Is Vanessa Marcil a Psychoanalyst or Just Plain Psycho Tonight on Hawaii Five-0?






Look out, McGarrett (Alex O' Loughlin). You're about to investigate the sexiest murder suspect since Michael Douglas tangled with Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct! On tonight's episode of Hawaii Five-0, Vanessa Marcil plays Dr. Olivia Victor, a psychoanalyst who could be involved in the death of a patient. Watch a clip of the General Hospital alum sexing up paradise after the jump!




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hawaii 5-o is a racist tv show. Asian americans are the majority of the hawaii population and yet this stupid tv show has to have the lead characters be white. Majority of tv shows have to be told from the white perspective. This tv show is such a racist piece of crap. It couldn't even cast the leads as Asian americans. They have to bow down and make the white actors take center stage as usual. Hollywood is racist as hell!

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wow calm down 2 of the leads are asian, and several of the supporting cast members are Asian. The show also represents many Hawaiian customs a lot. Could it do a better job? Of course but it is one of the few shows on TV that have Asians featured at all much less in such a leading way.

In terms of the show, I enjoy it weekly, its fun and the cast has great chemistry. Plus I love seeing Hawaii, so amazing. This week was amazing VMG was fabulous, she killed her scenes and you could tell that they were having fun in them.

I think this was the best episode of the season. McGarrett and Dano playing off of VMG's character was hilarious and compelling. Real fun entertainment.

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Are you for real "really"?

McGarrett and Dano are the leads and the show's hawaii based. That reeks of racism. This reboot should have cast Asian americans as the leads. This is a sysytemic problem of hollywood bec they love being racist towards Asian americans.

1. cloud atlas decides to use yellowface and have non-Asian actors portray Asian characters yet they cast a black actor for the role of the slave character bec hollywood knew blackface would be offensive.

2. yellowface has historically discriminated against Asians: Mr. Yunioshi of Breakfast at Tiffanys, john wayne as Genghis Khan and even Linda Hunt won an Academy award for portraying an Asian male! How racist!

3. jim sturgess was cast as the lead of film 21 w/c is based on a book abt Asian american math MIT students. the asian roles were whitewashed. Hollywood would rather hire british jim sturgess than Asian american actors. BTW stugess donned yellowface on cloud atlas.

4. red dawn remake portrayed yellow peril. they changed the invading villains from chinese to north korean bec hollywood thinks all asians are changeable. red dawn's setting is spokane, washington where Vietnamese americans were treated violently and vietnamese american communities were burned. majority of resistance were portrayed by white actors like josh hutcherson and liam hemsworth. the people of color were killed off and had no romantic relationships while the white people find love and save the day! white people are the heroes yet again and only white actors were on film poster. they couldn't even put tom cruise's kid connor cruise on the poster. does his being a racial minority have anything to do w/ that?

5. speaking of tom cruise "all you need is kill" is being filmed w/ cruise and emily blunt. it's based on a japanese piece of fiction where the lead character is a 17 year old japanese soldier portrayed by 50 something white guy tom cruise! how racist!

6. the roles for asian males are a. asexual b. foreign c. accented d. dorky e. martial arts expert. for asian females: a. highly sexualized for majority white males b. dragon lady c. submissive. hollywood loves to dehumanize asians americans. 3% of the american population is Asian american according to pew research while cnn recently reported that the lgbt community comprises 3% of the population. however there are clearly a lot more representations of lgbt characters than there are Asian americans bec hollywood loves being racist towards Asian americans.

yeah hawaii 5-o is racist and they're merely following the foot steps of hollywood's disgusting racism and hatred towards asian americans.

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*Rolling my eyes* Can someone shut bottomchef up already!? His/Her rants are just making them look like an ass and quite frankly, it's not flattering.

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You're ignoring a basic reality, bottomchef. Would the average American watch a show led by Asian Americans? I don't think so. In a perfect world, they would have Asian Americans in the lead (or Hawaiians would be better, wouldn't it?), but then it would be the most ethnically accurate show on television...for no more than 13 weeks.

Two of my all-time favorite TV shows are two brilliant shows called Frank's Place and I'll Fly Away. Both shows featured African American leads in rich, dynamic non-stereotypical roles. Both shows were rejected by audiences.

Meanwhile, as really points out, Hawaii Five-0 portrays the Hawaii lifestyle and many of its customs, and it does so well. Meanwhile, since McGarrett and Danno would both white characters on the original 1968 series, it's kind of hard to change their ethnicity for this reboot. That would be pandering.

Sorry, bottomchef, but it seems to me that you're looking for racism wherever you can find it, and if you look for something that intently, you can bend and twist anything to make it so.

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"Would the average American watch a show led by Asian Americans? I don't think so."

