Jack and Victor Form an Unholy Alliance on The Young and the Restless



Wednesday's The Young and the Restless started with Christian LeBlanc giving a tour of the Baldwin's penthouse.  He talked about Michael stalking Cricket (Lauralee Bell), the Baldwin/Fisher clan and Michael's love for Lauren (Tracey Bregman).

Jack (Peter Bergman) said there was no way he was at fault for Victor (Eric Braeden) being targeted at his wedding. Victor said he believed Congressman Wheeler (Mark Pinter) was behind the attack, because Wheeler blames Victor for the death of his daughter. Victor then reminded Jack of his own culpability.

Jack quickly realized both of their families could be on Wheeler's hit list.  He agreed to team up with his worst enemy to take Wheeler down.

 Katherine (Jeanne Cooper) missed a meal she'd had scheduled with Cane (Daniel Goddard). When he called, she told him she would be right there. Cane asked her if everything was all right, but she brushed it aside. He realized Katherine was having problems with her memory.

Cane told Katherine she didn't have to go through this alone. She finally copped to having memory lapses, although she warned Jill (Jess Walton) must never find out.

I am so sick and tired of Cane being Katherine and Jill's go-to. Cane lied to and betrayed them both repeatedly, yet they still treat him as family. Why doesn't Billy (Billy Miller) get more scenes with the two women? He's actually Jill's real son, and Kay was best friends with his late father.

Michael asked Lauren if he should have divorce papers drawn up. This took his estranged wife by surprise. I don't know why, considering how she's been acting!

Lauren said she didn't want to lose him. Michael replied, saying he loved her with everything he is. He doesn't want a divorce, but he needs time to think. 

Paul (Doug Davidson) and Chavez (Ignacio Serricchio) continued to investigate the wedding day shooting/bomb drama at the Newman Ranch. They realized there may be a connection between Victor and Wheeler. Why do I get the impression that Genoa City's newest police chief will be just as ineffective as almost every other soap police chief?

Kevin (Greg Rikaart) and Chloe (Elizabeth Hendrickson) struggled to figure out how to pay their bills. Maybe it's just the bad memories from Guiding Light's bill paying storyline, but any soap that resorts to something as mundane as paying an electricity bill or mortgage for a plot point needs to reassess their direction. Soaps should provide escapism from the real world, not a reminder that the rent is past due. 

Lauren went to Carmine (Marco Dapper) and told him their affair was over. He said he couldn't let her go.

37 Responses

  1. Profile photo of logan_echolls
    logan_echolls

    I’m sick of the whole Kevin/Chloe storyline. Isn’t Chloe this big time fashion person? Isn’t she getting child support from rich Billy? Is the coffee shop not doing well? This whole storyline makes no sense at all. Chloe’s god mother is Katherine and she’s having a hard time paying bills? I have no idea why Jill feels people needs a can’t pay my bills storyline. I still remember that stupid Liz/Lucky living in a one bedroom apartment when Liz is a nurse and Lucky is a cop. Made no sense.

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    bobbyew

    I’m just over Ignacio Serricchio and his non acting and English speaking skills. Love Kevin and Chole but please PTB find them something else to do or give someone else that paycheck. Victor and JAck are smarter than this. We know they figured it out about the Congressman but they got the situation wrong. Still loving it though, because its my favorite soap.

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    Duchess

    Actually I think Paul might turn out to be the best police chief yet. It only took him along with Alex an episode to connect Wheeler to Victor’s shooting. Alex is already 1000 times the cop Ronan ever was. I am loving these two together!

    In fact I’m pretty much loving every single thing about Y&R. Yesterday’s episode was another fantastic one. The only thing I’m not loving is Chloe and Kevin. Frankly they both could be shipped off at this point and I wouldn’t shed a tear. I’ve always found Chloe pretty useless but now she’s become unbearable. Except for that Y&R is absolutely on fire!! JFP and Josh are definitely miracle workers.

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    lance_prentiss

    I haven’t been a fan of Chloe since she was paired with Kevin but her friendship with Chelsea makes her watchable.

