RUMOR REPORT: Billy Miller and Michael Graziadei LEAVING Young and Restless — on Their Own Terms!





While most of the late-breaking casting news out of Genoa City has had women exiting stage left. I'm hearing two dudes are thisclose to making good on long-rumored plans to leave The Young and the Restless. Both Billy Miller (Billy) and Michael Graziadei (Daniel) have decided not to renew their contracts, according to multiple sources.

"These guys made their decisions to leave before Jill [Farren Phelps] and Josh [Griffith] came onboard," says one setsider. "This isn't part of the bloodbath."

The two popular actors have been booking a slew of gigs in primetime in recent years. Daytime Emmy winner Miller, who has played Abbott bad boy Billy since 2008, had an integral role in The CW's short-lived Sarah Michelle Gellar vehicle Ringer. He also starred in the recent, high profile Lifetime movie Fatal Honeymoon.

Graziadei, who reportedly only signed a six-month extension of his last contract at Y&R, appeared in recurring roles on both The CW's The Secret Circle and FX's American Horror Story. He has been playing the role of Phyllis Summers' (Michelle Stafford) son Daniel on Y&R since 2004.

Photo of Billy Miller by PR Photos

89 Responses

  1. Avatar of Yoryla
    Yoryla

    Well well.

    So FOUR WOMEN get fired and these two guys leave on their own terms?

    The Graz should have left a long time ago. Sad for Billy Miller leaving, but it isn’t any wonder. He belongs in primetime, he can do so much better than a soap.

  2. Avatar of scrumptious
    scrumptious

    I’m amazed The Graz stuck around this long. He lands so much primetime work. Always so busy, booking plenty of outside gigs. He is truly a working actor.

    The Graz was fantastic on “American Horror Story”. I’ve been expecting him to leave for years. I think he’ll do great — just like Bethel Wilson and Lyndsy Fonseca. Their careers soared after Y&R.

    Michael Graziadei is, by far, the most talented young actor on the show.

  3. Avatar of RealisticViewer
    RealisticViewer

    This is not good news. All of these characters leaving at once does not bode well for the show. Changes need to be done slowly so that the essence of the soap is not lost. Replacements take a long time to be accepted. We viewers love continuity, that is one of the reasons we are addicted to soaps. This is scary news because I want Y&R to be on for a very long time. How can the ratings stay up if so many characters leave at once?

  4. Avatar of stefanstavros
    stefanstavros

    I’m happy for MG because I’ve always liked him and he’s so good looking, too. Billy Miller leaving suits me just fine cause I’ve never really liked him. Maybe AH will depart with him??

  5. Avatar of richalan67
    richalan67

    Sorry to see Bm leave. MG is no big deal. He has morphed into a very greasy looking actor. Cut the hair for goodness sake. The character actually drives me to the point of FF when he is on.

  6. Avatar of tamcin
    tamcin

    I think we need an emergency podcast. This makes me think of the bloodbaths at DOOL when we lost Diedre, Drake, Theo, Marybeth and Stephen in quick succession a few year ago. Not saying that some of these people don’t need to go but hopefully not to make room for James Franco. Shudder….

  7. Avatar of angrierblackerman
    angrierblackerman

    They both should have been gone. They see the writing on the wall…they are probably going to try and get work in a more stable industry. Best of luck to them. I don’t want to hear budget cuts as a reason when JFP fires Kristoff St. John (it’s coming, watch…).

  8. Avatar of jcrenny
    jcrenny

    Well damn. I saw it coming but I was in denial.

    I like how JFP said that the Abbotts will become more focuses again. That is kind of difficult when there is only ONE ABBOTT ON THE SCREEN.

    And I guess this really IS the end of Villy.

    Lame.

    If they recast Victoria… I’M OUT.

  9. Avatar of scrumptious
    scrumptious

    Graz & Miller are in their 30′s already. If they want to make it in prime time, they need to make a move before they get too old — or else they risk being typecast as soap actors. Besides, they’re not getting any younger. They spent their 20′s in soaps, do they really want to waste the prime years of their 30′s in soaps too? I think not! Especially if they are booking other jobs. Strike while the iron is hot! If they hang around a few more years, they’ll be pushing 40, and run out of other options & opportunities.

    Eva Longoria, Shemar Moore, Eddie Cibrian… they all went on to do bigger and better things. And they left before they were 30!

  10. Avatar of Soap_Stud
    Soap_Stud

    Both of these actors owe it to themselves to go out and try to get work outside of daytime. THey have both had some success outside of Y&R already. I think, down the road, both roles could be recast.

  11. Avatar of marybee50
    marybee50

    Best wishes to both.I will miss both.Probably Billy will leave when Victoria finds he has been hiding daddy dearest.As for MG,he probablt stayed on Y&R for a steady paycheck.He got the chance to do other things,while still knowing he had an income.Now,he knows he can get other roles,and figures it’s time to leave.

  12. Avatar of sanka9
    sanka9

    [quote=stefanstavros]I’m happy for MG because I’ve always liked him and he’s so good looking, too. Billy Miller leaving suits me just fine cause I’ve never really liked him. Maybe AH will depart with him??[/quote]

    I dont know why MG has stayed so long but he should’ve cut ties with YR a long time ago. ITA about BM – his leaving will suit me just fine since Villy i can barely stand the character of Billy.

  13. Avatar of ChristianDavis148
    ChristianDavis148

    Sad to see Billy Miller go and I had Michael Graz on my list of people that JFP should fire but as we now know, Michael decided to leave on his own accord. I think the last time we will see him will be at the conclusion or shortly thereafter of Phyllis’ trial. I also suspect that he will take Lucy with him as well. And with the rumor report of Jennifer Landon (Heather Stevens) being cut, it would be nice to send those two off screen together to raise baby Lucy. At this juncture, recasting the role of Heather……..again would be ill advised. Jennifer Landon is now the 3rd actress to play the role and she had a much better handle on the character than Eden Reigel did. While Jennifer didn’t play her like the sexy vixen that Vail Bloom did when she came on to the show, she showed Heather’s soft side while at the same time showing her tough side, especially during interrogation scenes. Vail Bloom never did get to do interrogation scenes, much less see the inside of a court room, at least not my recollection.

    So, do not recast Heather. Recast Billy Abbott and I would leave Daniel off-screen for about 6 months to a year before recasting. He’s NOT that important to the canvas that is Y&R and I suspect that Josh Griffith will be having Phyllis on the back burner for an undetermined amount of time after her trial that having Daniel around would be a waste of monetary resources that Jill Farren Phelps could use to update the sets and stuff.

    JMO!

  14. Avatar of jcrenny
    jcrenny

    I agree ChristianDavis148

    I see Daniel and Heather running off into the sunset together with Lucy. I can see them coming back eventually — married with a kid of their own (with new faces, of course).

    Billy Abbott is needed on scene. He will be recast. I guess the big question will be if they keep him married to Victoria or not. Villy are insanely popular. I can see them breaking up for a bet as they try to find someone with chemistry with PB and AH.

