Ex-Young and Restless Diva Victoria Rowell Says Les Moonves and Steve Kent Don’t Want Dru Back!





Fans hoping for the day Victoria Rowell would reprise the role of Drucilla Winters on The Young and the Restless received bad news today. The always outspoken actress and author tweeted that Sony TV's Steve Kent, as well as CBS President Leslie Moonves, aren't interested in bringing her or the character of Dru back to the serial. Said Rowell:








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69 Responses

  1. Avatar of alstonboy4315
    alstonboy4315

    Crooked bastards! Les Moonves’ show-killing ass doesn’t care about diversity or anything, other than making sure that he keeps his pockets lined and that Chenbot keeps her job.

    I am sure that Peter Bergman, Michelle “Spit Take” Stafford and Christel “I Need An Enema” Khalil are rejoicing over this news.

    I can’t say I am surprised, though. I knew they had blacklisted my girl. Racism is not a taboo that the folks over at CBS Daytime want to be brought to light, I would imagine. Black characters are treated as afterthoughts on this show, unless they are that mindless bore, Lily Winters.

    Good thing I didn’t have my hopes up! It’s a shame that the folks at Y&R are making such foolish casting choices. Really makes you wonder what their “bottom line” really is………

  2. Avatar of SoapyBitch
    SoapyBitch

    I always hoped that Victoria would get cast as Destiny’s mother on OLTL. I imagined her as business woman. I could just picture her mixing it up with Tea, Todds, Blair,…It’s nearly a year and I still miss that show. I am liking GH, but I thought the OLTL cast across the board was electric. Even those that were meh were brought up by the other actors.

    I am 2 months behind on GH, so I am not sure what happened to Crimson, but get her in there as the head of that or the head of Deception. Anything.

  3. Avatar of sanka9
    sanka9

    When is she going to move on? As much as i like the character the actress’ incessant rantings about who is blocking her return to YR is just embarrassing. Have some pride woman and move on

  4. Avatar of Ryan-Scott
    Ryan-Scott

    I’m sure the CBS HR Dept. doesn’t want an employee who wrote a thinly disguised account of working there again cuz it might happen again down the road.
    I don’t know. I think companies frown on that type of thing.

    I look forward to seeing her pop up somewhere else.

  5. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    I am not surprised but still VERY DISAPPOINTED. They are still blackballing this woman for telling the truth. What a shame! And it is going to continue to be a blow to their ratings. Y&R will never recover without a strong AA presence. And VR was just the AA to do it. BUt it seems CBS is content to bite off their nose to spite their face.

    I noticed that comment about going to another network. I wonder what that was about.

    Anyways, this is just the news I needed to let go Y&R for good.

    And for those who say that VR needs to let go, you obviously haven’t been on her twitter page. She gets 100 tweets a day about Dru anc coming back. So finally she responded.

    I hope that the shows ratings continue to fall. Featuring MS/Phyllis daily and every other white woman does nothing for that show. But let them keep up with the insanity of doing the same thing over and over again.

    I feel sorry for KSJ. Without Dru or a strong female character that is showcased, he won’t get much work. The entire Winters clan suffers from her not being on the show. I am sure that Devon probably would have had a real romance by now if he had a momma to interfere. *sigh* The Winters really have no hope.

  6. Avatar of Sward81333
    Sward81333

    She keeps beating this dead horse. She got too big for Y&R, quit and burned her bridges. Les Moonves, is without doubt, the tops in his field. But, he’s all business and leaves emotion at the door. That’s his job. If soaps are profitable, they’ll stay. If not, they’ll go. It is that simple. Don’t get me wrong, I love soaps … but they’re no longer the profit centers they were in the 60s & 70s.

  7. Avatar of harlee490
    harlee490

    I don’t get this at all! Bringing back Dru would definitely be a ratings grabber and fans are WANTING for Drucilla to return. Does anyone know if VR has burnt bridges and why? I read and heard some of the rumors but VR couldn’t had been worse then some of the dust-ups backstage compared to the shennigans that has been happening lately on Y&R with the cast. :(( :((

  8. Avatar of blake3b
    blake3b

    Sucks, cause Y&R could use some spicing up on the show these days. And Drucilla would definitely do that! Can Phyllis please take a back seat, be on the back burner for a while and let Dru take that spot?

  9. Avatar of ER Writer
    ER Writer

    Personally, I’m kind of tired of the Vicky vs. Y&R thing.
    I get that people love her character, and so do I, but at this point I would rather see her develop a primetime soap and stop worrying about CBS Daytime.

  10. Avatar of met
    met

    [quote]Ex-Young and Restless Diva Victoria Rowell Says Les Moonves and Steve Kent Don’t Want Dru Back! [/quote]yep another day and yet another individual – well individuals to blame.

    Moving right along.

