Young and Restless Star Greg Rikaart Tweets Disappointment in DAYS’ Melissa Reeves’ Support of Anti-Gay Chick-fil-A





Another daytime star has chimed in on "Chick-fil-A  Appreciation Day" and the restaurant's stance on gay marriage. The Young and the Restless' Greg Rikaart responded on Twitter to Days of Our Lives' Melissa Reeves' support of the fast food chain. Rikaart tweeted:

So far, Reeves has kept mum on Rikaart's decision to exercise his rights to free speech.

 

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  1. Profile photo of GHFan76
    GHFan76

    Good for Rikaart! The sarcasm in her tweet speaks volumes of her bigotry. Went to Chik-Fil-A and “loved every bite.” Anyone who chimes in to “support freedom of speech” is doing so b/c they support inequality, c’mon.

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    beautreal

    Greg was so great for doing this and not just in a simple stand alone tweet but directly to Missy herself. I already loved him but now on a whole other level, such a great guy !!!

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    pumpkin

    I really don’t understand why it is necessary for anyone to actually announce they are gay. It would never occur to me to make a statement that I am heterosexual. I hope down the road in society, this whole thing seems ridiculous. I thought the same for Anderson Cooper. Who cares. He is nice guy who is a workaholic. Anderson probably just wanted it off the plate so to speak.

    Just hope in society things will transition like they have for other groups.
    just sayin….

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    Robbyrob

    [quote=marieperoy]You know what Rikaart could actually do to advance gay rights and visibility? Come out already.[/quote]

    Coming out should be left to the individual. Unless you are in his/her place, you don’t know why they are silent. Sure, it would help in visibility but people are just living their lives, just like you & me. They also have to worry about job security. Who knows, maybe certain stars are out to their cast & crew…just not to the joe schmoe’s out in the world. Also, just because someone is supporting gay rights doesn’t mean they are gay. We need just as many straight supporters as out gay ones. I speculated about Anthony Geary above but it’s his right to do whatever he wants. Look how long it took Anderson Cooper. Ellen had major backlash and was blacklisted by Hollywood for a few years. Yes, times have changed…look at how beloved Ellen is now! It’s just sad when situations like Chick Fil A come up and reactions from people take center stage. Sorry, but my opinion has changed of Melissa Reeves since her tweet and it’s very negative. I applaud Greg for tweeting his dismay also. I wonder if the Days set is up in arms now?

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    Robbyrob

    [quote=MissingtheoldGH]Good for Rikaart! The sarcasm in her tweet speaks volumes of her bigotry. Went to Chik-Fil-A and “loved every bite.” Anyone who chimes in to “support freedom of speech” is doing so b/c they support inequality, c’mon.[/quote]

    Good for Greg! I know I went crazy on her and her husbands twitter accounts. She has upset many a people let me tell you! Thank you MissingtheoldGH for noticing the heavy sarcasm in her tweet. I especially caught the ;) she used too! I think back to how much good will (sorry for the pun) Days has had with Will’s coming out and the shows outreach to the gay community. Now, I feel, this deflates some of that.

    I also think using the Freedom of Speech line is quite wrong. No one is denying anyone the right to speak. It is my right to respond to whatever someone says too. Chick Fil A just doesn’t support gay marriage, they contribute mega money to anti-gay organizations that promote bigotry all around the world, especially Africa. US evangelicals have specifically gone to Africa to get them riled up to pass laws against gays and they turn a blind eye (or openly promote) to public outing and violence.

    I know that the Reeves are uber religious but I still was upset by her stance. Why don’t they just get ordained already! My heart would hurt more if Jonathan Jackson said something to support Chick Fil A since he’s super close to Anthony Geary.

    I hope Reeves continues to get backlash. She can say it, but boy, can we respond in kind!

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    Bellajewels

    [quote=The_Moustache]i hope Melissa gets fired from DAYS for saying that.[/quote]

    This is just stupid. You want her fired because she had an opinion that you disagree with. Tolerance is tolerance. Be tolerant, that word that everyone throws around without really understanding what it means, of people that share different views than you. Even if she supported anti-gay groups with HER MONEY her employer should not fire her because of that. If she’s showing up to work on time and performing to the best of her ability than she doesn’t deserve to lose her job any more than you deserve to lose your job for being pro-marriage. Land of the free right? As in free to have her own opinions, whether you like them or not.

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    David Robertson

    I don’t want her fired on a witchhunt. I want people to email the show and email CBS that what Melissa said was deeply offensive, why it was offensive, and let them make the call, also boycott watching the show. But advocating she be fired on the spot is truly violating her free speech. Now, when the backlash against her, which there undoubtedly will be, becomes strong enough for her to lose her job, which is I’d say somewhere in the 50/50 range of likely, then that’s the accomplishment. We need to talk with our remote controls.

    And 3 claps for Greg for standing up for the fight!

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    David Robertson

    [quote=Bellajewels]This is just stupid. You want her fired because she had an opinion that you disagree with. Tolerance is tolerance. Be tolerant, that word that everyone throws around without really understanding what it means, of people that share different views than you. Even if she supported anti-gay groups with HER MONEY her employer should not fire her because of that. If she’s showing up to work on time and performing to the best of her ability than she doesn’t deserve to lose her job any more than you deserve to lose your job for being pro-marriage. Land of the free right? As in free to have her own opinions, whether you like them or not.[/quote]

    No-one has to tolerate homophobia. Homophobia is a moral choice, that many people find deeply offensive, irrational and abhorrent. Since it is a CHOICE, and since Melissa openly proclaimed a homophobic position, everyone else is entitled to make the decision whether to support her choice to be homophobic.

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    Bellajewels

    [quote=David Robertson][quote=Bellajewels]This is just stupid. You want her fired because she had an opinion that you disagree with. Tolerance is tolerance. Be tolerant, that word that everyone throws around without really understanding what it means, of people that share different views than you. Even if she supported anti-gay groups with HER MONEY her employer should not fire her because of that. If she’s showing up to work on time and performing to the best of her ability than she doesn’t deserve to lose her job any more than you deserve to lose your job for being pro-marriage. Land of the free right? As in free to have her own opinions, whether you like them or not.[/quote]

    No-one has to tolerate homophobia. Homophobia is a moral choice, that many people find deeply offensive, irrational and abhorrent. Since it is a CHOICE, and since Melissa openly proclaimed a homophobic position, everyone else is entitled to make the decision whether to support her choice to be homophobic.[/quote]

    Homophobia is a fear OF, not a disagreement WITH. Working in the entertainment industry I’m sure she’s come across plenty of gay people and I’ve not heard of one person coming out and saying “She treated me with anything less than dignity and respect.” She does not have to be riding a float in a gay pride parade. She has made one comment in a twenty some odd year career that could be indicative of that she doesn’t AGREE with gay marriage. Her tweet was about freedom of speech but it appears that is not what she was saying at all according to daytime confidential and this board. You don’t have to like her comments or agree with them. But she wasn’t homophobic. I’ve not heard of her saying anything against the gay story going on now, there was a storyline with Jack pretending to be gay back in 2003 and I didn’t hear anything about her protesting the story then. She’s made one comment, perhaps ill-advised yes, and people want her out of a job for it.

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    david46208

    @Bellajewels: There is no proof that she is even Homophobic. Just that she supports free speech.

    What has happened here and elsewhere has amounted to that childhood game of “telephone.” Where by the time the message you said gets down the line it has been changed or twisted into something else.

    So let’s stick to the facts people!

    ““It takes your enemy and your friend, working together to hurt you to the heart; the one to slander you and the other to get the news to you” — Mark Twain

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    David Robertson

    [quote=Bellajewels]Homophobia is a fear OF, not a disagreement WITH. Working in the entertainment industry I’m sure she’s come across plenty of gay people and I’ve not heard of one person coming out and saying “She treated me with anything less than dignity and respect.” She does not have to be riding a float in a gay pride parade. She has made one comment in a twenty some odd year career that could be indicative of that she doesn’t AGREE with gay marriage. Her tweet was about freedom of speech but it appears that is not what she was saying at all according to daytime confidential and this board. You don’t have to like her comments or agree with them. But she wasn’t homophobic. I’ve not heard of her saying anything against the gay story going on now, there was a storyline with Jack pretending to be gay back in 2003 and I didn’t hear anything about her protesting the story then. She’s made one comment, perhaps ill-advised yes, and people want her out of a job for it.[/quote]Homophobia=Irrational fear of, aversion towards and/or discrimination against homosexuality/homosexuals.

    There is no way to rationally disagree with someone’s orientation. Disagreeing with someone being gay is akin to disagreeing with blue eyes and green grass.

    I didn’t call Melissa homophobic. I said no-one has to tolerate homophobia. That’s a general statement made in response to something you said in your previous post. And as for Melissa, I don’t care about her beliefs. But if she is anti-gay, no-one has to support that. She doesn’t have to be accepting of the gay community or whatever her deal is, and others have the freedom to respond as they please in reaction.

    I think her comment is ignorant at best and MOST LIKELY a condescending and intentional side-swipe at those who disapprove of CFA. Knowing she works in an industry where most are not 100% straight and most that are 100% straight are very much pro-gay, there is no way in the world she is foolish enough not to know making this tweet would not cause a reaction. Which is why she is now privatizing her tweets.

    She wanted drama and attention, and she’s gotten it.

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    aremid96

    I tweeted Melissa Reeves giving her kudos for expressing her beliefs on the matter. Sadly, I got about six other tweets from people basically saying my family should be ashamed of me and that I was a hateful supremacist.

    Before you point the fingers at others, calling people names and such, you need to look at your own self in the mirror cause you just might be doing the same thing you claim to be against.

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    Bellajewels

    [quote=gato1]“loved every bite” speaks volumes.[/quote]

    Maybe it tasted good. When I eat a sandwich and it tastes good I love every bite. Just out of curiosity do you also no longer frequent McDonald’s or Wendy’s who have also expressed their support of CFA?

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    gjr1969

    I wish people would stop saying this is about free speech. If you are pro-gay marriage, you are not taking anything away from the other side, their rights remain in tact, they can marry whom they choose (of the opposite sex). But if you are anti-gay marriage, you are saying that a whole group of people deserve less rights than you do. That you can be with the person you love for 30 years and get all of the legal benefits under the law while the gay person is entitled to less rights.

    Chick-Fil-A puts it’s money where it’s mouth is. It’s money to Exodus lobbied congress to NOT protest Uganda’s proposed “kill the gays” bill. That’s right, DON’T speak out against people being killed in a different country.

    If you say you are pro or contra gun control, that is an opinion. If you say you are anti-gay marriage, you are saying part of the population deserves less rights than you do. All based on this version of the Bible which was not real. It was NOT 1 man + 1 woman, it was man + woman + slaves/concubines, women as property, arranged marriages, stonings for adultury etc. This is the “Biblical marriage” people defend.

    Sure, she can say whatever she wants. But mark my words, in another 10-20 years, speaking ill about a gay person will be like speaking ill of another minority group. I don’t want to hear someone talk about how they hate interracial marriage or disparage African Americans, Asians etc.

    Here is a response letter I wrote to the San Diego Gay and Lesbian times

    http://www.sdgln.chttp://www.sdgln.com/commentary/2012/07/31/letter-editor-straight-ally-wrong-about-chickfila-protest

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    gjr1969

    That’s not accurate. Wendy’s went after the one franchise owner and told him to take the sign down. Haven’t read anything about McD’s but I don’t eat fast food anyway.

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    gjr1969

    So just out of curiosity, if Melossa tweed blacks and whites should not be allowed to marry, would you give her kudos for that too? Or is there a line where people can expect to get disdain for what they say? If someone used the N-word or calls a woman a c#nt, they may be a great person but I will think differently about them if they say things like that.

    Her beliefs= A certain percentage of the population deserves less rights than she does based on a completely flawed version of Biblical life. Exodus also said those who work on Sunday must be killed. Missy has never, ever worked on a Sunday? Does she respect the Biblical word? Or is she a hypocrite?