    Y&R has really pimped Villy as their new *IT* couple, so that alone makes me think they will want to figure out how to make it work with the new person.

    I also suspect that a NuAbby will come back looking like the rest of the Newmans heirs — light eyes, dark hair. Nick, Victoria, and Adam all looked like siblings. Abby did not. That will be fixed.

  15. Avatar of snizzle
    snizzle

    It’s probably a good thing for both actors to leave while they are still young enough to pursue other projects. As we know daytime soaps are a dying breed and it’s not a good idea to get typecast on a genre that is dying out. I got a vibe from MG the past few years that he was ‘too cool for school’ anyway.

    It does seem a bit unfair that the actresses are getting pink slipped while the actors are leaving on their own. I suppose that’s the way it goes in Jill’s world.

  16. Avatar of ChristianDavis148
    ChristianDavis148

    [quote=jcrenny]I agree ChristianDavis148 I also suspect that a NuAbby will come back looking like the rest of the Newmans heirs — light eyes, dark hair. Nick, Victoria, and Adam all looked like siblings. Abby did not. That will be fixed.[/quote]

    Here is what I’d love for JFP to do:

    DE-SORAS Abby, Kyle, Fen and Summer. MAB stupidly SORAS’ed all of these characters waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too soon. For one thing, Kyle is older than Abby and yet Abby gets SORAS’ed before Kyle does. Kyle went from a 10 year old to a 21 year old in the span of two months, which tells me that MAB is stupider than a doorknob! As for Fen and Summer, they need to hire younger actors/actresses for both of those roles. They were SORAS’d too soon.

  17. Avatar of ChrisGa
    ChrisGa

    Frankly, neither of these exits bother me. They’re both great actors–though I’ll say Miller is highly overrated and Graziadei highly underrated–but I’ve never been a Billy fan and Daniel has been rudderless since Amber left (I think Daniel peaked with Lily and they ruined him a little sticking him with world’s-oldest-teen Amber). Miller’s exit, however, will indeed throw a wrench into the Villy situation; the miniscule scraps of goodwill that Amelia Heinle actually manages to get from viewers are almost excusively tied to that pairing. With all the cuts and exits going on, maybe now’s the time to pull the trigger and recast Victoria.

  18. Avatar of harlee490
    harlee490

    I wish both much success but MG & BM, but Daniel has been just floating and no real story time for a break. MAB had a lost opportunity to revisit Daniel/Lily and keep Cane DEAD. Lane fans are not true lover of Y&R as a whole show but their agenda for Lane…I’m a fan of the whole show and all characters! |( They need to recast Billy w\Josh Kelly. No surprise about Heather, I love JL and like her portrayal best but too many recast after recast became to much to handle.

    SB isn’t going come on here as Billy Abbott! Please NO!

  19. Avatar of SoapArmageddon
    SoapArmageddon

    How are all these people going to be written out at once? Is there going to be a Clear Springs-type of disaster in Genoa City?

    There still haven’t been any cast cuts or exits that I find truly upsetting. Both these guys can act but the show will be fine without them. They really should have Victoria leave with Billy, wait a couple of months, and then have her return, being played by a better actress.

    I am going to start attending church again just to pray and light candles for Steve Burton not to get cast on Y&R. I had my fill of him on GH.

  20. Avatar of Yoryla
    Yoryla

    I don’t understand how many people can wish for recasts. IMO recasting should always be the LAST choice. If they need more characters, invent new (viable) ones so an actor can leave their mark on it.

    No single character is that important that just that particular character has to be on the show. Who says Victoria has to be there? Victor has two other children who most likely will stay on.

    For instance, Heather, they can’t possibly recast her again – that would be the fourth actress. No way.

  21. Avatar of jphelps
    jphelps

    Graz may be a good actor but Daniel has been a pretty useless character for a while. I think letting the character rest for a time until they can figure out what to do with him is a good idea and bring him back with someone who’s committed to the show. I feel Abby leaving is a good idea because they clearly don’t know what to do with her either.

    As for miller, I’m sure it was his choice just like it was Jonathan Jaxksons choice when he left GH only not. I think what’s happening is with 4 soaps left and utterly thousands of talented cheaper actors available, there is no reason for these shows to go out of their ways to cater to folks who have one foot out the door already. Billy can be recast easily, he has been. Send him off for a while when BM leaves and bring him back with a new face in a few months. I don’t know how anyone can say Miller leaving is so damaging when he’s. been off canvas so much the past 2 years as its been. Soaps are an ensemble. OT a showcase for so called super actors. It’s time these shows start remembering that.

  22. Avatar of jcrenny
    jcrenny

    [quote=ChristianDavis148]Here is what I’d love for JFP to do:
    DE-SORAS Abby, Kyle, Fen and Summer. MAB stupidly SORAS’ed all of these characters waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too soon. For one thing, Kyle is older than Abby and yet Abby gets SORAS’ed before Kyle does. Kyle went from a 10 year old to a 21 year old in the span of two months, which tells me that MAB is stupider than a doorknob! As for Fen and Summer, they need to hire younger actors/actresses for both of those roles. They were SORAS’d too soon.[/quote]

    Kyle isn’t older than Abby. Abby was born a few months before him. They are the same age.

    At this point I don’t even mind that Kyle and Abby have been made older. It is believable since their parents are older. And there is potential SL with them in the early 20s crowd.

    Summer? She shouldn’t have been SORAS’d so soon. It really is unrealistic that Nick Newman has a 20+ year old son and a 15 year old daughter. I wish they would fix that.

    Fen could be a teenager. Lauren and Michael are both in their late 40s/early 50s and that is believable. We do need teens on this show. Just not unrealistic rushed ones.

  23. Avatar of jcrenny
    jcrenny

    [quote=Yoryla] Who says Victoria has to be there? Victor has two other children who most likely will stay on. [/quote]

    Seriously? No offense but Victoria is will always be Victor’s true heir. They have made that perfectly clear since the day the girl was born. Yes Adam is manipulative like him, Nick is his first born son, and Abby is a spoiled princess — yada yada. But make no mistake Victoria Nicole Newman was raised to take over.

    It seems a little harder now that Amelia Henle is in the role and is so drastically different from Heather Tom, but it is what it is. This is why Victor is the hardest on her. This is why he is always going on and one about how SHE would be by HIS side at the end.

    Victoria is destined to take over. When HT left the show scrambled for years to find a replacement because her presence was a serious lack on the show. She in many ways is the heart of the Newmans.

    I wish they would get back to that.

  24. Avatar of dkp
    dkp

    Glad for the Graz. I’ve never liked Daniel anyways.

    Sad about Billy Miller, but he never seems to be around, always off to book new gigs, we need someone committed to the role. Maybe we can also finally get a Victoria recast?

    But with Abby gone, Billy leaving, and actor who plays Kyle booking a recurring gig on Vampire Diaries, and Ashley already, how exactly is this bringing new life to the Abbotts? Jack will be the only Abbott left. Hopefully they plan on recasting some of these roles.

