Todd, John and Starr OUT at General Hospital! Will They Return?



Look for the characters of John McBain (Michael Easton), Todd (Roger Howarth) and Starr Manning (Kristen Alderson) to at least temporarily exit General Hospital some time in the near future, according to sources. Per the agreement ABC Daytime made when they originally brought on the three One Life to Live characters, GH has to stop using Todd and Co. now that Prospect Park's The Online Network is prepping to relaunch OLTL.

Prospect Park—which licensed OLTL and All My Children following their cancellations by ABC—wants to use the three character to help relaunch OLTL on the web and via other digital and cable platforms. However, PP might not want them for the long haul.

"Prospect Park realizes these three characters could initially help draw fans to the new One Life," explains a source. "There are ongoing talks between ABC and Prospect Park about the characters returning to General Hospital at some point, which could be fine with [Prospect Park] as they eventually want to go much younger with their soaps."

While Easton, Howarth and Alderson are said to be less than ethused with the "prospects" of leaving their day jobs, there's speculation that ABC—to which they are under contract—could ask them to appear on OLTL in a show of good faith.

"There's no guarantee the actors will do it," says one mole, "but people high up on the Disney-ABC food chain want to see these shows succeed online. The network might ask them to do it as a favor."

Expect the fictional Llanview Three to air on GH at least through February Sweeps.

 

 


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Let's set the record straight....if it weren't for OLTL none of these actors would be known or had careers. They should be happy to help relaunch the soap that gave them their start. They are more valuable to OLTL than they are at GH. GH has an abundance of riches with Anna, Lucy, Felicia, Laura, Liz, Tracy, Luke, AJ, Patrick. The $ saved cutting these 3 loose allows for more GH vets to return and for the writers to actually write for GH characters rather than seeing Anna once a week and having her vanish for 3 weeks. How about getting Robert back permanently.

I'm proud of PP. Obviously, they are serious about rebooting OLTL and want the popular characters on their canvas to make sure that they make the show a success. Ron & Frank took these 3 characters because of their popularity with the OLTL audience. Of course, OLTL is going to want them back.

As for feeling sorry about these actors having to uproot their lives and move some of you people make it sound like it is 1813 and they are doing in a wagon train as they battle indians. I travel all the time for work. It's my job. I'm sure PP will provide temporary housing for these 3 that will be quite nice. Don't feel sorry for them. At Kristen's age most kids go off to college. She can think of it as the college experience she never had.

Matthew and Destiny are being recast for different reasons. Eddie/Matthew could act so he probably doesn't want to return and will stay in LA trying to make it in film. Shanelle/Destiny....well my nana taught me if I didn't have anything nice to say to say nothing at all.

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No Daisy you nailed it on the head - they own the rights to the characters not the actors...ABC owns the contract for Roger, Kristen & Michael and if Cartini chooses they can simply apply a different name to them (unlikely)

For me these three are part of GH nowand if the actors are happy here then PP and ABC should find a way to keep everyone happy. Have them wrap up their stories and come back.

1. Go back and make Brody the baby daddy of Nat's child

2. Have Starr just say that she found love after Cole and Hope (but if PP owns the rights to those characters are they really dead)

3. And Todd well that may be trickier

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Since these three are (apparently) needed for the "Tale of Two Todds" wrap up, I'd be inclined to let them be "returned" and, if at all possible have their characters be referenced in phone calls and dialogue on GH so as to remain viable with what RC and FV are doing there. As regards the actual "Two Todds" will the new head writers continue with Cartini's existing story bible/platform, will they tweak it as they go, or complletely re-fashion it as they see fit for the re-launch? However they proceed will probably determine how long any of these three characters/actors remain with the re-boot of OLTL... Innocent

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Im betting Todd & Starr return Cause Victor Jr is found. John Will talk to Natalie & figure out whats best for Liam. When that is done, I bet they return to Gh but will visit OLTL when story calls for it.

