HomeTVAll My ChildrenBREAKING NEWS: Agnes Nixon Reveals MAJOR Head Writer Changes at One Life to Live and All My Children! Jamey Giddens May 24, 2013 All My Children, General Hospital, Prospect Park, The Online Network, TOLN 91 Comments The behind-the-scenes shakeups keep coming for the new versions of All My Children and One Life to Live. Series creator Agnes Nixon has issued a statement revealing Chip Hayes and Lisa Connor are the new co-head writers of All My Children; while Jessica Klein and Marin Gazzaniga will now lead the writers' room at One Life to Live. Marlene McPherson initially served as co-head writer for Prospect Park's new version of AMC, alongside Elizabeth Snyder. Thom Racina had been the sole head writer of OLTL, since the exit of Susie Bedsow Horgan. See Nixon's full statement below: It is now my pleasure to announce that the future stories involving the lives of All My Children's beloved characters are from now on in the capable hands of the co-head writers Lisa Connor and Chip Hayes, both of whom have a long and stellar history with our program. Lisa Connor collaborated with me on the final draft of the All My Children Twenty – Fifth Anniversary Family Album. For two years she also served as a line producer of the program and was creatively involved in plotting and writing daily episodes since 2002. In addition to his six years as a producer on Melrose Place, Chip Hayes in 2003, became a vital member of those devising the ongoing drama of All My Children. He remains in this crucial work through its incarnation on the internet. I agree with Prospect Park's decision to replace the head writing team for All My Children. However, I particularly want to thank Marlene McPherson and Elizabeth Snyder for their incredibly positive dedication to the show and their constant helpful attitude during many long hours of intense work. It is greatly appreciated. Agnes Nixon Prospect Park issued the following statement about the changes: We are excited for the opportunity to put the lives of our characters in the capable hands of the new writing staff,” said Prospect Park in a statement. “We appreciate their commitment to great storytelling that will build upon an already solid foundation for the residents of Llanview and Pine Valley.” 91 Responses njtaurian May 24, 2013 I’m curious because the shows have been back for a month now and a lot of changes are taking place. Perhaps this is all in response to viewer feedback? Either way, being the true diehard fan that I am, I’m still on board for the longhaul! Log in to Reply Restless Fan May 24, 2013 I can’t say I have really watched the online versions. Just saw the first few shows. If things are not working I applaud them for making the necessary changes quickly. The network soaps could learn from that. I’d like to see a qualified co-HW get hired at Y&R. Preferably someone who knows the show. I’d also like to see a different EP. Again preferably someone who knows the show (paging Ed Scott, David Shaughnessy) . In any event it sounds like the online versions are doing well in spite of the writing shake-ups. I see a lot of positive twitter chatter from both fans and critics alike. Good for them. Coming back with a vengeance. Log in to Reply Katiebug9624 May 24, 2013 Maybe they actually are listening to viewer feedback? I have actually kinda enjoyed AMC but OLTL has been missing the beats and AMC has been great for vets but not the younger cast. Log in to Reply appleridge May 24, 2013 Im Lovin Marin & Jessica’s scripts for OLTL when they write episodes. Lisa & Chip have a long history with AMC. I feel this will be great for both soaps. Log in to Reply zanefan May 24, 2013 In the words of virtually every tween on these shows: “What the shitty shit is going on? Shit!” Log in to Reply Scout May 24, 2013 Seems like these shows are going through major growing pains; it’s to be expected. Log in to Reply katehhoward May 24, 2013 All of these changes and release statements have caused me to tune out. I love the shows but with every week something coming out about the behind the scenes problems I do not feel like investing into these shows and then having them pulled right off again. I wish I could feel positive about these happenings but I am worried. I think they should really have some of the actors come on and confirm with fans that the shows are here to stay. If Susan Lucci returns to AMC that will be the sign that the shows will stay on. Log in to Reply J Bernard Jones May 24, 2013 Scout wrote Seems like these shows are going through major growing pains; it’s to be expected. We have a winner folks! ….but….there is very likely….more than meets the eye….viewer feedback is probably a TINY — quite tiny — part of this equation….and so it goes… Log in to Reply Camp is not a sustainable model May 24, 2013 @Jamey Giddens: The changes were needed especially at OLTL because Thom Racina was just not cutting it nor was that of his former co-headwriter. They have a template for a soap, but writing a show is just problematic. Here is a recap of the issues I have previously posted: When I look at both All My Children and One Life To Live for this week, again I have to give it to AMC. Things are really moving full speed ahead. I kind of makes you wish you had more of episodes or longer. The Sex Trafficking stryline has been the lead. And Debbie and Darnell are working their asses off. The secondary story of JR’s having to deal with the past post-coma is also good. And while the other stories are in various stages of development (like they should be), it is overall good. Yet, when it comes to OLTL, all the stories seem to be in their first stages. And this week was especially uninteresting. I seemingly watched a lot people talk about a lot of other people, talk about each other and talk to each other. There wasn’t much excitement in the mix either. There should be at least one leading storyline that equals what is going-on on AMC. But there’s none. The Todd/Victor feud falls flat because Victor is not even there to spice things up. And the focus on “Victor” and the tattoo on the dead body doesn’t work either because we all know he is not dead. So even exploring comes up as lazy writing. I like that Vicki is