Todd, John and Starr OUT at General Hospital! Will They Return?


Look for the characters of John McBain (Michael Easton), Todd (Roger Howarth) and Starr Manning (Kristen Alderson) to at least temporarily exit General Hospital some time in the near future, according to sources. Per the agreement ABC Daytime made when they originally brought on the three One Life to Live characters, GH has to stop using Todd and Co. now that Prospect Park's The Online Network is prepping to relaunch OLTL.

Prospect Park—which licensed OLTL and All My Children following their cancellations by ABC—wants to use the three character to help relaunch OLTL on the web and via other digital and cable platforms. However, PP might not want them for the long haul.

"Prospect Park realizes these three characters could initially help draw fans to the new One Life," explains a source. "There are ongoing talks between ABC and Prospect Park about the characters returning to General Hospital at some point, which could be fine with [Prospect Park] as they eventually want to go much younger with their soaps."

While Easton, Howarth and Alderson are said to be less than ethused with the "prospects" of leaving their day jobs, there's speculation that ABC—to which they are under contract—could ask them to appear on OLTL in a show of good faith.

"There's no guarantee the actors will do it," says one mole, "but people high up on the Disney-ABC food chain want to see these shows succeed online. The network might ask them to do it as a favor."

Expect the fictional Llanview Three to air on GH at least through February Sweeps.

 

 

105 Responses

  1. Profile photo of giogio
    giogio

    I just said that. I feel really bad for Kristen. What does she have to do now pack up her LA home and come to Connecticut. Oh I feel so bad. If that were my girl I would be so upset. I wish them all the best.

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    Katiebug9624

    WOW! I guess…I dont blame PP for wanting the characters back and I understand ABC wanting to “loan” them to an extent and to be honest I don’t mind losing Todd and Starr but I do love John/Sam so much.

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    soapfan616

    Thank you Prospect Park. One less rapist character on GH. No more singing (calling it that seems a stretch), yelling or crying from Starr. And while McBoring is pleasant to look at, he simply puts me to sleep. Of all the great characters to ever have been on OLTL, GH certainly chose poorly when bringing these three over.

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    giogio

    Katiebug – I just thought the same thing. You took the words right out of my mouth. Im keeping my eye on those PP people cause they still are a mystery and I dont like some of the things Im reading now. Lets not give up our daily TV line up just yet.

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    Katiebug9624

    giogio that line made me worry that we will end up with some veteran characters ushering in a younger set of new characters I mean if they have ties to the canvas then OK i’m used to that but how much younger are we talking that’s what I want to know.

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    doctormo77

    Wow, talk about some bullsh***! GH has been killing it this week, especially Easton and Howarth. I can see if PP would like those characters to cross over to OLTL, especially if the show had a storyline involving the return of Victor. Hopefully this is temporary, because I can certainly understand all three actors and actresses being pissed off.

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    Katiebug9624

    On one hand I get a bit defensive because in the end Todd/John/Starr are OLTL characters they don’t belong to GH there history is with OLTL and on the other I really am enjoying those characters on GH :(

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    appleridge

    Sounds to me like OLTL wants to borrow them and they will be back on GH. Article makes it sound like PP & ABC are figuring a way to share Todd Starr & John but they want them to help with the relaunch of OLTL

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    No Daisy

    I think this is awful for everyone. If I were RH, KA, or ME I would tell PP to screw off. PP would then have to recast 3 big draws, what would be the point? Sometimes I hate knowing anything about the shady backside of this business deal.

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    katehhoward

    Well at least that means we may get Matthew (Eddie Alderson) back on OLTL. I understand why they would not like to pack up and return to NYC. But how bad is it really they would be in some way working part time. The shows run Mon-Thurs. I think the damage comes from the fact that in L.A. they have more opportunities for other work. We know Roger wants to make the transition into films and so does Kristen. As for Michael I think he has family on the West coast so that’s the dilemma. I would like them to come back as a sign of gratitude but don’t stay. If we can have them pop up on OLTL every now and than it would help to get new viewers. With the whole Blair and Todd things we can have OLTL blend in with GH for real. We know that eventually it will be revealed that Victor is alive, so todd will have to return to Llanview. Plus we have Blair/Sam(SOARSED/Jack/Dani/Tea/Natalie/Liam in Llanview still with connections to folks in Port Charles. Played right this could be a great ride.

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    appleridge

    How is this shady. PP has the rights to Starr John & Todd. PP loaned them to GH. Gh knew that if PP happened, they could lose these roles.

    It sounds Like PP just wants these roles to help relaunch OLTL where these 3 have major history. It also seems like PP is fine with them going back to GH later.

