HomeTVGeneral HospitalGeneral Hospital: Perkie’s Observations Perkie October 5, 2012 50 Comments Sonny thinks he’s gotten through to Kate, but Connie reminds him that he let Kate get raped by Joe and shot on her wedding day. Sonny wonders why she took over now. Connie admits Kate found out about Trey. Sonny’s shocked to hear that Kate knew about Trey. Connie explains it all. Sonny wonders why she just didn’t leave town. Connie couldn’t resist ruining the wedding. Sonny says Alexis will have her committed, but Connie says Sonny can’t do anything since he’s not her husband. Joe tells Tracy that he’s been shot, but not to call the ambulance because he can’t get the cops involved. Tracy asks what he’s done. Joe lies and says Sonny sent his men to kill him. Tracy doesn’t believe that Sonny would do that on his wedding day. Even if he did, the killer would have finished the job. Joe claims he got away and asks Tracy to take the bullet out. Tracy gets Monica’s medical bag. Joe says he’s putting his life in her hands and he trusts her. Tracy gets the bullet out. He thanks her for saving him. He asks her to hide him for a few days until he can defend himself. He swears Tracy is the only one he can trust. Carly is sure something else is going on and begs Johnny to tell her what it is. Johnny says he’s sorry and that Connie doesn’t have anything on him. Carly’s angry that she gave him another chance and wonders what Connie can give him that she can’t? Johnny claims to love Connie. Carly realizes that Todd knows. Johnny says he tried to be a better man, but that Connie likes him as he is. Carly asks why Johnny wanted them to run away. Johnny says Connie got tired of sharing and told him to choose and since Carly wouldn’t go, he decided to go through with the marriage. Carly asks why he didn’t end things with her, but he was hoping he could spare her. Carly declares them over. Starr overhears Todd telling his people to find Heather and questions that. She then tells him to concentrate on enemies closer to home and explains about Connie. She says she wants justice. Todd says Starr is already on record coming to Kate’s defense. Starr explains about Connie and Johnny getting married. Starr’s angry that she thought Johnny was her friend, but all this time he’s been having a relationship with Connie. She’s angry that Johnny lied to her and wonders what else he could be hiding. Todd tells her to cut all contacts and go back to Llanview. Starr says Johnny still owns her contract and she’s not leaving Port Charles until she’s dealt with Connie. Todd warns her that revenge is not good and promises to handle it for her. Jason tells Sam that he has something important to tell her, but before he gets a chance Trey and Kristina arrive. Kris tells them that Trey’s father tried to kill her. Jason asks who Trey’s father is. He admits that it’s Joe. Kris says Trey didn’t know and that he saved her. Dante arrives and Kristina explains what happened and Trey tells him about the gun going off and Joe running off. Jason tries to call Sonny to warn him, but gets his voice mail. Dante explains that the wedding didn’t happen because Connie’s in control. Dante asks if Trey knows where his father would have gone since he has no friends in town. Jason tells him about Joe’s friendship with Tracy, so Dante heads out there. John says he needs to talk to Tea about the baby. She offers to get the baby, but comes back saying the nanny and the baby are gone. She mentions the name Susan Moore, which rings a bell with John. He shows her a picture of Heather and says she isn’t a nanny. John puts out an APB on Heather. Tea wonders what she would want with her son. Carly goes to see Todd and smacks him across the face. He says he was her friend. Carly says he let her stay with a guy who was cheating on her and asks why he didn’t tell her about Johnny and Connie. Sonny grabs Connie and says she isn’t going anywhere. Connie says he can’t force her and calls him a bully and a pig. She calls out to Johnny to come and help her. Sonny says Johnny won’t be able to find her when she’s locked up and Johnny finally comes out. Connie begs him to help her and do something. Johnny tells Sonny to take his hands off of her or he’ll call the cops and have Sonny charged with kidnapping and assault. Sonny lets Connie go, but begs Johnny not to do this, to move out of the way and let him help a sick woman. Johnny says he can’t help Sonny. He and Connie leave. Jason is still trying to get a hold of Sonny, but Sam tells him to let Dante handle the Joe thing. She offers to call John. Jason says John is busy and Sam wonders what he knows. John calls Jason and tells him the baby is missing. 