Im sure KA, ME & RH would be open to that

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I don't like the sound of Prospect Park wanting to make OLTL and AMC younger, that is what usually makes me want to switch off; B&B wanted to go younger and look what crap we're left with!

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These characters belong to OLTL PP PAID for these characters I can't fault them for wanting them back. That's like paying the price for Erica Kane but not getting to use her.

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I think it will all work out. I believe these characters will go back TEMPORARILY to make the OLTL launch (if it really happens) more successful and then go back to GH. All three of these actors (especially RH) are very popular and carry weight in the soap world. They aren't going to get screwed over in the long run. That's my take on it. And to the haters, we all know these characters and their portrayers have contributed positively to the well-being of GH.

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Ron should put Kristina Wagner, Tristan Rogers and Ian Buchanan or Jon Lindstrom, Lynn Herring and Wally Kurth on contract in the place of those 3..

We don't even know if PP even contacted Eddie or Shenell.. I'm not happy about that

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appleridge wrote:
Given who PP has signed so far I dont buy they are looking to go younger

Call me cynical, but I think that they are betting on KA, ME, and RH declining to come to OLTL...so they can recast for cheaper. It says something that they are recasting Matthew, who was played by KA's brother. I find it hard to believe that they want KA to come to CT, and they don't want EA to come with her. I don't buy their "going younger" thing either. They want people to be comforted by the possibility of the characters returning...but if they have something good going, they won't let loose. If anything, whatever is being negotiated now will have an out for PP. Ultimately, even if the characters come back to GH, will PP still own the license to them??? Does that mean they can always pull them back???

But again, that is me being cynical.

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We haven't seen Felicia since November - she still on there?

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nysam wrote:
As for feeling sorry about these actors having to uproot their lives and move some of you people make it sound like it is 1813 and they are doing in a wagon train as they battle indians. I travel all the time for work. It's my job. I'm sure PP will provide temporary housing for these 3 that will be quite nice. Don't feel sorry for them. At Kristen's age most kids go off to college. She can think of it as the college experience she never had.

And you make it sound like they are going to be forced to rejoin OLTL. The actors don't have to uproot their lives, the only way they will be working for PP is if they choose too.

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mufasa wrote:
We haven't seen Felicia since November - she still on there?

Felecia has been on GH the last two Days

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I wanted to ask a question regarding the characters/actors currently on GH.

I realise that Prospect Park have leased the rights to the entire image etc.. of OLTL; characters, storylines, the entire 'Llanview' fictional universe etc... and although they don't own the show etc..., the fact that they have leased the rights for so many years means that until those rights expire, ABC (although still the owners) have no rights to any of OLTL until Prospect Park's lease expires.

When the first online continuation fell through and GH signed the 3 actors (and the two recurring actors) didn't they get permission from Prospect Park to do so? They would surely have to with PP owning the characters at that point; pay PP a rental of characters fee etc...?

I had also read somewhere that ABC had signed the 3 actors to 3 year deals on GH. Surely they would have got clearance with PP in case PP decided to go ahead and try again with the revival (as they have eventually done). If this was the case where ABC got permission, surely PP don't have any right to enforce the returns of the characters?

If PP do have the rights to remove the characters from GH and return them to OLTL, I realise that the actors have no obligation to return and that PP only have rights to write about/recast those characters but I wanted to ask a question regarding these 3 year ABC deals that the actors have got.

I have seen forum posts where people have said the actors would not want to move from a television salary to an internet salary. If ABC remove the 3 actors and they refuse to return to OLTL or even if the actors do return to OLTL whether temporarily or permanently, surely ABC have to pay their 'television wage' whatever the actors do as ABC are legally obligated to pay them for 3 years and if they go to OLTL or don't go to OLTL, the actors signed a contract to work on GH and didn't quit or leave under bad circumstances; ABC and PP forced them to leave their roles on GH.

