Roger Howarth and Kristen Alderson Set to Exit General Hospital by Feb. 8!


 




As expected, Roger Howarth (Todd) and Kristen Alderson (Starr) will be joining fellow One Life to Live transplant Michael Easton (McBain) in exiting General Hospital by the end of next week. Since GH tapes several weeks in advance, the trio will continue to be seen on air for the duration of the month of February and possibly into early March.

These departures are the result of the ongoing legal battle between Disney-ABC and OLTL licensee Prospect Park. Prospect Park plans to begin airing new episodes of OLTL and All My Children online this spring. The production company is said to want the three characters—which they licensed to Disney-ABC for use on GH until such time as they were able to put OLTL in production again— back.

Word is, Disney-ABC and Prospect Park have reached an impasse in attempting to work out a deal which would allow Howarth, Alderson and Easton to reprise their roles on OLTL, while eventually returning to GH.

"At this point, no one knows if the characters will ever be going back to GH," says a source.

As previously reported, actors Howarth, Alderson and Easton remain under contract with ABC and reside in Los Angeles. Prospect Park's reboot of OLTL will be taped in Connecticut.

50 Responses

  1. Avatar of LisaM
    LisaM

    This is very unfair to the actors. Does PP think forcing them out of their jobs will make them move to Connecticut to do the reboot? PP didnt even have financing until recently no one knows how much they got and how long it lasts.

  2. Avatar of SavePortChuck
    SavePortChuck

    This is really unfair to the actors. Prospect Park was the one to drop the ball in the beginning. Was everyone just expected to sit around and do nothing while they got their act together? They should just let these characters stay on GH at this point. It’s enough to make me cancel all plans on purchasing the reboots when they start.

  3. Avatar of Soap_Stud
    Soap_Stud

    I have always said any soap role can be recast, but how many recasts can fans tolerate or be okay with? #OLTL #AMC are doing so many..and it sounds like Todd, Starr, & McBain will also be recast.

  4. Avatar of Forever21
    Forever21

    Here is what I have heard about PP from someone who knows someone….. As of last week at least one of the actors who signed on is unsure its happening. AMC is scheduled to tape first before OLTL in March.

  5. Avatar of Secrets and Lies
    Secrets and Lies

    This is SUCH a bummer. As someone who started watching GH in 2012, Todd absolutely makes the show for me. The days he is not on are still good but just not as great. I will keep watching but this is a huge loss.

  6. Avatar of really
    really

    The only people at fault for this are FV and RC!!! They are the only ones that should get blame,PP has a legal right to these characters and always did, they did NOT drop the ball they lost financing and were actively looking to get it back everyone including FV and RC knew this. But they pathetically could not let OLTL go so instead of doing right by GH and these three actors and bringing them on as new characters they brought them on as characters that PP had the legal right to use. So now GH will have dropped stories and be in a mess again over these crossovers and the actors out of a job because of FV and RC’s egos!!!

    All of this mess would have been avoided if these three actors were new characters.

  7. Avatar of js3557
    js3557

    I agree with “really”. They should not have tried to revive OLTL on GH. They should have had these three actors play new characters. The only one I will be sad to see go is Todd. He cracks me up every time he is on.

    btw…I have always dvr’d GH and DOOL because I work full-time. I started to dvr Y&R because of Burton. I use to watch GH first, then DOOL (if I had time) every night. Now I watch Y&R first. Sometimes I even watch DOOL over GH now. I really like the actors and stories on Y&R. The only thing I don’t like is some of their sets. They seem really old and dark. The guy that plays Adam is amazing. He is good looking and is a really good actor. I also really like Jack and Billy Abbott. I don’t care much for Victor because I think the actor is lazy with his emoting and speech.

  8. Avatar of thecourt99
    thecourt99

    What am I missing here? Why are the actors being forced to leave? Is PP forcing them (they have no legal authority over the actors, just the characters)….or is ABC forcing them?

  9. Avatar of TV Gord
    TV Gord

    [quote=really]All of this mess would have been avoided if these three actors were new characters.[/quote]

    If they had gone to GH as new characters, I would not have returned to GH. I was interested specifically because they are playing their OLTL characters.