50 Responses Perkie October 4, 2012 Kudos to Kelly Sullivan in the scene just before Sonny grabbed her. She was angry and upset but not over the top. Ahh Johnny, I’m so disapointed in you. He could have told Carly that Connie knew he killed Anthony and to play along with Connie. And that would have saved him and his relationship with Carly. Better performance by Kristina today. I’m glad Carly is angry at Todd as well and not leaning on him to make it better. Boy that Starr, has a one track mind when it comes to revenge. I call baloney on Monica not hearing what’s going on downstairs in her living room. Tracy wasn’t exactly whispering. Log in to Reply TV Gord October 5, 2012 Connie also knows that Johnny is responsible for killing Starr’s family, so I think that’s what really worries him. That scene where Todd said he’d get revenge on the person responsible for Hope and Cole’s deaths was annoying, especially when Starr just accepted that and then hugged her father. Sure, Todd meant Johnny, but from Starr’s POV, she’s giving her tacit approval for Todd to go after Kate/Connie without any restraints. Considering Starr’s knowledge of her Aunt Viki and cousin Jessica and their DID, Starr would never approve of going after Connie, because it would also mean destroying the presumably innocent Kate. McBain clearly said, “Fisher”, when he was speaking to someone at the Llanview PoLlice Department, but I wonder if he was originally supposed to say, “Fish”, who was the police half of OLTL’s gay couple a few years ago. (Or maybe Fisher was a nickname that we didn’t know about…is there something you want to share with the class, McBain?) Log in to Reply Yoryla October 5, 2012 This was a GREAT episode! Every storyline, and actor was on point. And the stories are intertwined and moving forward. Wow. It’s hard to fathom how GH can have such a clear difference to the three other soaps at this point. Log in to Reply curacaoman October 5, 2012 Johnny went past the point of redemption yesterday, bubye mate! I also wonder how they will manage to redeem Todd as he is now GH’s premier scene hogger Log in to Reply soapjunkie88 October 5, 2012 How long is Johnny supposed to get away with three murder and lying his way out of it? I’m glad that Carly finally got her wake up call and realized that Johnny couldn’t care so much about her if he keeps up this ridiculous story. Another big fat liar appears to be Joe who swears to Tracy that he was shot by Sonny’s men. Say what!? I feel just so sorry for Tracy that she has to put up with this scumbag. I liked how Trey found out that Connie is back and put two and two together that he most likely wasn’t talking to Kate. Would be nice to see Trey turning on his father for all the lies he feed him & especially for kidnapping Kristina. Log in to Reply maxsmom October 5, 2012 with apologies to Perkie, OneLife fans: Chris McKenna @ChrisLMcKenna Just a couple of Joeys at work. @NathanFillion #OLTL #joeybuchanan #castle pic.twitter.com/aYixSLUg Retweeted by Nathan Fillion View photo Hide photo Reply RetweetedRetweet Delete FavoritedFavorite Log in to Reply pjc722 October 5, 2012 I didnt get to watch this episode and I am disappointed because it sounds like good old fun dramatic Soap Opera stuff! Love that Connie has it on SOnny and is blackmailing Johnny. Love that it is all coming to a head for the baby switch story BUT WISH that the men on this show… and any soap… would stop HIDING MAJOR CRAP from the women!!! With the baby switch, I’m certain John will not tell Tea and Jason won’t mention it to Sam about the truth on the baby UNTIL the baby is found. Even then, it will probably take episode after episode to reveal the truth and it won;t come from the men but will come from Heather as the child is ripped from her hands. Only down side to this story is that once Heather is caught, Robin Matson is off. She is truly the best of the new show and not because she is crazy but because she is THAT GOOD AS AN ACTRESS. The Kristina/Trey/Joe/Tracey story is dumb. Now we all know that Kris is the dumbest girl in town even though her mom is a super lawyer and her father is a mob king pin! She has only the toughness and brains of a spoiled brat. There was no love to her and Trey and the pure fact that Trey has lied to her (whether he knew the full story of his father or not) and that his father raped HER father’s new bride … which produced her new insta-husband… and she is standing by her insta-husband INSTEAD of saying “NO EFFIN WAY” is beyond me. And then Tracey… no matter how desperate for a man… also knows that Joe raped Connie (Kate is the alternate) and