Y&R’s Daniel Goddard on Alter Ego Cane: “It Drives Him Crazy The Way Tyler Looks at Lily”





For years, the only thing that seemed to stand in the way of Cane (Daniel Goddard) and Lily's (Christel Khalil) happiness was the Aussie's sketchy, ever-changing backstory on The Young and the Restless. Now a more palpable threat has arisen in the form of gorgeous flirt Tyler Michaelson (Redaric Williams).

In the Feb. 25 issue of Soap Opera Digest, Goddard previews Cane's reaction to Lily once again being caught in close proximity with Ty (They get stranded together during a blizzard!), when she's supposed to be with her husband. Said Goddard:  

"Cane admits that it drives him crazy the way Tyler looks at Lily," Goddard says. "She thinks Cane is overreacting and that the whole thing with Tyler is innocent. She tells Cane that there's nothing to worry about."


I don't know about y'all, but methinks Mrs. Ashby doth protest too much!

91 Responses

  1. Profile photo of soapbaby
    soapbaby

    Well, Lily has no chemistry with either gentleman. Christel Kahlil lacks energy in her every scene and clearly doesn’t put the effort into creating chemistry with Redaric Williams (who is sex on a stick!) Can you imagine how hot Lily and Tyler would be if Davetta Sherwood inhabited Lily?

    Re: Cane and Chelsea, I think the better story would be Chloe designing fashions and reconnecting with Cane, making Lily jealous. They all have history whereas Cane/Chelsea interactions feel forced. Also, Chloe & Kevin are DOA.

  2. Profile photo of SoapArmageddon
    SoapArmageddon

    Maybe, it’s the way Christel has chosen to play it or maybe it’s due to a lack of ability to bring heat to the screen but I don’t get even the slightest hint that Lily is attracted to Tyler.

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    soapbaby

    [quote=SoapArmageddon]I don’t get even the slightest hint that Lily is attracted to Tyler.[/quote]

    ^^ This bears repeating. Lily doesn’t even register that she finds Tyler at least physically attractive. I blame the actress because the storytelling dictates that there should some attraction as the duo have been placed in close proximity on multiple occasions. The way it’s played now, if/when Lily acts on Tyler’s advances it will seem out of nowhere. CK is completely flat in her performances. She registered an easy chemistry with Michael Grazedi and at least tries with Daniel Goddard. With Redaric Williams she is not even making the effort.

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    bishbay

    The only person Khalil has ever had chemistry with was DG. If the producers, for some odd reason, are committed to keeping her on the show and in a romantic pairing, then they should have made Daniel/Lily a long-term couple. As it stands, Lily is a simpering waste of airtime in all of her scenes because she has no plot outside of the men in her life.

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    SoapArmageddon

    harlee490,, I love your positivity. I always have. But I think putting Kevin and Lily together would be as interesting as watching Esther read the Genoa City telephone directory from cover to cover.

    It worked years ago when Kevin was a diseased scumbag and Lily was a virginal young girl but these are two adults that come across as almost asexual now.

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    david46208

    @pferrando: This comes down to having the wrong person in the role of Lily. If you had say, Shannon Kane; it would all fall into place. Tyler is a certain type of Brotha who always comes on to women from the moment he meets them. We know this type in the African American community. So the actor is playing him true to form.

    What Lily should be doing is saying things like:

    “Boy please….”

    or

    “Flattery will get you nowhere”

    and

    “I gotta man!”

    Instead what we get is someone who has zero ability to develop a character and take a story and run with it when it right there in front of your face. And it is not the writing. Because Josh G. is someone you want in your corner when it comes to writing.

    Lily lacks soul or any ump to her. CK brings nothing to the table to make you care about the character either way. And since she is simply on recurring with no contract they need to go ahead and recast. Then on a Friday call out the name of the new actress over intercom they way they did when brought this woman back and axed Davetta Sherwood.

    So to you CK fans you to face the facts. The girl can’t act. And I don’t even find her that pretty. On a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the best) she’s about a 6.

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    NERescuer

    [quote=pferrando]I don’t think this is a believable couple either…(Lily and Tyler). Since he was introduced we’ve been TOLD they’d be together.[/quote]
    They so do not go together. Do the Y&R writers want us to believe that just because Tyler is a man of color that Lily would automatically be his? Abandon her husband and break up her family? Give us more credit than that Y&R please.

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    bnt83

    Canes jealousy is very unappealing. People who are secure in their relationship don’t act like that. I used to like Cane but he is has gotten very annoying lately.

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    hey mon

    Josh G should be giving Lily Multiple Sclerosis, instead of Nikki. Then it would be much more believable. I think Lily’s best year on The Show was when she had cancer. She handled it pretty well and believable.

    Then Josh G could pair Nikki with Tyler, turn Nikki back on to the bottle, and have a Victor-Tyler ‘duke it out’ in the NewmanE Parking Lot.

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    harlee490

    SoapA…you’re right but Greg’s Kevin has been wasted the last few years. I like Greg as an actor but I hate this story for him & Chloe about the money trail. The best scenes lately with Kevin are when he’s been in scene with Fen and being a damn good uncle. Chloe’s best scenes are when she’s with Chelsea…

    Houston we have problem…Maybe it’s time to write out Kevin.

    You know sometimes a writer clicks with characters and sometimes they just don’t know what to do with a character and honestly it seems Josh could be in that boat. ;)

    As for CK…blah. The better scenes with CK was the other day when she was being bossy toward Tyler…I wonder if a cat o’ nine tails and some thigh high boots w\Tyler in the sauna might do the trick ;)

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    pferrando

    David…my issue really isn’t with Lily or the actress that plays her. It’s the way this “story” has been written. Not believable.

    Lily has always been “bland”, I guess, but at least I believe the relationship with Cane.

    And trust me…I know there are a lot of Tylers out there, and again, no issues with the actor. He just isn’t likable becsuse of the way he’s been written since he was introduced.

    He’s “the guy that’s going to break up Lily and Cane”. We get it.