having a crisis with running The Banner in the digital age. That is timely and relates to what is happening in the newspaper industry all around. But the crisis does not feel real enough. To make the idea of Vicki having to lay long-time staff members off that would cause such a conundrum, The Banner would have to be in state where she is going to have to declare bankruptcy on a principle loan from the past that kept the news organization afloat during the 2008 recession. Something is needed though to make me connect more with it. When it comes to Dani and Matthew it is as if the writers have clearly decided to alienate these two characters from the rest of the cast. Especially their parents and family members, just to try and push that they want the audience to view them as a future couple. And yet on AMC Pete/Celia and AJ/Miranda are anchored by their families. For Pete/Celia you have opal meddling in the life of her son and Evelyn in the life of Celia (thought she is no relation). For AJ/Miranda you have AJ dealing with the return of his father JR and Miranda being of support to him. Then you have Miranda dealing with her teenage issues and having AJ and her mother Bianca supporting her. So there is definitely multi-generational story telling going on there. So with OLTL I need to feel and see a connection between the characters, along with more multi-generational family storytelling and a bit more realism. Also I might need to add that this show started with Dani overdosing on drugs and since then she has not even taken another hit? This from a young woman who was to supposedly have fallen off the track due to her mother’s distance from her and the loss of her dad. It appears to me from a writing and storytelling standpoint that Dani should be struggling more with drugs and having Matthew trying to save her as the source of what would draw them together. She should be a walking-talking bitch of an addict who goes through all the stages of addiction and would lead to an intervention of sorts. That is how this story should be told. Think of it as OLTL’s version of Lindsay Lohan with a dash of Brittany Spears. I mean as a writer, and thinking in contemporary terms, that would work much better than this cookie cutter island pre-romance with curse words to make it sound hip and youthful. So if you are going to go there than take it allllllllllll the way! Log in to Reply bishbay May 24, 2013 PP is a M-E-S-S. They are telegraphing desperation even if that’s not what they’re feeling. Such a shame. Log in to Reply Katiebug9624 May 24, 2013 Can’t we all agree that at least its not Dena Higley or Ellen Wheeler? Log in to Reply appleridge May 24, 2013 Promoting within means they trust the writers at the shoews. A desperate move would be new writers all around. Log in to Reply appleridge May 24, 2013 Ok so fans bitched for years that daytime soaps took too long to replace writers. So when PP does it within the first 3 months, they are rushing it & being desperate??? WTF fans, which one is it? Can’t be both. SMH!!! Log in to Reply mfarris70 May 24, 2013 Glory glory hallelujah! Glas to see that PP and Agnes Nixon took quick and decisive action before the shows went down to the murky deep. As it is they both need a lot of repair before they are see-worthy again. Log in to Reply bishbay May 24, 2013 Appleridge, they cut their episode order by 1/3 and now have replaced their writers in the space of one week not even a month after launch. Perhaps I’m being a bit traditionalist but that bespeaks real issues to me. Also, they were getting generally good feedback on the writing so far for both programs, so it’s really not clear how the writers were the issue here. I’m calling a spade a spade. Log in to Reply Luke Kerr May 24, 2013 [quote=Katiebug9624]Can’t we all agree that at least its not Dena Higley or Ellen Wheeler?[/quote] #AMEN Log in to Reply mfarris70 May 24, 2013 I would argue the idea that the shows were getting good feedback on their writing. The soap press has gone along with the illusion and has barely uttered a word about the fact that both shows don’t measure up to their former selves or even to a lot of other online shows. There are a lot of dissatisfied fans and I’m sure that the viewership numbers reflect that. Log in to Reply appleridge May 24, 2013 [quote=bishbay]Appleridge, they cut their episode order by 1/3 and now have replaced their writers in the space of one week not even a month after launch. Perhaps I’m being a bit traditionalist but that bespeaks real issues to me. Also, they were getting generally good feedback on the writing so far for both programs, so it’s really not clear how the writers were the issue here. I’m calling a spade a spade.[/quote] PP promoted within on the two shows. That is not a desperate move. That is smart IMO & will be a smooth transition. Plus the people whose writing u have liked on both shows are now those shows HW’s Log in to Reply bishbay May 24, 2013 mfarris, you may be correct–I was judging by the mixed but generally positive response on here and on a couple of other boards I read. That may or may not correlate with larger response. Nonetheless, they’re not projecting stability. I get an image of people running around with their hair on fire in CT. appleridge, if you don’t or won’t accept the bigger picture that’s being painted about the PP operation by these changes, I can’t make you. I’ll add that hiding behind Nixon’s skirts on the AMC announcement wasn’t cute. Log in to Reply appleridge May 24, 2013 [quote=bishbay] appleridge, if you don’t or won’t accept the bigger picture that’s being painted about the PP operation by these changes, I can’t make you. I’ll add that hiding behind Nixon’s skirts on the AMC announcement wasn’t cute.[/quote] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ How do U know Agnes wasnt in on making the changes? PP did make a statement as well or did u just chose to ignore that part. Why dont u just take a break from your PP negativity for a least a day. it may do ur personality wonders. Log in to Reply appleridge May 24, 2013 [quote=Ryan-Scott]Just listen to whatever Agnes tells you and listen well is all I have to say to these two coming in.