HomeTVGeneral HospitalCTD Chief on Jeff Probst vs. Rival’s $80 Million Dollar ‘Kate’: “I Think Disney-ABC Cut a Bad Deal” Jamey Giddens August 14, 2012 22 Comments Brrr, it's cold in here. There must be some TV execs trying to pimp their new vehicles in the atmosphere! In a new Broadcasting and Cable article previewing how CBS Television Distribution (CTD) hopes new blood will help the division stay on top of the syndication game—in daytime (Jeff Probst) and in primetime (Arsenio)—CTD President John Nogawski threw major shade at rival Disney-ABC's upcoming chatfest Katie. When discussing how much it is going to cost to produce and promote CTD's fall 2012 offering Jeff Probst—$30 million ($24M to produce and $6M to promote), the reporter compared Probst's numerics to that of Katie Couric's upcoming self-titled talker, which will cost a whopping $80 million dollars to get off the air! Here's what Nogawski had to say about his competitor's pricey gamble: "I think [Disney-AC cut a bad deal." he says. "They did get very large license fees, but the majority of those license fees are attributed to ABC's owned-and-operated stations. [Katie] is going to have to do a very large number for them to make money." If it's one think Nogawski knows about, it's making money in syndication. CTD distributes top-rated fare such as Judge Judy, Dr. Phil, Wheel of Fourtune, Jeopardy and Entertainment Tonight among others. On the other hand, CTD could still be a little salty that they had to pass on Katie, due to the project's hefty asking price. Do you think Katie will prove worth the gamble for the Mouse House's syndication arm? Sound off in the comments! 22 Responses Paula Kate August 15, 2012 Katie is yet another boring talker that soap viewers in the multi-millions will avoid like the plague. Log in to Reply Edna Barefoot August 15, 2012 Sorry ABC but hope you can write your losses off your taxes because Katie willo not have the viewers any more than GAA. GH at 2pm followed by Katie is not 2pm OLTL & 3pm GH. As the #1 fan of OLTL nothing will be followed by us til OLTL is back on. The soap fans cannot be TRAINED. Someone had better TRAIN ABC execs or they will continue to fail. Boycott continues!! Log in to Reply AlexGraham August 15, 2012 ABC has destroyed two of the best vintage soaps to have ever existed. Not one day passes when I am not in mourning over my beloved families of Llanview and Pine Valley. I will continue to support GH as I want to see the soap genre survive. I will NOT be watching ANYTHING else, though will take note of the sponsors so they too will be boycott. You can’t just throw away 80+ yrs. of history for this garbage. Katie (what’s her face) is destined to fail! Any and EVERY show you cancel and replace will sink like the Titanic. You once had a LOYAL fan base and you could get us back. You could return OLTL to our screens or give Agnes Nixon her shows back! ABC / Disney …. boycott … all but GH. I hope Brian Frons is getting his long overdue karma. ABC, YOU have gone too far! We will NOT watch or support anything you shell out … especially your sponsors. Please take this into consideration as you watch Katie get “Chew”ed up and spit out. Your one-time viewers ARE the “Revolution”. You are just the trolls that took away generations of fond momories and devotion. Log in to Reply thecourt99 August 15, 2012 He may be throwing shade, but he knows of what he speaks. I will be shocked and surprised if Katie turns out to be worth all of the money and hassle. Log in to Reply katclaws August 15, 2012 [quote=AlexGraham]ABC has destroyed two of the best vintage soaps to have ever existed. Not one day passes when I am not in mourning over my beloved families of Llanview and Pine Valley. I will continue to support GH as I want to see the soap genre survive. I will NOT be watching ANYTHING else, though will take note of the sponsors so they too will be boycott. You can’t just throw away 80+ yrs. of history for this garbage. Katie (what’s her face) is destined to fail! Any and EVERY show you cancel and replace will sink like the Titanic. You once had a LOYAL fan base and you could get us back. You could return OLTL to our screens or give Agnes Nixon her shows back! ABC / Disney …. boycott … all but GH. I hope Brian Frons is getting his long overdue karma. ABC, YOU have gone too far! We will NOT watch or support anything you shell out … especially your sponsors. Please take this into consideration as you watch Katie get “Chew”ed up and spit out. Your one-time viewers ARE the “Revolution”. You are just the trolls that took away generations of fond momories and devotion.