    I agree Luke re: Cane being the go-to for Katherine and Jill, Billy would be the more logical choice but the scenes b/w Cane and Katherine today were sort of touching. Reminded me of my grandmother and I.

    What exactly is Jess Walton’s shooting schedule? I know that she requested a much lighter workload but this is a bit much.

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    tedew

    But why do they keep making Kevin and his moll of the moment always turn out to be petty criminals???

    Sorry but I still think Alex is very irksome. That will hopefully change soon.

    Paul should actually turn out to be the best police chief even considering his past and his intuitive nature. But there is still something a little bit wrong about Wheeler being front and center.

    Of course Jack and Victor working together is a very positive eye of the storm situation. I actually liked Victor’s apparent softening toward Jack in their confrontation.

    So all of this makes me very confused and unsure about Wheeler.

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    ChrisGa

    [quote=tashikins]Never a fan of Chloe either but now I find her tolerable beacuse of her frienship with Chelsea.[/quote]

    Yeah, the only time Chloe is remotely watchable these days is with Chelsea; she’s far better currently as BFF to Chelsea than she’s been propping up Kevin’s tiresome ass for the last two years. And before anyone starts, I have nothing at all against Greg Rikaart, who’s a good actor most of the time but unfortunately doesn’t have that “shit to sugar” talent in his reportoire that Jamey is always referencing. And Kevin’s been involved in shit storylines for the better part of the last 4 or 5 years with continued diminishing returns. At this point, I’m sure Victor could sequester him to some underground prison in east bumblef— never to be heard from again. Too harsh?

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    stoney07

    Either Kevin needs to be gay, or Jana needs to come back from the dead, because he has zero chemistry with the rest of the women on the show. So either pair him with Rafe or somebody and call it a day, or just…idk. Kevin and Chloe absolutely DOES NOT work. It was cute when they were friends and kind of running from their feelings, and the only reason that somewhat worked for me was because the rest of the show was absolute diarrhea shit.

    On a lighter note, I’m still in love with the show right now. Just about everything is working (except Kevin and Chloe)

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    pjc722

    Wow… I agree with everyone on here about kevin and Chloe! I just don’t get it at all. One thing for sure is this steal from the rich give to the poor ME’s story is the most idiotic of all their stories. For one… GET ANOTHER JOB CHLOE! You’re not watching your daughter but spending a heck of a lot of time with Chelsea so you have time to work.

    Close the coffee shop and get another accounting job Kevin. Or a job that pays.

    Or just file for bankruptcy. Go to Lauren for a loan. Or tell your mother to buy the house or sell it. Tell Katherine.

    Stealing is far worse then most of the things Chloe accuses billy of so why is she still acting smog with him.

    I have to agree that with Kevin and Chloe out of town we could hire two actors with new story in their place.

    WHERE IS JILL?!! This storyline should involve Jill and not cane. I’m sorry I just see cane as an opportunistic Aussie. He just left Katherine at the hospital to beat up Tyler. Jill should be in this story big time and not in hiding somewhere.

    Hate to say it people, but Jill phelps is doing it again with the recasting, younger characters and putting our favorites on the back burner. Where’s Gloria? Jill? Jeffrey? Where is Jill’s relationship with billy? Or anything.

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    SoapArmageddon

    [quote=stoney07]Either Kevin needs to be gay, or Jana needs to come back from the dead, because he has zero chemistry with the rest of the women on the show….[/quote]

    Not true. He has tons of chemistry with Gloria. :bigsmile:

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    pjc722

    I’m of the belief that its a good thing to have characters leave a show for a certain amount of time and think it would be great for Chloe and Kevin to leave the canvas. (I’m not for firing actors but I think it’s good for story)

    For a while there soaps were killing characters off instead of sending them away. Diane never had to die and could have easily left the show as Adam planned and then down the road return and the dramatic payoff with everyone involved Including Kyle would have been enormous.