  25. Avatar of alstonboy4315
    alstonboy4315

    According to Michael Bruno, any actor over the age of 25, with few exceptions is already too “old” to SUCCESSFULLY transition from soaps into primetime and film. But I never believed that tomfoolery. After all, look at Cynthia Watros and Wendy Moniz. They transitioned and were past this “golden age.”

    I will miss both of these men. Michael G. is certified eye candy and a good actor, once you manage to look past those ridiculous hairdos…

    And Billy Miller is one of the best things to happen to this show in a long time. He infuses it with humor and makes Amelia Heinous tolerable. Speaking of Amelia Heinous, can she leave with him………..please? I hope that Kill Farren Phelps can accomplish what Jack Smith, Lynn Latham and Maria Bell were afraid to do and RECAST Tricktoria Newman with a CAPABLE actress. I hate to see ANYONE out of a job in this economy, but I am sure that if push comes to shove, Michael Weatherly will throw some money her way. After all, they do have a child together………..

    Okay, I have gotten my bitchiness out of the way for the day. Off to the mall………..

  26. Avatar of soapjunkie88
    soapjunkie88

    My first reaction was: Only one Abbott standing! Then I thought again and forgot that next to Jack we would still have Kyle.^^

    Well has been coming for a very long time. Billy Miller just needs to be in primetime. No doubt about that. I can’t think of a Billy Abbott recast and would feel like post-David Tom all over again.

    Michael Graziadei’s last good storyline was Daniel’s love story with Amber. IMO Michael should have left with Adrienne Frantz and since Amber’s B&B return was one big disappointment I would say that this should have been undone too.

  27. Avatar of yojoromo4469
    yojoromo4469

    [quote=richalan67]Sorry to see Bm leave. MG is no big deal. He has morphed into a very greasy looking actor. Cut the hair for goodness sake. The character actually drives me to the point of FF when he is on.[/quote]

    I am an old guy that has watched Y and R forever. Like you though, I will not miss MG as Daniel. I have super long hair and a beard, but if I had Daniel’s dirty look I would definitely clean up. The, what appear to be stick on tatoos do absolutely nothing for him either. I really like Billy Miller and think he and Amelie Heinle are great together. I may have misspelled her name. The ones I would really like to see gone, will evidently hang in there.

  28. Avatar of RedChair
    RedChair

    As a long-time viewer, it bemuses me to see how many of you assume that Victor and Nikki embody Y&R. When I started watching in ’76/’77, the core families were the Prentices and the Fosters, with Kay Chancellor the lead barracuda. And we never thought they’d be replaced. The Abbotts and Newmans were declasse compared to the Prentices.

    I’d like to see Victor killed on the docks, with Nikki taking on Kay’s role when Jeanne Cooper finally retires. (Come on… how long can she keep going?)Keep Jack, and his machinations, but against his step-children. I’d like to see him literally dance on Victor’s grave, then have to fight the descendants who end up being nastier. Then throw Kyle in the mix, and you have DALLASesque drama. Sagas are intended to be multi-generational, but eventually actually kill off matriarchs and patriarchs. Hasn’t anyone ever watched the original FORSYTE SAGA? That’s a good start right there.

    And I’d really love to see Lorrie Prentice come back and start throwing her millions/billions into the mix. She is one of the few women to get the best of Victor by getting her company back. Now, THAT could bring us back to both the past essence of Y&R, with the next generations in the mix.

    And also, in the early ’80s, Nikki’s role was back-burner to her sister Casey until she got involved with Greg Foster and then Paul Williams… L-O-N-G before Victor impregnated her, despite his vasectomy. And why doesn’t Nikki suffer more psychological trouble from killing her father, killing her playmate, and killing her rival? I went through more trauma losing a job.

    Perhaps the thing we tend to forget about soaps is how organic they are and they can survive anything but corporate and creative neglect. Good stories with addictive characters are the key, not just our current favourites.

    I know I’m just blowing smoke, but while I like both Miller and Graziati, they nor their families are crucial to the mix. I guess a lot of you forget that Phyllis wasn’t always there, either, and was played by another actress between Stafford’s tenures.

    So, Ms. Phelps, come in and give Genoa City the enema it deserves. You cannot do worse, and if some favourites get the heave-ho, so be it. Just get some good writing in there and we’ll stick with you. To threaten to leave because a single favourite character is gone says what about how one spends time when the others are on screen.

    Michael from redCHAIRdiaries on youtube

  29. Avatar of Nk3play2
    Nk3play2

    I remember a few years ago, Y&R was the soap everybody wanted to run to to save their career… now it seems everyone is running away!!! Is it safe to say, Jill Farren “Phuck Up” is in full effect right now!!!

    While I would really enjoy a podcast right now… I think we’ll get an emergency podcast when someone really major is let go, probably a Nikki, Victor, Nicholas, Sharon, Phyllis, Katherine, or Jill (if she isn’t gone already)!!!

  30. Avatar of Yoryla
    Yoryla

    [quote=jcrenny]
    Victoria is destined to take over. When HT left the show scrambled for years to find a replacement because her presence was a serious lack on the show. She in many ways is the heart of the Newmans. I wish they would get back to that.[/quote]

    I get what you are saying. It just that would you really want to see a THIRD Victoria, who is possibly different from both previous portrayers? I really don’t see Heather Tom ever returning to the role, and even though people have mixed feelings on Amelia Heinle, she’s been in the role for six years now and at least most people tolerate her, if not like.

    But hey – it goes how it goes, we shall see, etc.

  31. Avatar of blake3b
    blake3b

    I don’t blame these guys, they see what appears to be a sinking ship full of drama and they are getting out while they can.

    Graz was great on American Horror Story. Both actors will make it in prime time for sure.

  32. Avatar of jcrenny
    jcrenny

    [quote=Yoryla]
    I get what you are saying. It just that would you really want to see a THIRD Victoria, who is possibly different from both previous portrayers? I really don’t see Heather Tom ever returning to the role, and even though people have mixed feelings on Amelia Heinle, she’s been in the role for six years now and at least most people tolerate her, if not like. But hey – it goes how it goes, we shall see, etc.[/quote]

    I have no desire to see a NEW Victoria. It took me a while to get used to Amelia and now I very much enjoy her. I loved Heather Tom, but her Victoria had qualities that bugged me as well.

    I feel like Victoria is a nice blend of her parents now. She just needs to be allowed to be a bitch on wheels more often. I never understood why they had her bite her tongue throughout the Chelsea nonsense. It was completely OOC. She thrives in a powersuit. LET HER!

    Victoria has been the ONLY female on this show to hold the position of CEO at multiple companies. She currently is the only one we see actually working. She is clearly a competent CEO. They should just retire Victor already and let the woman take over.

    To the poster up-thread who mentioned that they should bring back the Prentiss family. I COMPLETELY AGREE! They should bring back Brooks Prentiss! Have him take interest in Victoria. Could you imagine that storyline?