is still helping him after a couple of romps in the sack is RIDICULOUS! She is a smart business woman who over the years has been duped by many men SOOOOOOOOOO finding out about a guy like Joe so soon in the relationship, she should have DUMPED HIM and got Alice to pile drive him out of the Q-mansion!!!! Love any scene with Elizabeth. Honestly, this actress brings a whole new dimension to this character in every scene. She needs to be connected to a power player character next after Jason leaves so she can be seen FRONT AND CENTER and not in just an average story. GET RID OF STEVE NOW PLEASE. Olivia says that CONNIE IS IN CONTROL and once again Steve ignores her. HE IS AN IDIOTIC CHARACTER and even as a nut job, Olivia should BENSONHURST him to the curb!!! Log in to Reply JASAMMABBY October 5, 2012 I oddly like Todd- I really can not take Starr. Then add that while I like Todd I love Johnny!! I can’t think like Johnny is a three time murderer. His Dad deserved it and I don’t think of him as having murdered Hope and Cole. I really don’t want my Johnny to go down just so Todd can step in and be Carly’s hero.. Log in to Reply CarlyCfan October 5, 2012 I hope Johnny dies, there is nothing left for him on the canvas. He needs to go. Log in to Reply TV Gord October 5, 2012 I don’t think there’s anything that spells doom for Johnny. He didn’t mean to cause the deaths of Hope and Cole, and they can probably write him a “pass” for killing a mob boss. It’s a soap. Characters get away with stuff all the time. (I’m thinking of the saintly Tad Martin on AMC, who killed Greg Madden by burying him alive, and everyone blithely looked the other way.) Personally, I would enjoy seeing more of his journey to redeem himself after his past misdeeds. Log in to Reply appleridge October 5, 2012 John did call Oliver Fish. He asked Fish to put an APB out Log in to Reply GHvetfan October 5, 2012 I wouldn’t mind Fish on GH. What happened to Max and Milo? Sonny could have committed Kate or at least gotten a 24hr hold while Alexis spoke with a judge on Olivia’s behalf. Stupidity! Poor Tea! Karma ia a bitch for Sam. She can just suck it up! Log in to Reply Ryan-Scott October 5, 2012 Fish!!!!!!!!!! :beer: Log in to Reply Perkie October 5, 2012 The more I think about it, the more annoyed I am at how they’re writting JOhnny. Here’s a guy who grew up with crazy Anthony as daddy and crazy Claudia as his “sister” and yet crazy Connie gets her talons in him and he can’t escape her? All he had to do was call her on her bluff. There is no evidence linking him to the accident, so even if Connie were to spill the beans now, who would even beleive her? Kate has no memory so she wouldn’t be any help, even if she made her way back to the surface. And even though Todd knows the truth, he’s in no position to back Connie up. I just think it’s ridiculous that JOhnny of all people, wouldn’t be able to figure out a way to outsmart Connie. Log in to Reply sassysdreams October 5, 2012 [quote=GHvetfan]Karma ia a bitch for Sam. She can just suck it up![/quote] GHvetfan – Remember your words so when Karma bites your pathetic girl Lizzibitch in the butt and people same the exact same thing about her, you won’t have any reason to whine and complain like you always do!!! Log in to Reply GHvetfan October 5, 2012 Attacking other posters Sassy? Stay classy! Log in to Reply bishbay October 5, 2012 The bold tells you that Sassy’s stan-fu is strong. Log in to Reply J Bernard Jones October 5, 2012 I just think it’s ridiculous that Johnny of all people, wouldn’t be able to figure out a way to outsmart Connie. I don’t think it’s a question of Johnny not being able to outsmart Connie alone, but rather Johnny not being able to outsmart multiple people who have something on him, each of them with different agendas and all of them as equally smart & cunning as Johnny could hope to be. They also have the added advantage of ranging from amoral sociopaths (Todd) to mentally ill (Connie). In addition, for all of Johnny’s own heritage & lineage, he never had the capacity, taste or stomach for Anthony’s sick, twisted ways of thinking (which Anthony delighted in rubbing in Johnny’s face every chance he could) and — although she was originally written as a formidable character — Claudia was completely undone by both Anthony’s mental abuse and in the end her own mental breakdown, neither of which are endorsements for Johnny’s genetic ability to outsmart either Connie or Todd. Johnny’s undoing here is his unrelenting guilt (over Hope & Cole and its effect on Starr) mixed with self-presevation in the moment. He’s like a one man game of Jenga: any one piece pulled