[/quote] Yes. The writers were already on staff. Well there is a new scriptwriter for OLTL named Jed Log in to Reply aveRex May 24, 2013 My take is that people are a bit over-critical about the storyline on the shows. They are pure entertainment, not some masterpieces of drama. What will happen is the shows will go away again for good, and it will be because people expected them to be much more than they could live up to. All soaps are dumb–that’s just the facts. I watch for the entertainment they provide and nothing else. AMC and OLTL will go away once again because people are never satisfied. And when that happens, it will be final. My suggestion is to lighten up and enjoy it as it is. Log in to Reply blake3b May 24, 2013 This is great that PP cares to fix what’s wrong on their shows instead of letting them keep do so-so. I think it’s a good sign, especially after the the episode drop! Log in to Reply Ryan-Scott May 24, 2013 Just listen to whatever Agnes tells you and listen well is all I have to say to these two pairs coming into this position. Log in to Reply MsAgentProvocateur1 May 24, 2013 Well, we’re definitely not in Daytime Soapland, folks. These PP folks believe in ripping that band-aid right off! No lingering. If only Y&R had employed this strategy, MAB wouldn’t have been around to inflict damage the likes Y&R is still trying to get out from under. Good luck to them in finding the right combination with these incarnations. Log in to Reply mfarris70 May 24, 2013 Keeping quiet about our opinions and “just be happy” that the shows are on is really stupid advice. Log in to Reply bishbay May 24, 2013 Translation of appleridge: Shut up and clap louder!!!!!!!!!!!!! By the way, appleridge, this is the first time I’ve been negative about PP. It sounds like you’re the one who needs to take a break, dear, since you’re screaming at shadows. Log in to Reply watcher5000 May 24, 2013 Actually, Jill Larson, Cady McClain and Vincent Irizarry have all posted on their Facebook pages that the shows are going strong. The changes in broadcast schedule and now the writing teams are an effort to improve the quality of the shows. I know they seem like knee jerk reactions, but they are actually responding to what does not work. The networks ignored all of the warning signs and refused to address what was going wrong until it was too late. They seem to be listening to what the viewers are saying about the quality of the writing and doing something about it. Perhaps the initial writing teams were brought on just to get the shows off the ground until they could find suitable people. The only downside I see is that since they have already completed five weeks of shooting, we won’t see any storyline changes for SEVERAL months with only two shows airing each week. Also, we as fans can’t give up watching them because we are afraid to invest in them in case they get cancelled. If we stop watching, then we have have GUARANTEED that they will get cancelled. Log in to Reply mfarris70 May 24, 2013 [quote=watcher5000]Also, we as fans can’t give up watching them because we are afraid to invest in them in case they get cancelled. If we stop watching, then we have have GUARANTEED that they will get cancelled.[/quote] You’re absolutely right! But we soap fans tend to be a fickle bunch so these new writers better get moving! Log in to Reply appleridge May 24, 2013 Susan not coming back wont kill AMC. Erica IMO has been so played out. Maybe not played out. But ABC did over play her. I for one am enjoying the Erica break. However am interested in what’s in store when Erica does return. Log in to Reply zanefan May 24, 2013 This actually all reminds me a lot of the stuff that went on with MyNetworkTV’s attempts at telenovelas a few years back. There was lots of talk about how it was going to revolutionize the way people watched soaps. Lots of pomp and circumstance. Then the shows debuted, and the quality varied between meh and awful. Within a few months, they were cut back to twice a week, then once a week. Then projects that had been announced never aired. Then they just disappeared without a trace. Hopefully PP can avoid the same path. Log in to Reply NORN23 May 24, 2013 It seems like they wouldn’t bother replacing the writers if they weren’t earnestly trying to make a go of it. So this gives me hope that they aren’t just throwing in the towel! Log in to Reply pferrando May 24, 2013 Personally I don’t think it’s good news at all. PP seems to be having some major issues, and they had forever to plan this reboot. New writers already? For new viewers like myself, I don’t know if what I’m seeing is good or bad regarding the history of the show. I do know that really none of the stories excites me or are cutting edge as was promised since they’d be online and could push boundaries. What’s been pushed really? You can’t have a constant rotation of staff. It won’t work. Log in to Reply appleridge May 24, 2013 These are writers that have been there since the shows started writing back In January. Its just some of those writers were promoted to new positions. Log in to Reply zanefan May 24, 2013 [quote=pferrando] I do know that really none of the stories excites me or are cutting edge as was promised since they’d be online and could push boundaries. What’s been pushed really? [/quote] I agree whole heartedly with this. As much as I love both of these shows and as glad as I am to have them back, there were some missed opportunities here to really make the shows more modern (WITHOUT losing the heart and soul of what made them great to begin with.) Having every character say “shit” as often as they possibly can and having shadowy bjs isn’t edgy. It’s tacky. Hopefully the change in writers will allow the shows to really push the limits. (For what it’s worth, the edgiest thing I saw them do was when Rama and her husband discussed having an open relationship… but that conversation happened so quickly and awkwardly that it defied any sort of logic or reality. The heart is in the right place, but the execution is lacking.) Log in to Reply Scout May 24, 2013 You know what? We are lucky to have these shows back at all and the bitching around here needs to come to an abrupt halt. PP isn’t a big network, like the one