HomeTVThe Young and The RestlessIs Summer a Newman or an Abbott on The Young and the Restless? Jamey Giddens March 21, 2013 The Young and The Restless 55 Comments If you follow me on Twitter, you know I become absolutely irate when anyone even jokes about the possibility of Summer (Hunter King) being Jack Abbott's (Peter Bergman) biological daughter on The Young and the Restless. In my mind, Summer is the daughter of Phyllis "Red" Summers (Michelle Stafford) and dimpled, speakeasy proprietor Nicholas Newman (Joshua Morrow) and that's THAT! But could I be wrong? In the March 25-April 8 issue of CBS Soaps In Depth, the magazine raised the question of a paternity puzzle with both King and Y&R scribe Josh Griffith. Said King of her conversations with Griffith: "I ask Josh almost every day, 'Whose daughter am I?' she smiles. "He says to me, 'I don't know what you're talking about.' While Griffith told the mag Nick is simply being protective of Summer, in not wanting his daughter pursuing anything with Kyle (Blake Hood)—as opposed to trying to prevent a Greek tragedy—the writer did offer this cryptic tease: "We're looking at the possibility of anything." Lord have mercy, y'all are gonna make Phick lovers call up the Lane fans and ask for the number of one of them there banner plane pilots! Do you guys think Summer will turn out to be Nick's child, or Jack's? Is Summer a Newman or an Abbott on The Young and the Restless? That kid is an Abbott. Call up Mamie and have her make Summer a plate of sticky buns (Peanut butter free!) (75%, 1,944 Votes) Nick is definitely the father. Phick-4-Ever! (25%, 634 Votes) Total Voters: 2,578Vote Loading ... 55 Responses hey mon March 21, 2013 Best thing about the Return of Josh G. He can finish what he started, in that Summer is Jack’s! Log in to Reply alstonboy4315 March 21, 2013 Regardless of who her sperm donor is, Summer Newman is definitely hot in the ass like her man-trapping mammy, Syphallus Newman!! This girl has a big future ahead of her. Phyllis was in her 20s when she trapped Danny into marriage. I foresee Summer beating that record. And by the way, I love Hunter Haley King. The casting director did a MAHLEVOUSSSS job when they found her. She plays off of Stafford so well and they really do have a realistic mother/daughter dynamic! I personally think they should leave ancient history in the past and just let Summer continue to be Nickclueless’ daughter!! Log in to Reply harlee490 March 21, 2013 YES! Absolutely, she’s Jack’s daughter I believe Josh was writing that way when he was aborted because of death hack MAB! I always have said she’s Jack’s daughter…this could be great if played right and not a Greek tradegy but looming into one….SO MUCH STORY! :love: YES! YES! :bigsmile: Log in to Reply harlee490 March 21, 2013 Let us not forget Bill played this angle before of young lovers attraction to each other and being related…hell all Bells do that on their soaps…Mac & Billy…just saying Log in to Reply The_Moustache March 21, 2013 IIRC, when the DNA results came back, Nick took off with them and left Genoa City for a few days. everyone waited anxiously for him to come back and tell them who Summer’s dad was (because it’s not like they couldn’t have called the lab and asked for another copy of the results). then when Nick came back to town he announced to everyone that Summer was his and no one else’s. EVERYONE just took his word for it. FOR REAL. THAT’S HOW IT WENT. Log in to Reply Luke Kerr March 21, 2013 #crossingfingers Summer = Jack’s daughter. Log in to Reply soapjunkie88 March 21, 2013 Summer is Jack’s. I never doubted that. I hope this might be where they are going with this. Log in to Reply SoapArmageddon March 21, 2013 Y&R fans deserve to get a young Abbott female to make up for the loss of Colleen. Nick already has a daughter. With SORAS-ing, Faith will be in high school in about two or three years time. Summer should be Jack’s. Log in to Reply soapbaby March 21, 2013 I have ALWAYS wanted Summer to be the daughter of Phyllis & Jack. There was something fishy about Nick being the only one to absolutely know Summer’s paternity. Summer finally being revealed as Jack’s daughter as she lusts after Kyle is great storytelling. Log in to Reply NathanHastingsSr. March 21, 2013 King looks like Sharon Case… Ill miss