TV Gord, "average American" and Asian American (or African American for that matter) are not separate entities any more than average American and White American are synonyms.

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You're right, Steph. That was a poor choice of words. I meant white Americans, to be blunt. They are still the largest target demo, and white people are less likely to embrace a show with non-whites in the lead (unless they are cartoonish stereotypes. That includes Asian leads, black leads, gay leads. That's my opinion, and my belief, based on tons of TV history. As a white person myself, I'm embarrassed by it.

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Just wondering where the purse-bag that she had is from?

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I don't disagree with your overall point TV Gord, but you have to wonder how much it is the audience and how much is the perception by TV producers, casting directors etc. Even GH has a horrible track record. Sean Blakemore is the only African American actor on contract as far as I know, and his airtime is minimal despite garnering an emmy nom. TPTB even had the audacity to drop African Amrican characters without so much as an explanation. Remember Tracy's cohort at ELQ Asher? And that doctor who was scheming with Lisa Niles to mess with Robin? Poof, gone. I can't think of a white character getting such disrespect. Even the godawful Lady in White had a proper death scene!

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Sometimes I think TPTB only keep a bare minimum of minority characters around to pick up an NAACP or an ALMA Award every year.

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To TV Gord: "You're ignoring a basic reality, bottomchef. Would the average American watch a show led by Asian Americans?"

therefore you're saying that majority white people are racist and only want tv shows to be told from white people's perspective. Are you part of the GOP w/c laments the end of the white establishment ruling the american electorate? Gigglesnort!

MSNBC is already reporting that 25% of the electorate is going to be comprised of Latinos and Asian americans. yet hollywood still has to portray whites as the leads bec that's the "ideal" they want to preserve. Pathetic!

majority of tv shows have to be told from white people's persepectives even when they're hawaii based where majority of the hawaiian population is Asian american. they can't make the lead characters Asian american for this reboot but there's no problem whitewashing Asian roles from cloud atlas and all you need is kill and the last airbender and dragon ball z and etc.

hollywood loves to proclaim being liberal and progressive and for "racial diversity" yet they are the guardians of institutionalized racism.

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bottomchef, how's the weather in the Kingdom of the Trolls?

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people have to sling mud bec they're uncomfortable regarding the prevalent racism from hollywood towards Asian americans.

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bottomchef I am sorry but while I don't disagree the show could do better it isn't racist. It has 4 lead character, now yes 2 leads are more prominent but there are 4, two of which are Asian. They also have many supporting Asian characters and I don't see any going into stereotypes, unless I don't know some stereotypes which I fully admit is possible but I see them being written for very similar as Dano. And at least they feature, I can't think of another primetime show with an Asian character, of course I didn't pay much attention to H50 because I was just looking at whether I enjoyed the character and not their ethnic background. I also want to point out you are on a daytime board which is the worst medium in the industry for diversity. I mean can you name an Asian character on a soap? I only watch GH so there could be but they certainly aren't a big enough deal to have them be well known? How about major black characters? GH has two black actors that frankly the way RC treats them is deplorable (especially when you consider the Emmy nom). Latinos? Jewish characters? I mean soaps are the worst offenders.

I do have to say TVGord I completely disagree with you about white Americans not watching if the leads were minorities, that has been proven incorrect. The show has to be good and promoted, The Wire had basically token white characters and is considered the greatest or one of the greatest shows of all time and had a huge white fan base. They may have come to it late but HBO did not promote it once word of mouth got out they watched and now via DVD sales its considered one of HBO's biggest hits (you can't have that if white people aren't watching based solely on population counts).

Look all shows could be better, not a single show based in NY is accurate to the actual make up of the population of NY, neither is any show based in LA, Chicago or DC but I do have to give H50 props for trying and for respecting and showing Hawaiian customs, they don't have to and they do. Plus its just suppose to be a fun show, I mean its not The Wire, Breaking Bad or Homeland its just a fun show, the acting is good and but its not that serious.

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bottomchef, don't tell me what I was saying. I write what I mean to say. Your misinterpretation of what I wrote is would be astounding to me if your type weren't a dime a dozen on the internet.

really, I respect that you disagree with me. I think my opinion is a pretty controversial one, and I think it's worth debating and hearing sound arguments against my position. Unfortunately, The Wire is probably the worst possible choice to make that argument. The ratings were so bad through the five years of the series--even though it was excellent--that if it had been anywhere other than HBO, it would have been cancelled in its first season. While it has been discovered in its afterlife, it's still by no means a best seller.

I would put The Wire in the same category as I'll Fly Away and Frank's Place. Excellent shows that didn't get a chance because of their largely minority casts. I wish it weren't true, but in my opinion, that's the way it is. Cable has helped to get more shows on the air for more than a season or three, but they are shows that aren't embraced outside their own demos.