    Days always has serial killers and GH has them die and then repeatedly return from the dead. Other canceled soaps have done it so many times that it became long in the tooth.b&bs Taylor died and returned twice! Sometimes I wish she would die again. Lol

    For all the second chances Kevin as a character has been given he still does bad foolish things so to remove him from the canvas would be a way to rehabilitate the character for the better. The same with Chloe. It allows new characters to be brought on and new story to be told. Sure Y&R jettisoned half the cast out of town and recast another 1/4 of the cast but those characters were marginal at best in the last year or so.

    I am just getting tired of this “lets do wrong to correct our stupid mistakes” with these two characters. They never once think abt the impact of Delia is they get caught and think what may come out of this is an epic custody battle with billy against Chloe and I’m not for that.

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    yojoromo4469

    [quote=pjc722]Wow… I agree with everyone on here about kevin and Chloe! I just don’t get it at all. One thing for sure is this steal from the rich give to the poor ME’s story is the most idiotic of all their stories. For one… GET ANOTHER JOB CHLOE! You’re not watching your daughter but spending a heck of a lot of time with Chelsea so you have time to work.

    Close the coffee shop and get another accounting job Kevin. Or a job that pays.

    Or just file for bankruptcy. Go to Lauren for a loan. Or tell your mother to buy the house or sell it. Tell Katherine.

    Stealing is far worse then most of the things Chloe accuses billy of so why is she still acting smog with him.

    I have to agree that with Kevin and Chloe out of town we could hire two actors with new story in their place.

    WHERE IS JILL?!! This storyline should involve Jill and not cane. I’m sorry I just see Cane as an opportunistic Aussie. He just left Katherine at the hospital to beat up Tyler. Jill should be in this story big time and not in hiding somewhere.

    Hate to say it people, but Jill Phelps is doing it again with the recasting, younger characters and putting our favorites on the back burner. Where’s Gloria? Jill? Jeffrey? Where is Jill’s relationship with Billy? Or anything.[/quote]

    Jeffrey has moved to Dallas. Cane would be in trouble, trying to beat up Tyler. Jill never had much of a relationship with Billy, her own son. Kevin and Chloe should both, just go as they have been ruined. I could go on and on, but won’t bore U too much.

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    TraceyAbbot101

    I have been a few days behind due to Easter holiday work load, but I did manage to see the Kay/ Cain scenes and I said “what the bloody hell is this?” – not really, but close enough.

    I really do not like how Kay depends on Cain, someone who lied to her in the past….

    the ” Please do something about it as I want my kids to spend as much time with you as they can ” rang FALSE.

    Umm… since when do the twins spent time at the mansion? Esther would be running around, pulling her hair out. The twins are usually with Lily or off to the park with the never seen babysitter.

    The writers need to know fans have an idea of what goes on in GC “between the scenes” and I do not recall the twins spending any time with Kay in the past.

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    harlee490

    yojoromo4469….Lets see, Katherine has story starting and she’s been ill recently, Jack, Phyllis, Victor, Nikki, Neil, Lily, Michael, Lauren, Paul, Billy, Victoria, Nick, Sharon, Adam, all in current stories. This is Jess Walton’s decision not to working full time, not JFP. So what vets are backburner?

    This show was built around younger characters…Bill created as such and it is called “THE YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS” not “THE OLD AND THE DECREPITED” ;)

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    pjc722

    I wonder how much of it was Jess’ decision and more to do with the pure fact that without Jess on the show Jill Phelps has more $$$ to hire former stars from HOLLYWOOD HILLS.

    I’m just saying that if they wanted jess they could have her JUST like they are making concessions for Steve Burton since his family lives in Nashville now and Jill’s family is both in California and in Portland. Plus its a direct QUICKER flight from Portland to LA than Nashville to LA.

    It’s not solely the actress as she has said that if they worked with her she would stay. you could have story and GREAT story with Jess down in LA 2 or 3 days just like Steve Burton.

    It’s just that Jill doesnt really want to write for a middle aged woman who doesn’t have the fan base of Melody Thomas or Jeanne Cooper. Jill is notorious for getting rid of those that are in the over 55 range and LOOK it. Jess is gorgeous and I miss her on the show but I can’t see her having an affair like Lauren is with Carmine. Tracey bergman may be 50 this year (OH MY GOD…. 50 on May29, she looks amazing) but she looks in her late 30s.

