Prospect Park on FX Canada Cutting All My Children and One Life to Live: "The Agreement is No Longer Valid"






A spokesperson for Prospect Park has elaborated on FX Canada cancelling airings of All My Children and One Life to Live, following the production company's decision to cut their number of weekly episodes in half.  Said the PR rep to ABC Soaps In Depth:

"The terms of the F/X Canada deal stipulated a five day run," a rep for Prospect Park told Soaps In Depth. "Now that the shows have been reduced, the agreement is no longer valid. However, the great news is that Canadian viewers can now access the shows via iTunes Canada."


As previously reported, Canadian soap fans can download episodes of AMC and OLTL via iTunes Canada.


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my predictions are coming true.

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The_Moustache wrote:
my predictions are coming true.

You should be very proud of yourself. Maybe now you can move on to your next "gloom and doom" predictions. Us die hard delusional fans will continue to watch until the very end, whether it's a month from now or a year from now.

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And now no other television channel worldwide is going into business with these people because they can't deliver. If you have someone on your hand like FX Canada, you make it work and don't change the whole idea about the schedule of these shows.

It's just not professional and sets this project up to fail. Prospect Park is trying but you can't fully try if you don't have the energy or money... just very telling.

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All shows end eventually. Going into this I was just happy to get additional chapters to the stories and the true gem has been AMC. I hated that show for years at the end, Broderick aside, and the current team has really rehabbed that brand for me. It's Saved By The Bell at times, but I can take that to being completely bored.

I will say that Prospect Park did not learn their lesson from a year ago. They need to really set expectations properly. It just seems like business 101 to under promise and over deliver than over promise and under deliver. When they initially said they were going to produce shows to launch immediately after they went off the air on ABC, they should have just said "stay tuned" and if they should have started their launch with one show a week and ramped that up once successful then it would appear better than retrenching. Plus, I didn't get the business sense to launch during May sweeps when eyes are getting pulled everywhere else. That's part of the reason I am so behind.

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I'm just happy that it's on the air and way, shape or form. It's better than nothing. I wish both shows had a few less kids, but they're trying to get that 18-39 demo (which makes no sense to me because I didn't have two nickels to rub together most of those ages) but so be it. I'd rather they do slow and steady than too much all at once.

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I think Prospect Park is really making a bad name for themselves.

As for FX, it's just business.

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All I hear everywhere is "I'm just so happy this is on, whatever form". But people can'r see just who unviable this thing is? These people are in a legal dispute with ABC, have left Hulu in a sucky position with all of the people who signed up for Hulu+, have lost major revenue from FX Canada and are reducing traffic for new shows by 50%. The big magical hope is that all of the people who couldn't catch up with 20 online episodes will all start watching the missed eps and catch up, all the while saying that each episode must hit 500,000 hits a day to turn a profit, after advertising "TV anytime".
It is a recipe for disaster.

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This makes a lot of sense actually...less episodes nullifies the deal/agreement. The cutting back won't really take away from the quality of AMC, it's OLTL I am more worried about.

PP REALLY needs a new PR person.

Sorry Canadian fans!

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I'm not here to rain on the parade of these two shows, but PP's roll back of showing only two episodes per week has doomed these shows. I would have gone to F/X Canada and proposed rotating episodes on a 2/3 basis. That way they could have a specific time slot on their network to show either program and keep distribution. One week have two episodes of AMC and three of OLTL. The next week it would be three of AMC and two of OLTL. They aren't a dependable supplier and that is poison in the world of media.

I'd say they'll be lucky to be around by the end of the year. I hope I'm wrong, but I fear that I'm not.

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Uhhh doom & Gloom how about just be grateful you can watch your soaps again. But I guess some just like the look and sound of negativity

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These shows will be gone by the end of the year.

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Marland Fan wrote:
These shows will be gone by the end of the year.

No one is forcing to watch them. But if ur a fan and saying that, its just sad. How bout supporting the shows insted of planning their funeral

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It makes sense from FX's perspective, but what it tells me is that they bit off more than they could chew with the TV deal. They should have focused online only at first, which gives them more flexibility to make changes.

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i think PP just wanted a place for Canadians to watch but now they Itunes CA

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appleridge wrote:
i think PP just wanted a place for Canadians to watch but now they Itunes CA

I agree. I think the sentiment was appropriate. US viewers could watch on Hulu for free, but CA viewers didn't have that option, so the deal with FX was created. I still think they bit off more than they could chew...and it seems to be a habit, but just like I give RC some slack with his writing due to the love of the genre, I give PP some slack because they are entering unchartered territory to save soaps.

Even if this fails, there is still a viable blueprint for another group with solid funding to take a stab and learn from what has happened here. That new group will go in with more information than PP did when they started.

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gjr1969 wrote:
All I hear everywhere is "I'm just so happy this is on, whatever form". But people can'r see just who unviable this thing is? These people are in a legal dispute with ABC, have left Hulu in a sucky position with all of the people who signed up for Hulu+, have lost major revenue from FX Canada and are reducing traffic for new shows by 50%. The big magical hope is that all of the people who couldn't catch up with 20 online episodes will all start watching the missed eps and catch up, all the while saying that each episode must hit 500,000 hits a day to turn a profit, after advertising "TV anytime".
It is a recipe for disaster.