  12. Profile photo of bnt83
    bnt83

    @tedew in the midst of the blizzard of the century the ashby twins have been left with the sitter while their parents get a room at the club to “keep each other warm” smh

  13. Profile photo of pjc722
    pjc722

    Sorry, Harlee490, WHY ON EARTH would lily ever want to become good friends or reconnect with Kevin? Not only did he date her while she was underage, but he gave her chlamydia and torched Gina’s restaurant WITH COLLEEN inside because no one liked him!

    Sure, Kevin is one of my favorite characters (please see I am being positive here) but to have Lily REMOTELY FIND HIM SEXY WOULD BE A TOTAL DISSERVICE TO the credibility of Lily as a character and as a woman.

    Pair Lily with someone else if not Cane or Tyler.

  14. Profile photo of pjc722
    pjc722

    Cane is not jealous of Tyler because he believes Lily likes him… he is more annoyed at Tyler for hitting on/flirting with and absolutely believing that because he winks and lays it on thick that Lily would fall for him! Cane is more angry that the man is putting the move on another man’s woman.

    I don’t read what Cane is putting out as anything more than anger/frustration and annoyance.

    Wish they would just have Cane talk to Devon or have him grab a brew with Billy and open up.

    And to all the Khalil haters, I like the actress. I think she does an amazing job. It’s the writers that are at fault here because they are writing Lily as though she knows what Tyler is trying to deliver but she just ain’t buying it. We’ve already saw Lily tell him at the GCAC that she has a man, she ain’t going for another and for Tyler to move on. That’s when Tyler told her she was basically misreading EVERYTHING.

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    pjc722

    I totally agree, BNT83!!!

    I was wondering who was watching Faith since Summer is at Phyllis’, Sharon’s cavorting with Adam, Nick is worried more about Avery, Noah is somewhere in the storage closet at THE UNDERGROUND, Nikki is confiding in Jack, Victoria is somewhere in her house with Billy and the baby boy, and we all know Victor does not watch any kid!

    Also, they keep playing the DJ saying “the streets are closed and the storm is hitting” on the radio but we have Phyllis rushing over to Jack’s, Lauren staying late at Fenmore’s, Chloe driving over to Chelsea’s (who is watching her kid), Neil is making Tyler and Lily work late on a marketing campaign NOT only on valentine’s day but during a blizzard, Senator Wheeler is out driving around GC and Jack makes his grounds keeper risk his safety just to drive Nikki home DURING THE WORST PART OF THE STORM.

    I am hoping it’s more than just a snow storm and that something dramatic comes out of this “big storm”. I loved that Nikki confided in Jack about MS but I wished the Jill and Josh used this storm to bring people together realistically. It would have been great to see Victoria and Billy arrive on Jack’s doorstep to ride out the storm with their son and put a wrench in Jack’s plans with Phyllis with Nikki being there, too. Or Nick had his son and daughters at his house and they were doing family time (still affording Nick the chance to worry over Avery). Or Katherine and Jill stuck in the mansion with Chloe and Kevin and Ester, as well as Gloria and Jeffrey and the hilarity of that situation.

    And think of the sweet possibilties if Adam got stuck in the Newman elevator with Victor. it would be nice to see father son bonding until the doors opened and they were back to battle form. (Not a fan of seeing Sharon and Adam go down the path of relationship or hook up and just not staying friends.)

    I did love that we saw Mason has a girlfriend! Granted, he’s not the most romantic dude around taking her to a nightclub at dinner time. LOL

    Storm is just hitting, Y&R fans, so here’s hoping!!

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    hey mon

    Shake things up a bit in Genoa City. Where’s Patty when I need her? Anyway…

    I think it would have been really somethin-somethin to have Marcus get stuck in the snowstorm with Valerie/Leslie. Then we could have found out exactly what is going on between those two.

    Funny, I was totally expecting Noah and Adriana to have a ‘snowstorm’ story-line. They get trapped somewhere… and then have a banging good time. The problem with their story-line is that it is all back-story and off-screen. Josh G should race these forward in present time by having them consumate this great ‘love’ they had together in New York City.

    One month it looks like Nick and Avery are headed towards maritally-baking bliss. Now Steve Burton has come on-screen, and ruined whatever ‘magic’ existed between the two. And the forced flash-backs that were stuffed down our throats earlier this week with MacAvery, or is it AveLan, were too contrived. Can I actually say that I feel sorry for Nick Newman? But the ‘gold’ of Avery has always been her relationship with Phyllis. I do not believe one iota that Jessica Collins as Avery is that interesting of a character to exist without constantly playing off of her. And Jess and Steve on the same screen, yawn-bore.

    We’re all thinking it, but it’s never going to even be brought up? How can Chelsea exist in the same family orbit, with her nephew being her biological son, and NEVER have the situation be brought up? NEVER EVER, not even once. She has NO desire to see Little Johnny? Doesn’t keep a photo of him around at all? Doesn’t ask Victoria how he is? Auntie Chelsea never gets a visit?

    I understand we all have to swallow the ‘blue pill’ about Villy. I understand that we have to zombie-like believe that 40-yr old Vicky and 30-yr old Billy are the ultimate couple, but I ain’t buying it. A gold mine of trouble could be just below the surface, and could liven up a pairing that has become ho-hum and boring (the 2 are fast forward material). I understand that it is close to “The Lucy” s/l, but let’s be realistic about Chelsea’s motherly feelings, especially someone who has had a miscarriage.

    Kevin is being wasted. He’s best when he’s a nut job.

  17. Profile photo of harlee490
    harlee490

    I’m indifferent to CK, she’s been there for a decade now and never one of faves but it is what it is, I prefer DS. CK is there so I don’t fret over it and not going anywhere so make the best of it. I just wish CK played her with “some tude coming from Dru”. That what I don’t get.

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    harlee490

    This storm has produced some good stories. Just not quite as good as Jill did with GL’s blackout. There you had complete opposites, rivals, stuck together…but again it’s just started and can still happen.