Just wondered if anyone could clear it up.

Thanks

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A cynic is a romatnic who has seen the world....Tony Geary, SOAP OPERA WEEKLY 1998.

PP doesn't own the actors. They own the rights to the characters. They can't make Eddie Alderson return as "Matthew" if he doesn't want to. Eddie is a talented actor so he is probably going out for primetime and film work. His sister, Kristen isn't good. She is lucky to be on GH. Edmonds was a bad actress so they are replacing her.

If I were PP I would bring all 3 back to launch the OLTL. Wrap John's story with Natalie and send him back to GH. I would keep Todd preferably with Roger Howarth in the role. If he doesn't want to play the part then replace him with another actor. It was done before and can be done again. As for Starr I would get KA back to OLTL and have her character in an accident and give her plastic surgery replacing her with a better actress. IF GH still want Alderson they can create a new role on GH for her.

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thecourt99 They probably want KA because she is currently portraying Starr on GH as for Eddie he may of turned them down. I do think unless another deal is reached that PP will own the characters even if they return to GH its just a mess really.

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James73, soap actors work on "cycles". They may have signed for 3 years, but it is standard in daytime deals to have the right for the network to let them go every 13 weeks. They simply have to give notice to the actor 13 weeks in advance. If an actor's cycle isn't picked up then they are let go. ABC probably didn't pick up their most recent cycle and that probably means the 3 will exiting the PC canvas come late March/early April.

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Damn.

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nysam wrote:
James73, soap actors work on "cycles". They may have signed for 3 years, but it is standard in daytime deals to have the right for the network to let them go every 13 weeks. They simply have to give notice to the actor 13 weeks in advance. If an actor's cycle isn't picked up then they are let go. ABC probably didn't pick up their most recent cycle and that probably means the 3 will exiting the PC canvas come late March/early April.

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According to Stuart Damon (Alan Q, GH) he said on Soaptalk once that if a soap wants to let u go they must inform no later than 4 weeks before your current cycle ends

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So they would have to (pay) to relocate AGAIN and they'd be making a fraction of what they are now at ABC. Move and a pay cut? Wow how enticing.

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The thing is that maybe those actors do not want to go back to OLTL. I think they all moved to the west coast and moved on. If they want to use them temporary to launch the new show, that sounds OK. I see no reason to come up with a lame reason to move them all back. Maybe I can see John trying to make it work with Natalie and Starr going back to be with Blair. But Todd did not fit in with the OLTL cast the second time around. I enjoy him 1000 times better on GH and with Carly. Blair and Todd were hot years ago but Blair has worked her way through Llanview and is now with Tomas and is content so let her stay with him. I think they need to try & get Trevor St John back even for just to finish up that story. That would bea good reason for all 3 of them to go back temp.

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I am not upset the least in hearing this news. Let Starr, Todd, and John go back to their home which is OLTL. I have no desire for any of the actors to return. Sorry, but that is how I feel. I want GH to be GH and not a crossover show. I hope that with this we get more return of GH vets and also some of these vets get the contracts that these OLTL actors already had!!!

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Why would they have to move? All they have to pay for is a plane ticket to CT & Lodging especially if its only a temp thing

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days4ever wrote:
The thing is that maybe those actors do not want to go back to OLTL. I think they all moved to the west coast and moved on. If they want to use them temporary to launch the new show, that sounds OK. I see no reason to come up with a lame reason to move them all back. Maybe I can see John trying to make it work with Natalie and Starr going back to be with Blair. But Todd did not fit in with the OLTL cast the second time around. I enjoy him 1000 times better on GH and with Carly. Blair and Todd were hot years ago but Blair has worked her way through Llanview and is now with Tomas and is content so let her stay with him. I think they need to try & get Trevor St John back even for just to finish up that story. That would bea good reason for all 3 of them to go back temp.