Blake Hood Log in to Reply KMRDaytime March 21, 2013 As long as they don’t rewrite history so that Phyllis is to blame for the mistake I am in. With the original story I always thought that Nick lied about the paternity — he took the results and went away to think about whether he wanted to be with Phyllis or Sharon. He came back saying he was the father and that he wanted a divorce from Sharon. I always thought he claimed the baby so that he could have Phyllis. It made it easier to get rid of Sharon and ensured that Jack would be out of the picture. I would love it if it turned out Nick lied all those years ago… Log in to Reply Mel_O March 21, 2013 [quote=KMRDaytime]As long as they don’t rewrite history so that Phyllis is to blame for the mistake I am in.[/quote] Me too. She’s had enough of her past come back to bite her in the ass. It’s Nick’s turn. Also, it would make for a great storyline…with Nick having to come forward with the truth in order to stop Summer from sleeping w/ her brother. Log in to Reply Angie Lucy March 21, 2013 Yep, Nick lied. I always figured he did it not so much because he wanted to ditch Sharon–after all, he offered to stay with her and Sharon refused–but because he wanted to be a dad again. He wanted the joy of having a baby to drown out the pain of losing Cassie. Log in to Reply ChristianDavis148 March 21, 2013 [quote=The_Moustache]IIRC, when the DNA results came back, Nick took off with them and left Genoa City for a few days. Everyone waited anxiously for him to come back and tell them who Summer’s dad was (because it’s not like they couldn’t have called the lab and asked for another copy of the results). Then when Nick came back to town he announced to everyone that Summer was his and no one else’s. EVERYONE just took his word for it. FOR REAL. THAT’S HOW IT WENT.[/quote] The Moustache has is correct! I vividly remember it going down exactly the way that he said it did! Log in to Reply The_Moustache March 21, 2013 the writers could blame it on Nick’s amnesia or something that he went thru during that storyline where he lost his memory. Log in to Reply tashikins March 21, 2013 Oh let her be Nick’s. Bring back Keemo and let Phyllis have another baby –Jack’s. Log in to Reply Yoryla March 21, 2013 Summer Newman is and always will be the daughter of Nicholas Newman. There is no way they would ever take a child away from a Newman to turn it into an Abbott. Especially when Nick already lost one daughter, Cassie. Nor would they ever make Nick lie and keep another man from his child. This is one of these soap topics that just keeps popping up like a bad penny, even though it’s been six years since she was born! It’s never gonna happen… Log in to Reply giogio March 21, 2013 Inhaling deeply, hand on chest…saying oh my. This is a real twist for a newbie of two years like me. Very interesting. Log in to Reply tmac March 21, 2013 [quote=harlee490]Let us not forget Bill played this angle before of young lovers attraction to each other and being related…hell all Bells do that on their soaps…Mac & Billy…just saying ;)[/quote] harlee, don’t forget Victoria and Cole. They turned out not to be related but had many an uneasy moment when they believed he was Victor’s son. Log in to Reply harlee490 March 21, 2013 [quote=tmac][quote=harlee490]Let us not forget Bill played this angle before of young lovers attraction to each other and being related…hell all Bells do that on their soaps…Mac & Billy…just saying ;)[/quote] harlee, don’t forget Victoria and Cole. They turned out not to be related but had many an uneasy moment when they believed he was Victor’s son.[/quote] Yes exactly so this is very Y&R storyline! And loving it, oh let it be true! Log in to Reply thecourt99 March 21, 2013 [quote=Angie Lucy]Yep, Nick lied. I always figured he did it not so much because he wanted to ditch Sharon–after all, he offered to stay with her and Sharon refused–but because he wanted to be a dad again. He wanted the joy of having a baby to drown out the pain of losing Cassie.