  10. Avatar of MotownKate4Soaps
    MotownKate4Soaps

    I am really disappointed. Never watched OLTL on TV until the very end of its run on ABC only because I knew some of the characters would be on GH and wanted to get acquainted. However, I really like the transplants and think they fit well into the stories. Better than some random new people showing up. It wouldn’t be too lucrative for Chad Duell, Brandon Barash, Laura Wright, or Kelly Monaco but perhaps out of goodwill, they could cross over to the online OLTL briefly to make it make sense that suddenly Todd, Starr, and John go back to Llanview for a while. I personally hate even watching any TV show online and am so used to my DVR so don’t think I can ever get into a web-only series of any kind. Here’s hoping this can all be figured out very soon.

  11. Avatar of CTwildheart
    CTwildheart

    [quote=SavePortChuck]This is really unfair to the actors. Prospect Park was the one to drop the ball in the beginning. Was everyone just expected to sit around and do nothing while they got their act together? They should just let these characters stay on GH at this point. It’s enough to make me cancel all plans on purchasing the reboots when they start.[/quote]

    You don’t have to purchase the reboots, they will be shown with some commercials on regular HULU and also on the Online Network that PP is starting.

  12. Avatar of TV Gord
    TV Gord

    They won’t be on The Online Network. The Hollywood Reporter got that wrong, and other websites picked that up mistake and spread it around.

    They will be available on Hulu (free with commercials), Hulu Plus (subscription) and iTunes (for a fee).

  13. Avatar of CTwildheart
    CTwildheart

    [quote=really]The only people at fault for this are FV and RC!!! They are the only ones that should get blame,PP has a legal right to these characters and always did, they did NOT drop the ball they lost financing and were actively looking to get it back everyone including FV and RC knew this. But they pathetically could not let OLTL go so instead of doing right by GH and these three actors and bringing them on as new characters they brought them on as characters that PP had the legal right to use. So now GH will have dropped stories and be in a mess again over these crossovers and the actors out of a job because of FV and RC’s egos!!!

    All of this mess would have been avoided if these three actors were new characters.[/quote]

    You can’t blame Frank and Ron when Prospect Park “licensed (those three characters) to Disney-ABC for use on GH until such time as they were able to put OLTL in production again” PP could have said no.

  14. Avatar of stefanstavros
    stefanstavros

    I’m still holding out hope that an agreement can be worked out so the characters can, indeed, return to GH. I believe it will happen. And I do think they have become a fine addition to the GH canvas.

  15. Avatar of
    TamponTammy

    People this is completely a publicity scam. Prospect Park would not want to pay these actors what they are paid in their Disney contracts. They save more money by NOT using them. This whole thing is a just a scam to create buzz and draw attention by some lame PR people.
    They will return to GH just fine, there’s no way their not going to. This whole thing is just to get people talking and draw attention to OLTL.

  16. Avatar of CTwildheart
    CTwildheart

    [quote=TV Gord]They won’t be on The Online Network. The Hollywood Reporter got that wrong, and other websites picked that up mistake and spread it around.
    They will be available on Hulu (free with commercials), Hulu Plus (subscription) and iTunes (for a fee).[/quote]

    According to the press release from Prospect Park: “We are pleased to confirm that Prospect Park is reviving the beloved soap operas, All My Children and One Life To Live as the anchor programs on The Online Network (TOLN).”

  17. Avatar of highdensity02
    highdensity02

    I see it as this: PP will ask the actors to reprise their roles for the reboot and to get storylines resolved and such. If the actors say no, then they say no which will force PP to recast. Once the recasts get on screen and either fans complain about the recsats or the storylines finish (whichever comes first), PP will release the characters back to GH and the three actors will be able to resume their role.

    I have a feeling that after about a month or so of OLTL airing, KA, RH and ME will be back to in Port Charles.

  18. Avatar of CTwildheart
    CTwildheart

    [quote=thecourt99]What am I missing here? Why are the actors being forced to leave? Is PP forcing them (they have no legal authority over the actors, just the characters)….or is ABC forcing them?[/quote]

    Prospect Park can force them off of GH right now because PP still has the rights to those characters since they are putting OLTL back into production. So while the characters must go, the actors could stay at GH as new characters.