    Victor thought Billy Abbott was a nightmare. How about Lorie’s son? LOL

    Then we will have yet another awesome business to work stories around! Prentiss Industries. That in addition to Newman Enterprises, Jabot Cosmetics, Chancellor Industries, Beauty of Nature, and McCall Unlimited — so much potential.

    They should also ditch the dead weight that is Jeffrey, Anita, Carmine, Chelsea, etc and bring back legacy characters that mean something to the show like Philip Chancellor III & IV, Mackenzie Browning, Brock Reynolds, Nate Hastings, Jr., Olivia Winters, etc.

  33. Avatar of pferrando
    pferrando

    Good lord. Mass exodus. Billy will be sorely missed and the chemistry between him and Victoria is undeniable. They, along with Lily and Cane were two couples that I could stand to watch although they often were dealt crap to act.

    Like many on here, I am fine with Daniel going. I don’t like the way the actor has kinda let himself go looks wise and his pairing with the third Heather does not work anyway.

    I don’t want a Daniel recast, but Billy might need to be offscreen and then bring on someone who’s not a friend of Jill’s. Please no GH actors.

    I can see new characters coming as I type this. It’s pointless to reduce the current cast just to bring in unfamiliar newbies. Please no.

  34. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    I am not sad to see either one of these actors go. The character of Daniel suffers from the same issue as Jack Abbot in the romance department. They took what should have been his life long love in Lily due to a little chemistry the actress had with someone else the same way they too Phyllis from Jack to pursue the never ending triangle of Sharon/Phyllis/Nick. And then when they were about to revisit Daniel and Lily, TPTB caved to rabid fans. Don’t even recast Daniel. He has no purpose but to sleep with every young woman that comes to town.

    Billy Miller is not commited to the show and the story has suffered due to it. Let him go. Recast Billy 6 months from now. Or not at all. Kyle is not an adult. We don’t necesarily need them both. Who they should bring back is Keemo. He is a member of a core family and will add to diversity.

  35. Avatar of Ringwraiths
    Ringwraiths

    I SO hope this is true. Both of these characters need a rest and much retooling. Billy Miller is overrated in my opinion. The character of Billy Abbott has become nothing but an asinine buffoon with lame stories on Y&R. It is time for Billy Abbot to be written off and given a rest. They can bring the character back in time with a new actor with talent and in a great story. I have not enjoyed Michael Graziadei’s acting in years on Y&R. He now looks like he is just sleep walking in his scenes. Daniel has never really had a good and meaty story after his first go around romance with Lily. Daniel is now just another useless character that needs to be written off and rested. TPTB can bring Daniel back in time with a good actor in a well written story in the future. I think Victoria Newman and Lily Ashby need to be recast with confident actresses who have talent, good looks, fire, and sex appeal(charisma). IMO

  36. Avatar of love2chat
    love2chat

    Be careful what you wish for! Many people wanted a better show and complained about Y&R and now you have the dreaded JFP in control. I predict Y&R will drop like a stone in ratings the same way GH did when JFP, Frons and Guza were in control of GH. Say goodbye to any favorites or VETS on Y&R. Say hello to younger ‘cheaper’ actors and actresses ( cut in pay ) and Say a big hello to some former disgruntled GH stars who thrived under JFP. GOOD LUCK.

  37. Avatar of Transfigurationjc
    Transfigurationjc

    I dont blame Graz or Billy Miller for pursuing prime time. But you have good points. I think the brass needs to pool the salary money their saving with the cast cuts and approach Victoria Rowell ( Druscilla) for a return. Im sure if they paid her well, gave her a decent contract and story she would return at least for a while.
    That would spike ratings. And since they want to dispatch so many characters I think now would be a great time to write Kimberlin Brown back in as Sheila to shake things up and kill off a few folk. KB is the best villainess to grace Genoa City. I would also consider rehiring Peter Porte as Ricky he was also very good in my opinion.
    And while they’re firing people they should consider Jessica Heap ( Eden). To me she is just bland and she has no chem with anyone. I doubt many would miss her.
    And I think they should put Liz Hendrickson ( Chloe) and Gregg Rikart ( Kevin) on reoccuring status. They never have any strong significant story and neither of them is a heavy weight character like Phyllis or Nick. That would also save money.

  38. Avatar of pumpkin
    pumpkin

    I have seen the actor in other roles. He was good but I found Daniel boring. I also know that when a new actress came on, they would throw them at him to see what would stick. That is not how it should be done. Testing yes, but full blown stories, I don’t think so. I knew right away they would have NuHeather sleep with him. Standard pattern there.

    I know Phelps could possibly kill a vet. She seems to think creating story for those around a beloved vet saves a show. Some things never change. This would not shock me since it is her MO.

    As far as these two guys, I am not shocked they are moving on. The writing for them last few years is subpar.

  39. Avatar of Yoryla
    Yoryla

    [quote=Divatude58]Who they should bring back is Keemo. He is a member of a core family and will add to diversity.[/quote]

    Peter Bergman did not like the Keemo story and doesn’t want it ever mentioned again. That’s why they will never bring him back.

    Which is kind of shame since many longtime viewers really appreciated the Luan/Keemo story and see Luan as Jack’s true love.

  40. Avatar of Marcelle
    Marcelle

    [quote=Yoryla]Peter Bergman did not like the Keemo story and doesn’t want it ever mentioned again. That’s why they will never bring him back. [/quote]
    Yoryla, I may not agree with you on many topics on this site, LOL, but this statement right here is pure truth. PB gave an interview to SID, SOD one of them, where this is basically what he said.

    He said the Keemo storyline was silly, and yeah that basically it should never be brought up again.

    That’s one of the biggest issues with Y&R. These actors have too much damn say about their storylines. Just go to work and act. Way too many cooks in the kitchen over there.

    It’s one thing to offer suggestions, ideas, etc. But when you start demanding stuff, or in the cases of some cast members on this show, leak things to your fans, push your fans to demand things on your behalf, it becomes a mess.

  41. Avatar of CindyC
    CindyC

    This latest massacre is a perfect example of why CHRISTEL KHALIL’S PLANE FLEW:

    I promised I wouldn’t get embroiled in this issue, but after hearing about the latest exodus of prime characters, sometimes, I just can’t help myself when presumptions become obscene. I have zero interest in getting into a war of words with those that are critical of Lane fan’s passionate efforts to express our frustration that Christel Khalil’s character was targeted as the FIRST causality of the new regime, by flying a plane as an expression of support. Now that others are experiencing our frustration, perhaps you can finally GET IT.

    I want to preface the following comments by stating that these are my personal opinions/observations as a Lane fan and not representative of said fan base:

    I was a participant in Christel Khalil’s campaign, not because I am invested in the fictional couple of Lane, (although I think Lily, Cane and the twins are the most beautiful family on daytime or primetime, to date), but because of what the couple represents socially.