who dumped these shows in the first place. This is a whole new thing from top to bottom with a limited budget for both shows and they need time to work out the kinks. This also isn’t network television. This is truly a pioneering project. And despite their perceived creative shortcomings, both shows are better now than they have been in years. I gave up on ABC-AMC years ago, but I’ve seen every episode of PP-AMC and like it a lot better. So be grateful, gripers. PP doesn’t owe any of us a damned thing. Log in to Reply appleridge May 24, 2013 [quote=Scout]You know what? We are lucky to have these shows back at all and the bitching around here needs to come to an abrupt halt. PP isn’t a big network, like the one who dumped these shows in the first place. This is a whole new thing from top to bottom with a limited budget for both shows and they need time to work out the kinks. This also isn’t network television. This is truly a pioneering project. And despite their perceived creative shortcomings, both shows are better now than they have been in years. I gave up on ABC-AMC years ago, but I’ve seen every episode of PP-AMC and like it a lot better. So be grateful, gripers. PP doesn’t owe any of us a damned thing.[/quote] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ AMEN!!!!! Log in to Reply SoapSnob May 24, 2013 Appleridge, LOVE your optimism and the way you are standing up for AMC and OLTL. Scout, Yay!! Just YAY! Log in to Reply bishbay May 24, 2013 Unreal that the self-appointed censors on here are calling concerned observations “gripes” and “criticisms.” I don’t want PP to fail, but I’m not going to stop using my brain, either. Get a grip. ETA: No idea what “PP doesn’t owe us anything” even means in this context. They’re trying to make money. They need viewers. Their operation seems very troubled right now. That perception will not be helpful in keeping the viewers they have. This is a fact. Deal with it. Log in to Reply appleridge May 24, 2013 No its an assumption that these projects are in trouble. There are NO FACTS to back that up. So maybe if dont want them to fail, then support them instead of spreading rumors as facts. Log in to Reply bishbay May 24, 2013 What rumors am I spreading? A company cuts output by 33% and replaces its board in a week. Observing that these are troubling signs is not the same as spreading rumors. I don’t believe in magical thinking, appleridge. I’m not sorry about that. Log in to Reply appleridge May 24, 2013 No one knows the reason. All Im saying is that if U want these shows around then lets watch and discuss what’s on screen. Leave the bTS stuff to Agnes and PP Log in to Reply Scout May 24, 2013 [quote=bishbay]Unreal that the self-appointed censors on here are calling concerned observations “gripes” and “criticisms.”[/quote] Most of what’s being thrown out here are not concerned observations, but rather hysterical accusations. So PP is changing things to make the business model work better. Any new venture goes through changes in the beginning. Why must the sky always be falling? Log in to Reply Pocketfullofposies May 24, 2013 I thought the writers for nuAMC were doing a great job. I hope this doesn’t change anything; they have some pretty awesome storylines going on right now. In regards to OLTL, they definitely needed a change. There is nothing happening on that show; just a lot of lollygagging. I still wanna see both shows succeed so I will support them despite all of these sudden and early changes. Log in to Reply Forever21 May 24, 2013 Being supportive and grateful doesnt mean that you have to take leave your senses. You still have to exercise that brain muscle in your head. Pointing out that something isnt right behind the scenes at PP given what has happened in the last couple of weeks doesnt mean that you arent supportive, it just means you are using your common sense. Its rather stupid to lash out at anyone who thinks things arent right bts at PP. If you are confident its all good then you shouldnt get upset that others expressing some criticsm and concern about what is taking place and this whole ignore your gut feeling or any feelings you have, be happpy and shut up because they brought back the shows is sooo stupid. If you are right that everything is fine then people expressing their “negative” views wont matter because its all good right? This should be a place where we can express both points of views without anyone trying to censor others. Log in to Reply bishbay May 24, 2013 Yes, yes, appleridge, you posted on this article about behind-the-scenes yourself but since I don’t agree with your opinion about it I should just leave it to PP. You’re not even making sense at this point. And Scout, I said nothing when they fired the first OLTL co-headwriter or when they cut the episode order. Nor did I say that I think the shows will be canceled in six months or whatever at any point on this thread. I said that these are troubling signs, and I think that’s true. You and appleridge both need to keep your sides of the street clean and let people have their own opinions. This stifling of dissent that you’re attempting is toxic. Log in to Reply appleridge May 24, 2013 Susie wasnt fired, she quit. That has been documented all over the internet. Google is your friend. Use it. Log in to Reply Forever21 May 24, 2013 [quote=appleridge]No one knows the reason. All Im saying is that if U want these shows around then lets watch and discuss what’s on screen. Leave the bTS stuff to Agnes and PP[/quote] WTF This is DC where the majority of what makes headlines and take up a major part of the discussion is behind the scenes stuff. No one has to leave that discussion to Agness and PP LOL. We can discuss it here, may be you should leave the bts discussion to those who can handle it. What is this if you want the shows around shit? Discussing BTS stuff wont make the shows disappear and if you think your censoring PP discussion is the reason they will stick around then you are mistaken. Log in to Reply Scout May 24, 2013 My point is that you people bitch like you’re on the board of directors of PP, like you’re owed something by the people behind the scenes. The fact is that they’re taking a chance on a couple