  19. Avatar of josser
    josser

    This is sad. The actors don’t want to move to CT. California is now their home. Since they have a contract w/ ABC, they’ll be paid through a 13-week cycle. After which, ABC will have to let them go.

    I hope ABC is able to keep Easton in his role as Caleb Morley. He could at least reunite with his son Rafe.

  20. Avatar of josser
    josser

    This is sad. The actors don’t want to move to CT. California is now their home. Since they have a contract w/ ABC, they’ll be paid through a 13-week cycle. After which, ABC will have to let them go.

    I hope ABC is able to keep Easton in his role as Caleb Morley. He could at least reunite with his son Rafe.

  21. Avatar of TV Gord
    TV Gord

    [quote=CTwildheart]According to the press release from Prospect Park: “We are pleased to confirm that Prospect Park is reviving the beloved soap operas, All My Children and One Life To Live as the anchor programs on The Online Network (TOLN).”[/quote]

    This does not appear anywhere in the news release they issued on January 25th, so I don’t know where you’re getting that. Here’s the official news release from beginning to end (and you’ll notice even the headline makes no mention of it being streaming on The Online Network):

    “All My Children” and “One Life To Live”

    Set to Premiere Digitally on Hulu, Hulu Plus and iTunes

    Prospect Park Announces Landmark Digital Distribution Agreement to Bring First-Run, Broadcast-Quality Episodes of Wildly Popular Shows Directly to Fans on Demand

    Company also Closes Financing with ABRY Partners

    Los Angeles, CA and New York, NY – January 25, 2013 – In a groundbreaking move that brings premium first-run, broadcast-quality programming to a mass-market audience via the internet, Prospect Park’s The Online Network (TOLN) announced today that the Company has reached an agreement with Hulu and the iTunes Store to distribute all-new episodes of “All My Children” and “One Life To Live.” Through the Hulu distribution agreement, the hugely popular daily dramas will reach tens of millions of fans via the free Hulu.com service, as well as millions of Hulu Plus subscribers watching on connected TVs, mobile phones, tablets and PCs. iTunes customers can enjoy viewing on iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, Apple TV and their Mac or PC. The announcement was made today by Prospect Park Chairman and CEO, Jeff Kwatinetz.

    “I believe that both Hulu and iTunes have the vision, the reach and the technology to help us launch TOLN in a significant way,” Kwatinetz said. “We think these platforms are part of history, helping us to transform distribution. Hulu’s reach, platform and advertising prowess are best in class, and iTunes provides an incredible way to buy TV shows that is second to none. Through both of these partners, we hope daytime drama fans are absolutely delighted to be able to watch their favorite programs in a broadcast-quality HD format wherever and whenever they want.”

    Separately, Prospect Park has closed its financing with ABRY Partners, one of the most experienced and successful media-focused private equity investment firms in North America. Since 1989, ABRY has completed over $36 billion in leveraged transactions and other private equity investments involving approximately 450 properties.

    Brent Stone, a partner at ABRY Partners, stated, “We are excited to be partnering with Jeff Kwatinetz and the rest of the team at Prospect Park, and we strongly believe that they will continue to be a leader in their innovative approach to content creation.”

    Kwatinetz continued, “We are privileged to the have the backing and partnership with Brent and his team at ABRY, who are proven, brilliant investors, and will help us reach our ultimate goals.”

    Starting this spring, viewers can stream the beloved serial dramas “All My Children” and “One Life To Live” on the free Hulu.com service and the Hulu Plus subscription service. New 30-minute episodes of “All My Children” and “One Life To Live” will be introduced each weekday. This innovative content deal will re-introduce these venerable daytime hits in a new format perfect for the viewing habits of the digital generation. Prospect Park and TOLN plan to blend new themes, fresh stars and youthful energy with the familiar actors and writers who made these shows must-watch afternoon viewing for legions of loyal fans.

    The agreement with Hulu also allows brands and marketers to connect with a highly desirable and engaged audience. Hulu will manage the advertising sales for both shows, and package integrated sponsorship opportunities. TOLN will also offer ecommerce and other digital marketing programs to brands and entities looking to tap into Hulu’s mass market demographic. Additionally, Hulu will promote both series across its subscription and free-to-view platforms.