    This fictional family unit symbolizes a REAL growing evolutionary tapestry that transcends the hateful, mean spirited ideas of what couples, soaps included, are. It represents a dynamic with which I can identify (multicultural, sans stereotype), that isn’t focused on race, color, creed or nationality. In my opinion, supporting the fictional couple of Lane supports the world that currently exists, despite how much narrow-minds and hateful hearts want to believe otherwise.

    Times have changed, the world is evolving, and if soaps don’t expand their point of view, they’ll be irrelevant to anyone other than those still confused about the functionality of phones without a cord. Fewer culturally diverse people are satisfied with the OLD perception of what is beautiful, which is why I was so insulted when the call went out to re-cast Christel Khalil’s character to a generic politically acceptable version – this, from people that don’t have a CLUE who the fans of multicultural storylines are or what they want (ala, Ji Min Kim, Rafael Torres and his maid-aunt).

    It doesn’t take a psychiatrist to deduce that bigots (of any culture/race) will not embrace anything indicative of Lane, or Winters Island Wednesdays unless someone’s neck is rolling, reformed drug addicts, offensive inappropriate confrontations with extended family members, or oppressed servants, so the duplication of effort to satisfy the masses is only going to piss off the ONLY people who gives a crap about this segment of society.

    The awesome ray of sunshine is Evolution – the wonderful thing about it is that it’s uncontrollable. Fighting it is like pushing against an immovable object, it will surpass narrow minds, and intolerant views, no matter how long it takes. Ultimately, it will happen despite opposition and the loss of the only morally/ethically uncontaminated couple on Y&R in particular. It isn’t about following, CK/DG or race; it’s about celebrating similarities, which obliterates separatism. That’s why I enthusiastically participated in the Plane Banner campaign and I don’t give a F*ck what anyone thinks about it – I just wanted to openly address my opinion to the pompous, pontificating, as*holes that think they have all the answers to Lane’s fan appeal.

    Additionally, the old Standard Soap Opera adage that married couples are doomed to the back-burner is simply the limitations of a supposedly creative mind, as well as the recycling of obsolete scribes of defunct soaps. Don’t blame the couples; recognize the ineptness of the writing staff. If TPTB had the temerity to CREATE storylines that keeps fans invested in THIS millennium, with the BALLS to tell actors when they’re too old to take their shirts off and stick their tongues down the throat of every young woman on canvas, the focus on couples that are actually DEVOTED to each other will reign again – ala Lane and Likey.

    For me, Christel Khalil IS Lily Ashby, and I will accept no other, she’s tied to my emotional investment in Lane, which is why I watch Y&R at all. Granted, Lane is rarely on screen, yet still reign as most popular couple, but why is anyone surprised, amidst the catastrophically sleazy bed hopping, disloyal, scheming, sanctimoniously unredeemable character crapfest that is currently Y&R. Whining about robot voting looses credibility to anyone NOT fixated on this hateful delusion.

    Lastly, although I digressed, I participated in the “Plane Banner” campaign because of the aforementioned reasons and to let Christel Khalil know that she was respected by the people that appreciated her work, contract negotiations notwithstanding, PERIOD!

    PS: This is leep_up…

  42. Avatar of Marcelle
    Marcelle

    [quote=CindyC]This fictional family unit symbolizes a REAL growing evolutionary tapestry that transcends the hateful, mean spirited ideas of what couples, soaps included, are. It represents a dynamic with which I can identify (multicultural, sans stereotype), that isn’t focused on race, color, creed or nationality. In my opinion, supporting the fictional couple of Lane supports the world that currently exists, despite how much narrow-minds and hateful hearts want to believe otherwise.[/quote]
    While some have said they’ve wanted to see Lily have a relationship with an AA male, I’ve never seen it said exclusive to anyone else. But beyond this…

    Lily has had moderately to very successful pairings with other men, Billy and Daniel respectively, that had nothing to do with race, color, creed or nationality. This particular ‘issue’ has never in fact been an issue for this character.

    When Lily was paired with Daniel and even Billy, and even in the beginning days of the relationship with Cane, she was very integrated into the rest of the cast. She had friends, she was in school, she was making jewelry at one point, she had a job. The writers wanted to tell some kind of story with this character, it’s when fans, the audience whoever, complained about everything they did with her that didn’t benefit one common goal (the happiness of Lane), that they just shrugged their shoulders and did nothing with her.

    They’d made her the center of a triangle/quad between Billy (Billy who was an Abbott, one of the main core families of the show) and Cane, they could’ve written story for a long time between Chloe/Billy/Lily/Cane, but folks cried, and well, the writers gave them what they wanted.

    Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on how you look at it, on this show under Maria’s regime, for a character to be viable and on canvas for her, she had to be able to bounce them around in relationships. She ‘couldn’t’ do that, so we ended up with a Lily with no uterus, no job, no education, no friends, and two kids with a non-core family character.

    [quote=CindyC]For me, Christel Khalil IS Lily Ashby, and I will accept no other, she’s tied to my emotional investment in Lane, which is why I watch Y&R at all. [/quote]
    And therein lies part of the problem. The actors aren’t their characters. Don’t get me wrong, when someone is good for a role (and I concede that ‘good’ is subjective) you want to see them in it. I may joke (even laugh about) CK/Lane fans paying for a plane, but at the end of the day, that is that fanbase’s right to do what they want with their money.

    I actually don’t mind CK as Lily. When the actress is interested/engaged in her storylines, she shows potential. When Cane was ‘dead’ CK used the opportunity to do something with her acting. When Cane came back, it was back to the same.

    My problem is when the actor’s desires interfere with the character. This is only to speaks to the rumor that CK wants to go recurring. If it’s true (again, if it’s true) that’s not good for the character of Lily. Nothing can even be attempted to make the character more substantial if she appears only four times a month, ten times when they give her her once every six months storyline a la Lauren. Lily/CK has basically been recurring for the last year almost and we see where that’s gotten Lily as a character, NOWHERE.

    This isn’t even CK specific for me. Love Billy Miller in the role of Billy, but his career is/was getting to the point where he couldn’t/can’t really give the role the attention it requires anymore, and Billy Abbott the character is suffering for it.

    So for him also I say, compromise, or move on. I’m actually happy he moved on. He should. He needs to. At this specific point in his career he has an opportunity to really get somewhere outside of daytime. He should take the chance before it’s too late.

    Same for CK, I really do think she should move on. One, they’ve tried to get rid of her before, so she should’ve known before this incident where she stood on the totem pole of importance in tiic’s eyes. Two, JFP can make a place very unpleasant to work, if she doesn’t want you there. CK should ask Genie about it. Whether JFP had any opinions on CK one way or the other before this, I can’t believe anything that’s played out since the leak of that Lily casting call, has endeared CK in JFP’s view point. And three, I honestly believe CK could find success on CW/ABC Family type show, garnering her a greater fanbase and more opportunities than anything she’ll get from daytime.

    Lasly, I freely admit I spent WAY too much time typing this, LOL, am a dweeb for staying in on a Sat night, and that this post is too long, didn’t read, lmao.