    GL’s blackout in ’92 was AWESOME and stories it produced in longterm was wonderful. :love:

  19. Profile photo of pjc722
    pjc722

    I totally agree about giving lily some of Dru’s toughness. She was raised by dru for a very long time without goody two shoes boring Neil so you would think the writers would make her a little more direct and tough. More of a go-getter.

    I like Khalil and I don’t think she would have the attitude dru had because that “tude” for dru came from being a run away on the streets. But you would think that she would be a little more direct. Her scene going against what cane wanted in hiring Chelsea was written so saccharin sweet that I wanted Neil to say “lily this is work so cut the crap and answer”

    I just think a little tweaking in the “directness factor” for lily will make her more like momma bear dru until the real deal returns!!

  20. Profile photo of tashikins
    tashikins

    I too am indifferefnt to CK. I think she and Cane like Villy work as stable younger couples. I have no problem with Vill’s age difference–the men always have younger women so Viki, get your cougar on.

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    TraceyAbbot101

    I suspect, that off camera, Chelsea is stealing looks at the baby, just watching. I know it has been brought up.. and I think that she agreed NOT to become involved in the baby’s life once she signed the papers, as she was going to leave Genoa City.

    I am just surprised that a nanny is always babysitting, never Uncle Jack, Cousin Abby, Summer or Kyle; Grandma Nikki, or god forbid, Grandpa Depends.

    They would both need constant diaper changing :)

  22. Profile photo of SoapArmageddon
    SoapArmageddon

    Indifference bordering on passive acceptance is exactly how I would describe my feelings about Christel’s ACTING and about Lily, the CHARACTER.

    I have never been shy or unclear in expressing my feelings on this or any other board so I have no idea if with the use of the word “haters” the rather verbose poster in this thread is mistakenly referring to me as well. :)

  23. Profile photo of harlee490
    harlee490

    [quote=TraceyAbbot101]I suspect, that off camera, Chelsea is stealing looks at the baby, just watching. I know it has been brought up.. and I think that she agreed NOT to become involved in the baby’s life once she signed the papers, as she was going to leave Genoa City. I am just surprised that a nanny is always babysitting, never Uncle Jack, Cousin Abby, Summer or Kyle; Grandma Nikki, or god forbid, Grandpa Depends. They would both need constant diaper changing :)[/quote]

    Abby is going to be stuck with hunky cop Alex….me likes this setup! :)

  24. Profile photo of pjc722
    pjc722

    My biggest complaint with soaps in general is that they make such a huge deal about having characters get pregnant right out of the gate to only dispose of the children once the drama has left.

    Victoria wanted her son Reed so much that when she lost him Billy bought a baby on the black market (totally overpaid for that kid). Then she lost that kid and boom Chelsea was pregnant and decided that the child was best with Victoria and Billy. Sure, they are shown running up to the kid all the time and I think that’s great because until they age the kid to 2 or 3 years old next week, seeing a baby doll in the actors arms is a bit disconcerting.

    But juxtapose that with Victoria’s brother Nick and you get a totally different story. Nick has 3 kids with 2 women, Sharon and Phyllis. Now 2 are adults (teenager and 20 something old) so it’s understandable that we wouldn’t see him with those two but he has a 5 year old with Sharon who was used as a prop between Nick and Sharon for so long and Nick’s main concern over Sharon’s condition over the past two or 3 years has been Faith and her well being. Now, there is a blizzard and she is not with either parent. Christmas Nick spent it with Avery more than he did with his children. Even during Cassie’s anniversary of her death, Nick spent part of the day with Faith and Noah… Summer was MIA… and then both Sharon and Nick were off cavorting somewhere else without Faith.

    Now we have Chloe and Billy. We used to hear about Delia all the time and even see her just as much but now it’s just a passing “my mother is taking care of her” comment from Chloe. Even during this blizzard she and Kevin have Valentine’s day planned for JUST THEMSELVES during a darn blizzard.

    Then, of course, we have Lily and Cane. Part of the story of Tyler liking Lily should be that Lily JUST HAS NO TIME for a flirtation from the likes of Tyler NOT because she has a husband who she loves but that she has a husband a 2 yr old twins at home and a full time career so she has ABSOLUTELY no time to entertain the likes of Tyler’s ego. I’m all for having spice in your life by planning an anniversary romp with your husband at the GCAC but these two spent Christmas dinner with Neil and Devon at a restaurant while their twins were at home with the sitter. now there is a blizzard coming and the twins are at home with the sitter and not their parents!

    Don’t get me going on Jack and his 2 sons. Keemo has not been mentioned since he left for Hong Kong… you would think that Billy would have mentioned him from time to time since he lived there as well. Kyle grew up without his daddy even visiting him which to me was ridiculous.

    Shall we not forget Paul and his two wayward spawn. One turned out to be so boring that she was recast three times and then shipped off to Savanah and the other became a lunatic killer. And Paul has even forgotten about his mother who doted on him like there was no tomrrow for years. A little mention of her from time to time would be great!

    Lauren has proven to be the best mom on this show. Fen was never sent off to boarding school and grew up RAPIDLY in the Baldwin’s condo. Sure, her other son Scottie, grew up in Canada but that was storyline dictated to protect him from Sheila. But Fen has been the constant in hers and Michael’s life which is great even if he should only be 5.

    Oops, before I forget, up until Adam came into the picture full time with Sharon and up until the diagnosis, Sharon was a good mom. Most of her scenes when cassie was alive had cassie in them or walking out of them so she would be a very tight runner up.

    Sorry, Nikki sent her kids both to boarding school to age quickly over their awkward pimple teen stage years.

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    yojoromo4469

    [quote=tedew]Maybe I missed it but why does Lily suddenly have this dislike and fear of Chelsea? Also, where are the dear twins (or are they off getting older)?[/quote]

    I was trying to remember a reason for Lily disliking Chelsea, but I don’t remember anything ever happening between them.

    Also, if my memory serves, Delia and the twins have not been seen, since before Thanksgiving and so they will proably come back as tweens.
    We have seen Faith a couple of times.