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    lizzyann70

    I agree with being able to express your belief and I do find it hypocritical when the people that don’t have the same views come back at you with a vengeance bashing you for not agreeing with them! Isn’t it called an opinion I change the channel on George Lopez everytime he comes on the TV after he said F–k you republicans for not voting for Sonia Sotomayor for the Suprime Court seat!His opinion free speach my choice to change the channel! No harm done! Everyone has the right to say what they want and not be worried about loosing their job!Just change the channel!

    People are also blaming her religion. I was raise Christian Catholic and I do not judge people for their sexuality! What people do is their business nobody has the right to judge NOT even the people that don’t agree with MR
    Sorry, I might be old school but all this tweeting and putting you life out there for the world to see is nothing but trouble!!!!!!

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    Pavarti31

    I believe you’re right in that it will eventually be as evil to call gay people names as it is now to say the N word. I didn’t hear MR say call names, she just agreed with the Chick-fil-a pov, and she gets to do that. Gay people will eventually get their rights just like every other group, because it’s right. But agreeing or disagreeing and voicing it is part of our culture, and that’s the way it is. Like it or not, and that includes neo-nazis and the KKK. Anything else is facist.

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    David Robertson

    [quote=Pavarti31]I don’t agree with what she said, but I do support her right to say it. It is about free speech. It is.[/quote]
    Her situation is. The CFA situation definitely isn’t. And no-one said she didn’t have the right to say what she said.

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    David Robertson

    [quote=Pavarti31]I believe you’re right in that it will eventually be as evil to call gay people names as it is now to say the N word. I didn’t hear MR say call names, she just agreed with the Chick-fil-a pov, and she gets to do that. Gay people will eventually get their rights just like every other group, because it’s right. But agreeing or disagreeing and voicing it is part of our culture, and that’s the way it is. Like it or not, and that includes neo-nazis and the KKK. Anything else is facist.[/quote]
    You’re right about Melissa, but what she did was still IMO very devious, and very intentional. She wanted to stir the pot. Which I think is what is causing more of the backlash against her, since she’s now privatizing her tweets and deleted twitter friends. She said something she knew would cause offense and now is running in the corner and acting like she didn’t say anything.

    You’re right about the freedom of speech situation but I mean, I think you also realize that, ultimately, it’s still OK to be anti-gay in America and that’s why we are where we are with the CFA debate. It isn’t OK to be racist, sexist, nativism isn’t OK, even being Islamophobic really isn’t OK (as we saw with the Michelle Bachmann debacle). Being anti-gay still has a check from society, though. America is still a deeply homophobic nation. And that’s the tragedy that the CFA backlash and subsequent support of the company has shown us.

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    gjr1969

    Of course MR can say what she wants. But isn’t she kind of s***ing where she eats, considering that a very, very high percentage of the male demographic who watches soaps is gay? Why do you think they did the Will storyline, because obviously felt it was topical and they are putting their strongest vets (=Dee) to support it.

    People have to expect that there will be a negative reaction to what they say sometimes. If someone tweets how much they love Pat Buchanan, I”m going to stop supporting them too, because of all of the vile things he has said about Jews and African Americans.

    And again, for those who say it’s about her religion, isn’t Jesus about goodness and tolerance to your fellow man? Didn’t he accept the prostitute? Why did he say ZERO about homosexuality but NO DIVORCE. How much has Missy tweeted there should be no divorce? How many concubines does Scott Reeves have?

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    Pavarti31

    David, my initial response was to gjr1969’s remark: “I wish people would stop saying this is about free speech.”

    And no one has to justify why they say what they do. I don’t know anything about her motives, as far as I’m concerned she can assign them herself.

    Please don’t think I’m unsympathetic. As far as rights are concerned, women have had as bad a time as any gay person for just as long if not longer. I understand the fight.

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    md1347

    Good for Greg and everyone else who stands up against people/companies who fund hate groups(after all that’s what this is all about). But, frankly, I don’t believe we should “rail” against anyone. Looking just like the hateful people who hate us, doesn’t appeal to me.

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    GHFan76

    I certainly agree with Melissa Reeve’s right to say whatever she wants. But is she really all that concerned with Chik-Fil-A’s right to say what they want or does she agree with them that people should not be afforded equal rights? It doesn’t take much to read between the lines. There are easy ways to sugarcoat what she said, etc. but I’m calling her out. If she comes out in support of full equality to clear up the confusion then I’ll gladly eat crow. And even if she’s not in support of full equality I’ll continue to use my “free speech” to say I think she’s a bigot.

    My mind keeps reverting to all the young and impressionable kids out there who are gay or lesbian, hearing and seeing these headlines, but not really understanding – just knowing that people think they are inferior. This type of intolerance is how their downfall starts. They believe they’re inferior because they are young and it snowballs from there. So so very sad that we can’t practice acceptance. It’s not about free speech. It’s about equality and protecting our children from being harmed by such warped beliefs.

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    gjr1969

    To me, it’s not looking hateful. If someone wants me to give me less rights than they have, I’m going to react with anger. This isn’t some general debate about funding this or that or should people like the Bachelorette. This is about REAL PEOPLE with REAL LIVES who are impacted. If you are straight, gay people getting marriage has ZERO impact on your life. Zero. It is about protecting this abstract principle which was NOT how it was in the Bible.

    I have been with my partner for 17 years. We live in a state where gay marriage is legal. But we choose not to. Which is groovy. But it makes my blood boil when people start supporting something which will keep other people from having rights, especially when it will not affect theirs in any way.

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    blake3b

    Thank you so much Greg! Thank you for having the balls to call her out directly!

    And to the poster who said he should come out, assuming he is gay he will come out when he is ready. It’s not right to make someone come out when they are not ready.

    Because of her tweet I am no longer a fan of hers and don’t support her anymore. The people that do this have left a bad taste in my mouth.

    But I love Greg Rikaart even more! I just sent him a message on facebook thanking him!

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    Dyllan

    [quote]I wish people would stop saying this is about free speech.[/quote]
    I am getting frustrated by others claiming that they know what is inside MR’s head. She did not say she supported anti-gay views. She said she supported free speech and she has a legit reason when people make insane claims like this….

    [quote]i hope Melissa gets fired from DAYS for saying that.[/quote]

    Yes, she should be fired for supporting free speech. Sounds like a witch hunt.

    However, MR needs to clearly state her positions before she delves into controversial topics, IMO.

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    David Robertson

    [quote=Pavarti31]David, my initial response was to gjr1969’s remark: “I wish people would stop saying this is about free speech.”
    And no one has to justify why they say what they do. I don’t know anything about her motives, as far as I’m concerned she can assign them herself.
    Please don’t think I’m unsympathetic. As far as rights are concerned, women have had as bad a time as any gay person for just as long if not longer. I understand the fight.[/quote]
    I understand that you were replying to an individual poster regarding what Melissa said and I agree, this particular situation is a free speech situation. You’re also right Melissa doesn’t *have* to justify what she did, but what she did she had to have known would cause problems. The way she’s currently acting looks like she’s trying to evade any sort of culpability of what occurred, of what she said. So people are raising a eye to that. At least I am. I think it’s skeptical she just made a solitary tweet without any intention of doing anything but say she’s eating at CFA.

    But you seem like a very bright person and I never at all thought you were anti-gay. Sexism and homophobia are intertwined in some ways so I always sympathize and stand in support in regards to women’s rights. I just believe in love, respect, human decency. And the lack of that being shown towards the gay community isn’t cool to see at all. Especially for LGBT teens and children.

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    alstonboy4315

    Greg Rikaart just gained TEN TRILLION ZILLION BILLION GAZILLION more cool points in my book.

    On a sidenote, Nancy Lee Grahn seems to be in support of Melissa Reeves and her close-minded, ignorant “free speech.” I guess that gives me the perfect opportunity to unfollow Miss Grahn in the same fashion that I unfollowed Jennifer “Chicken Little” Horton.

    It seems that we have forgotten that free speech and bigotry should NOT be interchangeable.

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    alstonboy4315

    The-Moustache–

    I misspoke. Nancy didn’t side with Melissa. She tweeted that free speech and supporting hate groups are two different things, or something to that effect. But then she deleted her tweet. I guess she wants to have a PRIVATE talk with Melissa so that she can, HOPEFULLY, tell her in person what an idiot she is. I hope so because I really like Nancy Lee Grahn and want to CONTINUE to like her………..

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    alstonboy4315

    The-Moustache–

    I misspoke. Nancy didn’t side with Melissa. She tweeted that free speech and supporting hate groups are two different things, or something to that effect. But then she deleted her tweet. I guess she wants to have a PRIVATE talk with Melissa so that she can, HOPEFULLY, tell her in person what an idiot she is. I hope so because I really like Nancy Lee Grahn and want to CONTINUE to like her………..

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    Bellajewels

    [quote=The_Moustache]if that’s true about Nancy then she is TRASH.[/quote]

    So you’re just going to turn on anyone that says anything that you don’t like. Nancy is supporting her co-workers wife, not her political views. Now Nancy Lee Grahn is going to get trashed for not crapping on people that have always been good to her? Nice.

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    LACityboi

    For people supporting Chick-Fil-A, the gays are not upset about chicken or a person’s opinion. If you think a gay doesn’t know how to handle a person who doesn’t like them, then clearly you’ve never met a gay. Gays are upset about the millions of dollars that are donated to certified hate groups. One of which, the Family Research Council, wants to incarcerate and kill off innocent gay people. Chick-Fil-A gave money to them to try to start a gay holocaust. These people are sick and crazy, what would you do in their shoes?

    @alstonboy–thank God, my heart dropped when I read your first post. I adore the Davis girls, my favorite part of General Hospital, although they need Lexi back. I love Nancy, it seriously would have saddened me.

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    aremid96

    [quote=Bellajewels][quote=The_Moustache]if that’s true about Nancy then she is TRASH.[/quote]

    So you’re just going to turn on anyone that says anything that you don’t like. Nancy is supporting her co-workers wife, not her political views. Now Nancy Lee Grahn is going to get trashed for not crapping on people that have always been good to her? Nice.[/quote]

    Exactly what I was thinking – no one cares about what others think anymore – it’s you either think the way I am or you’re “TRASH” That is just SAD.

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    Yoryla

    [quote=alstonboy4315]The-Moustache–

    I misspoke. Nancy didn’t side with Melissa. She tweeted that free speech and supporting hate groups are two different things, or something to that effect. But then she deleted her tweet. I guess she wants to have a PRIVATE talk with Melissa so that she can, HOPEFULLY, tell her in person what an idiot she is. I hope so because I really like Nancy Lee Grahn and want to CONTINUE to like her………..[/quote]

    Moustache, alstonboy –

    There is now a new tweet from Nancy Lee Grahn directly to Melissa:

    “I say this lovingly. But Its not bout speech but funding hate groups”

    So no, she is not with Melissa.

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    hey mon

    This whole thing is really divisive, and a public realtions nightmare both sides. For those of us who are gay tolerant, I’m really semi-shocked at how this whole thing is ballooning. it reeks of a litmus test, and litmus testing is wrong.

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    tclaw753

    I very much agree with you in many ways but just realize that sometimes it is very necessary to be honest with loved ones for one’s own well being (celebrities aside). My brother is gay. My very close cousin is gay. I love them just the same without judgement. But sometimes, people just put their foot in their mouth for no reason. DAYS is my recreation and something I look forward to after a long day. Why we even entertain this nonsense is beyond me. To me this woman is a character on a TV show – frankly, I don’t dive a flying fig what her personal views are. Just do your job and learn how to keep quiet when it’s going to get you trouble…

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    Lonesome Rhodes

    So, where in Missy’s tweet does she say she’s anti-gay? Or against equal rights for all? Oh, that’s right, NOWHERE. The only motive her tweet gave for going to Chick-fil-A was free speech. So why are people acting like she went on some homophobic rant? I guess some people just like to play make believe.

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    days4ever

    I am glad someone said something, thanks Greg. I do feel that Melissa may not know the entire issue with C-F-A and that she is a strong Christian. I don’t wish her to get fired from Days but I think that she needs to make some formal statement on her position so she is not misunderstood.