    It sounds like ABC & PP want to work out a way to share these roles

    Also GH will be fine without these 3 even if they are gone for good. GH has tons of talent and story. Gh will survive

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    Jabot1991

    [quote=katehhoward]Well at least that means we may get Matthew (Eddie Alderson) back on OLTL. I understand why they would not like to pack up and return to NYC. But how bad is it really they would be in some way working part time. The shows run Mon-Thurs. I think the damage comes from the fact that in L.A. they have more opportunities for other work. We know Roger wants to make the transition into films and so does Kristen. As for Michael I think he has family on the West coast so that’s the dilemma. I would like them to come back as a sign of gratitude but don’t stay. If we can have them pop up on OLTL every now and than it would help to get new viewers. With the whole Blair and Todd things we can have OLTL blend in with GH for real. We know that eventually it will be revealed that Victor is alive, so todd will have to return to Llanview. Plus we have Blair/Sam(SOARSED/Jack/Dani/Tea/Natalie/Liam in Llanview still with connections to folks in Port Charles. Played right this could be a great ride.[/quote]
    I hear they are recasting Matthew and Destiny. I’m bummed about that.

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    thecourt99

    This is interesting, and the verbiage leaves a lot of wiggle room.

    “There are ongoing talks between ABC and Prospect Park about the characters returning to General Hospital at some point, which could be fine with [Prospect Park] as they eventually want to go much younger with their soaps.”

    There is a lot unsaid in that statement. 1) it has not been determined if these characters will definitely come back or not, 2) if they do, will they continue storylines, work in same universe, will it be permanent…or on loan again?, 3)They want to go younger…but are we talking younger than KA? I mean, the other characters they have acquired aren’t in that wheelhouse anymore.

    Yeah..this is more fascinating than the shows themselves.

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    soapbaby

    I will miss McBain & Todd. McBain has made Sam McCall a viable character and Todd Manning is the best new addition in ever! Starr could disappear and never return. Does Prospect Park need a young, mousy, student Latina nurse? ;-)

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    appleridge

    [quote=thecourt99]This is interesting, and the verbiage leaves a lot of wiggle room.

    “There are ongoing talks between ABC and Prospect Park about the characters returning to General Hospital at some point, which could be fine with [Prospect Park] as they eventually want to go much younger with their soaps.”

    There is a lot unsaid in that statement. 1) it has not been determined if these characters will definitely come back or not, 2) if they do, will they continue storylines, work in same universe, will it be permanent…or on loan again?, 3)They want to go younger…but are we talking younger than KA? I mean, the other characters they have acquired aren’t in that wheelhouse anymore.

    Yeah..this is more fascinating than the shows themselves.[/quote]

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    Given who PP has signed so far I dont buy they are looking to go younger

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    Transfigurationjc

    I feel bad for the actors but I want the characters gone from GH. Mcbain is the only character I actually liked, but Cartini refused to move forward with Sam and McBain or to pair him romantically with Anna so he can go too.
    Roger Howarth is a great actor but by now I am sick to death of the Dennis the Menace immature Todd. I got sick of him after the first month and all that nonsense with Heather and Connie.

    I hated the One Life “crossover” because it wasnt a crossover. It was a part of Cartini’s sneaky agenda to continue One Life on GH. I hated that on every level. Unless they are contractually bound I doubt any of the actors will commit to PP. I’m sure they dont want to take the pay cut. No way PP can afford to pay them what Disney is paying. And Kris Alderson’s family (including her brother Eddie who played Matthew on OLTL)moved to LA. She will have to relocate or fly across the country to Connecticut! Oh well I’m still happy to see the characters go.

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    No Daisy

    Everything about this deal is shady, IMO. They have the rights to the characters not the actors. I just can’t see the actors interest in coming back to do an online soap. Especialy KA who never singed with PP in the first place. And while this may be just business, and taking these chances may be something an actor signs on for, as a fan, I do not trust that PP will do justice to OLTL. I don’t want to tune in to OLTL to see, nu-Todd, nu-Starr, or nu-John, nu-Matthew, etc. Nor do I want them to have these characters on for five minutes so they can suck fans in before making my beloved characters go away for a younger set. Hasn’t GH proven this year that people tune in for the vets, not so much the newbies? I like the way GH has integrated these three and I’m afraid it’s going to once again screw up the continuity for the one soap I still watch.

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    SoapyBitch

    I will say that I do not feel bad for Kristen because when the initial announcement for the TOLN launch occurred last year, she said she wanted to go to LA and try her hand at that and she would not sign on. Fine. Michael Easton though signed on for the online venture and gave an interview that he was ride or die. I don’t recall what Roger’s deal was.

    So when Kirsten signed on to GH – I was like, really? Ultimately, a job is a job so I get it, but it left a bad taste in my moth. Plus this past year has not been a good one for the character. I enjoyed her on OLTL, but not really on GH. I don’t know if it’s story, acting choices, scene partners or all of the above. It just does not work.

    As much as it pains me, I think GH needs to scrap the collegiate set (Kristina, Michael, Starr,…) completely and focus on the mid-to-late 20s group (Maxie, Lulu, Spinelli, Milo) and the actual teens (Morgan, I forget his name, and maybe bring back Morgan). I’d also prefer that Liz get sucked into the mid-to-late 20’s set. She’s another Marcy Rylan to me. I have difficulty seeing her paired up with all those older men from last week’s poll.