of canceled soap operas at a time when most TV execs have tried to kill the entire genre. AMC was godawful the last few years, an unwatchable mess. The very fact that this show was even resurrected at all and had a little new life breathed into it is nothing short of a miracle. Whether or not this succeeds, every new episode is a gift to the viewers. As far as censorship goes — if that were true, then your uninformed whiny posts would already have been deleted. You all say you have brains, then use them! Whine away, whiners! Log in to Reply days4ever May 24, 2013 david46208 I agree with your assessment of both shows. AMC is the stronger show even though OLTL has more vets on staff (they are not using them properly). AMC just needs Tad, Kendall, and Erica (with Jackson) and they will be strong with great storylines. OLTL needs an overhaul and david46208 nailed it with everything that he said. Although Dani does seem to be drinking too much in her new apartment with the boys. Why would Tea allow her to move out if she knew she had a drug problem? Why doesn’t Tea call her Daniella any longer? Log in to Reply Camp is not a sustainable model May 24, 2013 @bishbay: As someone with a degree in business and have worked in the field for over 12 years now and in middle management. I know a lot. Companies go through all sorts of changes. Yet, in this case it is called “restructuring.” And in any business “restructuring” plays a vital part of continuing to make sure the engine is running. For soaps we generally have had to deal with head writers and executive producer for years (if they were bad) before their contract ended. During this time-period show’s ratings would drop and advertisers would wince, as well as network executives. Thus, what Prospect Park is doing is not waiting for the cow to stop making milk before they make the necessary changes to maintain these series on the web for the foreseeable future. And that is not optimism. That is just looking at from a business standpoint. So they have a learning curve here. And the same learning curve was there when soaps transitioned from the radio to the TV. So the rumor of their demise has been greatly exaggerated. Just as people thought that they would never make it onto the web. But they are here. So let’s continue to critique. But critique in love. Because you want to make sure that these products remain around for years to come. And then chart the path for other soaps on-air to make the transition, possibly bring back a old favorite or two and make it possible for brand new soaps to emerge. But if you want to talk business we can talk business. Stocks, bonds, liquidity and haircuts. Just let me know! Log in to Reply bishbay May 24, 2013 Scout: Whining would be complaining that Susan Lucci isn’t on the show or complaining about how many commercials there are on Hulu. Stating that these developments are bad signs is not whining. And Scout, they’re trying to make money, not be nice people or run a charity. They paid money to license these properties and they want to make that money back, plus. This “It’s a gift!!!!!!!!!!!!” stuff is just a club you’re using to silence people with whom you don’t agree. It’s childish, frankly, and offensive. appleridge, FYI, there’s varying views on what happened with Morina. I notice that you didn’t respond to anything else I wrote–maybe I’m getting through to you? Log in to Reply bishbay May 24, 2013 david, I have a feeling that when it comes to business knowledge there’s not much you could teach me, but I won’t prove the point by listing my accomplishments or years of experience, since that smacks of insecurity. I think my tone was completely appropriate for what’s happened, from a business perspective. Log in to Reply Camp is not a sustainable model May 24, 2013 @days4ever: Hey I want these show’s to be their best and at their best. I need my dividends at the end of the quarter. Before I come in and do a hostile takeover at the shareholder’s meeting like Craig Montgomery! Log in to Reply Scout May 24, 2013 In all seriousness, bishbay, you are the one who truly needs to get a grip. Ya’ll enjoy your Memorial Day Weekend. Life’s too short. Log in to Reply soapjunkie88 May 24, 2013 Propect Park is a chocolate factory that makes wishes come true and anyone that doesn’t believe in Santa anymore should just get lost. It’s insane how people get attacked for their own or should I say different opinion about things if this is still allowed. This is a production company that wants to make money but is in way over their head. Promoting within the writing team or not it’s a change that in their eyes neeeded to be done. Why sweet-talk it? It’s a business and at the moment it doesn’t scream “a successful one”. Of course we should be happy to have these shows back, but that doesn’t let shit turn into gold on a permant basis. So, now throw stones at me… Log in to Reply Forever21 May 24, 2013 [quote=Scout]My point is that you people bitch like you’re on the board of directors of PP, like you’re owed something by the people behind the scenes. The fact is that they’re taking a chance on a couple of canceled soap operas at a time when most TV execs have tried to kill the entire genre. AMC was godawful the last few years, an unwatchable mess. The very fact that this show was even resurrected at all and had a little new life breathed into it is nothing short of a miracle. Whether or not this succeeds, every new episode is a gift to the viewers. As far as censorship goes — if that were true, then your uninformed whiny posts would already have been deleted. You all say you have brains, then use them! Whine away, whiners![/quote] I didnt see anyone act like they are owed anything. I saw people do what they have always done for years even when these shows were owned by ABC which is express their opinions about the latest soap news and then others throwing a tantrum because how dare anything other than praise be said about PP? As for your own informed post, if you were using your own brain you would realize that the reason the posts are still up is because you and Applerigde dont have the ability to delete posts of those people you deem ungrateful whiners because they dared to say something