    Under the leadership of Kwatinetz and Rich Frank, Prospect Park in 2011 forged a multi-year, multi-platform licensing agreement with Disney/ABC Domestic Television Group to continue production of “All My Children” and “One Life to Live.” Prospect Park has also entered into a consulting agreement with Agnes Nixon, the creator of both series, guaranteeing her active involvement in their continued production. “All My Children” and “One Life to Live” ended their runs on ABC Television in September, 2011 and January, 2012, respectively.

    Earlier in this month, Prospect Park announced guild agreements with Hollywood’s major labor groups, the Screen Actors Guild and the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists, and the Directors Guild of America. The company also finalized a deal with the Writer’s Guild of America.

    About Prospect Park

    Prospect Park is a media and production company founded in 2009 by entertainment industry veterans Jeffrey Kwatinetz and former Disney Studios head Rich Frank. Along with successful film and music divisions, the company’s television group has numerous shows in development and breakout network hits airing including “Royal Pains” and “Wilfred.”

  22. Avatar of TV Gord
    TV Gord

    Also, Matt Webb Mitovich at TV Line specifically asked. Here are the pertinent posts from its message board:

    Wasn’t the original plan to air them for free on some new website they’re creating called “The Online Network”? Guess that fell through.
    Comment by dude – January 25, 2013 12:22 PM PST REPLY TO THIS POST

    They are still showing it on the online network
    Comment by Joe – January 25, 2013 12:48 PM PST REPLY TO THIS POST

    Not true. I asked.
    Comment by Matt Webb Mitovich – January 25, 2013 01:14 PM PST REPLY TO THIS POST

    Thanks Matt
    Comment by Joe – January 25, 2013 01:15 PM PST REPLY TO THIS POST

  23. Avatar of SwanQueen59
    SwanQueen59

    I have come to accept the OLTL characters on GH partially for the fact that all three opened up new story avenues for characters already on canvas with GH. From a business/practical perspective, all three were “proven commodities” that have brought, I believe, other eyes in to watch GH where previously they might not have bothered. I didn’t think I’d say this but I am hoping they return and that some sort of sharing agreement can be reached between ABC/D and PP… 0:)

  24. Avatar of CTwildheart
    CTwildheart

    [quote=TV Gord][quote=CTwildheart]According to the press release from Prospect Park: “We are pleased to confirm that Prospect Park is reviving the beloved soap operas, All My Children and One Life To Live as the anchor programs on The Online Network (TOLN).”[/quote]

    This does not appear anywhere in the news release they issued on January 25th, so I don’t know where you’re getting that. Here’s the official news release from beginning to end (and you’ll notice even the headline makes no mention of it being streaming on The Online Network):

    “All My Children” and “One Life To Live”

    Set to Premiere Digitally on Hulu, Hulu Plus and iTunes

    Prospect Park Announces Landmark Digital Distribution Agreement to Bring First-Run, Broadcast-Quality Episodes of Wildly Popular Shows Directly to Fans on Demand

    Company also Closes Financing with ABRY Partners

    Los Angeles, CA and New York, NY – January 25, 2013 – In a groundbreaking move that brings premium first-run, broadcast-quality programming to a mass-market audience via the internet, Prospect Park’s The Online Network (TOLN) announced today that the Company has reached an agreement with Hulu and the iTunes Store to distribute all-new episodes of “All My Children” and “One Life To Live.” Through the Hulu distribution agreement, the hugely popular daily dramas will reach tens of millions of fans via the free Hulu.com service, as well as millions of Hulu Plus subscribers watching on connected TVs, mobile phones, tablets and PCs. iTunes customers can enjoy viewing on iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, Apple TV and their Mac or PC. The announcement was made today by Prospect Park Chairman and CEO, Jeff Kwatinetz.

    “I believe that both Hulu and iTunes have the vision, the reach and the technology to help us launch TOLN in a significant way,” Kwatinetz said. “We think these platforms are part of history, helping us to transform distribution. Hulu’s reach, platform and advertising prowess are best in class, and iTunes provides an incredible way to buy TV shows that is second to none. Through both of these partners, we hope daytime drama fans are absolutely delighted to be able to watch their favorite programs in a broadcast-quality HD format wherever and whenever they want.”

