Ratings, Rants and Raves: New Women 18-49 Low For General Hospital






General Hospital's post-50th anniversary ratings slump continued the week of July 1-5 (Source: Soap Opera Network). The ABC Daytime drama dropped 121,000 total viewers over the previous week. However, GH was still up 90,000 over this time last year. The sudser was in last place in households, women viewers aged 18-49 and all key demos (tying Days of Our Lives among W18-34).

In story, Carly (Laura Wright) tried to force Morgan (Bryan Craig) to move out of the house of horrors that has become the Quartermaine mansion. Kiki (Kristen Alderson) lusted after Cousin Michael (Chad Duell), while getting busy with his brother. Alexis (Nancy Lee Grahn) and Shawn (Sean Butler) argued about their chemistry-devoid relationship. Okay, they really argued about his work for Sonny (Maurice Benard), but they should have been dealing with the aforementioned much larger issue!

Luke (Anthony Geary) left town to find a cure. Laura (Genie Francis) and Lulu (Emme Rylan) got all up in Tracy's (Jane Elliot) grill. Olivia (Lisa LoCicero) moved into the Corinthos compound. Nikolas (Tyler Christopher) agreed to bankroll Deception 2.0 and Britt (Kelly Thiebaud) barbecued Emma's (Brooklyn Rae Silzer) pissy baby doll.

Still way too much Francophrenia (Roger Howarth) on GH these days. I'd bet money if this character was backburnered and retooled, while moving the AJ (Sean Kanan)/Liz (Rebecca Herbst)/Nikolas triangle to the front burner, the ratings would stabilize.

Thank the Soap Gods, Alexis and Shawn are dunzo. Bring back Rick Hearst, STAT!  Imagine Molly (Haley Pullos) learning the reason she had to grow up without a father, was because her big sister Sam (Kelly Monaco) mopped Alexis' floor with her bottom, while Rick served as her human Swiffer Wet Jet.

Speaking of Sam, she's much too sexy to be toting around a sick, ole' baby all summer. Let's hurry a miracle cure for Danny and get her back in ride-or-die mode. 

Sam is an action/adventure character. Her fan base fell in love with her against-all-odds escapades with Jason (Steve Burton). A domesticated Sam is an uninteresting Sam. She should be the one investigating Ava (Maura West), not silly Spinelli (Bradford Anderson) —especially if both women are to be romantic options for Dr. Silas Clay (Michael Easton).

I'm enjoying Kiki and the Brothers Corinthos, though I think the storyline needs another female to flesh it out a bit. Paging Serena Baldwin! Scotty (Kin Shriner) would be livid at the thought of one or more of Sonny's sons canoodling with his heiress daughter.

The teen story with Molly and Co. is nice enough, except they all look like babies. There isn't the same lust factor as when Jagger (Antonio Sabato, Jr.) was torn between Brenda (Vanessa Marcil) and Karen (Cari Shayne). Since we're on the subject of Jagger (Seriously, when are we not?), picture his taut, massive, veiny body grinding betwixt Sam's legs—her hooker boots high in the air—then they go off to take down Ava's art theft ring! 
 


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When I saw Lucas and Adrienne together the other day, I thought.... What if, when Justin and Adrienne split and Justin becomes the new Bo (if the writers ever care enough to give Hope a relationship and a story) Adrienne and Lucas hit the sheets. Bring it on.

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When will TPTB at GH learn to put moer focus on the vets. You can't tell me that Howarth and Easton come cheaper than Herbst, Hughes, Buchanan, Kanan.

They also need to trim the cast. There are too many characters on the canvas.

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I utterly agree with the misuse of Abby! It matters not one iota who is playing the part - Abby has not had a front-burner storyline since she mowed down Tucker and Ashley took the blame. Abby is currently a D-list character at best. And this is a child of Victor Newman and Ashley Abbott, for Goodness sakes! How is this possible?

Since the current Vicki Newman doesn't seem to want to/ be able to step up to the plate, why not make Abby the new female power player of the Newman family? (This has been my wishful storytelling for two years now.) Have HER take pages out of dear old dad's book and really go against Adam. Don't have her become CEO in two days like Sharon did, but have her gradually work her way to heading up her own department - á la Victoria with Brash 'n' Sassy.

And for Goodness sakes, get her some LEADING men! Not these throwaway newbies who should just sit there and look pretty and who the audience has no investment in.

The idea of Lucas & Adrienne is excellent.

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GH needs and should fire the actors who play Franco, Spinelli, KiKi, Morgan, Dante, Olivia, Sabrina, Silas, Shawn, Felix, TJ, Taylor, and Epiphany.

and focus on and write stories for the characters Monica, Lesley, Mac, Robert, Felicia, Lucy, Kevin.