that wasnt glowing about PP. Your mode of censoring is to attack people to stop them from expressing their views or as Appleridge did tell them to leave the bts stuff to PP & Agnes (ignoring that DC is all about BTS juice and discussion). Log in to Reply Camp is not a sustainable model May 24, 2013 @bishbay: Actually no it was not. It lacked clarity and a full assessment of things with PP from a business point-of-view. So we can list accomplishments and awards all day long. But that is not going to change the faults within your assessment. That is why I countered it. And that has been the key to MY success. But more so to an understanding of the daytime model and how it works from the front end to the back-end. So if you find your assessment worthwhile defend it. You remember we business men and women are competitive. So in the words of Victor Newman: “You put your business experience next to mines and we SEE how they stack up!” Log in to Reply mfarris70 May 24, 2013 [quote=Scout]My point is that you people bitch like you’re on the board of directors of PP, like you’re owed something by the people behind the scenes.[/quote] We are owed something by them– the quality shows they promised that got many of us to subscribe to Hulu Plus or buy episodes on iTunes. The idea that they’re not the same as a network doesn’t wash because they’ve been promoting themselves for two years as the future of televised entertainment. They haven’t yet lived up to their boasting. Log in to Reply mfarris70 May 24, 2013 [quote=soapjunkie88]…but that doesn’t let shit turn into gold on a permant basis.[/quote] Now that’s a good use of a curse word that could be used on AMC or OLTL! ; ) Log in to Reply dattilofan1 May 25, 2013 I for one am glad for the new head writers. This version of both soaps is new to everyone and until it’s perfect then there are going to changes and should be changes until they get it right. OLTL has been a little slow but it may be finding it’s footing. Having Victor leave so very soon was a bad move. It’s just left thing up in the air way too soon. Hopefully the new HW will resolve this issue and get things rolling along. What ever happens I’ll support them because I love these shows. Log in to Reply nysam May 25, 2013 So after a month on the air and the shows being cut in half and now promoting 2 writers (at least for AMC who helped kill the show when it was on ABC) is a way to improve them? Not going to happen. I’m sticking by what I said a couple weeks ago. Come August or before, the plug will be pulled entirely. PP didn’t take the time to hire the right teams to launch these shows. If you stick with the same people from the industry who helped tank them in the first place things aren’t going to get better. Log in to Reply guilty pleasure May 25, 2013 @david46208: I remember back on the second online episode of OLTL that Cutter Wentworth asked his associate at the club Dean Trayger if he gave Dani any drugs, and a couple of episodes later, Dean enlisted a dirty cop from the Llanview Police Department named Bruce Hunter to provide more security at the club as a bouncer so no one will get in trouble, and Cutter told Dean he didn’t want to know any of the details. I think Dani must’ve gotten the drugs from the club, and that Cutter is running a drug trafficking ring in the club with Dean and Bruce! I think they need to have Bo investigate what’s happening at the club, and why Cutter is running a drug ring there! Log in to Reply Camp is not a sustainable model May 25, 2013 @guilty pleasure & everyone: Yes they should investigate it. It would make real sense. They could also tie it into when Bo found the Oxycontin on Matthew in the first episode. If we pull the families in further than we can have Nora and Bo trying to keep Matthew away from “Hurricane Dani” as she continues to spiral out of control and Tea trying desperately to save her daughter, while coming to understand the neglect she has heaped upon her since her baby died. Imagine Tea and Nora going at it. Or Bo and Tea with Bo referring to Dani as a tramp! Then, as Dani continues to fall Matthew reconnects with Density as she and Jeffrey are just starting to heat up. Thus, having Destiny torn between her hot ‘n’ cold baby’s daddy and the responsible man who has been like a father to Drew. Thus, after Matthew saves a drugged up Dani from almost getting raped and later pays off the drug dealer she owes money to, he is through with her. And as Dani feels alienated and alone, she decides to take her life. Dani writes nasty letters to everyone she feels has wronged or turned their backs on her. Then gets high one last time, takes off in her car and pledges over the side of the highway into a pond. Dani’s life is saved. Yet when she comes to she learns that Tea has motioned the court for power-of-attorney over her as she has declared Dani mentally incompetent of taking care of her own life. While all this is going on Bo and the Llanview Narcotics Department plan a raid on The Shelter when they discover that someone on the inside is part of a drug ring that supplies drugs to club goers after a random clubber dies of a drug overdose. The raid leads them to finding large amounts of drugs hidden in the club. Blair and Cutter are arrested and receives federal racketeering and drug charges. The Shelter is shutdown. Jeffrey gets a bright idea to investigate and cover the case for The Banner’s online website with the hopes he may figure out the truth to set Blair and Cutter free. Meanwhile, the bad press from The Banner on Blair’s arrests helps to deepen the feud between Dorian and Vicki. As Dorian believes Vicki is loving every minute of her family’s tragedy. Thus, due to the fact that Vicki refused to be bribed or threatened into not reporting on Blair’s tragedies. Dorian becomes determined to take Vicki off her high horse when things settle down. Vicki is conflicted about The Banner reporting on Blair’s downfall, but Clint reminds her that she has a staff and paper to save in a digital age. Plus, the online version of The Banner has been receiving record hits and newsstand sales are up. And that is what I have so far as further ideas for OLTL. I got a lot more I can write. But I’ll stop there. Log