    [quote]She keeps beating this dead horse. She got too big for Y&R, quit and burned her bridges. Les Moonves, is without doubt, the tops in his field. But, he’s all business and leaves emotion at the door. That’s his job. If soaps are profitable, they’ll stay. If not, they’ll go. It is that simple. Don’t get me wrong, I love soaps … but they’re no longer the profit centers they were in the 60s & 70s.[/quote] Excellent point.

  11. Avatar of cashton
    cashton

    Let me just say that, barring a miracle, the final nail in VR’s Dru coffin has been nailed. I only hope the media and press will stop teasing fans with return rumors. Never happenin…

  12. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    [quote=harlee490]I don’t get this at all! Bringing back Dru would definitely be a ratings grabber and fans are WANTING for Drucilla to return. Does anyone know if VR has burnt bridges and why? I read and heard some of the rumors but VR couldn’t had been worse then some of the dust-ups backstage compared to the shennigans that has been happening lately on Y&R with the cast. :(( :(([/quote]

    They are black-balling her because she stood up and cried foul on daytime hiring practices and treatment of minorities. She tried to enact change behind the scenes and of course no one in power liked it because it threatened their positions. They have labeled her a trouble maker for not going along to get along. That pretty much sums up the story.

  13. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    [quote=cashton]Let me just say that, barring a miracle, the final nail in VR’s Dru coffin has been nailed. I only hope the media and press will stop teasing fans with return rumors. Never happenin…[/quote]

    Yep…this is the final nail…and I think she knows it too which is why she is stating the facts on twitter. She will never be back on Y&R. I just hope these fools don’t try to recast and further alienate the fans.

  14. Avatar of Cyberologist
    Cyberologist

    I don’t know why this is being brought up again maybe one of her fans asked if Dru would return they often do so she just told the truth; as a VR fan I hope this is the end of it the network and its company doesn’t want her.

    Enough said.

  15. Avatar of rlshel1015
    rlshel1015

    i’m sorry but TPTB need to realize that they have to do what’s best for the show and having Dru back would be best for the show. the Winter’s family have been in limbo since her departure and they should have learned this when they tried to recast Malcolm and brought on Sophia (who is no Dru). the fact of the matter is that in the real world you have to work with people that you don’t get along with PB, MS and CK need to swallow their childish pride and do what’s best for the show. you don’t have to go out to lunch with VR, but do your scenes and move on. if Sony wants to do away with rumors of racism then bring VR back and i am pretty sure that in these times where it’s hard to find another job, the haters with bite their tongues and deal with it. i agree that VR can move on. i can see her on GH as Epiphany’s sister that can take over as the gossip columnist for Todd’s paper. Roger Howarth and VR would burn the screen with their chemistry …

  16. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    [quote=Cyberologist]I don’t know why this is being brought up again maybe one of her fans asked if Dru would return they often do so she just told the truth; as a VR fan I hope this is the end of it the network and its company doesn’t want her.

    Enough said.[/quote]

    I read her twitter and she gets so many tweets from fans begging her to come back to Y&R. So it appears she just decided to put the truth out there to stop the asking. Her tweets says this happened friday…I am sure she found out about it Friday too. I too hope this is the end of it as sad as that makes me. Let Sony/CBS/Y&R leanr there lesson the hard way. SHowcasing Phyllis and Sharon daily does nothing for their show.

  17. Avatar of THEBEST
    THEBEST

    I LOVE Victoria Rowell, but the character of Drucilla Winters has to return & can be recast. Even if they wanna keep the character dead, Neil just needs a STRONG leading lady. Hell, Angell Conwell is right there. Give that girl a contract & flesh out the character of Leslie. They need to Maureen Bauer Sophia’s tired ass. I would kill for Renee Jones to be a recast Dru. I don’t believe that “retirement” bullshit one bit. Sony gave her the Peter Reckell treatment & she gave them the deuces. We’ll see what Y&R has in store to rebuild the Winters family.

  18. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    [quote=rlshel1015]i’m sorry but TPTB need to realize that they have to do what’s best for the show and having Dru back would be best for the show. the Winter’s family have been in limbo since her departure and they should have learned this when they tried to recast Malcolm and brought on Sophia (who is no Dru). the fact of the matter is that in the real world you have to work with people that you don’t get along with PB, MS and CK need to swallow their childish pride and do what’s best for the show. you don’t have to go out to lunch with VR, but do your scenes and move on. if Sony wants to do away with rumors of racism then bring VR back and i am pretty sure that in these times where it’s hard to find another job, the haters with bite their tongues and deal with it. i agree that VR can move on. i can see her on GH as Epiphany’s sister that can take over as the gossip columnist for Todd’s paper. Roger Howarth and VR would burn the screen with their chemistry …[/quote]

    At this point, I don’t think it is the actors…I think it is the executives showcasing their power by keeping her off the show. You know, “how dare you try to make us hire minorities, we don’t want them here”..