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    Crystal_Ann

    I feel bad for the actors, I won’t blame them if they refuse to reprise their roles for the web series which is likely going to happen in Roger and Kristen’s case because they orginally declined to be part of the web series. Prospect Park shouldn’t have given ABC permission to continue to use the characters if they wanted them back in the future.

    I’m kind of happy though because now I have no reason to watch GH or buy the soap magazine anymore. I will be saving time and money.

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    appleridge

    No Daisy Im thinking they want them them back to reveal that Victor Jr is alive, John will deal with Natalie & Liam & will play that for like a month then Todd Starr & John will return to OLTL.

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    nysam

    Let’s set the record straight….if it weren’t for OLTL none of these actors would be known or had careers. They should be happy to help relaunch the soap that gave them their start. They are more valuable to OLTL than they are at GH. GH has an abundance of riches with Anna, Lucy, Felicia, Laura, Liz, Tracy, Luke, AJ, Patrick. The $ saved cutting these 3 loose allows for more GH vets to return and for the writers to actually write for GH characters rather than seeing Anna once a week and having her vanish for 3 weeks. How about getting Robert back permanently.

    I’m proud of PP. Obviously, they are serious about rebooting OLTL and want the popular characters on their canvas to make sure that they make the show a success. Ron & Frank took these 3 characters because of their popularity with the OLTL audience. Of course, OLTL is going to want them back.

    As for feeling sorry about these actors having to uproot their lives and move some of you people make it sound like it is 1813 and they are doing in a wagon train as they battle indians. I travel all the time for work. It’s my job. I’m sure PP will provide temporary housing for these 3 that will be quite nice. Don’t feel sorry for them. At Kristen’s age most kids go off to college. She can think of it as the college experience she never had.

    Matthew and Destiny are being recast for different reasons. Eddie/Matthew could act so he probably doesn’t want to return and will stay in LA trying to make it in film. Shanelle/Destiny….well my nana taught me if I didn’t have anything nice to say to say nothing at all.

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    Ravennite613

    No Daisy you nailed it on the head – they own the rights to the characters not the actors…ABC owns the contract for Roger, Kristen & Michael and if Cartini chooses they can simply apply a different name to them (unlikely)

    For me these three are part of GH nowand if the actors are happy here then PP and ABC should find a way to keep everyone happy. Have them wrap up their stories and come back.

    1. Go back and make Brody the baby daddy of Nat’s child

    2. Have Starr just say that she found love after Cole and Hope (but if PP owns the rights to those characters are they really dead)

    3. And Todd well that may be trickier

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    SwanQueen59

    Since these three are (apparently) needed for the “Tale of Two Todds” wrap up, I’d be inclined to let them be “returned” and, if at all possible have their characters be referenced in phone calls and dialogue on GH so as to remain viable with what RC and FV are doing there. As regards the actual “Two Todds” will the new head writers continue with Cartini’s existing story bible/platform, will they tweak it as they go, or complletely re-fashion it as they see fit for the re-launch? However they proceed will probably determine how long any of these three characters/actors remain with the re-boot of OLTL… 0:)

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    appleridge

    Im betting Todd & Starr return Cause Victor Jr is found. John Will talk to Natalie & figure out whats best for Liam. When that is done, I bet they return to Gh but will visit OLTL when story calls for it.

    Im sure KA, ME & RH would be open to that

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    brettyboy

    I don’t like the sound of Prospect Park wanting to make OLTL and AMC younger, that is what usually makes me want to switch off; B&B wanted to go younger and look what crap we’re left with!

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    Katiebug9624

    These characters belong to OLTL PP PAID for these characters I can’t fault them for wanting them back. That’s like paying the price for Erica Kane but not getting to use her.

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    stefanstavros

    I think it will all work out. I believe these characters will go back TEMPORARILY to make the OLTL launch (if it really happens) more successful and then go back to GH. All three of these actors (especially RH) are very popular and carry weight in the soap world. They aren’t going to get screwed over in the long run. That’s my take on it. And to the haters, we all know these characters and their portrayers have contributed positively to the well-being of GH.

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    Jabot1991

    Ron should put Kristina Wagner, Tristan Rogers and Ian Buchanan or Jon Lindstrom, Lynn Herring and Wally Kurth on contract in the place of those 3..

    We don’t even know if PP even contacted Eddie or Shenell.. I’m not happy about that

  29. Profile photo of thecourt99
    thecourt99

    [quote=appleridge]Given who PP has signed so far I dont buy they are looking to go younger[/quote]

    Call me cynical, but I think that they are betting on KA, ME, and RH declining to come to OLTL…so they can recast for cheaper. It says something that they are recasting Matthew, who was played by KA’s brother. I find it hard to believe that they want KA to come to CT, and they don’t want EA to come with her. I don’t buy their “going younger” thing either. They want people to be comforted by the possibility of the characters returning…but if they have something good going, they won’t let loose. If anything, whatever is being negotiated now will have an out for PP. Ultimately, even if the characters come back to GH, will PP still own the license to them??? Does that mean they can always pull them back???