the wrong way could send him tumbling down farther than he already has fallen. Log in to Reply js3557 October 5, 2012 GHvetfan – word sassy – karma wouldn’t come back at Liz because the karma going on here is that Sam watched Liz’s child be kidnapped by a crazy lady and did nothing, and now her child has been kidnapped by a crazy lady. Even if Liz had known of the possibility of the kidnapping by Heather, it would just make them even. It would not require any bad karma toward Liz. Action equals reaction. Balance in all things. Etc, etc, etc. But nice try… Log in to Reply EricasEvilTwin October 6, 2012 JBernard while I agree with you about the fact that johnny isnt half the villain his father nor does he have half the cunning and deviousness of todd, I think i agree with perkie on this one. Seems to me that he could either have his men pick up connie OR simply deny what was said. Though todd has the tape, unless todd is willing to let the jasam baby secret come out, hes limited in what he can do. Too, i would think we should have at least seen ONE scene where johnny is desperately ordering his men to find the tape since absent that, todd and kannie have zip. Plus really from a legal standpoint, given kates previous courtroom confession AND the fact that they already also tried sonny for the crime, i dont think johnny is at risk in that respect so all he kind of has to lose is carlys love and starrs friendship. Since hes losing carly any way why not call the bluff. Vet, I didnt read sassys post as attacking you so much as shes suggesting that some of your posts really dont stand up given that both women have now done the same thing. If you are going to condemn sam for jake, how does liz get a free pass. SOMEONE kidnapped danny – sure liz doesnt know that HEATHER kidnapped him a second time, but she sure as heck knows that the baby didnt MAGICALLY get switched with teas dead infant. Her choice abetted the first kidnapping AND afforded heather the opportunity to execute the second kidnapping. Try as you might, you cant spin them. They ARE even on that score. The difference then is that while sam ALSO saved Jakes life, liz hasnt done that for danny (in fact as I said quite the opposite) AND liz lied and lied and lied both go rounds interfering with sams relationship and she manipulated and manipulated and manipulated in ways necessary to further the lie. Finally, while Liz has snarked and criticized and judged her way through all of it, sams attitude has always been who am i to say anything. If anyone is due karma at this part, its liz, and i think its headed her way once jason fully digests what has gone on. Shes going to lose whatever relationship they had the same way she lost lucky – the only difference is that jason isnt going to flee the continent just to get away from her. Im still undecided about kristina. I do think shes growing, shes just terrible at the crying. I have on the other hand warmed up with trey. I felt for him as he was telling his dad, hey i didnt have money but i came home to YOU. Its too bad joe didnt listen. I like fish, but i dont think we need him coming to the pcpd. the canvas is way too crowded. Log in to Reply Perkie October 6, 2012 Connie doesn’t have anything on Todd (right? she doesn’t know about the baby switch or did I miss something somewhere?) So JOhnny says, take a hike and Connie goes to the police and says Johnny killed Hope, who’s going to believe her without any proof? Todd doesn’t even come into the equation, since he’s not about to agree with Connie, since Johnny could still out him for the baby. Log in to Reply sassysdreams October 6, 2012 EET – Thank you for explaining things in a much more “classy” way than I apparently did. :love: Log in to Reply GHvetfan October 6, 2012 Yes, because I misunderstood being called a whiner? Hardly! That is in fact attacking a real person because they do not like a fictional one. And that aint whining. It is simply pointing out there is no misunderstanding. Log in to Reply J Bernard Jones October 6, 2012 Didn’t Johnny try to outsmart Kate once before but a Todd-tacular intervention turned the tables on Johnny? Perkie & EET, I get what you are saying and I don’t disagree to an extent, but what I was trying to say is that Johnny is being squeezed from multiple sides and it is that pressure which is causing him to cave. To my knowledge, yes Heather does not have anything on Johnny per se (where is that damn tape!?!), but that wasn’t even a part of the calculation I was describing. It’s more of a twisted “circle of life” deal where Connie > Johnny ± Todd < Heather. Or something like that. Even if there is no physical