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I think itll be temp. Todd & Starr will deal with family stuff in Llanview & John & Natalie will come to terms regarding Liam. Then they return to GH but visit OLTL when story warrants.

I could see KA RH & ME being open to that

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I think it's a good sign that PP is interested in just using the characters for a while to introduce the show! They can return back to GH after say a month or so. GH really needs them and has done so much better since they came on, plus having Ron and Frank.
Todd can come back to wrap up Victor's murder story, Victor needs to come back he can be OLTL's male lead again so Todd can go back to GH. There should be a Blair/Victor/Tea triangle on OLTL.
John can come back to eventually break up with Natalie. I wouldn't mind, like the other poster who said that Brody could turn out to be the father. I'd love to have Brody back on, he is so damn hot and such eye candy!
Starr I guess could come back to help be with her dad during the Victor story and to visit her family.
I can understand the actors being upset since they now live in CA and I'm sure get paid a whole lot more working on a network soap like GH.

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If always drives me batty when people say oh if so and so was gone then blank could be hired as if actors are as interchangeable as characters. Actors have different needs and wants that have zero to do with cash, Steve Burton is exhibit 1. I may be wrong, I have no evidence but I would be stunned to discover that he is being paid as much by Y&R as he was by GH, Steve wanted what he wanted and Jack Wagner, the actor I most want to see, wants what he wants.
In addition to actor needs, there are the producer's assessments of the value of an actor and the writer's desire to incorporate the character.

I have mostly enjoyed what I call the 90s redux(Anna and all she touches), Todd and Starr. I almost like McBain on GH though I could not stand him on OneLIfe. Barbra Jean Spencer is the reason I started watching GH and I'd love to see her back with Laura and Scotty. I restate that I'd love to see Frisco but I want him trying to woo Felicia. My point: we all have a vision of the show.

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Its quite possible that they can shoot a ton of episode in advance? Since their will only be 42 weeks and 4 eps per week at 30 min maybe they can film 3-4 months of scenes in like a month then go back to GH and shoot some more? Why not have 2 jobs? lol

This should be interesting.

I am not caught up to any of their scenes on GH but did John explain to Natalie why he was in Port Charles especially after he just found out Liam was his when OLTL left?

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And they really killed off Hope in that car crash too? Wow I had heard about Cole. Was Starr believable as a mother who's child just died?

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PP (not the actors/GH/ABCD) owns the characters and nobody is putting a gun to the actors' heads forcing them to work for PP.

RC/FV and the actors involved had to know there was always a chance PP could bring back OLTL but chose to move those characters to GH anyway. If RC was dead set on bringing these actors to GH perhaps he should've brought them on as different characters. It would not have been a stretch to bring ME back as Caleb if he was going end up going there anyway with this Lucy s/l.

As a long time GH fan I'm not disappointed to see these characters go. As a long time OLTL fan I want closure on John/Natalie which is the reason I could never accept John on GH. Some of us would also like closure on the 2 Todds s/l. I love RH but Starr and Todd don't really fit on GH. I was ok with Starr on OLTL but hate the character on GH.

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I am not sure what is going to happen but you can see that Cartini is looking at a possible Carly=Aj pairing and now I can see why.

I love McBam and to me that is the only thing worth it! John is not needed on OLTL Star and Todd are. Star is stinking up the GH canvas and needs to go. Reveal that Cole and Hope are alive and let her go.

Michael can be with Serena when she gets to town or they could pair him with Liz! Hey that would drive Carly simply crazy!

Todd can go or stay I am still torn. I love his banter with everyone but he still feels a tad out of place. I would have rather seen Roger create a new role, Kristen create a new role and Easton create a new but well similar role to the character on OLTL. They could have easily made KA RH daughter and we would have bought it.

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What a mess. ABC should have never cancelled AMC & OLTL in the first place. GH has a very rich history of characters, writers, etc,, and really does not need the OLTL crew. I say send all of the OLTL peeps over to PP and let them continue with the show.