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    curacaoman

    Off course she has freedom of speech to show the world what a bigot she is. And I have freedom of speech to express how little I think of her for being A BIGOT!

    She should quit her dying show. The Will story must be making her very sick.

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    AWfanforever

    All I know is this must be a nightmare for DOOL. They have the Will Horton coming out storyline and one of their actresses does this. I wouldn’t want to be backstage at Days right now.

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    Bellajewels

    [quote=days4ever]I am glad someone said something, thanks Greg. I do feel that Melissa may not know the entire issue with C-F-A and that she is a strong Christian. I don’t wish her to get fired from Days but I think that she needs to make some formal statement on her position so she is not misunderstood.[/quote]

    She shouldn’t have to make a formal statement to anyone. Even if she not pro-gay as people call it she doesn’t have to justify that to a single person out there.

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    TomZulawski

    [quote=Bellajewels][quote=days4ever]I am glad someone said something, thanks Greg. I do feel that Melissa may not know the entire issue with C-F-A and that she is a strong Christian. I don’t wish her to get fired from Days but I think that she needs to make some formal statement on her position so she is not misunderstood.[/quote]

    She shouldn’t have to make a formal statement to anyone. Even if she not pro-gay as people call it she doesn’t have to justify that to a single person out there.[/quote]

    You are right, she doesn’t have to clarify her position to anyone, she is clearly a bigot and will have to face the reprecaution of her words. Everyone knows what her point of view is so lets not try and dance around it. She has stated her stance toward the gay community and now the community at large can do the same in return.

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    safetchick

    [quote=The_Moustache]i hope Melissa gets fired from DAYS for saying that.[/quote]

    Ironically, that is illegal to be fired for something like that unless it is specified in her contract.

    I am not in favor of Missy’s comments at all but the world is becoming pussified with people being afraid to say how they feel, regardless of what your beliefs are. I can’t stand that shit. Say what you want to say and everyone, quit bullying the opinions that you don’t agree with.

    Makes me sick. For every person that says something stupid, there are 10 more that threaten, call names and are meaner then the original idiot said. I think the issue should be about EVERYONE stfu-ing their every thought and letting people live their lives.

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    cgoff

    so let me get this right

    if someone post an opinion that is the same as your’s – bravo! thanks for having the balls to state the RIGHT OPINION

    but

    if someone post an opinion that is not the same as your’s -boo they are scum and need to be fired and drawn and quarterd and burned at the stake!

    sorry but no actor or blogger or poster’s opinon is any more right or correct or will make me change my mind either way! MY OPINION is my OPINION, like my religous beliefs, political following or sexual preference, it is no one’s business but mine, and I do not feel the need to try to “CONVERT” anyone to my way of thinking or beliefs!

    I don’t understand why GR is being put on a pedestal for his beliefs but MR is being tied to a stake with the LGBT community ready to lite her ablaze.

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    appleridge

    Chick-Fil-A gives 1.9 mil to anti hate groups. Some of which work to use reparative therapy, while some want Gays exiled & Killed. That is the issue. MR by going to CFA and giving her money even if she is not anti gay, indirectly supports those anti gay groups and what they stand for.

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    cgoff

    [quote=TomZulawski][quote=Bellajewels][quote=days4ever]I am glad someone said something, thanks Greg. I do feel that Melissa may not know the entire issue with C-F-A and that she is a strong Christian. I don’t wish her to get fired from Days but I think that she needs to make some formal statement on her position so she is not misunderstood.[/quote]

    She shouldn’t have to make a formal statement to anyone. Even if she not pro-gay as people call it she doesn’t have to justify that to a single person out there.[/quote]

    You are right, she doesn’t have to clarify her position to anyone, she is clearly a bigot and will have to face the reprecaution of her words. Everyone knows what her point of view is so lets not try and dance around it. She has stated her stance toward the gay community and now the community at large can do the same in return.[/quote]

    can you please show us her bigoted comment? where she bashed anyone! come on please show us where she said she was against GAYS or BLACKS or HISPANICS or wait, OVER WEIGHT PEOPLE! VIETNAM VETERANS! PEOPLE WITH VITILGO! PEOPLE WITH LUPUS! how about SCIENTOLOGY! MORMANS! CATHOLICS! JEWS! BAPTISTS! LUTHERENS! PENTOCOSTALS! METHODISTS! KABALLA!

    geez people get a mirror and look in it! the only person you need an answer for or to in is that mirror!

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    TomZulawski

    She stated her opinion, which she does have every right to do and I for one am not interested in trying to change her opinion. But my opinion is that she is a bigot and anti gay according to her beliefs. So with that being said you can’t have your cake and eat it too. Now she has exposed herself to the world for who she is, now she can live with the words she tweeted.

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    cgoff

    [quote=appleridge]Chick-Fil-A gives 1.9 mil to anti hate groups. Some of which work to use reparative therapy, while some want Gays exiled & Killed. That is the issue. MR by going to CFA and giving her money even if she is not anti gay, indirectly supports those anti gay groups and what they stand for.[/quote]

    answer me one question, do you drive a car? buy groceries? go to Target, The Gap or any store to buy food, goods, TV’s cell phones,etc?

    Then you support the OPEC nations that provide GASOLINE to move product, drive car’s, fire trucks, police car’s, cabs, bus’s! Do you know what happens to anyone that is GAY in OPEC Nations? they are EXTERMINATED.

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    cgoff

    [quote=TomZulawski]She stated her opinion, which she does have every right to do and I for one am not interested in trying to change her opinion. But my opinion is that she is a bigot and anti gay according to her beliefs. So with that being said you can’t have your cake and eat it too. Now she has exposed herself to the world for who she is, now she can live with the words she tweeted.[/quote]

    she did not say a bigoted comment

    so if my grandchild who is 5 says “I don’t like rainbows” does that make her a GAY basher?

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    appleridge

    The fact is Chick-Fil-A gives comapny money which they get from consumers to Anti gay groups. Melissa was one of those consumers whose money is now being used by those groups. Even if MR is not anti gay by going to CFA she at least indirectly supports thesse anti gay groups stances and ideals. That is the issue here.

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    TomZulawski

    [quote=cgoff][quote=TomZulawski][quote=Bellajewels][quote=days4ever]I am glad someone said something, thanks Greg. I do feel that Melissa may not know the entire issue with C-F-A and that she is a strong Christian. I don’t wish her to get fired from Days but I think that she needs to make some formal statement on her position so she is not misunderstood.[/quote]

    She shouldn’t have to make a formal statement to anyone. Even if she not pro-gay as people call it she doesn’t have to justify that to a single person out there.[/quote]

    You are right, she doesn’t have to clarify her position to anyone, she is clearly a bigot and will have to face the reprecaution of her words. Everyone knows what her point of view is so lets not try and dance around it. She has stated her stance toward the gay community and now the community at large can do the same in return.[/quote]

    can you please show us her bigoted comment? where she bashed anyone! come on please show us where she said she was against GAYS or BLACKS or HISPANICS or wait, OVER WEIGHT PEOPLE! VIETNAM VETERANS! PEOPLE WITH VITILGO! PEOPLE WITH LUPUS! how about SCIENTOLOGY! MORMANS! CATHOLICS! JEWS! BAPTISTS! LUTHERENS! PENTOCOSTALS! METHODISTS! KABALLA!

    geez people get a mirror and look in it! the only person you need an answer for or to in is that mirror![/quote]

    Stop playing stupid, she tweeted on Chil Fil A appreciation day her support for the CFA agenda. She is tweeting for freedom of speech. Everyone knows what her wink was all about. Stop trying to sugar coat what the intention was.

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    appleridge

    Said before I dont drive Cgoff. I also said its only 13% of total gas that comes from OPEC. There is no way to tell which stations get their gas if there was, people would protest.
    Most people drive and so Gas is needed. Food is needed as well but no one needs to eat at CFA. There are numerous options. Where to run a gas, train, plane or bus gas is necessity.

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    cgoff

    [quote=TomZulawski][quote=cgoff][quote=TomZulawski][quote=Bellajewels][quote=days4ever]I am glad someone said something, thanks Greg. I do feel that Melissa may not know the entire issue with C-F-A and that she is a strong Christian. I don’t wish her to get fired from Days but I think that she needs to make some formal statement on her position so she is not misunderstood.[/quote]

    She shouldn’t have to make a formal statement to anyone. Even if she not pro-gay as people call it she doesn’t have to justify that to a single person out there.[/quote]

    You are right, she doesn’t have to clarify her position to anyone, she is clearly a bigot and will have to face the reprecaution of her words. Everyone knows what her point of view is so lets not try and dance around it. She has stated her stance toward the gay community and now the community at large can do the same in return.[/quote]

    can you please show us her bigoted comment? where she bashed anyone! come on please show us where she said she was against GAYS or BLACKS or HISPANICS or wait, OVER WEIGHT PEOPLE! VIETNAM VETERANS! PEOPLE WITH VITILGO! PEOPLE WITH LUPUS! how about SCIENTOLOGY! MORMANS! CATHOLICS! JEWS! BAPTISTS! LUTHERENS! PENTOCOSTALS! METHODISTS! KABALLA!

    geez people get a mirror and look in it! the only person you need an answer for or to in is that mirror![/quote]

    Stop playing stupid, she tweeted on Chil Fil A appreciation day her support for the CFA agenda. She is tweeting for freedom of speech. Everyone knows what her wink was all about. Stop trying to sugar coat what the intention was.[/quote]

    my point is, it is an OPINION, her OPINION, it is not wrong anyore then Greg’s OPINION is! why is her posting her OPINION wrong but Greg’s posting of his OPINION right?

    no sugar coating to it, this is why it is a FREEDOM OF SPEECH controversy! one person’s FREEDOM OF SPEECH is just as right as the opposing person”s FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

    BTW, I have a GAY son who is has been married to his partner for 8 years, together for 20 years, I love him as much as my sn, and they have 2 kids who I love very much!

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    cgoff

    [quote=appleridge]Said before I dont drive Cgoff. I also said its only 13% of total gas that comes from OPEC. There is no way to tell which stations get their gas if there was, people would protest.
    Most people drive and so Gas is needed. Food is needed as well but no one needs to eat at CFA. There are numerous options. Where to run a gas, train, plane or bus gas is necessity.[/quote]

    according to my research 56% of fuel consumed in the US comes from OPEC and or the Persian Gulf.

    it does not matter if you do not drive, do you use cabs? bus’s? all product is brought in via 18 wheelers, how about your police car’s? or fire trucks?

    if you don’t like CFA don’t eat there, I don’t like Arby’s so I don’t eat there! I don’t care what there personal beliefs are!

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    cgoff

    [quote=appleridge]So you dont care that CFA supports groups that want Gays Killed. Nice CGoff[/quote]

    you support OPEC do you care that they exterminate GAYS? you are nice too then appleridge!

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    appleridge

    [quote=cgoff][quote=appleridge]So you dont care that CFA supports groups that want Gays Killed. Nice CGoff[/quote]

    you support OPEC do you care that they exterminate GAYS? you are nice too then appleridge![/quote]

    Actually no I dont. I never pay for gas never. So my money does not go to them and I for one hate their practices and Ive never said I dont care what they think, like you just did.

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    TomZulawski

    I do not follow your logic, hopefully your son doesn’t either. The CFA agenda is that of a bigot, MR tweeted her support of that agenda on CFA appreciation day. She knew full well what they stand for thus her tweet of support. DONE, OVER, FINISHED!!! Please don’t try to continue to spin this into a freedom of speech issue because it isn’t. This is a show of support from a right wing reborn christian who does not approve of anyone outside of her interpretation of the bible she believes in. I get that, I don’t care about her bigoted view points. I do not want to change her, MR stated where she stands on the CFA subject, now she can deal it.

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    cgoff

    [quote=appleridge][quote=cgoff][quote=appleridge]So you dont care that CFA supports groups that want Gays Killed. Nice CGoff[/quote]

    you support OPEC do you care that they exterminate GAYS? you are nice too then appleridge![/quote]

    Actually no I dont. I never pay for gas never. So my money does not go to them and I for one hate their practices and Ive never said I dont care what they think, like you just did.[/quote]

    so you don’t buy groceries? you don’t ride in a cab or on a train or bus? you don’t buy any product at ANY store that has product brought in by 18 wheelers? you don’t heat your home with gas? or have a hot water heater? 90% of product is manufacted using fuel!