proof at all that Johnny actually shot out Anthony's tires, Connie could still convince everyone of the truth. After all, Johnny was at the top of the suspect list by both Dante and Anna. Connie could fill in a lot of blanks, explaining why Connie (not Kate) was able to blackmail Johnny. While not legally actionable as far as we know, this would still open up Johnny to massive retaliation, specifically from Todd (who has shown an absolute willingness to kill Johnny), possibly Starr, to a lesser extent Michael (protector of Star, guilt over not saving Cole & Hope, yadda yadda yadda). Back to the main event: as long as Todd doesn’t say anything, he and Johnny still have a deal/stalemate with each other and Johnny is presumably safe. However, if someone else aka Connie spills the beans, then Todd has mainly free reign to go after Johnny. (This is the same kind rock and a hard place Todd is between re: the baby switch between Johnny and Heather). So, to clarify the point I was trying to make, Johnny’s issue about Connie as the spoiler telling all to the cops isn’t about legal ramifications but removing the only leverage Johnny has to keep Todd in check. Log in to Reply sassysdreams October 6, 2012 [quote=GHvetfan]Yes, because I misunderstood being called a whiner? Hardly! That is in fact attacking a real person because they do not like a fictional one. And that aint whining. It is simply pointing out there is no misunderstanding.[/quote] GHvetfan – It seems that you did misunderstand me after all. I was not attacking a “real” person because I don’t like a fictional one. I was speaking directly to YOU who I don’t like. And I don’t consider what I said to be an attack as I was simply pointing out the facts of how you regularly behave in response to negative comments made about Elizabeth (a fictional character) or any comments you happen to disagree with!!! If you don’t like how you are preceived by some of us, then perhaps you should give that some thought. As far as I am concerned this conversation is over. You are entitled to your opinions about characters just as I am entitled to mine. But if I read a mean-spirited nasty comment about a character that I enjoy, I am not going to hesitate to respond back in kind to that comment. After all, I’m just following your example. I hope that was clear enough and classy enough for you. Log in to Reply GHvetfan October 6, 2012 Scratching head over confusion of Sassy not really understanding what she writes and the ping pong of Sassy ‘s posts. Moving on ……………. EET – Sam actively participated in Jake’s kidnapping. Hence the Karma. She kidnaps a child and has a child kidnapped? Liz only came into it several months later (4?) I am not spinning anything. You are and have been for years with this tale of a breakdown that has never been written. Did Liz lie for a few hours? Sure ? Is that ghe same thing as actively participating in a kidnapping? Maybe to you and yours. But , no! Log in to Reply GHFan777 October 6, 2012 I like you just fine Vet, and enjoy reading your posts…and I have never perceived you to attack another on here. I see you voicing your opinion of the show and characters, and then unfortunately defending it from other posters at times. To each their own. Personally, I don’t get this endless need to be “in the right” all the time, that some posters insist on. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and there will never be any “real right answer” It is a soap of fictional characters, that the writers take liberties with to suit their agenda at the time. As example RC saying Liz was not supposed to do this, but they needed to go this route to adjust for SBu’s departure. Kemo was leaving back in 2007, so they chose to write her a bad guy because of this…. etc……This is why characters do stupid things at times… However I have noticed that some posters do make negative comments to others, and I don’t agree with that. We aren’t all going to agree with one another, but if you specifically do not like another poster, I think you should refrain from addressing them and ignore their post. I think saying I don’t like you to another is childish. Log in to Reply stefanstavros October 6, 2012 I agree with you GHfan777. When the direct personal attacks occur, such as “I don’t like you”, I believe it reflects a psychological issue present with the attacking poster. I hope, at least, we all realize these are fictional characters on a TV show. So when a direct attack on someone else happens, it MUST show an inadequacy or challenge the poster faces in his or her own life, i.e. control issues…. Log in to Reply maxsmom October 6, 2012 [quote=GHFan777]I like you just fine Vet, and enjoy reading your posts…and I have never perceived you to attack another on here. I see you voicing your opinion of the show and characters, and then unfortunately defending it from other posters at times. To each their own. Personally, I don’t get this endless need to be “in the right” all the time, that some posters insist on. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and there will never be any “real right answer” It is a soap of fictional characters, that the writers take liberties with to suit their agenda at the time. As example RC saying Liz was not supposed to do this, but they needed to go this route to adjust for SBu’s departure. Kemo was leaving back in 2007, so they chose to write her a bad guy because of this…. etc……This is why characters do stupid things at times… Thank you, GHFan777 Log in to Reply GHvetfan October 6, 2012 Ghfan, stefanstavros, maxsmom – Thank you very much for the support. It is greatly appreciated. It doesn’t bother me that Sassy says she doesn’t like me. I like me just fine. She doesn’t know me. I have a family and friends and I have supportive DC buddies. I am doing Ok. I do Not dislike Sassy. I simply disagree. I don’t think you have to agree with others to be cordial. She and I have GH in common.. We just disagree on what is excellent acting and subpar line reading. I cannot embrace an illiterate grifter who endangers children when she doesn’t get what she wants. Sassy doesn’t like the Webbers for some reason. We still have common ground. It is all good. Log in to Reply tealita October 6, 2012 [quote=stefanstavros]I agree with you GHfan777. When the direct personal attacks occur, such as “I don’t like you”, I believe it reflects a psychological issue present with the attacking poster. I hope, at least, we all realize these are fictional characters on a TV show. So when a direct attack on someone else happens, it MUST show an inadequacy or challenge the poster faces in his or her own life, i.e. control issues….[/quote] Seriously? It gets very heated on this board, but it’s way beyond the pale to make assertions about a person’s state of mind or imply that because someone says “I don’t like you” it means that they have a psychological issue. IMHO, that’s an extremely mean-spirited, ad hominem, nasty little bit of vitriol. As far as who needs to be right all the time, IMHO, LizFF are as guilty or guiltier of it than JasamFF and SamFF. Log in to Reply JASAMMABBY October 6, 2012 Tealita you got to it first.. Ditto! There have been times on here that many of these posters jump on me for being critical of Liz. The same posters say all sorts of nasty an vile things about Sam. Yet then you want to call people out for calling out Liz. It is OK for people to dislike her- some posters have total double standards.. Log in to Reply tealita October 6, 2012 [quote=GHvetfan] I cannot embrace (sic) who endangers children when she doesn’t get what she wants. [/quote] Isn’t that what Liz has done? The fact that she apologized doesn’t make it any more right. Log in to Reply sassysdreams October 6, 2012 tealita, JASAMMABBY – Thank you. :love: Log in to Reply GHvetfan October 6, 2012 Tealita- no it just isn’t the same. Liz has no reason to believe little Jason isn’t perfectly safe. Afterall, she knows Sam will endanger children so one could look at it as if Liz is protecting the child. Who is to say Sam would ‘t save herself over the baby? Liz’s perspective- she has more reason to believe a child is safe with Tea who is a stranger over the devil she knows. Nobody is saying Liz is right but she is certainly less wrong. I applaud the desire to protect Sassy. I do not think she has psychological issues. I do think it is interesting that you all are equating someone “attacking” sassy with attacking Sam and overlooking Sassy attacking me. Log in to Reply GHvetfan October 6, 2012 By the way, I almost never think I am right because I while I understand right from wrong in the real world. Soaps are a different kettle of fish. For soaps, i embrace story and characters. I don’t think there is a right and wrong to a Liz and Sam debate. There is only subjective opinion and taste. I like Liz. I like seafood. I like Glee. I don’t like Sam. I don’t like red meat. I never understood anyone’s fascination with reality TV that wasn’t competition and talent based. See, simply my tastes. Now, where right and wrong comes into it is being rude and attacking a poster for something not nice about a character. Real vs. imaginary. Sorry about punctuation and spelling errors. Iphone instead of computer due to a virus for a bit. Log in to Reply EricasEvilTwin