General Hospital: Perkie’s Observations


Sabrina stumbles upon Caleb and the injured officer on the pier.  When she realizes the officer isn’t dead, she tries to stop the bleeding and asks “John” to call 911. However, when she looks up, "John" has disappeared. 
 


Duke declares the pickle relish will save ELQ, just as Tracy has the same revelation with Luke.
 
Michael doesn’t understand how a condiment can save the company.  AJ explains years ago, the relish production saved ELQ.   Michael points out Tracy posses the only remaining jar, so Duke decides they need to find the recipe.  
 
Luke has no clue what Tracy's talking about, until Tracy explains the relish saved the company in the past. She knows it can do so again.  She realizes this is why Edward left her the jar, and needs to find the recipe.  They hear a story on the news about Anna being held hostage by Lucy, and Luke takes off to check on Anna.  
 
Maxie really doesn’t want to have anything to do with Britt’s plan, but Britt continues to blackmail her into it.  Patrick overhears them say Sabrina’s name, and starts to complain to Maxie about Britt. He begins to go into detail, but stops. 
 
Maxie asks Britt if she hurt Emma, but she denies it and swears Sabrina turned Emma and Patrick against her. She wants Maxie to make Sabrina disappear.  Maxie questions exactly what she means, but Britt only wants Sabrina fired.  
 
TJ visits Molly to talk about Rafe.  Rafe hides in the bushes, and listens to them. Molly reminds TJ everyone was ready to turn their back on him, but she gave him a chance. She feels TJ needs to give Rafe the same benefit of the doubt.  TJ says Rafe is blaming John for his mother's murder. Molly is eager to see where the investigation leads.  
 
After TJ leaves, Rafe comes out of the shadows and explains to Molly what happened on the pier. He has nowhere to go, and begs her to hide him. Molly obliges, as Caleb lurks in the shadows. 
 
Anna and Dante discuss the murder case.  He wonders if John was involved, and heads to the hospital to check on the officer.  Anna finds the murder weapon, and the evidence bag it was in. She quickly realizes someone took it out of the evidence room. 
 
Maxie’s ready to do Britt’s bidding, but becomes hesitant when Dante gets to the hospital.  Britt tells her to take care of it, and leaves.  Maxie concludes she has to do this for the sake of the baby.  
 
Dante tries to get answers from the officer, as Sabrina and Patrick work on him.  Unfortunately, the officer dies.  Dante questions Sabrina, who explains her earlier confrontation with “John”. She also mentions the arrow with blood on it.  Sabrina and Patrick are cleaning up the room, when Sabrina finds an empty vial on the floor. Patrick claims she gave the patient the wrong medication.    
 
Tracy asks Alice about the relish, and then decides to check the kitchen for the recipe.  AJ and Michael arrive looking for the same thing, and find the jar.  Tracy isn’t happy to see them with the jar. 
 
Back at the station, Dante checks the surveillance footage of the evidence room and sees Caleb exit.  John arrives, and wonders what’s been happening. 
 
Luke finds Anna at the crime scene, and asks if she’s okay. He stresses how important she is to him. Anna updates him on the latest crazy vampire happenings in Port Charles. She expresses her worry about John’s possible involvement in everything. 
 
Anna gets a call from Duke, but lets it go to voice mail.  He’s concerned about her, because he just heard about the incident with Lucy.  
 
Anna wonders why she trusts the wrong people, and believes her instincts are off.  She wonders if she’s been wrong about John as well.  Luke reminds her she’s been through a lot since Robin’s death. Anna doesn’t know whom to count on, so Luke says to count on him.  The two kiss, as Laura arrives to witness it all.

 

63 Responses

  1. Profile photo of Perkie
    Perkie

    So, Frisco and Maxie haven’t seen each other in a bazillion years and come face to face and not only do we not have any follow up but it appears to be days later. I call bull on that.

    Why would Laura be on the docks, which have suddenly become the happening place to be?

    I did get a chuckle out of John showing up at the PCPD, all, “Wassup?”

    How would Rafe know where molly lives?

    Must be some cold going around the set. First TG sounded all hoarse and today both Molly and Britt sounded like they were fighting a cold.

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    soapbaby

    I dunno. I hardly paid attention to the episode for boredom set-in. I missed Todd, Heather or Lucy. One or all three entertain me so! The ELQ story doesn’t engage me although it’s great to see Jane Elliot frontburnered. Duke seems completely out of place at ELQ as does Michael. I wish Ned, Skye and Jax were running the ELQ story with Tracy. AJ and Michael don’t do it for me.

    Just when I think Sabrina could not get any more obnoxious, she proves me wrong again! Her complete lack of composure and professionalism extends to her work as an EMERGENCY ROOM NURSE! I know she’s a student nurse but was a complete mess who also failed to mention that McBain nearly licked the murder weapon! Lol. Argh!

    Maxie showing no loyalty to Lulu can be explained (poorly) by her “safeguarding” The Falconeris’ dream of parenthood but dismissing the fact that Britt hurt Emma? Not buying that. And Maxie is many things but sabotaging a nurse at the risk of patients’ lives is too extreme. The actress who plays Britt looked exhausted in her scenes today.
    Why oh why are we seeing Sabrina and Britt and vampires and NO follow-up to Maxie seeing her deadbeat father after his twenty year absence?!! Come on writers. That’s ridiculous.

    Where’s the set-up for Laura’s epic return? I want her presence in Port Charles to have real impact and not some lame quadrangle with Luke/Anna/Duke. I’ll have to wait and see. It’s hard to be optimistic when Laura’s story may be tied to Luke who is my least favorite character but also played by an actor who works 3 months out of the year!

    I miss the old set for the pier. This new set is so much darker and dangerous, making it the last place people who take small children to feed ducks or pushing baby carriages around. This regime has brightened up GH overall so this one set stands out for feeling out of place.

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    soapbaby

    Another thing: I wasn’t amused by Luke’s line about One Life To Live being off the air. It felt heavy-handed and I normally find the dialogue about such refererences more fun and witty. I would have preferred the line: “Fraternity Row is no longer on the air.” Fraternity Row was the soap opera featured on OLTL and would make sense residents of Port Charles would be familiar.

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    SwanQueen59

    Tracy to AJ: “Step away from the relish!” LOL! :bigsmile:

    Even though it was too brief, I’m still smiling that Laura is back! :party: As for her poking around on the docks, maybe The Haunted Star is anchored near Pier 52.