    I also agree that hiring her back would dispel the racism rumors…but really, ABC needs to get her on GH and see what she can do for thier ratings.

  19. Avatar of MsAgentProvocateur1
    MsAgentProvocateur1

    It’s truly Y&R’s loss.
    I stopped watching about 3 years ago and I am considering whether I want to committ precious time to sit down and watch, other than the 2 episodes I watched on You Tube last week.

    I’m not saying I won’t tune in now but unless this show adds some Sizzle (other than the same Newman junk), it is doubtful that this show will ever count me as a loyal viewer again.

    In terms of Victoria Rowell, I’ve heard rumours that Debbie Morgan might revive A Different World. I’ve also heard that there may be a revival of the Fame Television series. I’m dubious about this, to say the least. In the off-chance that this does happen, Victoria would be great on either show. She could play a College Professor in the Science dept. who becomes a colleague of Dwayne Wayne and a potential foil to Whitley. She could also be the protege to Lydia Grant, teaching classic and modern dance. But I don’t know if either of this will ever happen, but I think Rowell can do many things and I wish her well.

    It’s the same reason why I cheer on Camryn Grimes and hope that she becomes Y&R’s answer to Julianne Moore, a likeable and talented redhead who springboards from Soaps successfully to Academy Award nominations and Emmy Awards.

    Y&R can only elicit a shrug from me at this time.

  20. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    [quote=THEBEST]I LOVE Victoria Rowell, but the character of Drucilla Winters has to return & can be recast. Even if they wanna keep the character dead, Neil just needs a STRONG leading lady. Hell, Angell Conwell is right there. Give that girl a contract & flesh out the character of Leslie. They need to Maureen Bauer Sophia’s tired ass. I would kill for Renee Jones to be a recast Dru. I don’t believe that “retirement” bullshit one bit. Sony gave her the Peter Reckell treatment & she gave them the deuces. We’ll see what Y&R has in store to rebuild the Winters family.[/quote]

    I don’t think a recast will go over very well nor do I think it will do anything to improve the ratings. I agree that Neil neds a strong leading lady. But he also needs one who they will write for. One that has relationships and history in that town. No one new will have that.

    At this point, my gut is telling me that TPTB think that the Winters have outlived their use. I don’t think either one of them is long for this show. I suspect they will go the OLTL formula. A latino core family with a revolving door of AA characters. Of course, OLTL was cancelled using this formula but maybe that’s what SOny and CBS wants.

  21. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    [quote=missmuffett41]That what I want to know. Didn’t Debbie Morgan try to get her hired on at ALL MY CHILDREN? I guess daytime tv wants nothing to do with Victoria Rowell.[/quote]

    Victoria Rowell also tried to get Debbi MOrgan hired at Y&R back in 2004/2005 but CBS/Sony wanted nothing to do with it or her. But when it came time for them to try to replace Dru without relaving Dru with a big name, they called her up.

    She is very vocal about diversity and I think that many networks don’t want to deal with that…they are fine and happy with the sttus quo.

  22. Avatar of doctormo77
    doctormo77

    I was hoping that Victoria Rowell would be able to return. It would be interesting to see what the new regime could do with Dru. Especially with Neil in control of Jabot. Let’s be real folks…if Les Moonvess had no problem letting Charlie Sheen go, then you know he is not going to lose sleep worrying about Victoria Rowell rejoining the Young & The Restless.

    Now on to funnier topics…

    [quote=SoapyBitch]I always hoped that Victoria would get cast as Destiny’s mother on OLTL. I imagined her as business woman. I could just picture her mixing it up with Tea, Todds, Blair,…It’s nearly a year and I still miss that show.[/quote]

    When I read that post, my first thought was trying to imagine Victoria Rowell giving birth to Big Sean Evans. Lord in the morning! I burst out laughing. Then I imagined a Ron and Frank what if/comedy episode of OLTL featuring a flashback of Sean’s birth. Once I stopped laughing I realized that SoapyBitch meant Destiny’s biological mother. Then the thought of Victoria Rowell being in a scene with Terrell Tilford’s Greg Evans caused me to start laughing again!