in to Reply marknsprmo May 25, 2013 I do believe that new writers are probably called for, however I don’t think these are new writers. It sounds like they are just being bumped up from the rank and file. The problem I see is not anything other than we are now in a model of a 2 day a week half hour shows. It is something that has not been on tv since the 60s as far as I know (Peyton Place). I think the pacing of the shows will definitely need to be rethought. A strong focus on one or two stories and quicker cuts in the scenes. I also think we need to get to the point and get on with it. We can’t just drag out a story for months on end. I agree mostly with David46208 about the current assessment of both shows. AMC is certainly stronger in the story dept. They didn’t build their show around actors that weren’t staying. One thing I most certainly am missing on both shows is entertainment. Except for a couple of nearly nude boys a couple of times, I have not been entertained very much. I would like zippier dialog. Make every talk like Vickers and Dorian (not in the literal sense). People need to be more clever. And I don’t need Bo and Nora to be more “in” or cool. What I need is smarter dialog, not hipster characters. What’s wrong with being a cop and a lawyer? Those are interesting jobs and have wide spread possibilities (maybe there really are no drugs in Llanview like Blair believes. And of course no one ever gets beat up robbed or murdered either. I noticed that in Pine Valley, if one hits someone at a coffee shop, one can get suspended at school. God knows what would happen if he sassed his grandma in church. Expulsion?) Log in to Reply rapido May 25, 2013 Some fans seem desperate to prove the reboots are the greatest thing since sliced bread. I am not watching as I do not think the shows will last. All signals point to,poor viewership online. Now the cheerleaders will say differently. First they cut episodes in half and scrap filming until August. Now new writers. Again this says to me not enough watching and they are in full scale panic. The concept to produce original drama for online is very flawed when the show is a formerly cancelled soap. Log in to Reply Llanview76 May 25, 2013 I’m just impressed that many people – voicing good, bad or indifferent about this venture know so much of what happens behind the scenes. Do any of us who post on this board work at Prospect Park, or any of the L.A. based soaps? I get it, common sense, but it’s really just common theory going off of Jamey’s article and two statements released: one by the production company the other by Agnes Nixon…who, I’m sure is trying to calm our nerves outhere in audienceland with her statement – rare that she ever made these before but as pointed out this is the net, not net-work.. I’m just going to watch the programs for what they are: 30 minutes of escape from a world that is plagued with…too much information, anyways it seems. Log in to Reply guilty pleasure May 25, 2013 @david46208: If Cutter knew about the drugs being sold in the club since he asked Dean about them, and he owes shady people like Jamie Frankko money, then Cutter is really guilty since he’s involved in the drug ring, and only Blair is the innocent one since she doesn’t know anything about the drugs being sold in the club! Log in to Reply liason4real May 25, 2013 I am glad PP is listening to the fan feedback. ABCD ignored their soap opera fans for over a decade. Log in to Reply Scout May 25, 2013 Unfortunately, most so-called fans don’t know their asses from a large hole in the ground but still seemingly know it all. You know who you are. Log in to Reply bishbay May 25, 2013 Still telling people to shut up and clap louder, Scout? Among other things, that attitude doesn’t suggest you have confidence in your own position. Log in to Reply dsmwmn May 25, 2013 This is a really good move on PP part. With the switch to the 2 episodes a week the pacing and story telling needs to be adjusted and this is a good way to do it. OLTL really needs better writing regardless. PP ridiculous lawsuit (which was basically a big insult to Ron) seems even crazier considering the crap stories we have been given. I hop these changes will equal good things for the shows. Log in to Reply marknsprmo May 25, 2013 Hey all this fighting is getting really entertaining. It reminds me of Point Counter Point on Saturday Night Live. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SbsLILVM7-4 It is actually better than the shows that are being fought over. Log in to Reply Scout May 25, 2013 [quote=bishbay]Still telling people to shut up and clap louder, Scout? Among other things, that attitude doesn’t suggest you have confidence in your own position.[/quote] I’m doing no such thing. Just as you have a right to your opinion, I am entitled (a word you seemingly love to apply to yourself as much as possible) to reject your ignorance and hysteria. The fact that you respond to this post personally when your name isn’t even mentioned says it all about the confidence of your own position. Here’s the thing: AMC wasn’t worth saving in the first place. In its final years, before it was mercifully put out of its misery, it was manhandled and creatively cornholed by some of the biggest hacks in the industry, a charge gleefully led by Brian Frons. But no matter the reasons, viewers tuned out in droves — rightfully so. PP dropped the ball out of the gate, but the unions didn’t help matters. This venture was so new, no one seemingly knew how to proceed with negotiations and, as is often the case with unions, things bogged down in an unmanageable mess. (SEE: Hostess Bakeries Inc.) So PP finally gets this project reasonably on track and proceeds to bring AMC back from the dead; well, not having Lucci and MEK makes it a risky proposition from the get-go, but PP went ahead with it anyway. Has PP-AMC been perfect every single minute of its run? No. But it’s back. Even with two episodes a week, it is more than we had even two months ago. And, really, I gave up on ABC-AMC years ago. The Ryan-&-Greenlee Show just wasn’t doing it for me. And it’s not just them — there was plenty in every storyline to hate: from Erica’s aborted abortion to Tad Martin