    But again, that is me being cynical.

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    Crystal_Ann

    [quote=nysam]As for feeling sorry about these actors having to uproot their lives and move some of you people make it sound like it is 1813 and they are doing in a wagon train as they battle indians. I travel all the time for work. It’s my job. I’m sure PP will provide temporary housing for these 3 that will be quite nice. Don’t feel sorry for them. At Kristen’s age most kids go off to college. She can think of it as the college experience she never had.
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    And you make it sound like they are going to be forced to rejoin OLTL. The actors don’t have to uproot their lives, the only way they will be working for PP is if they choose too.

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    James73

    I wanted to ask a question regarding the characters/actors currently on GH.

    I realise that Prospect Park have leased the rights to the entire image etc.. of OLTL; characters, storylines, the entire ‘Llanview’ fictional universe etc… and although they don’t own the show etc…, the fact that they have leased the rights for so many years means that until those rights expire, ABC (although still the owners) have no rights to any of OLTL until Prospect Park’s lease expires.

    When the first online continuation fell through and GH signed the 3 actors (and the two recurring actors) didn’t they get permission from Prospect Park to do so? They would surely have to with PP owning the characters at that point; pay PP a rental of characters fee etc…?

    I had also read somewhere that ABC had signed the 3 actors to 3 year deals on GH. Surely they would have got clearance with PP in case PP decided to go ahead and try again with the revival (as they have eventually done). If this was the case where ABC got permission, surely PP don’t have any right to enforce the returns of the characters?

    If PP do have the rights to remove the characters from GH and return them to OLTL, I realise that the actors have no obligation to return and that PP only have rights to write about/recast those characters but I wanted to ask a question regarding these 3 year ABC deals that the actors have got.

    I have seen forum posts where people have said the actors would not want to move from a television salary to an internet salary. If ABC remove the 3 actors and they refuse to return to OLTL or even if the actors do return to OLTL whether temporarily or permanently, surely ABC have to pay their ‘television wage’ whatever the actors do as ABC are legally obligated to pay them for 3 years and if they go to OLTL or don’t go to OLTL, the actors signed a contract to work on GH and didn’t quit or leave under bad circumstances; ABC and PP forced them to leave their roles on GH.

    Just wondered if anyone could clear it up.

    Thanks

  32. Profile photo of nysam
    nysam

    A cynic is a romatnic who has seen the world….Tony Geary, SOAP OPERA WEEKLY 1998.

    PP doesn’t own the actors. They own the rights to the characters. They can’t make Eddie Alderson return as “Matthew” if he doesn’t want to. Eddie is a talented actor so he is probably going out for primetime and film work. His sister, Kristen isn’t good. She is lucky to be on GH. Edmonds was a bad actress so they are replacing her.

    If I were PP I would bring all 3 back to launch the OLTL. Wrap John’s story with Natalie and send him back to GH. I would keep Todd preferably with Roger Howarth in the role. If he doesn’t want to play the part then replace him with another actor. It was done before and can be done again. As for Starr I would get KA back to OLTL and have her character in an accident and give her plastic surgery replacing her with a better actress. IF GH still want Alderson they can create a new role on GH for her.

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    Katiebug9624

    thecourt99 They probably want KA because she is currently portraying Starr on GH as for Eddie he may of turned them down. I do think unless another deal is reached that PP will own the characters even if they return to GH its just a mess really.

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    nysam

    James73, soap actors work on “cycles”. They may have signed for 3 years, but it is standard in daytime deals to have the right for the network to let them go every 13 weeks. They simply have to give notice to the actor 13 weeks in advance. If an actor’s cycle isn’t picked up then they are let go. ABC probably didn’t pick up their most recent cycle and that probably means the 3 will exiting the PC canvas come late March/early April.

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    appleridge

    [quote=nysam]James73, soap actors work on “cycles”. They may have signed for 3 years, but it is standard in daytime deals to have the right for the network to let them go every 13 weeks. They simply have to give notice to the actor 13 weeks in advance. If an actor’s cycle isn’t picked up then they are let go. ABC probably didn’t pick up their most recent cycle and that probably means the 3 will exiting the PC canvas come late March/early April.[/quote]

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    According to Stuart Damon (Alan Q, GH) he said on Soaptalk once that if a soap wants to let u go they must inform no later than 4 weeks before your current cycle ends

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    days4ever

    The thing is that maybe those actors do not want to go back to OLTL. I think they all moved to the west coast and moved on. If they want to use them temporary to launch the new show, that sounds OK. I see no reason to come up with a lame reason to move them all back. Maybe I can see John trying to make it work with Natalie and Starr going back to be with Blair. But Todd did not fit in with the OLTL cast the second time around. I enjoy him 1000 times better on GH and with Carly. Blair and Todd were hot years ago but Blair has worked her way through Llanview and is now with Tomas and is content so let her stay with him. I think they need to try & get Trevor St John back even for just to finish up that story. That would bea good reason for all 3 of them to go back temp.