  23. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    [quote=Restless Vixen]While I definitely think Drucilla returning would be a huge ratings grab and I would love to see VR back on Y&R…
    Victoria Rowell needs to let it go. Girl, give it up – turn it loose! Move on, turn the page. I’m saying this as a person who generally likes her. But if the head honchos are saying NO – it’s time to move on. She has exhausted every avenue – from writing a loosely based autobiography, tapping her co-stars to advocate for her, getting the National Urban League involved, etc. I’m not saying VR’s actions are totally wrong, but there’s a risk when you go that route. CBS/Sony seem to be addressing the minority issue (or at least making an attempt) by hiring Susan Dansby (sp?) who still is writing for the show, one of the recent directors has an Arab/Middle eastern sounding last name (one of the better directors, I might add), hiring two new African American males (finally!) and at least two Latinos will be entering the canvas. They’ve even been hiring minorities for several of the small dayplayer roles for certain plots like cops, doctors, judges, etc – something before the Urban League was brought in. So, to me after all of this and they still don’t want DRUCILLA to be brought back at this time – is it really about minorities on the show/behind the scenes…or it all of her activity just about her? And I’m not so sure CBS and Sony’s objections are just about PB/MS/CK anymore. Just saying – PB’s character has been losing to Victor Newman for a generation, MS was recently all huffy about losing her Phick pairing, and they were thisclose to letting CK go (her recurring status makes it easier to drop her if TPTB decide to do so with her having a contract or a guarantee). So I’m not quite as convinced TPTB are solely doing the bidding of those three actors.
    I’m just saying, I’m trying to be objective. One of her tweets said something about not needing a Charlie Sheen moment to send her packing. I really wish she’d be the bigger person and just move on to something else. Why keep asking to be brought back where you obviously are not wanted?[/quote]

    FYI..that Urban league stuff happened years ago right after she left the show. And that was when they hired Susan Dansby who they never really give any work too. And yes, hiring day players and having folks on the show just for show is not diversity. Which is the entire point. VR isn’t saying anything that we don’t know and don’t see on our screen 5 days a week.

  24. Avatar of Restless Vixen
    Restless Vixen

    While I definitely think Drucilla returning would be a huge ratings grab and I would love to see VR back on Y&R…

    Victoria Rowell needs to let it go. Girl, give it up – turn it loose! Move on, turn the page. I’m saying this as a person who generally likes her. But if the head honchos are saying NO – it’s time to move on. She has exhausted every avenue – from writing a loosely based autobiography, tapping her co-stars to advocate for her, getting the National Urban League involved, etc. I’m not saying VR’s actions are totally wrong, but there’s a risk when you go that route. CBS/Sony seem to be addressing the minority issue (or at least making an attempt) by hiring Susan Dansby (sp?) who still is writing for the show, one of the recent directors has an Arab/Middle eastern sounding last name (one of the better directors, I might add), hiring two new African American males (finally!) and at least two Latinos will be entering the canvas. They’ve even been hiring minorities for several of the small dayplayer roles for certain plots like cops, doctors, judges, etc – something before the Urban League was brought in. So, to me after all of this and they still don’t want DRUCILLA to be brought back at this time – is it really about minorities on the show/behind the scenes…or it all of her activity just about her? And I’m not so sure CBS and Sony’s objections are just about PB/MS/CK anymore. Just saying – PB’s character has been losing to Victor Newman for a generation, MS was recently all huffy about losing her Phick pairing, and they were thisclose to letting CK go (her recurring status makes it easier to drop her if TPTB decide to do so with her having a contract or a guarantee). So I’m not quite as convinced TPTB are solely doing the bidding of those three actors. I may not agree with their decision, but clearly they have made it and they aren’t budging.

    I’m just saying, I’m trying to be objective. One of her tweets said something about not needing a Charlie Sheen moment to send her packing. I really wish she’d be the bigger person and just move on to something else. Why keep asking to be brought back where you obviously are not wanted? I hope she has been doing more than just beating this drum these last few years. She might have been able to secure work elsewhere (though I know roles for African American women as they get older get more scarce), but I have no idea how much she has been auditioning.

  25. Avatar of Restless Vixen
    Restless Vixen

    @Divatude

    I’m not talking about when VR first left the show. I am talking about what happened just last year. It was reported right here at DC: http://daytimeconfidential.zap2it.com/2011/01/06/wowser-victoria-rowell-enlists-national-urban-league-in-fight-against-yr-sony

    I’m not disagreeing that the last few years of Y&R have been less than stellar in terms of the minority storylines, but it seems to me that efforts are being made to improve that. Is it perfect? No, but it’s not like CBS/Sony have done nothing in this regard. So her complaints have been heard. It just looks to me they just don’t want to rehire HER. Again, I think that’s a bad business decision (in terms of ratings), but it seems like they have made that decision and are going forward without Victoria Rowell.

  26. Avatar of sanka9
    sanka9

    [quote=Restless Vixen] CBS/Sony seem to be addressing the minority issue (or at least making an attempt) by hiring Susan Dansby (sp?) who still is writing for the show, one of the recent directors has an Arab/Middle eastern sounding last name (one of the better directors, I might add)[/quote]
    Sony or JFP already fired Azar Habib

  27. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    [quote=Restless Vixen]@DivatudeI’m not talking about when VR first left the show. I am talking about what happened just last year. It was reported right here at DC: http://daytimeconfidential.zap2it.com/2011/01/06/wowser-victoria-rowell-enlists-national-urban-league-in-fight-against-yr-sony/quote

    Awe yeah…that was when they brought on Susan Dansby who rarely writes for the show…and hired the actor that played Nate but only had about 4 shows. CBS/Sony, I tell ya the truth. They really make VR’s case for her.