    As I understand from a friend on another board, RC responded to someone on twitter during the show today who asked him about the dropped cliffhanger with Frisco and Maxie. Apparently he admitted that he should have planned the conversation differently…. Wow. Ya think? :| I’m not one to engage in snark but this was a major blunder. At least he seems to have acknowledged the mistep. But the moment has been lost. I’m praying all of Laura’s “reconnections” have been crafted with a little more thoughtfulness… 0:)

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    TV Gord

    Frank has recently taken to jumping ahead in time and then flashing back to what happened earlier in the day or the day before and we get caught up that way (for instance, Rafe recounting how his mother died; we didn’t see it as it happened, we saw it in flashback, as he was telling Anna the story). That’s probably (or possibly) how we’ll find out what happened between Maxie and Frisco. I doubt it’s going to be ignored. Patience.

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    J Bernard Jones

    I wasn’t amused by Luke’s line about One Life To Live being off the air. It felt heavy-handed and I normally find the dialogue about such refererences more fun and witty. I would have preferred the line: “Fraternity Row is no longer on the air.” Fraternity Row was the soap opera featured on OLTL and would make sense residents of Port Charles would be familiar.

    First, it sounded very much like the line was one of Tony Geary’s famous ad-libs. Jane Elliott seemed genuinely startled and it took a few seconds for her to get to her next line. (It actually could have been “Fraternity Row” and Geary flubbed the line, hence Elliott’s reaction.)

    Second, even if the line were scripted, it is indeed possible that in the fictional ABC soap universe, there is (or was) a fictional television show named “One Life to Live.” For example, characters on “Passions” would watch or make references to “Days of Our Lives.” So the “DOOL” in the Passions universe would not actually be the real show, but that universe’s version.

    Either way, I thought it was a hoot.

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    SwanQueen59

    Ah, my dear Gord and J Bernard. Truly trying. :~ However, it seems the patience I have that is so necessary (and comes quite naturally), to the teaching part of my life is being sorely tested in the arena that is GH overall. I won’t get into particulars. ;) And while I may be tempted to fast forward through characters and stories I’m less than invested in, there’s more than enough to keep me interested. Forty nine days till the 50th Anniversary. Not stopping now when it’s this close… 0:)

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    TV Gord

    I’m a fan of delayed gratification. In fact, that’s probably one of my favorite things about soaps. It’s the anticipation. I don’t feel frustration from the soaps. (I reserve that for my visits to the message boards!) ;-)

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    golinogal

    If I have to hear Maxie and Britt have that same conversation one more time I’m gonna go crazy! We get it, Britt is blackmailing Maxie. Now move the f on. I just can’t stand when we hear the same conversation for 3 weeks in a row.

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    Lucy D.

    On Twitter Ron C. said he only had Jack Wagner for a few days and needed to spread the time apart. I’m sure we’ll see a flashback that reveals Maxie’s reaction to Frisco.

    This regime IS SO MUCH BETTER than the last one, that for the most part, there’s nothing to truly complain about (too much Connie & not enough Elizabeth is worthy of complaint however. And really Britt & Sabrina need to go back to jr. high–it’s a stupid story not well told.)

    Love Anna,(could do without Duke or Luke–I’m a Robert & Anna 4-ever gal)and AJ (I didn’t watch in his previous time on the show). Like the Michael/AJ dynamic and even Michael & Starr (at least they’re laughing and having fun).

    I want Maxie to ask Emma what she thinks of Britt. Then what will Maxie do?

    Maybe Scotty will underwrite the Nurse’s Ball????

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    stefanstavros

    Sorry, regarding the missing scene with Frisco and Maxie I call major BS. Before those who always love to be the opposite of anything one posts on here attack my comment, let me state that I’m a big Cartini fan and I love what they’ve done (for the most part) with GH. But we have to call a major flub up when it truly happens.
    I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a glaring continuity error on a soap. Ok, if the scene would be revealed in a flashback, the character of Maxie would have appeared on today’s episode alone somewhere thinking back on what happened and how it affected her. The jolt of this mess up came because we didn’t see ANY reaction from her, as she was engaged in a completely new unrelated scene with a different character.
    Like I said, I’m a supportive fan, but this was BAD. LOL

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    curacaoman

    CarTini have become very, very sloppy. Just because the fans are excited about recent developments, they now think we will accept anything they shove down our throats. WRONG!

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    ANGELWENDY15

    I found the show rather boring. I just think the whole story of Britt using Maxie to get back at Sabrina is so dumb. Can you imagine having a doctor so unprofessional as Britt? It’s way over the top.
    Did anyone watch the GH Valentine Marathon on Sunday on Soapnet? It made me realize what is still missing from GH. I enjoyed the earlier episodes so much more then the later shows. The show just was written so well back, and there was so much romance! Vanessa Marcil was so gorgeous as Brenda and Sonny looked so young back then. They had such HOT HOT chemistry between them. The character of Sonny was so much better written when he first came on. He was a bad boy, but so much more charming and sexy. It’s sad how Guza destroyed the character with all that stupid Mob stuff and Brenda’s last return was awful with that stupid Balken story. I loved Ned and Lois, they were an adorable funny couple, and Shaun and Tiffany and Lucy and Kevin. These couple just had amazing chemistry that is so lacking today. Was it better writing or did the actors just give more of themselves into the roles?!! I just don’t see that quality in any couple on soaps today. No wonder a lot of them go involved in real life back then, Lois and Ned (though they later divorced), and actors like Blair and Max and Patrick and Marty on OLTL who are all still together. You’d watch their love scenes and they were on fire. Mac and Ned were so handsome back then -WoW- no wonder they aged so well. It was nice seeing Edward and Lila and the earlier Luke and Laura and a young Jonathan Jackson. GH is so much better with Cartini then Guza but it still needs improvement. Get rid of Britt the bitch and mousy Sabrina and give Patrick a real woman. May-be Liz, they both have kids in common.I do see chemistry with Todd and Carly, and both actors seem to really like each other and like working together. But all the other couples currently on just don’t have that spark that Luke and Laura, Ned and Lois and Brenda and Sonny had. I’m not sure now that Luke would be right for Laura, since he’s in love with Anna. And I would like to see Laura stand on her own for awhile and be stronger.
    Curious to see where this Caleb story is leading. I think it was done to explain John’s exit. He’ll probably leave for awhile to track down Caleb. I wonder now with Rafe staying at Molly’s house that Caleb will see Sam (Olivia to him). They had great chemistry on Port Charles but so far John and Sam have been dull. Common GH, bring on the romance, the love in the afternoon that GH once was years ago!!!!