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To TV Gord: "bottomchef, don't tell me what I was saying."

You seem like a "dime a dozen" and it's quite hilarious how you think. Gigglesnort!

It's hilarious how white people keep trying to remain the "norm" and the "ideal" bec they're threatened by changing american demographics. Obama is elected by a majority of americans again and yet TV Gord thinks the tv audience can't handle Asian americans as lead characters on a hawaii based tv show and any tv show for that matter. Gigglesnort!

It's pathetic how white people love to suppress the presence of racial minorities and continue to defend the institutionalized racism of hollywood all bec of a warped notion of white privilege.

The Walking Dead is the highest rated show among 18-49 demographic and its most popular character is a black female. American Idol has been the reigning tv show and its panel has always been racially diverse. Merlin was a mythical show w/c cast a racial minority Guinevere and other racial minority cast members. It's a successful 6 seasons tv show.

Obviously these shows are successful despite selfish people that only want tv shows full of white people and storylines told from a white perspective only. For hollywood to survive the white establishment needs to give way to the strong racial minority presence of blacks and latinos and asians and other racial minority americans.

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Yes soaps are pathetic when it comes to racial diversity w/c is most probably contributing to their extinction. Asian americans have the highest education rates. According to the LA Times: 40% of americans are among professional and managerial roles as compared to 50% of Asian americans are a part of professional and managerial roles. Asian americans have the highest median incomes. Soaps center around rich families and yet there are no Asian american characters?

Same thing w/ medical and corporate shows. They have to show majority whites being smart and accomplished and climbing up the career ladder. it's bec whites have to be portrayed as the "ideal" and hollywood can't portray other racial groups like Asian americans flatteringly bec hollywood wants to suppress the accomplishments of racial minorities.

And yes ny based shows are disgusting. gossip girl. how i met your mother. girls. seinfeld. etc. all storylines have to be told from white people's persepctive yet hollywood loves to talk abt being "liberal" and loving diversity. that's bull. hollywood only promotes lgbt community bec lgbts are the "right kind of minority" for hollywood. but hollywood is obviously very racist and hates racial minorities based on their casting practices and the character portrayals of racial minorities.

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bottomchef, you seem to want to have a sincere conversation about this, so I'm going to try (even though you have been nothing but insulting out of the gate; you should try to debate issues without resorting to that, if you want to have a serious discussion.)

First of all, just because I write that white audiences don't embrace shows with a cast of minorities in the leads doesn't mean that's the way I want it to be. In fact, I am saying the exact opposite. I think it's too bad, but it's reality.

If Americans CAN handle a show with Asians in the lead roles, where are they? If the audiences were there, the TV schedule would be filled with them. I don't know whether you remember Margaret Cho's sitcom, All-American Girl. It was every bit as funny as Roseanne or Grace Under Fire or The Drew Carey Show, yet it failed. Why? The audience didn't give it a chance? Why? Why else?

The Walking Dead may be leading the 18-49 demo ON AMC, but certainly not in all of television. And who says Michonne is the most popular character on the show? She's popular in the comic books, but I don't think the TV viewers who haven't read the comics know enough about her yet to decide how popular she is. Anyway, that's a racially diverse cast, which we are not talking about here. And she is by no means the lead character.

As for Merlin, that's another absurd example. Aside from Guinevere (again, not a lead character), that's an all-white cast. And Merlin's ratings are not even close to cracking the top 50 shows on TV (or the top 100, probably), so you're pulling that one out of thin air.

Also, I'm not saying white people are racist for wanting to see shows with white people in the leads, any more than I am saying gay people are bigots for wanting to see gay characters in lead roles or Asians are bigots for wanting to see Asians in lead roles. People like what they like. What I AM saying is that--although demographics are changing--they haven't changed yet, and the white majority rules what we see on TV, for the most part. The point you seem to be missing about me is that I think it's a shame that it's that way...but it IS that way.

Personally, I watch shows of all kinds. I watched Friday Night Lights because I was intrigued about seeing life in a small Texas town. I watched I'll Fly Away because it reminded me of To Kill A Mockingbird and it depicted one of the most fascinating periods in our history, the civil rights movement of the 60s. I watched Frank's Place because I love the New Orleans culture and the rich and diverse characters on that show. That's the same reason I watch HBO's Treme today...but Treme is one of the lowest-rated shows on TV. Why? Why else?

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bottomchef wrote:
whites have to be portrayed as the "ideal" and hollywood can't portray other racial groups like Asian americans flatteringly bec hollywood wants to suppress the accomplishments of racial minorities.

Then, how do you explain Chin Ho and Kono and Max on Hawaii Five-0? They are among the most accomplished characters on the show. They may not be the leads, but McGarrett and Danno bring in the big audiences, and that audience gets to see Chin Ho and Kono and Max being highly accomplished at what they do. I'm sorry, your view on things just doesn't hold up for me.