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    JasamForever

    I am not upset the least in hearing this news. Let Starr, Todd, and John go back to their home which is OLTL. I have no desire for any of the actors to return. Sorry, but that is how I feel. I want GH to be GH and not a crossover show. I hope that with this we get more return of GH vets and also some of these vets get the contracts that these OLTL actors already had!!!

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    appleridge

    [quote=days4ever]The thing is that maybe those actors do not want to go back to OLTL. I think they all moved to the west coast and moved on. If they want to use them temporary to launch the new show, that sounds OK. I see no reason to come up with a lame reason to move them all back. Maybe I can see John trying to make it work with Natalie and Starr going back to be with Blair. But Todd did not fit in with the OLTL cast the second time around. I enjoy him 1000 times better on GH and with Carly. Blair and Todd were hot years ago but Blair has worked her way through Llanview and is now with Tomas and is content so let her stay with him. I think they need to try & get Trevor St John back even for just to finish up that story. That would bea good reason for all 3 of them to go back temp.[/quote]

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    I think itll be temp. Todd & Starr will deal with family stuff in Llanview & John & Natalie will come to terms regarding Liam. Then they return to GH but visit OLTL when story warrants.

    I could see KA RH & ME being open to that

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    blake3b

    I think it’s a good sign that PP is interested in just using the characters for a while to introduce the show! They can return back to GH after say a month or so. GH really needs them and has done so much better since they came on, plus having Ron and Frank.
    Todd can come back to wrap up Victor’s murder story, Victor needs to come back he can be OLTL’s male lead again so Todd can go back to GH. There should be a Blair/Victor/Tea triangle on OLTL.
    John can come back to eventually break up with Natalie. I wouldn’t mind, like the other poster who said that Brody could turn out to be the father. I’d love to have Brody back on, he is so damn hot and such eye candy!
    Starr I guess could come back to help be with her dad during the Victor story and to visit her family.
    I can understand the actors being upset since they now live in CA and I’m sure get paid a whole lot more working on a network soap like GH.

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    maxsmom

    If always drives me batty when people say oh if so and so was gone then blank could be hired as if actors are as interchangeable as characters. Actors have different needs and wants that have zero to do with cash, Steve Burton is exhibit 1. I may be wrong, I have no evidence but I would be stunned to discover that he is being paid as much by Y&R as he was by GH, Steve wanted what he wanted and Jack Wagner, the actor I most want to see, wants what he wants.
    In addition to actor needs, there are the producer’s assessments of the value of an actor and the writer’s desire to incorporate the character.

    I have mostly enjoyed what I call the 90s redux(Anna and all she touches), Todd and Starr. I almost like McBain on GH though I could not stand him on OneLIfe. Barbra Jean Spencer is the reason I started watching GH and I’d love to see her back with Laura and Scotty. I restate that I’d love to see Frisco but I want him trying to woo Felicia. My point: we all have a vision of the show.

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    Y2Jin99

    Its quite possible that they can shoot a ton of episode in advance? Since their will only be 42 weeks and 4 eps per week at 30 min maybe they can film 3-4 months of scenes in like a month then go back to GH and shoot some more? Why not have 2 jobs? lol

    This should be interesting.

    I am not caught up to any of their scenes on GH but did John explain to Natalie why he was in Port Charles especially after he just found out Liam was his when OLTL left?

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    snizzle

    PP (not the actors/GH/ABCD) owns the characters and nobody is putting a gun to the actors’ heads forcing them to work for PP.

    RC/FV and the actors involved had to know there was always a chance PP could bring back OLTL but chose to move those characters to GH anyway. If RC was dead set on bringing these actors to GH perhaps he should’ve brought them on as different characters. It would not have been a stretch to bring ME back as Caleb if he was going end up going there anyway with this Lucy s/l.

    As a long time GH fan I’m not disappointed to see these characters go. As a long time OLTL fan I want closure on John/Natalie which is the reason I could never accept John on GH. Some of us would also like closure on the 2 Todds s/l. I love RH but Starr and Todd don’t really fit on GH. I was ok with Starr on OLTL but hate the character on GH.

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    acespencer

    I am not sure what is going to happen but you can see that Cartini is looking at a possible Carly=Aj pairing and now I can see why.

    I love McBam and to me that is the only thing worth it! John is not needed on OLTL Star and Todd are. Star is stinking up the GH canvas and needs to go. Reveal that Cole and Hope are alive and let her go.

    Michael can be with Serena when she gets to town or they could pair him with Liz! Hey that would drive Carly simply crazy!