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    pjc722

    CAN WE FINALLY START CALLING OUT THIS NEW REGIME ON NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO CONTINUITY or JUST COMING UP WITH LAME STORIES?!

    First, as many have mentioned, Ron dropped the ball with the return of Frisco and not following it up with Maxie’s conversation with him. Why bother doing a cliffhanger with her seeing him NOT to follow it up with the conversation?!! It was not for dramatic pause but out of a selfish belief that fans wouldn’t care. Maxie has a host of reasons to hate both her parents for life and to write them off. But Felicia came back, albeit super late, and they showed (under the previous regime) the conversation and fight and forgiveness between the two. The story here for RC is not Frisco making up with his abandoned daughter but to see if he can get capital from the FRISCO & FELICIA super couple dynamic from the show’s past leading up to the 50th anniversary.

    Second, Maxie has to be the MOST callous woman alive. I’m sorry but some may disagree but she is. Selflessly, she decides to carry Lulu and Dante’s child. She becomes pregnant but miscarries their baby. She has ‘grief sex’ … a soap staple these days across ALL soaps (so not tied to reality)… and POOF she’s pregnant again and has opted to keep it a secret. BUT it’s not only her baby she is opting to give up to Lulu and Dante (which would be commendable) but Spinelli’s. Spinelli has been a rock to her for years throughout all of her issues from Matt, Georgie’s death, working for Kate, Felicia’s return, and even left him at the altar. I am sorry but the callous part comes with her HAVING no desire to allow Spinelli the opportunity to decide on HIS CHILD too. The MOST CALLOUS woman comes in because she has denied Lulu and Dante the chance to grieve the loss of their child.

    Sure, Maxie is selfish but this story to me is just poorly written, delivered and extremely RIDICULOUS to me.

    Third, PICKLE RELISH will save ELQ? Sure, I will buy that it saved the company before BUT why is it not still on the market? Why if it saved the company before is the recipe not at ELQ or at the manufacturer? How can something that will take months to produce, bottle and distribute going to save a company that has ‘supposedly no money’? It’s just one more story on this show that is just too dumb and farcical for me to follow or understand.

    Fourth, OK, RC has opted that vampires DO exist in Port Charles even though the show PORT CHARLES was a ratings disaster and canceled after only 1/10 of the years GH has been on the air. AND it was this type of story that got it canceled.

    Fifth, the Britt story is just dumb. She is a successful doctor trying to take out a nursing student?! Honestly??!!! Could we get some depth in this story of why Britt wants Patrick before we get into the diabolical?!! And please don’t tell me to wait for the pay-off. I can see Britt being killed accidentally and Sabrina going on trial for her murder. Its obvious this story is being told as it’s being written without any true beginning, middle or end to it.

    Sixth, I haven’t mentioned Connie, Heather, Johnny, or Anna’s absolute stupidity under this regime because I have mentioned it way too much to no avail previously.

    RC did the same thing on OLTL where his stories were told over and over again but they just didn’t ring true all the time. And although popular, it was canceled because ratings were low. I think that if they want the ratings to jump they need to tell more compelling story and not so many farcical and humorous plots. It shouldn’t take a year to see viewers return especially with DVR, online, OnDemand and all other ways to grab this show to view it.

    That’s my take. What’s yours.

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    pjc722

    Oh yeah, forgot about that… So happy to see Genie Francis back on daytime after the horrible and wasted run on Y&R. An extremely talented actress who deserves the star treatment and the story to go along with it.

    Fingers crossed.

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    SZima

    [quote=pjc722]CAN WE FINALLY START CALLING OUT THIS NEW REGIME ON NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO CONTINUITY or JUST COMING UP WITH LAME STORIES?![/quote]
    [[[Etc, etc, etc…please read comment #16 in it’s entirety.]]]
    [quote=pjc722]RC did the same thing on OLTL where his stories were told over and over again but they just didn’t ring true all the time. And although popular, it was canceled because ratings were low. I think that if they want the ratings to jump they need to tell more compelling story and not so many farcical and humorous plots. It shouldn’t take a year to see viewers return especially with DVR, online, OnDemand and all other ways to grab this show to view it.[/quote]

    pjc722, I couldn’t agree with you more…for the most part ;)

    RC was the reason I finally quit watching OLTL over a year before it went off the air. The crap they are giving us now on GH will probably make me quit watching after the anniversary show airs…unless they end this nonsense of dropped storylines, writing characters uncharacteristically, vampires, doctors & nurses acting worse than mean girls in high school, etc, etc, etc.

    CarTini have done much to improve the show, but they are sliding down the slippery slope into the absurd. Once the excitement of the returning veterans has passed and most of them are gone, what will we be left with? A bunch of ruined characters that no one cares about any more?

    SAD :cry:

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    Ravennite613

    [quote=pjc722]Fourth, OK, RC has opted that vampires DO exist in Port Charles even though the show PORT CHARLES was a ratings disaster and canceled after only 1/10 of the years GH has been on the air. AND it was this type of story that got it canceled.
    That’s my take. What’s yours.[/quote]

    I will just comment on your fourth point because I have not seen a toothy vampire in sight. I have one woman screaming vampires and that is it. Allison never mentioned vamps. People are assuming that Caleb is a vampire and not some crazy person who just believes he is a vampire. Both people were killed with a arrow not two spiky teeth.

    I for one do not care if Maxie ever forgives Frisco or talks to him..he was a sperm donor and Mac was and will always be her Dad to me and anything that shi!ts on that history will piss me off.

    I see the bus that ran over Johnny has effectively moved on to Maxie..watch out girl

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    nysam

    @PJC 722….Once again you are spot on in your critique!! Nice write up.

    Ron’s stories are plot driven and not character driven. It has been said numerous times that character driven stories are what successful soaps are about.

    As I have said before other than Anna all the returns have been bungled. The show gets press for the returns but there is NO story for Duke, AJ, Lucy, Frisco and I’m sure there will not be story for Laura.

    In what world would Maxie think destroying a nurse’s career, putting a patient’s life in jeopardy, not doing right by Emma would have less repercussions than simply telling Lulu the truth? Bad writing!