[/quote] I am a Shick fan, and while I knew the possibility was there that Summer was Jack’s, I didn’t want to go there because if Nick lied…that meant he chose Phyllis. If I recall, the baby was the turning point in whether or not Shick would reconcile. So as a Shick fan, this would piss me off… However..if they spin it to where he lied because he wanted be a father again. I would buy it. It’s still stupid, but I would buy it. I would make myself buy it. I mean, it wasn’t like Sharon was barren. Log in to Reply laneluva March 21, 2013 Lord, please don’t switch it. Give Phick fans at least their family. Log in to Reply MsAgentProvocateur1 March 21, 2013 This is going to sound callous but after they switched Lily’s paternity late in the game, I could care less whose kid they want to make Summer. It wouldn’t phase me either way. Log in to Reply SoapArmageddon March 21, 2013 I don’t see how Nick is going to be able to justify his lie about that paternity test if she turns out to be Jack’s. Amnesia, wanting to be a parent again, Sharon’s refusal to take him back. None of that is a good enough excuse. He’d still look like the douche he showed himself to be when he left his grieving wife to begin with. Log in to Reply soapjunkie88 March 21, 2013 Nick could have lied because after Cassie’s death he needed Summer to be his. It’s not that he was acting cruel or anything. Nick was hurting too. And I could see him wanting to raise another child and getting out of something that was so broken that it only kept hurting him. It would be very understandable. And with all the Kyle/Summer teasing, I think it would have a big impact on the show if they go there. It would bring so many old feelings back. It could give Sharon, Michelle, Peter and Joshua some great scenes. Not to mention Hunter. Log in to Reply harlee490 March 21, 2013 It was a storyline robbed to the PHACK fans in the beginnning because MAB completely dropped this story. I have always thought that story was so rushed when she came on as HW & EP…(as I choke on my words |( ), always been a PHACK fan first and letting Jack have his own “beauty” adds a missing dynamic that Abbott family needs badly right now…it’s all about story and there’s plenty of it here to be engrossing and edgy! Nick doesn’t have to be written as some assh*le liar, because he did have memory problems and maybe this is why Nick feels uneasy subconsciously about the situation….it could be revivifying storyline. Hunter King (know some don’t like her I do every much), she could be stuck in the middle of battle. We need younger Abbotts as Newman clan has to drive the next generations. It puts Jack in a complete different situation and look how Jack spoiled all his nieces, Abby & Colleen…they always go to Uncle Jack…this would be WONDERFUL! :love: I’v been waiting for this for many years to come back and maybe FINALLY it we come to fruition. :bigsmile: Log in to Reply soapjunkie88 March 21, 2013 ICAM harlee. The moment Nick was so fishy about the paternity and Jack being the one delivering Summer, I knew this was Phack’s baby. They were the ones robbed. Let’s make no mistake there. Log in to Reply laneluva March 21, 2013 Is Kyle sticking his tongue down Summer’s throat in this photo? Because if they goo too far with this, it would be sorta gross to make them siblings. Log in to Reply AHeart4Fiction March 21, 2013 I want Summer to be Jack’s! I’ve always wanted Jack to have a little girl that was his namesake like Victor/Victoria but if he can’t have that then I would love if Summer was his. Nick has enough kids plus he was an a** to Sharon back then so it’d suit him right. Log in to Reply pferrando March 21, 2013 I think it’d be one of those long time secrets finally brought out on Y and R. Nick’s memory issues could have led to the mixup with the paternity. I’d be cool with either. Since I guess it was Josh’s story, he’s free to do with it as he sees fit. Either way people will be pissed, but either way, it makes for great soap. That’s all I care about. Log in to Reply The_Moustache March 21, 2013 they can just say Nick was suffering from some kind of post-traumatic disorder since it happened around the time that Cassie died and the breakdown of his marriage. Log in to Reply liason4real March 21, 2013 I saw the Y&R scenes before Nick took off with the paternity results, which led me to believe that he knew the baby was Jack’s and lied to keep the baby and be with Phyllis. Log in to Reply tmac March 21, 2013 [quote=laneluva]Is Kyle sticking his tongue down Summer’s throat in this photo? Because if they goo too far with this, it would be sorta gross to make them siblings.