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    noway

    [quote=pjc722]I wonder how much of it was Jess’ decision and more to do with the pure fact that without Jess on the show Jill Phelps has more $$$ to hire former stars from HOLLYWOOD HILLS.

    I’m just saying that if they wanted jess they could have her JUST like they are making concessions for Steve Burton since his family lives in Nashville now and Jill’s family is both in California and in Portland. Plus its a direct QUICKER flight from Portland to LA than Nashville to LA.

    It’s not solely the actress as she has said that if they worked with her she would stay. you could have story and GREAT story with Jess down in LA 2 or 3 days just like Steve Burton.

    It’s just that Jill doesnt really want to write for a middle aged woman who doesn’t have the fan base of Melody Thomas or Jeanne Cooper. Jill is notorious for getting rid of those that are in the over 55 range and LOOK it. Jess is gorgeous and I miss her on the show but I can’t see her having an affair like Lauren is with Carmine. Tracey bergman may be 50 this year (OH MY GOD…. 50 on May29, she looks amazing) but she looks in her late 30s.[/quote]
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    Rumor has it another HH actress is coming on to play Summer’s bff..

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    ANGELWENDY15

    I’m really surprised the way Jill Phelps used to get rid of characters on GH that Kevin and Chloe are still on. They are just boring. I’d rather see more of Jill and I still think it was a mistake to get rid of Tucker. He had more ties to characters then Dylan. I’ve always liked Steve Burton but I am just not getting into his character of Dylan. It’s like I am seeing Jason Morgan as a war hero now. Just my opinion. The Lauren/Micheal story is the best one right now.

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    stoney07

    Everyone is speculating about Jess Walton. I still stand by the fact that the woman was COMPLETELY off canvas BEFORE JG and JFP were hired.

    JFP may be the Anti-Christ to most, but I don’t think she’s solely responsible for Jill not being on screen.

    Meanwhile, Lauren, Michael, Victor, Jack, Phyllis, Nick, Sharon, Adam, Katherine, Neil…..even PAUL is getting some love now.

    When’s the last time we’ve seen that?

    Gloria is a recurring character and so is Jeffrey.

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    harlee490

    ABSOLUTELY Stoney…this is Jess’s decision before the new team arrived…if she doesn’t want to what can you do…maybe bring back Brenda Dickson fulltime…hmmmm…if she played Jill like the “70s version Jill I’m all for it! ;)

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    ChrisGa

    [quote=stoney07]Everyone is speculating about Jess Walton. I still stand by the fact that the woman was COMPLETELY off canvas BEFORE JG and JFP were hired.[/quote]

    Yep, think you’re right, this all happened while MAB was still in charge(and before her termination was announced). If memory serves, I read somewhere–probably on this site–that she moved to Oregon(?)to spend more time with her family/grandchildren and wanted a break but that she would be “available” on a limited basis if and when needed. Considering she’s been working pretty consistently on the show for the last 25 years I don’t begrudge her the time off but I do miss her(and Jill) onscreen(and frankly, it would’ve been so much more meaningful if that had been Jill that Katherine was confiding in about her memory lapses and not that useless ass Cane).

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    hey mon

    Oh yeah! Kool-aid here…

    MAB tried to use Jess in every way possible. She had Jill fall into love with a very believable story-line that Tristan Rogers and Walton made work — Colin and Jill. There was really nothing that could be done with Colin’s character, once the decision was made to make Genevieve a crazy-loon who wanted Colin dead in June 2011, and was banging him in July. Jess was great at Delia’s custody hearing in October 2011, with the court-room aftermath scenes with her and Miller being top-notch. Jess came back again in Jan 2012, confronted Chelsea, went to Cane’s wedding, and then disappeared to Oregon.

    So I am supposed to be filled with glee that Jess came back as Jill, just to bed Tucker, sit around with Kay for a few shows, then disappear again? That’s it? Not one scene with Billy, or Johnny, or anything like that? We sure did see Avery bake some cupcakes during that time.