  28. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    [quote=Marland Fan]You know what? It’s OK to be outspoken and all that, but then don’t be surprised when it comes back to bite you in the @ss.[/quote]

    If this were the 60′s I have no doubt that VR would have been long dead. Just saying…

  29. Avatar of thecourt99
    thecourt99

    I said this on another site and I will say it here.

    I applaud Victoria Rowell for what she has done to date. The person that makes the noise is the one that gets the flack…but ultimately, they also pave the way. VR is forever bashed for her audacity to tell the truth…which is simply that CBS needed better diversity behind the scenes. She is called crazy because she fights for inequality? She is called difficult to work with when other actors behind the scenes have had fisticuffs? But for some reason, VR has done something so horrible that she can’t return? What she did was reveal the inner workings, and no one wants their dirt out..especially when there is a racist twinge.

    So keep up the fight Vickey. If CBS ever changes, you will be on the list of people that helped pave the way. Change is never instant, but it is long lasting.

  30. Avatar of Patchworks
    Patchworks

    “Then the thought of Victoria Rowell being in a scene with Terrell Tilford’s Greg Evans caused me to start laughing again!”

    Actually, Ms. Rowell played opposite Terrell Tilford on Single Ladies this past season. She has been quite busy, doing appearances on shows like Single Ladies and Let’s Stay Together.

    I have every faith she will find other opportunities to express her talents. But the fact remains that daytime has no appreciation of its own, from the talented actors it has mistreated and rejected (like Victoria Rowell, Ellen Holly, and even the unemployed Erika Slezak and Susan Lucci) to the legacy of now-defunct soaps. Daytime is one of the few genres that disdains its own audience. I’m losing patience…

  31. Avatar of SoapArmageddon
    SoapArmageddon

    [quote=glowery]…I don’t want this over the top drama queen back on the show either.[/quote]

    Just about EVERY member of the cast, men and women, on this show is a drama queen. I wonder why she’s being singled out.

  32. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    [quote=SoapArmageddon][quote=glowery]…I don’t want this over the top drama queen back on the show either.[/quote]Just about EVERY member of the cast, men and women, on this show is a drama queen. I wonder why she’s being singled out.[/quote]

    True…that was exposed long ago.

  33. Avatar of Yoryla
    Yoryla

    Well this doesn’t exactly come as a shock.

    I’m sorry for Victoria Rowell, I love her as an actress, and I love the character of Dru Winters. But the writing has been on the wall for a long time. It is a commonly known fact that employers do not want difficult people back on their show. Especially in these times and ages, it is clear they want people who come in and do the best job they can and then go home. Diva-esque antics don’t go over well. When you burn your bridges, you burn your bridges.

  34. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    [quote=Yoryla]Well this doesn’t exactly come as a shock.
    I’m sorry for Victoria Rowell, I love her as an actress, and I love the character of Dru Winters. But the writing has been on the wall for a long time. It is a commonly known fact that employers do not want difficult people back on their show. Especially in these times and ages, it is clear they want people who come in and do the best job they can and then go home. Diva-esque antics don’t go over well. When you burn your bridges, you burn your bridges.[/quote]

    Then Y&R don’t want many of the actors they have on that show. Not EB and certainly not MM.

  35. Avatar of SwanQueen59
    SwanQueen59

    This makes me very sad. :~ This talented, lovely actress would improve/add to Y&R in three areas: 1)Diversity, 2)Overall performance quality (I find her presence gets others to up their game), and 3) Bringing eyeballs to watch which more often than not, gets the ratings up. It can’t just be the Phyllis and Victor show (with sides of Nick, Sharon and anybody else)… 0:)

  36. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    [quote=Yoryla]Well this doesn’t exactly come as a shock.
    I’m sorry for Victoria Rowell, I love her as an actress, and I love the character of Dru Winters. But the writing has been on the wall for a long time. It is a commonly known fact that employers do not want difficult people back on their show. Especially in these times and ages, it is clear they want people who come in and do the best job they can and then go home. Diva-esque antics don’t go over well. When you burn your bridges, you burn your bridges.[/quote]

    Then Y&R don’t want many of the actors they have on that show. Not EB and certainly not MM.

  37. Avatar of Yoryla
    Yoryla

    [quote=Divatude58]
    Then Y&R don’t want many of the actors they have on that show. Not EB and certainly not MM.[/quote]

    Make no mistake, if MM left, I don’t see him being welcomed back with open arms.