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    appleridge

    CGoff
    Even though I hate their policies those are necessities in life. However, eating at CFA is not. Like I said if we knew what gas places used the OPEC Oil, im sure there would be protests

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    cgoff

    [quote=appleridge]CGoff
    Even though I hate their policies those are necessities in life. However, eating at CFA is not. Like I said if we knew what gas places used the OPEC Oil, im sure there would be protests[/quote]

    then don’t eat there! it is that simple! problem solved! you money is not going to their stance! but that does not give you the right to bash someone who does not agree with your stance!

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    TomZulawski

    [quote=cgoff][quote=TomZulawski]I do not follow your logic, hopefully your son doesn’t either. The CFA agenda is that of a bigot, MR tweeted her support of that agenda on CFA appreciation day. She knew full well what they stand for thus her tweet of support. DONE, OVER, FINISHED!!! Please don’t try to continue to spin this into a freedom of speech issue because it isn’t. This is a show of support from a right wing reborn christian who does not approve of anyone outside of her interpretation of the bible she believes in. I get that, I don’t care about her bigoted view points. I do not want to change her, MR stated where she stands on the CFA subject, now she can deal it.[/quote]

    my son and his husband agree with me in that everyone is allowed to have and state their OWN OPINION, I don’t have to agree with their OPINION, but they have the right to have it and state it without being bashed and calls to have them fired and burned at the stake!

    I am a fan of Michelle Stafford and Shaon Case and Kirstie Alley, I don’t agree with their Scientology religion, but I am not going to bash them for having a faith different then mine![/quote]

    As I stated in my post, Im not trying to change her opionion, but I am calling her out for being a bigot.

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    cgoff

    [quote=TomZulawski]I do not follow your logic, hopefully your son doesn’t either. The CFA agenda is that of a bigot, MR tweeted her support of that agenda on CFA appreciation day. She knew full well what they stand for thus her tweet of support. DONE, OVER, FINISHED!!! Please don’t try to continue to spin this into a freedom of speech issue because it isn’t. This is a show of support from a right wing reborn christian who does not approve of anyone outside of her interpretation of the bible she believes in. I get that, I don’t care about her bigoted view points. I do not want to change her, MR stated where she stands on the CFA subject, now she can deal it.[/quote]

    my son and his husband agree with me in that everyone is allowed to have and state their OWN OPINION, I don’t have to agree with their OPINION, but they have the right to have it and state it without being bashed and calls to have them fired and burned at the stake!

    I am a fan of Michelle Stafford and Shaon Case and Kirstie Alley, I don’t agree with their Scientology following, but I am not going to bash them for having a faith different then mine!

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    appleridge

    Its also sad that mR blocked her twitter because from the tweets i could see, ppl were trying to tell her about the hate groups CFA gives to. Given MR’s interview on Teen gay suicides last year, I doubt she is anti gay, just naive

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    cgoff

    [quote=TomZulawski][quote=cgoff][quote=TomZulawski]I do not follow your logic, hopefully your son doesn’t either. The CFA agenda is that of a bigot, MR tweeted her support of that agenda on CFA appreciation day. She knew full well what they stand for thus her tweet of support. DONE, OVER, FINISHED!!! Please don’t try to continue to spin this into a freedom of speech issue because it isn’t. This is a show of support from a right wing reborn christian who does not approve of anyone outside of her interpretation of the bible she believes in. I get that, I don’t care about her bigoted view points. I do not want to change her, MR stated where she stands on the CFA subject, now she can deal it.[/quote]

    my son and his husband agree with me in that everyone is allowed to have and state their OWN OPINION, I don’t have to agree with their OPINION, but they have the right to have it and state it without being bashed and calls to have them fired and burned at the stake!

    I am a fan of Michelle Stafford and Shaon Case and Kirstie Alley, I don’t agree with their Scientology religion, but I am not going to bash them for having a faith different then mine![/quote]

    As I stated in my post, Im not trying to change her opionion, but I am calling her out for being a bigot.[/quote]

    again, I do not see any bigotry in her comment, and I have yet to see anyone provide PROOF of her making a bigoted comment. I don’t like seeing young men with their pants hanging down and their underwear showing! does that make me a bigot? btw, I am also an AA woman! if I see any of my grandkids dressed like that I will tell them to pull em up or take them off!

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    pjc722

    It does surprise me about the cowardly silence that Melissa Reeves is now taking on this issue after she squarely placed herself in the middle of it. She is a huge star in the daytime arena. She, herself, has gone against God’s teachings more than once when she cheated for several months with her co-star while married.

    Yet, she supports Chick-fil-a’s stance on marriage between a man and a woman and now that she sees the blogs going hogwild on her tweet she is staying quiet.

    Maybe THE VIEW, or THE TALK should invite her on there to defend her statement and then WHOOPIE or SHARON OSBORNE or SHERYL UNDERWOOD or even SARA GILBERT can RIP HER A NEW ONE by calling her out on her bigoted support of something that is NOT RIGHT!

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    cgoff

    [quote=pjc722]It does surprise me about the cowardly silence that Melissa Reeves is now taking on this issue after she squarely placed herself in the middle of it. She is a huge star in the daytime arena. She, herself, has gone against God’s teachings more than once when she cheated for several months with her co-star while married.

    Yet, she supports Chick-fil-a’s stance on marriage between a man and a woman and now that she sees the blogs going hogwild on her tweet she is staying quiet.

    Maybe THE VIEW, or THE TALK should invite her on there to defend her statement and then WHOOPIE or SHARON OSBORNE or SHERYL UNDERWOOD or even SARA GILBERT can RIP HER A NEW ONE by calling her out on her bigoted support of something that is NOT RIGHT![/quote]

    why does she HAVE to defend her statement? why does she have to post on twitter all the time? she does not tweet that much anyhow! she has a life and family and a job!

    no one has to defend their OPINION and no one has the right to bash someone because their OPINION is different then yours!

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    pjc722

    How about this, people. LET’S all BOYCOTT DAYS for one week. Let’s choose a date, all opt out of watching the show. Show Melissa Reeves that we may allow her to say whatever STUPID and IDIOTIC thing she wants BUT WE WILL NOT STAND for it.

    By boycotting the show, it may not change her mind about what is right or wrong (seeing that she’s a cheating, lying cheater, anyway) BUT it will show the world that the power of solidarity is out there. Just like the boycotts of the buses in the 60s, we should start to boycott to get people to hear us.

    “Let those without sin throw the first stone.”

    It will also show Melissa that sometimes the freedom to say something DOESN’T MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD ACTUALLY SAY IT.

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    TomZulawski

    CGOFF Im sure you are a fine wonderful person, It is extremely difficult to believe knowing the background of MR that she only intended to show her support of freedom of speech in her tweet. With that being said, MR took a stand when she sent out her tweet with a wink. Like the struggle that faced your ancestors and the people that stood on their behalf in an effort to bring equality and respect to a major minority group, I would hope for the same to stand up and fight for the gay and lesbian community. People could have sat on the sidelines and said there is no need for integration in schools, blacks have a school and they should be happy with what they get. But at some point someone stepped in and saw an inequality and took a stand toward changing it.

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    cgoff

    [quote=pjc722]How about this, people. LET’S all BOYCOTT DAYS for one week. Let’s choose a date, all opt out of watching the show. Show Melissa Reeves that we may allow her to say whatever STUPID and IDIOTIC thing she wants BUT WE WILL NOT STAND for it.

    By boycotting the show, it may not change her mind about what is right or wrong (seeing that she’s a cheating, lying cheater, anyway) BUT it will show the world that the power of solidarity is out there. Just like the boycotts of the buses in the 60s, we should start to boycott to get people to hear us.

    “Let those without sin throw the first stone.”

    It will also show Melissa that sometimes the freedom to say something DOESN’T MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD ACTUALLY SAY IT.[/quote]

    LOL this is hilarious!

    so are you included in your last statement? or is your OPINION and the right to state it the only thing you think should be allowed to be heard?

    MR is not the only actor on DOOL! why should she or the show be punished for an OPINION?

    this is almost as bad as the Salem With hunts and burning people at the stake for what some “thought” they said or did!

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    cgoff

    [quote=TomZulawski]CGOFF Im sure you are a fine wonderful person, It is extremely difficult to believe knowing the background of MR that she only intended to show her support of freedom of speech in her tweet. With that being said, MR took a stand when she sent out her tweet with a wink. Like the struggle that faced your ancestors and the people that stood on their behalf in an effort to bring equality and respect to a major minority group, I would hope for the same to stand up and fight for the gay and lesbian community. People could have sat on the sidelines and said there is no need for integration in schools, blacks have a school and they should be happy with what they get. But at some point someone stepped in and saw an inequality and took a stand toward changing it.[/quote]

    you have no idea of my life growing up Mississippi in the 40’s and 50’s, so don’t speak for me.

    my point is, everyone has the right to their own OPINION, everyone has the right to state their OPINION without being bashed or trashed of have death threats or wanting her fired from her job.

    VR hates white people! I did not see anyone saying she should not work!

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    TomZulawski

    [quote=cgoff][quote=TomZulawski]CGOFF Im sure you are a fine wonderful person, It is extremely difficult to believe knowing the background of MR that she only intended to show her support of freedom of speech in her tweet. With that being said, MR took a stand when she sent out her tweet with a wink. Like the struggle that faced your ancestors and the people that stood on their behalf in an effort to bring equality and respect to a major minority group, I would hope for the same to stand up and fight for the gay and lesbian community. People could have sat on the sidelines and said there is no need for integration in schools, blacks have a school and they should be happy with what they get. But at some point someone stepped in and saw an inequality and took a stand toward changing it.[/quote]

    you have no idea of my life growing up Mississippi in the 40’s and 50’s, so don’t speak for me.

    my point is, everyone has the right to their own OPINION, everyone has the right to state their OPINION without being bashed or trashed of have death threats or wanting her fired from her job.

    VR hates white people! I did not see anyone saying she should not work![/quote]

    I wasn’t speaking for you, I asked that you have an understanding for the gay and lesbian community since you may have endured the same issues. This is an issue of intolerance and hate, you above all people should be able to see that, but apparently you are incapable.

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    cgoff

    [quote=TomZulawski][quote=cgoff][quote=TomZulawski]CGOFF Im sure you are a fine wonderful person, It is extremely difficult to believe knowing the background of MR that she only intended to show her support of freedom of speech in her tweet. With that being said, MR took a stand when she sent out her tweet with a wink. Like the struggle that faced your ancestors and the people that stood on their behalf in an effort to bring equality and respect to a major minority group, I would hope for the same to stand up and fight for the gay and lesbian community. People could have sat on the sidelines and said there is no need for integration in schools, blacks have a school and they should be happy with what they get. But at some point someone stepped in and saw an inequality and took a stand toward changing it.[/quote]

    you have no idea of my life growing up Mississippi in the 40’s and 50’s, so don’t speak for me.

    my point is, everyone has the right to their own OPINION, everyone has the right to state their OPINION without being bashed or trashed of have death threats or wanting her fired from her job.

    VR hates white people! I did not see anyone saying she should not work![/quote]

    I wasn’t speaking for you, I asked that you have an understanding for the gay and lesbian community since you may have endured the same issues. This is an issue of intolerance and hate, you above all people should be able to see that, but apparently you are incapable.[/quote]

    I know of intolerence, and I know about stupidity and ignorance. Guess you missed my post about my son and his husband! I understand it all, I however do not agree with bashing and trashing anyone for their OPINION just because I do not agree with it! I don’t like rap music! I make the decision not to listen to it, that does not mean I trash and bash those who like it!

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    david46208

    @everyone & cgoff: Because many people here don’t want to deal with fact. They want to create their own facts. They want to go off on a tangent. They want to act on emotion and attack others who take the time to engage in critical thinking skills. You know that thing they teach you in school?

    But let me bring some things into the discussion that people have not even thought about.