committing what was tantamount to murder to the network’s wheezy backhanded attitude toward homosexuals. What I see in PP-AMC, even without SL and MEK, is more of a return to form — potboiler mysteries, fantastical romance and a bit of camp, all without the gross factor and the cavalier attitude toward its dwindling fanbase. Things at PP may get better or they may get worse. Either way, they have spent a lot of time and money on this venture and it might just be a good idea to support it rather than tear it down — especially when no one really truly knows what goes on behind the scenes at the very moment, now do we? And, bishbay, since you seem to take all this personally, let me address you in such matter: yes, every new episode of AMC is a gift to its fans. After all the damage that was done to this show for at least a decade by ABC, AMC didn’t really even really deserve a second life. Breathe easy… Log in to Reply bishbay May 25, 2013 Hon, edit. I’m not reading five paragraphs of boosterism. Keep it to two. Log in to Reply stoney07 May 25, 2013 I don’t get why people expect soaps to be perfect these days. It’s like we reflect back on the past, and we forget the “boring” episodes, or the bad, outrageous, over the top stories that made absolutely NO sense at the time. Agnes Nixon had her share, Bill Bell had his share, Irna Phillips had her share, etc… But what they Didn’t have was these boards filled with some grouchy, overly critical, illogical people who watch mainly to find things to bitch about. It’s easy to say “I would do THIS and THAT” when you’re not the one writing. But we have to face the facts that we all like different things. Some like slow paced character driven, some like fast paced plot driven. Some like drama, some like camp. Some like action, etc… My thing is, let’s calm down a little and give these changes a chance. Whether PP is desperate or not, it doesn’t really matter. The decision has been made. Log in to Reply bishbay May 25, 2013 Stoney, if it doesn’t really matter if PP is desperate it shouldn’t matter that people say it. I like your comments in general, but you seem to be spending a lot of time complaining about how people are complaining recently. I hope you’re not trying to tell people what they should and shouldn’t write in their comments. Log in to Reply stoney07 May 25, 2013 I’ve said it a million times before…I don’t care what people say in their comments. But when I’m annoyed, I speak on it, the same way people speak on when their annoyed with the show. I’m respectful to everyone. I just feel as if the behind the scenes stuff will NEVER fully be told. None of us really knows what’s going on, we’re just commenting on what is told to us. So the arguments over whether or not PP is desperate, etc..is kind of crazy to me. Log in to Reply Scout May 25, 2013 [quote=bishbay]Hon, edit. I’m not reading five paragraphs of boosterism. Keep it to two.[/quote] ‘Cause you just can’t handle being schooled. And it would be inappropriate and just plain wrong of me to tell you to shut the fuck up. So I won’t. Log in to Reply bishbay May 25, 2013 Scout, thank you for keeping it short and to the point like I asked. Glad that you know how to listen. Have a great holiday and I hope your wittle feewings get better. Tantrums aren’t cute in five-year-olds, let alone in women. Log in to Reply Camp is not a sustainable model May 26, 2013 @bishbay: Says the person who told me they were far more accomplished business wise than I was. Yet didn’t want to boast. Um hum… You know those of us with critiques are critiquing to improves these series. Jamey, Luke, Jillian etc… And this is across the daytime landscape. You (like a few others) just want to say “nothing is gonna work!” And the point is you have not put forth a competent argument. So I am still waiting for that business sense to kick-in. You let me know when you get it together. Because you don’t want to tangle with me. Because I will give you an intellectual smack-down. And that’s fact. And as always: “You put MY business skills next to yours and WE see how they stack up!” Log in to Reply bishbay May 26, 2013 David, I’ve never knce said or implied that nothing sill work. You’re inventing. As an aside, I’ll repeat to you what I said to Scout: Hon, edit. I don’t read the fan fiction posts you sprinkle liberally throughout the site, either. Ain’t got time for it. Log in to Reply Camp is not a sustainable model May 26, 2013 Double Post. Log in to Reply Camp is not a sustainable model May 26, 2013 @bishbay: You just can’t even enter into the discussion about the economics of daytime and the production of a serial. Nor can you talk story. So you’ve proven my point. You don’t have what it takes. So thanks for letting me know. I’ll pat myself on the back as you snivel away. Your lack of competence is noteworthy. Log in to Reply bishbay May 26, 2013 Oh, David. Good luck with everything. You seem like you have something to prove. Log in to Reply Camp is not a sustainable model May 26, 2013 @bishbay: Well I knew someone had to “get you together.” You are just as I expected on this. Log in to Reply gato1 May 26, 2013 THE SHADE OF IT ALL!!!!!!!! Log in to Reply guilty pleasure May 26, 2013 @david46208: Why would you think Cutter is innocent along with Blair (who is really the only one who isn’t aware of the drugs in her new club) in the drug trafficking ring at Shelter? It was obvious he knew about the drugs in the club when he asked his associate Dean if he sold any drugs to Dani after she overdosed on OxyContin pills on the opening night of the club! Log in to Reply Camp is not a sustainable model May 26, 2013 @guilty pleasure: Oh he could be guilty too. Had to pay off an old debt. We can work with that. Thanks for the important the to remember. Log in to Reply guilty pleasure May 26, 2013 You’re welcome, david46208! Log in to Reply Ryan-Scott May 29, 2013 For people who think PP still has those in charge of story direction who drove AMC into the ground its last several years I don’t see their names when I watch new episodes…Julie H-C, Charles P., Donna S., David K., Megan M….all thankfully not seen… :beer: Log in to Reply Leave a Reply Cancel Reply You must be logged in to post a comment.