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    TV Gord

    There seem to be two types of soap fans. There are those of us who enjoy the show for what it is, and are happy. Then, there are those of you who take it uber-seriously, wring your hands over everything you don’t like, and are miserable. I know why I’m in the first group, and I can’t imagine why anyone would want to be in the other.

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    soapfan616

    [quote=SwanQueen59]Ah, my dear Gord and J Bernard. Truly trying. :~ However, it seems the patience I have that is so necessary (and comes quite naturally), to the teaching part of my life is being sorely tested in the arena that is GH overall. I won’t get into particulars. ;) And while I may be tempted to fast forward through characters and stories I’m less than invested in, there’s more than enough to keep me interested. Forty nine days till the 50th Anniversary. Not stopping now when it’s this close… 0:)[/quote]

    ****

    Swan, I don’t think your questioning of the pacing is off base. In fact, I agree with you. Of course as soap fans we all love delayed gratification. We all love to be made to wait up until the point where it feels manipulative. We also like a narrative that flows and makes sense regardless of how long we need to wait for a resolution. Obviously fans and worshippers of this regime’s particular style and pacing may find this all well and good. And to each her own. But like you, this fan is left with a feeling of: what were they thinking? But on a show with plastic masks and “maybe” vampire stories and rehashed and regressed plots from 30 years ago, I won’t quibble too much with the Frisco sweeps stunt. After all, we got used to vet stunts with Guza. Perhaps I’m immune.

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    soapfan616

    [quote=TV Gord]There seem to be two types of soap fans. There are those of us who enjoy the show for what it is, and are happy. Then, there are those of you who take it uber-seriously, wring your hands over everything you don’t like, and are miserable. I know why I’m in the first group, and I can’t imagine why anyone would want to be in the other.[/quote]
    ****
    Yes, TV Gord, everyone in the world who doesn’t think and feel like you must be miserable.

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    GHvetfan

    Enjoy the show for what it is? What is it?

    I would love to enjoy the show because it is entertaining but it is plot driven and not all that entertaining. I know what it has been. I would love it to just be good. They have incredibly talented actors who have proven that they can deliver. They have a strong history of good story. They have fab characters with rich history. They just do NOT have writers that know how to take advantage of all that. I am sorry but I cannot just accept “what it is” when I know what it could be. Viewers who have been watching for decades deserve more, expect more, and know that it can be more.

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    soapfan616

    [quote=GHvetfan]Enjoy the show for what it is? What is it?

    I would love to enjoy the show because it is entertaining but it is plot driven and not all that entertaining. I know what it has been. I would love it to just be good. They have incredibly talented actors who have proven that they can deliver. They have a strong history of good story. They have fab characters with rich history. They just do NOT have writers that know how to take advantage of all that. I am sorry but I cannot just accept “what it is” when I know what it could be. Viewers who have been watching for decades deserve more, expect more, and know that it can be more.[/quote]

    ***

    Well said! I’m not sure why people believe it’s a good argument for a soap when they are essentially telling fans they need to shut off the reasoning part of their brains to enjoy a show. I say keep thinking and keep demanding a soap that dares to be something more than post-camp ludicrous. I can take ludicrous for a 90 minutes movie. I might even be able to take it in a once per week show. But five days per week of one ludicrous plot after another leaves me feeling as stupid as the plots I’m watching. Thrilled this kind of soap has fans. But where’s the show for the rest of us?

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    curacaoman

    [quote=TV Gord]There seem to be two types of soap fans. There are those of us who enjoy the show for what it is, and are happy. Then, there are those of you who take it uber-seriously, wring your hands over everything you don’t like, and are miserable. I know why I’m in the first group, and I can’t imagine why anyone would want to be in the other.[/quote]

    Because people in the first group are the one who never stopped watching GH over the years. In order for the show to survive we need people in the second group to start watching again. Nobody takes soaps for reality, but we don’t expect them to be ridiculous either. And GH is quickly, very quickly becoming ridiculous.

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    soapfan616

    [quote=curacaoman][quote=TV Gord]There seem to be two types of soap fans. There are those of us who enjoy the show for what it is, and are happy. Then, there are those of you who take it uber-seriously, wring your hands over everything you don’t like, and are miserable. I know why I’m in the first group, and I can’t imagine why anyone would want to be in the other.[/quote]

    Because people in the first group are the one who never stopped watching GH over the years. In order for the show to survive we need people in the second group to start watching again. Nobody takes soaps for reality, but we don’t expect them to be ridiculous either. And GH is quickly, very quickly becoming ridiculous.[/quote]

    *****
    Well said. It seems this regime knew that the Sonny/Carly/Jason show wasn’t going to cut it. And KUDOS to them for changing that. AND it seems this regime is smart enough to know (well it took them a while) that GH fans prefer vets to crossovers and, this “vampire nod” notwithstanding, they realize using GH’s history is more important than rehashing a cancelled show’s history. BUT where they haven’t gotten it YET is that they don’t realize the serious limitations and draw for the kind of ludicrous stories GH is telling. It’s not 1982 and these writers don’t have a red hot Luke and Laura to sell a silly story with. They can’t do those cheesy plots and expect them to resonate with anyone outside of the diehard fans who literally would be pleased by ANYTHING on their screens. Soaps can be so much more than this and even in brief spurts, this regime has shown they can be more than this. But as a “vampire nod” to a cancelled show bleeds into more soap stupidity, I don’t have to think hard as to why soaps have trouble attracting new viewers.

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    stefanstavros

    I repeat, there are a few posters on here that without fail, love to always disagree with other valid and justified opinions. It gets really old and predictable. I’m a very tolerant and easy-going person in my private life and as a soap viewer. But there are some blunders that are so jolting that they must be called out. And part of the magic of loving soaps is the investment that we put into certain characters who we have watched over 20/30 years. When a certain character is brought back or finally confronts an person or an issue that changed him/her at a core level, we expect it to be handled carefully and written well. As many have stated, the Maxie/Frisco issue is MAJOR, and should’ve been followed up either the next day or at least Monday. Another problem I have is how the regime is handling Duke. Duke and Anna were a HUGE supercouple and a big part of GH’s heyday in the late 80s. Now we are supposed to believe that just because Anna was duped by Faison in a Duke mask that she can’t even be around him hardly at all? Anna was CRAZY in love with this man! It just doesn’t do justice to an iconic character like Duke that now he’s just shuffled into ELQ.

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    soapfan616

    [quote=TV Gord]I don’t see it as being ridiculous. I see it as being fun.[/quote]
    ****

    Well like you said, the people who don’t see it that way are miserable. Fun? I guess since I’m miserable I wouldn’t know fun.