    2008 3 white college men at Duke were accused of raping a black stripper who did a house call. The majority of my people did not need all the facts before they came to conclusion that these were some guilty white boys from rich families who were simply going to get away with a crime based on their social economic level. Turned out the stripper lied.

    2009 a sistah at a southeastern university accuses 4 brotha’s of gang-raping her. Turns out she had consensual sex aka “A Train” with them and was afraid that they would they tell others on the campus about her sexual exploits.

    We recently learned about the brotha who spent 5 years in jail off of a sistah who falsely accused him of rape and a public and criminal justice system who was too quick to side with the accuser. Because she was too afraid that she would be forced to give back the 1 million dollars she sued and won from the school district for her false sexual assault claim. And this brotha’s whole college football scholarship was derailed.

    Now let’s get personal here. My eldest brother spent 8 months in jail when a white women accused him (as one of the only 2 black men on his college football) of rape when she was forced to by the actual white teammates who gang raped her. It took her that long to tell the truth but his career and his chances at the pro’s were already damaged.

    Then I myself remember in high school having spent the night at a house with a friend of mines and the next day being visited at our local Subway by the police when I was falsely accused of theft. And the parent who accused me had nothing more to go on then that I was (among the 5 people who spent the night) there and was black. Because my white friends never got taken into the station by the police and/or questioned, just me.

    So having experienced and understanding that my people have been and still can be falsely accused of a crime without no evidence, just one’s opinion or ideas. Knowing that anyone can be accused of a crime they did not commit. It would behoove me not to come to judgement where the only thing MR has said was that she supported free speech.

    And that’s why too many of you here who claim to having knowledge and understanding of discrimination and try to question others are simply narrow-mindedly focused on your own emotion and NOT, using critical thinking skills.

    So learn something from this. Because you don’t know what the hell people have been through here. When you rush to formulate a judgement that meets your bias and expatiation’s… When you rush to slander and try to bloody someone’s name. Think of that first. Put your emotions and personal feeling’s aside and think!

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    appleridge

    David

    No one should be slandering or threatning Melissa. However a lot of her fans do not support CFA because they give money to anti gay groups. Most of the tweets I saw before she protected her accountwere trying to inform her of that. Most i saw were quite civil.

    Personally I dont believe she is anti gay given past interviews. Just ignorant on CFA and what they do. I wish she hadnt blocked her twitter and at the same time I wish some did not over step with her. I think we could all have handled it more civily and this could have been settled by now.

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    cgoff

    [quote=david46208]@everyone & cgoff: Because many people here don’t want to deal with fact. They want to create their own facts. They want to go off on tangent. They want to act on emotion and attack others who take the time to engage in critical thinking skills. Yu know that thing they teach you in school?

    But me bring some things into the discussion that people have not even thought about.

    2008 3 white college men at Duke were accused of raping a black stripper who did a house call. The majority of my people did not need all the facts before they came to conclusion that these were some guilty white boys from rich families who simply going to get away with a crime based on their social economic level. Turned out the stripper lied.

    2009 a sistah at southeastern university accuses 4 brotha’s of gang-raping her. Turns out she had consensual sex aka “A Train” with them and was afraid that they would they tell others on the campus about her sexual exploits.

    We recently learned about the brotha who spent 5 years in jail off of a sistah who falsely accused him of rape and a public and criminal justice system who was too quick to side with the accuser. Because she was too afraid that she would be forced to give back the 1 million dollars she sued and won from the school district for her false sexual assault claim. And this brotha’s whole college football scholarship was derailed.

    Now let’s get personal here. My eldest brother spent 8 months in jail when a white women accused him (as one of the only 2 black men on his college football) of rape when she was forced to by the actual white teammates who gang raped her. It took her that long to tell the truth but his career and his chances at the pro’s were already damaged.

    Then I myself remember in high school having spent the night at a house with a friend of mines and the next day being visited at our local Subway by the police when I was falsely accused of theft. And the parent who accused me had nothing more to go on then that I was (among the 5 people who spent the night) there and was black. Because my white friends never got taken into the station by the police and/or questioned, just me.

    So having experienced and understanding that my people have been and still can be falsely accused of a crime without no evidence, just one’s opinion or ideas. It would behoove me not to come to judgement where the only thing MR has said was that she supported free speech.

    And that’s why too many of you here who claim to having knowledge and understanding of discrimination and try to question others are simply narrowed minded focused on your own emotion and NOT, using critical thinking skills.

    So learn something from this. Because you don’t know what the hell people have been through here. When you rush to formulate a judgement that meets your bias and expatiation’s… When you rush to slander and try to bloody someone’s name. Think of that first. Put your emotions and personal feeling’s aside and think![/quote]

    Haven grown up in Mississippi and went to one of the first intergrated schools, I know first hand what it is like to bashed and spit on and called names all because of the color of my skin. How do you overcome that and “show them”, hold your head up, do better then anyone else and move forward!

    Intolerence is about those who refuse to move forward and accept change and those who will only see one way and not allow anyone else to have a different OPINION without bullying them.

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    TomZulawski

    [quote=cgoff][quote=TomZulawski][quote=cgoff][quote=TomZulawski]CGOFF Im sure you are a fine wonderful person, It is extremely difficult to believe knowing the background of MR that she only intended to show her support of freedom of speech in her tweet. With that being said, MR took a stand when she sent out her tweet with a wink. Like the struggle that faced your ancestors and the people that stood on their behalf in an effort to bring equality and respect to a major minority group, I would hope for the same to stand up and fight for the gay and lesbian community. People could have sat on the sidelines and said there is no need for integration in schools, blacks have a school and they should be happy with what they get. But at some point someone stepped in and saw an inequality and took a stand toward changing it.[/quote]

    you have no idea of my life growing up Mississippi in the 40’s and 50’s, so don’t speak for me.

    my point is, everyone has the right to their own OPINION, everyone has the right to state their OPINION without being bashed or trashed of have death threats or wanting her fired from her job.

    VR hates white people! I did not see anyone saying she should not work![/quote]

    I wasn’t speaking for you, I asked that you have an understanding for the gay and lesbian community since you may have endured the same issues. This is an issue of intolerance and hate, you above all people should be able to see that, but apparently you are incapable.[/quote]

    I know of intolerence, and I know about stupidity and ignorance. Guess you missed my post about my son and his husband! I understand it all, I however do not agree with bashing and trashing anyone for their OPINION just because I do not agree with it! I don’t like rap music! I make the decision not to listen to it, that does not mean I trash and bash those who like it![/quote]

    I do not feel that I have bashed or trashed MR I have not stated she should lose her job, I cant even fathom death threats, that is crazy. I understand this is her opinion, and I have many time stated that I do not wish to change her opinion. She has stated her stance and now she can deal with what comes her way due to that opinion. My heart breaks for what you went through in Mississippi. I for one would have been right beside you fighting on your behalf. I have much respect for you CGOFF.

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    RealityCheck 33

    [quote=The_Moustache]i hope Melissa gets fired from DAYS for saying that.[/quote]

    When did America become China? There is freedom of speech. Perhaps if someone disagrees with you politically, then you should get fired for expressing your beliefs.

    Take a breath and stop with the knee-jerk reactions to those you don’t agree with.

    BTW, Greg Rikaart had better watch out. He’s on the Y&R cut list. He may be the one out of work soon.

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    cgoff

    the only answer to bigotry and intolerence is NOT to sink to their level

    too bad some do not do that

    GR did not say anything about MR needing to be fired, neither did MR say she hated ALL Gay’s, Lesbian’s, Bi-Sexual’s or TransGenders! yet I read how some want her fired for it!

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    soapjunkie88

    It’s interesting that some people who defended Melissa Reeves in the first place and talked about free speech and everything are now attacking Greg Rikaart – or Brandon Barash. That says a lot.

    I don’t want Melissa Reeves to be fired from DAYS for her tweet. But I do find it concerning for her career. She has lost a lot of support from soap fans, while gaining some from conservative Christians.
    Melissa Reeves knows about the news about her tweet. At this point, she could have made a simple comment to clarify the situation. It’s very dangerous for her to be silent now and only react in a way where she is blocking everyone that had something to say against her tweet – even the comments that were very civil.
    Showing that reaction while your show has a gay storyline on the air is very unfortunate.

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    Bellajewels

    [quote=TomZulawski]CGOFF Im sure you are a fine wonderful person, It is extremely difficult to believe knowing the background of MR that she only intended to show her support of freedom of speech in her tweet. With that being said, MR took a stand when she sent out her tweet with a wink. Like the struggle that faced your ancestors and the people that stood on their behalf in an effort to bring equality and respect to a major minority group, I would hope for the same to stand up and fight for the gay and lesbian community. People could have sat on the sidelines and said there is no need for integration in schools, blacks have a school and they should be happy with what they get. But at some point someone stepped in and saw an inequality and took a stand toward changing it.[/quote]

    The perseverance of the black community is what did it. I don’t know what ethnicity you are but the white community didn’t give the black community a leg up. We shouldn’t pat ourselves on the backs and act like they owe us some debt of gratitude. And lets not forget that Rosa Parks didn’t stand in the streets screaming at the top of her lungs because she had the right to sit wherever she wanted on the bus. No, she just sat quietly in her seat and refused to be forced out. Martin Luther King Jr. didn’t demand that his dream be fulfilled. He just expressed the desire to see blacks and whites as equals. When you try and force people to your way of thinking the only thing you accomplish is causing them to dig their heels in even more. But when you peacefully and respectfully demonstrate that maybe the differences between you are far fewer than the similarities then you have more of a chance of getting people to see your point of view.

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    Bellajewels

    [quote=appleridge]greg never said he wanted Melissa fired. Just disappointed in her. Thought he was pretty civil.[/quote]

    If they’re friends in real life then he could have called her and expressed that disappointment in a over the phone or face to face manner. If they’re not friends in real life did he really need to share that he was disappointed in her. His comment wasn’t a necessary comment. Melissa’s may not have been either but people feel that because I have the right to say what I want then I should.

    BB didn’t say anything about MR when he posted about CFA. He just mentioned the company. He has as much right to make a negative comment about CFA as MR does to make a positive comment. However I think GR saw that he got a bit of credit for it and decided that he was going to say something as well. He waited a full day or more before expressing his “disappointment” in MR. Why does his disappointment in MR make a difference to her? And if they’re friends in real life, and I say this regarding NLG as well, then why make it a public point to point out that she may be faulty in her facts and that they’re disappointed in her point of view. That’s like if my sister believes in spanking her children and I don’t me taking her in front of everyone in our world and saying “I’m disappointed in you that you spank your children.” Some things need to be handled privately. Granted MR made her comment publicly but that doesn’t mean that she needed to be publicly chastised by her “friends.”

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    cgoff

    [quote=Bellajewels][quote=TomZulawski]CGOFF Im sure you are a fine wonderful person, It is extremely difficult to believe knowing the background of MR that she only intended to show her support of freedom of speech in her tweet. With that being said, MR took a stand when she sent out her tweet with a wink. Like the struggle that faced your ancestors and the people that stood on their behalf in an effort to bring equality and respect to a major minority group, I would hope for the same to stand up and fight for the gay and lesbian community. People could have sat on the sidelines and said there is no need for integration in schools, blacks have a school and they should be happy with what they get. But at some point someone stepped in and saw an inequality and took a stand toward changing it.[/quote]

    The perseverance of the black community is what did it. I don’t know what ethnicity you are but the white community didn’t give the black community a leg up. We shouldn’t pat ourselves on the backs and act like they owe us some debt of gratitude. And lets not forget that Rosa Parks didn’t stand in the streets screaming at the top of her lungs because she had the right to sit wherever she wanted on the bus. No, she just sat quietly in her seat and refused to be forced out. Martin Luther King Jr. didn’t demand that his dream be fulfilled. He just expressed the desire to see blacks and whites as equals. When you try and force people to your way of thinking the only thing you accomplish is causing them to dig their heels in even more. But when you peacefully and respectfully demonstrate that maybe the differences between you are far fewer than the similarities then you have more of a chance of getting people to see your point of view.[/quote]

    When you try and force people to your way of thinking the only thing you accomplish is causing them to dig their heels in even more

    and yet that is what some are trying to force on MR!