    Todd can go or stay I am still torn. I love his banter with everyone but he still feels a tad out of place. I would have rather seen Roger create a new role, Kristen create a new role and Easton create a new but well similar role to the character on OLTL. They could have easily made KA RH daughter and we would have bought it.

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    liason4real

    What a mess. ABC should have never cancelled AMC & OLTL in the first place. GH has a very rich history of characters, writers, etc,, and really does not need the OLTL crew. I say send all of the OLTL peeps over to PP and let them continue with the show.

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    GHFan777

    RockiDreams I agree…I volunteer to give PP… Sabrina, Britt AND Konnie also. I really want to keep Todd and John though…Starr can go back home and be with her mom.

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    mackenzie2184

    I stopped watching GH a while ago, but even when I heard that these three actors were going to watch GH, I still didn’t tune in. I wish these three all the best with what lies ahead, whether it be that they stay on GH or decide to go with Prospect Park to work on the OLTL reboot.

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    DanielAvery

    GH is currently doing a great job with rotating the actors in and out in an effort to save money. If the Llanview Trio are indeed just headed back to OLTL temporarily, it won’t impact the show much more than the back-and-forth of characters like Heather, Robert, Duke, etc. Ron C will just focus on some other plotlines for a while and work them back in when they are available again. With GH’s anniversary coming up in March/April, it might be the best time for the Trio to drop out of sight–it would allow the show to focus more on blasts from their past rather than current stories. If the Trio can come back in mid-April, they can be well positioned for May Sweeps stories.

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    mfarris70

    It’s business but it’s still shady. They didn’t mind the OLTL characters being used when PP couldn’t get their act together to launch online but now that they have and GH’s ratings have soared, they want to capitalize on Cartini’s success. I’m a die-hard OLTL fan but I’m very cautiously optimistic about this reboot. Has all the workings of a major disaster.

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    aph1976

    I’m thinking Prospect Park only wants them temporarily to start some new stories and resolve others and then they’ll go back to GH.Also this could be the start of crossovers between OLTL and GH.That could be beneficial for both shows in the long run.

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    giogio

    Maybe they do want them to crossover, or temporarily. But damnit PP and all your bull come out and tell us cause we have no more patience for your crap!!

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    appleridge

    [quote=daveghfan13]Because of this I refuse to support anything Prospect Park does. Screw them and their relaunches. As**oles[/quote]
    They legally have the right to these characters in a contract ABC agreed to. Dont fault PP for ABC not realizing this could happen. Its not shady. Its a legal business move that both parties agreed too when ABC asked to borrow Starr John & Starr

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    appleridge

    [quote=giogio]Maybe they do want them to crossover, or temporarily. But damnit PP and all your bull come out and tell us cause we have no more patience for your crap!![/quote]

    How can it be crap when ABC agreed to this when they asked to borrow Starr John & Todd? They knew this was a possibility.

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    nysam

    You and Lucy both need to plead insanity. Todd, Starr & John aren’t based on Ron and Frank’s success!! All 3 characters were created under other head writers and EPs. If it weren’t for OLTL these actors and characters would have never been heard of.

    As for ratings soaring due to these 3 remember they joined the show last February and there was little improvement in the ratings. The ratings improved in the fall with the time slot switch from 3pm to 2pm and can probably be attributed more to the returns of characters such as Robin, Anna, Duke and AJ that audiences actually care about.

    You say PP couldn’t get their act together? How easy do you think it is to reboot a floundering genre? PP had a lot to get in order with writers, directors, actors and financing. It isn’t for lack of trying.

    As a OLTL fan you would rather see Todd, Starr & John on GH rather than 4 episodes a week of OLTL with Dorian, Clint, Todd, John, Starr, Destiny, Matthew, etc? Sounds like you are more of a fan of 3 actors than the actual show that created those characters.

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    tarpaz

    Kristen Alderson should try her hand at a primetime drama. At least she wouldn’t have to leave LA. She could easily get a role on an ABC or CW drama.

    The one problem with these shows return is they will be online. Are any long time fans going to watch AMC and OLTL on their computers? I know there are ways to set on your television but not every one is tech savvy.

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    nysam

    tarpaz, have you seen Kristen act? If primetime wanted her they would have snatched her years ago….GOSSIP GIRL, 90210, VAMPIRE DIARIES, DIRTY LITTLE LIARS, SECRET LIFE OF THE AMERICAN TEEN….the list goes on and on for shows that focus on teens and 20-somethings.

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    appleridge

    [quote=Soap_Stud]We may not like it, but there is nothing shady about it. Could this scenario be similar to when the GH actors would crossover to PC?[/quote]

    Ok my take on #PP #GH #OLTL #GH thing with Starr, Todd, John

    #PP has a deal with ABC that they have the rights to all OLTL originated Characters and if they did nothing those rights revert back in late Feb 2013.