    So really, let’s not pretend… Jill’s Y&R is getting rid of its’ veterans, one by one, and filled with kids from ‘Hollywood Height’s, and that’s not that big of a deal. It is the ‘Young and the Restless’. Once, Nicole was Young, back in 1979, and when she first came on with Paul and her sister, others got far less screen time — Liz, Stuart, etc. That’s what the advertisers want.

    The fact that MAB did not get rid of the older women, is one of the reasons she is gone.

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    stoney07

    But aside from Jill, what vet has been gotten rid of? And really, Jill can’t be counted because Jill was already gone!!!!

    So since JFP has become EP, what vet has been let go that wasn’t already gone?

    Okay, I can think of Nina…but even SHE was a recurring character that came in and out…so idk. I can’t think of one.

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    hey mon

    Katherine is on twice a a month. Under MAB she was taking her son on every day, running Chancellor and McCall during his coma, manipulating her grandson later on, and at least we saw Murphy once in a while. Katherine was so integral under MAB, that when Cooper got ill, Michael Learned had to be brought in to take her place.

    I’ve already stated what has happened to poor Jessica Walton under JoshG & JFP. Came back once to bang Tucker, give Kay advice, and JoshG never once had Jill visit her son Billy.

    Red has gone from an every day player, to a bauble that appears on Jack’ shoulder once a week, or gives Summer advice.

    Even poor Gloria was at least somewhat integral to plotlines that were pertinent to Kevin and Michael. True, they stunk, and were ethnicist (the Venziano’s) and misguided (the realtor), but at least she was on twice a week.

    And Gen was just let go.

    What woman over 55, besides Nicole, is on more than just a token amount?

    But I really don’t care too much. I just miss the ‘Law and Order’ atmosphere that MAB created with Ronan. Hogan’s strange obsession with Adam — on every single day, talking evilly to the camera, being snarky with his dad and everyone else.

    And the divas were fun for once. Nikki wasn’t just a bitchy diva looking down on everyone. But a fun-loving drunk who married one week, and divorced the next! Jill and Gen were taking off their clothes at Jabot, on a desk, alternate weeks, to satisfy a 60-yr old man! Pretty cool stuff.

    Abby ran over Tucker. The 3 sibs got even with Victor. Need I say more?

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    Coffee_Junkie

    [quote=harlee490]ABSOLUTELY Stoney…this is Jess’s decision before the new team arrived…if she doesn’t want to what can you do…maybe bring back Brenda Dickson fulltime…hmmmm…if she played Jill like the “70s version Jill I’m all for it! ;)[/quote]

    WRONG.

    Prior to her leave of absence from the show, she signed a new contract that was to kick in UPON HER RETURN (she said this on her Facebook Wall). She was to return with Tristan Rogers. Then, MAB got canned. Just before Jess’ *return* last fall, she said on her Facebook page, “I spoke with JFP and hopefully we can work something out.” What was there to work out? She’d already signed a new contract with the show before she left. Well, obviously, the contract is no more, and JFP has put Jess Walton/Jill out to pasture. She probably would not have brought Walton back at ALL, if she thought she could get away with it.

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    yojoromo4469

    I personally miss Jill, but can live without her. As an over 30 year viewer of Y and R, the only soap my wife and I have ever watched, I am very unimpressed with all of the new actors and most of the lack of ability to act. Dylan is just horrible, with his blank look and stiff sour look. The NY cop is just plain crude and very unlikeable, Adriana should be anywhere, but on this show. Summer is mediocre at best. I could go on and on, but why bother, as no one from Y and R is going to read this, or do anything about it.

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    pferrando

    It was Jess Walton’s decision to work when she could. Can’t be blamed on either MAB or Jill.

    What I do say though is when she is available, they’ve pretty much wasted those moments. Surely even some stuff could be pretaped…

    Sorry, but loving Chavez…It’s too bad we lost Abby again, cuz they were hot together. Now we gotta hope it works with the newest HH actor.