[/quote] laneluva, that didn’t really happen…Summer was having a fantasy that Kyle kissed her. Log in to Reply The_Moustache March 21, 2013 i’m gonna miss Blake Hood. he looked like he coulda been Jack’s son. Log in to Reply david46208 March 22, 2013 @everyone: Blake was too “hood” for Y&R! Log in to Reply Jorpa March 22, 2013 I have always believed Summer belonged to Jack. Please JG let this happen! Log in to Reply pferrando March 22, 2013 This is a miss by Jill. He even had some of the same mannerisms of both Jack and Billy. And he was a good looking guy. Log in to Reply soapqueen1 March 22, 2013 I also remember Phyllis asking Nick about the DNA results paper and him saying, he threw it away cause Summer was his. If you have to take a DNA test to prove paternity then u would want to hang on to the results to prove ur claim. If the DNA proved u werent, u would destroy it just as Nuck did. Summer is Jack’s and it will come out as soon as Kyle falls for her and its the only way to stop the young lovers. Log in to Reply soapqueen1 March 22, 2013 Ur post had me laughing, the casting director didnt do anything! Jill Farren Phelps, Ex. Prod. Simply fired the actress playing Summer and brought in Haley from the last job she had before taking over Y and R. She said here she is, no choice involved. Every actor she gets rid of is replaced by one of her former jobs cast members! Log in to Reply hey mon March 22, 2013 That’s true, there is no casting when it comes to JFP, or it doesn’t look like there is. Jill just wants things her way, and she is the Executive Producer. I’m glad that Joshua G is back, if he can give one the greatest couples in the history of Y&R a child, Phyllis and Jack. And nothing would make me happier than to see Nick in the dog-house, if it turned out that he was hiding the truth simply because of ‘amnesia’ or something like that. Couple everyone knowing that Nick lies about Summer’s paternity, and Adam taking a bullet for his Father, maybe Nick can spend a few years as the Newman family pariah. Of course, stripper-Nicole will always take care of her momma’s-boy. The Moustahce, you got it right on this one. Log in to Reply cgoff March 22, 2013 they did not know if the baby was a girl or a boy Phyllis found the empty envelope, saw the name of the lab that Nick used, got the phone book, called the lab and called the lab for the results after Nick, they would not give them to her because she was not the patient. They sited HIPAA rules. If Phyllis had changed the results, why would she call to get them? Log in to Reply cgoff March 22, 2013 no the dna test was over a 14 months after Cassie died, and the SHICK marriage had a breakdown starting from the beginning of the relationship! lies and cheating for 10 years before Phyllis came into the picture! Log in to Reply cgoff March 22, 2013 Nick was not planning on being with Phyllis! he told Phyllis he was obligated to stay with Noah and whats her name! it was after Sharon could not get Nick to say that he was not in love with Phyllis and that she was bashing Phyllis for telling Nick that she (Phyllis) did not want Nick involved in the life of the baby or her life he was free not care about the baby and oh yeah, Nick catching Sharon and her lover Brad swapping spit and half naked in Sharon SUV in the Newman parking garage and the Fuck you look Sharon gave Nick when he found them! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2i7Rc65GeM Log in to Reply cgoff March 22, 2013 KMRDaytime Nick returned and told Phyllis that he LOVED her and he already LOVED their baby, but he was obligated to stay with Noah and whats her name. Jack was never “in the picture”! Log in to Reply cgoff March 22, 2013 [quote=The_Moustache]the writers could blame it on Nick’s amnesia or something that he went thru during that storyline where he lost his memory.