October 6, 2012 See right there – you are suggesting that sam would endanger her own child so she is better off with the person who may have participated in the kidnapping. I find that shocking. Liz doesnt KNOW tea or know how tea is as a mother. All she knows is that SOMEONE kidnapped danny and switched him with a dead baby leaving sam to grieve and creating a situation where tea has the child. For all Liz knows Tea made the switch. what we the audience knows and what liz knows are two different things and every moment that child is with tea, assuming that tea didnt take her, is another opportunity for the kidnapper to move the child again. Moreover liz should by now know that heather has escaped – she works with her brother daily and this has to be one of the biggest things in his life right now (the other really being olivia’s lsd situation) and any normal person would be talking about it. Since jason explained when liz handed him the wrong results that he was SURE that this was the child because heather hates sam that SHOULD have at least tipped her a little bit to the idea that heather could be after another way to hurt sam and knows all about the location of the child. For you and liz to say oh tea is safe is no different than sam in the middle of her breakdown saying maureen is safe because all she wants is a child to love and liz is a lying skank so this kidnapping is justified. NEITHER woman was right. And for the record, im not sure why you keep insulting sam for not graduating high school. She was trying to protect her brother from a murder rap and she gave up EVERYTHING, including her opportunity to earn a regular diploma, to protect her family. I may hate how she went about it, but I also understand that 18 year olds dont always have the best judgement. too I admire the sentiment, to protect someone you love at all costs. Since then she HAS earned a ged. That was part of the story with alexis and its a requirement to get a pi license. Moreover we see her reading magazines, saying oh I have books from molly and working on a computer which means she is NOT illiterate. Its kind of snobby imho to suggest that someone who has a ged instead of a diploma is somehow less than. I am also amused by the statement Sassy doesnt like the webbers FOR SOME REASON like the idea that someone doesnt like liz is simply so preposterous that you cant even imagine a reason. lol i could give you a hundred reasons someone might not like Liz webber including the fact that shes a dishonest witch who endangers children. since none of her family could be bothered with her other than steve and audrey its hard to comment on the rest of the webbers. I sort of think steve is a dolt. He sure isnt a very good boyfriend. I love audrey and I use to love jeff. I suspect that sassy doesnt dislike all the webbers any more than I do. And for the record, I would rather have someone flat out say they dont like me than to attack me in a backhanded way, esp. through their surrogates. Stefan some of us have been interacting literally for YEARS on this board. When you see someones impression of various things over that length of time you get a pretty clear picture of what you think of them. Sassy doesnt like vet. Do you like everyone you know? Of course not and that is NOT a sign of psychosis. I think you have way oversimplified things here suggesting this is about not liking someone JUST because they dont like one character or another because in not liking a character for various reasons you are also expressing your tolerance for certain traits and tangentially you make references to your thoughts about certain things IE: I just mentioned that vet’s posts about sams education is sort of a snobby view on geds. Over time you see enough little things about someone that you start to get SOME idea of who they are. Sassy has seen interacted with vet enough and put together enough little things so that she knows she doesnt care for her. Just like others know enough about her to form the opposite view. Is it psychotic to like someone from their posts? A number of us are friends OFF the board. Since one is just the opposite side of the coin, wouldnt both things be equally nutty (or equally IMHO totally normal)? Log in to Reply GHvetfan October 6, 2012 I already covered all of that with the devil you know comment. No need to expand. I was being tongue in check and attempting to lighten the tone but way to dial is back! Bears repeating- i don’t care if Sassy likes me. I don’t think she has psychosis. I don’t have surragates. Seems like Sassy sure does though. Log in to Reply sassysdreams October 6, 2012 Thank you EET! Eloquent