    Oh wait, I do know soap fun on GH: Lucy Coe’s red wedding dress, the Spencer dog knocking up the Quartermaine dog, Lucy’s duck, Mac and Kevin dressing up like women, Lucy stripping at the Nurses Ball, Lois’ manic yet heightened Brooklynese at any Q family gather, etc.

    That list could go on and on.

    YET instead of that sort of fun or even daring to top that sort of fun, the kind of fun we get is Lucy the vampire hunter added to the growing list of unstable women in Port Charles who need psychiatric hospitalization, plastic masks, laughable portraits of mental illness, soaps comas, soap returns from the dead, cartoon villains, baby switches, rape babies and just about every other soap cliche in the book.

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    TV Gord

    [quote=stefanstavros]I repeat, there are a few posters on here that without fail, love to always disagree with other valid and justified opinions. It gets really old and predictable.[/quote]

    I don’t think anyone said your opinions aren’t valid or justified. Surely, we can have a difference of opinion without you developing a persecution complex, right? (I love the implication that some of us are disagreeing with you just for the sake of disagreeing with you, as though they aren’t our actual opinions.)

    My apologies for my comments being “old and predictable”, unlike the constant slamming of the show on the same points day in and day out. Those are constantly fresh and fun to read. ;-)

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    DonnyA2001

    I thought it was a good episode, but things are certainly being strectched to the limit, aren’t they?

    –Loved Tracy/AJ/ELQ battle. It’s good times and I am enjoying every second of it.
    –Loving the McBain/Caleb mystery cause I have no idea what is going to happen. It’s unpredictable and that is a rarity on soaps these days. (Still pretty miffed about Allison)
    –Really like Rafe and am glad there is seemingly going to be this TJ/Molly/Rafe triangle.

    –Britt got on my nerves quite a bit today. I like the whole seductress/scheamer thing she’s got going on, but she repeated herself in EVERY SINGLE SCENE. Okay, we get it…you’re gonna call Lulu and Dante if Maxie doesnt do what you want. No need to beat us over the head with it. Now as a major OLTL fan, I will say the worst thing about the show was the “strech it out” dialogue. It seems pretty lazy in the writing and becomes a plot driven storyline as opposed to character driven. This is been a huge problem for Carlivati and it drives me nuts. Britt looked like a complete immature fool. She’s slowly turning into the Stacey Morasco of this show. This worries me about the future of this story and other new stories being brought to the canvas. As for Britt using Maxie to destroy Sabrina, I think it’s interesting and extremely sociopathic. Maybe Britt and Todd should get together?
    I also wish that soaps would take a different road and surprise us every now and then….how refreshing would it have been if Maxie had just said, “no…I have to tell Lulu and Dante the truth” The Britt would have been stuck and probably would have been in trouble with her job and Lulu/Dante/Maxie would have to deal with their problems instead of lying about them. Sometimes, I LONG for sensibility on soaps. Ah well.
    –Poor Sabrina. She doesn’t deserve what Britch is doing to her.
    –Laura looks great. Can’t wait to hear her talk.
    –Not sure what to make of Luke’s “One Life to Live” comment….I think it was meant to be a dig at the studio for canceling the show, but it came off a little harsh, almost like they were digging in at this whole “Prospect Park” situation. I don’t know, maybe I’m just reading into it.

    Today was the very first episode I got a little nervous about Carlivati/Valentini….the dialogue between Maxie and Britt was atrocious and repitive, which is the exact problem (when I had any problems) with OLTL. Not looking for filler guys…looking for meatier scenes. It’s been getting a lot of heat, but having a scene between Frisco and Maxie would have been A LOT more entertaining than seeing this filler scene.

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    Ravennite613

    And to think I thought the boards would be boring without JaSam/Liason wars…I find it futile to discuss something that is based on personal opinions.

    If we stick to facts this is what we get

    Cartini have made a more hospital-centric show while still playing into the mob life but not strangling is with it

    Cartini have opened the door for veterans to feel welcomed back to a show they called home

    Cartini have done something to make the viewers turn back in and caused people in the land outside of the soap world to take notice

    Cartini has managed to bring history into play in the last year.

    Cartini & Co are a million times better than Fruza & Co in those last years ever were

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    stefanstavros

    [quote=soapfan616][quote=TV Gord]There seem to be two types of soap fans. There are those of us who enjoy the show for what it is, and are happy. Then, there are those of you who take it uber-seriously, wring your hands over everything you don’t like, and are miserable. I know why I’m in the first group, and I can’t imagine why anyone would want to be in the other.[/quote]
    ****
    Yes, TV Gord, everyone in the world who doesn’t think and feel like you must be miserable.[/quote]

    THIS echoes my sentiment also. And TV Gord how could I have a persecution complex if I hardly ever post on here compared to other names I see all the time.. ;-) I just call ‘em like I see them. As I said before I’m a very positive person in general, but some things must be called out when they are done in such a shoddy fashion. Many of my comments at other times are praising GH and Cartini. And it is my perception that you love to instigate arguments just for the sake of the argument. My “perception”, notice that I said. And I’m sure you won’t be able to resist coming back with your predictable sarcasm in trying to undermine what I’ve said. Just because one knows how to use the tool of sarcasm does not infer superiority, btw. :-)

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    TV Gord

    I usually don’t pay attention to who’s posting, so I wouldn’t know how often you post. Your perception of me is incorrect. I stand behind my opinions, and if they disagree with yours, well, that’s what message boards are all about, right? They’re not for everyone to only express opinions that agree.

    I’m not looking to pick a fight, here. My opinions differ from yours and some others. That’s fine. I’m getting some feedback, however, not for my opinion itself, but for merely having an opposing opinion.

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    soapfan616

    I think I can handle and even perhaps appreciate anyone’s opinion of any show. It’s when posters on here make leaps in judgment about the people behind the opinions that I feel the need to step in. I can totally see why someone who watches GH purely as an escape from reality would enjoy this version of GH. But surely those who love this version of GH can see that those of us who prefer our soaps slightly cerebral and mostly believable could find this version of GH atrocious. That doesn’t mean we are “miserable”. And that doesn’t mean we are the other labels that get thrown at us on other boards or in social media either. It doesn’t mean we need to “bitch less” or “lighten up” or “keep calm” or that we’re “mental”. (It is funny that all the words used to dismiss soap fans with differing opinions are also used to dismiss women with opinions but I won’t go there. OH wait, I did). It just means we care and have differing opinions. In a world where most soap press and bloggers lavish near universal praise on this regime, can’t we handle a little dissent?