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  43. Avatar of gato1
    gato1

    ugh not intrested in VR returning-I highly doubt she would be asked back anyway. This show is so boring they really could cut anyone and then come up with some good storys. Except Jack, Victor, Nikki, Adam.Nick,kay,Victoria(hopefully Recast), Paul, and Neil

  44. Avatar of tedew
    tedew

    BM has long rumoured to be considering moving. Unfortunately he will not be taking the rest of his immediate family with him. His departure this time will yet again be due to the actions of his unstable wife.

    JM will be missed by me but he really can’t hover there. After all, he has been the Goddess Jessica Lange’s boy toy on screen. And I like the way he looks now more than ever with the small exception of that large tattoo between his shoulder blades.

  45. Avatar of ANGELWENDY15
    ANGELWENDY15

    Too many actors leaving or axed at once. It takes awhile for an audience to accept new characters, hopefully the vets will get good story-lines to keep the interest. Not surprised about Genie Francis and Debbie Morgan, the roles were all wrong fo them. Their characters were just so wrong and boring.Billy Miller was great at first, loved the whole beginning of him and Victoria’s relationship, so fun to watch. After they married, they gave him less and less to do. I think Heather will be the next to go since Daniel is leaving. As a GH watcher for years, BEWARE Y & R fans. When I heard Jill Phelps was taking over, get ready for a DARKER show. If James Franco comes on, that will be the death of the show for sure. His character was horrible and bizzare on GH, ruined the show. Prepare for Steve Burton to eventually come on also, but he is good on the eyes and a helluva lot better then Franco.

  46. Avatar of SwanQueen59
    SwanQueen59

    Ditto Ryan-Scott. It saddens me that PB was so dismissive of the story. There was a lot of material to be had with that branch of the Abbott family tree. I’d point to all the times when you had Ashley, Tucker, Billy, Victoria, et al. over in the orient the past two years and I honestly don’t recall Keemo’s name coming up. Glaring when you consider Ashley and Billy are blood relatives in addition to the family business tie in which, you’d assume, Tucker and Victoria would be keenly aware of. Whether PB liked it or not, there should have been, at minimum, a mention of Jack’s son… 0:)

  47. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    @Cindy_C If Lane is evolutionary then expect them to get the same treatment as all soap pairings. They all split up and pair with other people and get back together. Lane should be no exception because they are an IR couple. I say treat them like the epic love their fans seems to think they are and give them the Nikki/Victor treatment. Victor has kids with two other women and Nikki has been married ssssooo many times….but it doesn’t diminish their connection in the slightest. Don’t expect this couple to get special treatment. Break them up and pair Lily with whomever the writers deem a good story at the time. And in this particular instance, it is an AA. And the Lily character is loooooong overdue for it. Overlooking the fact that there are many AA viewers who doesn’t like the fact that their one legacy female on the show has never had a romance with a Black person because that in itself should be enough to do it. But soaps, Y&R in particular, have a history of bringing in characters to give stories to the vets on canvas. That is the only reason for introducing a new character unrelated to anyone on canvas. Y&R has yet to bring on a new young AA male because they have no romantic pairing for him (it’s why Nate is not brought back full time too). So if he can’t be paired with Lily then they won’t bring him on (and one could argue that they could pair him with one of the young white woman but really. It’s not a realistic option as they won’t even pair Devon with one nor Neil. KSJ has said that daytime doesn’t do that kind of IR. Just saying…). So it follows that Lily being paired with Cane (or anyone) forever and never dating anyone else limits diversity on canvas. It’s really not in the best interest of the show.

  48. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    [quote=Yoryla][quote=Divatude58]Who they should bring back is Keemo. He is a member of a core family and will add to diversity.[/quote]Peter Bergman did not like the Keemo story and doesn’t want it ever mentioned again. That’s why they will never bring him back. Which is kind of shame since many longtime viewers really appreciated the Luan/Keemo story and see Luan as Jack’s true love.[/quote]

    This is sucha tragedy. It seems the actors are more out of touch with teh audience than the writers will ever be. Regardless of what PB (whom I like less and less and the years go by) wants should be irrelevant to the story. Keemo is a return that I think many audiences would like to see. Has he ever said why he disliked the story so much? I think it went over VERY well with the audience. It was one of his better romance stories if you ask me.

  49. Avatar of Yoryla
    Yoryla

    [quote=Divatude58]This is sucha tragedy. It seems the actors are more out of touch with teh audience than the writers will ever be. Regardless of what PB (whom I like less and less and the years go by) wants should be irrelevant to the story. Keemo is a return that I think many audiences would like to see. Has he ever said why he disliked the story so much? I think it went over VERY well with the audience. It was one of his better romance stories if you ask me.[/quote]

    I totally agree with you Divatude.

    I actually just recently learned that PB had such an opinion about this storyline and was shocked upon hearing it! Most longtime-fans, who have been watching from the 80′s, really loved that storyline! It showed such a kind and emotional side to Jack, not to mention honorable with the Vietnam war connection. Also, from polls that are made time to time, about who is Jack’s true love, most people say it is Luan. And like someone said, Elizabeth Sung was fabulous in the storyline. Her acting was so natural and touching it was palpable.

    Apparently PB felt that the whole storyline was “some writers dream come true” and a “strange detour”, his own words. And that he wishes everyone would just forget that it ever happened. PB thought that Jack going to Vietnam was totally out of character for a millionaire playboy, which I do actually agree on. But still, it spawned a very touching storyline for him. I am very surprised on his attitude.

  50. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    @yoryla I have just lost whatever affection I might have had for PB. Every story penned is “some writers dream come true”. How is that one any different? I am not quite getting that this was a “strange detour”? Just exactly what was “strange” about it. PB had only been playing Jack for a few years when the story was written so how could he possible consider it a detour. He barely had a handle on the character himself. Now, a millionaire playboy going to Vietnam was possibly not all that feasible. However, John Abbot Jr is the son of John Abbot Sr. and I can see John Sr pushing his son to go because it is “the right thing to do” and I can see John Jr wanting to go to “make his father proud”. Something that he always strived to do. So no, in that respect it is not farfetched. I am still not really understanding PB’s aversion to the story. Nor why he wouldn’t embrace the return of Keemo. A writer’s dream come true is having a millionaire playboy fall in love with a marry that crazy a$$ Phyllis. That was the least realistic pairing Jack has ever had. Although I actually liked the pairing.

  51. Avatar of Marcelle
    Marcelle

    Divatude, I searched all over the internet to find the Peter Bergman interview, so you could see PB’s words for yourself. I’ve forgotten many a thing over the years, but this specific interview has always stayed with me for some reason, b/c I just remember being so…idk…disappointed (though I’m not sure that’s the right word to describe it) in what he had to say about Keemo.