as always!!! :love: And for the record I do like the Webbers, just not Elizabeth. As I’ve been watching GH for 39 years, I can say that there were many Webbers that I really liked and enjoyed watching including Elizabeth as a teenager. I just don’t like the adult she turned out to be. Log in to Reply EricasEvilTwin October 7, 2012 I dont see a devil you know comment but if you are suggesting liz knows tea…rme on that idea. Not sure what way to dial means but i guess im not irreverent and sarcastic enough for you, my apologies. I am not sassys surrogate but I am her friend. And you will note my post said nothing about you or anything about whether she is correct in disliking you, just defending her against the unwarranted attack on her character and our individual rights to dislike who we dislike and like who we like. Log in to Reply JasamForever October 7, 2012 Oh wow. I was going to comment but EET beat me to it. To say that Liz is not endagering or would have continued to endanger a child, i.e. baby Daniel is so not true. Since she had the correct paternity results, and KNEW that Tea’s baby was actually Sam’s, then any intelligent individual will wonder hmm how did this happen? How did Sam’s baby and Tea’s baby get switched and who was involved? There is obviously foul play involved and like Jason also told Liz beforehand, he was starting to suspect Sam was right about a baby switch, hence Jason’s investigation and the request to have Tea’s baby tested with Sam to see if they were a match!! So Liz, had to suspect something not right was going on. That should be enough to say, or question that maybe the baby is in danger. And since Liz not too long ago found out that Aiden’s paternity results were tampered with, then I would think she would be a little more sensitive to the whole situation. Log in to Reply js3557 October 8, 2012 I just popped in to see what is going on at DC. It makes me really glad that I have given up GH and I am weaning myself off of DC. The personal attacks and the vehement arguments over fictional characters takes on a new perspective when you step away from all of this for a bit. I found myself shaking my head and wondering why someone would feel the need to insult and try to hurt a real person (not an actor or a celebrity who puts themself out there, but an ordinary person just trying to express her opinion) over a fictional show. GHvetfan – keep your chin up and post-on my friend Log in to Reply GHvetfan October 10, 2012 Js – thank you very much. I am confident that the intent was to hurt my feelings by telling me that they don’t like me. I suppose it could hurt someone if they were sensitive. I am not. Besides, I just found out I am going to be a Grandma. My heart is full. I wish this happiness for everyone. My baby girl is having a baby. Life is good. Log in to Reply soapbaby October 10, 2012 Congrats GHvetfan! Not being liked isn’t the worst thing in the world. I actually think it means you are probably on the right side. LOL. Keep on keeping on! I so appreciate Perkie taking the time out to recap the show and providing the space to comment on the show. Log in to Reply TV Gord October 10, 2012 GHvetfan!!! :party: CONGRATULATIONS!!! :star: What a great event for your family! :beer: Is this your first time to be a GHvetgran? Log in to Reply GHvetfan October 10, 2012 This is not our first grandchild. We have four grandsons. This is my daughters first child though. My husband and I are very excited. She is going to make a great mother. She has wanted it forever. Thank you both for the well wishes. Log in to Reply liason4real October 10, 2012 Ghvetfan,,Congratulations! Log in to Reply thecourt99 October 10, 2012 Unless there have been discussions outside of GH, how can someone know enough about another person to not like them? I just really hope no one makes assumptions about who I am and determines whether or not they like me based upon my love of Dexter (SHO) and Holly/Roger on GL. Log in to Reply stefanstavros October 10, 2012 [quote=thecourt99]Unless there have been discussions outside of GH, how can someone know enough about another person to not like them? I just really hope no one makes assumptions about who I am and determines whether or not they like me based upon my love of Dexter (SHO) and Holly/Roger on GL.[/quote] I agree with you on this point 100%. These feuding posters get WAY too personal and vicious considering we are just talking about TV characters who aren’t even real! LOLOL Log in to Reply js3557 October 10, 2012 Congrats GHvetfan! That’s wonderful news! Log in to Reply Leave a Reply Cancel Reply You must be logged in to post a comment.