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I wish they would go in a totally different direction with franco. the tumor story is a huge mistake (if thats where they are going). I keep hoping we are going to find out that he is jimmy lee holts son alan holt who had surgery to look like franco in order to get what he sees as his rightful share of ELQ. The only way to address the videos is that maybe the entire plan was cooked up by heather and knowing that she had francos videos (and making her his mom at this time) she offered them for a piece of the proverbial pie.

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NYSam I think kanan is on quite a bit and now that he and carly on teaming up to get the goods on ava i expect them to go front burner. it wont surprise me when they hit the sheets again Wink

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It's funny how RC no longer tweets about the ratings, and how the actors/actresses are no longer tweeting and telling us to "watch GH". GH lost all momentum it had during the Nurse's Ball, watching has become a chore.

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ABC or someone over there got a hold of CarTini and told them to stop getting into fights on twitter/Facebook with the viewers and to stop getting accounts shut down because they don't like the opinions.

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It's been years since I've enjoyed B&B this much, but every day for the past couple of weeks I've actually been wishing that each episode lasted longer. It's THAT GOOD.

Days is almost as good as B&B, but it feels as though movement in the stories has slowed down quite a bit in the last couple of weeks.

Y&R's strong point right now is the acting by most of the major players. I just wish those major players did not include Steve Burton. It's frustrating because shows need characters like Dylan, but we don't need him featured as fast and as much as he has been.

I'm optimistic that GH is going to get better soon. Ron C. has demonstrated in the past that he knows how to make course corrections.

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RC needs to be controled by someone. There is too much crazy stuff going on at once. And while the 80s and their campy style worked well back then, we have 2013 now. Soaps needs more relatable storylines.

No one would even consider having Emily Thorne kidnapped by aliens or ask Jane Elliot to act like Joan Collins.
A little reference to the past is nice but GH is overdoing it with almost cartoonish storytelling.

No wonder the women are turning off their television or decide to watch something else.

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@Everyone: Like I said Ron needs a co-head writer to reel him in. He figured out he needed one at OLTL and needs to get one now. A veteran writer, who can balance him out. When JER was at GL he had other co-head writers there to keep him from turning the show into the Passions prequel. I'm just saying a co-Head Writer would work. That is my positive interjection into the Cartini fiasco!

They better take my advice. Ron Carlivati is not a stand alone writer. I don't know who yet, can come help him but he needs somebody.

The Franken-Todd is just a symptom of the problem.

Heck, even the Lord; is watching other things at the moment. He wants to see whose sinning on Days not the sin called General Hospital.

Ron needs a come-to-Jesus moment and fast!

He needs to be visited by 3 ghosts.

The ghost of hacks past.
The ghost of hacks present.
And the ghost of cancellation future.

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I never bought Sam as a mother in the first place, since the character is suppose to be into action/adventure/PI stuff. It's not necessary for every woman or man on a soap opera to have a kid. Speaking of children.

Am I the only person annoyed that Ellie is now wanting to have a baby? Jeez. Why can't a woman or man decide that they don't want children instead of changing their minds three weeks later just to keep their current bed buddy?

My main issue with Liz/AJ/Nik is the rewriting of what really happened with Niz in early 2010. Nik moved on with Brooklyn. Liz was pregnant and alone. Lucky moved on with Siobhan. Liz was not pining for Nik from 2010 until he showed up in 2013 and had already moved on with Ewen and Jason.

The writing for Liz/AJ started off great and then went south after the nurses ball. The couple has had two dates since February!

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Amen 100% with my girl Yoryla! Y&R is sinking.

The throwaway newbies are a disgrace, starting with dead on arrival Dylan, Shaggy-lookalike Kyle and that boring pseudo-lawyer Melanie.

The new Abby is kinda growing on me. You can tell she's got some fire in her but the writing is atrocious. Others like Fen and Noah, plenty good looking and talented, are wasted sitting on the sidelines while the likes of zzzzAvery and zzzzChelsea suck the life out of the show.

If not for Cray Cray Queen Sharon this show would be unwatchable! The storyline is shit but La Case is ***EVERYTHING*** right now.

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@everyone: Now let me get on Y&R for the moment, because they need some help too.

Since she is free and available and has a history with the show, call up Sally Sussman Morina and have her join as a co-head writer or a story consultant again.

Her crowning glory at Y&R was that she proposed the Phick affair. And given how she knows how to come in and write a show and understand its history and write to that history while being contemporary I'd say she could do for Y&R what Lorraine Brodrick has done for Days.

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Y&R has the same problems that GH has.

too many newbies & recasts that have become front & center on both shows at warp speed!!!!

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Y&R's biggest problem is Dylan McAvoy.