    If you love this version of GH, you’ve won. You’re going to get more of the same. And since this version of GH is deemed successful, we’ll likely get more of these types of stories on other shows as well. Allowing us to critique without labeling us doesn’t seem too much to ask in return? Or is it?

    Happy viewing.

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    GHFan777

    As usual Sista Raven you are POINT ON!. I also agree with all your recent posts in the other threads. Keep them coming. The voice of reason is always good to hear.

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    Steph570

    As someone who gave up posting comments on this board for a bit, what irritates me is this constant hall monitor garbage. Certain posters are fixated on auditing everyone’s reactions rather than simply relaying their own opinions. These posters are constantly using silencing tactics and seem to be on such a power trip they rarely bother to even comment on the show itself. I’m glad to be finally seeing a little push back at least, because it is just tiresome as hell and this bullying needs to be called out for what it is. Who wants to read comments filled with nothing but “ZOMG this was the bestest show evah!” Not to mention the constant scolding and lecturing that has become a daily feature on these threads. Talk about boring.

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    J Bernard Jones

    As someone who has been accused of “hating the fans” (LOL), I actually have no problems when “fans” call out a show for what they see as its misstep, whether it be an actual plot, a particular performance or weak actor or even some things that don’t ring what might be considered “true” to a character or the show as a whole. I think every “fan” at one time or another can point to any number of eye-rolling, head-scratching, near stroke-inducing examples of what drives them crazy about a particular series or its particulars.

    However, there is a certain subset of “fans” who are bound and determined to hate anything and everything, or at least some certain things. To wit, there are some people who hate Frank Valentini and Ron Carlivati with the heat of a thousand suns; they will never be able to do anything right, they will never produce a good story or do right by certain characters or give certain actors the kind of screentime they deserve. There are some “fans” who lose their minds over 4 out of 5 new characters or actors introduced, whom they will always hate and/or unfavorably compare to the actor they may have replaced who they weren’t all that fond of before they were left or fired or are “taking up screentime from the vets.” They bitch and moan about GH’s lack of “realism” or “believability” despite its long, legendary history of telling some of the most outrageous stories in daytime history, many of which have been recounted to deaf ears. That subset of “fans” represent — to borrow a recently used phrase — teeth grinders, constantly mad, constantly bitching if not about everything, then at least some of the same things over and over and over again. If there is something they like it is almost as if Frank & Ron have nothing to do with it. If it is something they hate, then Frank & Ron are entirely to blame. The past is always being re-litigated and held up as an example of “when soaps were good,” despite some of the awful stories, awful actors and awful characters that even the best and brightest of soap execs & writers produced. They want GH to be “good” on their terms alone and that is the way it is going to be forever.

    I think that is what frustrates/amuses TV Gord, myself and maybe a few others: in these unrelenting complaints there is little balance. There can never be a legitimate differing point of view for some of these folks or — gulp! — they may be wrong on some things. In the current case of GH, less than two years ago the only talk both inside and outside the soap industry was about inevitable, foregone cancelation. It was a done deal as far as just about anyone and everyone was concerned and the only question was whether or not ABC would pull the plug before or immediately after the show’s 50th anniversary. Valentini & Carlivati had taken over the soap opera equivalent of the Titanic, which already had hit a nearly unwatchable Garin Wolf-sized iceberg and was taking on water and sinking fast.

    In the modern era, Valentini & Carlivati have pulled off an amazing Gloria Monty 2.0: they have rescued GH from almost certain cancelation with the added pressure of smaller budgets, shrinking aggregate audiences and a network whose support has only just started to turn around. They have brought back more veteran actors and characters than you can shake a stick at or that any fan thought was even possible (and, at least in my personal estimation, is starting to border on overkill). They have de-emphasized the mob element of the show to the point where it appears neither Sonny nor Carly even have sets to call “home” anymore. The Quartermaines are back in full force, utilizing the extensive history of that family (including its forgotten corners, like Pickle-Lila) to drive story. They have incorporated not one but two former soaps (OLTL & now Port Charles). Today, not only is GH on some fairly firm ground, it is a lighter, more enjoyable, more nimble, more modern soap whose ratings increase has arguably helped the entire daytime soap industry and may have provided a spark for the revivals of AMC and OLTL. And what are we arguing about?

    The definition of a “nod.”

    Has every single story arc worked? Has every new actor or character clicked? Has every production or storytelling choice been as successful as they might have seemed on paper? No. They. Never. Will. Those are things for us to more or less disagree or even be passionate about, but the level of ongoing white knuckled, teeth grinding anger about some of this stuff is, well, odd. It’s not new, but still odd.

    There is a reason why I put the word “fans” – in this context — in quotes: there are quite a few viewers who believe their status as fans are inviolate and, if they hate something, they are going to hate it regardless of any other consideration. They want their soap, the version (or versions) they fell in love with once upon a time without regard to the fact that “their” soap is also a soap to more viewers than themselves alone. It was said earlier that there are a lot of fans who have been watching soaps for 20/30 years, with the implication — forgive me if I’m putting words in someone’s mouth—  that soaps were “better” back then and/or that the difference between good & bad soap can be divined along that temporal axis. Truth be told, there are some of us who have been watching soaps for FORTY PLUS YEARS when there were more soap operas than you could shake a stick at (and with quadruple the ratings!) and, arguably, soaps were “better,” more “realistic,” more “believable” in the late 60’s and 70’s than they are now. There are those of us who are used to actual long term storylines playing out over 6-9-12 months and sometimes much longer, rather than getting upset that a particular story beat wasn’t played out from one episode to the next or bitching that a particular plot has been playing for 2 weeks and its time to wrap it up. There are some of us who recall when the pace of one conversation between two characters could take up to two days (and on The Young and the Restless two weeks)! Or a new character or a recast didn’t have to prove themselves within the first 10 seconds of showing up on screen before getting a thumbs up or a thumbs down but instead were allowed some time to grow (or not).