Prospect Park has to learn that you MUST spend money to make money. They need to deliver on their original promise of 5 epis a week (even if it puts them into debt for awhile) because now they completely lost the revenue from FX Canada and that was dumb move.

Hulu and Apple profited on those signed up for service, and in turn have become de facto sponsors of the show (Macs and iPhones everywhere on these shows - I assume Apple is paying for that type of exposure; and Hulu has been advertising the brands non-stop to the benefit of both PP and themselves).I wonder if they will now lose revenue from Apple? Half as much exposure for their products means less product placement revenue.

If they were smart, they would film all 110 episodes right now, regardless of when they air. Connecticut is a nasty place to visit and an even nastier place to live in the fall and winter. Last season they had a blizzard that deposited over 3 feet of snow in February. Its no wonder Kristen Alderson, a Philly native living in sunny LA, didn't want to make the trip. Get actors to go out to CT in the late spring and summer - the only time New England is tolerable - to get more stars to film episodes of the series. Do what you can PP before you run out of money!!

YOU MUST SPEND MONEY TO MAKE PROFIT! PP should have bit some bullets in the interim. I DO agree with the post above that they should have under-promised and over-delivered - that's Business 101.

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Wasn't it a part of PP's licensing agreement with ABC that the shows had to continue in a five day a week format?

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They renegoiated that when they did the loan to ABC the OLTL roles

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Its not a money issue its the issue that they couldnt get enough episodes in the can. So they cut the episode order. They are spending Money. They are spending 18 hours filming up to 156 pages daily. How about do some research before posting LIES as FACTS

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Stay Tuned!

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So you're a psychic? I call bullshit! We've been told from the beginning that the shows would be a different format than regular soaps. They are pushing for a more primetime feel and it shows. Take your negativity and shove it.

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@ The_Moustache, I really wish you'd piss off! Take your negativity and sarcasm and stick it up your ass!

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PP has made nothing from mistakes from the start, perhaps to the point when it cannot be fixable now:
- They let the 3 stars go to GH without apparently thinking what would happen to the stars/actors in the future
- They engage in these disputes/lawsuits with ABC, even though ABC is partly at fault, when they should be cross-promoting, doing crossovers etc. They should have drooled at the possibility that Todd Manning could take interested viewers back and forth from GH
- They set up shop, start building sets, start writing and filming within days. So the writers/producers/crew were stretched to the breaking point from day 1. Susie Bedson Horgsan quit and I can see why - Writers sometimes worked until 4 am!
- Unrealistic expectations: Any of us here could have told them a) Not all people watch both shows and b) People will, indeed, watch at different times. If their pricing model is built on something else, it will fail.
- The actors will have more time off, but also get paid in about twice the time. If I were an actor considering giving up other projects for PP, I'd think twice.
- You can always add. People are pissed if you take away, especially after 2 weeks. Plus, many would let OLTL or AMC just run after watching their episode. Not happening now.
- They broke major contractual violations within 2 weeks of existence and ailenated many Canadian fans
- Alienated all who bought Hulu+ and Hulu itself

Can someone tell me how I'm supposed to be confident? And it is not gloom and doom - this is a business. It was killed by a decade of Frons' mismanagement. We don't want AMC and OLTL to meet the same fate.

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You should support because U love the shows. Its that plain & Simple. No one here knows what is going on at the studio. We know from social media the actors and crew are behind this,

This is year one and adjustments are to be made and expected

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appleridge wrote:
You should support because U love the shows. Its that plain & Simple. No one here knows what is going on at the studio. We know from social media the actors and crew are behind this,

This is year one and adjustments are to me made and expected

#Co-sign...Couldn't have said it better myself! I don't know what will happen, and I don't really care, all I know is that I am going to support and enjoy them regardless of what happens.

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@gjr1969 - I see your point, but I dunno, maybe confidence isn't the right term. We are talking about a group of producers bring a daily serial into a medium for the first time ever. I think we are expecting too much if we want perfection the first time around. You are correct, it is a business, and I can't think of one business that went perfectly the first time it broke new ground.

I think there are a lot of unrealistic expectations going around.

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Canadian viewers are getting the short end of the stick here. Yes it's only $9.99 on itunes for 20 episodes but it's for only one show. So if you want a multi-pass both OLTL and AMC it will be $20. Also not every OLTL and AMC episode (since the re launch) has be worth the watch. For the Canadian viewers that will pay per episode they are going very picky on which one they purchase.

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LOL @ The_Moustache I can't with you!

I did buy the multi-pass on iTunes recently because my service provider doesn't offer FX, if ITunes doesn't lower the price for two episodes a week I won't renew my multipass. I don't think it's fair that we have to pay in Canada and in the US it's free. We still love our soaps too here in Canada and we should have similar access.