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    ChrisGa

    [quote=SoapArmageddon]Indifference bordering on passive acceptance is exactly how I would describe my feelings about Christel’s ACTING and about Lily, the CHARACTER.[/quote]

    Yeah, I’d say that’s about where my feelings, or lack thereof, lie with regards to CK and Lily–she’s alright, and I don’t think CK is horrifically bad, but if they killed her off tomorrow I wouldn’t blink. As such, the Lily/Tyler stuff is the least essential s/l going for me right now(well, next to the latest Kevin/Chloe hot mess)not only because I’m neither here nor there about Lily but also because, again, I just don’t find Tyler appealing as a character on any level(despite his obvious physical attributes).

    As for Cane, the only thing I do find interesting in this whole particular mess is the possibility of a Cane/Chelsea pairing. The two have good chemistry and, unlike CK, MCE is a firecracker of an actress. Of course, if this scenario played out DG would be in the position of having to work harder to hold his own in scenes with MCE because as it stands now he and CK are about even in the acting department while MCE is on a whole other playing field than those two.

  27. Profile photo of DJinATL
    DJinATL

    GL’s blackout was awesome! It launched the Ross/Blake coupling (their sex scene was almost too hot for TV) started Ed/Lillian, which unfortunately was the beginning of the end for Maureen…and showed Roger’s soft side (stuck with Maureen).

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    soapbaby

    GL’s blackout was EVERYTHING.

    Re: CK as Lily, I’ve been pretty indifferent to her in the past but I’m rather annoyed with how little effort she puts into her work these days. She’s distractingly bland now. Lily doesn’t have to overtly flirt with Tyler to generate chemistry, it could be a raised eyebrow here or a look that’s a beat too long there. SOMETHING! Seriously, she can’t muster the strength to play Lily with some energy? I think Daniel Goddard is a poor actor but he is at least trying with the Cane/Chelsea flirtation. CK has no vibrance. And for me it doesn’t have to be an “around the way girl”-vibe just a present, bright, fun woman.

    Off-topic, but I was surprised Carmine kissed Lauren like that in public no less! They are smoking but that felt sudden for me. I love watching the building energy between them play out before someone acted on it. Still, hot as hell!

    Christel Kahlil should watch Tracey E. Bregman play the beats in a woman contemplating adultery with an attractive man! ;-)

  29. Profile photo of EttaKit
    EttaKit

    Christel Kahlil should watch Tracey E. Bregman play the beats in a woman contemplating adultery with an attractive man!

    Except Lily isn’t considering having a fling. That’s all wishful thinking from certain viewers. Yes Tyler would like to get with her but she’s refuted his gestures and now he’s trying a different approach by saying she has been misreading the situation.

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    yojoromo4469

    [quote=pferrando]People always overly-diss CK on here. Not sure why. She’s the original Lily and has always had her moments.

    Kinda like the same thing with Victoria’s hair…[/quote]

    Have always thought Lily and Cane were terrible actors. Cane seemed to shine with Chelsea though. Lily is just dull.

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    Coffee_Junkie

    I don’t really care what Goddard thinks. He has no business still being on this show. He was terminated. The only reason we’re still stuck with him is because his pimply-faced fanbase went ape shit and stormed the studio.

    And don’t even get me started on that freaking TWIT Crystal Khalil. The girl acts like she’s had a lobotomy. Or possibly several.

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    pferrando

    I like them both, but am looking forward to a split. Like it when popular couples are taken apart. Makes for a good soap story. Glad to see Y and R continuing to take risks like this.

    They’ve done it with ALL their couples, so this was a logical move.

    Just too bad they’ve stuck Lily with Tyler.

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    harlee490

    I hope after Lily & Tyler is established it will be better. The setup is shaking but at least it’s not all hearts & candy like with Lane. After awhile it’s boring. Lane fans will hit the wide open skies again but hope CBS & Sony don’t cave. Those pesky Lane devotees will be vocal when that time comes.

    CK had been much better in her acting choices in the beginning, but since with Cane it’s like a walk through….? Maybe that could be some the problems with VR, she pushed her. Part of problem started for fans when LML brought up the Dru\Malcolm hook-up and Lily’s “who’s your daddy” story.

    Bill said in interviews he wished he hadn’t made that choice (even the greats have regret)and said he wouldn’t go their again. Lily was Neil & Dru’s love child. Neil & Dru was so popular and Bill knew this and to think after all the years of Neil & Dru and no love child is a shame.

    If Dru would happen to come back with a young Winters’ child in tow, would be a pleasure for fans…Dru was pregnant at time going over cliff ;) If I remember correctly Dru & Neil was talking about having another baby but stopped suddenly with the story of Devon. I remember Dru was concerned about her age, because I clearly remember scenes Dru talking to Liv about the possibility. ;)

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    hey mon

    I like Dan Goddard. I think he adds something to The Show that it needs — someone whose last name is not Newman or Abbott. Frankly, I am so sick and tired of seeing everyone play off of Victor Newman, and what the #ell ‘Victor Newman’ thinks of their ‘life choices’. Cane has never been affected by Victor Newman directly, and that sits just fine with me.

    Cane has the ability to be both very good and very bad. Now that the decision has been made to get rid of the loon that was Genevieve, maybe Cane can ratchet up some rascally ways again. Too bad Ashley didn’t stick around, and if MAB had played her cards right, there would have been some major ‘desk sex’ last April at Jabot.

    I think it wold be great if Chelsea and Cane had some serious banging going on. That way we could see a Cane vs Adam pairing start to occur, and I believe, that is the way Josh G is going with this. Cane and Chels have sex, Cane thinks the baby is his, but it’s really Adam’s. Get Adam off of the ‘I hate Nick’ train for once, and have his snarky one liners aimed at the Aussie.

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    harlee490

    I’m not a hater of DG. I think what hurt his character was his parentage and backstory kept changing and fans got sick of his Chancellor, no Ashby, he’s dead, no he has a twin, and on and on….