    And although I love both Kevin and Chloe. NOT TOGETHER. When are we going to cut our losses with this one? It’s odd because Josh and Jill stopped stories that were working in their tracks, but this one is still plodding on. When either actor is in scenes with ANYONE else they rock them, but not with each other.

    And joy of all joy, the previews to tomorrow’s show have Carmine waiting sans shirt for Lauren. I wonder if this is when Michael finally finds out!

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    Coffee_Junkie

    [quote=pferrando]It was Jess Walton’s decision to work when she could. Can’t be blamed on either MAB or Jill. [/quote]

    Wrong again. They only want you to THINK that.

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    pferrando

    Maybe…

    I do usually believe what I read in SOD. Rarely does it conflict.

    But it is a shame and a waste since Jill is the ONLY original character left followed by Kay. USE that history. Bill always found a way to do so.

    Junkie, has Walton said anything to the contrary?

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    Coffee_Junkie

    [quote=pferrando]Maybe…I do usually believe what I read in SOD. Rarely does it conflict.But it is a shame and a waste since Jill is the ONLY original character left followed by Kay. USE that history. Bill always found a way to do so.Junkie, has Walton said anything to the contrary?[/quote]

    All I can say is she was really psyched at at the prospect of returning after her leave of absence (before MAB got canned). Then in Oct. when she returned she said it was for a “great storyline.” I must have missed it because I don’t recall her getting one. I guess she maybe was talking about Jill and Tucker but they had about three scenes together before Stephen Nichols up and left. I don’t think there were any plans to keep him once his contract came up. Besides they had to pay for King Burton, who started the day after Nichols left.

    Walton has not posted on her Facebook page now for many, MANY months. Something is going on. I think they made her a bunch of empty promises (as per usual) and are leaving viewers in the dark about her actual status with the show. No way is she recurring. They just want to give the impression that she is so that old school viewers keep hanging on. She’s more like a *special guest star.*

    I think if JFP and Co. WANTED to write for her, they would. But they are trying to give the impression that “their hands are tied because she lives so far away” which is just complete BULL. She made it pretty clear that she was psyched about returning for an ACTUAL storyline. They are not giving her that so now yeah–maybe she is making herself less available to them. Who could blame her? She’s been trounced on and trashed for years (with all the ridiculous rewrites).

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    pferrando

    Maybe, and I hope it’s not the case as she’s been an major part of the show, (and the character) forever.

    She was on again today, and it seemed like another wasted opportunity.

    I think you are right though. The ONLY way I see her with a story is if she once and for all gets a love interest that lasts for longer than a few episodes.

    I’d also like her out of the estate with her new man. The potential scenes with Kay and maybe Adriana could have more impact is she was a stand alone character again.

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    Coffee_Junkie

    [quote=pferrando]Maybe, and I hope it’s not the case as she’s been an major part of the show, (and the character) forever. She was on again today, and it seemed like another wasted opportunity. I think you are right though. The ONLY way I see her with a story is if she once and for all gets a love interest that lasts for longer than a few episodes. I’d also like her out of the estate with her new man. The potential scenes with Kay and maybe Adriana could have more impact is she was a stand alone character again.[/quote]

    The Governor/Senator guy would have been a good choice for Jill.

    If TPTB genuinely want to write REAL material for the Jill character, but say their “hands are tied because the actress is so inaccessible (claims I’ve seen them make on twitter) than why not recast the role?? Because they have NO INTEREST in writing for Jill, that’s why! It has nothing to do with Jess Walton’s geographical location. They had no interest in writing for her when she lived in LA, either.

    I don’t get it. What has Jess Walton done exactly to so royally piss off pretty much ALL of the writing regimes, except for Kay Alden and Jack Smith?

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    hey mon

    Tell it Coffee! Seeing Jill having an affair with Marcus would have been top-notch drama. The ol Jill gets involved with another crime-guy (Colin, Ji Minh, even Larry) could have even become another ‘sad sack’ story with her and Katherine, when Jill would have found out about Wheeler’s evil ways.

    Is there anything better than to pour a Vodka drink, pull up YouTube showing Jill in her glory, and sit back and watch?

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