    This is why we’ve never seen or heard of Keemo on the show, PB’s exact quote from the interview:

    [quote]“Keemo, that was one writer’s side thing. That was such a strange detour. I don’t want to go there again.”[/quote]

    Shaking my head, indeed. You can read the full interview here:
    http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/tv/2010/08/04/deep-soap-yrs-peter-bergman-criticizes-jack-and-victors-war/

  52. Avatar of jcrenny
    jcrenny

    While I can’t say I disagree with him. The entire Keemo/Luan storyline was OOC — BUT it happened. They should respect it. I mean Kyle is a result of a two women chases after VICTOR’S SPERM! So if he can play happy daddy to him then PB can have Jack happy to see a son actually created from love.
    I would love to see Keemo return. He was a cutie and he was add some much needed diversity to this show. And like it or not, he is a legacy character. UGH. Lame.

    And we thought EB was a diva. I know that mad killed MANY storylines over the years — many involving MTS and AH, which I am sure pissed them off.

    These actors have too much say…

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    1titanman

    Billy Miller & Graz both have primetime written on their forehead. However the last few years Graz should of left because his character has been useless.

    I wish both greatness, because Billy Miller is so ready for primetime and I see Graz doing movies.

    I hope for the young people on Y&R they get it together, and they really don’t need to recast these roles just yet. However they need to focus on recasting the role of Victoria Newman

    Can’t wait for the podcast about what going on behind the scenes at Y&R

  54. Avatar of Marcelle
    Marcelle

    [quote=jcrenny]I mean Kyle is a result of a two women chases after VICTOR’S SPERM! So if he can play happy daddy to him then PB can have Jack happy to see a son actually created from love. [/quote]
    EXACTLY!!!! PB dismisses Keemo as “one writer’s side thing,” but then in the very next breath says, “In a perfect world, Kyle and Diane would show up again.”

    GMAB.

    What makes ‘Kyle’ worth exploring as a character, but ‘Keemo’ a storyline PB never wants to revisit again?

  55. Avatar of Angie Lucy
    Angie Lucy

    I’ve always wanted Keemo (though I hated his name) to return. I hated when Luan died. What’s up with PB? I know he took a lot of heat when he was paired with Debbie Morgan on AMC. Maybe that made him gunshy of interracial story. However, considering how popular the storyline was, he shouldn’t have those concerns anymore. This leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

  56. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    [quote=Marcelle]Divatude, I searched all over the internet to find the Peter Bergman interview, so you could see PB’s words for yourself. I’ve forgotten many a thing over the years, but this specific interview has always stayed with me for some reason, b/c I just remember being so…idk…disappointed (though I’m not sure that’s the right word to describe it) in what he had to say about Keemo. This is why we’ve never seen or heard of Keemo on the show, PB’s exact quote from the interview:
    [quote]“Keemo, that was one writer’s side thing. That was such a strange detour. I don’t want to go there again.”[/quote]Shaking my head, indeed. You can read the full interview here:
    http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/tv/2010/08/04/deep-soap-yrs-peter-bergman-criticizes-jack-and-victors-war//quote

    PB is an a$$. Refering to himself in third person. That tells me all I need to know. Hew seems to have taken on some if the Jack Abbot persona.

    Then dogging the young actors that were on the show with this: [quote]Over the past few weeks it seems like the show is returning to form. Are you happy with the scripts and where ‘Y&R’ is headed?
    I am happy for several reasons. For a number of years we had young actors where I thought, ‘These people are not good.’ [Now] we have a number of young actors that are very, very good between Billy Miller and Elizabeth Hendrickson and Jeff Branson and Eden Riegel.[/quote]

    Who the heck is he talking about. CK, BJ, Lyndsey Fonseca, Tammin Sorsak, etc. Classless is all I can say.

    And yes, he is dimissing a big part of Jack’s history by saying that it was “one writers side thing”. Eh! Keemo still exists and is very much Jack’s son just as much as Kyle is. But yet he welcomes the return of Kyle and Diane. Why is that so much on the Jack Abbot path and Keemo and Luan are off.

    He also seems to want to only be invlolved in some sh!t with Victor. I don’t know why when his character will always lose.

  57. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    @jcrenny…Kyle and Abby’s conceptions are a product of one of the most ridiculous SLs in daytime history (as far as conception goes). And PB wants to visit that. Reeeaaally.

    @Marcelle…I hope the writers bring Keemo back. He would make a good pairing for Victoria and he always had a crush on her. That makes more sense than a pairing with Billy if you ask me. And it would thwart PB whom I have decided that I can NOT stand.

  58. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    [quote=Angie Lucy]I’ve always wanted Keemo (though I hated his name) to return. I hated when Luan died. What’s up with PB? I know he took a lot of heat when he was paired with Debbie Morgan on AMC. Maybe that made him gunshy of interracial story. However, considering how popular the storyline was, he shouldn’t have those concerns anymore. This leaves a bad taste in my mouth.[/quote]

    The taste in my mouth is quite bitter. Moreso because I loved that story than anything. And to think that he is the reason that we have not had Keemo come back along with the rumors that he has been apart of the group of actors blocking VRs return just…no words to describe it. It just warms my heart to know thjat PB is doing all he can to limit diversity on Y&R. Thanks jerk.

  59. Avatar of tedew
    tedew

    Keemo would be someone to see pop up again and it would add dimension.

    PB is a employee of the show so I’ve never quite figured out why an employee has such say over what his character should be doing. It was a good storyline and it is part Jack’s past so it should be explored more.

  60. Avatar of THEBEST
    THEBEST

    Without Billy Miller, Amelia Heinle is useless. JFP needs to be on the phone with Sarah Brown, Tamara Braun, or Gina Tognoni ASAP!!! Josh Kelly (ex-Cutter, OLTL) would be a GREAT Billy recast!!!! As for Daniel, I’ve never really cared for the character. BYE!

  61. Avatar of jcrenny
    jcrenny

    I have grown to like Amelia Heinle. I don’t think her acting is the problem — I think it was her lame ass storylines and writing. Even if Heather Tom was in the role, Victoria Newman Abbott would still be whiny and baby obsessed.

    When she is given good content, she is actually fun to watch, ie Victoria reaming Brad and firing Sharon over their affair.

    She has been in the role for 7 years now. I don’t need a recast. I need them to actually WRITE her character IN CHARACTER.

    As for PB — maybe he has changed his mind. This was an old interview and things change. Though it is sad to read him dismiss a storyline that actually humanized his character.

    It isn’t like Sharon Case venting about her character hooking up with a man she viewed as a father for 20 years and just so happens to actually be the father of BOTH her husbands. Now THAT deserves an actor’s annoyance — LOL!

  62. Avatar of mango
    mango

    [quote=jcrenny]
    As for PB — maybe he has changed his mind. This was an old interview and things change. Though it is sad to read him dismiss a storyline that actually humanized his character.
    [/quote]

    Indeed. Frankly, I would think anything is better than shot-gun wedding Jack we’ve been seeing the last five years or so. It’s been pretty brutal.

  63. Avatar of goyankees
    goyankees

    My Billy…. :-( That’s my Billy….. sniffy!!

    Not much reason for me to tune in for this than, is there?? The only thing left is the epi where Sharon is diagnosed with the Herp, so…???

