All My Children and One Life to Live TOP The Charts; Plus My Thoughts on Their 2.0 Premiere Episodes



 




All My Children's premiere was also a solid effort. Unlike OLTL, however, AMC's pace was a bit meandering and the dialogue for the younger set needs freshening. While Dani and Co. sounded like actual, potty-mouthed young adults in fictional Llanview, PA., Miranda Montgomery's (the talented Denyse Tontz) high school locker chatter with hard-bodied AJ Chandler (Eric Nelsen) was a bit Saved By The Bell: The New Class, when it should be more Pretty Little Pine Valley Liars. I also didn't feel the constant, heavy-handed mentions of what happened "five years ago". I almost wanted to start a drinking game.

Where AMC's premiere beat OLTL's opener was in home and hearth. The incredible Jill Larson readily stepped back into the role of tentpole matriarch Opal Cortlandt. Larson's new, onscreen son Pete (Rob Wilson) was seemlessly folded into Pine Valley's storied, decades-old tapestry. The app mogul has that same mischievous twinkle in his eyes, that his big brother Tad had at his age. Because his mama loves him, so do we. That's how it works on the "stories".

It was great to see old friends like Jesse (Darnell Williams), Angie (Debbi Morgan), Dixie (Cady McClain), Brooke (Julia Barr) and Adam (David Canary), as well as newer acquaintances such as Drs. Griffin and Cara Castillo (Jordi Vilasuso and Lindsay Hartley). I predict things will get even more interesting now that dastardly Dr. David Hayward (Vincent Irizarry) has been sprung from jail and Cassandra Foster's (Sal Stowers) disappearance is somehow tied to casino boss Zach Slater (Thorsten Kaye).

What I am most anxious to see, though, is how Miranda's scenes with her beloved mother, Bianca (Eden Riegel) play out. I've long thought Bianca raising a teenage Miranda could be akin to Mona (the late Frances Heflin) rearing young adult hellcat Erica Kane (Susan Lucci). To find out if that'll be the case, I guess I'll just have to tune in, er, log on, tomorrow!

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great review Jamey. ITA with all said here.

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I liked both but liked OLTL better.

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OLTL was on FIRE! I love Dani as a hot mess! What the heck happened to make Matthew such a douchebag though? Melissa Archer(Natalie) looks amazing and I was feeling the vibes from her and Cutter. Bless her heart though, the dancing was BAD. I had NO idea about Trevor St John so when they showed him at the end I literally gasped out loud!!!

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Yeah, I thought OLTL was the better of the two and you're definitely spot-on regarding hooker-Destiny. Also, while Robert Gorrie is a promising young talent, didn't at all love Matthew-as-deadbeat-dad; that seemed somewhat out of left field to me.

LOL...so true about AMC and the whole "five years" thing. I agree with AJ...get past that shit already!

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As a first time viewer, I actually preferred AMC. It seems their fans are less vocal on here but in the end have the higher ranking on Hulu and iTunes.

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I liked AMC better than OLTL today. I didn't think the pace was meandering at all. I even think the scenes could be longer. Hate the jumping around all over the place--30 secs here 1 min there. It makes the stories very disjointed for me. The Angie/Jessie scene was nice because we actually got to spend some time with the characters. I don't care too much about the teen lingo being that accurate. I thought the actors playing Miranda & AJ were good--so I liked it. However, I agree that I would love to see the Erica/Mona thing played out with Bianca/Miranda. I think AMC made a huge mistake when they started doing all that Kane women sticking together business. They should have had Erica and Kendall at odds a lot of the time. Erica deserved the payback. They should have both worked at Enchantment and drove each other nuts --more stories in that than stupid Fusion. But, I digress

OLTL spent way too much time at the club. The music was too loud and it was hard to hear the dialogue. It was very distracting. Loved Corbin Bleu from the 1st scene at Vicki's. It helped that I could hear him in actual conversation. He looked familiar- but I haven't seen any of his work. I hope they don't just use Dorian for comic relief. I want to see some of the more evil Dorian back.

I know they want to attract a young audience and that's fine. But, I think TPTB need to be mindful that a lot of the audience who have been fighting to save these shows are probably 40 and over. Don't alienate them. (The BJ thing might have been a little much.) Fusion & Confusion was a big problem on AMC. So, I have bad feelings about Shelter already. However--Todd's line Gimme Shelter was awesome!!!

