosing to rise above melodrama … comments like this is what happened to tolerance, love and peace.
    I would love nothing more for the world to be than a place of tolerance, love and peace. But for that you have to respect people and stop the hate.
    Now we are the bad guys because we don’t accept that gays in this country are bashed, that teenagers commit suicide because they don’t feel accepted because of their sexual orientation and all the anti-gay comments that are made on a daily basis!?

    Then there are companies that support movement against gays. Where is the tolerance, the love??? There you have your melodrama … there is not much tolerance and love!

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    appleridge

    The Uganda Bill came out of a talk by Exodus which CFA supports. Anti groiups they support do want to exile and some do want gays dead. Sorry that is the truth.Doesnt matter its not in the US but its true & CFA’s money is part of it

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    Dyllan

    Some need to fact check their absurd claims. Exodus international went to give one of their speeches about gay conversion (again, a f*cked up practice I am not disputing) and the “gay agenda” (another dumb notion). And at that conference, a speaker spoke out in favor of the bill. Exodus international has sent letters and campaigned against the bill. CFA does not support killing gays. That’s like saying Obama is a terrorist because of Bill Ayers. I don’t think so.

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    appleridge

    Dyllan
    The fact that CFA supports exodous movement is bad enough. Do you know what repartive therapy does & how horrible it is to go thru. MR and anyone else that gives CFA money at the very least, indirectly supports these causes. That is why we are pissed. Supporting a hate group is not free speech. Its hate & should not be defended in any case

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    twb6yz

    [quote=Bellajewels][quote=twb6yz]A lot of people claim allowing same sex couples to marry damages the institution of marriage. From the perspective of Melissa Reeves I would think the affair she had with a costar did more actual damage.[/quote]

    So judge not lest ye be judge just got tossed out the window right. It’s not okay to judge gay people but it’s totally okay to judge Melissa Reeves for an affair. If that happened I would imagine her and her husband have worked through the issue as they are still happily married. You have no idea what was going on in her life, you have no idea what was going on in their marriage and judging her based on that is no more acceptable than judging someone for being gay.[/quote]

    ****
    And now you’re attempting to justify her breaking a commandment?

    Why should anyone be judged for being gay? It’s not a choice. It’s not a commandment. The same cannot be said for having an affair. No matter what her reasons were, it WAS a choice. My point is many of the people who are against gay marriage and see it as a threat to the institution of marriage (Chuck Norris, Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, John McCain) have done more actual damage to marriage in their personal actiona than this so-called threat of allowing same sex couples to marry and, as such, I don’t think we should put much faith in their views.

    I’m not judging her, I’ just not giving her viewpoint much weight due to her own actions.

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    Dyllan

    [quote]Dyllan
    The fact that CFA supports exodous movement is bad enough. Do you know what repartive therapy does & how horrible it is to go thru. MR and anyone else that gives CFA money at the very least, indirectly supports these causes. That is why we are pissed. Supporting a hate group is not free speech. Its hate & should not be defended in any case[/quote]

    Did you just read my post? I said I was against gay rehabilitation therapy.

    So now YOU get to dictate what is speech and what is not?

    HAIL CAESAR!

    Sorry, but I prefer to have my thoughts and beliefs not controlled by others. I prefer autonomy.

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    appleridge

    [quote=Dyllan]Appleridge there is no point in having any more discussions with you when you make facts and exaggerate the truth.[/quote]

    As someone who was sent to be cured from being gay (it failed) and was put thru all that crap and it was the most hurt that Ive ever been thru I take major offense that you take this as a lie. Take your HATE & GO

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    Dyllan

    Spare me the fake outrage. The grandstanding and name calling has worn thin. All you have done is inserted false talking points about CFA supporting the death of gays which there is ZERO evidence. 80% of the posts are nothing, but thoughtless and shallow platitudes.

    I never question your past, so don’t go around making these absurd and hyperbolic statements. You are just trying to get the last word.

    All this discussion has resulted is a few posters yelling “bigot” and “hate” with zero substance or depth or understanding of what those words mean. Unlike others, I refuse to see the gay community as nothing but a bunch victims who need your protection and all that has resulted in this thread is the pushing the stereotype of gay individuals as a monolithic group who must accept your narrow view of the world. That sort of thinking is why the gay community is only shown as self-righteous decorators.

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    TomZulawski

    You basically are a bully!!! You sterotype individuals, your response to Appleridge was uncalled for and harsh. Id took a very long look into your mirror and see who you are. Your words stench of hatred.

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    Dyllan

    And I will be flagging your post. Your flip, cliched locutions, braying rhetoric, and meandering incoherences do you a disservice. I take it by the response, my point has merit because there was no thoughtful response. You have done nothing, but engaged in name calling.

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    Dyllan

    Nothing I have said invoked a stereotype, in fact, I am trying to fight them because I see strength and diversity of opinion in the gay community.

    A bully is someone who calls someone an “ass” without any justification and does so because they had no way to rebut an argument and was angry. A bully is someone who resorts to name calling when they don’t get their way.

    I do not usually engage in these sort of debates, but you have made multiple rude responses and have called people names when they disagreed.

    You are right on one account. I do have hatred. Hatred for those who wish to control my or others thoughts. I have hatred for those who carelessly yell “hate” or “bigot” to end a debate (btw I support same sex marriage), which truly undermines and insults those who experience true bigotry. So yes I am “hater” if that is your definition and proud of it. No one has a right to control another person’s thought, beliefs or expressions. Life would be static if were forced to adhere to this strict point of view some are expressing.

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    appleridge

    Im done with this. Ive gone over my reasons for not liking CFA and not giving them my money. I never called MR a bigot. I am disappointed but also dont think mR is anti gay. Maybe she has no idea where CFA donates their money to.

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    spixiefan721

    I love Brandon Barash, he is so talented,and Johnny is one of my favorites on General Hospital. I admire that he speaks his mind, because I believe it comes from a place of LOVE and I respect that. At the same time… I am a Christian and I can’t say I spend a lot of time thinking about homosexuality or gay rights or anything like that… but the Chick Fill A people are living according to their beliefs, it is coming from a place of love for God and they believe, I imagine, that by supporting whatever groups they support, they are actually helping people in the End…. Brandon is also coming from a place of love, he just sees things differently. I love when people stand up for what they believe but I always hope people will try to see things from the other person’s point of view too… but it is such a hot button issue…

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