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    TomZulawski

    [quote=cgoff][quote=Bellajewels][quote=TomZulawski]CGOFF Im sure you are a fine wonderful person, It is extremely difficult to believe knowing the background of MR that she only intended to show her support of freedom of speech in her tweet. With that being said, MR took a stand when she sent out her tweet with a wink. Like the struggle that faced your ancestors and the people that stood on their behalf in an effort to bring equality and respect to a major minority group, I would hope for the same to stand up and fight for the gay and lesbian community. People could have sat on the sidelines and said there is no need for integration in schools, blacks have a school and they should be happy with what they get. But at some point someone stepped in and saw an inequality and took a stand toward changing it.[/quote]

    The perseverance of the black community is what did it. I don’t know what ethnicity you are but the white community didn’t give the black community a leg up. We shouldn’t pat ourselves on the backs and act like they owe us some debt of gratitude. And lets not forget that Rosa Parks didn’t stand in the streets screaming at the top of her lungs because she had the right to sit wherever she wanted on the bus. No, she just sat quietly in her seat and refused to be forced out. Martin Luther King Jr. didn’t demand that his dream be fulfilled. He just expressed the desire to see blacks and whites as equals. When you try and force people to your way of thinking the only thing you accomplish is causing them to dig their heels in even more. But when you peacefully and respectfully demonstrate that maybe the differences between you are far fewer than the similarities then you have more of a chance of getting people to see your point of view.[/quote]

    When you try and force people to your way of thinking the only thing you accomplish is causing them to dig their heels in even more

    and yet that is what some are trying to force on MR![/quote]

    Pull up some you tube clips of civil rights marches, there was plenty of shouting on both sides, and you are terribly misinformed if you think that only the blacks stood for their rights, many whites stood there right beside them fighting on their behalf as well.

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    cgoff

    [quote=Bellajewels][quote=appleridge]greg never said he wanted Melissa fired. Just disappointed in her. Thought he was pretty civil.[/quote]

    If they’re friends in real life then he could have called her and expressed that disappointment in a over the phone or face to face manner. If they’re not friends in real life did he really need to share that he was disappointed in her. His comment wasn’t a necessary comment. Melissa’s may not have been either but people feel that because I have the right to say what I want then I should.

    BB didn’t say anything about MR when he posted about CFA. He just mentioned the company. He has as much right to make a negative comment about CFA as MR does to make a positive comment. However I think GR saw that he got a bit of credit for it and decided that he was going to say something as well. He waited a full day or more before expressing his “disappointment” in MR. Why does his disappointment in MR make a difference to her? And if they’re friends in real life, and I say this regarding NLG as well, then why make it a public point to point out that she may be faulty in her facts and that they’re disappointed in her point of view. That’s like if my sister believes in spanking her children and I don’t me taking her in front of everyone in our world and saying “I’m disappointed in you that you spank your children.” Some things need to be handled privately. Granted MR made her comment publicly but that doesn’t mean that she needed to be publicly chastised by her “friends.”[/quote]

    didn’t you get the memo? BB, NLG and GR are ALLOWED to have AN OPINION, MR is not ALLOWED to have a different OPINION

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    TomZulawski

    Bellajewles obviously you feel MR freedom of speech and right to her opinion is more important than millions of people’s civil rights. We understand your point and you have driven this into the ground far enough.

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    soapjunkie88

    [quote=cgoff]didn’t you get the memo? BB, NLG and GR are ALLOWED to have AN OPINION, MR is not ALLOWED to have a different OPINION[/quote]
    Because that is what it’s all about? Melissa Reeves’ opinion!? Because it’s NOT! It has been made clear several times now. It’s not about free speech or just having a different opinion.

    I think Nancy Lee Grahn’s tweet says it best: “I’m all for 1st Am rights, but when you buy Chick Fil A, your $$ are going to fund hate groups that are actively attacking gay rights.”

    THAT’S WHAT IT’S ABOUT! And that is why people like Nancy, Greg Rikaart or Brandon Barash come forward.

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    cgoff

    [quote=TomZulawski][quote=cgoff][quote=Bellajewels][quote=TomZulawski]CGOFF Im sure you are a fine wonderful person, It is extremely difficult to believe knowing the background of MR that she only intended to show her support of freedom of speech in her tweet. With that being said, MR took a stand when she sent out her tweet with a wink. Like the struggle that faced your ancestors and the people that stood on their behalf in an effort to bring equality and respect to a major minority group, I would hope for the same to stand up and fight for the gay and lesbian community. People could have sat on the sidelines and said there is no need for integration in schools, blacks have a school and they should be happy with what they get. But at some point someone stepped in and saw an inequality and took a stand toward changing it.[/quote]

    The perseverance of the black community is what did it. I don’t know what ethnicity you are but the white community didn’t give the black community a leg up. We shouldn’t pat ourselves on the backs and act like they owe us some debt of gratitude. And lets not forget that Rosa Parks didn’t stand in the streets screaming at the top of her lungs because she had the right to sit wherever she wanted on the bus. No, she just sat quietly in her seat and refused to be forced out. Martin Luther King Jr. didn’t demand that his dream be fulfilled. He just expressed the desire to see blacks and whites as equals. When you try and force people to your way of thinking the only thing you accomplish is causing them to dig their heels in even more. But when you peacefully and respectfully demonstrate that maybe the differences between you are far fewer than the similarities then you have more of a chance of getting people to see your point of view.[/quote]

    When you try and force people to your way of thinking the only thing you accomplish is causing them to dig their heels in even more

    and yet that is what some are trying to force on MR![/quote]

    Pull up some you tube clips of civil rights marches, there was plenty of shouting on both sides, and you are terribly misinformed if you think that only the blacks stood for their rights, many whites stood there right beside them fighting on their behalf as well.[/quote]

    honey, I lived the civil rigthts growing up in Mississippi in the 40’s and 50’s, I do not need YouTube to see it!

    As a AA woman, I know about bigotry and intolerence, as the mother of GAY AA man I know about bigotry and intolerence. As a working AA woman over the age of 60, I know about bigotry and intolerence. As a AA woman with a college education and who does not speak like I just walked off the TARA plantation, I know about bigotry and intolerance from my own AA brothers and sisters.

    Do you know how I fought bigotry and intolerence? I got out, got an education and provided for my children to better themselves while my husband spent 25 years in the Navy and out of the country the majority of their lives. One son is a lawyer and the other is a Dentist, one Daughter is a Doctor and the other has her PhD in Education. We were never on welfare, food stamps or government subsidies.

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    cgoff

    [quote=soapjunkie88][quote=cgoff]didn’t you get the memo? BB, NLG and GR are ALLOWED to have AN OPINION, MR is not ALLOWED to have a different OPINION[/quote]
    Because that is what it’s all about? Melissa Reeves’ opinion!? Because it’s NOT! It has been made clear several times now. It’s not about free speech or just having a different opinion.

    I think Nancy Lee Grahn’s tweet says it best: “I’m all for 1st Am rights, but when you buy Chick Fil A, your $$ are going to fund hate groups that are actively attacking gay rights.”

    THAT’S WHAT IT’S ABOUT! And that is why people like Nancy, Greg Rikaart or Brandon Barash come forward.[/quote]

    no all I see on here is bashing and trashing Melissa Reeves and her under 140 letter tweet!

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    TomZulawski

    Ok, CGoff you are better, smarter, and more evolved than everyone who posted on here, is that what you want to hear? Fine Ill say it, you and the best, you are the smartest, you have fought harder and seen more than all of us. So that gives you the right to tell us your opinion is the only one that matters. Ok, I hope you are now happy.

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    david46208

    @TomZulawski: Yes her ability to say she supports the freedom of speech is embedded in the Constitution. You have read it?

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

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    soapjunkie88

    [quote=cgoff][quote=soapjunkie88][quote=cgoff]didn’t you get the memo? BB, NLG and GR are ALLOWED to have AN OPINION, MR is not ALLOWED to have a different OPINION[/quote]
    Because that is what it’s all about? Melissa Reeves’ opinion!? Because it’s NOT! It has been made clear several times now. It’s not about free speech or just having a different opinion.
    I think Nancy Lee Grahn’s tweet says it best: “I’m all for 1st Am rights, but when you buy Chick Fil A, your $$ are going to fund hate groups that are actively attacking gay rights.”
    THAT’S WHAT IT’S ABOUT! And that is why people like Nancy, Greg Rikaart or Brandon Barash come forward.[/quote]
    no all I see on here is bashing and trashing Melissa Reeves and her under 140 letter tweet![/quote]

    You don’t need many letters to insult or hurt people with who or what you are supporting. And while there have been people that trashed and bashed Melissa Reeves, there also have been people that did the same with Brandon Barash, Greg Rikaart and Nancy Lee Grahn.

    And while there are some nasty comments, I also see a very civil discussion. I see people asking where Melissa Reeves stands in all that. I see people being hurt and disappointed by her words.

    You have to see both sides here.

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    cgoff

    [quote=TomZulawski]Ok, CGoff you are better, smarter, and more evolved than everyone who posted on here, is that what you want to hear? Fine Ill say it, you and the best, you are the smartest, you have fought harder and seen more than all of us. So that gives you the right to tell us your opinion is the only one that matters. Ok, I hope you are now happy.[/quote]

    so instead of carrying on a legitimate debate you are now bashing and trashing me?

    never said I was better, but when you try to tell me about being Black and the civil rights, damn straight I am coming back at ya!

    again, why is it some think that there can only be ONE OPINION? I know I never have said that! or believed it! as college Professor once told us “your rights end where my rights begin, that does not negate your rights or mine, we are both equal in our rights” when one party thinks their OPINION is the only OPINION, that is where there will be a problem

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    TomZulawski

    So I find it interesting that your black rights are now more important that my gay rights. Funny how you want to come at me when you dont like something I said but Im not supposed to voice my opinion when MR attacks my people. I see how this is.

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    cgoff

    [quote=soapjunkie88][quote=cgoff][quote=soapjunkie88][quote=cgoff]didn’t you get the memo? BB, NLG and GR are ALLOWED to have AN OPINION, MR is not ALLOWED to have a different OPINION[/quote]
    Because that is what it’s all about? Melissa Reeves’ opinion!? Because it’s NOT! It has been made clear several times now. It’s not about free speech or just having a different opinion.
    I think Nancy Lee Grahn’s tweet says it best: “I’m all for 1st Am rights, but when you buy Chick Fil A, your $$ are going to fund hate groups that are actively attacking gay rights.”
    THAT’S WHAT IT’S ABOUT! And that is why people like Nancy, Greg Rikaart or Brandon Barash come forward.[/quote]
    no all I see on here is bashing and trashing Melissa Reeves and her under 140 letter tweet![/quote]

    You don’t need many letters to insult or hurt people with who or what you are supporting. And while there have been people that trashed and bashed Melissa Reeves, there also have been people that did the same with Brandon Barash, Greg Rikaart and Nancy Lee Grahn.

    And while there are some nasty comments, I also see a very civil discussion. I see people asking where Melissa Reeves stands in all that. I see people being hurt and disappointed by her words.

    You have to see both sides here.[/quote]

    it is none of our buisness where Melissa Reeves stands in all this, she is allowed to have her own beliefs and OPINIONS, why is it some do not want to allow that?

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    cgoff

    [quote=TomZulawski]So I find it interesting that your black rights are now more important that my gay rights. Funny how you want to come at me when you dont like something I said but Im not supposed to voice my opinion when MR attacks my people. I see how this is.[/quote]

    show me where MR attacks my people, my son and his husband and I will agree with you that she is a bigot, so far no one will show that, not even you!

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    soapjunkie88

    [quote=cgoff]it is none of our buisness where Melissa Reeves stands in all this, she is allowed to have her own beliefs and OPINIONS, why is it some do not want to allow that?[/quote]

    Melissa Reeves publicly tweeted about it.
    And of course she can have her own beliefs and opinions. But isn’t it worth talking about it when she supports hate? And that’s why it’s not about free speech. That is why it’s our business.