[/quote] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ So Well Said, ICAM There is NO way I will support ANY of abc DAYTIME programming except for GH these days. The way TIIC at Disney & abc (yeah, you, FRONS–look in the mirror) screwed over the loyal fans was disrespectful & shameful. Hell, the way they treated the Veteran actors was disgraceful as well. They are reaping what they sowed. Let them burn. JMHO, but Katie C. will go down in flames. Log in to Reply larkin August 15, 2012 ABC blamed the production costs as the reason for cancelling AMC and OLTL. $80 million for a talk show…really!? Log in to Reply Spins Vixenella August 15, 2012 Thank you Jamey for sharing this article! I cannot even begin to tell you how ANGRY the information in this article makes me! By my own very rough calculations, I predicted early on Katie was going to cost MORE THAN ANY ABC SOAP, and sure enough here’s the hard proof of that! For the $80 MILLION DOLLARS it is costing to launch Katie we could have had nearly TWO OLTL’s. From what I understand AMC cost just under $60 Million a year; OLTL cost roughly $45 Million a year, and GH just over $60 Million a year. So, NOW what do all those people who believed the LIES ABC told about how much cheaper talk & reality is to produce versus the soaps have to say? Like Fraiser Crane, “I’m listening…” Log in to Reply pebby16 August 15, 2012 I am quite confident that Katie will fail just as the Revolution did and the Chew is about to…I cannot imagine that a show that costs as much as Katie is proposed to will make money. Another big “F” for the ABC network.Bring back AMC and OLTL! Log in to Reply moshane58 August 15, 2012 We lost soaps because they said they where to expensive.Both soaps together didn’t cost this much.This shows you all these networks are just lazy and want shows with less product.Television isn’t about entertaining anymore its about how to make the easest buck.Don’t know where all these talk shows are gonna be profitable.Who cares to watch all these talking bout the same thing all day long.I don’t know what there’s left to talk about.We done heard it all the first hour in the morning.People want soaps.They leave cliffhangers everyday wanting you to come back.they have ungoing story to keep your interest.Why don’t we talk about age discremination on ratings and outdated Neilsen.We know millions more watch soap but alot are not allowed to be counted.Where to old after 49.Someone bring back our lost soaps and count the real audiences they would see there are millions watching that aren’t even counted.I think this is pretty stupid for networks to ignore the biggest veiwers and the biggest spenders.Hopefully someone will come up with an age discremination suite and stop all this crap.Gets the shows back and see how big your audiences really was.Of course we know you all know its higher on soaps. Log in to Reply Xanna Don't August 15, 2012 The bad decisions at ABC are staggering. Log in to Reply nmelman August 15, 2012 This whole situation is just getting worse everyday. $80 million to pay Katie that very well might not make it. Why would ABC not live in a world of reality. This is just utter nonsense. She will not make in on ABC. Maybe the other networks but ABC and her are doomed before they start. Quite frankly all your stupid talk shows, except Ellen are the worst of the worst. I will not watch anymore talk, news, or reality. We have choices. Log in to Reply carol c August 15, 2012 I think it’s absurd that so much money has been invested in a woman who has been there and done that. She hasn’t been successful on the other Networks and she won’t be on ABC either. Her price tag came at the expense of a wonderful soap opera – One Life To Live – loss of jobs of hundreds of people and many many loyal fans. This is a decision that ABC will definitely regret. Log in to Reply SwanQueen59 August 15, 2012 I still don’t understand why this particular woman was deemed worthy to be paid $8 million a year to sit and read a teleprompter during her last years at the Today Show. Well, okay, when she was still with NBC she had to get up off her a** to participate in some pseudo Oylmpic presentations, but hey, even I could have done what she was required to do. (Classical dance training comes in handy here and there. ;)) I understand the concept of “fair market value”, but just about anything that I’ve seen from her doesn’t show me anything of “value”. But that’s me… 0:) Log in to Reply jen74 August 15, 2012 Katie is going to be on at the same time as Ellen. I know that given the choice between GH and Ellen….GH won every time. Given the