    I think he could be a good leading man personally, he has the charm and the looks, Chelsea might do the trick because I did like what I have saw so far… :)

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    tashikins

    I agree harlee that story hurt Cane–in fact that story hurt the show. I loved Cane with Jill as much as I loved him with Lily. He was her most loving child and the one that brought out her sweet side and maturity. I hated what they did. I liked that the brought back Phillip but they some how could have made Cane less of an ass. As Jill’s son he was sexy, compassionate and caring. That to me was the most foolish story line. How could Cane be Phillip when their ages are so different? I missed alot of this please explain how a man in his 30 s could be a man in his 40s? Was a son ever given away by Mrs C.

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    pjc722

    HARLEE490, I do think it has been a HUGE failure with the show making Lily Malcolm’s son and think since we have already seen with DNA labs in Genoa City over the years that monkeys are performing the tests, that it turns out that fateful DNA test was actually flawed and Lily is Neil and Dru’s kid.

    As for Dru coming back with a kid in tow, I won’t buy that because the woman fell off a cliff and disappeared even after a long and exhaustive 1 DAY search for her (sarcasm). No fetish would survive.

    BUT I DO WANT DRU and Victoria Rowell back!! And NO MORE BABIES!!! It just slows them down in story and soooooooo makes them BORING. (Sorry, love kids but there is a reason why a child can be born on Jan 1 and by Dec 31 of the same year be graduating from high school, because they have a short shelf life on soaps in diapers!!!)

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    pjc722

    I sort of agree with both HARLEE and HEY MON on their points with DG and the character of Cane. His back stories of who he is and where he is from constantly changing made him less trust worthy to me. I still read him as hiding something all the time.

    If he does sleep with Chelsea it will only add to my mistrust, and therefore DISLIKE of this character. I hope it does not happen because I don’t mind Chelsea getting in bed with another man, I just don’t want her to be the reason Lily gets hurt because I like Chelsea.

    I think the show is in need of some truly dramatic story and Cane being killed off would be great! It would open the door for the show to explore Lily and Tyler without destroying the history of Lily and Cane. We, as fans, have seen Cane and Lily fight to be together through so many obstacles and I just can’t see Cane sleeping with Chelsea when he has a family. Plus, I think that Cane is a drag on any real story for Lily on the show, especially since she is a legacy character.

    Think about it, Cane is driving home from the office… in soap fashion he and Lily have just spoken about their undying love (pun intended) and they hang up and BAM!!! Cane’s car is struck by a drunken Senator Wheeler who is running away from Genoa City after his involvement in the death of Leslie and Tyler’s mother’s murder is revealed (because we all know it will eventually be revealed).

    It could be a truly compelling story about how the two, Tyler and Lily, come together in the aftermath. Tyler could be crushed to discover that his mother was trying to be a hero by revealing ‘voter fraud’ or something sinister by Wheeler while working for his campaign and that’s why she is dead and, of course, Lily is beyond devastated over the loss of Cane. Over months and months we can see a true and real love develop between the two. It could be based more on love and not just sexual attraction which is all I see right now from Tyler towards Lily (I’m not talking about rape when I say sexual attraction)

    This story could be an umbrella story, as well. Think of the dramatic implications on Jill. She considered him her son so it could bring her closer to Billy or even possibly to drink. And it could be a great way to bring Dru back, as well. Dru could have the soap staple of amnesia but while watching the news and seeing Lily’s picture on there while Cane’s death is being reported, she gets her memories back and makes her way back to Genoa City.

    OK, I could write here forever on what the stories would lead into so I will stop. Harlee490 hates my 2-3 screen posts. But in the end, Cane to me is a dead weight to story for Lily. I will never buy her cheating on him or even see her in a dramatic story with him latched onto her sleeve like a 2 year old boy in the supermarket with his mom.

    Kill off Cane.

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    harlee490

    [quote=pjc722]HARLEE490, As for Dru coming back with a kid in tow, I won’t buy that because the woman fell off a cliff and disappeared even after a long and exhaustive 1 DAY search for her (sarcasm). No fetish would survive.
    [/quote]

    Oh I know this, it was more wishful thinking because Neil\Dru is A-A super couple in pop TV culture….Bill wanted them to have a love child why he didn’t & wouldn’t go there ever again, then LML go there and do this story was a slap in William J. Bell’s face? If fans knew the story she most certainly did know! |(

    That connection between this amazing couple through Lily, or be it new (if Dru comes back) needs to happen…the next true generation of Winters\Barber blood in Neil\Dru :love:

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    alstonboy4315

    Lily has chemistry with NOONE because Christel Khalil is bland, boring and has no real spark. The only man on the canvas that she had even a LITTLE bit of chemistry with was Michael Graz/Daniel. I say that Lily needs to just be a housewife and raise her kids. Put Cane with Chelsea. Goddard is almost as useless as Khalil, but he seems to do better alongside powerful/fiery females such as Chloe/Elizabeth Hendrickson. I enjoyed Cane and Chloe. Why the writers dismantled that pairing for this muddy dishwater garbage that has become “Lane” is beyond me………

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    tedew

    Aside from it appearing that Christel Khalil seems to be trying to make herself look like Kerry Washington and Daniel Goddard may possibly be hiding something much more than his character’s past(s); I don’t get the extreme vitriol lashed out at these two persons.

    Y&R has much more viewership than from us who read and post regularly in here. Right or wrong, what is deemed unacceptable here seems to be relished and adored by the greater majority of viewers. We may not get it but that’s the way it is.

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    pjc722

    I am in the camp of loving CK! I think she is a talented actress who the writers must take the blame for giving lack of story to over the past few years. With cane as her center of the universe lily is perpetually having to be a goody two shoes nice girl because the writers wrote cane as her protector, hero and champion.

    Why they had lily accept cane back after he led her to believe he was a ghost after she buried him, had sex with her while a “ghost” and then watched as she was institutionalized, leaving her twins without a parent IS BEYOND ME! Of course that was under Maria so Jill and josh deservedly so get a pass.