    Ok So ABC wanted to use Starr, Todd & John, Blair, Tea for #GH. They were aware that PP has the rights & went to them and PP allowed them to rent the characters out.
    ABC knew that if PP happened to make a go out of OLTL, that PP was in its legal right to ask Gh to stop using the OLTL transplants if PP wanted them for the OLTL revival.

    Now with all their ducks in a row PP is ready to move on OLTL & they want the characters involved. So now fans are pissed and blamming PP. Sorry that does not fly. ABC knew of this deal & Im sure the actors playing the roles knew this could happen. Nothing shady here.

    Now it seems PP just wants the characters to help relaunch OLTL and then they can return to GH. A deal between ABC & PP is being worked on. Hopefully it does happen as Im sure it will benefit both soaps in the long run.

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    Daniel St. John

    Unless ABC and PP works out a quid pro quo deal that sees these three actors making temporary appearances on OLTL as it retarts and then being allowed to return to GH full-time with the option of making guest appearances on OLTL, down the road we will not be seeing any of these characters again unless they are recast.
    Because I don’t see either of the 3 actors being interested in moving to Connecticut.

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    appleridge

    [quote=Daniel St. John]Unless ABC and PP works out a quid pro quo deal that sees these three actors making temporary appearances on OLTL as it retarts and then being allowed to return to GH full-time with the option of making guest appearances on OLTL, down the road we will not be seeing any of these characters again unless they are recast.
    Because I don’t see either of the 3 actors being interested in moving to Connecticut.[/quote]

    The deal you just laid out I think is what is best for both shows & IMHO I feel that is the DEAL ABC & PP are attempting to make.

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    maxsmom

    I follow KA on Twitter, she is a lovely young woman, she has not mentioned anything regarding PP. I haven’t seen anything from RH or ME either so all of this is speculation which can be fun but not necessarily informative.

    do the actors have to go? do they want to go? what were the provisions in their GH contracts? I am interested in the outcome and I hope there will be details but so far, there are none.

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    At50

    “I’m a little worried about PP wanting AMC and OLTL to go younger…how young are we talking about? 20’s maybe?”

    Me too. Todd and John aren’t that old and I usually am more interested in the the over 30 characters than the 20 somethings. OLTL and AMC shouldn’t turn into CW style soaps.

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    appleridge

    Dont buy want to go yonger since they have signned lots of vets. I could see them wanting younger to tell Multi-Generational stories, which is what SBH is known for

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    angrierblackerman

    I hope they just want them to reboot the show, and then let them go back to PC. I have gotten used to them in PC now.

    If PP execs are smart, they would start talking to the writers about the big catastrophe that brings Todd, John, and Starr back to Llanview, like someone sees Mitch Laurence or gets a letter from him saying he is going after their families. Blair gets stabbed again…which would mean Starr has to go back.

    It has to be something good.

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    missmuffett41

    [quote=Soap_Stud]GH will go on and be fine…and I hope the actors do go to OLTL, but it they don’t, it would be downright stupid for OLTL to recast the roles.[/quote]
    Its not stupid, its called doing business. If pp want their characters and the actors refuse to join the reboot, pp has no choice but to recast.

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    TV Gord

    [quote=maxsmom]I follow KA on Twitter, she is a lovely young woman, she has not mentioned anything regarding PP. I haven’t seen anything from RH or ME either so all of this is speculation which can be fun but not necessarily informative.[/quote]

    Interesting. I always taking stories with a grain of salt when no one goes on the record to confirm it. “According to sources” is not good enough.

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    Rishabelle

    Let the OLTL trio go and watch the ratings down again…the GH ratings went up because tons of OLTL fan started tuning in. U GH peops seem to forget that for some reason. U seem to forget that b/4 John, Starr, and Todd came along GH was on the verge to being cancelled. If they permanently uproot the OLTL trio im out. I will just catch up on the GH plots via SheKnows.

    And stop hatin’ on Starr, that’s my spunky girl. I love her with Michael. I think it’s her best relationship thus far. I like them better than her and the Coles and James. They have a sweet and warm chemistry.

    As for OLTL online bring it on! Estatic.Lets wrap up this Victor is Alive plot. I miss Trevor. Heck I miss Nat, Dani, Vicky, everyone. I appreciate the many OLTL references on GH but it’s not the same.

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    TamponTammy

    Have these people not learned yet? The decline of most all soaps is due the their “going younger”. You would think they would notice this. It’s great to go after new viewers, but they don’t have to go younger to get them. Watching soaps is a family affair. It’s something you do with your family more specifically a parent. It’s a childhood memory of time together that as an adult is phone conversations when calling home. Young people want to see what the adults are doing. Just look at the original Dallas. All the actors were in there 30’s and 40’s on the show. I love GH but when they have too much of “the kids” on, I usually don’t watch too heavy.

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    momosity

    Those are some very good points. I for one would really like to see some ACTUAL closure for John and Natalie, not the half-a$$ed way they’ve dealt with it so far. Is Prospect Park definitely going to be doing this in NYC? That would be nice for some of the veterans, but it definitely wouldn’t be fair to keep jerking RH, KA and ME back and forth from LA.