    [quote=cgoff]show me where MR attacks my people, my son and his husband and I will agree with you that she is a bigot, so far no one will show that, not even you![/quote]

    What is that suppose to mean? Does that mean if Melissa Reeves would support a fast food restaurant that supports hate on black people it would be different? Then she would become a bigot, but as long as she is just supporting a company that supports hate on gay people it’s fine? It’s just about her beliefs and her opinion?

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    TomZulawski

    Her tweet for support on Chik Fil A appreciation day said it all, It has been all over the news exactly what that day was supposed to be about. She had full advanced knowledge of the CFA agenda and by supporting that cause, it was an affront to the gay community. You can spin this any way you want, believe whatever you want, but the fact is she knew exactly what her stand was when she tweeted. This was not about freedom of speech, CFA was called out prior by the public for their contribution to the anti gay groups they donate to. CFA has a former publicized history of being anti gay. There is not a snow balls chance in hell MR was unaware of this. So it was no coincidence she being a right wing conservative christian showed her support for CFA. Yes, that is her opinion and that is what she believes, that doesnt make it right and history has proven that over time, the majority is not always correct.
    I’m done debating this because its going no where. I to am a highly educated PhD, with a major in black history, so although I did not live in Mississippi in the 40’s and 50’s, I understand probably more than you think I do.

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    cgoff

    [quote=TomZulawski]Her tweet for support on Chik Fil A appreciation day said it all, It has been all over the news exactly what that day was supposed to be about. She had full advanced knowledge of the CFA agenda and by supporting that cause, it was an affront to the gay community. You can spin this any way you want, believe whatever you want, but the fact is she knew exactly what her stand was when she tweeted. This was not about freedom of speech, CFA was called out prior by the public for their contribution to the anti gay groups they donate to. CFA has a former publicized history of being anti gay. There is not a snow balls chance in hell MR was unaware of this. So it was no coincidence she being a right wing conservative christian showed her support for CFA. Yes, that is her opinion and that is what she believes, that doesnt make it right and history has proven that over time, the majority is not always correct.
    I’m done debating this because its going no where. I to am a highly educated PhD, with a major in black history, so although I did not live in Mississippi in the 40’s and 50’s, I understand probably more than you think I do.[/quote]

    reading about it in a book or watching it in a film or taking a few clases in it or a news-clip or YouTube is like saying your an ice skater when you slip on the drive way in the winter, unless you lived it, unless you were spit on and called vile names, had your school locker filled with urine and human bowel movement, watched your mother work as a house keeper with dry bloody hands and working 12 hour days trying to raise 6 kids on her own, you have no idea of which you speak.

    MR never in her tweet on that day said anything that could be legally called a sign of her bigotry.

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    TomZulawski

    CGOFF, you continue to compare your fight for equality to others. I had no easy life either, I’ve been through my share of hell too. You seem to get very riled up when speaking of your first hand account of bigotry and hatred in the south but yet when you see the gay community get riled up over people standing in lines to order a greasy chicken sandwich all due to the fact that they hate you doesn’t seem to matter. Ill walk away from this saying that the gay community is the last large minority group to get their civil rights. As it was with the black community when you were getting spit on and such, the same is true with the gay community seeing people standing around the block at a CFA just because they dont like you. You keep supporting MR and her opinion and Ill keep fighting for the equality for the gay community. Im not sure how you would feel in 2012 if they were lining up at McDonalds to buy hamburgers simply because no one wanted you to drink from their water fountain, go to their school, or ride with them on the bus. It would be their opinion of course, and if that is how they feel then you should just accept it and realize they are just asserting their first amendment rights.

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    appleridge

    Maybe ive been to naive but I guess what my gran used to say is true: When one group that has been oppressed gets a little bit of power instead of helping other groups they just oppress them. Its sad.

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    david46208

    @soapjunkie88: Her tweet was in support of free speech. The problem here is that people have been deciding to create their own meaning behind her support of free speech. That’s slander. Call it what it is.

    Only thing anyone knows here for a fact is that she said that she supported free speech. That’s all you know. Many people have decided that that means she supports whatever CFA stands for. That’s where the lies and the slander begin. It is just like the game of telephone.

    And what is funny to me is that as many times as I pointed to the facts. Just the facts, people avoid those facts to create their own. This is the root of the problem. See it easy for me because i’m dealing with fact and not fiction.

    And to close if your argument can’t hold up in court it is useless. But MR could sue for slander if something were to happen to her. She has the grounds for it if she wished. I’m just saying…

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    david46208

    @TomZulawski: He could if he suffered as an account of it financially. That is what MR could do as well. So what I’ve learned from people like you is that you don’t care what the facts are. What you believe is THE TRUTH no matter what the facts are. I must thank you for teaching me that. It says a lot.

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    soapjunkie88

    [quote=david46208]@soapjunkie88: Her tweet was in support of free speech. The problem here is that people have been deciding to create their own meaning behind her support of free speech. That’s slander. Call it what it is.
    Only thing anyone knows here for a fact is that she said that she supported free speech. That’s all you know. Many people have decided that that means she supports whatever CFA stands for. That’s where the lies and the slander begin. It is just like the game of telephone.
    And what is funny to me is that as many times as I pointed to the facts. Just the facts, people avoid those facts to create their own. This is the root of the problem. See it easy for me because i’m dealing with fact and not fiction.
    And to close if your argument can’t hold up in court it is useless. But MR could sue for slander if something were to happen to her. She has the grounds for it if she wished. I’m just saying…[/quote]

    Melissa Reeves supported Chick-fli-A on their Appreciation day. The day where the company fought for their right to support gay hating groups. These ain’t lies or slander.

    But because Melissa Reeves throw in something about free speech, people make that this is what it’s about.

    It’s about the fact that she supported the company on that day. Appreciation day. Where the company celebrated the support of people who agreeing with what they stand for.

    Why are people trying to separate her involvement with Chick-fli-A and make this all about free speech? I don’t get it.

    If she wants to sue and can make a case in court I would be interested how this would develop.

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    Bellajewels

    [quote=TomZulawski]Bellajewles obviously you feel MR freedom of speech and right to her opinion is more important than millions of people’s civil rights. We understand your point and you have driven this into the ground far enough.[/quote]

    So you can continue to state your point over and over even thought it’s completely clear but because you think I’ve said enough and made my point clear I should just stop. Good to know that you think that you not only have the right to voice your opinion as many times as you want to but that you also have the right to inform me when I’ve stated my opinions enough.

    No one is saying that Melissa Reeves was right in what she was saying. And yes, I do believe that she has the right to say it. I thought you’ve said over and over again that she has the right to say it. I just think she has the right to say it without people judging her for saying something that she never actually said. But to quote you..We understand your point and you have driven this into the ground far enough.

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    hey mon

    I guess it’s just a boring debate here on DaytimeConfidential. I dont think anyone shuld be harping on Missy Reeves, and her right to do as she sees fit. I really dont agree with her that much, but I dont think anyone should be trying to hound her out of the industry.

    I dont understand the ‘gay gene’. I dont understand the ‘born that way’ argument. I understand a pre-dispositon top male/male behavior. And so, I think that what bothers me is that none of this can be talked about.

    I think there is alot of behavior in the gay community that even a good PR campaign cannot overcome, cause its a bunch of guys with hormones run amok, without the inhibitions of women to reign them in. Pride parades with near naked men on floats, advertisements for fetish behaviors, quickie sex, multiple partner sex, body worhip — all of this common.

    So Im really not sure why the cry for ‘marriage’. I know I may be driven out of the Daytime posting community, but for lack of a better phrase, I just dont see why the need. Every gay guy I know (and I have known about 10 in my life) brags about multple partners at once, or hundreds of partners. So is there a need for marriage?

    Lesbian marriage? Make it legal.

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    david46208

    @soapjunkie88: Okay a little bit of education here. Please listen.

    You are called to the witness stand to testify whether Jane Doe was at Larry’s house on Friday the 13th. All you know is that she was there. But you believe she was there because she had some issues with Larry.

    What part of this is fact? And what part of this is speculation? What part is admissible and what part is not? And why is it not admissible?

    Now MR only said she supported free speech. Some people think that she supports CFA’s message.

    Again, what part of this is fact? And what part of this is speculation? What part is admissible and what part is not? And why is it not admissible?

    I’m giving you a chance here.

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    soapjunkie88

    @david46208: You don’t need to educate me. Thanks.

    But I did listen anyway. The question then is why Melissa Reeves had to make a statement about free speech and mentioning Chick-fli-A with it?

    The fact is that Mrs. Reeves drove to the Appreciation day of Chick-fli-A. The company celebrated that day to thank supporters for their right to support gay hating groups. Is it admissible? Probably, because the case wouldn’t stand a chance in court anyway.

    If you want to make a statement about free speech. Do it!
    But bringing in a company that’s part of a publicly debate is not a smart thing to do if you don’t want to be part of it.

    It’s a situation that wasn’t handled right by her IMO. I’m all for free speech but you should look out with what you associate it with. Don’t associate free speech with hate.

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    TomZulawski

    [quote=hey mon]I guess it’s just a boring debate here on DaytimeConfidential. I dont think anyone shuld be harping on Missy Reeves, and her right to do as she sees fit. I really dont agree with her that much, but I dont think anyone should be trying to hound her out of the industry.

    I dont understand the ‘gay gene’. I dont understand the ‘born that way’ argument. I understand a pre-dispositon top male/male behavior. And so, I think that what bothers me is that none of this can be talked about.

    I think there is alot of behavior in the gay community that even a good PR campaign cannot overcome, cause its a bunch of guys with hormones run amok, without the inhibitions of women to reign them in. Pride parades with near naked men on floats, advertisements for fetish behaviors, quickie sex, multiple partner sex, body worhip — all of this common.

    So Im really not sure why the cry for ‘marriage’. I know I may be driven out of the Daytime posting community, but for lack of a better phrase, I just dont see why the need. Every gay guy I know (and I have known about 10 in my life) brags about multple partners at once, or hundreds of partners. So is there a need for marriage?

    Lesbian marriage? Make it legal.[/quote]

    Really? I mean Really? Do you want to start comparing the sexual habits of heterosexuals to homosexuals? OMG just go onto Craigslist and you can witness for yourself how beyond screwed up the heterosexual community is, I dont think anyone should be allowed to get married if that is the case. I cant tell you how many of my straight friends have divorced to to one of the other cheating with many different people, How about this, lets turn on Maury Povitch and see how many heterosexual people dont know who the father of their baby is.

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    TomZulawski

    David if I ever commit murder I want you on my jury, because I could have blood all over my hands and be holding the murder weapon but unless I tell you I did it, Im Innocent!!

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    david46208

    @soapjunkie88: No she supported free speech. You are adding to it what you want that to mean. Do you understand that you are speculating? That you are putting words in her mouth that did not come out. So again the fact is she said she supported free speech. You interpret that to mean that she supports whatever CFA stands for. That part is not fact.

    Are you getting it now?

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    david46208

    @everyone: What I see here is Cognitive dissonance in a form called “The Belief Disconfirmation Paradigm.”

    Dissonance is aroused when people are confronted with information that is inconsistent with their beliefs. If the dissonance is not reduced by changing one’s belief, the dissonance can result in misperception or rejection or refutation of the information, seeking support from others who share the beliefs, and attempting to persuade others to restore consonance.
    —-
    This hits the nail right on the head.

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    hey mon

    I guess so TomZ. I dont really see the widespread multiple partner ‘thing’ occurring in the straight community. I dont condemn anyone for the life-style they want to pursue, but I think that the ‘marriage’ concept is a hetero- and lesbian thing. Marriage is a ‘thing’ for women, by women, run by women, and dominated by women.

    If I went by the gay men that I meet, I dont see it at all. My secretary is constantly talking about his ‘threeway last night’, or trying to run off during lunch with other gay male workers to have sex. Do I judge him? No, I dont. My female secretary never talks about such things. So Im not going to sit here and drink some ‘kool aid’ thinkng that most gay males arent thinking about their next conquest. Cause they sure seem to be.