    But I do think that Cane, who has lied more times then telling the truth, needs to be set free from the show. The character of cane is holding back whatever dramatic acting CK can deliver. No matter how many times lily gets mad at cane he delivers his patronizing “babe. Babe. Babe” whisper dialogue and lily is back to being boring.

    If they keep him and if he sleeps with Chelsea … Why now that she is pregnant I am not sure… Then there needs to be more of a reason for cane to do it other than the soap staple of working late n being drunk. With Lauren n michael it has been set up for weeks n months now that as happy as those two look it ain’t all roses. So when Lauren n carmine locked lips I was sorry for michael but cheered Lauren on! It was believable. Lily n cane are saccharin sweet and not so believable an longer.

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    hey mon

    Can is an integral part of this Show, and he’s not even an Abbott or a Newman. In 2011 and 2012, we trashed through his entire familial back-story, found out that his Dad was a crime-boss, and his Mother the town crazee. Now Colin and Gen are gone, and Cane is still a very big part of the canvas.

    That’s the way that it is, and it cannot be changed. If Cane were to die, it would have happened in February 2011. When he died right in front of us on the church steps. What the Lane girls must have done to SONY and CBS to make them force MAB and Hogan to bring Cane back from the dead. The whole Cane/Caleb/gas-lighting s/l was the WORST s/l in Y&R history. Shall I remind you, Laura Spencer had Robert Scorpio hanging from a balcony handrail while some ghoulish song blared in the background, “You will never love me….”

    But yet Cane remains. At CBS.com Dan Goddards’ photo is one of the most prominent pictures. He is the one on Price is Right. He is the one at the Shopping Mall anniversary gatherings. Cane is going no-where.

    Victoria Rowell is NEVER coming back to this Show. Yeah, I’d like it, but it ain’t happeneing. Id’like Sabyn Gabet as Tricia to come back. Lauren as Brittany Hodges. Aint gonna happen. Can we resurrect Colleen? Is Jana’s ghost available tomorrow? No. #ell, I’d even settle for Amber and her porn site right now.

    But right now, we have Avery reminiscing with Steve Burton. Chloe married to The Chipmunk, Lily in a car in a blizzard with Tyler.

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    scrumptious

    The last thing Neil Winters needs is another child. He has baby Moses, an infant he never sees, who has been off-screen since last year.

    It’s baffling that Neil forced himself to marry Sophia for Moses sake and now he barely mentions the kid.

    Does his hot young girlfriend Leslie even know Neil has a baby boy stashed away somewhere?

    That said, I’d love to see Drucilla return. She’s the only fan fav who could really shake things up for the entire show.

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    Brittany

    Christel Khalil’s Lily sizzles onscreen with Daniel Goddard’s Cane to the point where you feel like a Peepie–hottest couple in daytime. But when it comes to Tyler–he is so slimey, such an awful actor with his 70s pimp ways and mannerism most viewers who are women, are turned completely OFF! Tyler has as much chemistry with Lily as Cane has with MCE’s Chelsea who should only be paired with Chloe (guess Muhney got tired of doing all the work). Listen up YR–give us a gay StoryLine with Chloe and Chelsea. Jaime, I know youll agree a gay SL is long overdue and these women have almost as much chemistry as Kevin had with Daniel Romallotti.

    Sorry to all you Christel and Lily haters but the Girl is On Fire and we love her. Since they have ghettoed down Leslie you have to be happy with that stereotypical woman and move the Hell on!

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    pjc722

    Sorry scrumptious , but Neil mentions Moses far more than you’d expect. It’s just said we don’t see him. Just the other day on valentines day Sophia called and Neil left Leslie to talk to her abt Moses. He even mentions before making plans with Leslie that he doesn’t have Moses for the weekend so lets get busy.

    I was not a fan of Sophia, their pairing, or her getting pregnant right out of the gate. I was just surprised they didn’t attempt to recast Sophia so that there was a better actress with more chemistry with Neil instead of writing her out.

    Sad how with Neil all the women he finds all seem the same once they get him to kiss them. You look back to Rachel… Mia peeples… To today and you just see sweet “oh Neil” women and none that have the feisty quality and “go after what I want” quality that drucilla had. Leslie had that before they paired her with Neil, had her leave a better career as a litigator for a corporate lawyer gig, and brought her brother on.

    But Neil mentions Moses frequently.

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    hey mon

    I think Dan Goddard is playing both sides of the fence, and to anyone who matters.

    Have you ever heard of a character being brought back like Cane Ashby was in Feb 2011? Killed off, on screen, cadaver in the morgue, identified by and being cried over by Colin, dead as a door-nail. But brought back, none-the-less.

    Then the Queen of Daytime is brought on as his Mother, Genie Francis, to seal the deal? This guy must have given quite a few guys and gals in Los Angeles the ‘roll of their life-time”, to nab Laura Spencer and Scorpio as his parents.

    And the guy, as we can see from TraceyAbbott’s avatar, is very willing to show off the ‘goods’ in his underwear, a bit too eager, if you ask me. His lats need some work, and so do his delts, but I’m sure he has brought a smile to many executives at SONY and CBS, both male and female.

    Since he is approaching 40 yrs old, he may want to brush up with some Viagra or Cialis, ‘when the time is right’, in case some blushing gal corporate hack, or drooling guy executive, comes knocking on his dressing room door.

    As I review the old Beastmaster clips, I see Danny-boy was actually in better shape back then. He needs to hit the weights something hard for his back, and commit to eating only fruits, nuts, vegetables, and whole grains– or he may find himself having to give up air-time to Stevie Burton, who is in much better shape than he is.

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    pferrando

    Good lord…so much speculation.

    No one ever has gotten anywhere on the casting couch in Hollywood. >)

    I like and have always liked the character of Cane. He was one of the few characters who didn’t really “change” during MABs tenure. The character was written all over the place, but he kinda kept the Cane and Lily thing going for the viewers. Other than Billy and Victoria, there weren’t really many couples to get behind at that time.

    He’s been on the show for some time, and he’s good to keep around IMO.