    Separately, Prospect Park has closed its financing with ABRY Partners, one of the most experienced and successful media-focused private equity investment firms in North America. Since 1989, ABRY has completed over $36 billion in leveraged transactions and other private equity investments involving approximately 450 properties.

    Brent Stone, a partner at ABRY Partners, stated, “We are excited to be partnering with Jeff Kwatinetz and the rest of the team at Prospect Park, and we strongly believe that they will continue to be a leader in their innovative approach to content creation.”

    Kwatinetz continued, “We are privileged to the have the backing and partnership with Brent and his team at ABRY, who are proven, brilliant investors, and will help us reach our ultimate goals.”

    Starting this spring, viewers can stream the beloved serial dramas “All My Children” and “One Life To Live” on the free Hulu.com service and the Hulu Plus subscription service. New 30-minute episodes of “All My Children” and “One Life To Live” will be introduced each weekday. This innovative content deal will re-introduce these venerable daytime hits in a new format perfect for the viewing habits of the digital generation. Prospect Park and TOLN plan to blend new themes, fresh stars and youthful energy with the familiar actors and writers who made these shows must-watch afternoon viewing for legions of loyal fans.

    The agreement with Hulu also allows brands and marketers to connect with a highly desirable and engaged audience. Hulu will manage the advertising sales for both shows, and package integrated sponsorship opportunities. TOLN will also offer ecommerce and other digital marketing programs to brands and entities looking to tap into Hulu’s mass market demographic. Additionally, Hulu will promote both series across its subscription and free-to-view platforms.

    Under the leadership of Kwatinetz and Rich Frank, Prospect Park in 2011 forged a multi-year, multi-platform licensing agreement with Disney/ABC Domestic Television Group to continue production of “All My Children” and “One Life to Live.” Prospect Park has also entered into a consulting agreement with Agnes Nixon, the creator of both series, guaranteeing her active involvement in their continued production. “All My Children” and “One Life to Live” ended their runs on ABC Television in September, 2011 and January, 2012, respectively.

    Earlier in this month, Prospect Park announced guild agreements with Hollywood’s major labor groups, the Screen Actors Guild and the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists, and the Directors Guild of America. The company also finalized a deal with the Writer’s Guild of America.

    About Prospect Park

    Prospect Park is a media and production company founded in 2009 by entertainment industry veterans Jeffrey Kwatinetz and former Disney Studios head Rich Frank. Along with successful film and music divisions, the company’s television group has numerous shows in development and breakout network hits airing including “Royal Pains” and “Wilfred.”[/quote]

    I got it from the PROSPECT PARK original announcement the first week of January 2013:
    The full press release from Prospect Park follows:

    “We are pleased to confirm that Prospect Park is reviving the beloved soap operas, All My Children and One Life To Live as the anchor programs on The Online Network (TOLN). Today we are also pleased to confirm that Prospect Park has: 1) signed guild agreements with both SAG-AFTRA (Screen Actors Guild and the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists) and the DGA (Directors Guild of America); 2) entered into a consulting agreement with Agnes Nixon the creator of All My Children and One Life to Live guaranteeing her active involvement; 3) hired Foz McDermott (coordinating producer Heroes) as TOLN’s head of production, Jennifer Pepperman (Director, One Life to Live) as Executive Producer on One Life to Live, and Ginger Smith (Producer, All My Children) as Executive Producer on All My Children; and 4) arranged the necessary financing to begin production in February on both All My Children and One Life To Live.

    We thank the loyal audience and new generation of fans of both shows who have demonstrated that passion and exciting story lines are not just reserved for traditional television. Their enduring support encouraged us to move forward each and every day. We look forward to sharing more details including our launch air date and additional specifics in the coming weeks.

    Please encourage fans to visit http://www.theonlinenetwork.com/ to subscribe to updates.