    Those of us who’ve been watching and loving soaps for 30-40 years or longer may be in the minority of viewers, but the loudest and most insistent of fans on the internet are not necessarily speaking for the majority, either. It is possible to try to look at some of these things with some balance and, yes, patience. For example, when Edward left Tracy that jar of Pickle-Lila in his will, there was an immediate outcry among quite a few here that it was “stupid,” “out of character,” and another example of Carvilati’s sloppy storytelling for the sake of a good laugh. There were some, though, who remembered the history behind that little relish and thought that it would come into play one way or another; just be patient. Now that is has, it is being torn a part by some…and this part of the arc isn’t 2-3 episodes old yet. (I mean, seriously, knowing Edward, does anyone think keeping the recipe in a vault or safe somewhere would be THAT simple for Tracy — or anyone else — to find?)

    I do not think GH is perfect. Unlike many others, I love Connie (and Kelly Sullivan), but I’m hoping for a recast of Kristina sooner rather than later. I’m on the record as loving the incorporation of “Port Charles” into the GH framework, but I’m not so hot on where Duke is fitting into ELQ (not as a function of his romance with Anna, but because it really seems odd). I laugh (with genuine amusement) at some of the constant shuffling & shrinkage of GH’s sets. As I stated, I think Valentini & Carlivati are going a touch overboard with the sheer number of these returns; as someone said to me a couple of weeks ago after another return was announced, “It’s starting to feel like a high school reunion you can’t escape.”

    Nonetheless, despite my quibbles, none of them take away from the remarkable achievements of Valentini and Carlivati for not simply saving General Hospital, but making it a destination where there are people who just as passionately love it as there are some for whom no right can be done. I wasn’t a Bob Guza or Jill Farren Phelps hater, but I can say with confidence I prefer everything that is going on screen right now especially when compared to the dark days of Garin Wolf.

    Your mileage may vary.

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    J Bernard Jones

    Steph570 wrote

    what irritates me is this constant hall monitor garbage. Certain posters are fixated on auditing everyone’s reactions rather than simply relaying their own opinions. These posters are constantly using silencing tactics and seem to be on such a power trip they rarely bother to even comment on the show itself. I’m glad to be finally seeing a little push back at least, because it is just tiresome as hell and this bullying needs to be called out for what it is.

    You think what has gone on HERE is bullying?
    Have you seen the rest of the internet? LOL

    Nobody is “bullying” anyone. LOL

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    soapbaby

    Cheers Steph570. You named it as what it is: bullying. I think there is more than enough to comment on the show without bullying other posters for differing opinions. The primary bullies are SO reactionary that they seldom (if ever) comment on what is happening onscreen! Those of us who posit an opinion are considered “complainers” unless it’s an opinion that showers the current GH with praise. I’ve watched soaps for a long time and while I appreciate that Frank Valentini has worked to preserve OLTL and now GH, Ron Carvialti’s long-term story has never been that good IMO. While RC’s reign is certainly better than Garin Wolf’s time at GH, do we really want to make that comparison? I think RC could use more a lot more balance in his storytelling and an attention to sentiment, social issues and romance (which I think applies to all soaps.)

    Again, I encourage that we focus on the content of the show and not spend our time belittling opinions we do not agree with.

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    TV Gord

    On a more serious–no, I mean a less ridiculous–note…

    While it’s true that I don’t comment as much on the storylines as some others do, it’s because I am enjoying the show these days (here in my remedial class). It’s when I come here and read the diatribes against a show that I’ve just enjoyed watching that I feel I want to comment. So I’m more reactionary than actually instigating discussion. Nevertheless, that doesn’t make my opinion any less (or MORE) valid than any of yours.

    I really don’t get why some of you feel attacked when I disagree. You fire back at me with comments about how I always have to be right. Well, YOUR opinion is what I’m responding to. I’m not firing back at you with, ‘oh well, YOU ALWAYS have to be right’, even though I probably could (but wouldn’t). I mean, I’m stating my opinion the same way all of you are. You really shouldn’t be so thin-skinned if you’re going to post your opinions. It’s a message board. Not everyone is going to agree with you.

    Finally, and again, I am fine with anyone who disagrees with me. I love the back and forth…but when you come back with comments about how I’m some kind of bully because I disagree with you, that’s not playing fair.

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    TV Gord

    Bullying, eh? Well, I’m glad to read this, because that means there are some of you who have no idea what real bullying is, and I’m glad you’ve never had to go through it.

    (A difference of opinion is bullying. Wow.)

    Well, if you want to go down that road, I feel bullied, too. All of us who are enjoying GH should feel bullied, because there have been a couple of allusions to us having to turn off part of our brain, not being cerebral enough and I guess the implication is that we must be imbeciles for enjoying GH these days. My feelings are hurt, so that must mean I’ve been bullied. :-(

    (Thanks J Bernard and Ravennite for your thoughtful posts. I agree with both of you–and a few others–so you must not be bullies, because you don’t make me feel bad about myself.)

    :-(

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    stefanstavros

    [quote=Steph570]As someone who gave up posting comments on this board for a bit, what irritates me is this constant hall monitor garbage. Certain posters are fixated on auditing everyone’s reactions rather than simply relaying their own opinions. These posters are constantly using silencing tactics and seem to be on such a power trip they rarely bother to even comment on the show itself. I’m glad to be finally seeing a little push back at least, because it is just tiresome as hell and this bullying needs to be called out for what it is. Who wants to read comments filled with nothing but “ZOMG this was the bestest show evah!” Not to mention the constant scolding and lecturing that has become a daily feature on these threads. Talk about boring.[/quote]

    Thank you Steph570…you express a very valid point. The couple posters who are guilty of doing this speak with an undertone of superiority and condescension, which has no place on a message board. Voicing differing opinions is wonderful, but arguing for the sake of arguing or to try to show off one’s armchair expository skills is lame.

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    TV Gord

    Well, there’s no point in trying to find any common ground when you are throwing around labels like ‘superiority’ and ‘condescension’. The name calling goes both ways, I guess, so there are no clean hands here.

    For the record, I don’t think I express myself with such undertones, but if you’re taking them that way, maybe it’s about your inferiority complex. I guess I made the mistake of thinking people with strong opinions (yes, I’m looking at all of you who are claiming to be bullied!) can stand up for themselves. If you’re going to curl up in the fetal position and claim inferiority, I guess some of us just can’t win with some of you.

    Oops, I guess that’s me being condescending again. Not that you bring it on yourselves or anything.