If not for his story with Chelsea, and his all around boring aura...I wouldn't find ANY of this show to be boring.

Even the wasted Tyler, Abby, Noah...I find them interesting when SHOWN. I find the Tyler/Abby pairing to be fairly interesting with lots of potential.

If we could just get rid of Dylan...and refocus that hole that would be, but SHOULDN'T be, left by him with Nikki or Jill. Then I'd say the show would be hitting pretty well.

B&B is on fire.
GH is horrible to me.
DAYS I still don't watch yet but I'mma try to get to it in my extra time.

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@stoney07: Dylan and the Rest of Us. I hear you on that one! They should cut their losses with Steve Burton at the end of his 26 weeks. Just cut it!

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The blame for the decline in viewers can be named: SONNY & Mob Violence. The mob beat down of Franco, even though I hate Franco, was not needed or wanted. I do believe it goes further than just that and can also be chalked up to the fact no matter how much we love RH, we can't like Franco.

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Dylan is not working on YR at all. The writers are shoving him down our throats. Chelsea I feel is being destroyed to prop his boring ass. MCE is way to talented to prop a bland actor like SBU. Plus MCE is isoloated in that dump with him which sucks. Why are they not focousing on Chelsea' fashion line? That would have been a much better story

I also feel that writers forgot that Adam is the father of Chelsea's baby? So why is Adam missing from this sl? That makes no sense. If Griffith wants this to be a triangle at least I think that is what he is writing then Chelsea needs to share equal screentime with Adam and Dylan not just holding Dylan hand in that ghetto ass sofa bed

Also it is OOC for Adam bed any pussy in that comes his way

GH is horrid for me right now

Days and BB are fire

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Dylan and Chelsea are both ain't working on Y&R. And both are shut down our throats again and again.

Chelsea and her third pregnancy after being two years on the show tells as much as Dylan played like he's been there for a decade.

Not even to mention Steve Burton's lack of acting abilities. But the man has a fan base and so has Melissa Claire Egan. So I guess Y&R viewers have to sit through this while the characters they really care about either are a shadow of their former self or are off-screen and if on-screen just supporting some stupid storyline.

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@soapjunkie88: That fan base sure is not coming out in full force. I believe the Steve Burton fan base is just as big as the Lame fan base. Just a small number of rabid fans who spam the web and that damn soap opera digest poll they think makes CK and DG popular.

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People are being too harsh on GH, it's had a tricky few weeks but has been the best soap for over a year now.

As for B&B, I've spent the last 2 years wondering why I still watch; right now I'm 50/50, love the Batie story, but want to throw something at my TV every time I see Hope, nothing would make me happier than for her to be killed off.

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The_Moustache wrote:
GH needs and should fire the actors who play Franco, Spinelli, KiKi, Morgan, Dante, Olivia, Sabrina, Silas, Shawn, Felix, TJ, Taylor, and Epiphany.

and focus on and write stories for the characters Monica, Lesley, Mac, Robert, Felicia, Lucy, Kevin.

Well I thought they already got rid of Epiphany!? Hell...I ain't seen her since Jesus was a baby Lol!!!

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It's been close to a month since I turned off GH on my DVD settings and I can say the urge to watch it has waned dramatically! And from this rants n raves I can see I haven't missed much. And once someone lets me know abt someone back burnered and better story written than I will be back.

Y&R is great and then the next scene is Dylan. I'm not sure if the same writers are writing Chelsea's story and summers story but one would think Jill would have said "wait wait TWO STORIES ABT PATERNITY can't be told at once!!!" Honestly, today's episode was all abt summer and people finding out nicks secret and then Chelsea lying through her teeth about the true paternity of her seedling! It's makes no sense. Plus I no longer am rooting for Chelsea and actually can't wait for Dylan to leave town and Chelsea to go with him.

Plus, for a macho ex military guy he is awfully gossipy. Seriously Avery why are you hinting abt nicks secret to Dylan and not just saying "listen dylan this is none of your business. Please don't ask again."

I'm on the fence abt Sharon and think that her destruction has something to do with the ratings decline as well.