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    noway

    [quote=hey mon]I think Dan Goddard is playing both sides of the fence, and to anyone who matters.

    Have you ever heard of a character being brought back like Cane Ashby was in Feb 2011? Killed off, on screen, cadaver in the morgue, identified by and being cried over by Colin, dead as a door-nail. But brought back, none-the-less.

    Then the Queen of Daytime is brought on as his Mother, Genie Francis, to seal the deal? This guy must have given quite a few guys and gals in Los Angeles the ‘roll of their life-time”, to nab Laura Spencer and Scorpio as his parents.

    And the guy, as we can see from TraceyAbbott’s avatar, is very willing to show off the ‘goods’ in his underwear, a bit too eager, if you ask me. His lats need some work, and so do his delts, but I’m sure he has brought a smile to many executives at SONY and CBS, both male and female.

    Since he is approaching 40 yrs old, he may want to brush up with some Viagra or Cialis, ‘when the time is right’, in case some blushing gal corporate hack, or drooling guy executive, comes knocking on his dressing room door.

    As I review the old Beastmaster clips, I see Danny-boy was actually in better shape back then. He needs to hit the weights something hard for his back, and commit to eating only fruits, nuts, vegetables, and whole grains– or he may find himself having to give up air-time to Stevie Burton, who is in much better shape than he is.[/quote]
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    You do have an imagination. sb actually leaves much to be desired also.

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    Coffee_Junkie

    [quote=TraceyAbbot101]I still say DG is ” slippin the salami ” to a CBS executive somewhere…[/quote]

    I get that very same feeling about Jessica Collins/Avery. Something doesn’t smell right. The ENTIRE SHOW revolves around her now. WHY???

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    tedew

    I’m sorry but even though making for some possible interesting new directions, non of these recent beginnings of breakups are ringing true for me. They are all to sudden and without any or with no good or dubious reasons.

    Also… what on earth was that wealthy Dowager Chancellor out driving by herself at her age in the middle of a massive blizzard? Has she no limos nor chauffeurs to drive them?

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    pjc722

    OK, just finished watching the “STORM OF THE CENTURY” “YOU BETTER WATCH OUT GENOA CITY” and all I can say is that we were duped!

    Sorry, all those who think I am always negative but this was a bust and a promotional lie for me!!!

    Not one thing happened here that doesn’t happen all the time on the show. The biggest joke of them all is that everyone was out driving in it! I live on the east coast where we’ve had blizzards and snowstorms and not only does my job close down early but the city does, as well. On top of that, EVERYONE STAYS HOME and bars and restaurants don’t open.

    EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT in Genoa City jumped out into their cars to go somewhere… except for Billy and Victoria! (And soooooo happy they got 5 minutes in the whole storm to let us know they will be redecorated that cheap set!!!)

    I have to agree with TEDEW and WHY was Katherine out driving?! Who else doesn’t see Adrianna becoming her new best friend like she was for Amber?! Repeat repeat repeat.

    Sure, I loved that kiss between Lauren and Carmine and was ecstatic that it was just a kiss and not a hotel room romp! now Michael and Lauren have some spice. I didn’t understand Sharon running over to Adam’s or Nick at the bar because WHO THE HELL WAS WATCHING FAITH?!! Or even Chloe discovering she’s pregnant and the best time to rush over to tell the man who you just told to take a long walk off a short pier that youre pregnant WAS DURING A BLIZZARD THEY HAVE NICKNAMED “THE STORM OF THE CENTURY”!!!

    Or Nikki not just staying at the Abbott Mansion DURING a snow storm but forcing the hired help to drive you to your penthouse across town! (I can just see Nikki saying “I need to be home with Victor” and hopping into a Ford F150 pick-up truck with the lawnmower and rakes poking out the back of the truck bed!)

    Avery leaves an hour after the DJ says STAY OFF THE ROAD FOLKS!

    Lily staying late at the office with Tyler and not just saying it will get done tomorrow there is a blizzard about to hit. OR her twins being left at home with the sitter as a BLIZZARD “the storm of the century” is about to hit!?!!!

    I have no problem with the stories… in essence… but I do have a problem with CBS marketing promoting it as if there was going to be something major happening! Nothing new happened other than Abby deciding to go out and grab a cocktail DURING A BLIZZARD and meeting Chavez or whatever his name is! Sure, that was great and I will like the pairing because I love ABBY but where is the suspense in a promoted blizzard if every damn citizen is driving around town!

    It was lazy writing and even worse promotion. It just makes it desperate on the part of Jill and Josh to have written that to weave the stories together when you could have still told the story with just FLURRIES OUTSIDE!!!

    SUCH A WASTE!

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    soapbaby

    ^^ I will say that the “storm of the century” aspect was unnecessary for the reasons you stated above. Still, I enjoyed the majority of the stories played out.

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    Dyllan

    [quote=Coffee_Junkie][quote=TraceyAbbot101]I still say DG is ” slippin the salami ” to a CBS executive somewhere…[/quote]

    I get that very same feeling about Jessica Collins/Avery. Something doesn’t smell right. The ENTIRE SHOW revolves around her now. WHY???[/quote]

    ITA. I want to know if Jessica Collins is someone’s long lost daughter. How the f*ck does she get so much airtime? The entire show evolves around this insipid character.

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    Divagalore

    [quote=SoapArmageddon]I don’t get even the slightest hint that Lily is attracted to Tyler.[/quote]

    [quote=soapbaby]^^ This bears repeating. Lily doesn’t even register that she finds Tyler at least physically attractive. I blame the actress because the storytelling dictates that there should some attraction as the duo have been placed in close proximity on multiple occasions. The way it’s played now, if/when Lily acts on Tyler’s advances it will seem out of nowhere. CK is completely flat in her performances. She registered an easy chemistry with Michael Grazedi and at least tries with Daniel Goddard. With Redaric Williams she is not even making the effort.[/quote]

    I have a feeling this is very new for the actress, and having her “connecting” with Tyler doesn’t feel comfortable for her. I’ve never viewed CK as a strong actress, but normally she’s been put with white male love interests, where she comes across more relaxed, but here she seems very different. Well, one thing I don’t care for is Lily and Cane weren’t having problems, and all of a sudden we had Tyler flirting her. Then she’s constantly mentioning her husband as if she has no interest. Then you flip the switch, and we’ve got Cane fighting for Chelsea to get interviewed at Jabot’s new Fashion division. Now he’s been popping up around her acting a little too happy to just to be in her presence. So I don’t know where this story is going, but it does feel obvious that they are forcing it a bit for Tyler and Lily to bond. If Lily does somewhat connect with Tyler, it’ll probably be because she’s noticing Cane and Chelsea getting closer. But with Chelsea being pregnant by Adam, that won’t go anywhere, then we’ll have Lane back together.