    It is very sad, because these kinds of things have nothing to do with the acting itself. VR is a VERY talented actress, and/but there is a reason for that. She is feisty, she has good intuition. She knows what works and what doesn’t. I’m thinking she knows it TOO well, for it to go over with the Sony execs. But: the irony is, if she were the kind of goody-two-shoes type of actress, then she also would not be the actress she is. So you can’t take one personality trait away without affecting the other. Too bad they can’t see things that way.

  38. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    [quote=Yoryla][quote=Divatude58]
    Then Y&R don’t want many of the actors they have on that show. Not EB and certainly not MM.[/quote]
    Make no mistake, if MM left, I don’t see him being welcomed back with open arms.
    It is very sad, because these kinds of things have nothing to do with the acting itself. VR is a VERY talented actress, and/but there is a reason for that. She is feisty, she has good intuition. She knows what works and what doesn’t. I’m thinking she knows it TOO well, for it to go over with the Sony execs. But: the irony is, if she were the kind of goody-two-shoes type of actress, then she also would not be the actress she is. So you can’t take one personality trait away without affecting the other. Too bad they can’t see things that way.[/quote]

    Very insightful post…very insightful.

  39. Avatar of yojoromo4469
    yojoromo4469

    [quote=SoapGirl]Move on Vic, you’re better than these dogs.[/quote]

    It is too bad that she didn’t understand a long time ago, that she would never be back on Y and R. I really don’t understand why she doesn’t give it up and move on. Oh! I forgot, no one wants to hire her.

  40. Avatar of pferrando
    pferrando

    It’s obvious to me from the almost 50 posts already that the fans are very passionate about her regardless of her supposed on set antics.

    The thing that Sony forgets is that the fans mostly don’t care about that and they only care about what is on their screen.

    With the shrinking soap audience everyone should give this relationship another chance since it is what the SOAP VIEWING fans want. Surely there would be a discussion with Ms Vic before she was hired back.

    I don’t think Sony has a clue really, and I doubt they read the fan sites.

    They are missing a prime opportunity to bring her on with the recent changes. Execs just aren’t in touch.

  41. Avatar of missmuffett41
    missmuffett41

    [quote=Divatude58][quote=missmuffett41]That what I want to know. Didn’t Debbie Morgan try to get her hired on at ALL MY CHILDREN? I guess daytime tv wants nothing to do with Victoria Rowell.[/quote]

    Victoria Rowell also tried to get Debbi MOrgan hired at Y&R back in 2004/2005 but CBS/Sony wanted nothing to do with it or her. But when it came time for them to try to replace Dru without relaving Dru with a big name, they called her up.

    She is very vocal about diversity and I think that many networks don’t want to deal with that…they are fine and happy with the sttus quo.[/quote]

    @ Divatude58 I wish Sony and CBS would wake up and realize they need someone like Drucilla to wake the Winter’s clan out of their coma. CK is the #1 snoozer out of the Winter’s clan.

  42. Avatar of MadDogLane
    MadDogLane

    so over her and her drama queen antics. talk about beating a dead horse, given how cray cray she comes across 99% of the time, I can see why they don’t want her back

  43. Avatar of Pure_Diva
    Pure_Diva

    I still don’t get why VR wants to come back to a show and a cast that she has derided so incessantly. There’s no rationale to thinking all of her bridges were not burned even before she wrote that book where she insulted everybody all the way through. I like Dru, but even if I wasn’t on YR, I wouldn’t want to work with VR – if for nothing else but the drama factor. Who needs that type of drama at work everyday? I have a girl at my job that I want to fire right now just because she’s always keeping stuff stirred up and plays the victim at least once per week. It’s exhausting, so I can’t imagine what it must have been like to manage VR.

    Girlfriend, go find some dignity. Give it up, turn it loose. (Looking for my EnVogue CD now…)

  44. Avatar of really
    really

    Sorry isn’t she known to be a lot of trouble on set? I can see why they wouldn’t want her back, most of the time if you’re difficult and have a bad rep you don’t get asked back unless you really add value to the company and I from what I have read she doesn’t.

  45. Avatar of met
    met

    I still don’t get why VR wants to come back to a show and a cast that she has derided so incessantly. There’s no rationale to thinking all of her bridges were not burned even before she wrote that book where she insulted everybody all the way through. I like Dru, but even if I wasn’t on YR, I wouldn’t want to work with VR – if for nothing else but the drama factor. Who needs that type of drama at work everyday? I have a girl at my job that I want to fire right now just because she’s always keeping stuff stirred up and plays the victim at least once per week. It’s exhausting, so I can’t imagine what it must have been like to manage VR.