    Thank you,

    Jeff Kwatinetz and Rich Frank”

  25. Avatar of really
    really

    [quote=CTwildheart][quote=really]The only people at fault for this are FV and RC!!! They are the only ones that should get blame,PP has a legal right to these characters and always did, they did NOT drop the ball they lost financing and were actively looking to get it back everyone including FV and RC knew this. But they pathetically could not let OLTL go so instead of doing right by GH and these three actors and bringing them on as new characters they brought them on as characters that PP had the legal right to use. So now GH will have dropped stories and be in a mess again over these crossovers and the actors out of a job because of FV and RC’s egos!!!

    All of this mess would have been avoided if these three actors were new characters.[/quote]

    You can’t blame Frank and Ron when Prospect Park “licensed (those three characters) to Disney-ABC for use on GH until such time as they were able to put OLTL in production again” PP could have said no.[/quote]

    Actually you can, pp let abc use the characters but they did not sell them back and expressed interest in getting the financing and these shows back up, which is why they made sure they still owned the characters. Now because FV just didn’t bring these actors on as new characters, he and RC have screwed the actors and fans of the stories they are involved in.

    Not to mention the crossover did not help the ratings in fact they hurt them, so for every fan they brought they cost GH a loyal long time GH viewer. It was the 80s characters and the time change when the ratings went up prior to that RC was in the same ratings boat as Guza and GW. Something tells me with no other soap OLTL viewers would have rolled their actors and GH fans wouldn’t have been angry and left for months.

    Now people are into mcBam or Tarly and they are trashed and in the end you know who is going to get really screwed, Liz fans!!! Because in a few weeks Sam and Carly are without love interests, do you really think they won’t screw over Liz to make sure their pets Carly and Sam get a guy? Please.

    New characters and none of this would have happened and they knew it. So sorry I only hold FV and RC responsible .

  26. Avatar of Spinboy220
    Spinboy220

    I don’t know where this blaming the head writer and the producer gets anyone anywhere. If Roger Howarth, Kristen Alderson and Michael Easton came on to General Hospital as new characters, it would be very hard for fans to make the adjustment. By bringing a piece of OLTL over to GH, these characters were given new life and I’ve enjoyed seeing them interact with the GH characters. ABC did crossovers for years, between AMC, OLTL and GH. This was no different. If anything Prospect Park should be thanking these two (who obviously had the blessing of the network) for keeping OLTL alive while they stumbled in their attempts to bring OLTL to the web. Now that it may finally be happening (and I, for one, will believe it when I see it), they have kept people’s interest alive for the fictional town of Llanview.

  27. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    ABC lisenced OLTL to PP . They had ask PP to use Starr Todd John. PP said yes but ABC & GH always knew that if PP got OLTL up and running then PP could legally take those characters back to OLTL. PP is in the right here.

  28. Avatar of Mandolin
    Mandolin

    They might still return as new characters.
    I imagine ABCDisney is twisting their arms sweetly to get them to do this
    and improve OLTL 2.0 ‘s chances of success. I bet they are at least somewhat happy
    to support the new project and their cast members & crew get it off the ground.

    They’ve (and RC+ FV) been successful at integrating their characters into the fabric of GH – who knows, maybe they’ll be up for Emmys for both shows and have to compete against themselves!?

  29. Avatar of Jeff
    Jeff

    This is a major lose-lose. OLTL fans don’t want to see other actors in those roles, and it would be way past silly to have them now all play different roles on GH. I think GH should let them all go, and if they choose to go back to OLTL via PP, then fine. ABC should work with PP to release the characters back to them, and if they won’t, GH will go on just fine without the 3 of them.

  30. Avatar of rlshel1015
    rlshel1015

    i think that in the end Disney/ABC will show enough muscle to get these characters back on GH. let’s face it PP wants Disney in their corner when all is said and done. i also agree with the previous comments – bringing the characters over from OLTL has kept Llanview alive in many fans minds and this can only help PP with their reboot and there should be some gratitude there. bringing ME, RH and KA over to GH as anyone else would have been a mistake so soon after the loss of OLTL. i was a bigger fan of OLTL than GH about this time a year and a half ago and the addition of these characters helped me begin to want to watch it everyday. the show is funny and lighter again and there is more speading out of the stories other than it being the Sonny/Jason/Dante hour (sorry Steve Burton – i don’t miss you). i don’t blame FV or RC for this at all – they did the best they could and did a good job doing it. GH is up in ratings because of them – PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!!