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See you should write for this show your ideas are fantastic. I think the shows characters need to be balanced and there is to much of franco at the expense of vets. I LOVE GH but I miss Duke Anna Robert and my other GH favourites. Sorry but Franco is not needed on all the time. He was meant to be a villian not a screen hog who is on almost all the time. They also need to defintely retool the character. THe character is a walking mess all over the place. I passed through a couple of hospital waiting rooms the other day people seen that franco turn it off and started laughing about who in the world writes this junk. They were laughing with the writer but at him and they don't see it. People constantly tell them because they don't want their show to die. They have no hidden agenda. They just want the show to get better, but no one listens. I am starting to warm up to Silas but he is not on as much. You have to give viewers a chance for new characters not shove them down the viewers throats. Also agree firery sam needs to come back spinlii can side kick but let sam head off the investigations and jagger and sam would be hot
thanks for your input -- wish they listen to you or anybody for that matter

If it is broke fix it. GH is broke and someone should definely fix it. ASAP

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See you should write for this show your ideas are fantastic. I think the shows characters need to be balanced and there is to much of franco at the expense of vets. I LOVE GH but I miss Duke Anna Robert and my other GH favourites. Sorry but Franco is not needed on all the time. He was meant to be a villian not a screen hog who is on almost all the time. They also need to defintely retool the character. THe character is a walking mess all over the place. I passed through a couple of hospital waiting rooms the other day people seen that franco turn it off and started laughing about who in the world writes this junk. They were laughing with the writer but at him and they don't see it. People constantly tell them because they don't want their show to die. They have no hidden agenda. They just want the show to get better, but no one listens. I am starting to warm up to Silas but he is not on as much. You have to give viewers a chance for new characters not shove them down the viewers throats. Also agree firery sam needs to come back spinlii can side kick but let sam head off the investigations and jagger and sam would be hot
thanks for your input -- wish they listen to you or anybody for that matter

If it is broke fix it. GH is broke and someone should definely fix it. ASAP

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Hi pjc722!!!! nice to see your disgruntled eyes Smile

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Thanks SAM! Just had a lot to say and not a lot of time to say it.

And it's tiring being disgruntled!

Hope everyone is having a great summer!!!

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@everyone: I have been looking around the web to see the response to GH's overall ratings decline. From the looks of things 90% of the fans online want to tar and feather Ron and Frank in the town square.

There is also rumblings that the press is catering to Ron and Frank like they appeared to cater to Maria Bell at a time.

That has given me a bright idea. A bright idea. But then I digress...

This is one case though where the overall ratings are matching the online outrage.

It's like for every one person who says, "I like it" it is about 20 saying hell to the naw!

Now I know we don't use the online retortic as a basis for the success or failure of a show. Yet, the two are melding together. Just take a look:

GH 2013 monthly averages:

Jan 2013 2,834,200
Feb 2013 2,777,500
Mar 2013 2,612,750
Apr 2013 2,668,200 <– 50th anniv/Nurses Ball
May 2013 2,550,750
Jun 2013 2,500,000

So it ain't just Franken-Todd.

Here is my honest assessment.

Frank and Ron brought back all these vets to rope fans in. It was not just for the 50th anniversary. They figured if we bring back the people fans know and love they'll tune in. And once we got them they will be drawn to the other stories we have going on and many will remain. They figured they could build off of that.

And yet the ratings were declining before the 50th anniverary special. And saw a slight bump in the ratings during the month in which it aired.

Notice in Janauary they averaged close to 3 millions viewers and from there it was down hill.

Here is the loss and gain by month since January:

February = -56,000
March = -164,750
April = +55,540
May = -117,450
June = -50,750

Now those are the numbers in total viewers. We can say that the ratings decline has to do with more than just Franken-Todd. So we can stop pushing that as the excuse now. Glasses

Anyways, they teased the fans with these characters and then put them in closet hoping they would adapt to these new characters and stories they are trying to pass off as stellar creativity.

Thus from the looks of things it ain't worked. I'm just saying the numbers don't lie.

You can also see the number of new characters added since May.

Kristen Alderson as Kiki - May 2013
Michael Easton as Silas - May 2013
Roger Howarth as Franco - May 2013
Maura West as Ava - May 2013
Bryan Craig as Adult Morgan - May 2013
Nicolas Bechtel as Spencer - May 2013
Samantha Logan as Taylor - June 2013
William deVry as Derek - July 2013

Anyone notice a pattern here? That is a total of 8 characters. 6 within the same month.

So I don't expect a cookie because i'm taking the jar! Steve

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It seems to me that the writers went on autopilot after the nurse's ball. They started what seemed to me like good stories, and either stalled them or ignored them altogether. Unlike those primetime shows that are mediocre at best, at least we know that they are temporary.

With GH I just feel we are in a holding pattern. We still don't know why they dropped Lulus' kidnapping, or why it was so important for Britt to snag Patrick. What is the reason for the Disney Princess aka Sabrina to be instantly in love with the adorable but increasingly bratty Emma, and equally smitten with Prince Charming aka Patrick.

Please do not get me started with the OLTL trio. Todd is still Todd just a new name, there is still the same father/daughter dynamic between he and Starr/Kiki. Silas is still John McBain with a stethoscope instead of a badge. I really want to like the character, because I loved McBam, but frankly I am bored. I would like to see Michael Easton would bring some of Caleb Morleys swagger to Silas game.