choice of a talk show or a talk show….thinking Ellen will win that battle in my home. At least she is funny. Log in to Reply dayzie August 15, 2012 My thoughts exactly. I don’t need a crystal ball to see the future of this show…it will bomb just like the Revolution and GAA, especially if us soap fans have anything to say about it! They cannot just erase the 31 years I spent watching AMC and OLTL. My brain was trained since birth to watch soaps, and nothing can replace them. It just shocks me that they actually wasted $80 million to put on another piece of crap talk show, just to spite us. And that’s how it feels…like they’re purposely angering us with their terrible programming, instead of just sucking it up and admitting they failed when they cancelled our iconic shows. Log in to Reply DaytimeFan0001 August 15, 2012 I cant stand fake people, and Katie is – FAKE Log in to Reply Transfigurationjc August 16, 2012 I for one will give Katie a chance though I do think 80 million is a bit much. I’m so tired of soapers blaming people trying to do their jobs for ABC’s decision to give their soaps the ax. I’ve always liked Katie and if her show is good I’ll watch it. AMC and OLTL ran their course. AMC lost it’s shine somewhere in the 80s and Cartini turned One Life into an implausible cartoon. I dont miss either one. Time to move on. Log in to Reply amustang1990 August 16, 2012 My choice to not watch any programming on ABC except for General Hospital will continue! AMC and OLTL should be brought back instead of these talk shows that ABC decided we wanted watch. I want the Martins and the Cramer women back. My “stories” kept me coming back every weekday and they are what keep me away from these forced upon me talk shows. And I did move on. Directv gives me a wide variety of channels to move on to and I am not watching any ABC replacement shows! I will not watch Katie, The Chew, GAA, etc. ever! Will ABC wise up when Katie fails too? Doubtful, but this soap fan can only hope! Bring back AMC and OLTL! Log in to Reply doveydiane August 16, 2012 Unfortunately, I think “Katie” will tank. I, along with hundreds of thousands of soap fans, am boycotting ABC/Disney with the exception of General Hospital. When GH ends, I’m going to be switching channels or turning off the Tv. I hate to do that because I really like Katie Couric but I can’t stop boycotting ABC now. I’m missing several shows I really liked, such as, DWTS, Revenge, Regis & Kelly. I miss Regis but can’t believe they’re paying Kelly over 20 million a year but let the soaps go. ABC has just gone CRAZY. They really and truly angered their loyal soap fans and didn’t even feel remorse. In the beginning that made stupid comments about how the fans “will get over it” and “we’ll watch whatever they give us”. NO way !!! All the afternoon replacement shows are slowly tanking… one by one. I know I can boycott them indefinitely. Log in to Reply CTwildheart August 16, 2012 1 Log in to Reply CTwildheart August 16, 2012 In response to Transfigurationjc: I am not blaming Katie for the cancellation of the soaps. Nor the Chew or the Revolution or Good Afternoon America. I do blame the management because they made poor decisions (just my opinion). I agree that AMC lost some of its shine – but that is because ABC/D decided they wanted out of the soap business and allowed (encouraged even) the decimation of characters and poor storylines. This resulted in a decline in viewers, which gave them a plausible ‘reason’ to cancel. They hired writers who gave lackluster plots. You must have stopped watching OLTL in 2010 – because Cartini had them under-budget and had ratings higher than General Hospital at the end. Those storylines had most of us on the edge of our seat with a tissue in hand. You are one of the few who do not miss either one. I have no problem with Katie or her show – I just have no desire to watch it. Many of us are tired of talk/reality/information programming. Log in to Reply nmelman August 29, 2012 What a complete and total joke. I am not laughing. ABC spends 80 million and then cries poverty. We are not that stupid. ABC has purposely destroyed daytime and in the process hung themselves out to dry. No one will watch Katie, just like no one watches any of ABC’s replacement shows. The Chew, I would rather watch the food network. Anne Sweeney needs to be fired along with Paul Lee and Vicki Drummer. They are nothing but a bunch of high paid idiots. I will never watch ABC again except GH which by the way is the only great show they have on the air. Log in to Reply Leave a Reply Cancel Reply You must be logged in to post a comment.