    Girlfriend, go find some dignity. Give it up, turn it loose. (Looking for my EnVogue CD now…)

    :beer: cheers to your comment
    :bigsmile: especially on searching for the EnVogue CD

  46. Avatar of Greeneb2
    Greeneb2

    [quote=Sward81333]She keeps beating this dead horse. She got too big for Y&R, quit and burned her bridges. Les Moonves, is without doubt, the tops in his field. But, he’s all business and leaves emotion at the door. That’s his job. If soaps are profitable, they’ll stay. If not, they’ll go. It is that simple. Don’t get me wrong, I love soaps … but they’re no longer the profit centers they were in the 60s & 70s.[/quote]

    Daytime Pays For Prime Time, Says Donna Mills (ex-Laura Donnelly Elliott, Love Is A Many Splendored Thing, ex-Abby Fairgate Cunningham Ewing Sumner, Knots Landing!

    The soaps were indeed money-makers in the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, & part of the very early 1990s!

    Brian :-)

  47. Avatar of MsAgentProvocateur1
    MsAgentProvocateur1

    [quote=pferrando]It’s obvious to me from the almost 50 posts already that the fans are very passionate about her regardless of her supposed on set antics. The thing that Sony forgets is that the fans mostly don’t care about that and they only care about what is on their screen.
    With the shrinking soap audience everyone should give this relationship another chance since it is what the SOAP VIEWING fans want. Surely there would be a discussion with Ms Vic before she was hired back.
    I don’t think Sony has a clue really, and I doubt they read the fan sites.
    They are missing a prime opportunity to bring her on with the recent changes. Execs just aren’t in touch.[/quote]

    We often haven’t agreed but I agree with you on all your points stated here.

    As much as I think Y&R needed a change from MAB, this new regime is something of an experiment. It doesn’t guarantee that Y&R will survive 4 years from now. The jury is still out on how many viewers they can actually bring back to this show.

  48. Avatar of noway
    noway

    Why would she want to go where she is not wanted?

    The writing is crap.

    Didn’t she write a book about her former employer? Wouldn’t bode well in the real world don’t think it would bode well in Hollywood.

    It’s been 5+ years woman, give it up.

  49. Avatar of SZima
    SZima

    [quote=sanka9]When is she going to move on? As much as i like the character, the actress’ incessant rantings about who is blocking her return to YR is just embarrassing. Have some pride woman and move on[/quote]

    Amen! sanka9, you took the words right out of my mind.

    I honestly can’t believe people are still pissing and moaning about this. It’s time to move on people!

  50. Avatar of Worldturner
    Worldturner

    [quote=Divatude58]
    FYI..that Urban league stuff happened years ago right after she left the show. And that was when they hired Susan Dansby who they never really give any work too. And yes, hiring day players and having folks on the show just for show is not diversity. Which is the entire point. VR isn’t saying anything that we don’t know and don’t see on our screen 5 days a week.[/quote]

    Susan Dansby wasn’t hired years ago. It was in 2011 after ATWT ended. She had been well respected there for years and CBS knew her as well as she worked for Hogan Sheffer for years. I like to think it was her talent that got her the job and not her race. They absolutely give work to her. She did however recently take some time off of her own choice.

  51. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    [quote=Worldturner][quote=Divatude58]
    FYI..that Urban league stuff happened years ago right after she left the show. And that was when they hired Susan Dansby who they never really give any work too. And yes, hiring day players and having folks on the show just for show is not diversity. Which is the entire point. VR isn’t saying anything that we don’t know and don’t see on our screen 5 days a week.[/quote]Susan Dansby wasn’t hired years ago. It was in 2011 after ATWT ended. She had been well respected there for years and CBS knew her as well as she worked for Hogan Sheffer for years. I like to think it was her talent that got her the job and not her race. They absolutely give work to her. She did however recently take some time off of her own choice.[/quote]

    That’s interesting, because her twitter feed said otherwise. When asked whether she was still writing for Y&R, she said yes, but not much (paraphrase) then ended with you gotta “love Lane”…lol. It stuck out due to the love Lane part. I hate Lane. LOL.

  52. Avatar of anny.halle
    anny.halle

    This is why Moonves and Kent’s statements are so significant. Many years we have had to deal with VR stirring up her fans to campaign to get her back on the show. Time and time again she has hinted that she would climb up that cliff. Tptb never said a word. Finally the top dogs have laid that all to rest. I for one am glad she will never return. Moonves and Kent didnt get where they are by being fools. Only a fool would rehire this woman after she said and has written books slandering her fellow cast mates and YR. She may have had some valid points when it came to diversity at YR but it is all in the way you say a thing. She was down right mean when it came to some of the things she said about her co-stars/ There simply was no need for some of the things she said. It was vindictive and mean. What goes around does come around.