  31. Avatar of Yoryla
    Yoryla

    I feel really bad for the three actors, who had been hired for a steady job at a network show. They should not have to pay for PP’s mistakes and delays. After the first attempt went south, I was sure PP would never try again. But, since they do own the rights to the characters, they cannot be blamed.

    However, these three are not key characters on GH. The show has survived and will survive without them.

    The people I most feel sorry for is Kelly Monaco and Ron Carlivati because this not only blows the future storyline plans for McBam to smithereens, but this leaves KeMo without her leading man for the second time in a six month period! They had so much invested in McBain/Sam/Jason/Liz, and now that was all blown to pieces. Don’t get me wrong, I am over the moon that Jason left.

  32. Avatar of Yoryla
    Yoryla

    Lol @ someone twisting and turning this to somehow be about Liz! I get that she is a popular character but I’m sorry, at this point this has absolutely nothing to do with her.

    Nor is any of this FV/RC’s fault. They wanted the actors and the characters, proposed the idea, succeeded, and voila. We had Todd Manning, Starr Manning and John McBain on GH. PP gave their permission, their license. Very simple, no shenanigans. FV/RC certainly don’t owe any sort of apologizies to any direction.

    It is lunacy to think that they would have just hired three former OLTL actors to just play some roles, likely newbie ones. That was never the point of bringing the three on.

    People should really stop making up stories that simply don’t exist, and be happy with whatever they are given – especially in this soap reviving climate that we are fortunate to be living in.

  33. Avatar of TV Gord
    TV Gord

    I agree, Yoryla. Everything you say is true, but it will take some time to say for sure whether GH will survive without them. I know, I know everyone has their own opinions about how many viewers the OLTL characters brought to GH, but I am one of those viewers. If Todd, Starr and John go so do I. Now, I’m not a Neilsen family, so I won’t personally have any effect on the ratings, but I wonder how many others feel the way I do.

    When AMC and OLTL were cancelled, GH’s ratings were very iffy. Everyone was in a panic that GH would be next. Now, Ron brought a lot of vets back, so that had an effect, too, but I don’t think it’s wise to dismiss those of us who crossed over specifically for the Llanview transpLlants. I hope our departure won’t cause a blip on the ratings, but none of us know for sure whether it would.

  34. Avatar of appleridge
    appleridge

    Although im uneasy about this #PP #ABC #OLTL #GH mess with Starr, John & Starr, I am still supporting the continuations of #OLTL & #AMC. I want the whole genre to succeed & grow, I also want AMC & OLTL to be a success not just for its loyal fans but also for their casts & crews.

  35. Avatar of ER Writer
    ER Writer

    Hmm, hopefully PP and ABCD can work something out with the actors and schedule’s so they can do both shows. It does seem crazy for OLTL to start back and not finish the Tale of Two Todd’s saga. And McBain has unfinished business with Natalie.

  36. Avatar of Daniel St. John
    Daniel St. John

    [quote=really][quote=CTwildheart][quote=really]The only people at fault for this are FV and RC!!! They are the only ones that should get blame,PP has a legal right to these characters and always did, they did NOT drop the ball they lost financing and were actively looking to get it back everyone including FV and RC knew this. But they pathetically could not let OLTL go so instead of doing right by GH and these three actors and bringing them on as new characters they brought them on as characters that PP had the legal right to use. So now GH will have dropped stories and be in a mess again over these crossovers and the actors out of a job because of FV and RC’s egos!!!
    All of this mess would have been avoided if these three actors were new characters.[/quote]
    You can’t blame Frank and Ron when Prospect Park “licensed (those three characters) to Disney-ABC for use on GH until such time as they were able to put OLTL in production again” PP could have said no.[/quote]
    Actually you can, pp let abc use the characters but they did not sell them back and expressed interest in getting the financing and these shows back up, which is why they made sure they still owned the characters. Now because FV just didn’t bring these actors on as new characters, he and RC have screwed the actors and fans of the stories they are involved in.
    Not to mention the crossover did not help the ratings in fact they hurt them, so for every fan they brought they cost GH a loyal long time GH viewer. It was the 80s characters and the time change when the ratings went up prior to that RC was in the same ratings boat as Guza and GW. Something tells me with no other soap OLTL viewers would have rolled their actors and GH fans wouldn’t have been angry and left for months.
    Now people are into mcBam or Tarly and they are trashed and in the end you know who is going to get really screwed, Liz fans!!! Because in a few weeks Sam and Carly are without love interests, do you really think they won’t screw over Liz to make sure their pets Carly and Sam get a guy? Please.
    New characters and none of this would have happened and they knew it. So sorry I only hold FV and RC responsible .[/quote]
    Lord save me from rabid Liz fans and Ron/Frank haters who seem to completely overlook the steaming pile of crap GH had become over the last few years to constantly whine about how GH vets aren’t getting enough airtime because of 3 OLTL characters when this show used to treat its vets like leftover garbage in favor of the Mob-centric characters anyway. And at the same time also seem to gloss over that Liz had been relegated to a baby factory and very little else. Sure, I am not a fan of her being backburnered for the past few months but at least she isn’t sleeping with brothers and not knowing who knocked her up.