  64. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    [quote=THEBEST]Without Billy Miller, Amelia Heinle is useless. JFP needs to be on the phone with Sarah Brown, Tamara Braun, or Gina Tognoni ASAP!!! Josh Kelly (ex-Cutter, OLTL) would be a GREAT Billy recast!!!! As for Daniel, I’ve never really cared for the character. BYE![/quote]

    ITA about AH. Victoria and Billy are only popular as a couple because Billy is a popular character. That’s it.

  65. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    [quote=mango][quote=jcrenny]
    As for PB — maybe he has changed his mind. This was an old interview and things change. Though it is sad to read him dismiss a storyline that actually humanized his character.
    [/quote]Indeed. Frankly, I would think anything is better than shot-gun wedding Jack we’ve been seeing the last five years or so. It’s been pretty brutal.[/quote]

    Unless I read the date wrong, the interview was from 2010. That wasn’t that long ago. I seriously doubt if Jack falling in love and marrying every 6 months will change PBs position on the Keemo and Luan story. It’s just a feeling I get. And yes, anything is better than the sorry state of Jack’s love life. I don’t know who is worse, Jack or Neil

  66. Avatar of tedew
    tedew

    jcrenny … somehow I have to agree with you.

    Maybe Ms. Heinle would be much more interesting if she had better material to work with. Just make Victoria a bit less baby obsessed, much less daddy forgiving and a much stronger business woman then just maybe she’d be someone to reckon with and for us to watch.

  67. Avatar of Duchess
    Duchess

    I knew the day was coming but that doesn’t make it any easier to lose Billy Miller :( With all the bad stories and bad writing Villy was the one good thing on the show the past few years. I will miss him and his character terribly even though I know he’s destined for bigger and better things. That being said though I am a fan of the characters of Billy and Victoria and would like to see their story continue so I hope they do recast the role.

  68. Avatar of Yoryla
    Yoryla

    Divatude, I agree. I doubt PB has changed his mind concerning that storyline. It would be kind of stupid, and obvious, to have his son Kyle on screen and neither of them mention Keemo.

  69. Avatar of Chilly Fan 25
    Chilly Fan 25

    Sam to see Billy Miller leave but he can do so much better than this show. And I can’t really blame him. His storylines have sucked lately and his main job seems to be propping Amelia “Can’t act her way out of a paper bag” Heinle. So yeah, I don’t blame him if he does go.

  70. Avatar of scrumptious
    scrumptious

    Billy Miller has done jack shit this past year on Y&R except take off for pilot seasons, leave for outside projects, and take long azz holidays. If anything, I think Heinle has been carrying HIM since they always have her character “pretend-talking” to him on the phone or Skye while he’s away in Los Angeles for long periods of time. He’s been a non-presence for a while now, and Miller has been vocal about wanting to leave for greener pastures.

    When Miller does show up, he phones it in, with his stereotypical teeth-gritting and smarmy eye-rolling. At times, he even appears drunk and slovenly. He always sounded congested, like he has a perpetual cold or hangover.

    Apparently that atrocious Myanmar storyline was MAB’s attempt to accommodate Miller’s month long holidays and working on CW’s “Ringer” while juggling Y&R at the same time.

    Obviously, Miller was a MAB pet and she bent over backwards for him. But she’s gone now. I’m getting the sense that JFP is not as enamored with Miller as MAB was, and I can’t blame her for wanting actors who will commit to the show.

    I do hope Useless Pile and his stinky trailer park is burned to the ground after Miller leaves. That gossip rag was utter trash and symbolic of the depravity of MAB’s vapid writing regime.

  71. Avatar of noway
    noway

    [quote=scrumptious]Billy Miller has done jack shit this past year on Y&R except take off for pilot seasons, leave for outside projects, and take long azz holidays. If anything, I think Heinle has been carrying HIM since they always have her character “pretend-talking” to him on the phone or Skye while he’s away in Los Angeles for long periods of time. He’s been a non-presence for a while now, and Miller has been vocal about wanting to leave for greener pastures.

    When Miller does show up, he phones it in, with his stereotypical teeth-gritting and smarmy eye-rolling. At times, he even appears drunk and slovenly. He always sounded congested, like he has a perpetual cold or hangover.

    Apparently that atrocious Myanmar storyline was MAB’s attempt to accommodate Miller’s month long holidays and working on CW’s “Ringer” while juggling Y&R at the same time.

    Obviously, Miller was a MAB pet and she bent over backwards for him. But she’s gone now. I’m getting the sense that JFP is not as enamored with Miller as MAB was, and I can’t blame her for wanting actors who will commit to the show.

    I do hope Useless Pile and his stinky trailer park is burned to the ground after Miller leaves. That gossip rag was utter trash and symbolic of the depravity of MAB’s vapid writing regime.[/quote]

    Although, I loved BM when he first came everything you said in this rant is true, he just phones it in.7

  72. Avatar of pferrando
    pferrando

    So I gotta ask….if you’ve loyally played a character on a show for YEARS, as written, and then a storyline is being shoved your way that’s out of character or doesn’t make sense why is it wrong to vocalize against it?

    First example is Jack. Jack’s Keemo story really didn’t fit. Yes it was beautifully written but it didn’t fit Jack. Backstory is hard to swallow sometimes. I get it.

    Current example…. Sharon and Victor. Everyone is all for Sharon Case to speak out against this story. And again she’s right. It got that yuck factor.

    I have no problem with LONGTIME actors voicing their displeasure. I don’t see PB as being a difficult actor or Sharon Case. These actors have loyal fan bases and should be able to have some input once in a while. Bill Bell used to listen to his actors. The end result wasn’t always pro actor but ANY great leader should listen.

  73. Avatar of hey mon
    hey mon

    See ya, Billy Miller and Graz. Dont like Graz, never did, never will. Should have stuck with the one appearance Cam Giraurdet, or whatever his name is, back in 2004. Maybe I just dont like Daniel. JFP will obviously have to recast. Who is going to give the girls of Genoa City their first ‘trip’ into womanhood without Danny-boy on the canvas? Good thing Summer is his sister, Ive seen the way he looks at her.

    Everyone will miss Miller. From us old gents who like his cockiness and the way he gets Victoria nekked, to the young girls who sigh when he on screen, he will be missed. Miller is destined for greater things other than Y&R. When he is on prime-time, the screen lights up. On ‘Ringer’, he mad a bad show interesting. He was in a Lifetime movie a week ago about a husband who is a killer, and it was more than just a boring Lifetime movie cause of him. So good luck, Miller.

    Who could JFP re-cast him with?

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    tedew

    pferrando … on second thought I guess I have to agree with your comment on character loyalty.

    hey mon … I do get that the Graz could be an acquired taste, but it’s a taste I’ve acquired (for the most part) as he’s been leaving his earlier years.

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    Missnikki…Miller isn’t going, but Michael’s return was just to usher out Phyllis. Was great to see him with some intelligent storyline material though.

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