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    testadoda

    Not having been a OLTL fan or watcher,who cares. Todd is just to off the wall for me.At first he was funny,and I like comedy,now HIm and his daughter can go. Call Mcbain mc cain and have him stay. I think he has chemistry with everyone,Anna Sam,even Lucy.
    If the actors are not under contract to PP let them write the shows for the others that want to return.
    They can just change their names,and keep them. 4 days a week half hour shows and all the characters they have what will they do Three lines a day?

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    jthawk

    The only character I see Prospect Park really needing is John McBain to wrap up his relationship with Natalie. Todd was found not guilty for Victor’s murder and Starr technically left OLTL to move to LA.

    All that said, perhaps ABCD should have put a clause in the extenion of the licensing to Prospect Park or worked this out before they extended their licensing.

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    basilnsybil

    These characters have staying power for GH would much rather have them on GH than Sabrina, Britt and Kristina. Having Todd, John and even Starr brings positive things for GH more viewers as fans from OLTL will likely want to follow these well known established characters more viewers for the long haul. GH had so much mob depressing stories and characters. Todd is out there sometimes but his comedy wacky manners lighten things up.John is a classic soap hero in a show already top heavy with bad boys. Starr sometimes can be annoying but still works better than Sabrina and Kristina for the that age group. Also having these characters on air is kinda of a reminder of sorts to ABC of their network stupid decision to can OLTL.

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    dellygrim

    If the PP revivals succeed abc will make $ for doing nothing. I think the best case scenario for Abc is for PP to do well with the relaunches. And if I recall correctly PP also has the option to license GH if it is cancelled. If Gh dips in ratings while PP has success with OLTL and AMC then ABC will find itself in a position to bring in $ with no overhead costs while producing cheaper shows for daytime tv. I can see why they would give PP all the chances they want

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    nysam

    @Dariclone: You haven’t read the article. ABC signed the rights to OLTL and AMC characters over to PP. Prospect Park isn’t doing anything wrong. They are within their legal rights to do so. ABC and the GH team knew this was always a possibility.

    Happy to see Starr, John and Todd go back to OLTL.

    As for value of characters, Kristina would be more valuable to GH than Starr if she was played by a better actress.

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    ferret29

    This is crap, McBain and Starr can go. Only reason I watched oltl was for Todd. Been watching GH for 35 years and was ecstatic when Todd came on, now to leave, guess my 2:00 opens up, will watch once in a while. Hope he just plan refuses, or limits to say a month. Not like I truly believe this format will work and will die a painful death like a few other shows that tried it, Black Donnelley’s being one. Todd at least gave some humour and got it away from the mob storyline that was just running on far to long and really GH became the Sonny show. Don’t get me wrong I do like him, just overkill and Todd helped break that up and still added some nastiness also not mob related.

    Ruined my night to read this.

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    Yoryla

    I find it funny how people all over the message boards are lamenting away about “What a big mess this is!”

    It’s not such a big deal. Things like these have to be dealt with in the corporate world on a weekly basis. They just need to sit down and reach to a, hopefully mutually beneficial, agreement. After that, it is up to the actors whether they want to be in the relaunch, or will the roles be recasted. It’s really not such a big of deal. The only thing is to wait for ABC and PP to negotiate it out.

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    Joliefan88

    For me these three are part of GH nowand if the actors are happy here then PP and ABC should find a way to keep everyone happy. Have them wrap up their stories and come back.

    Really?? Keep everyone happy?? OH YOU MEAN GH FANS! BULL!!!!! Those are PP CHARACTERS NOT GH’S! And that is something you GH fans need to GRASP!
    Number 1 it had already been established on OLTL that Marty changed the Results of the test and LIAM IS JOHN’S REGARDLESS IF GH FANS LIKE IT OR NOT! When John left to go get “Todd” he had just gotten back with Natalie and they were planning on getting married so NO there is NO wrapping up their “story line”

    FYI PP does not have to follow GH’s Story lines with these characters, And yes they do OWN them characters too, so yea they can just wipe out GH killing off 2 characters ABC had no DEAL to USE and bring them back for Starr where they should be….

    The “2 Todd” Story line is FAR FROM OVER, so NO it is not tricky!

    Some of you GH fans need to REALIZE them characters are NOT yours and PP and OLTL fans should not have to “Take one for them team” because RC FV AND ABC was given an inch by PP and they took off miles down the road with it and now want us to bite it to help them SCREW THAT!!

    I keep hearing “Oh the actors are happy on here and with ABC” Funny ABC is not ALLOWING them to speak to the Media so all we are getting is ABC’s Word for what the actors want! If they are so confident in the actors happiness and wanting to stay on the show why not let them talk to the media? Why not allow them to talk to PP?? They have their own minds and mouths why not let them speak? Why keep them quiet ABC?????

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