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    liason4real

    Sure, I am not a fan of her being backburnered for the past few months but at least she isn’t sleeping with brothers and not knowing who knocked her up.
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    I miss Liz/RH not being in her own story, but no more freaking WTD crap or that stuff with Nik that made me lose my lunch.

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    really

    For the record not a Liz fan haven’t been since Wendy Richest left the building, well I love liric, nor am I a RC FV hater but this Pp is evil is crap and I’m going to call it out! They are the only reason OLTL fans have their precious show back, the current situation is because of a bad business decision by FV, that is all there is to it. And while I hate everything Guza did to GH without riche, honestly haven’t felt a real connection or love for the show since she left and I hate sonny (especially under RC) and Carly and their endless propping by Guza, I’m not going to pretend that RC doesn’t have pets to because he so obviously does and Carly, Sam and Connie are his female pets. Now lets be honest he won’t let one of his pets, especially Carly who is propped more now then under Guza, be without a man so she’ll get AJ Liz be damned! Now since I’m only a fan of an in this situation that sucks for me because he deserves better then the whore who stole his child and ruined his life, plus I was enjoying Tarly RH made me tolerate god awful LW so I’m not thrilled to loose the actor! I also like mcBam so again not thrilled about him leaving, I liked the couples and they are ruined because of a short sited business decision of FV. I will fully admit to being thrilled at the prospect of ka being gone that girl can’t act and just grates so this I admit has me happy.

    Sorry I don’t hate nor do I blindly worship like some FV or RC but when they make a bad choice I will call the actual wrong person out. Don’t assume things, I think the reaction to the cancellation has been embarrassing honestly and the treatment of PP for trying to give you back your show by some fans is appalling. At the end of the day this is business and that is all no I e is out to get soap fans.

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    1titanman

    Jamey said it on the podcast that if they could use the former OLTL talents and promote the new OLTL and maybe they could do crossovers on both shows, promotions, and online adversting it could be a win-win for both shows. Even for the characters Skye Chandler she could do a crossover on all three shows.

    You would also think ABC could even promote AMC & OLTL during The View, The Chew and GH. I mean there alot of ideas that could help both shows out in the long run-

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    CTwildheart

    [quote=TV Gord]Also, Matt Webb Mitovich at TV Line specifically asked. Here are the pertinent posts from its message board:

    Wasn’t the original plan to air them for free on some new website they’re creating called “The Online Network”? Guess that fell through.
    Comment by dude – January 25, 2013 12:22 PM PST REPLY TO THIS POST

    They are still showing it on the online network
    Comment by Joe – January 25, 2013 12:48 PM PST REPLY TO THIS POST

    Not true. I asked.
    Comment by Matt Webb Mitovich – January 25, 2013 01:14 PM PST REPLY TO THIS POST

    Thanks Matt
    Comment by Joe – January 25, 2013 01:15 PM PST REPLY TO THIS POST[/quote]

    TV Gord…I was unable to post again until now! I got my information from PP’s ORIGINAL statement the first week in January. And just yesterday in a TIME magazine article they said, “This time it was for real. Starting this spring, new episodes will be available via iTunes, Hulu and Prospect Park’s website The OnLine Network.”

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