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    stefanstavros

    I would call what I’ve done today far from curling up into a fetal position. I just got tired of the posters who pick apart others’ statements for the sake of arguing and decided to speak up about it. I don’t see anything passive about that. Earlier in the day after my first post about the whole Maxie/Frisco flub, you specifically demonstrated a few of the things I’ve mentioned. You said, “No continuity error.” This is an example of you acting like the definitive “right answer” and completely discounting the obvious. YES, there was a glaring continuity error, in that the scene in which Maxie enters the Floating Rib and sees Frisco was never followed up. Even though she saw him calling her and said, “not now Dad”, there was still a major gap in continuity. There was a very important MISSING scene in which Maxie confronts her MIA Dad. In your same response you ended it with the word “Patience.” This is an example of condescension.
    This is the last post I’m going to make about this issue, as I actually don’t enjoy the “back and forth” as you said you do. I don’t have an inferiority complex, but rather a rational, discerning human’s observational skills. I felt it was time to speak up about attitudes that I don’t think bring anything positive to the message boards.

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    J Bernard Jones

    stefanstavros wrote:

    The couple posters who are guilty of doing this speak with an undertone of superiority and condescension, which has no place on a message board.

    You say potato, I say pah-tah-toe. Let’s call the whole thing off.

    …. arguing for the sake of arguing or to try to show off one’s armchair expository skills is lame.

    Deskchair expository skills in my case. ;)

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    J Bernard Jones

    stefanstavros wrote (re: Gord):

    YES, there was a glaring continuity error, in that the scene in which Maxie enters the Floating Rib and sees Frisco was never followed up. Even though she saw him calling her and said, “not now Dad”, there was still a major gap in continuity. There was a very important MISSING scene in which Maxie confronts her MIA Dad. In your same response you ended it with the word “Patience.”

    You left out this whole part of the response:

    Frank has recently taken to jumping ahead in time and then flashing back to what happened earlier in the day or the day before and we get caught up that way (for instance, Rafe recounting how his mother died; we didn’t see it as it happened, we saw it in flashback, as he was telling Anna the story). That’s probably (or possibly) how we’ll find out what happened between Maxie and Frisco.

    This is, first of all, true. Second, just because we didn’t immediately see a follow-up scene with Maxie & Frisco in “real time” does not mean there was a continuity error. Continuity is not defined by linear storytelling or linear narrative. In this era of time jumping storytelling in television and movies, such techniques (and the reasons for it) are nothing new, but do not count as continuity errors.

    As was pointed out earlier, reportedly Jack Wagner was only on set for a couple of days and filmed several episodes worth of scenes, much like when Anders Hove and James Franco shot their scenes, which were then doled out over several weeks. Spreading out those scenes over time “extends” Wagner’s presence/airtime on the show. While I understand that fan sentiment was/is extremely high to see a Frisco & Maxie reunion, just because we didn’t see it immediately doesn’t mean that it wasn’t filmed or that we won’t see it at all.

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    Ravennite613

    Sorry I take a huge offense to the use of the word “bullying” – to throw around a word that strong to relay something so trivial as difference of opinions is sad

    I made a comment against a poster recently and she proceeded to write me a private message belittling what I believe in. Do I think she was bullying me, no because it was her opinion and like a$$holes we all have them.

    We can agree to disagree and we also have to expect that if we write something on a message board there may be someone who does not share that opinion and who believe it or not will speak their mind.

    I don’t always agree with everyone so I make my comments and move on but it becomes disheartening when people think this is bullying…when did we become such a sensitive society

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    GHvetfan

    Part of the reason I do not want this vampire “silliness” is because I would prefer less of McPain and Sham. I certainly do NOT want them in double doses. Part of the reason I stopped watching Port Charles was because of Caleb and Livvie’s eating of the show with the “silliness”. I hate the “pose” style of acting Michael Easton and Kelly Monaco favor. Why would I want them in dual roles? I really could care less if I have actually seen a vampire. I am seeing Caleb and his version I of swagger. I am seeing Sam saddling up a new couch partner.

    Are there parts of the show that I like? Yup!! Do I want to be labeled a complainer because I am not raising the pom poms for the whole show? Nope!!

    I looked forward to seeing Maxie come face to face with Frisco and I do feel gipped by the writers. Will they show her reaction in a flashback? . I think not. I hope I am wrong. I really do but these writers seem like they are trying to throw everything they can at the viewer without developing anything. I mean Robert saw Robin and barely got a chance to be happy about it before he was in a coma.

    I love all of the returning vets but if Jack Wagner cannot commit to more than an afternoon, give his screentime to Anna or Laura. I absolutely hated every dark day of stupid frickin Franco and his random scenes all by himself. How many scenes was he actually shown with another GH character? 1 or 2, tops! That is not a model to use for success. I want Maxie to throw Georgie’s entire life that Frisco missed in his face. I want him to beg her forgiveness. I do not want him to strut around and diminish Mac. That isn’t the Frisco I remember. That is the absentee Frisco that Guza crafted.

    I do Not want Laura to be mooning over Luke. I do NOt want her calling Scotty and accepting his offer of a future because she saw him kiss Anna. Am I supposed to believe she has been mooning over Luke all of the time she has been in Paris while he has been married to Tracy and sleeping with Anna and Red? Why do writers feel women want to watch other women as weak and needy. If Scott has been there for her the way Mac has been in Felicia, Maxie, and Georgie’s corner, why would Felicia and Laura turn to Luke and Frisco?

    The fact is that I want what I want when I want it. I do Not in any way shape or form believe that I will get what I want. DC just gives me the forum to express my wants. I would rather not be demeaned and told to suck it up. I know that my wants are sometimes unrealistic. But, I do feel my approach is a hell of a lot more realistic than anyone who thinks they are going to get every poster on this board to agree.

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    Yoryla

    Steph570 – I’m not sure if “bullying” is the right word for it, but I definitely understand what you mean.

    There are some people on this site who just want and LOVE to stir up fights. It doesn’t matter what the subject is, it doesn’t even matter who is right and who is wrong, the main point is that there is enough conversation, and preferably, fighting, surrounding the subject. It is see-through, you can tell apart the people.

    The same goes with the GH vs. YR in-fighting. Some people just LOVE that the lines are drawn and they try to keep up that fight by making unnecessary jabs in places where they KNOW they will cause up something. As so many people have stated before, if you don’t like something/someone, maybe it would wise to stay out of that particular thread. I try to do my best to keep out of YR and BB threads, because I really have virtually nothing good to say about those shows at the moment. I don’t always succeed in it, though. Here’s hoping to be more stronger in the future!

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