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TV Gord how do you know who's "bringing in the big audiences"? You have no way of knowing that by simply working off the Nielsens (which I think is an antiquated system now anyway). I'm just not buying your theory. NFL football is consistently number one, last time I checked those teams weren't comprised of white guys. What about Scandal? Doing pretty good for itself with an African American lead. NCIS: LA with L.L. Cool J? People are loving that. And reality TV throws another wrench in your theory.

I think you're focusing on cast demographics and not enough on content. All the shows you mention as failing/struggling are for the most part way outside the typical genre of shows that people consume en mass. Like Last Resort this year, doomed to fail because it was way too high concept (and because it sucked as well if you ask me). Your typical Nielsen viewers like their sports, sitcoms, karaoke, crime shows and melodramas. You deviate from that a lot and it usually fails to show up on the Nielsen list.

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I'm working off the Nielsens because they are the only game in town that matters to advertisers right now, antiquated or not.

I'm not talking about shows with diverse casts. I'm talking about shows with predominantly minority casts. L.L. Cool J and Kerry Washington are surrounded by a white cast. By the way, have you seen the promo for tonight's Scandal. You barely see Washington in it, she's only at the end of the promo, and she doesn't speak. She hardly looks like the star of the show in that promo.

My original point is about scripted television, so football and reality TV don't really register in what I'm trying to say.

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TV Gord wrote: "She hardly looks like the star of the show in that promo"

This is the weirdest thing you've written yet! This is very disturbing and shows how much your white privilege is being THREATENED by the changing racial demographics of america that you have to fail at "putting down" the bonafide elad of Scandal bec she "didn't speak during a promo". Fits of giggles! And BTW you can call me "dime a dozen" and have a Freudian slip by calling "average americans" as white and yet you act like you're not being rude while I'm being rude to you. Projection!

Kerry's acting from django unchained is already getting her Academy award buzz! She's rising to the A list and it's too bad that her success as a single black woman is annoying to some kind of people that have to nitpick on a commercial w/c doesn't have her speak! Talk abt reaching! Gigglesnort.

hollywood is going to rally around Kerry Washington's projects EVEN MORE now bec she helped w/ Obama winning again and ending the white establishment ruling the political class. Kerry appealed to African Americans and single women. Asian americans voted at an even higher percentage than Latinos for Obama. Latinos and African americans and Asian americans are the new coalition politically and hollywood would look backwards and foolish if they keep ignoring these groups all for the sake of white people that hate it that they are not the ruling class anymore!

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Steph570 wrote: "TV Gord how do you know who's "bringing in the big audiences"? You have no way of knowing that by simply working off the Nielsens (which I think is an antiquated system now anyway). I'm just not buying your theory."

Exactly Steph570! TV Gord's claiming that it's WHITE characters who are bringing the ratings bec he/she wants to keep the white establishment as the ruling class of tv! It's a technique to suppress the contributions of racial minorities. Whites have to be majority of the leads bec they have to be the "norm" and the "ideal" while racial minorities have to be supporting for the most part. It's the same w/ sexualized portrayals. Latinos and black americans have to be portrayed as hypersexualized w/ these high pregnancy rates and unwed mothers while Asian americans are portrayed asexually bec they seldom have romantic storylines. Blacks and Latinos are hypersexualized while Asian americans are asexualized and thus being white becomes the "norm" and the white establishment is glorified.

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I give up. My original instincts about you were correct. I was just hoping they were wrong, and we could have an intelligent conversation. Oh well, live and learn.

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Steph570 wrote: "NFL football is consistently number one, last time I checked those teams weren't comprised of white guys."

Great point Steph570! It's bec sports is a meritocracy and cannot be MANIPULATED by the white establishment! Athletes can't use their last names to become drafted onto sports teams. While people like ugly and talent deficient mamie gummer can get the lead role on the axed emily owens bec she's meryl streep's daughter. Athletes can't sleep their way to get ahead while hollywood actors do that regularly. It's abt athleticism and talent when it comes to sports. Athletes are rewarded for their skills and talent while anyone can become an actor. That's why the white establishment can't stop black athletes from becoming the majority among unscripted sports entertainment bec real talent has to be rewarded among athletes.

But scripted entertainment is open to being controlled by the white establishment bec acting is NOT a meritocracy and "acting talent" is subjective. Thus the white establishment can keep giving roles to majority white actors bec "acting talent" is debatable. All that's required of an actor is knowing the lines and blocking. That's all their jobs entail. Thus whites can still get majority of the roles bec they are selfish and want majority of scripted storylines to be told from a white perspective even if that is not realistic. hollywood epitomizes institutionalized racism and white privilege.