Just hoping the stories are character driven and they keep in mind that soaps work best with multi-generational story telling. Don't make the same mistakes that a lot of tv soaps did going just for the younger audience. I know it's online--but my mother is 78 and she is always on the computer.
Thrilled these two shows are back and hope they kick ass in hulu/itunes views!

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IA with most of your post, Jamey. AMC did have that "home and hearth" feel. I'm glad they showcased Opal, something that hadn't been done in years. Look what a talented actress can do if given half a chance to shine.

I gasped when I saw Victor at the end of OLTL. Finally! Who was he struggling with? What's with the symbol? Why is it on Todd's card? A cliffhanger on the first show. As Phil says on Duck Dynasty, I'm happy happy happy.

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i hope there are more nudity & bj scenes on the shows tbh!

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I definitely agree with your takes on both shows. I found the dialogue on OLTL fresher and current while AMC has a lot of catching up to do with its young set to get them to sound like a modern kids as opposed to the "did you see that? The football jock actually spoke to me!" He said hi

And am I the only one to find petey picking up a girl he thought was in high school when he is well over 2" or so? Sure he is tad-lite but that creeped me out even if she turned out... Maybe... To be over 18.

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I couldn't agree more on the OLTL parts! It was stylish, sleek, modern - YET not too modern. I for one found the club scenes surprisingly well done. The dancing was a bit too much, but still. The loud music was realistic and thus did not bother me.

Haven't watched AMC yet (not decided if I will start to follow them at all).

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Loved both shows., Wrotew a better review but Dc is over crowded. OLTL was fun to watch sexy and yada yada...Love new Matthew and Destiny. Corbin is a great add on.

AMC was fun I like the mystery angel they are going after. I wish Miranda was more of a Blair Waldorf type character. She is the grandchild of Ms. Erica Kane. AJ should of been the Nate of AMC. But still I loved seeing Brooke, Adam, Angie, Jessie back on my screen. I can't wait for more.

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Well done, Jamey. I hadn't thought of the Mona/Erica similarity to Bianca/Miranda. That will be interesting to see.

But I have to be super critical and point out that Prospect Park has had these two properties in development for going on two years, spent millions of dollars to acquire them, more to get them up and running, promoted them to the heavens and beyond... and this is what we got? I know the reported $80,000 per episode budget is low by Hollywood standards but it's not chump change either when you're producing 26 minutes of content. All this considered, I'm disappointed in the premiere episodes and would revise my grade to the public school description of a D- "needs improvement."

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pjc722 wrote:
And am I the only one to find petey picking up a girl he thought was in high school when he is well over 2" or so? Sure he is tad-lite but that creeped me out even if she turned out... Maybe... To be over 18.

You're not alone! It was really pervy, especially that he's decided to stay in PV now that he met... um... what was her name? Britney? Something tells me she is in high school...

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AMC was in a way more coherent (traditional?) on one hand, but not as good as OLTL. It must be the lack of loud music on AMC, it was very distracting on OLTL. THe chase scenes were confusing and sloppy. But overall , I would watch again- but then OLTL was my fav anyway. I hope they can catch some lightning again.It may take another month of shows for them to really get cooking...

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I wish they would make AJ gay or at least bi and he and Miranda could both chase after the football player..... That would be interesting. Since they are besties and all.... They kind of remind me of young Sami and Lucas on Days in that they have chemistry but it is the friend type. Having watched two eps so far, I am still liking AMC better. They are not rushing their set ups and we are getting to know the characters again in this new format.
On OLTL it feels rushed and forced. Victor's back. But where he has been isn't important? Just that he is there...... Slow down a little and make something of the situation. The club scene is still forced and fakey. I felt like the patrons that weren't aloud to leave by the bouncers. Oh and someone o'ds at the bar so get everyone to stay by pouring more drinks! Yeah that's a great idea. And does it really matter if one sold the o'd kid the drugs or not if one is dealing drugs? The distinction is lost to me..... And no Blair. No one was doing drugs at your night club. They also weren't getting drunk, picking up one night stands or getting blow jobs in the back room.....
This is Llanview after all. Those things don't happen there!