[/quote] the amnesia storyline happened months AFTER Summer was born, and Nick regained all of his memories after he had a car wreck, but by then he had alread fallen in love with Phyllis all over again without the stigma of the PHICK affair. Log in to Reply cgoff March 22, 2013 let’s see Phyllis had sex with Nick multiple times from mid December 2005 thru the first of March 2006 ( the time of the PHICK affair) and during that time she had sex with Jack ONE time after Nick and Phyllis decided to end the affair, the night John went to prison, and after having sex Phyllis told Jack that it was a mistake and should not have happened. So sex multiple times with a viril man in his 30’s and sex one time with a guy pushing 60! hmmmmm who has the faster and more powerful swimmers?!? Summer is a Newman! Nikki, Victoria and even Sharon all commented on how baby Summer looked like Nick. And when Nick had amnesia Phyllis showed him a picture of baby Summer, and Nick said why do you have MY baby picture? PHATERS have been saying Summer was Jack’s since Phyllis annouced she was pregnant, I do not think they would make a Newman an Abbott, even if they have made an Abbott a Newman, JMPO Log in to Reply harlee490 March 22, 2013 First saying Jack conveniently trying to insult PB about “pushing ’60”, it only takes ONE swimmer… No matter how you slice Summer should be a ABBOTT! Phack is SOOO much HOTTER the Phick by leaps and bounds because PB is a better actor and MS ups her A game with Peter :love: Log in to Reply cgoff March 22, 2013 [quote=harlee490]First saying Jack conveniently trying to insult PB about “pushing ’60”, it only takes ONE swimmer…No matter how you slice Summer should be a ABBOTT! Phack is SOOO much HOTTER the Phick by leaps and bounds because PB is a better actor and MS ups her A game with Peter :love: [/quote] who the hell is talking about the actor! the character of Jack FOUGHT in Vietnam! how the hell can he be in his 40’s or 50’s??? if it only takes ONE swimmer, there were a hell of alot of Newman swimmers compared to Abbott swimmers! I do not disagree about MS and PB being the best of the best that has nothin to do with the paternity of Summer Newman! Log in to Reply noway March 22, 2013 SoapQueen1-Just like when Marcy Rylan announced leaving. JFP got on the phone and called up another former HH cast member, no casting department involved. Bring it on, that Summer is Jack’s, we have been waiting…….but then again we the viewers don’t know what’s good for us isn’t that right JFP? Log in to Reply hey mon March 22, 2013 cgoff — Why are you putting down Phack? They are so great together. I feel like I am watching a classic movie from the 30s or 40s when I see them together. They make each other so much more complete when they are together. Phyllis doesn’t have to worry about ol Nick and his roving eye towards whomever — Sharon, Diane, or Red’s own sister. Jack can finally feel comfortable with a wild red-head, and that’s how he likes them. Wild! But without the baggage of Patty, the manipulations of Diane, or the naivete’ of Luan Volien. Phack is the best couple Y&R ever had. And I know Jack Abbott has healthy sperm. They survived the test tube that created Kyle Jenkins. Besides, Jack and Luan had a very short affair in Vietnam, and Keemo was produced. So I think that anyone who has watched The Show can vouch for Jack’s seminal fluid. I can’t wait for the good writing skills of Joshua Griffith to inter-weave the revelation of Summer’s parentage. I know it is going to rock the Newman’s to their rotten core. I hope it changes Newman Enterprises. I hope it changes the way everyone views callous, no-good, momma’s-boy Nicholas C Newman. I can’t wait till Victor has to turn over the grand-parentage of Summer to the parentage of Jack Abbott. Log in to Reply harlee490 March 23, 2013 Summer is Jack’s daughter John’s grand-daughter, Billy, Ashley & Traci’s niece, sister to Kyle, cousins to Abby, Dee, Johnny,… I know Phick fans will be highly upset if this goes this way…but this time are for the Phack fans and so deservedly been waiting on those DNA test results…forever! If this is Phick vs Phack fans…I make no bones about it, I’ve always been a Phack fan so bring it on….(meaning a good nature way) Log in to Reply hey mon March 23, 2013 I hear ya. Nick makes Phyllis a jealous, insecure mess. Log in to Reply tashikins March 23, 2013 I loved Phack the first time around but Phick grew on me. Can’t stand Shick. Log in to Reply RealityCheck 33 June 3, 2013 SPOILER: + + + + + + + + Summer is Jack’s kid. Nick lied all of this time. He’s a louse. Log in to Reply tashikins June 3, 2013 She should stay Nick’s. Log in to Reply Leave a Reply Cancel Reply You must be logged in to post a comment.