  53. Avatar of kourtnie
    kourtnie

    Oh please…They would be stupid to hire her back after what she did to them…She acted completely unprofessional and nobody wants to deal with the type of person who makes lies up when she does not get her own way…She did this to herself. She started rumors about a network and producers because she asked to be a writer on the show and they turned her down, so she cried racism (mind you they do not allow ANY of the actors/actresses on the show to write for them, they never have). She left the show before her contract was up forcing them to re write story lines to have Drucilla fall from a cliff. It is a liability to have a whack job working for them after the lies she keeps spreading. She put herself in the predicament she is in and has nobody to blame but herself. Is there a law saying that black people have to be cast on TV shows now??? They shouldn’t have to fear being called racist because they do not have a cast full of black people…I am glad this network is not bowing down to her blackmailing them-so now that they didn’t give in she will continue to spread lies-but most people can see what really happened here.

  54. Avatar of kourtnie
    kourtnie

    Yes- Susan Dansby was hired in 2011 after ATWT ended- She was a writer for that show for 11 years and was also part of the Guiding Light writing team (so obviously neither Victoria Rowell or the Urban league forced them into hiring a black writer on the network with their bogus claims) Why should every show be required to have black writers anyway? Maybe their are better more qualified white writers?

  55. Avatar of stoney07
    stoney07

    I am so sick and tired of people saying VR was unprofessional for stating her truth. If I worked on Y&R and was treated unfairly and then after I left the show some people had little “Smart Remarks” about me…well, I would say what I had to say about them too. And I don’t care how many times Victoria Rowell responded to her fans on twitter, the fact still remains, in the words of Dru, these people don’t give a good kitty about the welfare of Y&R, because if they did, they would use the one SURE FIRE ratings grabber that they have. But they aren’t.

    Then of course you have a bunch of people on message boards bashing Victoria Rowell for not being a good ole gal and for talkin’ bout massa behind the scenes. I’m tired of these people blaming what happened on VR. I’m tired of people making it seem as though she has nothing going on outside of Y&R. I’m just tired. I’m frustrated with every post that is about Victoria Rowell because the same people come in saying the same things, of which NONE of them can relate or understand. Half the people making these comments are not faced with inequality on a daily basis in the workplace….while others ARE. Hell, I deal with it and I’m mixed. My point is…Vctoria Rowell is an ASSET to the show, and if these people are too dense to see it, then fine. I’m not one of those that campaigned so hard to get VR on the show, but I do see wrong as wrong. The woman spoke out about something she believed….the same damn way Peter Bergman, Jeanne Cooper, Eric Braeden, and even Michael Muhney do. But the moment one of the “coloreds” speaks out, and YES I’m making this a racial thing, they either get blacklisted or backburned (KSJ anyone?). It’s sickening and the fact that some people are still walking around with rose colored glasses amazes me. I’d rather you directly be a racist to me than to sit behind a computer screen and indirectly make racial statements. It grates my nerves.

    Maybe this was inappropriate, but I sure as hell feel better….lol

  56. Avatar of RebeccaJ
    RebeccaJ

    @THEBEST, I agree. I think the role CAN be recast. There have been so many recasts over the years that I thought I’d NEVER accept, but I have and so have others. The role of Dru Winters is no different. I don’t care how much of a stamp people put on their characters, no one is irreplaceable.

  57. Avatar of Crystal_Ann
    Crystal_Ann

    [quote=stoney07]I am so sick and tired of people saying VR was unprofessional for stating her truth. If I worked on Y&R and was treated unfairly and then after I left the show some people had little “Smart Remarks” about me…well, I would say what I had to say about them too.
    The woman spoke out about something she believed….the same damn way Peter Bergman, Jeanne Cooper, Eric Braeden, and even Michael Muhney do. But the moment one of the “coloreds” speaks out, and YES I’m making this a racial thing, they either get blacklisted or backburned (KSJ anyone?).[/quote]

    People have the right to express their opinions about VR including the negative opinions.

    It’s understandable that some find VR’s comments unprofessional, she did more than state the truth or speak out about what she believes in…she constantely trashes her former castmates and employers (why she would want to work with them if they are as awful as she claims they are, I personally will never understand). Some of the things she has said about CK have been cruel and completely unnecessary.

    I agree that there does seem to be a double standard between the black and white cast members on the show judging from how KSJ got backburnered for speaking his mind but if Peter Bergman, Jeanne Cooper, Eric Braeden or Michael Muhney made a serious accusation about their employers, they would likely be fired.

    I love VR as an actress and want her character to return, but I can’t blame her former employers for not wanting her back, not many people would be willing to work with a person who have accused them of racism. Unfortunely she blew any chance of her ever returning to Y&R especially after her remarks about Les Moonves and Steve Kent.

  58. Avatar of yojoromo4469
    yojoromo4469

    [quote=sanka9]When is she going to move on? As much as i like the character the actress’ incessant rantings about who is blocking her return to YR is just embarrassing. Have some pride woman and move on[/quote]

    Isn’t this crap just very annoying? Why would U want to keep trying to get back to somewhere that you were not welcome? In my opinion, if she was so great, she would have a job on some other show. I think she let her mouth overload her asshole and made a bigger ass out of her self by talking this subject to death.

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