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Just watched the 2nd episode of AMC and I'm hyped up and in about month when the stories start to gel, AMC is more traditional in style and this younger cast Miranda & AJ is impressive I must say....the wait & see on the others but liking Pete...woof Evil I'm with Mark it would be wonderful if AJ is questioning his sexuality and JR is the one that has a problem not Adam or Brooke...

With Zach & his casinos could bring a lot of unsavory element to show and story...just don't know why they can't recast Kendall, even divorced with Spike & Ian getting older and I think we will see Gabi later...It's back! Big smile

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I'm so happy to have both shows back. I enjoyed OLTL a little more probably because they had more familiar faces than newbies (Nigel was a nice touch). Victor showing up was awesome and I hope he sticks around. Love how Jack embraced Victor (the dad he grew up with). I just pray the fan support continues for both shows.

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@pferrando, marknsprmo & Harlee: We have the same taste in soaps. Y&R and AMC. We're soap conservatives Wink. We like traditional soaps.

Not a fan of Cartinicare Wink!

Jamey and them is Soapgressives! Smile

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Jamey and them is Soapgressives!
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I like various kinds of soap opera, from fine wine like The Good Wife to high camp like Melrose Place. I simply believe there is room for both. Every soap isn't supposed to be Bill Bell's Y&R, nor should evil twins and doppelgangers ever have descended on Agnes Nixon's Pine Valley.

Classic, traditional soaps have their place, but so do over-the-top ones. GH was watched by more viewers than had ever or WILL ever watch soaps when it was telling one over-the-top story after another.

DAYS captured the popular culture zeitgeist and pulled itself out of the ratings basement by going over the top, when its competitors were blaming O.J. for the death of not just Ron and Nicole, but of soaps.

Oh and it should be noted that even Mama Agnes herself went over-the-top when she had a dude sell his soul to th Devil on Loving, long before Marlena was levitating. Wink

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David, yes, you have me figured out pretty well. Having watched Y and R since the late 70's, I've always gone for drama and character.

I was a huge fan of Bill Bell's Days stories as well, and my next fav writer is Douglas Marland. ATWT was its best under him. Also liked his work on GL.

I do appreciate that the online soaps are trying to break some new ground. I'd love to see how Bill Bell and team would have "modernized" his shows today.

I can guarantee that some of the production would be different, but there would still be solid character driven drama.

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Jamey...I agree to an extent, but after a while "over the top" doesn't sustain the ratings. Look how quickly GH went from #1 in the late 70's and then shed millions of viewers when people tired of that type of story telling. IMO, that's why Y and R replaced GH at the top in the late 80's and it's been there ever since.

We know it's suffered since Bill and team left or were replaced.

But you are right. There is an audience for many types of soap. One is neither good nor bad. I hope the online reboots explore some new territory...but good writing is key.

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I will say this much about OLTL's Shelter: At least it looks more like what a real-life nightclub looks like than what we normally get on daytime soaps, including that dreary lounge passing for Nick's hot nightclub on Y&R.

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I can appreciate that these writers want to write a more realistic style of storytelling. One of my all time favorite eras of all that I've seen is the ATWT 1980s years which I think was and remains highly underrated.

I only began to consistently watch OLTL and AMC about a year and some change before their ABC cancellations so in soap terms, I am speaking as a relative newcomer to these shows.

JMO but AMC had a somewhat stronger debut episode (despite a clunky opening) but OLTL's second episode was very strong-- good character and storyline balance, almost all of the characters were firing on all cyclinders, especially the great interaction between Dorian and Viki.
And I like OLTL's opening theme even better with the second viewing.

Good possibilities and great potential for both shows.
I anticipate storylines will shape up, some of the less experienced actors will begin to hit their marks with more consistency and these shows will get in a consistent groove while leaving room for surprise.

And a Side Note, that HD looks BEAUTIFUL on my Monster Gaming Laptop!

I'm used to the awful graphic distortion that I get while watching Y&R on the CBS.com site but AMC and OLTL have been CRYSTAL CLEAR on Hulu.

Y&R could learn from them on how to present your show online.

What a difference a show makes!