    And almost every gay guy I know is loaded, without an economic care in the world. Do I care? No.

    So, gay male civil unions, I am for it. It seems to be a good way to forward property to whomever a person wants to. Marriage is a female thing, I think it should left that way.

    Or dont I pass the litmus test?

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    soapjunkie88

    [quote=david46208]@soapjunkie88: No she supported free speech. You are adding to it what you want that to mean. Do you understand that you are speculating? That you are putting words in her mouth that did not come out. So again the fact is she said she supported free speech. You interpret that to mean that she supports whatever CFA stands for. That part is not fact.
    Are you getting it now?[/quote]

    Honestly? I don’t want to continue arguing with you. Not because I couldn’t continue this for hours but because I think to wouldn’t do much.

    I’ll only say that we all wouldn’t have a discussion and others wouldn’t feel the need to talk about this if Melissa Reeves had left Chick-fli-A out of her tweet.

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    david46208

    @TomZulawski: First the premise of your statement is loaded. As a former high school and college debate team member you learn about what a “Loaded Question” is. A loaded question is a question which contains a controversial or unjustified assumption (e.g., a presumption of guilt).

    Aside from being a logical fallacy, such questions may be used as a rhetorical tool: the question attempts to limit direct replies to be those that serve the questioner’s agenda.The traditional example is the question “Have you stopped beating your wife?” Whether the respondent answers yes or no, he will admit to having a wife, and having beaten her at some time in the past. Thus, these facts are presupposed by the question, and in this case an entrapment, because it narrows the respondent to a single answer, and the fallacy of many questions has been committed. The fallacy relies upon context for its effect: the fact that a question presupposes something does not in itself make the question fallacious. Only when some of these presuppositions are not necessarily agreed to by the person who is asked the question does the argument containing them become fallacious. Hence the same question may be loaded in one context, but not in the other.

    Thus you can also load statements or responses.

    So this is loaded:

    “David if I ever commit murder I want you on my jury, because I could have blood all over my hands and be holding the murder weapon but unless I tell you I did it, Im Innocent!!”

    This is also loaded: Anyone who gives money to CFA at the least indirectly supports the groups CFA donates to.

    I don’t deal with loaded questions or statements.

    but on the other hand, TomZulawski you’d rather have Uncle Ruckus from The Boondocks on your jury.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK4XhR0lYlE

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    TomZulawski

    Hey mon, no I understand and have experienced the same thing among gay men I’ve known. But I also know men who have been together for decades, have raised children and are monogomous. I hope if given the opportunity at a traditional marriage and general acceptance throughout the world that gay men would move closer to wanting to be in monogomous relationships. But trust me, there are many men out there capable of commient and love and they shouldn’t be denied that chance.

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    Bellajewels

    [quote=TomZulawski]Exactly Bellajewels so Im hoping we dont have to hear from you again on this subject LOL[/quote]

    Call my immature but I’m going to reply again for the simple fact that NO ONE is going to instruct me to stop speaking because they don’t want to hear what I have to say.

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    TomZulawski

    [quote=Bellajewels][quote=TomZulawski]Exactly Bellajewels so Im hoping we dont have to hear from you again on this subject LOL[/quote]

    Call my immature but I’m going to reply again for the simple fact that NO ONE is going to instruct me to stop speaking because they don’t want to hear what I have to say.[/quote]

    Bella, I’m sorry I was completely joking when I posted that, it was Getting intense I needed a laugh.

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    appleridge

    Its funny that the ones that call Gays unnatural, unwanted by god and perverts and vote aganist Human rights are the same ones who are caught in a same sex act and then play the victim. Im over this BULLSHIT. Having a same sex attraction does not make one a PERVERT, It makes one HUMAN. Running from those feelings & burying them and hiding behind the line that GOD does not approve is COWARDNESS.

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    david46208

    @TomZulawski: “David, I read your posts on Michael Fairmans site. I have a much better understanding of who you are, I have no desire to engage you.
    So I” — This is another loaded question.

    But by the way DC is the only site I post on and have visited MF’s site once to share the James Scott interview since I subscribe to their podcast on Itunes.

    Other than that I go to SON to view and share the ratings.

    So thanks! But no thanks.

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    stoney07

    I’m sooooo sick of this crap. I wish it would really go away because its frustrating.

    Who knows what MR meant by her comment? Who is to say that she KNEW that CFA supported these “hate groups” as they are being called. Who is to say that she had any idea. If she DIDN’T know, then what makes her any different from anyone else in this thread?

    I’m assuming I’m not the only one that has eaten at CFA. I’m sure when some found out about how CFA spends some of their money, maybe they stopped going, but in the end, WE ALL have indirectly donated money to those groups, because we have eaten at CFA. So yeah, she said what she said, my bae Greg Rikaart said what he said, now back to the soaps…geesh…I hate this.

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    david46208

    @TomZulawski:The David in MF post is not me. We’re not even friends but I can see the David you are talking about. And by the way his FB page (MF) is open to be viewed. So you did exactly what you did to MR to me. You saw a black man’s face named David and assumed it was me. This is part of your problem. You draw conclusions with no basis in fact.

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    appleridge

    Being molested doesnt make you gay. That is a hateful streotype used to spread hate aganist Gays. And never use the Catholic church as a refrence again. Yeah lets look up to them who allowed priests to molest altar boys and did noithing but moving them to other churches. Yeah thats the moral compass but Gays are evil and unnatural., . Sorry molestion is unnatural. Love between same sex and opposite sex is natural. Get your facts right.

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    david46208

    @appleridge/TomZulawski: You and have proven my point 5 times over now. Thanks for being you. Just what was done now is what has been going on all along. Thanks!

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    tealita

    It’s a little bit late for me to be wading into this argument, but nevertheless, here’s what I think: Melissa Reeves is of course, free to do or say anything that she wants. But if I were she, and knowing that not only do I work in an industry that is heavily populated by the Gay and Lesbian community, but that also a large percentage of my fans are gay–and since it’s also my right to keep my damn mouth shut–I would have done just that. I would have kept my employed piehole shut. I think I probably would have bought an ice cream cone instead. Or read a novel. Or took a nap. But that’s just me.

    But she didn’t. And argue as you might about the “real” meaning of her words, the fact is that obviously, she felt her opinion mattered. She was compelled to speak. And nowhere in her words, did I hear her support for the Gay and lesbian community.

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    spunkydragonfly

    I agree that everyone is free to their believes, but what this company is funding is hate and hate should not be rewarded. If it is, then it just continues. Doesn’t it? People should freely believe in what they choose, but actively funding something labeled as “anti” against other human beings for simply living their lives and loving who they choose is wrong. I like Missy Reeves, but supporting a company that uses it profits to create hate is not what the world needs.

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    EastWest

    So much I want to say about this, but I’ll keep it brief b/c the pissing match I am seeing just proves what I think about all of this. People ain’t shit and will continue to not be shit.

    That is all.

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    Bellajewels

    [quote=TomZulawski][quote=Bellajewels][quote=TomZulawski]Exactly Bellajewels so Im hoping we dont have to hear from you again on this subject LOL[/quote]

    Call my immature but I’m going to reply again for the simple fact that NO ONE is going to instruct me to stop speaking because they don’t want to hear what I have to say.[/quote]

    Bella, I’m sorry I was completely joking when I posted that, it was Getting intense I needed a laugh.[/quote]

    Good, I’m glad. And I hope my childish reaction gave you a chuckle as well. I get a little hot under the collar at times and I lose my sense of humor a bit.

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    nellie-claire

    Really, Melissa Reeves loved every bite? Melissa Reeves doesn’t look like she eats anything, let alone loving every bite!
    I’m sorry; I couldn’t resist the thought. I do believe that everyone is entitled to the freedom of saying what is on their mind but this is not the issue here. The issue is that a large number of American citizens are being denied their civil rights because of their sexual and romantic preferences and this is wrong! I don’t think that anyone can fully appreciate what this means until you have been a party to or witnessed firsthand the separate and NOT equal rules that apply to non-heterosexual people. These are things that so many of us take for granted on a daily basis. These are rights and civil liberties that so many of us cannot even fathom not having. Yet, if you are Gay or Lesbian you are denied these privileges daily. Imagine for a moment what it would be like if your spouse was sick in the hospital and the doctor was not allowed to speak with you or you were excluded from participating in any decision making regarding your spouse’s treatment. If you are a heterosexual spouse, you are considered to be Next of Kin, if you are a gay spouse, you are nothing.
    I could go on and on. Does Melissa Reeves have the right to say whatever she wants to? Absolutely, but EVERYONE should be able to enjoy the other civil rights and liberties that Melissa enjoys as well.

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    hey mon

    I hope that when DAYS gets back on the air, that we can all get back to talking about Daytime.

    This is really divisive, and I dont think that Gay Marriage should be a Litmus Test against dsicrimination for homosexuals. Some of us agree with a full pantheon of civil rights for homosexuals, but may not agree with Gay Marriage. A magazine such as the Advocate is simply doing their job, and militarizing a protest against specific actress, which I believe is wrong.

    It is really time to move on so that we can familiarize people with DAYS, and the fact that Kristen DiMera is coming back.

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    hey mon

    appleridge, and anyone else…

    I think that you are trying to force people too far, too fast. You may view it as a civil right, but I don’t. My Latino people still have nothing after decades in the United States. We are economically oppressed, period. When people talk about allowing Hispanics to stay in America along the US’s southern border, it is inferred that we are ‘great gardeners’, so why not let us stay? To the point, we are very much discriminated against.

    So gay men can’t get married? It is simply not that big of a deal. Civil unions can ‘do the trick’. Marriage is a life-time commitment that involve women, or a woman and a man, I truly believe that. I do not believe that two men have it within them to be monogamous, so I dont see the need.

    Take the caption article of sleepy Will and Sonny from 2 weeks ago. It took all of about an hour for the topic to get to hard-core gay porn. It took all of another hour to get it to hard-core fetish porn. So lets not get into this argument that there are millions of committeed two-men couples who want to marry.

    I dont want the issue of civil rights for Hispanics and African-Americans to get diluted with a group of people who are NOT econimically oppressed, gay men.

    Maybe Im too old-fashioned for this issue. But if Im old-fashioned, then the Gay Marriage Movement is moving too fast. Cause Im considered way too non-traditional of gay/lesbian issues by my family, my in-laws, my friends, and even my kids. Simply put, I am considered too ‘gay tolerant’, too ‘gay friendly’ by them.

    I think this Missy Reeves ‘thing’ by the Advocate is causing a type of backlash.

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    TomZulawski

    Hey Mon, I’m so sorry the gay and lesbian communities timing for equal rights isn’t working out with your acceptance schedule. Just let millions of people know when you and your family feel comfortable and they can shelve the whole gay marriage thing until you are ready. In the meantime, I’ll work on my acceptance of Latinos.

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    hey mon

    I guess we all have to do perform some soul-searching here…

    The Advocate magazine coming after Missy Reeves for what I see as a free speech issue, has got me thinking. It’s very interesting to think about. Is Gay and Lesbian Rights a civil right to the level that African-American, Native American, and Hispanic Rights are?

    I guess the answer for me is ‘no’. So if I’m having a ‘hard time’ with this issue, what kind of quandry is the rest of America in? If, as I said, my community of friends considers me a total ‘liberal’ (for lack of a better word) supporter of homosexual rights, and I am having a vexing problem with the whole thing? What does the rest of my community think?

    It’s the whole nature of males, and the concept of male/male interaction.

    How the whole male/male interaction seems to always lead to the talk of gay male hard core porn. How the gay ‘couple’ who live across the street from me and my family aren’t at all monogamous, have men half their age parading in and out, and cat-call my 20-yr old son. Why does my secretary have this crazy desire to engage in what I would call risky behavioral sex lately, with different men, and in 3-ways with 2 other men. Why do I have to listen to him talk about it with the other female secretaries?

    This is what our society is going to become?

    It really makes me think…

    Well, this is my last comment on this issue. I dont want to get banned or something. But this whole trashing of Melissa Reeves has pushed me, for lack of a better word, more ‘conservatively’.

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