    This story could be better, if the writers actually took out the time to make it entertaining.

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    pjc722

    People don’t you think the reason that she is not registering attraction with Tyler is not her lack of acting chops BUT her abundance of acting talent?!

    I mean, if we all remember her story with cane for some reason she is head over heels with cane so of course she wouldn’t be attracted to Tyler. For one thing Tyler gives off this air of “I could have her in a second” vibe that would repeal lily because she has always gone for sweet guys!

    Remember right before Kevin gave her an std he was sweet as pie and understanding … She was having parent issues I believe. Then Daniel was all sweet to her and nice. Then cane was just gushing sweet and gentlemanly.

    Tyler is the cool dude who has all this bravado and a crapload of ego. Lily doesn’t go for that. SO MAYBE JUST MAYBE all the negative of why she’s not having chemistry is exactly how it’s being written and she is being directed to act.

    Yes Tyler and the actor are HOT!! And I would definitely let him eat crackers in bed but that doesn’t mean so would every other gay man or woman.

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    hey mon

    Dyllan, I think you know why Jessica Collins is getting so much air time. It is those in your face tatas; and that just the right size, not too small or big booty. Throw in the bleach blonde bombshell hair, the law degree, and she can cook… what a perfect catch. From what I have read about JFP on this site, Collins is just what Ms Jill would want on her Show. No wonder she has 2 of the biggest studs on the Show fighting over her.

    But ya, The Storm of the Century was a bust, and boring, and predictable. The biggest s/l to come out of this is Katherine and Adriana. Like someone else said, I expect an ‘Amber’-like s/l to come out of this one. Too bad we can’t get Adrianne Franz to play the part.

    Dan Goddard knows what it ‘takes’ to get ahead in the entertainment industry, and I’m sure he knows how to ‘give it’, as well. Male, female, when you enter the world of Entertainment, you have to do what is ‘necessary’ to stay on the forefront. I’m sure that the BeastMaster does what he has to do, from time to time.

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    tedew

    Regarding the Storm of the Century being a bust … has there really been any satisfaction to what was being promoted as an extreme high point weather wise or disaster wise over the past few years?

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    SoapArmageddon

    [quote=pjc722]People don’t you think the reason that she is not registering attraction with Tyler is not her lack of acting chops BUT her abundance of acting talent?!…[/quote]

    As patronizing as this was, it still managed to give me the laugh of the day. :bigsmile:

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    yojoromo4469

    [quote=tedew]I’m sorry but even though making for some possible interesting new directions, non of these recent beginnings of breakups are ringing true for me. They are all to sudden and without any or with no good or dubious reasons.

    Also… what on earth was that wealthy Dowager Chancellor out driving by herself at her age in the middle of a massive blizzard? Has she no limos nor chauffeurs to drive them?[/quote]

    Hey Tedew, how about every time there is an accident or the car breaks down going from an office to a club, in a city they always manage to be out in the middle of nowhere without any other traffic, buildings or anything around?

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    tashikins

    Brittany, ‘ghettoed down’ Leslie? What does that mean. Is ghettoed the opposite of ‘valleyed.’ What makes Leslie ghetto? Your comments are a little culturally insensitive. No I don’t think that Tyler is an awful actor and he certainly turns me on–and I am all woman hon! May be Cane’s insecurity stems from his dishonesty. He and Lily sizzle? He has illtreated her–yes ause comes in many guises, constantly morphing, lying about who you are to the one you ‘love’ is mental abuse. Is that what turns you on Brittany?

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    pferrando

    Having lived in Wisconsin in a climate where blizzards are common, it’s a known fact that we all drive around in them anyway.

    But remember it’s a soap. And I’d much rather have a common natural disaster bring people together for believable reasons than create something like Clear Springs, or a poisoned water system to drive story.

    I liked it.

    Yeah, there were a couple of moments I had to “suspend disbelief”, but it’s continuing to drive Josh’s new tales.

    My biggest complaint…that stupid DJ.

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    harlee490

    I have liked snowstorm and the effect on some stories, how it moved things forward, there is fallout over some stories.

    This tool placing Josh’s stories to drive more story and I love it. I haven’t enjoyed Y&R like this since ‘2006.

    There are areas which could be tweaked but overall Y&R has improved with their storytelling and look by 75% and still growing better.

    I honestly think we could be entering in a new golden era for Y&R again ;)

    PS: Pferrando If you ever met the music director of Y&R, especially after 1 or 3 martini (s), it would be ugly my friend! ;) I do love that song playing during the Dylan\Avery scenes…I want that song and if someone knows who sings it or the name so I can go to iTunes :)

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    pferrando

    There’s an app you can get called MusicID (free). You hold it as close to the music source as possible, and most times it can ID the song and tell you if you can buy it! It works!

    I’d have a good martini with anyone associated with this show…LOTS to talk about, good and bad. Lately mostly good. :love:

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    hey mon

    I didnt say that we haven’t seen better ones.

    Even shrew-Amelie Heinle has better ones that Jessica Collins, but that doesn’t mean for a minute I could EVER think about a liason with Victoria Newman. Impossible.

    I’m just saying that for ‘mind wandering’ factor, Avery is right up there with Leslie and Chelsea. Although Chelsea is becoming less lately, cause she is always pregnant. She is, literally, a baby factory.

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