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@Jamey Giddens: Thanks Jamey no filibusterer's coming! Smile

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@pferrando I am a huge fan of Bill Bell, though I didn't come to really connect with his style of soap writing until it was almost too late. I've watched Y&R my entire life, just like DAYS, but I was admittedly bored by Y&R in the 80's. It was more my grandparents soap, that I sat through impatiently until DAYS, Another World and Santa Barbara came on.

I preferred the more romance novel quality of DAYS and SB with Bo and Hope or Cruz and Eden fighting mad men, going off to exotic locals, making love set to popular music.

Y&R's dialogue under Bill Bell was always so stiff for me. I felt vindicated in this belief, when I read in the Bill Bell bio that Irna Phillips felt he was great at long story, but not dialogue. I said the same thing to my grandmother about Y&R as a 12-year-old boy LOL.

Everyone in Genoa City sounded just alike. They all spoke so formally, even the maid, saying things like her "former husband" and the like. I adored the dialogue on Agnes Nixon's soaps by comparison.

I didn't really come to appreciate Bill's approach until he was replaced, then it was evident just how good Y&R had it under him.

Plus, I think the older I became, the more I came to like more sophisticated soap operas, yet I never lost my affinity for escapism.

My favorite era of any soap was Another World from the late 80's to mid 90's, when there was rarely any over the top storytelling. I was obsessed with the dysfunctional, social climbing Love-Hudsons, the earnest Frames and the rich, regal Corys.

I was later almost equally hooked on James Reilly's bat shit crazy reimaging of DAYS. From Buried Alive through Kristen and her doppelgangers, I was proudly obsessed with DAYS — and so was every other teenager and college student I knew.

That didn't mean I didn't find time to adore Erica Kane's druggie meltdown at the Woman of the Year event on AMC. I didn't see a need to choose, nor to see one as superior over the other.

I love various styles of soaps, and GH was at the top of the ratings from the late 70's through 88 (It tied with Y&R the first year of it toping the Nielsens), I'd say those ratings were pretty well sustained.

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I liked that Natalie got her own place to live now that she has a kid, even though she apparently has to get dressed and sleep in the living room? I'm so happy that they got away from having everybody live at the hotel.

I liked that people use fowl language and the tone was bit sexier than when it was on in the daytime.

I totally liked the length of the shows - we all made fun of Chris Goutman when he suggested that the shows scale back to 30 minutes three times a week - but it seems to fit well with my viewing habits

Finally - KUDOS - to Tuc Watson for coming out on The Marie Show today. It was ignored due to the Jason Collins news but still important. We all knew that there are gay basketball players but gay soap actors - shocking!!!! (lol). Of course, I am just kidding, everyone that comes out helps, so I am grateful to Tuc and I'm happy that the return of OLTL allowed it to happen.

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I was overcome when I saw on my screen once again: Created by Agnes Nixon.

Beer

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OH great discussion guys....Jamey The Good Wife is the shiz! Sunday's episode! Shock One you forgot one prime-time show I know you like from your mentions...Downton Abby Love I get what you're saying and I do think its what you was raised on growing up besides Another World our house was CBS which is more traditional in their soaps...most times not discounting the horrible cloning...Kim saved that story and how she made "Dolly"...ugh but that is Paul R's soap style.

Hey there are different type of soaps which is good for genre, networks all had their flavor in the day Love

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Having lots of trouble with the streaming on Hulu standard this morning. Four times trying to watch OLTL it simply doesn't come back after the commercials, and I have to refresh the page and try to find my spot again. HULU, are you ready for prime time or NOT?

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pferrando wrote:
Jamey...I agree to an extent, but after a while "over the top" doesn't sustain the ratings. Look how quickly GH went from #1 in the late 70's and then shed millions of viewers when people tired of that type of story telling. IMO, that's why Y and R replaced GH at the top in the late 80's and it's been there ever since.

pferrando, I understand what you are saying here. But I don't think it can be said that one type of style makes or breaks the ratings. Yes, I'm sure there are many reasons why Y&R has been number 1, but I don't think you can just chalk it up to a soap's style like that.

Also, I don't see it accurate as to talk about Y&R as a certain kind of soap, like it has always been that way. The same way it cannot be said about GH, that it has always been a "certain" kind of soap. GH hasn't always had people freezing the world, and Y&R hasn't always only had socially-driven drama. They have both seen different times throughout the years. I'm sure there are many things that affect a soap's popularity or lack thereof.